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Speaker 1: is here. Good morning, THEO. How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 1: Zeo problem?

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Speaker 2: Theo's got himself in a bit of a pickle. So

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Speaker 2: your life for you and can call eight five, five,

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Speaker 2: So you and your wife are high school sweethearts, right,

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Speaker 2: been together for a very long time, is that correct?

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Speaker 2: That's that's right, And you're trying to keep things interesting

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Speaker 2: in the in the intimacy department, right, So I'm using

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Speaker 2: sort of code words, And so you had the brilliant idea,

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Speaker 2: THEO to do what.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, like you said, we've been together so

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Speaker 3: long and they you know, high school sweethearts, and we

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Speaker 3: I love her so much and we always prioritize physical

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Speaker 3: intimacy and keeping thinks new and exciting because we've known

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Speaker 3: each other so long. And so a few months back

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Speaker 3: I suggested maybe adding another person into into the mix,

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Speaker 3: bringing in a third uh yeah, something that that I

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Speaker 3: never thought my wife would actually go for, and just

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Speaker 3: assume the conversation alone would spice things up.

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Speaker 2: Now, like like this TLC show, add a third person, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, consistently, or just add someone for a little

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Speaker 2: fun time, just you know, like a one time, one

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Speaker 2: off deal.

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Speaker 3: I think ideally it would be someone who would be

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Speaker 3: consistent with, but you know, if it was even once,

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Speaker 3: it would spice things up again. I didn't even think

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Speaker 3: she was going to go for.

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Speaker 2: This, okay, all right, but she did. But spoiler alert,

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Speaker 2: she did.

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Speaker 1: She went for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like she. We laid down some ground rules,

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Speaker 3: you know, like no no conversation outside of the three

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Speaker 3: the other one doesn't know about, and selected you know,

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Speaker 3: this woman who lived out of town, so that we

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Speaker 3: didn't have to it didn't ever become it would never

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Speaker 3: become an issue in our relationship before we run it

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Speaker 3: ran into them and so we went through it and

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Speaker 3: had a great time.

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Speaker 1: Better than expected.

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Speaker 3: My wife was more than that was something that'll be

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Speaker 3: in my memory forever. And I thought everything was good

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Speaker 3: and that chapter was closed. But last week I saw

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Speaker 3: flirty messages between my wife and this woman, and that

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Speaker 3: was very much against the agreement.

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Speaker 2: Tales oldest time, tales, so old at time. So wow, well,

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Speaker 2: now I mean fairness. You know, people do this all

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Speaker 2: the time, and they set ground rules and they follow them,

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Speaker 2: and it works for certain people.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't work for me. I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I could do it.

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Speaker 2: But but you guys were on the same page and

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Speaker 2: you thought this was open shot whatever. But now you're

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Speaker 2: finding that there's sort of a side dialogue here, and

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Speaker 2: it's flirty. It's not like they're just you know, interacting,

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Speaker 2: like sharing you know, recipes or something. I mean, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about like they're over here flirt with each other

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yeah, yeah, I you know, I wish they

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Speaker 4: When when I when I spoke to my wife about it.

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Speaker 3: She said they were just you know, just talking because

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Speaker 3: they would never she said, they would never do anything

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Speaker 2: But they okay, nothing physical, but they're they're having this

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Speaker 2: this communicative relationship, which I don't know what you saw

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Speaker 2: is one thing. I mean, there could be more. I guess,

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Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, this is not within the

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Speaker 2: confines of what you would agreed to. You would agree

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Speaker 2: that anything that you did with this other person was

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Speaker 2: the two of you together right to prevent this from happening.

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Speaker 1: And she didn't follow the rules.

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Speaker 3: I did not expect this to happen. I thought, if anything,

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Speaker 3: I would be more more into the woman we brought it,

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Speaker 3: not my wife, and you know, and and so the

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Speaker 3: woman and the messages were flirty. The messages were you

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Speaker 3: know you don't do like a heart emoji and the

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Speaker 3: kiss emoji with the side hard.

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Speaker 1: No, not to harden the kiss emoji. Here we go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they put you.

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Speaker 2: In a group chain. Yeah what about the water emoji?

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, before long the water emoji? Maybe the egg

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Speaker 2: plant emoji? Before long, it's over. Whole thing's over, hardeys

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Speaker 2: and then finished. Okay, so you but you feel betrayed

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Speaker 2: because this is what you guys agreed upon. You both

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Speaker 2: agreed upon it, and now you feel like there's something

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Speaker 2: and that's not in your self conscious about it.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's understandable.

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Speaker 2: Hmm exactly. I want to know what people think about

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Speaker 2: this eight five five five three five. I think there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of different viewpoints. You could say that this, hey,

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Speaker 2: this is the risk that you take when you introduce

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Speaker 2: someone from the outside. There's a risk that you know,

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Speaker 2: this whole exposure might might unearth something in one or

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Speaker 2: the other. Uh, they could be unhealthy or dangerous to

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Speaker 2: the relationship. You could say, hey, you guys agree that

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Speaker 2: there are rules here, and then the rules aren't being followed,

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Speaker 2: and either follow the rules are or or you're basically

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Speaker 2: you're cheating. I mean, I think it would be fair

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Speaker 2: to say, because again, what you've agreed to together and what

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this is worth like blowing up

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Speaker 2: your whole relationship for it, But I suppose it is.

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Speaker 2: If if she's now really super interested in this other person,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's an extra marital relationship at this point.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it threatens your threatens the relationship, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Does would you be okay with her having a girlfriend

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, definitely not, definitely not. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I know the idea sounds hot.

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Speaker 1: But in practice.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, it's like I never I didn't think

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, girl on girl, like this is

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Speaker 3: like this is what, this is a this is a dream?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, well a lot of do what you're

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Speaker 1: texting right now? Hell yeah.

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Speaker 2: But I mean I don't think they're thinking about like

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Speaker 2: the fact that you love each other and had a

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Speaker 2: you know, functioning, healthy relationship before this, and and you

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Speaker 2: had an agreement.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's trust, it's about it's about trust, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think she broke she broke the trust of what

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let me take some phone calls on this,

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Speaker 2: you know, have the radio on, have iHeart on. We'll

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Speaker 2: see what happens. We'll see if people have to say

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Speaker 2: but good luck, thank you guys. Of course we're getting

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Speaker 2: all these sex Oh this is cool. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: isn't like the video though that you watched, you know,

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Speaker 2: yesterday or this morning, whatever you watch it. This isn't

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Speaker 2: like you know, what's on the internet. Like, this is

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Speaker 2: a real relationship. And they tried it and they had

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Speaker 2: a deal, and she broke the deal. And it's a

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Speaker 2: little more serious than that. Someone said, I've been the

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Speaker 2: third in two different marriages. It's never a good idea.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how did you meet I'm so curious how

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Speaker 2: The cost I'd like to have a little more information

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Speaker 2: from that. Hey, Jim, Jim, so you you've been like

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Speaker 2: THEO your wife and we're trying to keep this PG,

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Speaker 2: but your wife you brought in somebody else and then

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Speaker 2: your wife had like a little side quest there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, and we we had we decided to try

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Speaker 4: that out. As the lifestyle, and it comes down to

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Speaker 4: the communication has to be there. They probably jumped in

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Speaker 4: a little too quick.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, but is the relationship over? I mean,

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Speaker 2: can this be repaired?

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Speaker 1: Do you think?

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Speaker 4: Or it doesn't have It doesn't It doesn't have to

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Speaker 4: be because in the very beginning, me and my wife,

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Speaker 4: we both had kind of those feelings of the insecurity

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Speaker 4: and all that. But what it comes down to is

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Speaker 4: communication about the feelings. The feelings are normal. They've got

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Speaker 4: to be able to talk through it. And it may

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Speaker 4: not be for them. They may not enjoy it, and

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Speaker 4: it and he doesn't want to. That's the conversation they

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Speaker 4: have to be willing to have in those conversations are hard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but can you like unopen that door, Like I mean,

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Speaker 2: what if what if this has uncovered something within her

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Speaker 2: that she now feels she needs to fulfill and what

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Speaker 2: if he's not okay with that? I mean, is that

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Speaker 2: not something that you sort of that open yourself up, that.

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Speaker 4: That is something that that is something that could happen

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Speaker 4: and you know, that may be the end of their relationship,

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Speaker 4: but it doesn't have to.

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Speaker 2: Be okay, all right, Jim, thank you, have a good day.

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Speaker 2: Look at Jim over here.

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Speaker 1: Man. Hey Gabby, Hi, Hi Gabby. You say stay well?

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Speaker 6: So with like some conditions, yes, So, Like I think

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Speaker 6: that right now he should like kind of steer away

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Speaker 6: from the conversation of thinking that it's like hot. I

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Speaker 6: feel like that's kind of like the man you point

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Speaker 6: to go with, but maybe like having that open conversation

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Speaker 6: with her, that's something that like she actually wants to

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Speaker 6: explore within her sexuality. But I do think that she

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Speaker 6: is kind of going past the boundaries that they currently set.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that he should kind of just get

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Speaker 6: to happen between the two of us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't want to say that

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Speaker 2: this is just this is the risk you take when

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Speaker 2: you do stuff like this, but there is a risk

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Speaker 2: that he has to assume, right, I mean, and so

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Speaker 2: does she. And I'm not saying that that that they

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Speaker 2: should lie to each other or break the agreement, but

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Speaker 2: like there's a chance that you introduced this and the

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Speaker 2: other person really likes it or realizes that they really

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Speaker 2: have a connection with someone else, and then then then

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Speaker 2: you can't. You can't unbring that now, really is what

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Speaker 2: I mean. But thank you, Gabby. Have a good day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, of course, glad you called Na.

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Speaker 2: Hannah. I mean she is basically cheating, Hannah. I agree

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Speaker 2: with that. I mean because they had a deal Hannah. Hello, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Well I mean you call, you call the radio station.

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Speaker 2: But Hannah said she was basically cheating, and I agree.

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Speaker 2: Hey Shanny, Hello, Hi Seannie. So you say, stay, how

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Speaker 2: are you good?

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Speaker 1: How you doing? I do?

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Speaker 7: Stay safe? So I actually I am the one that

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Speaker 7: texted I've been a third and two different marriages.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, tell mar.

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Speaker 7: So it's a bad idea. They have a threesome to

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Speaker 7: begin with, and essentially she's having an emotional affair with

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Speaker 7: the other woman. I do think he should stay. I

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Speaker 7: do think he can save the relationship. But she needs

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Speaker 7: to cut all ties and they should not have threesomes ever.

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Speaker 2: Again, Well, if it's a bad idea, why'd you do

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Speaker 2: it two? I'm not judging you, but why'd you do

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Speaker 2: it twice?

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Speaker 4: So I was the third?

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Speaker 7: So I was not the one in a relationship. I

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Speaker 7: was the one invited into the relationships.

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Speaker 2: So you thought Noah Noel, Yeah again, I know where

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Speaker 2: Kilin's going with this.

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Speaker 1: How did you? How did you discover these folks with

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Speaker 1: whom to know?

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Speaker 7: So the both of them started with the female was

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Speaker 7: interested in having a threesome and invited me in the

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Speaker 7: first marriage that I got invited to. The man actually

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Speaker 7: got jealous because her and I started a relationship I

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Speaker 7: intew and then the second one, she got jealous because

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Speaker 7: than he was to her.

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Speaker 1: I'll just sound so dangerous to me. I mean, people

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Speaker 1: can do I know people can pull this off, but

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Speaker 1: I just think you are asking for it fish on

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Speaker 1: my part.

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Speaker 7: It may fell selfish on my part, but I was getting.

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Speaker 4: The best of both worlds.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was getting the woman and the man and

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Speaker 7: I had a relationship that was factory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I guess from your perspective, it's not

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Speaker 2: your relationship to maintain. But yeah, but now you're no more.

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Speaker 2: You're not doing it again.

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Speaker 7: No, I've learned mylf I've learned my lesson.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, Thank you, Seanning, have a good day.

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Speaker 4: Thank you too.

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Speaker 1: Wow he's a funer, you said, ain't my proper?

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's not my These aren't my terms to a pold

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Speaker 2: if I were that person.

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Speaker 1: But oh no, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think I wouldn't even like that because you know

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Speaker 2: what happens if you develop a connection with the person,

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Speaker 2: then it's like they're married, right.

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Speaker 5: And then what if, like the person you guys are

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Speaker 5: fighting and then your husband is confiding in her, or

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Speaker 5: like you're going to confide in her like that can

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Speaker 5: get so messy. I don't know if you do this

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Speaker 5: type of stuff, I sugg just doing it on vacation somewhere,

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Speaker 5: like you.

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Speaker 1: Never see the person again ever. Okay, I've ever done it. Yeah. Language,

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Speaker 1: I'll just say some sound advice. Yeah, we gotta be

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Speaker 1: on vacation.

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Speaker 2: You can't speak any we can't speak the same language.

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Speaker 2: You need to not have the internet, no social media.

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Speaker 2: In fact, if you don't have a phone, that's even better,

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Speaker 2: and then we can do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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