1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Request Left Show is a production of iHeart Radio. 2 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: What's going On? 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 3: This is cousin Jake from the Quest Love Show back 4 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 3: with our very own open Mic Eagle, the two affiliates 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: of the. 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: Pod Mike, how is uh? How's your weekend? 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 4: Man? It's weird. I'm about to go on tour, so 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 4: everything seems like not enough time. But also I think 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 4: I've done everything I gotta do already, like everything is 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 4: out just needs to be packed. But I still feel 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 4: the anxiety of needing to do things that I actually 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 4: don't need to do. 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: You're going to Europe Western Europe. 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 4: Well, I go to the Northeast first. So I have 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 4: a week where I'm doing Brooklyn, Montreal, Toronto, Lansing, Michigan 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: in Cleveland. 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 4: Then I come home for a week and then there's 19 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: the European run. 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: Ah got you got you? 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: When this runs, those dates will be active. Is there 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: anything you're especially looking forward to? 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: Well, we sold out Toronto, so I'm really happy about that. 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 4: I haven't I've realized I haven't been to Montreal or 25 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 4: Toronto as a headliner before. I've been to both places 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 4: and performed before, but it's my first time headliner. So 27 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 4: I'm excited Toronto sold out and excited to see my 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 4: Canadian homies. 29 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: That is dope. 30 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: I know you're in Philly several times a year. I 31 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: would be saying what's up to you in person? If 32 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: not this trip, but I'll catch you on the next 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: That's what's up? Yeah, man, So one thing you and 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: I have in common, and obviously we're here to talk 35 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: about the Quest Love show, which you know, please make 36 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 3: sure you are following, liking, subscribing, all of those things, telling. 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 4: The engagement thing, the important engagement things everything. 38 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean we've been doing these many episodes 39 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: for the last almost six months, and I am so 40 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 3: happy that not only have you gone from guests, which 41 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 3: is still an ongoing conversation to you know, being one 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: of the voices in the mix, and you and I 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: and you and a Mir and Amir and I we 44 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: have these different configurations of just trying to you know, 45 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: unpack and you know, we had a really special episode 46 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: that I think is near and dear to both you 47 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: and I with past news. Yes, and I just want 48 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: to begin right there, like, you know, talk to me 49 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: about what daylas soul and maybe what pass means to you. 50 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 4: I mean that in itself. That's the question that I 51 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: could spend quite a long time answering. I am fruit 52 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 4: from the Native Tongues tree, Like that was one of 53 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 4: the things I always in the back of my head 54 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 4: aspired to be one day is in Native Tongues because 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: of what they're not only just their music, but their 56 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: visual iconography and the way they dressed and the way 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: they all seem to get along and the way they 58 00:02:53,520 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 4: seem to not feel the need to to take on 59 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: a hardcore identity that it has always been popular in 60 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 4: hip hop, which seemed especially important at that time, Like 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 4: it really seemed to be a big deal to have 62 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 4: people who were going out of their way to not 63 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: be that. And for me, whereas like I've always grown 64 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 4: up in inner city environments during the eighties and the 65 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 4: nineties when things were very dangerous outside, I didn't always 66 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 4: want that in my rap music because I was just 67 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: living in that. And so I was always so inspired 68 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 4: by people who felt like they were bringing in a 69 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 4: different perspective or trying to find something other than, you know, 70 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: the world outside their window. So day La Soul Tribe, 71 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: Jungle Brothers, Black Sheep, leaders of the New School Queen Latia, 72 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: Fomony Love, all of that stuff. That entire movement has 73 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: just been incredibly important to me, and it's been my 74 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: north start my whole career. 75 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, and you I really on your episode, you know, 76 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: in late twenty twenty five you talked about that. I 77 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: think that was even you know, kind of the quote 78 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: unquote pold quote animation about you know, you wanting something 79 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: different than what was outside of your window or your environment. 80 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. I've gone back and forth in 81 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: my life. I've never I've never been an artists in 82 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: a musical sense, but Dayla Soul in particular all the 83 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 3: native tongues. Yes, but Dayla has always been. 84 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: You know, my favorite. 85 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 3: And I've seen the three of them in a number 86 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 3: of different places and spaces, and you know, have gotten 87 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 3: to work with them in limited capacity. I did a 88 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 3: bio for them in twenty nineteen when they were originally 89 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: going to do the relaunch with Tommy Boy, and I 90 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: didn't know what I was stepping into with that job. Yeah, 91 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: that's a conversation for another day. But these guys mean 92 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: everything to me, probably overlapping with you just in terms 93 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: of you know, I feel like people act like hip 94 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 3: hop started getting vulnerable in the last you know, fifteen years. 95 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: And to me, you know. 96 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: Even that line of you know, fbing hard posted news 97 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: is complicated. Yes, love that I Miib is one of 98 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 3: my favorite versus period, favorite songs period, And so to 99 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: have an audience, and I got to sit in when 100 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: Amir had the conversation with Pass and you know, a 101 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 3: few folks have asked too, and I know the backstory. 102 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: I've only been part of the QLs orbit since twenty 103 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: twenty two, but there is a Day Last Soul interview 104 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: that was taped somewhere between albums Not Long After and 105 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: the Anonymous Nobody, And you know, there's one or two 106 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: QLs interviews that Heaven run. 107 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: There's some that it was like a paperwork thing. This one. 108 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: Everyone on the team is looking for the tape and 109 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: the questlov Supreme kind of finale reunion episode. There's some 110 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: allusions to it, but my hope is that it turns 111 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: up somewhere. 112 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: I don't even know there was a lost tape. Yeah, 113 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 4: that's kind of fascinating. I had no idea about that. 114 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: There is, and I hear it was really good, but 115 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 3: it was in the early Days of QLs audio only 116 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: taped in I believe Amir's the roots dressing room of 117 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: thirty Rock in a cramp space, and I believe Maco, 118 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 3: Dave and Poss were all there, And yeah, I I 119 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: hope it comes up, but there was no motive from 120 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: my understanding as far as why Maco wasn't here. Instead, 121 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: I think that episode will have its own moment. It 122 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: hasn't happened yet, but it will. I think Amir really 123 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: wanted to isolate Pause. I mean, they are great friends. 124 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: And also, I'll say this for me, I don't like 125 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: the top five question, but if if somebody finds out 126 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: my passion or what I do for a living, if 127 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: you ask me a top five post, news is squarely 128 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: in it every single time. And I think Amir really 129 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: wanted to put a light specifically on him. 130 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 4: And I think that was really important to do too, 131 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 4: because as you sort of allude to when you talk 132 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 4: about you having worked with them, and then there's the 133 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: sense that the story was more complicated then you might 134 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 4: have imagined going in. From my understanding of Day Last 135 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 4: Soul's journey, there's a lot this gone on underneath the surface, 136 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: a lot that's gone on behind the scenes that is 137 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: a little more complicated than people might expect. The dynamics 138 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: are not always pretty, and I think like we've seen 139 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 4: tips of that iceberg over the years. Even in a 140 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 4: song like I Am ib we can hear oh things 141 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 4: inside native tongues. Like for us on the consumer side, 142 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: it looks rosy and we think everything still all good 143 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 4: because you know, we see one of them in a 144 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: video here and another one is doing a cameo there. 145 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: But the actual human beings involved in this have had 146 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: some tension, and I think that over the years day 147 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 4: La Soul because they've started out being so against the 148 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 4: grain in terms of hardcore, and they had to fight 149 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 4: being looked at as almost overly positive on Daylight Soul 150 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 4: is dead. But there's always been this inclination for US 151 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 4: fans to think that everything is rosy over there, you know, 152 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: because we don't hear about scandal. We don't hear about 153 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 4: a lot of public scuffles or them being involved in 154 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: anything violent, you know, like you hear about other rappers. 155 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: I think we assume that everything is all good and rosie, 156 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: but when you scratch the surface, I think there's a 157 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 4: lot of story to tell and That's one of the 158 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: things that was interested in this episode was just to 159 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 4: hear you can hear the years when you listen to 160 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: pause talk about these things starting a journey from where 161 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 4: they started in hip hop and what eighty eight to 162 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 4: twenty twenty six, and to still be vibrant and active 163 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 4: and having weathered so many storms. It's really an incredible story. 164 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 4: It's unique, like who else that started in eighty eight 165 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: has that type of catalog and still current output with 166 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 4: no you know, no ten to fifteen year gap. 167 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: No, no, no, not even I mean, other than the 168 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: tragedy of losing course, Dave, I don't really think I 169 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: mean even their liberation you know from Tommy Boy, and 170 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: you know, their pursuit of owning their own music. You know, 171 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: amazing story. I don't think there's a blemish. You know, 172 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: I've never you know, you speak of, you know, addressing 173 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: each other. And I love that they've always been able 174 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 3: to do that, whether it's the Native Tongues or day 175 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 3: Lah without drastic consequences, Like it's a group that feels 176 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 3: to me like life and so yeah, I mean, there's 177 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: so much in this two hour interview, and it was 178 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: really cool just to be a fly on the wall 179 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: and pass. 180 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: Was so generous, you know. 181 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: I will say, even in the biocapacity, I've interviewed the 182 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: guys over the years, but I've never felt like I've 183 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: had a great dayla interview. And I've never looked at 184 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: that as certainly not their fault, and I never really 185 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: looked at it as my own. I think what I 186 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: see is the trusted peerhood of AMR and Posse and 187 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: why that allows just such an open discussion because you know, 188 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: it comes from a place of love and trust. 189 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's what I was getting at earlier, 190 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 4: and I think a better way for me to say 191 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 4: it is that or another aspect of it is that 192 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 4: they have been like a closed system, you know, the 193 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 4: three of them like, and I've heard it described as 194 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 4: impenetrable for some people trying to work with them on 195 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 4: different things. It's not always easy. And I do think 196 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 4: that what you keep in on there in terms of 197 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: trust is really important because to be on that unique 198 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 4: of a journey and to have seen the things they've seen, 199 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 4: I bet they've been burned, you know. I bet they've 200 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 4: been burned before. I bet you know, people have wanted 201 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: to exploit them. People have wanted to manipulate them, and 202 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: you know, I'll say one of the things that I 203 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 4: thought was, like, it's like an interesting through line through 204 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: the conversation was how many times pods would explain something 205 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 4: as being done out of spite, but in. 206 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: A way that we would have never know. 207 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like the oodles thing going directly at 208 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 4: run DMC or uh yeah, well no, no, no, it's the 209 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 4: it was the after connections at the High five because 210 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 4: of yeah, oodles of O's. 211 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: And you heard any of that story before? 212 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 4: No, I'd never heard me, neither me neither heard that. 213 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: And I love I mean, it's just such a fun 214 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 3: moment of delight where a mire goes, you know, are 215 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: you if I ask real nice like will you tell 216 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: that story here? And Boss was like yeah, He's like 217 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: are you sure? And Poss was like yeah. 218 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: And then he tells it and it's funny too. 219 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: I mean, the beautiful thing is is like Poss understates 220 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: not only you know was DMC and Jim Aster j 221 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: like fans and they kind of laugh at where Revron 222 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: was at that point in time. But it's it's clearly 223 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: a full circle of respect and all the things. I 224 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: didn't know that either, and there's allusions to it online 225 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 3: I found in my research, but never told as completely. 226 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 3: So just you and I both being fans. My first 227 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: question to you is is there a world where you 228 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 3: can imagine run DMC on the noodles of ospete? 229 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 4: I did try to think of that when it was said, 230 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 4: and I can kind of hear it. But it also 231 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 4: makes me think about where you know, run DMC was 232 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: around that time, and this is what like ninety one 233 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 4: is this is like down with the King era like 234 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 4: around then. Yeah, so they were trying to, you know, 235 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: get on different sounds, like jump on stuff that was 236 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 4: more modern, like them wrapping over Pete Rock, like like, oh, 237 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: this is interesting. I'm not sure if it fits perfect, 238 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: but it seems interesting. So I think I could hear 239 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 4: I could hear DMC on it a little more comfortably 240 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 4: in my mind, but maybe that was the issue. 241 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, It's one of those questions. 242 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: And again it's a beautiful thing of Amir's curiosity because 243 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: I would never think to ask them who they were 244 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 3: talking about. Hey, that's a brazen question for a journal 245 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: to ask, Like you better be you know, I think 246 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: there's a lot of armchair folks that just come out 247 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: the gate with these heavy asks. But my infinite respect 248 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: for these guys. I would feel some type of way 249 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: asking them, like, who were you getting at in that? 250 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: You know? 251 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: The interesting thing to me is as a listener, I 252 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: don't know that I ever thought that they were talking 253 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 4: about anybody in particular, because this whole album was them 254 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 4: sort of going at groups of people, you know, mostly 255 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 4: people who whose perception of them was wrong. I didn't 256 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 4: know that they had a particular act in mind when 257 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: they were saying it, And honestly, that never crossed my 258 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 4: mind that it might have been somebody in particular. 259 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's funny for me, like my genesis 260 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: into hip hop was you know, in ninety five, ninety four, 261 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 3: ninety five, But like at one hand I was listening 262 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: to Tribe, On another I was listening to Tupac. So 263 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: part of me and I was very much in my 264 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 3: early adolescence at that point, was getting you know, used 265 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: to controversy and to you know, things meaning you know, 266 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 3: everything has a target and you learn nuanced later and 267 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 3: then over time you realize like I don't really you know, 268 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: like I don't need to know, but it was funny 269 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 3: to listen to all that, indeed, and a lot of 270 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: people really gravitated onto that. I know that became the 271 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: animation Amir called that in episode like this is this 272 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: is what I want to go with, and let's let's 273 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: bleep the names and get folks in the door. What 274 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: else to you just as a fan of your magnitude 275 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: stuck to you in this episode? 276 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: Okay, so my fan hood is obviously a component here. 277 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: I think that my previous interviews of Prince Paul and 278 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: Dante Ross also give me an interesting perspective into things too, 279 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 4: like when pas Is talked talking about the Turtles lawsuit, 280 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 4: like I talked to Dante Ross and found out that 281 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 4: what paus was describing was the frustration not only of 282 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: having been in the lawsuit, but feeling like, oh, we 283 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: told Tommy Boy what was what these samples were, and 284 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 4: they didn't clear them, and now we're getting sued and 285 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 4: Tommy Boy is trying to settle the lawsuit out of 286 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 4: our money, like and I can feel that frustration, And 287 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 4: I remember Dante Ross telling me that yes, they did 288 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: tell them all of the samples. But what Dante Ross 289 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 4: and Tom Silverman, I think thought was that they only 290 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: needed to clear samples in the songs. Ok, they didn't 291 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: think they needed to clear the samples in the interludes. 292 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 4: And that's that was the gap where the whole thing 293 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: fell through. 294 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: That was interesting too, and I appreciated that a mirror 295 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: pointed to the two kind of landmark lawsuits as I 296 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: understand as a student. You know Bismarcky and Gilbert O'Sullivan 297 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: and then you know Daylight Soul in the Turtles, and 298 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: it was it was funny to imagine, and posted really 299 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: quality voices of the legal team, you know, and explaining 300 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: it that there was at one point like, hey, you know, 301 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: maybe we can do something together and settle this. And 302 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: I like Pass's point, and again it speaks to that 303 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: that humanity of them of also just like we all 304 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: go through things, we all have opportunities to be chippy 305 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: or petty or whatever the word is. But they were like, 306 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: if that was what it was about, that's not how 307 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: you would have approached it to begin with. And honestly, 308 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: to imagine a world where there's a Dayla remix of 309 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: Flowing Eddie or Turtles. 310 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 4: I dig it, man, because I'm you know, I messed 311 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 4: with flowing Eddie on the Frank Zappa stuff too, Like 312 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, that would have been kind of crazy. 313 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: That would have been kind of crazy to marry those 314 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 4: two sounds. To see what happened is funny. It reminds 315 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 4: me like the Judgment Night Sounds track, like interesting, you know, 316 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 4: but even an even probably more musically interesting thing than 317 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 4: what ended up happened in his part of that soundtrack. 318 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I something that stood out to me, and it 319 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 3: was just a few seconds of the conversation, but like, 320 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: you know, in a different way than Fife and Q Tip, 321 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 3: or a different way than Big Boy and Andre three thousand, 322 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: you know, Dave and Poss have always seemed to me, 323 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 3: and maybe because I fell in love with Daylas Soul 324 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: again when I was you know, twelve or thirteen, but 325 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: a unified front. I mean, they had very distinct voices, 326 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 3: but they always seemed in my mind to share the 327 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: same thesis on each song in a beautiful way, really 328 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: harmonious way. And I loved in two places where Pass 329 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: really broke down the contrast. I mean, he said, you know, 330 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: the entire stakes is high recording. You know that Dave 331 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: was really into focus on the industry Yeah, in a 332 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: way that poss is inspired and focused on life, and 333 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: you know, realizing they're both you know, family men, they're 334 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 3: both you know, going through all of that, I just 335 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: thought that, like that that compelled me to want to 336 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 3: replay the album and just see what that information does 337 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: to me and listening again. 338 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 4: Right, running it back and seeing it through that perspective. 339 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I really also appreciated, you know, he spoke 340 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: about in focus. 341 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: And Dave being at I don't. 342 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 3: It's not fair for me, but like I'm paraphrasing, but 343 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: just at a kind of maybe a checked out place, 344 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 3: you know, not feeling the way things were going. 345 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 4: Because he was mentioning a lot of interviews that they 346 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 4: have done over the past few years when Dave was 347 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 4: still with us, what they were talking about that era, 348 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 4: and I keep wanted to call him rse now because 349 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 4: he kept be friends to himself. Yeah, he was talking 350 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 4: about hearing Dave talk about that time and it being 351 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: even revealing to him him not necessarily knowing how checked 352 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 4: out Dave was. But I read those interviews too, and 353 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 4: those interviews were like heartbreaking for me because Balloon Mind 354 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 4: State is such an important album to me. It was 355 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: like really tough for me to hear that Dave doesn't 356 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 4: like that album or his idea of what the legacy 357 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 4: of that album is. The reason I love it is 358 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 4: because it's so far away from what everybody else was doing. 359 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 4: But that's like the same thing he doesn't like about 360 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 4: it because he feels like at that point them as 361 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 4: Daylight Soul was too far away from what everything else 362 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 4: was doing in hip hop, you know. So that was 363 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 4: a tough thing for me to wrap my head around 364 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 4: when he was doing those interviews. 365 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's interesting, I mean during the pandemic when 366 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: you spoke with Prince Paul on what had happened was 367 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: talking I love that album too, and if you I 368 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 3: go back and forth personally between Daylight Soul Is Dead 369 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: and Blue Mind State. 370 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 4: Same here. 371 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 3: And it's interesting to hear Paul's perspective too, because that 372 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 3: came at a time when they pass were diverging, and 373 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: Paul spoke about that in a way on your podcast 374 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: that was super just like I remember where I was 375 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 3: when I was listening to that episode, and I was like, 376 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: that's and then to realize that all of these guys 377 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 3: were going through different things while each and the same orbit. 378 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 3: It just it comes back to beautiful art. It makes 379 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 3: me want to play it again and consider what we 380 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: know now when we're still learning. Yeah, was there any 381 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 3: moment in the Questlam show conversation that made you throw 382 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: on a song, hit pause and focus? 383 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: Okay, but on in Focus in the middle of that 384 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: and the middle of them talking about in Focus. I 385 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 4: put it on because I was like, there's a bunch 386 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: of songs on Blue Mindset that I know that album 387 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 4: front to back. I don't always know the names of 388 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 4: all the songs, so I was like, wait a minute, 389 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 4: what is in Focus? And what is this sort of 390 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 4: attitude that they're describing that's in that song. And as 391 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 4: soon as it became an R remember and I'm like, 392 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 4: this is the one where I remember PAS talking about 393 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: people acting like they don't know Dayla soul anymore because 394 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 4: Black Sheep is hot now. And I remember viscerally taking 395 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 4: that in when I was listening to it when I 396 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 4: was young, and I just I loved even I just 397 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 4: love the sort of MC that would put that in 398 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 4: the song. Yeah, Like I love that because it's not 399 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 4: a course, it's not a disc to the person he's 400 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 4: in a crew with it's sort of this. It is 401 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 4: really accessing a vulnerable feeling about what it means to 402 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 4: be at a certain place in the industry and sort 403 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 4: of watch things come and go, and you know, at 404 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: that point you don't know if dey La Soul is 405 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 4: ever going to be back on top of the mountain. 406 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 4: You might it could be black Sheep now forever, right, 407 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 4: So I always just thought it was so cool that 408 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 4: he spoke on that feeling and put it in that song. 409 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 4: I think in the conversation I sort of realized, oh, 410 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 4: like that sort of frustration is in the entire song 411 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 4: in ways that I wasn't really keyed into before. 412 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: That's dope. 413 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: I had a similar experience, And yeah, I mean it 414 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: dovetails of what you're saying, but a mere asked, you know, 415 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: in regard to you know, the nowadays we don't even 416 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: speak lyric And it was interesting to hear Paus and 417 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 3: I've heard this in other interviews where you know, they 418 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 3: would play those. 419 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: Songs for each other. 420 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 4: That was so surprising to me. 421 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 3: I think that so often now when people when MC's 422 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: or when artists say provocative things about peers, we imagine 423 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: this like throwing pebbles at the window to try to 424 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: get attention and what is so unique to native tongues 425 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 3: and you know, I know Outcast has done this too, 426 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 3: when other people was like no, it's like I'm going 427 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 3: to address what's on my mind and I'm going to 428 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: have the dignity to show you what I have to say, 429 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: and then we're gonna let We're gonna draw the curtain 430 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 3: back and show the world. And to me, that's just 431 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 3: what makes that's why, you know, Lord Willing, I'll be 432 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: eighty five years old to listen to Blue Mind State 433 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: in the Rocking Chair. 434 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 4: You know, it's that kind of album like I remember 435 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 4: I listened first listened to when I was thirteen, and 436 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: I'll never forget like when I first heard that album. 437 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 4: It's one of those ones you can always come back 438 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: to it. It's timeless. 439 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: Did you hear that album before you heard the two 440 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: before it? 441 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: Or no? I think I heard them all. Okay, I 442 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: definitely had heard Three Feet High and Rise of First, 443 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 4: but not in a way where I was like conscious 444 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 4: of it really at all. I would say around the 445 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 4: time I got my hands on Ballue Mind State, that 446 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 4: is like the beginning of my peak hip hop love 447 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: so all that ninety three stuff, so Ballue Mind State, 448 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 4: Midnight Marauders, even like JB's with the remedy. Like, I 449 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 4: was just really big on all the ninety three stuff, 450 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 4: and so I think I heard the ninety three stuff 451 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 4: and the ninety one stuff around the same time. But 452 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 4: the sound quality, these lush soundscapes and all of the 453 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 4: ninety three stuff, I feel like so much of that 454 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 4: is Bob Power too. That was really where I sort 455 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 4: of settled in and rooted it, like this is my 456 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 4: favorite stuff ever, but I can't remember the order in 457 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 4: which I heard. 458 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just you know, another thing that stuff 459 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 3: to me is the Bob Power part of the discussion 460 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 3: of you know, plug one wonder why And like I've 461 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 3: I stood next to Bob Power one time at one 462 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: of Amer's birthdays, and I didn't It was one of 463 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 3: those things where it's just like other people were talking 464 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: to him and having a high level conversation and I 465 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 3: wanted to let them be. You know, it's like Dan 466 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 3: Charnas and Bob Powers different folks. 467 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 4: That's the hell of a conversation exactly. 468 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: And you know, I didn't want to just see my 469 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 3: way into that. And of course these given what's transpired, 470 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 3: I wish, you know, I had listened a little more closely, 471 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: but I thought it was a really human thing for 472 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: past to share of just what Bob brought to the 473 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: group and to his life and the type of human 474 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 3: being that he was. 475 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know what a huge loss. 476 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And I encourage everyone to listen to the episode. 477 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 3: I know we're like talking about the movie if you 478 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: haven't listen, and that's what this is about. But I'll 479 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: why don't we close the episode? And I know these 480 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: sorts of questions changed with the day, So I'm going 481 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: to ask you open Mike Eagle today, what is your 482 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: favorite daylast soul song or if you like, if you prefer, 483 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: what's your favorite past news verse? 484 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 4: Man, it's you know, given having sat with that interview 485 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 4: and just where I sit right now with my own music, 486 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 4: that's like about my life, I can't help but think 487 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 4: about I am I b I just like that that. 488 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 4: You know what I'm really happy about too, that that 489 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 4: is one of Patz's favorite songs. That's what I'm happy 490 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 4: about me too. 491 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: I love that And you made my answer easier because 492 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 3: that's that's arguably at times my favorite just song. 493 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: In the Cannon period. 494 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: But I'll say Trying People because I know a lot 495 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: of our discussion and a lot of a mirrors discussion 496 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: focused on. 497 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 4: The earlier stuff. 498 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, nineties day Last. 499 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: Soul, and you know, I love AOI, I love grinding, 500 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: I love it all, you know. I mean to me, 501 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 3: it's a group that got on base every time they 502 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 3: got up to the plate. To use a shitty sports analogy, 503 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: but Trying People, you know, I think of that lyric 504 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 3: from Dave where is just as I cry a lot 505 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: like to me, you get to two thousand and nine 506 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 3: and a lot of people act like, you know what, 507 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 3: what certain individuals were adding to hip hop was new 508 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: and raw and crazy, and it's not. I mean, you 509 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 3: can go even back to the eighties of vulnerability and 510 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 3: things like that. But I think of all of the 511 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 3: bold things that you can say on a record, and 512 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: Trying People is a perfect having a complicated season of 513 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: life for a weird day hip hop song. 514 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 4: Am I remembering correctly that on that song? Because I 515 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 4: know it's a song. I don't know if it's that 516 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 4: song where Pat says I got fans all over the world, 517 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 4: but my girls not one of them. That Yeah, I 518 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: don't know if that's on that, but that line always yeah, 519 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 4: Like that's the that to me, Like that's the definition 520 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 4: of like indie hip hop, like underground hip hop, like 521 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 4: where you can have that sort of fandom, but sometimes 522 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 4: that people that are closest to you just aren't into it. 523 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: You know. 524 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 4: It's it's not necessarily for your friends and family. It's 525 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 4: for people who are into this particular thing, which is 526 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 4: not everybody, right, And so like that was just one 527 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 4: of them little statements like, oh I feel that so deeply. 528 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that's a great lyric and also I mean 529 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: it came out of the interview. I always knew that 530 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: for all of the great you know production that day 531 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 3: Law did themselves, and that it's really interesting in the 532 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 3: interview to hear some of the singular attributions of posspying, 533 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 3: like Dave did that beat, or Mace did that beat 534 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: or I did that beat, you know, and of course 535 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: Prince Paul, but that that was I think it's one 536 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 3: of their brothers. 537 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 4: I think it was yeah, Lucky Yeah, yeah, And I 538 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 4: didn't know who that was until this interview exactly. 539 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 3: And it's one of those things where I just was 540 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 3: imagining especially in that era of like day Law is 541 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: probably getting some beat submissions, but like who it just 542 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: just that colonel in passing, You know that that sends 543 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: the mind wondering. So I appreciate this discussion. Thank you 544 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 3: everyone that's supporting these Quest Love Show minis. We are 545 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 3: trying to do them between episodes. Talk about things that 546 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: stand out to us. Definitely, this is a three sixty conversation. 547 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 3: So you know, folks, if you have you know, questions 548 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 3: or things you want talked about, we always try to 549 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 3: get the questions over to a mirror. But go to 550 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: questlovesupreme dot com. There's a contact us or you can 551 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: direct message QLs. That's the best place and we try to, 552 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 3: you know, make this an organic conversation. 553 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: But Mike, thank you, man, of course, thank you. 554 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 4: This is amazing. 555 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: Question of show is a production of iHeartRadio.