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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middletop three and Out podcast,

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Speaker 1: May as I hit record in the afternoon, it's been

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Speaker 1: a good day. It looks like, Uh, we'll dive in

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Speaker 1: off the top on some news about Corona and football,

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Speaker 1: you know, and just sports in general being able to

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Speaker 1: be played in California potentially New York, you know, and

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Speaker 1: I think that was a major question mark and it

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Speaker 1: really has been over the last month, and we'll dive

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Speaker 1: into that all. Uh, the NFL is turning into a

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Speaker 1: little bit of the wild wild West. They've had about

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Speaker 1: four or five players been arrested, uh, several involved with guns,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's been a crazy time. You know. It's

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Speaker 1: not ideal the NFL and football in general thrives with

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Speaker 1: a very very strict schedule. And right now the NFL,

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Speaker 1: because of the quarantine and Corona and the Zoom meetings,

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Speaker 1: isn't you know, these guys are all over the place

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Speaker 1: doing whatever they want to do, and it's it's kind

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Speaker 1: of causing some issues. And then the Rooney Rule and

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Speaker 1: some new additions. Potentially by the time you're listening to this,

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Speaker 1: the vote will happen or not on adding some compensation

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Speaker 1: in the form of of draft picks to hiring minority coaches.

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Speaker 1: So I have some thoughts there, and then of course

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Speaker 1: the Middlecoff mail back at John Middlecoff. I've had some

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Speaker 1: people reach out and be like Middlecoff kind of sarcastically.

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Speaker 1: Why do you keep saying slide into your d m s?

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Speaker 1: That's what young people say about trying to hook up

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Speaker 1: however you want to say it's slide. I don't care

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Speaker 1: how you consider it. It's a joke. I've been sarcastic

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Speaker 1: about it the whole time. On on Twitter or excuse

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Speaker 1: me on Instagram. Twitter. My d ms are not open

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Speaker 1: Instagram they are, and ask me whatever you want. We

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Speaker 1: call it the Middlecoff mailbag, and we do it right

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Speaker 1: here Twitter. You can tweet at me whenever you want.

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Speaker 1: Same handle at John Middlecoff is the name. Also, appreciate

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Speaker 1: everyone that has done it, if you could keep doing it.

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Speaker 1: people leave two and three stars. Listen, do whatever your

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Speaker 1: little heart desires, whatever you feel's fair Son, you I

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Speaker 1: would appreciate a five if you listen. Great if if

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Speaker 1: you're a hater, you know I like haters too, so

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Speaker 1: uh so, dive in there and thanks for everyone that has.

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Speaker 1: The last time I check her at ninety, you just

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Speaker 1: start off with this. The Michael Jordan documentary, I think

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Speaker 1: It's just awesome. It's a trip down memory lane. I

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Speaker 1: found myself, uh being pretty nostalgic over this probably past

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Speaker 1: month us. You know, so many games from the nineties

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Speaker 1: of kind of living in the past and no one

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Speaker 1: it shows you how famous if you became Michael Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's just think of some of the most prints,

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Speaker 1: famous like online that famous maybe, but nowhere near Like

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's fame actually has never been stronger than it

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Speaker 1: But I digress. Michael Jordan said something on the documentary

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Speaker 1: positive person because I I do think it impacts your

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Speaker 1: life dramatically, professionally, personally, in just in every element. And

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Speaker 1: I think you are It's life's too short to be miserable.

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Speaker 1: s obs, terrible way to live. And that's the thing

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Speaker 1: that there is no disputing it. It's what I've struggled

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Speaker 1: With sports, it became a little more you know, complex,

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Speaker 1: changing by the day. Everyone's freaking out and I've tried

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Speaker 1: May eighteen. But I never understood as as we started

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Speaker 1: And I know Dave Portnoy had a big ran about it.

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Speaker 1: for it, and I this shouldn't be that polarizing an issue.

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Speaker 1: We should want to save people and at the same

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Speaker 1: It should We should celebrate people being able to go

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Speaker 1: negative about it. Whether you're talking about yourself listen, I

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Speaker 1: would imagine everyone listening has been impacted in some way,

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Speaker 1: And I do appreciate some of these governors in Listen.

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Speaker 1: Big business runs America. It pays for everything. The state

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Speaker 1: lose the forty Niners, the Rams, the Chargers, maybe some

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Speaker 1: Their goal is to make money. It just happens in

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Speaker 1: what I talk about. It's a game that they monetize.

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Speaker 1: in the media or that you like watching, you're ultimately

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Speaker 1: Like that's the That's why we call players assets, right,

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Speaker 1: they're they're not They're not your normal employees like Tom

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Speaker 1: a person being an asset. But you could argue, is

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Speaker 1: Bob Iger an asset for Disney? Of course he is?

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Speaker 1: You know, is is Colin Coward an asset for Fox?

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Speaker 1: Of course he is? Right? Is Howard Stern an asset

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Speaker 1: for Serious? Like? So a lot of other businesses are

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Speaker 1: But it's not like I wouldn't call you a millionaire,

428
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: not even close. You get drafted in the first round,

429
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: you're an immediate millionaire. And that's when you're reading some

430
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: of these stories are getting in these dice games of

431
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: sixties seventy thousand dollars, Well, they have more money to bet,

432
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, I never ever criticize someone for betting. Like, listen,

433
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm pro gambling, but I couldn't bet. I

434
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 1: don't have seventy thousand dollars when I could look at

435
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: my bank acount, wouldn't even have the ability to get

436
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: into a seventy tho dice game. But I could get

437
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: into a seven dice game. Some people would be like,

438
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 1: you're crazy, right, Money is all relative, and these guys

439
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of money, and I don't care. Even

440
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: if you do have a million dollars in the bank,

441
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars still seven thousand dollars. There's one thing

442
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,959
Speaker 1: to lose, seven hundred dollars, even if you only have,

443
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: you know, a thousand dollars, seventy dollars a lot of money,

444
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: regardless who you are, because to get seven thousand dollars

445
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: you have to make you know, because taxas so seven

446
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: thou dollars is net income. But I think it does

447
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 1: show that the NFL, the nature of their sport, they

448
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: just got some crazy guys, and they got guys that

449
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: just part of putting a team together. You're not gonna

450
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: have fifty three or you know, the thing about the

451
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: off season is some of these guys. Now, DeAndre Baker

452
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: was a first rounder, so he wouldn't get cut, and

453
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: At Oliver won't either, also a first rounder. Cody Lottimore

454
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: on the Redskins, he who knows. You know, there's ninety guys,

455
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: give or take. I would imagine if we did the

456
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: breakdown on every roster. That's the thing with the off season.

457
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 1: So you have ninety times thirty two, so you have

458
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: a large percentage of guys that could get in trouble. Now, again,

459
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make excuse or anything because two

460
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: of these four our first round picks and are basically untouchable.

461
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: But you do have guys that can get in trouble

462
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: because their sketchy characters to just play football, that one

463
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: be on the team in the fall. But the NFL,

464
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: and this is why coaches, you know, I get they've

465
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: adapted well, but they would do anything to have O

466
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: t s right now because they could at least have

467
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: their team altogether. And the story for DeAndre Baker is

468
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: like he won't be allowed to attend the virtual meetings.

469
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that that'll teach him a lesson.

470
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: No virtual meetings for DeAndre Baker. Way to go Giants,

471
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: no franchise like the Giants love getting on their moral

472
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: high horse. We stand for something here, give me a break,

473
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: you know. And again I'm a little biased Philly guy,

474
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: but it's like, you know, you had Josh Brown a

475
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, your best player ever was doing

476
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: crack like you're just you're no different than anyone else.

477
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: And DeAndre Baker is a great example. And let's just

478
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: let's just hope for the NFL's standpoint, that's just it

479
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: kind of you know, we don't have an arrest here

480
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. Ex have some guys lalo

481
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: uh try to say, out of trouble, keep the keep

482
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: the firearms in the safe, and let's let's try not

483
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: to discharge them. Okay, let's dive in. And as I

484
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: said off the early in the show that by the

485
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: time you're listening to this, maybe this rule gets overturned.

486
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: I guess they're just voting on it, so maybe it

487
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: doesn't pass. But we'll dive into the Rooney rule and

488
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: the additions of if you hire a minority coach you

489
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: move up six spots. If you might hire a minority

490
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: general manager, you move up ten spots in the third round.

491
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: There are also different additions. If you have a black

492
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: quarterback coach who's there more than a year, you get

493
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: compensations like fourth and fifth rounds and uh as uh

494
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Speaker 1: COMPENSI story picks and full disclosure. I'm a white guy.

495
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: So there's only so many elements I'm gonna be able

496
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 1: to talk about this. I I can't relate to some

497
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: of the situations that come across with coaches or general

498
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: managers of color trying to get jobs. But what I

499
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 1: have always pushed back on a little bit. And I

500
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: know that Dan Levitt, Cards and the extremists that love

501
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: talking about race always it's clear they always think everyone's

502
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: getting screwed and it's a major issue in the NFL.

503
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: Now from my experience working two years at Present State,

504
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,239
Speaker 1: our team was definitely majority black, and I think our

505
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: coaching staff was too. And then with the Philadelphia Eagles,

506
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: I never heard race come up one time with a

507
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: player talking about player acquisition. With coaching, I was never

508
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: involved with hiring a coach. Uh, So I don't know now,

509
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,239
Speaker 1: I know when I was at Fresno State when we

510
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: hired we hired black coaches, multiple black coaches, and then

511
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: we were looking for a wide receiver and running back coach,

512
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: and that's just who we hied. When I was with

513
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: the Eagles, we hired Sean McDermott, or we fired Sean McDermott.

514
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: One Castillo became the defensive coordinator and Todd Bowles was

515
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: also hired. So again, in my experience with Pat Hill

516
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: and with the Andy Reid, it never came up. I

517
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: have zero experience around that or that type. Thinking clearly

518
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: it impacts some franchises. I'm just speaking from my experience.

519
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: I've never personally gone through it. Again, white guy and

520
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: working unlike the media, who just you know is can

521
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: be consumed sometime with this stuff. I've lived it and

522
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: I didn't see it, but I was on I only

523
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: worked for one team, and a pretty open minded team

524
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: led by Jeffrey Lury who was really really open minded.

525
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: But clearly things need to change in the NFL. I

526
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: counted today there are four black head coaches or I

527
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: guess three black head coaches, and in Ron Rivera who's

528
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: a minority, and there are issues and that that's often

529
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: talked about it's hard to just get in front of

530
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: an owner and I Albert Brewer wrote that the most

531
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: three recent general managers of color were promotions, so a

532
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: big element was they were already in the billing and

533
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: the owner was around the guy, and the hardest part

534
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: is just getting interaction with the owner who's at the

535
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: end of the day signing the checks. Now, I don't

536
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: necessarily have an issue with attempting to fix this rule

537
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: and try to add incentives to hire a minority coach,

538
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: but I also think, ultimately, again maybe I'm naive to this.

539
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: If I'm an owner and I interviewed three guys and

540
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: I think this guy is the best guy for the job,

541
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: and I have a two billion dollar franchise, I'm pretty

542
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: sure I'm gonna hire who I feels best for the job.

543
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: Maybe call me crazy, but in my experience, that's really

544
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: what you've done. Now, factoring in who that head coach hires,

545
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: the nepotism and stuff, that's a different conversation. I'm just

546
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: talking about it from an owner's standpoint. In the reality,

547
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: with general managers, they really don't get fired that often,

548
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: maybe like one maybe two a year. The head coaching

549
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: turnover is really high, and it's a complicated issue because

550
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: like the one year when all there were a ton

551
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: of minorities and they all got fired. It's like, yeah,

552
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson was awful. I think Vance Joseph is one

553
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: of the worst defensive coordinators I've ever seen. Steve Wilkes

554
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: was beyond over his head, Like is that okay to say? Now,

555
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: from a hiring standpoint, one addition potentially to this Rooney

556
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: rule is they're going to add a minute instead of

557
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: just one minority candidate, you have to interview too, and

558
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: as people in the industry and reading quotes from the

559
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: MMQB and Peter King, a big thing is just getting

560
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: in front of them. I actually like that because sometimes

561
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, once upon a time, was a Rooney Rule candidate, right,

562
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: look at him, turn out pretty damn good, probably a

563
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: top five coach in the NFL. But when you talk

564
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: about incentivizing a team with a third round pick, you

565
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: think an owner, if they don't think the guy is good,

566
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: or if all things are equal, the third round pick

567
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: is going to change much. I really don't. I really

568
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: don't think they will give a damn about that. Now,

569
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: when it comes to coordinators. I also struggle with this.

570
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you see guys of coordinators and

571
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: they're not getting head coaching jobs, people go, they're getting screwed.

572
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: I've said this before, but you know, the guy getting

573
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: screwed is the dude in a warehouse who's doing the

574
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: majority of the work and he's probably getting fifteen dollars

575
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: an hour. Thirty of the thirty two offensive coordinators in

576
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen made over a million dollars. And they're

577
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: way more than two head coaches colin plays, right, there

578
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: are a ton of head coaching play colors, and I

579
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: would imagine the two offensive coordinators who are not making

580
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: a million, we're making somewhere between eight hundred fifty and

581
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: a million dollars, right, or nine thousand dollars, so that

582
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: you're talking elite wealth. And when these coaches signed these contracts.

583
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: As an assistant coach, for the most part, you get

584
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: three year deal. Every defensive coordinator in the league. Let

585
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: me repeat, every defensive coordinator in the league made over

586
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: a million dollars in two thousand nine. That includes like

587
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph, who's a god awful coach. And it seems

588
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: like a nice guy, just not a good coach, Robert Sala.

589
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they're just minorities all over the league at

590
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: coordinator positions. Now, I get a lot of people aspire

591
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: to be a you know, a head coach. But I've

592
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: always said this, a lot of guys should just stay

593
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: in the coordinator role for a long period of time,

594
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: rack up millions of dollars, and not have to worry

595
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: about They're not meant to be head coaches, just like

596
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: not everyone, not everyone is meant to be in a

597
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: some people are bees, right. We see it all the

598
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: time in football. A lot of guys become North Turner

599
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: really good coordinator, bad head coach. It's like Wade Phillips,

600
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: good coordinator, bad head coach. Now the incentive like for

601
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 1: quarterback coaches and get guys in the pipeline, I understand,

602
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: But I'm not a coach, never aspired to be, never

603
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: wanted to be, don't have the patience to be one.

604
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can like force guys into

605
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: spots like you're just gonna take a running back coach

606
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: and put them at a quarterback coach, Like do you

607
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 1: think a coach is just gonna do that or an

608
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: owner are going to force a coach to do that.

609
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: That doesn't make much sense. Arguably, the two best position

610
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: coaches I've been around in my life or was Tim

611
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: Skipper when I was at Fresno State, who went with

612
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: Jim mcwaine to Colorado State in Florida has been at

613
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: UNLV and Do Staley at with the Eagles, who have

614
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: been blocked from different coordinator jobs. But those are two

615
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: easily the best position coaches I was around by far. Now,

616
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: I don't claim to have been around football for thirty years,

617
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: but I also whenever I went to a practice, And

618
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: this is what I struggle with. Once you start working

619
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: in sports, you don't even see race. You don't even

620
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: talk about it. It's just just part of the team, right,

621
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: whatever has to happen to win the game. Now, the

622
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: point of this, you know, change is a hiring practice,

623
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: which I understand, and I I like, hell, make it

624
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: three people, because if you're gonna go to a legit

625
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: open search. I also struggle with this. If you're a

626
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: team and you know, let's say next year you want

627
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: to hire Lincoln Riley and Lincoln Riley says he's in

628
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: do I still like that's my issue with the Rooney rule,

629
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: and most teams right don't have one candidate mind. They

630
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: want to interview like five or six people. Hell, I

631
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: might up that number to three. You have to interview

632
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: three minority candidates, right, That wouldn't bother me, Like, I

633
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: think that would make some sense? Why why too? Would

634
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: make it three? You're already gonna interview ten plus people anyway,

635
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: might as well interview a bunch of different people from

636
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of different backgrounds. I also think the hiring

637
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 1: practices are very cyclical. You know, it's like anything, things

638
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: change up and down, like the stock market. Right now.

639
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Speaker 1: Offensive coaches are really involved in vogue. Right, have a

640
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: guy that's skinny, chisels jawline white, offensive coach that's feel

641
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: felt like everyone they got hired the last couple of years.

642
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be the case forever. You know why.

643
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: A lot of those guys are gonna fail. Cliff Kingsbury

644
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: probably gonna fail. Never won more more than seven games

645
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: in his life, lafleur, Are we sure he's any good?

646
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: I know they won thirteen games. Offense was terrible. It

647
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: could be a disaster with Roger's love like he could

648
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: be out of a job. Some of these guys like

649
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: are just gonna be out of a job, And you

650
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: know what's gonna go. I don't want to hire a

651
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: young offensive guy. Maybe I'll hire an older defensive guy.

652
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: So the guys that haven't been getting chances the last

653
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: several years, I think it could dramatically change because, like anything,

654
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: nothing ever stays the same in the NFL. Now, you

655
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: would say the rules, and I've said this before, kind

656
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: of dictate the defense. Is that a huge disadvantage And

657
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: is that really gonna change? Are we gonna go back

658
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: in like five or six years and be like, you

659
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: know what, the Ronnie Lott style of just taking guy's

660
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: head off and Dick but Kiss and nich Key were

661
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: playing like that again, probably not. So offense is more

662
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: than likely going to be in vogue. And that's why

663
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: they're pushing to have quarterback coaches and centivized you know,

664
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Speaker 1: fourth or fifth round pick. If you have a quarterback

665
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: coach that's a minority for over a year. I just

666
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: don't know how you force that, Like, what if you

667
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: don't have a guy on staff and you want to

668
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: elevate your quality control guy and he just doesn't fit

669
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: that Bill or whatever. Right, he's more of an offensive

670
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: line coach or a wide receiver coach. Now again, I'm

671
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: not a coach. I think they're on the right path here.

672
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: I just the draft pick compensation. I just I really

673
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: don't think owners are gonna care that that one to

674
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: me looks better on paper. And what if you're like

675
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: the Steelers and you go seven and nine and Mike

676
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: tom and your head coach and you've always done it

677
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: the right way. Hell, the rules named after you, and

678
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: some team hires a guy, you know, a head coach

679
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: that is black. They could just jump you. You're like,

680
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: we're not screwing around? Are what are we doing? Or

681
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: what if you're the Redskins you got Ron Rivera and

682
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: you just get jumped in the process because some other team.

683
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of It looks good

684
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: on paper, and I know it went to kind of

685
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: viral on Twitter, but I don't know if it works

686
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: great in practice. Okay, let's uh, let's do the Middlecoff

687
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram d MS

688
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: wide open fire up in leave a question. This is

689
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: part of your d MS that you fly through as

690
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: fast as humanly possible to get to the actual question,

691
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: so I'll keep it brief. I'm a big fan of

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00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: the podcast. Keep up the good work, appreciate it. Okay,

693
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: my question is about the a f C South. Admittedly

694
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm a Titans fan. I don't fully understand around the

695
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: hype around the Colts and Chris Ballard as the clear

696
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: favorite to win the division according to most of the media.

697
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: Ballard and Wright gets so much praise, and I think

698
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: they're really good at what they do, but it seems

699
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: so overblown comparatively speaking. Meanwhile, the same people are calling

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00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: last year a fluke of the Titans, despite retaining Slash,

701
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: upgrading nearly everybody, and having a great draft. Look the

702
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Chris Ballard luck ten and six,

703
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard without luck eleven and twenty one. John Robinson

704
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: with Mariotta Castle Gabert and Taniel eight. Well, John Robinson

705
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: has been on this, uh this podcast, friend of the show,

706
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: friend of mine. I'm a big John Robinson guy. I

707
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: like John Robinson, The Titans love Rabel. Remind me again

708
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: why Rivers, who is thirty five been forty five himself

709
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: over the last forty five years, is suddenly going to

710
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: turn the Colts around into a ten win team. You're

711
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: making sense. These are fair arguments. Also, Tanney Hill doesn't

712
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: deserve the reputation he gets as the washed up dolphin

713
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: quarterback that hands the ball to Henry. Everybody is somehow

714
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: missing that he came in last year and was one

715
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks bistically all year. He didn't go

716
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl and win Comeback Player of the

717
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: Year for nothing. He was. Now, maybe this was a

718
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: fluke and this year he'll take a step back, But

719
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: until he does, he's gotten so much disrespect. So it's

720
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: not really a question, just a statement. That was a

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00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: pretty good little rant right there. I I can't necessarily

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00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: disagree that the Titans are gonna be good this year.

723
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: Vrabel is a big time coach. He's basically like the

724
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVeigh of defensive coaches. A little

725
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: different because he played in the league. But you know,

726
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: a guy in his early mid forties, complete badass. Uh

727
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: went to the playoffs last year multiple I mean, he

728
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: went into Foxboro, ended Brady's career in New England, ended it,

729
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: put a stake in it, went to the league m

730
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: v P hit him directly in the teeth and kicked

731
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh's ass and then like he ran into a

732
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: bus aw and Andy in the chiefs. It was up

733
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: ten nothing. Their team's good, that they are going to

734
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: be good now. The Colts to me are a great

735
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: wild card. I think they had a good draft Buckner

736
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: Pittman and Jonathan Taylor. If you can keep t Y healthy,

737
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: their offensive lines really good, their defense is solid. You're right,

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Speaker 1: the Rivers thing, there's a chance he shot right there.

739
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: There's a chance. I'll use a golf analogy. If you're

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00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: just like a single digit handicap, Let's say you're like

741
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: a seven. That means on any given day, and let's

742
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: say you haven't it's been corony. You haven't played that much.

743
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: Like you might go out and shoot seventy eight, but

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00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: you could easily. And I know I can shoot like

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00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: nine two. And there's a decent chance, you know, if

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00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: Rivers shoots in the seventies, the golf equivalent, the Colts

747
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: have a shot. But there is a very decent chance.

748
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Speaker 1: When the when the season end, you look at the scorecard,

749
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: it's his and there are four triples, two doubles and

750
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: a bunch of out of bounds and no bodies that

751
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: that is very possible. The guy I watched last year,

752
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: and I watched way too much Charge of Football was terrible.

753
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: He he was not very good. He was he was bad.

754
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: He just plainly was not good. So they're betting on

755
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: him coming back. And I think sometimes when you use

756
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: your connection to a player, and that's what Frank and

757
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: I forget that their offensive coordinator, how to say his name,

758
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: younger guy nick something. They know him really well. And

759
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: I think sometimes like that, it's like standing up for

760
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: your kid when he gets in trouble. It's like, you know,

761
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: you might be a little too emotionally close to this

762
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: because the tape spoke for itself. It was bad. Now,

763
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: if he can somehow just be decent, maybe they'd be okay.

764
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: But I think it's very fair to say that, you guys,

765
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Speaker 1: And I think Bill O'Brien would say, what now, they

766
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: lost Hopkins. I mean they lost their best player. Now,

767
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: I guess their most important players the quarterback. But DeAndre

768
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: has been their best player in the last two years.

769
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: J J is a year older. They're depending on a

770
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: lot of injured guys. Yeah, I mean, if you told

771
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: me the Titans win the division, like I'm not. I'm

772
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: not gonna argue with you. I think the Broncos are

773
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a surprise playoff team in two thousand and twenty,

774
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: and I think there's a real chance that Drew Lock

775
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: has a better season than Baker Mayfield. What are your

776
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: thoughts about Denver and Locke and how they might stack

777
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: up against playoff teams like the Browns. Well, I was

778
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: actually I was driving home. I was in the car

779
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: the other day and on a decent on like an

780
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: hour drive, and I flipped on WOJS podcast and he

781
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: had on Stefanski and his dad. His dad's like an

782
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: NBA exec. That's why he was on a woach. But

783
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: Kevin the new coach of the Browns, is on and

784
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: he's really impressive. I know some people obviously that are

785
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: you know in Philly, that know them, and they really

786
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: like him. But his first time head coach has only

787
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: been a coordinator for one year. The Browns roster top

788
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: to bottom is better than the Broncos now. I like Fanjiel,

789
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: I know Fangio can coach and last you're despite a

790
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: crazy awful start with Flacco playing like a total stiff.

791
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: They still ended up seven and nine, and Drew Lock

792
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: showed a lot of like promise towards the end of

793
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: the season. They add Melvin Gordon, They added Pat Schrmer

794
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: to be their offensive coordinator. You've got Melvin Gordon and

795
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay, so you're running game is really good. You

796
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: add Jerry Judy in the first round to go with

797
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: Noah fan last year in the first round, to go

798
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: with kJ Hamdler and Sutton. Like. They got some dudes

799
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: on offense. You know, Vic Fangio is arguably the best

800
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator in the league. You got Bradley Chubb coming

801
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: back off the a c L to go along with

802
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: Von Miller. Still got a little something left. They got

803
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: the really good safety. Uh yeah, I mean the great

804
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: part about Vic Fangio's defense is one of the reasons

805
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: they could let Chris Harris leave is they don't need

806
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: top corners. When Vic was kicking everyone's ass in uh

807
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: in San Francisco, the corners were like Carlos Rogers and

808
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: Chris Culiver. Got to Chicago, they's had randoms uh first

809
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: one to say three and I has become a go

810
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: to pod during the lockdown appreciate it. I was listening

811
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Speaker 1: to you a couple of weeks back when you predicted

812
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: that Less need by not be as good as a

813
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: RAMS GM, and thinking about it, I tend to agree,

814
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: especially if they balls up. If they balls up the

815
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Speaker 1: Ramsey deal, blow up the Ramsey deal, if he has moved,

816
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: if he moves on, who could you see replacing him?

817
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: I guess Less could the Rams throw a big money

818
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 1: at someone like Howie Roseman love to hear your thoughts.

819
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: I would say, well, how he's under contract? How we

820
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how much money he makes,

821
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Speaker 1: but he's the boss of the Philadelphia Eagles. Would you

822
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: rather be the boss of the l A Rams? I

823
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: think what happens, depending on how the season goes, McVey

824
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: would get a lot more juice, and McVeigh would basically

825
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: pick a partner kind of like Kyle Shanahan did with

826
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Speaker 1: John Lynch or Pete Carroll you know, did with John Schneider,

827
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: or kind of like Andy and Beach, Like he'd want

828
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Speaker 1: his own guy. I don't know who his quote unquote

829
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: guy is, but that would be my guess. If it

830
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: happens the problem with the Ramsey trade. And I was

831
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: told this by someone in the NFL when they traded

832
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: for him. If I'm gonna trade a lot for a player,

833
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: I signed him that day. If I'm trading multiple ones,

834
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: just like Ryan Pace did, I signed you the day

835
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: I trade for you. Because it just makes everything much

836
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: easier because in a couple of years, the contracts not

837
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: as crazy. Well, Ramsey's big deal, I was told it's

838
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: like he told him, Yeah, you don't need to sign

839
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: me right away. He's kind of like Darrell Reevas. He

840
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: wanted to get to the end of his contract so

841
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: he could totally break the bank. Well, here's the problem.

842
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: Goff already broke the bank. Aaron Donald broke the bank,

843
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: and Ramsey who knows how much he'd cost. It might

844
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: not be quite Aaron Donald's eighties seven million, but it

845
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be fifty. It's gonna be like, so you're

846
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: gonna have three guys guaranteed money, you know, combined like

847
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: two million dollars for a couple of years. It would

848
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: just be a little complicated. I just I just don't

849
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: think lesson he knows what he's doing. I don't know,

850
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: like have some name of some guy, because I don't

851
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: know who Sean McVeigh knows or likes, but I I

852
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: think it would be someone he wanted. I'm wondering if

853
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: you think the Chargers would work and if they moved

854
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: to Salt Lake City, like you mentioned the air disaster

855
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: in l A and Salt Lake geographically would be a

856
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: fit given the rest of the division is located. Don't

857
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 1: totally hate that idea. Let me google. Obviously, you guys

858
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: got an NBA team has a fervor fan base. Utah

859
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: is a big deal Utah football. That is Salt Lake

860
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: City population because that's a big thing for the NFL,

861
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: you guys, population two thousand. I just I don't know

862
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: if there's enough people there, especially with Vegas being relatively

863
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: close and then already having an NFL team. I like

864
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: where your heads at, and I like the idea. I

865
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: just I don't know if they would give into that,

866
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, like for example, Sacramentos got like four d

867
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: fifty people. I just I don't think it's big enough.

868
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: Do you think Blake Martinez and James Bradberry was a

869
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: better fit for the New York Giants over Corey Littleton

870
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: and Byron Jones Or was it about the money? Well,

871
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: I think Littleton is a better player than Blake Martinez,

872
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: though I don't. I think Blake Martinez get shipped on

873
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: by the media. He's not a terrible player, He's a

874
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: solid starter. I would take Littleton just because he's a

875
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: damn good cover guy. Now, Byron Jones a better player

876
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: than James Bradberry, given that they gave Byron Jones forty

877
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed and Bradberry got like fifteen million dollars

878
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: a year. The money factors in. I think the Giants

879
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: would have rather had Byron Jones. He just costs too

880
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: much money. So yeah, I don't love Blake Martinez and

881
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: James Bradberry over. I would rather have a little Tin

882
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: and Byron Jones. So I think it was just simply, yeah,

883
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: it was about the money. I'm wondering about. Your thoughts

884
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: are on the Wisconsin Badgers. I personally believe the program

885
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: is held back by Barry alvare Edge, who who hires

886
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: close minded coaches who continue his legacy of running the

887
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: ball on first a second down. We have such bad

888
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that we can't get anything going against good teams,

889
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: or we get crappy programs that just put up nine

890
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: in the box and still beat us. I'm tired of

891
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: going to rose Balls and looking like clowns. Alvarez is

892
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: a drunk bastard. Barry's a legend. But I think that

893
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: their programs are really, really high level. You know, they're

894
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: not getting five star guys, yet every year they're competing

895
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: to go to Rose Bowls. Were in the mix and

896
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,479
Speaker 1: in the conference championship game against Ohio State and even

897
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: last year, like they're just not gonna get the athletes

898
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: on the whole of the house. State's gonna get. But

899
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: they beat the crap out of Michigan. I remember watching

900
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: that game. Wasn't it twenty one or nothing? At half?

901
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: It was like, hey, hardball, you don't belong on the

902
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 1: same field as us. Chris a good coach, Jim Leonard

903
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: is a badass. The defensive coordinator, I'm with you. Was

904
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: it was it last year that they had the left

905
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: handed quarterback. They could throw like twenty yards like that.

906
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: That's a joke like that. This is Wisconsin. You run

907
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: a pro style offense. You should get a guy that

908
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: is a borderline NFL player. The left handed guy. I'm

909
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: sure he's a nice kid, but gott he was a

910
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: bad quarterback, Like, you can't roll that out now. I'm

911
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: pretty sure I heard like Boomer Siason. I don't know

912
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: where I heard this, but didn't They sign like a

913
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: five star kid from New Jersey last year, so I'd

914
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 1: imagine he's gonna be the starter. Um, But losing Jonathan Taylor,

915
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's a big blow. But the one thing

916
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: they do better than anyone is produced running backs. But

917
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: if they can get more explosive on offense as a

918
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: passing game, They've always has had the defense. When I

919
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: was a g A at Fresno State, they had like

920
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: what j J. Watt? They had this other defensive end

921
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: to was swite. I remember them coming out there. I

922
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: think Joe Thomas was on They were so big. Maybe

923
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas wasn't on the team, but they had some

924
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: other sweet offensive lineman. I love the program. There seems

925
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: to be a huge disconnect from the national media and

926
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: local media when it comes to the Steelers. What's your

927
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: take on listening to Cowards of the World and comparing

928
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: it to what the twenty five year old beat writer

929
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: says also the Steelers, Well, I don't, I honestly don't.

930
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 1: What What's Collins take on the Steelers or the twenty

931
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: five year old beat. I don't know what they're and

932
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: I know Colin has been critical of Tomlin over the years,

933
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: but I don't think he thinks they suck or anything.

934
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: Does he? Also, the Steelers are absolutely loaded on defense,

935
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: and Colburt and Tomlin have doubled down on what they

936
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: think of deep Big Ben will be ready. Are they

937
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: being slept on a little too much? If Ben ends

938
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: up being healthy? Well? Ben tweeted out this video, very humble,

939
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: of him on a private jet flying somewhere to go

940
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: throw to Juju and James Conner and all the guys,

941
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: and he looked, I mean just throwing the ball pretty well,

942
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: which is saying something right, because he had Tommy John

943
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: his shoulder fell off. He is thirty eight years old,

944
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: and he's a he's a weather thirty eight. Like Drew

945
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: Brees and Tom Brady at thirty eight and Ben at

946
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: thirty eight. You could say that Ben is like more

947
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: like a forty seven year old. We all have that

948
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: friend who's like, you know, I'm in my mid thirties.

949
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: I got I got some friends who looked fantastic, You're like, God,

950
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: I guy could pass for twenty seven. And you just

951
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: got some friends that just look terrible. They're like, is

952
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: that guy forty six? And to me Ben is one

953
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: of those. Now Ben is you know, he's had a

954
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: lot of sick says he can play in big games. Uh,

955
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: their team, their defense is really good. Mike Tomins never

956
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: had a losing season. If Ben is just I would say,

957
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, a seven out of ten next year, why

958
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: should they win eight? Nate with Duck Hodges and Mason Rudolph.

959
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: So if Ben can give him sixteen games, which I

960
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: think I saw a stat see the three or four

961
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: of the last ten years you've play sixteen games. The

962
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: reality of Ben just doesn't play sixteen games. He gets

963
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: hurt a lot. He can't move, unlike Rivers right or

964
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: Eli or one of those guys that can't move. Ben,

965
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: because when he was younger could kind of move. I

966
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: mean no, he could move kind of thinks he can

967
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: move still. So I think he gets in these just

968
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: precarious situations and that's why he ends up getting hurt.

969
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: Guys fall on him, Guys roll on him. Ben's just

970
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: a trip man. There was a Raider game a couple

971
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: of years ago where Roethlisberger gets hurt at halftime they're

972
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: killing the Raiders. It's like nineteen to nothing. It's hurt

973
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half. Sits out the

974
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: entire second half. The Raiders then take the lead late

975
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 1: in the game, then puts back on his helmet, comes

976
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: back in the game. Like Ben, if you could come

977
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: back in the game, either come back in the game.

978
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: He literally waited till they were down, like Captain Hero.

979
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: It came back in the game. And don't get me wrong,

980
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm making fun of Ben. I have nothing but respect,

981
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer. I just it's just hard

982
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: for me to trust him staying healthy. Just found your

983
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: podcast the other day. Been loving it. Great insight, no bullshit,

984
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: speaking your mind, salute, no question there. I actually knew

985
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: when I started reading it. Just wanted to read a

986
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: little compliment. How do you feel about the Ravens off

987
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: season and what are your expectations for the season. Yeah,

988
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: I mean I I've been saying the same thing about

989
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: the Ravens for the last six months, that their teams stacked.

990
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna be a double digit win team. They're absolutely loaded.

991
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: I mean, we know their coach is good, we know

992
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: there are a whole operations good. They're strictly and this

993
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: season gonna be judged on the playoffs. They're like the

994
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: Houston Rockets. No one gives a damn how many points

995
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: you score anymore in these regular season games or how

996
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: many teams you beat or how many threes you shoot?

997
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: Like can you make it out a second round? Can

998
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: you win a playoff game? For the Rockets? Can you

999
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: win a playoff series? The matters if you're the Ravens,

1000
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: Like can you when you're at seven eight point favorite

1001
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 1: against Tennessee Titans in January? Can you win the game?

1002
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: Like when you're playing the Broncos in the first round

1003
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: of the playoff? Can you beat him? Or we're gonna

1004
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: be one and done three straight years? Because that's reminds

1005
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: me of Russell Westbrook. Kevin Durant left three straight years

1006
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: one and done. Why do you think so many people

1007
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: are unsure about Justin Herbert. I've been going back and

1008
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: comparing highlights of him and Trevor Lawrence, and herbert highlights

1009
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: actually look better. I understand it's hard to get a

1010
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 1: clear picture from the highlight reels, but most of lawrence

1011
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: highlights are jump balls to Higgins, and a lot of them,

1012
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: Higgins has to slow down and wait for the ball.

1013
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: Herberts highlights to me look like NFL lover accuracy. Yeah,

1014
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: I think it's the the offense that he runs there

1015
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: war moments when calls. If you watch him play, and

1016
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of Oregon football this year, balls

1017
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 1: do He misses some wide open guys, but he also

1018
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: makes plays. I think he kind of got this knock

1019
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: that he was kind of robotic and like when you

1020
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: watch TA Now. Granted he's got Jerry Rice, Randy Moss,

1021
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: Chris Carter and uh and Sean Jackson out there, but

1022
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: he'll go through his reads at like Tom Brady Peyton

1023
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: Manning level speed, fly across the field one, two to three,

1024
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: and then back across the It's incredible. Joe Burrows a

1025
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: lot like that too, Herbert. You don't really see him

1026
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: just firing all over the field. He's, I do agree,

1027
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: is a little robotic, but he's very talented. And I

1028
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: saw two guys, I mean, we all have the last

1029
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: five or six years come out that we're kind of

1030
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: raw elite talents in Carson Winston, Josh Allen like it works.

1031
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: So the Chargers have no excuse like you got this

1032
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: raw talent. You got a guy six four or six

1033
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: five who has been pretty accurate in college. I think

1034
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: he's average, like he's been a four year starter. He's

1035
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: got a huge arm, and he can move on a

1036
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: team was just big time weapons. I think Herbert should

1037
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: be good next year. I mean, they got Mike Williams,

1038
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, Eckler, Hunter Henry what else you need? Vincent

1039
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: Jackson and lt Why are people predicting the Raiders to

1040
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: finish third, possibly fourth in the a f C West.

1041
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: I get it, their defense wasn't trocious last year. I

1042
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: mean that's probably a big reason, but we upgraded our

1043
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: defense with the addition of Littleton Kwaikowski, Mukama, Damarious Randall,

1044
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: and John abram Is coming back from injury. Also, why

1045
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: do you and the various other not credit Max Crosby.

1046
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: The dude had ten sacks as a rookie last year

1047
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: on a terrible defense, and he didn't start for a

1048
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: few games. Show the man some love, well four and

1049
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: a half for five of those. I think I think

1050
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: he racked up about six of the ten against the

1051
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: Chargers back up in the Bengals. I like Max a

1052
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: good player, but sometimes sacks And I learned this scouting

1053
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: college guys are not all equal. Getting a sack on

1054
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: Trent Williams or Jason Peters or you know, Mitchell Schwartz

1055
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: is not the same of beating the crap out of

1056
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: the Chargers backup left tackle. It's just it's just not

1057
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: or or an unblocked play. The guy's good, he plays hard.

1058
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: He should be a very good starter in the league

1059
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: for a while. Is he gonna make Pro Bowls? I

1060
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe he will. Maybe he's like Jared Allen.

1061
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: Maybe that's his camp. He can become Jared Allen. He's

1062
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: a good player. The defense terrible, and I'm not sure

1063
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinators any good. But offensively, they got a

1064
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: lot of weapons. Now you got Rugs, you got Waller,

1065
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: you got Jacobs, you got the two dudes they drafted,

1066
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: but about in the kind of do it all dude

1067
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: from Kentucky edwards from South Carolina. They signed Tyrolle Williams

1068
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: last year. They got a good offensive line. Their offensive

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00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: score points. Now, Jonathan Abrahm, like I know, he's the

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00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: first round pick. He played a half and his defining

1071
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: skill is kind of hitting people, which is the reason

1072
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: he tore his shoulder, Like you can't. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: play like Ronnie Lott in two thousand twenty now Jonathan

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00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: Abram if it was seven, I'd be like, you know what,

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00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna be one of the baddest m efforts in

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00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: the league. But you can't. Really He's like Cam Chancer.

1077
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: I don't know how he plays, so I'm not saying

1078
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: he can't be good, but he's gonna have to be

1079
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 1: a really good cover guy and be like, you don't

1080
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: get you're not allowed to knock people out anymore. If

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Speaker 1: they were, I'd be like, I want Jonathan Abram on

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00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: my team. You just need to be there's a balance

1083
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: to it, you know, like you kind of gotta cover

1084
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: now you can still hit. I think the Niners defensive

1085
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: backs were a good example of that, Like Jimmy Ward.

1086
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: Jimmy's a versatile piece because he can cover. Jonathan's gotta

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00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: be able to cover, especially in a division with Hunter, Henry,

1088
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, Noah Fant, They're gonna need him to cover

1089
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: the tight ends. And I'm with you, Like the the

1090
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: f C West could have, I mean the Chiefs are

1091
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: gonna be dominant, but the Chargers in Denver have probably

1092
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: better rosters than you. They have way more Pro Bowl

1093
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: players in the Raiders. Now, if Derek can be like

1094
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen again, you guys could win nine

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00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: or ten games. But it's just hard for me to

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00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 1: I wouldn't pick you to win nine or ten games,

1097
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: though I wouldn't be shocked if you did. The division

1098
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: is really good. I think when the dust settles, the

1099
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: a f C West could be the best division of football.

1100
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: All four teams. The Chiefs are going to the playoffs,

1101
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me if the other if one or

1102
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: two of the other three teams did, especially in the

1103
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: seven team playoff format. I think the a f C

1104
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: or NFC NFC West probably the best on paper, given

1105
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: you got the Niner Seattle, the Rams went nine and seven,

1106
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: and then just all the people that Cardinals added, Hey John,

1107
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: big fan of three and out, also a big produce fan.

1108
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: Coming off an injury riddled season without Randall More and

1109
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: playing with a four string true freshman quarterback, how do

1110
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: you see them playing this season? Having arstead of wide

1111
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: receiver corps of randomore David Bell and Malik Carr. What

1112
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: do you see their season turning out to be? Full disclosure,

1113
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: I don't know that much about produe football. Let me

1114
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: bring up their schedule. The thing I would first say

1115
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: is kind of like playing in the a f C

1116
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: or NFC West. They play in the Big Ten, and

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00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: I think the last couple of years it's easily been,

1118
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, the best conference in football after the SEC.

1119
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean last year it was by a mile right, Um,

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00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: last year they went three and six. So this upcoming

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00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: season at Nebraska, I'll give you a win Memphis, they

1122
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: were good last year. Coach went to Florida State home

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00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: home opener. Well, the game is at Nebraska, but I'll

1124
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: still give you a win. First Memphis, that's a sneaky game.

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Speaker 1: Then you get air Force, who I don't know, runs

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00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: triple options. That's not easy. At BC win Rutgers, win

1127
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: at Illinois, win at Michigan, probably an l Northwestern. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a win there at Minnesota. Man that's

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00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: p J. Flack has a program rolling Wisconsin Iowa. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I said, I think you guys could win six seven

1131
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: games after going whatever, you would you win three and

1132
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: six this year? Question for the pod from a twenty

1133
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: two year old Pats fan on Howard Stern. Tom Brady

1134
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: openly admitted that he would refuse to throw to guys

1135
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: he didn't fully trust. New England is a notorious tough

1136
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: environment for rookies, and rookie wide receivers always seemed to

1137
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: struggle gaining Tom's trust. Now with Brady out of New

1138
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: England and stid him in, do you think a second

1139
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: year guy like Nickiel, Harry and Jacobe Myers could have

1140
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: serious improvement now they have a quarterback more willing to

1141
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: throw to them. For sure. I would imagine being a

1142
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: twenty two year old rookie last year for those two guys,

1143
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: but especially Nikiel who got hurt and then came back

1144
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 1: and it did not go well. You are playing with

1145
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, not like two thousand seven Tom Brady, not

1146
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen Tom Brady, two thousand nineteen Tom Brady

1147
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: six rings the the goat in pen in sharpie like

1148
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: it's not even an argument, and the great it's forty

1149
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: two years old, so you're twenty two. He's got you

1150
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: by twenty years. He's not throwing you the ball. The

1151
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: offense is really complicated you got McDaniels yelling at you,

1152
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: you got Belichick in your ass, and you've got Tom

1153
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: just staring you down, mean mugging, even though he's a

1154
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: good teammate, you know what I mean, like as a team,

1155
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: as a as an off offensive player, trying to help,

1156
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, force you to get better. It's just an

1157
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: intimidating situation. Now you got Jared Stidham, if you're nakil,

1158
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: Harry shod him. You know, as he's learning everything can

1159
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: take a little heat off you. You got Belichick and

1160
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels up his ass, and you can just run

1161
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: routes and just try to get open and make some plays.

1162
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: But stid him, in theory, given that he's replacing Tom,

1163
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: is gonna take the majority of the heat just because

1164
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna need him to understand what's going on. So

1165
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: there's no excuse for Myers and Nikkil to not know

1166
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: what's going on. They've been in the offensive year, so

1167
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: stid him. But the pressure of being a quarterback is

1168
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: just immense. Right, They're gonna be on a about being

1169
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: loud in the huddle, being on guys, just it's gonna

1170
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: be a year long thing of them riding him, and

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01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's good, Patriots could be competitive. If

1172
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Speaker 1: he's bad, I mean they're probably screwed. I appreciate everyone listening.

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Speaker 1: If I didn't get to your question, I will try

1174
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: to get to it next week or not next week,

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01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: this Friday, because we do two podcasts a week, even

1176
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Speaker 1: in Quarantine and the Corona. Don't worry. Keep content pumping.

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Speaker 1: It's what we do. Holler at your boy, have a

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Speaker 1: good week, see you later, Tell your friends, and leave

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Speaker 1: a review.