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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory.

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Speaker 1: M Chandler roam along with Tyler Stafford and Tyler. We

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Speaker 1: have some big things to talk about today. Ryan Gusto

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Speaker 1: has a new change up group. Would you like to hear?

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Speaker 1: Would you like to hear thirty five minutes about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What's what grip are we working with?

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Speaker 1: Apparently it's a He modeled it off the Pedro Martinez

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Speaker 1: grip and he had been he had been struggling against

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Speaker 1: left handed hitters. Pitching coach Josh Miller encouraged him to

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Speaker 1: slow the change up down a little bit because it

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Speaker 1: was too similar to his four seamer and it's helped

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Speaker 1: him with against lefties a lot. You know. I think

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Speaker 1: that's the biggest news to come out of the Astros

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Speaker 1: today is at Ryan Gusto went six innings of one

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Speaker 1: run ball against James Woods, C. J Abrams and eight

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Speaker 1: other dudes for the Washington Nationals and the Astros won

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Speaker 1: a game. So what thoughts do you have about Ryan

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Speaker 1: Gusto changing his change up group?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: I mean, first off, cool, I love grips, A big,

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Speaker 3: big fan of that. At some point I'm gonna talk

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Speaker 3: to Colton Gordon and his eighty different change up grips

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Speaker 3: that he's worked through this year. One hundred pitches is

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Speaker 3: pretty impressive for a guy that keeps going in and

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Speaker 3: out of the rotation. Definitely giving me staff Ace Brad

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Speaker 3: Peacock vibes of a guy that can, you know, get

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Speaker 3: you one inning one night, and then if you need

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Speaker 3: a spot start or whatever, you can go five and

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Speaker 3: two third, six innings. Whatever you went today. One hundred pitches,

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Speaker 3: Like that's no joke, Like that's hard to do. That's

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Speaker 3: impressive that he is able to be both a reliever

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Speaker 3: and a starter in a season that's difficult.

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Speaker 1: It's impressive that I watched any actual innings of that

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Speaker 1: baseball game today. This bit has gone on for a

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Speaker 1: minute and forty five seconds too long.

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Speaker 3: Altuve got robbed, didn't get to bat in the in

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Speaker 3: the eighth. That was his five hit game. He was

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Speaker 3: finally going to catch Josh Reddick, but alas Josh til Nick, Kurtz,

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Speaker 3: Jeremy Painel still without a five hit game.

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Speaker 1: That is incredible. It's like one of so weird rolling stats.

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Speaker 1: He has the most four hit games of any active players.

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Speaker 1: Today was forty one forty first four hit.

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Speaker 3: Game stupid that has so many hits.

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Speaker 1: That's that's insane. No, we're not going to talk about

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Speaker 1: anything that happened on the field today because it is

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Speaker 1: just to set the scene because things are going to

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Speaker 1: be changing a lot in the next twenty three hours. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It is currently five forty one pm Central Time on

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Speaker 1: July thirtieth. The Astros have not made a deal. I

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Speaker 1: was told twenty minutes ago that nothing is imminent that

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Speaker 1: they are. They're still working, they're still going through things,

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Speaker 1: they're still grinding, but nothing is imminent. As always, these

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Speaker 1: things can change. That's why I wanted to be upfront

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Speaker 1: as you're listening to this. This is when we're recording

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Speaker 1: five now, five forty two on July thirtieth. But Tyler today,

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Speaker 1: we did get maybe a little bit of clarity on

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Speaker 1: where the Astros are looking and kind of the swings

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Speaker 1: are going to take. And I think the one that

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Speaker 1: is going to mesmerize and maybe be a polarizing topic

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Speaker 1: is they have engaged with the Minnesota Twins about the

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Speaker 1: possibility of reuniting with Carlo's Korea. It is something that

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Speaker 1: Bob Nightingale of USA Today reported this morning, Dan Hayes,

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Speaker 1: who covers the Minnesota Twins for the Athletic and myself

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Speaker 1: we collaborated on a story that is currently on the

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Speaker 1: Athletics website, and we can confirm that, yes, the Twins

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Speaker 1: and the Astros have discussed this. All the reporting that

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Speaker 1: done on the Minnesota side, and even what Carlos Korea

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Speaker 1: that this doesn't appear to be something that is serious.

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Speaker 1: Now again, I say that, and things can change very quickly.

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Speaker 1: Right now, five forty three pm on July thirtieth. I

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Speaker 1: do not think this is something that is likely to happen,

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Speaker 1: but Tyler, it's it's certainly it is something that should

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Speaker 1: be unsurprising to anyone that has followed a Jim Crane

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Speaker 1: run team during this golden era. They're going to take

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Speaker 1: big swings. They love reuniting with guys that they let

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's exciting to see those headlines. You know,

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Speaker 3: first thought is what is this contract again? So you

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Speaker 3: of that, because there's a lot of vesting in there,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not from the Pacific Northwest, so i am

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Speaker 3: not familiar with vests. Can you explain his contract?

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Speaker 1: Sure? So essentially, Carlos Korea is guaranteed ninety six million dollars.

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Speaker 1: His contract is guaranteed through the twenty twenty eight season,

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Speaker 1: so if applicable, if the Astros were to acquire him,

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Speaker 1: there's no getting out of it. From now through twenty

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Speaker 1: which that gets into Those can be gotten out of

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Speaker 1: if you will. But for right now, for the contract

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Speaker 1: that Carl's Korea is on, he has owed ninety six

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Speaker 1: million dollars across the next three years. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of things need to be talked about in terms

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Speaker 1: envision a reality where Jim Crane takes on that entire

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Speaker 1: sum of money. The Twins are going to have to

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Speaker 1: pay some of, if not the majority of that down.

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Speaker 1: That is part of our reporting that suggests that this

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Speaker 1: is not serious, This is not close or imminent is

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Speaker 1: because the two sides are very far apart in terms

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Speaker 1: much the Astros want to pay, and whether that gap

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Speaker 1: is closable is a real mystery. I'm not sure so

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Speaker 1: that that's one part of it is the money. The

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Speaker 1: other part of it is I just told you, Carlos

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Speaker 1: is guaranteed. Like they can't get out of the contract.

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Speaker 1: You have a third basement in Estock Paradus, who, by

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Speaker 1: the way, an aside, real quick, the fact that this

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Speaker 1: is even being talked about, Estock Paradus is not coming back.

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Speaker 1: He's gone, like, I mean, let's you, let's all, let's

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Speaker 1: all use our common sense here. This has been the

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Speaker 1: longest second opinion you've ever heard of in your life.

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Speaker 1: The second opinion is magically going to be had after

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Speaker 1: the trade deadline is over. That's It's amazing how that works.

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Speaker 1: So let's first say that Estock Parades not playing again

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Speaker 1: this season. I'd be stunned if he plays again this season.

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Speaker 1: So they would be acquiring Carlos Carrea to play third

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Speaker 1: base for this team this season, which Carlos Carea is

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Speaker 1: one of the best defensive infielders I've ever seen. I

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Speaker 1: play every day. The problem is he'socked. Paradus is under

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Speaker 1: sock Paradas to first base, you can't do that. Jeremy

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Speaker 1: Panna is also under team control through the next two years,

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Speaker 1: so if they do this, you do have to wonder, like,

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Speaker 1: where does carl like this season? It's five, he's plugging

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Speaker 1: play playing at third base. Where does he play after

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Speaker 1: this season? Because I mean, sure you could dangle Eastock

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Speaker 1: Paradus in trades the next winner, but he's fit in

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Speaker 1: that's And he's cost control too, he's still in arbitration.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's the way you go. Christian Walker.

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Speaker 1: You could try to find somebody to take on that contract,

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Speaker 1: but the way he has performed, I'm not sure that

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Speaker 1: that's viable. Jeremy Pania is the best, has been the

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Speaker 1: best player on your team all year. Not sure. So

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Speaker 1: you get my point here. There's no real place for

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Speaker 1: Carlo's Korea on the twenty twenty six Astros, But the

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Speaker 1: so he's got a place on that team. Before anybody

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Speaker 1: talks about estock paratus at second base, we talked about

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Speaker 1: this in spring training. I'll reiterate it now. There is

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Speaker 1: very little optimism from inside or outside the organization. From

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Speaker 1: think he would handle second base well at all. They

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Speaker 1: So that's that's the other thing is Carlos Korea does

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Speaker 1: not fit this team past this season. The third thing, Tyler,

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Speaker 1: I have all the respect in the world for Carlos Korea.

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Speaker 1: I think he is a hell of a player, a

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Speaker 1: And I understand why they're thinking about this. He has

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Speaker 1: a ninety three OPS plus. He's slugging three eighty six.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three, his last full season that he played

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Speaker 1: this year, was a below average hitter in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: That can't be forgotten either, that he's not the same

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Speaker 3: I mean, he played eighty six games last year and

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Speaker 3: out of one fifty one ops plus, So it's you know,

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Speaker 3: his actual batting average to sixty seven? This is a

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Speaker 3: The biggest difference if you look at his like you

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Speaker 3: quite a bit. It's the second lowest of his career

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Speaker 3: you have. It's steadily line since twenty twenty one. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's nothing like jumps out concerning he's barreling up the

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Speaker 3: the the raw stuff I would say is is still there.

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Speaker 3: He's not. He's not whiffing any more than usual. You know, again,

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Speaker 3: the bat speed is there. It might just be kind

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Speaker 3: that's literally the worst of his career as a ninety

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Speaker 3: So first thought is, yeah, on the twenty twenty five Astros,

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Speaker 3: if you plugged in a really good defensive third baseman

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Speaker 3: far as making it work, I mean, again, we don't

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Speaker 3: think they're still a long ways off. But thinking over

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Speaker 1: One thing we didn't mention Tyler and I this is

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Speaker 1: Astros have scouted him pretty heavily. To me, Tyler, there's

428
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Speaker 1: a lot of parallels here to you sa Kakuci last year,

429
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Speaker 1: just in terms of this is a guy that is

430
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Speaker 1: maybe not performing to his career standards. You look at

431
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Speaker 1: the numbers and you're not excited about about it, but

432
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Speaker 1: you know that it's in there. You know that there

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Speaker 1: is nasty stuff in there. You know the underlying stuff

434
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Speaker 1: looks good. He's also a rental. He's also a guy that,

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Speaker 1: you know what, He's going to cost you a good bit,

436
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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but certainly not going to cost

437
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Speaker 1: you in terms of what maybe a controllable starting pitcher

438
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Speaker 1: would a guy with multiple years of control. What do

439
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Speaker 1: you think when you hear Dylan Cees and when you

440
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Speaker 1: look at him, what do you think about him as

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Speaker 1: a as a as a target for the Astras?

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Speaker 3: Perfect fit, perfect fit, somebody that is gone after this year.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've talked about the Astros have a ton

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Speaker 3: of young, controllable starters that are going to fill the

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Speaker 3: rotation next year. So you don't even necesscessarily want to

446
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Speaker 3: be bogged down with somebody that has a lot of control.

447
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Speaker 3: Plus you probably couldn't afford that player anyway. So this

448
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Speaker 3: is a guy that is underperforming. I mean he's I mean,

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Speaker 3: I hate to bring up a win loss record on

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Speaker 3: this year podcast, but he is three and ten four

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Speaker 3: seven nine era. Like you said, though, he is striking

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Speaker 3: out a ton of guys. He's striking out eleven point

453
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Speaker 3: six batters per nine this year. He struck out ten

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Speaker 3: point six last year and finished fourth in the cy

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Speaker 3: Young His walk rate isn't any higher than you know,

456
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Speaker 3: you would expect. He's just given up a little bit

457
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Speaker 3: more contact. But you know who's really good at taking

458
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Speaker 3: pictures with good stuff that are underperforming and making them

459
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Speaker 3: even better is the Houston Astros. I mean, you say Kakuchi.

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Speaker 3: Last year you brought up he had a ten point

461
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Speaker 3: one strike out for nine when he was traded to

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Speaker 3: the Astros. He finished the season over sixty innings with

463
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Speaker 3: eleven point four, which is a sizable jump over that

464
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Speaker 3: amount of time. I mean, Dylan sees the stuff is

465
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Speaker 3: nasty like. He mainly throws four seamers slider. He throws

466
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Speaker 3: a slider this year forty five percent of the time.

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Speaker 3: Would you like to take a guess, At forty five

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Speaker 3: percent of the time he throws a slider, what do

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Speaker 3: you think is with percentages on those sliders, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Going to go at least thirty six percent.

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Speaker 3: Forty two percent of the time, that's dumb. That's really

472
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Speaker 3: really good. Again, you know fastball has been good too. Again,

473
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Speaker 3: both of those pitches have been hit a little harder

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Speaker 3: this year. But again, looking at the numbers, there's there's

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Speaker 3: nothing that you would look at and be overly concerned.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's not like vlo is down or you

477
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Speaker 3: know this the spin rate or whatever. Spin rate stays

478
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Speaker 3: the same throughout. But again, the point is is that

479
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Speaker 3: there's nothing that you're looking at and just going like, oh,

480
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Speaker 3: this is a guy that's in decline. And honestly, even

481
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Speaker 3: even if you don't get cy young finisher Dylan Ceese

482
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Speaker 3: over the rest of the season, you get a guy

483
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Speaker 3: who is extremely durable. He has led the league in

484
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Speaker 3: starts four out of the last five years. He takes

485
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Speaker 3: the ball every fifth day. He goes out there and

486
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Speaker 3: can strike guys out. And again, in the playoffs, you

487
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Speaker 3: need luck and you need you know, one dominant game

488
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Speaker 3: can change the course of your playoffs. And if Dylan

489
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Speaker 3: Sees is coming out Game three and has one of

490
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Speaker 3: his good games where he can go six innings and

491
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Speaker 3: strike out twelve guys, which is not remotely out of

492
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Speaker 3: the realm of possibility for Dylan Sees like that is

493
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Speaker 3: a season altering performance that you are just not going

494
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Speaker 3: to get from many people in the big leagues, and

495
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Speaker 3: certainly not the guys that you currently have that would

496
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Speaker 3: take you know, your your third start and the rotation.

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Speaker 1: So I love it.

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Speaker 3: I mean that would be that would be a great

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Speaker 3: pickup for the Astros.

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Speaker 1: Since you brought up win loss record in the Year

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Speaker 1: of Our Lord twenty twenty five. There's a guy that's

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Speaker 1: one and eight and has a four five three e

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Speaker 1: r A. Dylan Dylan Cees is three and ten with

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Speaker 1: a four seven nine e r A. Nope, the guy

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Speaker 1: that's one and eight with a four five three e

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Speaker 1: r A. Jim Crane also loves him, loves telling people

507
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Speaker 1: that he knows this person. Does Justin Brooks Verlander interest you, Nope?

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Speaker 1: Love you?

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Speaker 3: Justin?

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Speaker 1: Okay, No, well he's available. He sure is.

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Speaker 3: Look he is forty two years old. It's just again,

512
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Speaker 3: it's there. Yeah, I mean, if you want to come

513
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Speaker 3: over for free, there's a rotation spot for him. Uh.

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Speaker 3: If you're asking me to choose between the two, I

515
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Speaker 3: would much rather have Dylan cease, although I kind of

516
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Speaker 3: like the ViBe's approach of just get Korea and Verlander

517
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Speaker 3: and see what happens.

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Speaker 1: You know, Juli's hanging out in Miami somewhere, and go

519
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Speaker 1: get Yuli.

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Speaker 3: You already got Hector nearis like, get the whole band

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Speaker 3: back together.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one Astros back together. Yeah, just don't invite the Braves.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you have to worry about that this year.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, you will. Well, you do have

525
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Speaker 1: a guy that worked for the twenty twenty one Braves

526
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Speaker 1: currently running your teams, so you would have that there.

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Speaker 1: I did mention that Ceas and Kakuchi have some parallels

528
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Speaker 1: and there are just with we talked about the underperformance

529
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Speaker 1: their rentals. They're things. The underlying stuff looks good. The

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Speaker 1: one major difference is the Toronto Blue Jays. When they

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Speaker 1: traded use Ka Kuchi last year to the Astros. They

532
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Speaker 1: were selling. They were not in position to make the playoffs.

533
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Speaker 1: They had punted on the ear. They were trying to

534
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Speaker 1: get prospects. They were trying to get what they could

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Speaker 1: for their expiring contracts. The Padres are in the playoffs

536
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Speaker 1: right now, like they have the third wild card spot

537
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Speaker 1: in the National League. AJ Preller, who is their president

538
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Speaker 1: of Baseball Operations, this is what he does, even when

539
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Speaker 1: they are in the playoffs, even when they have a

540
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Speaker 1: playoff spot, he can buy and sell at the same time,

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Speaker 1: this is a situation where the Padres aren't looking for prospects.

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Speaker 1: They're not looking for guys in the Dominican Summer League

543
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Speaker 1: or guys that can go to Double A. They're looking

544
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Speaker 1: for like major league ready, controllable talent that they can

545
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Speaker 1: put on their current playoff team to make it better.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of reporting. Dennis Lynn, who covers

547
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Speaker 1: the Padres for the Athletic for US, has reported that

548
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Speaker 1: they are very very They've been trying to acquire Jaron

549
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Speaker 1: Durand from the Red Sox for a very long time

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Speaker 1: and that's going to continue for the next twenty or

551
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Speaker 1: so hours. They need an outfielder they need. I believe

552
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Speaker 1: catching is something that they also need. Like you're not

553
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Speaker 1: giving the Padres prospects for Dylan Ce's, they want major

554
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Speaker 1: league ready talent. I don't know that the Astros have

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Speaker 1: anything that is major league ready enough to entice the

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Speaker 1: Padres for Dylancy. Maybe I should reward that I think

557
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: they do, but I think there are other teams that

558
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Speaker 1: may be more equipped to give them what they want

559
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Speaker 1: than the Astra. That is the big difference here is

560
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Speaker 1: that I know everyone lost their mind when they saw

561
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Speaker 1: the return last year to the Blue Jays, but it

562
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Speaker 1: was just prospects. This would be your trading off of

563
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Speaker 1: your major league roster with another contender and what And

564
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Speaker 1: I maybe I'm misreading the situation, Tyler. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that the Astros have enough AMMO for that.

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about? What about leadoff hitter Taylor

567
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: Tremmeelle a nice shiny tailor Tremmeelle for your outfield? I

568
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: don't think that's gonna get it done, probably not on

569
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Speaker 3: its own. I mean, if the Ashers want to get

570
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: real weird with it, they do have two catchers currently.

571
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Speaker 3: That's that's certainly a pot I mean, you don't want

572
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Speaker 3: to give up one of those guys for just Dylan Cees.

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Speaker 3: Uh did you see that play Victor Karantini made today?

574
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Speaker 3: At first that I did a backhanded pick. He's good.

575
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Speaker 1: I don't know why he's good. He shouldn't be.

576
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Speaker 3: I don't know why he's that good at first base,

577
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,719
Speaker 3: but he's really good. That's that's surprising. But you're right,

578
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: I mean that the Potters have holes in the outfield.

579
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Speaker 3: You know, you could see like a Chas McCormick, and

580
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: also like Jacob Melton or you know something like that

581
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: where it's but again, you're gonna throw up at if

582
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: you have to give one of those guys up.

583
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Speaker 1: But and I kind of you know, look, I kind

584
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Speaker 1: of laughed when we're in the previous segment we were

585
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Speaker 1: talking about you know, guys that could go in the

586
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: in the in the potential corea deal, like you're thinking about,

587
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: Oh like Chazz and Chas mcormick.

588
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: Those are those are money throw in.

589
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Speaker 1: Chas McCormick's not been a good player for two years now.

590
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: Like I mean, other teams know this, Like you're not,

591
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: Like you're not gonna sneak him in as like oh

592
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: like maybe maybe they won't read his baseball reference like

593
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: maybe they won't look at a savant page like no,

594
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: like he's not. If you are, you're gonna have to

595
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Speaker 1: trade good players to get know players.

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Speaker 3: Do you know who has a higher word than Dylan

597
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: Cees this year?

598
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: Who is that?

599
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Speaker 3: Taylor Trammel. So maybe watch your mouth because they're Astras

600
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Speaker 3: are actually giving up more talent this season if they

601
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Speaker 3: if they just did a one for one with Taylor Tramiel. Yeah,

602
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: I mean you're gonna have to give up. But you

603
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: you that's one of those moves that actually probably helps

604
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Speaker 3: the Astras if they get to give up one of

605
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 3: their five quad A outfielders that they have, and you know,

606
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Speaker 3: if that entices a team like that's a good fit.

607
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: So it works out that the Padres do kind of

608
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: need just a buy in the outfield in the same

609
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Speaker 3: way that we've been telling you know, we're over here

610
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Speaker 3: drooling over Willie Castro, who is again like the Taylor

611
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Speaker 3: Tremmeil of the I mean's he's a little better than that,

612
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Speaker 3: but he's not significantly. But my point is is like

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Speaker 3: even Willy Castro, let me pull it back up. Willie

614
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 3: Castro this year has a point six war again lower

615
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Speaker 3: than Taylor Tremil. So it's it's not like you're you're

616
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Speaker 3: trading for huge guys. So you know, it is a

617
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Speaker 3: person that could help the Padres as they are trying

618
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Speaker 3: to climb to that. But the Padres are also smart

619
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Speaker 3: and realize we would also like to have a Dylan

620
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Speaker 3: ces type in the playoffs because for the same reason

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Speaker 3: that I just said of yeah, he's been bad so far,

622
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Speaker 3: but what if he turns it on in the playoffs

623
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Speaker 3: and you get a guy that can strike out everybody.

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Speaker 3: I want to see Dylancy's go seven games against Aaron Judge,

625
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 3: you know, like I want two starts against Judge and

626
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 3: the Alcs with that slider fastball combo.

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Speaker 1: Be very fun.

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Speaker 3: But again, the padres are thinking the same way they are.

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Speaker 1: The funny thing about this whole pod has been that

655
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: I've just been like half listening to you and half

656
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: looking at my Twitter and text to make sure pod well.

657
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's every pod, but this one more specifically,

658
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: Like I've just been like going back and forth. Ryan

659
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: Helsley just got traded to the Mets. They gave up

660
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: four prospects for one of the better closers on the market.

661
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: The Ashers could be in the relief market. They need

662
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: a right handed leverage reliever. But as we've talked about,

663
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Speaker 1: and as we've kind of hinted at, you know, they

664
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Speaker 1: could put Christian Hobbyer in the bullpen in the playoffs

665
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: if they get I don't know, Dylan Ceese, if they

666
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: get another starter, like they can backfill that internally as

667
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: far as you know some other names that look I

668
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: feel comfortable saying that Dylan ce and Carlos Korea right

669
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: now are probably, I don't want to say, the only

670
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: two primary focuses of the Ashers, but they are at

671
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Speaker 1: the top of their wish list. As we've discussed, the

672
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Speaker 1: Korea thing is going to be difficult. Dylan Cee, I

673
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Speaker 1: believe there are other suitors for him as well that

674
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Speaker 1: can maybe put together a better package. So as you

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Speaker 1: start to look at maybe some other guys the Rays

676
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: keep losing. Did some reporting today and it still doesn't

677
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Speaker 1: sound like they're gonna listen on Brandon. Is it low

678
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: or I always forget I think it's low It's Brandon Lowe. Yes,

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00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: it's Brandon Lawe, not Brandon Lowe. It's Nathaniel Lowe and

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Speaker 1: Josh Lowe because we just saw Nathaniel Lowe with the Nationals. Okay,

681
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Speaker 1: I talk through this. I'm good. Brandon Laoe. I still

682
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: don't get the sense the Rays are going to talk

683
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: about him. But you know, if Dana Brown calls them

684
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Speaker 1: and gives them the right guy, then who knows that

685
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: that could happen? That a rental plug and play left

686
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: handed hitting second basement. That's probably the cleanest way to go.

687
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: The Astras are still interested and engaged on au Henneo

688
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: Suarez of the Diamondbacks. Tyler have we talked about, like

689
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: how not great of a fit that? I mean again, yeah,

690
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: you plug and play him. He's a he's a third baseman.

691
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: Like he plug and play. He plays third base for

692
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Speaker 1: the rest of the season and then he goes into

693
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: free agency but strikes out a lot. Is not a

694
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Speaker 1: good defensive third basement at all. He's gotten better, but

695
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: is not a good defensive third baseman. He's got power,

696
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: can hit the ball out of the ballpark. Is a

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Speaker 1: right handed hitter. Should also know that Carlos care is

698
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Speaker 1: a right handed hitter. But at this point, I think

699
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Speaker 1: we're throwing handedness out of the window. Who in a

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Speaker 1: world where Dylan Ceese and Carlos Correa don't happen, is

701
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Speaker 1: there one guy that you've thought of or you've circle

702
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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, that that guy would be nice to

703
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Speaker 1: have here. I don't. I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, it just has to be somebody, right,

705
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Speaker 3: Like they're gonna get somebody that is a slightly above

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Speaker 3: average guy that can play, you know, third base, or

707
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 3: that can you know, provide some positional flexibility so that

708
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 3: you can have Dubond playing third or you know whoever.

709
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: But I mean, they have to do something. But no,

710
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 3: there's there's nobody out. Honestly, I was really hoping that

711
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: over the last two weeks the Red Sox would just

712
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 3: tank and the Astros could trade for Bregmann. That would

713
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: have been really fun. But they, unfortunately are in the mix.

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Speaker 3: The Red Sox are not trading. They're they're five games out,

715
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 3: so that's not gonna happen. But I mean, no, there's

716
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Speaker 3: really not anybody. And these severity of east Okkard's injury

717
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Speaker 3: and the hole that he's left in the lineup means that,

718
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 3: like you just you got to get somebody that can

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Speaker 3: that can play in those positions and that can you know,

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Speaker 3: phill a spot in the lineup. But I don't, I

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Speaker 3: don't know what what are the people on on on

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Speaker 3: your replies, who are they begging for?

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Speaker 1: I mean Korea?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I okay, let's let's let's end it on

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Speaker 1: Korea because we started on Korea. How much of how

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Speaker 1: much is sentimentality? Weighing on a lot of people that

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Speaker 1: it'd be really cool to see this happen. And and

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Speaker 1: for me personally, Carlos Korea is one of my top

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Speaker 1: three players I've ever covered. From a personal standpoint, I

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Speaker 1: would love it if he comes back because he is

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Speaker 1: one of the smartest, most engaging, most affable people I

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Speaker 1: have ever met, either in baseball or out of baseball. Like,

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Speaker 1: I would love him to back, just from that from

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Speaker 1: my personal for the job, for the story, it'd be great.

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Speaker 1: How much do you think that we need to outweigh

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Speaker 1: the sentimentality with just the practicality of this thing of

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Speaker 1: what we talked about of they'd have to jump through

739
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Speaker 1: a lot of hoops, there would be a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I had this thought today and I

741
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Speaker 1: talked about it with someone who is not in the

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Speaker 1: just I'll say it out right as me and Brian

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Speaker 1: Bogasvik we're just chatting the back of the press box

744
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Speaker 1: today and I brought up this. I said, if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna pay a middle infielder like thirty five million dollars

746
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Speaker 1: a year and you're okay doing that, you've got a

747
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Speaker 1: guy that's really good that's having that was having an

748
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Speaker 1: MVP type season before his rib broke. Why not pay

749
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Speaker 1: him like if you're if you're okay doing it for

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Speaker 1: correct like it it. I don't know, maybe it just

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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me. But how much do you

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Speaker 1: think sentimentality is in this and how much should it

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Speaker 1: lay in this?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean a counterpoint to that is you didn't

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00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: pay Korea and you have kind of got to watch

756
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: him from Afar and then as soon as he's available

757
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: you can get him again on your terms.

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Speaker 1: Right, you can't get him on your terms?

759
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you, but you don't. You don't need care.

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Speaker 3: This is like, okay, if it's a good fit, it'll

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Speaker 3: you know, because before the parades injury that I would

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Speaker 3: absolutely have said, like you're crazy, that's that's completely sentimentality.

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Speaker 3: But now there's and there's only a handful of guys

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Speaker 3: that are regular everyday third baseman. Crazy is not even

765
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Speaker 3: a third basement. But you just assume he can do it.

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Speaker 1: The last thing I am concerned about.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: The last thing I'm concerned about.

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's there's there's not a lot out there.

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Speaker 3: So even if his name wasn't Carlos Korea. That would

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Speaker 3: be a guy that you would look at. You're right,

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00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 3: the money is one thing, but again, if you're looking

773
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Speaker 3: at a roster construction thing. Look, Jammy Pania is not

774
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Speaker 3: signing an extension, so it doesn't even matter if you

775
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,479
Speaker 3: wanted to pay him thirty million dollars. You're not gonna

776
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Speaker 3: be able to for the next three years anyway. So

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Speaker 3: you can have Korea and then you can make the

778
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Speaker 3: decision do we want to pay Jemmy Pania a free

779
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 3: agent contract or whatever. But you've already lost the ability

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Speaker 3: to sign Paynia to any sort of extension before he

781
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: hits free agency. So it would be silly to say, well,

782
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Speaker 3: we're not gonna pay this other guy money for the

783
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: next three years because you couldn't have given that to

784
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Speaker 3: Painia anyway. And it's not like you get to bank

785
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: money that you know doesn't count against your luxury at

786
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 3: tax now and you can you can use it later

787
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 3: like you got to use it anyway, and your team's

788
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 3: good right now. So I definitely see why they're they're

789
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: looking into it. I would be excited again, he's still

790
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 3: a good player. Like you mentioned, you know, it's it's

791
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: not been his best season by any stretch of the

792
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: imagination this year, but he was he was really good

793
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 3: last year before he got injured, and had been good,

794
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: you know, in twenty twenty two, and then you know,

795
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: played a full season in twenty twenty three that was

796
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Speaker 3: not good. But even the worst Carlos Korea season again

797
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: was a ninety four ohps plus season, which is something

798
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Speaker 3: that would be very valuable to your team right now

799
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Speaker 3: if it happens, if you can, if you can sneak

800
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Speaker 3: this in here. You know how whenever they call up

801
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: guys from the miners, they hide the camera in there

802
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 3: and they do the the you know, just wanted to

803
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 3: talk to you about the lineup or whatever. I want

804
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: them to do that with Altuve and telling him that

805
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 3: they've traded for I want like a live reaction from

806
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: Altuve that his buddy is coming back. If that happens,

807
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: that would be very fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. Jose al Tuve did

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Speaker 1: speak to reporters today after the game. After not getting

810
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: a five hit game for the forty first time in

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Speaker 1: his career, he was asked about Carlos Korea gave a

812
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: very diplomatic Jose L two V type answer to say,

813
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Speaker 1: he's a great teammate, has done a lot for Houston,

814
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: done a lot for the city, and that he hopes

815
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: whatever happens is good for him and good for us.

816
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Speaker 1: And then al two was asked. I actually asked him,

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Speaker 1: have you spoken Correa since, you know, in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of days, and he said, not yet, maybe after

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Speaker 1: the deadline. And then someone else asked, well, when are

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Speaker 1: you planning to maybe speak to him? And he very politely,

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Speaker 1: This is the first I've covered Hoseel TV for eight

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Speaker 1: years now. This is the first time I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: him end an interview. He did it very politely. He

824
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: was laughing the whole time. He said, that's it. I'm

825
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: walking away. So it does look does seem like that

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Speaker 1: has the word has filtered into the clubhouse. Obviously they're

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Speaker 1: all on X, they're all on any social media. They

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Speaker 1: know that this is a possibility too. They did say

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Speaker 1: that the front office and ownership have not reached out

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Speaker 1: to him about anything, so mustn't be that close. But

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Speaker 1: if it happens, it will be certainly something that would

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Speaker 1: put an injection of energy into a team that I

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00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think needs energy. They just need to get healthy.

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Speaker 1: Like we've talked about, Tyler, the best way this team

835
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Speaker 1: is going to improve is its guys getting healthy, and

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Speaker 1: that's going to start in Boston this weekend when Jeremy

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Speaker 1: Pania is Barring something happening in TRIAA tonight, where Jeremy

838
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: Pania will play in his second rehab game, he will

839
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Speaker 1: play shortstop. Barring something happening there, Jeremy Panyon is very

840
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: likely to join the team in Boston on Friday and

841
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: perhaps be activated. Will we have a new companion on

842
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: the left side of the infield who knows. If he does,

843
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: we will come to you with live reaction on that.

844
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: If he doesn't, we'll still talk about whomever the Astros

845
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: acquire in the next now twenty two hours before the

846
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Speaker 1: trade line. As always, you can follow me on x

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Speaker 1: full disclosure, guys. I've got a very hectic travel schedule

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. I'm flying to Boston along with a couple

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Speaker 1: of other beat writers. We're flying to Boston at six

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Speaker 1: fifty pm on Thursday. So if the Astros make a

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Speaker 1: deal at like, I don't know, four thirty five, we're

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Speaker 1: all kind of ft. But suffice to say, probably won't

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Speaker 1: have time to do just an immediate podcast after the

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Speaker 1: trade deadline, but we will well coming back. We do

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Speaker 1: have one schedule for Friday morning. Josh Reddick will be

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Speaker 1: with us on Friday morning, so you'll be able to

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Speaker 1: hear all about who the Astras acquire, what they gave

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Speaker 1: up to get them, and the new and complete Houston

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Speaker 1: Asher's twenty twenty five Snashers will come to you back

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Speaker 1: on Friday. As always, thanks for listening and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you guys soon. Bye.