1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: All right, So I'm telling not used to manage. Usually 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: like the executive producer, I just show up, so I'm like, 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: what do I do? 4 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: All right? 5 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: All right, Mandy, I know you're listening and shaking your head. 6 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: You're missed. Hey, Hey, it's me Tiffany Elice aka the Budgetista. 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: Welcome to Brown Ambition. Super excited. So you're gonna hear 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: mostly my voice today and the voice of our very 9 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: special guests. Mandy's not with us today, but we're still 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: gonna rock on and rock out. You guys have asked 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: so many questions since we had our last guest on Helen, 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: who talked about like retirement as it relates to investing, 13 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, let's bring on someone 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: else that can talk to you about but in a 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: different kind of way. Have you ever heard of an 16 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: awesome company and you're like, oh boy, I'd love to 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: invest in that, or like you know, you've maybe you're 18 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: on the I don't know, you're at the movies and 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: you realize, like I remember, I used to always see 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: the hand dryer things that all of a sudden got 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: really big, and I remember thinking, I wonder where company 22 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: makes this? ID love to invest in that, well you can. 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: It's called stocks, And today we have Tila. Hochem does say, 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: you're not saying right, Tila, Yes you did. Yes, Tila 25 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: is amazing. She is stock queen extraordinaire. Tila specializes in trading, correct, Tila, Yes, 26 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: look at me, I've you known stuff. Tila specializes in trading. 27 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: And she's gonna talk to us about like what does 28 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: that mean? How do you get into it? Tila? Recently? 29 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: Is this recent that you paid off your mama's her house? 30 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: Yes, this year for Mother's Day. 31 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: I saw that video. So we're gonna talk about that too, 32 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: So welcome to you. 33 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. 34 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: So first, Tila, tell me how did you get into 35 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: trading stocks? So? 36 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: I got into it from a coworker. 37 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: He was talking about trading stocks and retiring and all that, 38 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: and it piqued my interest. I had never heard anyone 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 4: talking about it, and other than you know, just scrolling 40 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: or passing by the finance channel on TV. I mean, 41 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: I knew it existed, but that was kind of about it. 42 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 4: So I just started asking him questions about, you know, 43 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: how does it work and what books he was reading 44 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 4: and what did he recommend and like that just really 45 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: launched me into figuring out this thing called investing. 46 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: So what was the first company, Scott that you ever bought? 47 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: Do you remember? 48 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 3: Yes? I do. 49 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: I bought Coach because let me tell you. 50 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: That, Yes, my girl, I thought. 51 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: You know what, if I can make some money on this, 52 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 4: I can go get another purse. 53 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: Like I'm crazy about purses. 54 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: And that right there had me hooked, just knowing if 55 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: I make money from their stock, I can go buy 56 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 4: as many persons as I want it Like I was 57 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: sold with that. 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: So when you first, I'm assuming you were you were 59 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: still working at the time, right, yeah, yep, but you 60 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: no longer were for anyone? Correct? 61 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: Correct? 62 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: How do you support yourself trading stocks? 63 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 4: And then two years ago I launched my course teaching 64 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 4: others how to do it because they were like, you 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 4: gotta tell me, you got to show me how to 66 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 4: do this. 67 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: That's awesome, all right. So for the people who are 68 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: listening and they're like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, 69 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: my gosh, I would to trade? Do I just go 70 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: download like the Robinhood app am I trading? Then? No, 71 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: not quite, not yet. 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 4: That is a start, okay, but you then have to 73 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: figure out what companies that you actually want to. 74 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: Buy or trade and invest in. 75 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 4: So that would be my first episode or my first 76 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: recommendation is figuring that out. 77 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: First, okay, And when someone first starts trading, what are 78 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: some of the common pitfalls that people make mistakes with 79 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: that you're like, oh, make sure that you don't do this, 80 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: or make sure you definitely do that. 81 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: So the first thing I like to get people to 82 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: understand is know whether you're wanting to trade or invest, 83 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 4: because there's definitely a difference. So with trading, you're buying 84 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 4: now and you're selling within sometime with less than a 85 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 4: year from now, right, So in a couple of days, 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks, couple of months, that's trading. 87 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: Now. 88 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: Investing is where you plan on buying today and you 89 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 4: plan on holding it for the you know, a year, 90 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: five years, or decades, okay, because a lot of people 91 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: will buy for long term, but then they're like, all right, 92 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 4: too little money's not rolling in, right, But you've got 93 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 4: to remember with investing, it's for years to decades. If 94 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: you're wanting to see some money roll in sometime soon, 95 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 4: then you're wanting to do the trading side of things. 96 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 4: So I always make sure people understand the difference there, okay. 97 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: Okay. 98 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 4: Another thing is stick stay away from the popular ones, 99 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: the ones that move really fast, because a lot of 100 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: people can't stomach that kind of movement, like twenty dollars up. 101 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: A stock going up twenty dollars in. 102 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: A day, it sounds amazing to people, but when the 103 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 4: stock goes down twenty dollars in a day, that can 104 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 4: really scare you, Okay. 105 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: And so the third thing. 106 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: I recommend people do is know what your budget is. 107 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 4: And so if you can allocate within your budget how 108 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 4: much you're willing to put towards your investments, then you 109 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: won't feel like you're behind or not able to invest. 110 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: But it's now within your family budget to where you 111 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 4: can set aside enough money to get started. 112 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: Okay. So when people so like someone like you or 113 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: just anyone, do you suggest if people are going to trade, 114 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: should they also be investing too, or you kind of 115 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: pick one or the other. 116 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 4: I recommend people do both, okay, because they can. By 117 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: doing both, you can actually build onto each other. So 118 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 4: like I personally do both trade and invest, and so 119 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: I take the trading money and. 120 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: Yes I do live off of it. 121 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: And then I take the majority of it and I 122 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 4: put it towards my long term investments. So it's kind 123 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 4: of like my workhorse, or it's trading is now my 124 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 4: nine to five, right, and so I take the money 125 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 4: from my nine to five to fund my retirement or 126 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: my long term investment account. 127 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: Okay, let's ask some of the fun questions. What is 128 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: the most you've ever made in a day where you're 129 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: like ooh, or even if it's not the most you've 130 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: ever made in the day, the most a stock has 131 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: gone up, Like you've made like in a day from 132 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: like one stock. You don't have to tell us the 133 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: stock or anything. I'm just curious to see, like how 134 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: wild trading can get. Like what's the most you've made 135 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: from one stock and what's like the most you's lost 136 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: from one stock in a day. 137 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: I have made twelve thousand dollars from UH in three days. 138 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 3: It was I bought one day. 139 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 4: In the third day it was it closed and I 140 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 4: had made twelve thousand. 141 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, but. 142 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: Then I've also lost like seven thousand on a stock. 143 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, it. 144 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 4: Can swing up just as much as it could do that. 145 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: So if so, if you were going to warn folks 146 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: like you know, because I think especially women. So most 147 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: of the women that listen are brown and ambitious, but 148 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: more and more thankfully because of the work that folks 149 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: like me and you are doing, we're starting to see 150 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: women like us get into trading and investing and financial education. 151 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: But it's not typically the case for brown women. So, like, 152 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: what words of encouragement would you give to get people 153 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: to get started, because it can most of us didn't 154 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: grow up in a household where money was talked about, 155 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: so it can be a little overwhelming to kind of 156 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: tiptoe in the door. So what was the thing that 157 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: your coworker kind of gave you that little push? What's 158 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: that thing you can give us to be like, okay, 159 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: this is this is my little pep talk to you. 160 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't even my coworker that that pushed 161 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 4: me to do it. I just knew, you know, it 162 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: was I And I came from a single parent home 163 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 4: as my mom and me and my brother, and I 164 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: saw how hard she worked. I saw how she couldn't 165 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 4: be there for like some of our school events and 166 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: things like that, and that really hurt me. And I 167 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: didn't understand it as a kid. But when I found 168 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: myself as a single parent, I then understood it. I 169 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: understood why she was working so hard and she didn't 170 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: want to not be there for certain things, but she 171 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: had to because she was working multiple jobs. And I said, 172 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 4: you know what, I don't want to be there. And 173 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 4: I saw my mom, you know, fifty then inching towards sixty, 174 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 4: and she's feeling like she still has to work because 175 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 4: she does have to pay off a house and she 176 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: didn't have a retirement built up. And I was like, 177 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 4: I know, I need to do something different. And she 178 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 4: always told me be better than me, do better than me, 179 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 4: and now that she did a bad job, but she's like, 180 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: just go on and do more than what I was 181 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 4: able to do. And finances was one way that I 182 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 4: was like, Okay, I'm gonna do better, Like how can 183 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 4: I not how can I be here for my kid 184 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 4: every day? And it was I have to change things financially. 185 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 4: I have to start investing, and not even just for myself, 186 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 4: but I have to start building this to where I 187 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 4: have our family has something to pass down so my 188 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: daughter doesn't start at a step zero like I did 189 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 4: and like my mom did. And so that just watching 190 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 4: her and looking back and then finding myself as a 191 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: single parent is really what drove me to figure this out. 192 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: So for all my brown ladies out there. 193 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: You can do this, Like for us to change the 194 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: trajectory of our families and our community as a whole, 195 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: we have to do more than. 196 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 4: Just budgeting and saving like those we do need to 197 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: know that. And I tell everyone with trading and investing, 198 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: like I can teach you how to make the money, 199 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 4: but if you don't know how to manage it and 200 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 4: save it and all that, it's not going to do 201 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 4: you any good. So that is a great foundation, but 202 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: we then have to do more once you once you 203 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 4: have that, what's the next step, And that's going to 204 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 4: be investing so that we can build I. 205 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: Always say, you cannot budget and save your way to wealth. 206 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: Like I started, the budget needs to to be like 207 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: the prerequisite of the rest of your financial life, not 208 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: to be your financial life, you know. And then because 209 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: what people don't understand, I think is they don't get 210 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: that savings is like the gateway drug to invest in 211 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, yeah, you know that, Like if you 212 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: don't have any money saved, like the purpose of budgeting 213 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: and so you can take care of your current finances, 214 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: but so you can save. And the purpose of savings 215 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: is yes, so you can you know, have somebody set 216 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: aside for an emergency. But really the purpose of savings 217 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: is so you can grow wealth via investing. 218 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: Exactly. 219 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you don't budget, if you don't save, 220 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: it's going to be very difficult to find the means. 221 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: To grow wealth, right exactly. 222 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: So now that you so trading, so what kind of 223 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: commitment if I'm wanting to trade in because I know 224 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: that's what you say, trade in by nine to five 225 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: for those who didn't get that at that pun right there, 226 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: it's a pun, right, So let's just say I'm wanting 227 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 1: to trade in my ninety five how many hours a 228 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: day can I expect to be trading in order to 229 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: make enough to support myself like an average income? And 230 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: then how many days a week can I expect to invest? 231 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 4: Okay, So that's a very good question. And I tell 232 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: people they need to know that there's day trading because 233 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 4: a lot of times when people hear trading, they think 234 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 4: you're day trading. And day trading is where you're making 235 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: a bunch of trades a day, so you're buying and 236 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 4: selling several times to one hundred times a day, and 237 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 4: that is a full time job. And so for me, 238 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: that just definitely turned me off. I didn't want a 239 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 4: full time job anymore. But what I do is called 240 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 4: swing trading, which allows me to have more time. And 241 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: so what swing trading is is I will buy today 242 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: and I will sell in a couple of days to 243 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks, and so I don't have to 244 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: do a whole bunch of trading and it doesn't take 245 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: a whole bunch of my time. What my week in 246 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 4: the life kind of looks like it's Sundays. I sit 247 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 4: down and I find the stocks that I might want 248 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 4: to watch throughout the week, and so I'll pick maybe 249 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 4: five that I'm watching for the week to see if 250 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 4: they're going to present some good trades, and I check 251 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 4: them twice a day, and so about thirty minutes twice 252 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 4: a day, so an hour a day. It's about how 253 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 4: much I spend it. I don't even do it every day. 254 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: Like there's some weeks where I won't even trade, Like 255 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 4: I took all of July off so I could go 256 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 4: to New Zealand, and I just kind of make my 257 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 4: own schedule. 258 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: Okay, And that's where the budgeting and savings comes in, 259 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: because if you don't manage the money that you've earned 260 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: via trading, then taking a month off is not gonna 261 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: be optioned if you tricked up all your money the 262 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: month before exactly. No, that's awesome. Wow. You know, for 263 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: some reason I thought that, I guess I thought, oh, 264 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:52,479 Speaker 1: you have a doggy. 265 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, he didn't understand we podcast. 266 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: For some reason, I always thought that you did. I 267 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 1: just I didn't even know there was a difference. I 268 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: thought that, like, oh, if you're trading, you're day trading. 269 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: No, yeah, there's a difference. 270 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: Okay. Wow, that's really good to know, because I think 271 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: too that some of our listeners might get turned off 272 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: by the thought of I don't want to sit by 273 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: that computer looking at that green and up and down 274 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: arrow and the red hour, you know, like all day 275 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: every day, Like like you're saying, doing hundreds of trades 276 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: a day. That doesn't appeal to I think the average person. 277 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: So it's good to know that there are are there 278 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: others aside from day trading and swing trading. Are there 279 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: other types of trading styles that we should know? 280 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: So there's day trading, swing trading, there's one other. It 281 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 4: escapes me right now, and then after that it's a 282 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 4: matter of like what type of they call them instruments? 283 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: So what do you want to trade? Do you want 284 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 4: to trade stocks? Do you want to trade options? Do 285 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: you want to trade four x which is foreign currency? 286 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 4: And now we have cryptocurrency? 287 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, so how do yeah? So what are your 288 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: thoughts on cryptocurrency? Talk about that? Like, So remember, guys, 289 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: this is what we share here is not to be 290 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: taken as direct advice about what you should do with 291 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: your life. This is my lawyer talking. This is merely 292 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: a conversation between two professionals, and you know you should 293 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: do your due diligence. So with that being said, so 294 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts, like in general about cryptocurrency, Like, 295 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: I guess Bitcoin and light coin and all this stuff 296 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: in particular, like it just seems I remember it just 297 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: especially Bitcoin exploded out of everywhere, out of nowhere, and 298 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: now it seemed like it did really well and then 299 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: it went away and then really well again and then 300 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: it's gone away. So what are your thoughts on cryptocurrency? 301 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 4: My thoughts are I really don't recommend it for someone 302 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 4: who is just getting started because of the huge swings 303 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 4: that can happen in cryptocurrency. Like a lot of people 304 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: they bought in and they thought they were doing something, 305 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 4: but it was just a I mean, they got lucky. 306 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 4: Basically they didn't really understand what they were doing and 307 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: how it worked. But because there was so much pandemonium 308 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 4: around it, a lot of people got lucky. So I 309 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: always recommend, like if you don't know anything about it, 310 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 4: about trading, like don't, don't get into it now. 311 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: I think that's really good advice because you're right, cryptocurrency 312 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: was such the wave, and I think that the mistake 313 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: that a lot of people make is that they hear 314 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: a hot stock tip right, and they go and purchase, 315 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: but they have no idea why. Like when when Colin Kaepernick, 316 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: you know, did the Nike ad and Nike ended up 317 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: doing well. But folks were just buying just to buy. 318 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: But I don't think they really understood you know, why 319 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: they should buy, if they should at all, and if 320 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: they should keep and sell or you know, should they 321 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: hold and. 322 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 4: So and Yeah, I see a lot of that, and 323 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 4: I always recommend if don't let the fear of missing 324 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 4: out make you jump into an investments that you don't understand. 325 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: Trust me, the stock market is not going anywhere. There's 326 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: gonna be other stocks. 327 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 4: There's going to be other companies are going to have 328 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 4: the opportunity, So please take the time to stop and 329 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 4: get educated on what you're going to invest in. 330 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, fum will have you broke off? 331 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I always say hope will make you go broke. 332 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: Okay, about how long, Like when you, you know, first started, 333 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: was your intention always to be able to make enough 334 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: to quit your ninety five No? 335 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: At first it wasn't. 336 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: It was just oh, I'm going to try to learn 337 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 4: this and maybe I'll make a little bit of money. 338 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 4: And I was trying to actually start another business at 339 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 4: the same time. And the trading just really took off. 340 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 4: And my husband's like, this is what you should be 341 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: concentrating on. I'm like, maybe I should, and it just 342 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,479 Speaker 4: it worked, it worked out. 343 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: And so how long into trading were you able to 344 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: be like, wait a minute, I think I think I 345 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: can quit. 346 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 4: Actually I got fired okay because of the business I 347 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 4: had started. 348 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: They said they saw me as a conflict of interest. 349 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 4: So I actually got kicked out of the nest before 350 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: I was ready because I had this whole plan that 351 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 4: I was going to quit and run the business, and 352 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 4: like I said, trading wasn't even the forefront of it. 353 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: I didn't think that was going to be it. 354 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 4: So about a year that was a year after I 355 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 4: had been trading, and I had to figure out what 356 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 4: what I was going to do. We stopped. We looked 357 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 4: at our finances, saw what was coming in, what was 358 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 4: going out, what could we pay off? And when we 359 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 4: looked at what money was coming in, we saw that 360 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: I was making quite a bit with the trading, and 361 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 4: so I just started doing that and managing my retirement 362 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 4: account that I had with my job. And when I 363 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 4: took my retirement account from forty thousand dollars, I had 364 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: it at my company for four years and it was 365 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 4: forty thousand dollars in it, and I took it from 366 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 4: forty thousand to ninety two thousand in four months or 367 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 4: excuse me, six months. Then I was like, okay, yeah, 368 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 4: I'm onto something. And so that's really what waunch me 369 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 4: into like going forward full time. 370 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: Ah, that's amazing. Four months. Yeah, right, So results are 371 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: not typical. So don't you know for those of you yesing, No, 372 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: So I guess, hmm, if somebody is wanting to, do 373 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: you think the average person could make enough to trade 374 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: in their ninety five? 375 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: Yes, I actually have two students who have traded their 376 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 4: nine to five. I have a third who is on 377 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 4: her way to have traded her nine to five by 378 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 4: December of this year. And the beauty of it is 379 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 4: the way it's structured is you can dictate whether you 380 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 4: want to trade or nine to five. 381 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 3: You don't even have to quit your job. 382 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 4: Maybe you want to work in a nonprofit that maybe 383 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: doesn't pay as much, but you want to compensate, you know, 384 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 4: have extra income another way to create income. 385 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: You can do that. 386 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 4: Maybe you want to stay at your job and you 387 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 4: just want to create income, or you want to actually 388 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 4: trade your nine to five, you can. And that's the 389 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 4: beauty of the way I've structured the program is like 390 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 4: you can decide what your life is going to look like. 391 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: So, yeah, what can you expect to start with? So 392 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: if someone's like, but I don't even have a lot 393 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: of money, but I would like to trade in my 394 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: nine to five, what's the reasonabout amount of money to 395 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: start with? As far as trading is concerned. 396 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 3: So I always say no, money. 397 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: Start with no money, because there's there's something out there 398 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 4: called a virtual account, and I started with this when 399 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 4: I first started. A virtual account is a pretend stock 400 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: account where you can buy and sell and kind of 401 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 4: learn what you're doing with virtual money before you put 402 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 4: your real money out there. 403 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: And I practiced. 404 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 4: It's called a practice account, but I used it for 405 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 4: eight months before I started using my real money because 406 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 4: I wanted to be confident and comfortable with what I 407 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 4: was doing before I used real money. So I always say, 408 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 4: start with zero and don't let the fear of missing 409 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 4: out drive you crazy, Okay, And then after that, I say, 410 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: if you're I'm going to be trading at least one 411 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 4: thousand dollars, no more than three thousand, and then if 412 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 4: you're doing long term investing, you can start with as 413 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 4: little as like twenty dollars with some of the discount 414 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 4: boutique apps that they have out now, and you. 415 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 3: Know, all the way up to like five hundred if 416 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 3: you want it. 417 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, what do you think, like, because you know, 418 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 1: like in the personal finance space, trading gets such a 419 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: bad rap. You know, people will tell you, which it 420 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: is not necessarily a terrible thing. If you're not willing 421 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: to do the work, like put your money into index fund. 422 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: You know. So for those of you who don't know, 423 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: index fund is a fund that mirrors whatever market, So 424 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: the SMP five hundred, so basically whatever the market does, 425 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: that's exactly where your what your money will do. If 426 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: the market is up, your money is up. The market 427 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: is down, your money is down. It's basically like buying 428 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: all the stocks in that particular market, and it just 429 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: means that you can kind of set it and semi 430 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: forget it. So I find a lot of financial personal 431 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: financial experts kind of pooh pooh on trading. Why do 432 00:20:59,280 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: you think that is? 433 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 4: It's because people don't take the time to look into stocks. 434 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 4: They're either trying to jump on the bandwagon of someone 435 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 4: else saying there, you know, bought a stock, or they're 436 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 4: trying to get rich quick with it, and that's not 437 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 4: the way to go. Like, is it possible to make 438 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 4: a lot of money with it? Yes, but you have 439 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 4: to again, know your risk tolerance, know how to manage 440 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: your money. Say like, don't try to make a lot 441 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 4: of money in one trade, like make a make a 442 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 4: budget or a goal. 443 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: Say okay, with. 444 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 4: This trade, I say, always assigned a job, especially when 445 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 4: you first have you start out and you. 446 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: Have debt, and it's like. 447 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 4: Like when I first started with my coach person, it's like, Okay, 448 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: this purse is two hundred dollars, So when I make 449 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 4: two hundred dollars on this, I'm going to sell. Or 450 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: I'm going to make one hundred dollars and then I'm 451 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 4: going to sell and I'm going to do another one 452 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 4: I make one hundred dollars, right, But I also was like, 453 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 4: if I lose twenty five dollars, I'm going to sell 454 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 4: because you have to, you know. 455 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 3: Know that so that you can minimize risk. 456 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 4: And a lot of people don't know that or don't 457 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 4: do that, and they don't take the time to learn 458 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 4: how to do that. And so that's why a lot 459 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 4: of finance people will tell you that trading and buying 460 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 4: individual stocks isn't the way to go because the normal 461 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 4: individual or the average individual won't take the time to 462 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 4: do that. Yeah, and our money is emotional, Like we 463 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 4: get emotional about our money, you know, when we see 464 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 4: it going away on the screen, we panic because we remember, 465 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: you know, what it was like before when we didn't 466 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 4: have money, and we know, you know, we don't want 467 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 4: to go back to there. So there it conjures up 468 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 4: a whole bunch of emotions as well, and you have 469 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 4: to learn how to how to deal with that too. 470 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: Yes, because even now, like I just opened up my 471 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: robinhood app, I'm like, what the entire hell is happening? Right? 472 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: So like it was, it was always green, it's so 473 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: terrible to open it up and read what it's been 474 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: like today. I lost two percent last week a I mean, 475 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: of all time. I think I started, oh said on 476 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: my birthday look at me October sixteenth, twenty seventeen, so 477 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: almost a year ago literally to date, and so over 478 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: in that year, I've gained eight point on fourteen percent, 479 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: but at one point it was like twenty percent. That 480 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: like my gains, you know, so it just feels like 481 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: what's happening? But honestly, this is kind of like my 482 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: my play money. So literally, like you know, I'll see 483 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: a stock to a little research and I'm like, oh, 484 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: I'll buy one share, two shares because I don't know 485 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: that I'm ready. Would you have to would you say 486 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: that someone really has to be committed to, especially in 487 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 1: the beginning, if you're going to start trading. It's not 488 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: something that you can kind of like, do you. I 489 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: know it doesn't take as much time as day trading, 490 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: but you really have to be committed to learning the 491 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: process and investing the time and the energy to do 492 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: it right. And I don't feel like I have the 493 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 1: capacity right now to really commit to learning, but you 494 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: make me seem like you make it seem possible. 495 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 4: Well, and I think that's important to identify that saying like, Okay, 496 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 4: I don't think I have the capacity or the time. 497 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 4: Then you know that, then you know attempting to do 498 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 4: this isn't for you. 499 00:23:58,800 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: And that's good. 500 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 4: But instead of getting out there and then you're like, oh, 501 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: I forgot to check my stock today and I didn't 502 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 4: get out at the time I was supposed to, I 503 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 4: didn't set myself price, then you're losing money because you're distracted. 504 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 4: Even now, Like when I know I'm going to be distracted, 505 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 4: I'm traveling or I'm with family, and I'm like, I 506 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: know I'm not gonna have time to check I just 507 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 4: don't even trade at all because I don't. So if 508 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 4: you know that that is your lifestyle and you don't 509 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 4: have the time to commit to it, I would say, 510 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 4: focus on the investing side. 511 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I like that, see say because I think, 512 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like sometimes the personal finance space 513 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: there can be there's a lack of duality, you know, 514 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: like folks are like, no budget, but like, like, you know, 515 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: since I'm the budget said, folks will say, like, girl, 516 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about nobody's budget. I'm here to teach 517 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: people how to make money. And I'm like, well, I'm 518 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not opposed to people making money. I'm 519 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: not here. There's no one one or all or other. 520 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: I feel like there was a hole in the market 521 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: for basic financial education and I just wanted to create 522 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: a space for foundations so people could go on to 523 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: people like you, not for you to stop and not 524 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: move forward. So sometimes I feel like in our space 525 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: that folks choose all or nothing, and I don't really 526 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: that's not how people work. You know. There are people 527 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: who are gonna want to invest for the long term. 528 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: There are people who are totally open to trading. More 529 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: and more of my friends are getting the florx. You know. 530 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: There are folks who are like, I'm wanting to start 531 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: a business. I feel like it's possible to want to 532 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: try all things and figure out what's best for you, 533 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: and to me, there is no right or wrong. It's 534 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: just what's right for you. 535 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the thing with the stock market is 536 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 4: that there's so many ways to make money with this that, 537 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 4: like you said, there is no right or wrong, Like 538 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 4: what is best for you is what matters. 539 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: M hmm. 540 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. So okay, so you started trading, you're doing well, 541 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: You're you know, you got fired, but that was a 542 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: god send their loss, right, and so you know that 543 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: you realize, huh, what made you say I want to 544 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: now teach this to Is it mostly women or do 545 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: you have men to? 546 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 4: I have men to, But ninety percent of my audience 547 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 4: is women, okay, which is which is awesome because you 548 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: don't see very many women in the investing or stock 549 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 4: market space. So I absolutely love it when I you know, 550 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 4: they're excited because they understand it, or they're excited because 551 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 4: they're making money. 552 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 3: On one student was like, oh. 553 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 4: I was out with my toddler and I got a 554 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 4: notification on my phone that I made money, so it 555 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 4: is awesome, But yeah, there's some men trickled in there. 556 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: So what was the trigger that said it's time for 557 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: me to start teaching this. 558 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 4: You know, I started getting people coming to me and 559 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 4: they're like, Okay, what are you doing differently than what 560 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 4: we're doing? And I was like, well in the stock market. 561 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: They're like what, how did you look? And then they 562 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 3: wanted me to start teaching them. 563 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 4: And I at first was like, I can't believe someone 564 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 4: would want to pay me to teach them how to 565 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 4: do this, and I was I love helping people, and 566 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 4: I get really excited when I told when I talk. 567 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: About it, so I was like, maybe I could. 568 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 4: And then it's really, to me, doesn't feel like a 569 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 4: job because I'm talking about something I enjoy all day long. 570 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 4: And I had an ex coworker who was like, hey, 571 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 4: how much he wrote me my first check? I have 572 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 4: it framed in my office. I just kind of started 573 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 4: putting together trying to get everything out of my head 574 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 4: and onto. 575 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 3: Paper to teach this. 576 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 4: And you know, that's when I discovered the world of 577 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 4: online courses and you know, got out there with it. 578 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,239 Speaker 1: Well, what does a course with Taylor look like? 579 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 4: Ooh, a course with me looks like I'm teaching you 580 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 4: my system. 581 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: Like with everything out there in the side market. 582 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 4: There's it's just more information and more information and more information, 583 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 4: and then you don't. 584 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 3: Know what to do with it all. 585 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 4: Well, with my program, I'm giving you step by step, 586 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 4: this is what you look for. 587 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 3: This is when you know when to buy. This is 588 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 3: how you figure out when to sell. And so people. 589 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 4: Can grasp that a lot better when they're they're told, Okay, 590 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 4: this is the your your system or your process to follow, 591 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 4: and it gives you the rules that you're supposed to 592 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 4: play by in the stock market so that you're minimizing 593 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 4: your risk and things like that. 594 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: But so it's a video course. 595 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 4: There's a Facebook group community of about two hundred and 596 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 4: sixty of us helping each other. 597 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: And the beauty is. 598 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 4: Since we're all following the same system or process, Like 599 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 4: when someone posts they're watching a stock you can see exactly. 600 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: Where they got in and where they got out because 601 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: we're all following the same system. Like some of them 602 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 3: are like, Hey, I. 603 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 4: Got in that same trade and I got out about 604 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 4: the same time. And it's like, it's so awesome to 605 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 4: be able to, you know, kind of have a community 606 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: like that. 607 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: I love that, that's just awesome. I just love that 608 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: there's this rise in women really taking control of their 609 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: finances and no longer just kind of like waiting for 610 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: things to be shared or given to them. 611 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 612 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so kudos to you. That's awesome. Like, our audience 613 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: is largely women and largely brown women, and so we're 614 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: all wanted to expose them to dope, awesome folks and 615 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: resources and just some like encouragement that they too, can 616 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: can can try something new. I know a lot of 617 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: people who are unhappy at their current job, and you know, 618 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna make the suggestion to someone who just 619 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: told me the other day like, yo, I hate my job. 620 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: This is the second job in the world that I hate, 621 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: and it just has like a light bulb going, like huh. 622 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: She actually has her her bachelor's in finance and her 623 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: master's in like marketing or something like that. So I'm 624 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna be like, well, girl, do you have a thousand 625 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: dollars you know to start trading? 626 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: Like I know? 627 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: Of course, So if people wanted to take your course, 628 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: where would they find it? 629 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 4: You can find the course at trade your nine to 630 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 4: five dot com. 631 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: Okay, I love that that's smart. Trade your nine the 632 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: letter nine, I mean the number nine number nine two 633 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: number two or just t O T O two five 634 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: dot com trade your nine to five dot com. I 635 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: love that, all right, miss Tila. We have just a 636 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: few more minutes. So if you the best piece of 637 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: advice you you could give someone who was like, you 638 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: know what, I'm really interested in trading. I think I 639 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: want to start. If you could go back to beginner trader, Tila, 640 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: you know what would you have told her that's gonna 641 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: help us? 642 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 4: I would say start with the products and services, you know, 643 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 4: because it's going to motivate you to keep going. 644 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: Because some of this stuff can seem like it's. 645 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 4: Overwhelming or over your head and you're like, are they 646 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 4: even speaking English in this joint? 647 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: But start with. 648 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 4: That because that for me, knowing that you know the 649 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 4: person is what motivated me, and so it kept me 650 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 4: moving forward trying to figure it out and understand it. 651 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 4: Versus if I had to learn about biotech like I would, 652 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 4: I would have gave up because I don't understand that space. 653 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 4: So maybe it's where you work. 654 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 3: Maybe I had a. 655 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 4: Dental assistant, and you know more about the stuff that's 656 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 4: you know, involved in being a dental assistant. Maybe there's 657 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 4: products and companies there. Maybe you like you work in finances, 658 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 4: you know about financial company, but these that kind of thing. 659 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 4: So start with stuff that that you know and already understand, 660 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 4: because that'll help you to get going. 661 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: And then I will say, it's not just about you. 662 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 4: So if it helps you, cause we're so easy to 663 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 4: just throw ourselves to the back burner. 664 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 3: Oh I'll get to it. 665 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 4: Oh I've got to do this selves for someone else. 666 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 4: But you learning this, you learning how to trade or invest, 667 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 4: isn't just for you. It is for your children if 668 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 4: you have children, it's for your parents if you have. 669 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,719 Speaker 3: Of course you have parents. 670 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 4: But if you know it's for your it's for your parents, 671 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 4: but it's for everyone else. 672 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: And then think about you know, the impact you could 673 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 3: have in the world. 674 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 4: So it's not just about you, okay, So so definitely 675 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 4: take the time to learn this. 676 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: Okay. I love that, Tila, Thank you so much. You're 677 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: so awesome. So, Tila, if somebody wanted to follow you 678 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: on these interwebs, aside from like signing up for your trade, 679 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: your nine to five dot com class, if I wanted 680 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: to find you on social media, how can I do so? 681 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 4: I am Tila Holcom on Facebook and Instagram. 682 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: I'm not that great with Twitter, but I'm on there. 683 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: You could also find me at tilaholsome dot com. I 684 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 4: always recommend go through my free course first see if 685 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 4: I'm for you, because I know every teacher isn't for 686 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 4: every student, So check that out. See if you like 687 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 4: the way that I teach the information and just kind 688 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 4: of get your toes wet with learning about the stock market, 689 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 4: and then take it from there. 690 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: I love that, Tila, see you are unicorn, so no, 691 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: for real, like the fact that you even mentioned, like, 692 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, your free course for it first. That just 693 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean to me, I wish more folks in business 694 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: thought about, you know, making sure that folks that were 695 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: purchasing for them that it was really the right fit, 696 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: you know, versus like you know, pay pay pay pay me, 697 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: like that's not my business, whether it's a it's a 698 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: good match for you. I really wish that more people 699 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: like you know, ran their businesses from a place of 700 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: integrity where they understood that someone doesn't have to lose 701 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: for you to win. So I thank you for that. 702 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I do that a lot, and people I 703 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: guess they expect to be sold to for me, and 704 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, because my goal is to see you successful, 705 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 4: and if you're not at the step where this is 706 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 4: going to make you successful, I always recommend you, know, 707 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 4: maybe go to the step that is going to make 708 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 4: you successful and then come back to me. I had 709 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 4: a lady that she had some debt that she wanted 710 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 4: to pay off, and from the sounds of it, I 711 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 4: was like, hey, I would work on your debt first and. 712 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 3: Then come back to me and I'll be here, I 713 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 3: promise you. 714 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 4: And she was like, wow, I expected you to like 715 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 4: really try to push me in there, and I'm like, no, Like, 716 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 4: it wouldn't do you any justice to get in here 717 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 4: if you're not ready. 718 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 3: So I'm always I always do. 719 00:33:44,400 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: That, all right, guys. I hope that you enjoyed today's 720 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: Brown Ambition Special Guest. I hope that you feel empowered 721 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: to be able to invest in a different way. I 722 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: hope you're empowered to look into trading. You can go 723 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,959 Speaker 1: to tilahcme dot com and take her her free course 724 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: to see if it's right for you or if you're 725 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: like I'm ready now, you can certainly go to trade 726 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 1: You're a nine to five dot com and follow Tila 727 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: all over the interwebs, and we will see you next week. 728 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: Mandy will be back and black and brown and I 729 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: will be back and always black until then, Brown and 730 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: Bisson listeners, we love you. See Mandy's not here so 731 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: I can act all the way up. Don't tell her 732 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: that I was acting up, all right, Tila, Thank you, 733 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: Thanks