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Speaker 1: it also contains spoilers for the first two episodes of

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Speaker 1: Book of Boba Fette, which I like to call Bob.

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Speaker 1: So it contains spoilers for the first two episodes of

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Speaker 1: bob And so please watch those before you listen to this. Hello,

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Speaker 1: my name is Jason Concepcion. Welcome to the x ray

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Speaker 1: Vision Podcast, The Crooked Podcast, where we dive deep into

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Speaker 1: your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. In today's episode,

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Speaker 1: previously on just talk about New Year's, the holidays, and

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Speaker 1: go into the Airlock, which is a dive into the

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Speaker 1: Hawkeye finale with the great and wonderful Rosy Night. We

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Speaker 1: will do the omnibus on the history of Hawkeye and

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Speaker 1: the archetype of the noble bandit slash outlaw character that

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Speaker 1: where we discuss Book of Boba Fette episodes one and two,

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Speaker 1: Star Wars explained Alex and Mollie, and we will have

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Speaker 1: a very special nerd out by Naa Autabonnie on Attack

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Speaker 1: because of this segment. First up previously on Happy New

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Speaker 1: Year Everybody. I hope everybody got to spend time with

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Speaker 1: to see my family for the first time in two years.

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Speaker 1: My nephew is now almost four. And what did I

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Speaker 1: So that was really fun and it was just great

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Speaker 1: Mallory Rumina amount it. It's really been great. It's great

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Speaker 1: Right now is just to say I really loved it. Like,

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Speaker 1: we open with Wilson Fisk Crisp White Jacket on meeting

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Speaker 1: She would like to basically break up with the Kingpin.

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Speaker 1: At the Harper's apartment, Kate and Clint watched the video

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Speaker 1: Clinton Clint warns Kate that the Kingpin is Kingpin's not

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Speaker 1: What's going on with the Ronan hunt and all these

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Speaker 1: suspicious about the sudden change of heart. And Maya says,

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Speaker 1: of our various employers out there. The Kingpin Organization apparently

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Speaker 1: It was still nice. It was still nice to give him.

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Speaker 1: Sure, ye, but again I respect the PTO. Thank you, Kingpin,

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Speaker 1: Kingpin Organization for giving your employees PTO.

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Speaker 1: So after that, the Kingpin is like, yoh fuck that

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Speaker 1: this city needs to be reminded post blip of who

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Speaker 1: Wilson Fisk is. Okay, we know that's set up. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: back to Clinton and Kate, they need more arrows. They've

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Speaker 1: And the mission is Eleanor's holiday party, where all the

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Speaker 1: to make appearances. Clint needs to know that Kate is

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Speaker 1: ready for what's coming. Kate tells Clint how seeing him

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Speaker 1: fight the Chatari inspired her to become hero. She says

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Speaker 1: a great line to him, being a heroes for anyone

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Speaker 1: I'm ready at the party at Rock Center, Causing and

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Speaker 1: the Tracksuits are in position to assassinate Eleanor. Clinton cater

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Speaker 1: in full James Bond mode. They stroll in. They assess

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Speaker 1: the playing field. Where are our allies? What are we

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Speaker 1: seeing here? Kate is like it's looking good because the

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Speaker 1: see Jack holding a sword, as Clinton notes, Wait, wasn't

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Speaker 1: he just charged with murder by sword? And now he's

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Speaker 1: just like standing here, not in prison with a sword.

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Speaker 1: Weird vibe from Jack, but I respect the swagger.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, He's like, look, I'm innocent and I love swords

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Speaker 2: So I here and I've got a sword, just holding

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Speaker 1: Then uh. There follows a scene which I absolutely love

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Speaker 1: and in which Jack absolutely, he just like absolutely takes

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Speaker 1: a shit on a child for not having any taste

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Speaker 1: in the Hampton's An event. He makes sure to remind

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Speaker 2: Is like nine, he's like nine, maybe ten?

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Speaker 1: Like I love it, just on the seventh right, Just

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Speaker 1: a great window into Jack decade and that this guy's like, listen, kid,

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Speaker 1: I know that we're related kind of, but you don't

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Speaker 1: understand wine the way I do. So fuck off? Will you?

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Speaker 1: Will you? Please? Fuck off?

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Speaker 1: Clinton Kate Survella scene, Yolena arrives just as Eleanor is

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Speaker 1: then Kate shows Eleanor the Kingpin video and is like,

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Speaker 1: what is the deal with this? Eleanor says like, don't worry.

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Speaker 1: I got it sewed up, it's fine, and Kate is like,

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Speaker 1: there's multiple assassin's here trying to kill you, but okay. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Jack also wants to chat about the thing where she

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Speaker 1: framed him, so they have a tete at tet Outside,

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Speaker 1: Kazi takes a shot at Clint. But is Kazi one

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Speaker 1: of the many many like fail henchmen fail sons in

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Speaker 1: all of them. But Kazi is like all he does

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Speaker 1: And maybe that's it. Maybe the benefits card that allows

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 4: It was actually Dinofrio as well, like he has been

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Speaker 4: I really love is we get to see like real Kingpin,

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Speaker 4: If people don't like it because they've seen Dead Devil,

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Speaker 4: But I love crazy over superpowered Kingpin because that's how

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Speaker 4: he is in the comics.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly how it is.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Fargy, I've been, I've been. I want aware of

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Speaker 1: And it's all the thing you need to know about

432
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: the Kingpin is it looks like he's a heavy guy

433
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: and maybe a little portly, but that's all muscle. It's

434
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 1: just like bands. He's just like bands of pure muscle.

435
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: And so he can take a licking and he will

436
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: do that now. So he tears. First of all, he

437
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: tears the door off of Eleanor's luxury sedan, like with Ease.

438
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: And it's so scary.

439
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: Like with the Ease, Kate shows up and Kate is

440
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: going to protect her mount. Let's just go through the

441
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: litany of things that happens now to let you know

442
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: how crazy, crazy, hard to beat up the Cakefit is

443
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: she won is like, you know what, I've killed a

444
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: lot of people tonight. I didn't love doing it, but

445
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: I'm here to protect my mom. So kill shot on

446
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: the Kingpin. Send her mask right in the heart with

447
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: it with a legitimate arrow, and it doesn't even go

448
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: through layer like the the top epidermal layer, like the

449
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: Kingfit skin. Kibit is like Arah, he just like snaps

450
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: the arrow out. Okay. She then shoots him with a

451
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: cable arrow. He just catches it, whip smacks her into

452
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: the concrete. Then Eleanor is like, oh yeah, get away

453
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: from her, you bitch, and hits the Kingpin like at

454
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: fifty miles an hour with her car, throwing the Kingpin

455
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: all the way into Fao Schwartz. And we're like, man, Kingpin,

456
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: he's done. No, he's fine, don't worry, he will be fine,

457
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: absolutely fine. We cut back to Maya and Kazi. Maya,

458
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: still despite everything gonna happen, clearly still has a soft

459
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: spot for Kazi. Tries to convince Kazi, listen, let's break

460
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: away from the Kingpin. Let's do it together. I'm gonna

461
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: start my own thing, whatever that is. As echo come

462
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: with me, don't do this Kingpin stuff, and he's like no, okay.

463
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: So you know he's truly dumb, truly true. Say no

464
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: to Maya.

465
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 4: Why would you make anyone's made in the MCU. She's cool,

466
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 4: she's a badass fire. You two are gonna be fine.

467
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 4: You're obviously mesods. Like what does the Kingpin have to

468
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 4: offer you?

469
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 6: Why?

470
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: And now? So Maya is really forced into it. She

471
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: ends up killing Kazi, who, with his dying breath, is

472
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: like run, why are you even just shut up? She

473
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: was gonna do it, don't like, don't worry about it.

474
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: She had her own plan. You didn't want to know

475
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: what it was. You didn't want to leave the Kingpin,

476
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: and so here you are dying. So sorry Kazi, but like, shut.

477
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 2: Up, No PTO will help you now.

478
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Kate, after seeing the Kingpin get shot in the

479
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: heart and hit by a car, courageously soldiers forward to

480
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: continue to try to fight the Kingpin and delay him

481
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: from killing her mom. Fisk is a fucking tank. He

482
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: punches Kate through shelves full of Christmas toys various times.

483
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 1: She again, you have to respect. The courage goes in

484
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: for like a flying armbar which like, what did you

485
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: think was gonna happen? Finally, she flicks up a cuff

486
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: link at Fisk using the flipping coins method talked to

487
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: her by Clint Barton. At the magnetic arrow that is

488
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: lying on the ground, there's all these high tech arrows

489
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: that are like under the kingpin on the ground, and

490
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: she hits that arrow, which triggers all the other arrows

491
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: at a massive and I mean massive explosion of multiple

492
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: arrowheads goes off right under the Kingpin's balls and butt cheeks,

493
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: and the kingpin finally it takes that finally gets knocked unconscious.

494
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: He's chilling. Kate finds Eleanor. Eleanor is finally like, listen,

495
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for all this stuff, including framing my fiance,

496
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: including hiring Assasin to kill your hero. I know all

497
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: that was really tough. I had by reasons, but let's

498
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: just move past all of this. Kate is like, I

499
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: can't do that. And then the NYPD shows up, and.

500
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 2: Dude, I cannot believe she quote the police on my mom.

501
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: Eleanor Eleanor actually pulls the You're gonna have your mother

502
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: arrested on Christmas? You're gonna do this on give me

503
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: at least a day, or at least ask her New

504
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: Year is then called a you're you gonna do this

505
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: on Christmas?

506
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 7: Kate?

507
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 5: How dare you?

508
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: Clint is you know he's not going all out against Elena,

509
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: not that I think he could. I actually think Elena

510
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: would win in a full on fight.

511
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no question.

512
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: He is trying to convince her. Listen, I'm not to

513
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: blame for NAT's death. Elena is just battering him with

514
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: a collapsible baton and she's about to apply the grass.

515
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: She does her secret whistle as a message to her

516
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: beloved sister, and then Clint answers it. Elena is stunned

517
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: by this. It's a little bit of the Martha moment.

518
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: But that's fine. Yeah, and Elena this is sold because

519
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: Florence Pugh is amazing. Elena then has this emotional unburdening

520
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: where she talks about, you know, she didn't get to

521
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: spend any time with her sister, really like they were

522
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: kids together deep cover, and then they got separated and

523
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: bad stuff happened, and before she could reconnect with her,

524
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: she was dead. And Clint got to spend all this

525
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: time with her and she didn't. Elena brings Clint.

526
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 9: To his feet.

527
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Maya catches up with a limping after all that,

528
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: Wilson is just limping down the street, Maya, he's chilling.

529
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: Maya ambushes him and he tries to say, hey, we're

530
00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: for him. Maya. You and I. I know that I

531
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: had your best friend, I conspired with him to kill

532
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: your father. But just understand this. Understand, Maya, we are family.

533
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm a little banged up right now. I just had

534
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: explosives go off under my groin. Could you help me

535
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: back to the hide up bang. Maya shoots Kingpin, we

536
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: think because we don't actually see it on camera. The

537
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: camera goes up and we're not sure what happens.

538
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's like a direct reference to the Dead

539
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 4: Evil issue where Echo debuts, where we see Maya with

540
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 4: the Golden gun and she's got it to Kingpin's face.

541
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: So that's like very cool. And he's like, we have

542
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: to work together, Maya. We need each other. So it's

543
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: very It's really nice.

544
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 4: Something I love about this show is that I wasn't

545
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 4: expecting us how it's essentially like a backdoor origin for

546
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: Echo and the Echo Show. So yeah, like you say,

547
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: we don't see Kingpin die, you would assume if you're

548
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 4: an average TV watcher and somebody gets shot in the face,

549
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: yeah they're probably gonna die. But I feel like they

550
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 4: did enough in this epic said to let us know

551
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 4: that that's not really that, but it probably just picked

552
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 4: off his forehead.

553
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: Wendy invites Jack to join the LARPing community, with which

554
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: I think Jack which feels a little. I think Jack

555
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: would say this, not me. I love LARPing. I respect

556
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: all our LARPers, I respect all our cosplay crafts people

557
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: and artists and officionados. But Jack would probably say something

558
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: like this is a little low class for me, So

559
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: I would guess that he's gonna say no. Clint makes

560
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: it home for Christmas, and he brings Kate and Lucky

561
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: with him, warm introductions all around, warmer reunions. Then Clint

562
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: gives Laura the watch bomb bomb bum Really, We're right relieved.

563
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: Laura turns it over and on the back case we

564
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: see a shield logo and number nineteen. Guess what that means.

565
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: It means Laura is the MCU version of Bobby Morse

566
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: is shield age at nineteen The mocking Bird, And then

567
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: Clint says, I want you to take better care of

568
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: your stuff, which is like, come on, why are we

569
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: giving lessons right now?

570
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: Just I'm like, I'm sorry. I was in the Avengers.

571
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: Commed literally the most didn't you get that place blown up?

572
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: Right? The most secure place you could argue on the planet.

573
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: It took another invasion of the same guy, I'm the

574
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: same guy in order to get that my watch out

575
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: in the wild. So when you like, where is it

576
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: going to be in a fucking bank vault, Santo's gonna

577
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: waltzed in there easily, stop it.

578
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why he lost the Ronan suit is

579
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: whole pointed out, like who is to be judging what?

580
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 4: You could have got the Ronan suit, and you could

581
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: have got both of them, but you left them.

582
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: So I don't be talking to Laura not.

583
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: Clint calls Kate outside. He and Kate burn the Ronan suit,

584
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: which is evidence in hundreds of murders around the globe.

585
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: I'm sure she is now complicit, which is probably what

586
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 4: he wanted because he's blooming her to be a bad

587
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 4: murderer leading to this.

588
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: It's okay, we'll move as that, and they then go

589
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: back in debating what Kate's code name is going to

590
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: be and then we get the title card and we

591
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: know what it's gonna mean. It's gonna be Hawkeye. And

592
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: then we get the post credit scene, which we're not

593
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: going to talk about ever ever, other than to say

594
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: it is look full. I could do this all day.

595
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: A song from Rogers The Miracle. Okay, let's uh. You

596
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 1: know this how often happens with shows that have just

597
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: like a lot of threads, a lot of mcguffins, a

598
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: lot of missions happening. I think the thing that I

599
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: can't stop thinking about, and it's kind of like the

600
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: central catalyst for all of this is like why do

601
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: the track suits want to watch? Why did they Why

602
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: did they come there to steal the watch? I'm sure

603
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: this will be revealed later, but what do you think

604
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: I've been racking my brain about why they could possibly

605
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: have gone there to steal the watch.

606
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 4: It has to be something to do with like Kingpin

607
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 4: wants to know who Agent nineteen is for some reason,

608
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: maybe she had something on, but there's I think that

609
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 4: is like a really big good question, and also like

610
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 4: why did like why did they want to kill Hawkeye? Yeah,

611
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 4: you know, like that kind of stuff. So I just

612
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 4: think that's like there's a couple of questions there where

613
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 4: you're sort of like it works really well together when

614
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 4: you watch the whole thing, but then you're sort of like, hmm.

615
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: Also, my other.

616
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: Biggest point is like, because they get murdered a lot, right,

617
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 2: I think really that bad. We never saw them really

618
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: commit any crimes. Like literally all.

619
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 4: They do is just get involved with Hawkeye, who's trying

620
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 4: to kill them and who has killed a lot of them.

621
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: So I'm just like, I feel like we never really

622
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: see them doing anything bad.

623
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 4: We just believe that they're bad because Hawkay and Kate

624
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 4: are just constantly trying to kill them.

625
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: Apart from like, you know, they broke.

626
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 4: Into a black market auction, but it's already a black

627
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 4: market auction.

628
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's already a crime going on.

629
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: That was Also like so Eleanor is just like involved

630
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: in a like a party for a black market auction. Also,

631
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: it's like we're just rich people are just like stealing

632
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: and trading and stolen avengers goods, okay, I and weird

633
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: dinosaur skulls. I also also say about the tracksuits. I

634
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: think it was Tomas who was in Enrique, one of

635
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: the tracksuits, who the one who has having their girlfriend

636
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: problems who Kate helps him with. Like, they seem like

637
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: good guys, probably just having a tough time financially. They

638
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: fell in with the wrong crowd. I eat the Kingpin

639
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: and I hope they I hope they get their lives together,

640
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: and I hope they're all all right. The ones that

641
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: actually did survive the.

642
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 4: Classic would be okay, Like they're okay, they're just Henchi's.

643
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 4: You could have a funny like Henchy off a sitcom

644
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 4: where you're just like, yeah, he's just trying to get

645
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 4: tickets to imagine, Dragon also has to, like, you know,

646
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 4: fight this rown in guy.

647
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. Why do you think he

648
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: wants to watch?

649
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: I have no idea other than maybe in one of

650
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: her past missions, Laura either went undercover like or tangled

651
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: with the Kingpinn organization in some way that he became

652
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: aware of the watch. I'm not sure what that is.

653
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: There must be something of value about the watch that

654
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: they need. I'm sure. Here's the other thing. I'm sure

655
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: that there's like a room that Kevin Feige has like

656
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: a war room of like writers and creators right now

657
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: being like figure out oh yeah, figure out what the

658
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: watch is about. But I honestly am It's one of

659
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: those things where you can actually, like, it's very easy

660
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: to forget that the watch was actually the reason that

661
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: they went there because of the Roman suit was there,

662
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: and the sword is there and the dinosaur skull is there.

663
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, they went specific for the watch. So what

664
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: what what? I have no idea. I'm really interested to

665
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: see what they come up with it. I'm not sure.

666
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 4: I guess if they want to just do the easy thing,

667
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 4: they could just say they thought it was like one

668
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 4: of Tony Stark's watches, because he did have watches that

669
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: turned into.

670
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: You know, amor and stuff.

671
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 4: So I think if they wanted to, if they really

672
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 4: all of that was just to set up Laura as

673
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 4: Agent nineteen Mockingbird, then they could kind of be like, oh,

674
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 4: the Kingpin and the tracksuits actually thought it was the

675
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 4: Iron Man watch or whatever, so and all of that

676
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 4: was kind of a outrageous shenanigans for nothing.

677
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: I bet you you know what that's gonna be. I'll

678
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: bet what it is with Armor Wars coming. So Armor Wars,

679
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: which we would have imagined from the title adapted from

680
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: the storyline from the Ironman comics in which Stark has

681
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: to go out and like reclaim a bunch of stolen

682
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: Stark tech that Aim and Hydra and various other baddies

683
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: have stolen from him. I bet you this is some

684
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: I bet you're right. And this is some kind of

685
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: precursor to Armor Wars, in which there is just a

686
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: mad scramble in the underworld for anything that came out

687
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: of any kind of Stark building. And so the Ronan

688
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: stuff was like, yeah, nobody cares about the Ronan suit

689
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: like that doesn't have Stark tech.

690
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's his personal right.

691
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: But we know that we know Tony love bracelets and

692
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: his bracelets turned to homing beacons for Iron Man stuff,

693
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: and we know Tony had sunglasses that controlled trillions of

694
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: dollars worth of weaponry. I bet you the watch did something.

695
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: Let's stay yeah.

696
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 4: And also he actually has you know, he's been involved

697
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 4: with Shield for so long. Why wouldn't he maybe have

698
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: been he created a watch or a blueprint for a

699
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 4: watch that the mocking Birds if it's like more than

700
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: one person or Shield we're using. And I think you're right,

701
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: Armor Wars seems to be being sprinkled in now, you know,

702
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 4: with even with like Electro and Spider Man having the

703
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 4: Stark Tech on his chest. And I love that original

704
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 4: arc like David Mattolini, Bob Layton who's like an Iron Man,

705
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 4: g By Mark de Bright, and Barry wins A Smith

706
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 4: who's like a total icon.

707
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: This is so cool, and.

708
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 4: I love that they're gonna do it where it's Rody

709
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 4: who has to try and get this Stark Tech back

710
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 4: from these nefarious places. So yeah, I actually think we

711
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 4: might have in this hilarious conversation, just I think you're right,

712
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 4: they got to start sprinkling in the ideas of nefarious

713
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 4: people having Stark Tech because we need that to be

714
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 4: happening before armorwars can occur.

715
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: I think we have. We might have stumbled over cracked it.

716
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: We cracked it. Do you think we're done with Hawkeye

717
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: Jeremy Runner like for the foreseeable future, I would imagine

718
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: we'll see him sprinkled in. Yeah, but I think that

719
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: this might be the end, you know, for him as

720
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: they assemble the new Avengers team and we know that

721
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: young Avengers are coming, I think this might be the

722
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: end for him as like an active.

723
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: I think so.

724
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 4: I think it could. I think it could be fun.

725
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 4: I think like the way we always said, you know,

726
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 4: having Linda as has his wife seemed kind of weird,

727
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 4: so it's really cool. She's gonna be mocking bad. What

728
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 4: could be really fun is like if they inverted it,

729
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 4: where if they need a member of that family. She

730
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 4: is out as a hero and he is at home

731
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: finally looking after his kids after like ten years of

732
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 4: just looking after.

733
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 2: Them by herself. Like that, I'm like, let Jeremy Renner

734
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: be there. He's had his moment.

735
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: We bought this to life, this unbelievable comic that so

736
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: many people love from Fraction in aar and it was

737
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 4: really great and it gave him this really good goodbye,

738
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 4: and I think, yeah, I think that's the end of

739
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 4: him as an active suit. But you know, they seem

740
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 4: to be really interested in eulogizing Black Widow, so.

741
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: He could come back to that.

742
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 4: We might see some some moments of him remembering her.

743
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 4: But I think it would be really cool if if

744
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 4: there's going to be an active bar and now it's

745
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 4: Laura or it's Kate. You know, we know she's Hawkeye now,

746
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 4: and if Clint's in there, it's more of a Oh,

747
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 4: he's at home looking after the kids, or oh he's

748
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: doing this rather than you know, killing a bunch of.

749
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: People in.

750
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: Where We Go Next? Obviously Doctor Stranger, the Multiverse Menace

751
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: is coming, four Love and Thunder coming, various other Disney

752
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: Plus properties on MCU. What do you think this leads to?

753
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: What is we? We just again? We cracked it. We

754
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: cracked the Armour Wars connection. We think we're going there,

755
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: But where do you see us heading? What are the

756
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: seeds that are in this?

757
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 4: I think part of the reason this show actually exists,

758
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 4: which I kind of didn't. I didn't really see because

759
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 4: I I love we Love we both love that fraction

760
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 4: Aha harky book and stuff so good. But like I

761
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 4: did think it was a It was an unexpected choice,

762
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 4: even though I know they wanted to introduce Kate Bishop

763
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 4: because it feels kind of homey and like fun and weird,

764
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 4: and that.

765
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: Is how the show was.

766
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 4: I think the real point of this show, or the

767
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 4: kind of if we're talking about the overarching story, was

768
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: more focused on reintroducing those Netflix Deare Devil characters into

769
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 4: the MCU. I think it's gonna be echo. I think

770
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 4: that is the net. I think that's really what this is.

771
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 4: I think Echo is going to be a space for

772
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 4: not only Kingpin to return. I definitely think he's still alive,

773
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 4: but they could do something along the lines of, you

774
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 4: don't know if he's alive, and there's an overarching villain

775
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 4: and at the end they reveal it's him.

776
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 2: But I think they might go a little bit more.

777
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: Obvious because Dinofrio is such a get and now that

778
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: we know, you know, spoiler alert for Spider Man, but

779
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: now that we know that Charlie Cox is back, I

780
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 4: think that Echo.

781
00:41:59,080 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: I think Echo is.

782
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 4: This essentially the big lead on from this is Echo

783
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 4: having her own season, which is so amazing. Again another choice.

784
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 4: I was impressed slash surprised about Disney giving like a

785
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 4: death indigenous character who's also they have now written in

786
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 4: having an ampu leg difference because of a lack quill,

787
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 4: which I just think is so fucking cool. So to

788
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 4: have this like disabled death indigenous hero getting their own series,

789
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 4: I was like, Wow, this is too much. I can't

790
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 4: believe Disney is doing this. But now I also realize,

791
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, it's a really really smart, easy way

792
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 4: for them to seed in Dinofrio Charlie Cox.

793
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: I think we will see Foggy. I think we'll see Karen.

794
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 4: Vincent has been like tweeting a lot about how amazing

795
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 4: you know Karen Pages and how Debraham Wall, who brings

796
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 4: her to life, is like one of his favorite collaborators,

797
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 4: and he's kind of definitely trying to tweet force Disney

798
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 4: in something.

799
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: That's already happening.

800
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 4: But like so, I think Echo is going to be

801
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 4: about Echo, And I think the career team that they

802
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 4: have on there is so incredible, Like this really incredible

803
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 4: death writer and actor called Shashana who was in Supernatural

804
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: and made this show called This Close, who I just

805
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 4: absolutely adore. She has been working on the show. So

806
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 4: they have rad creators that are going to send an echo.

807
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: But I think in the long term that's going to

808
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 4: be a soft relaunch for Dead Evil Netflix. I mean,

809
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 4: the casting is so good, like you can't deny it,

810
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: but the Netflix tone, you can't bring it in wholesale

811
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 4: to Disney Plus, So you've got to have a space

812
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 4: where you can do a mixed kind of version of both.

813
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that you're right. In my head canon,

814
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: Wilson Fisk leaves here injured, fakes his own death much

815
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: like the comics. He goes to Europe or something, meets

816
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: another family, falls in love, and then gets sucked back

817
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: into the life somehow, maybe runs from Mayor who knows.

818
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, that could also work for an Armor

819
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 4: Wars type situation and have all these different criminals at

820
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 4: these different levels, and Rody's just the only person being like,

821
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 4: what the fuck is guy?

822
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: Is anybody gonna do anything? Like? Do I have to

823
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: do all of this? I also wonder, you know, those

824
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: comics dealt with Roady's so in the comics, Stark controlled

825
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: his Iron Man suit via brain waves, but he hadn't

826
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: they hadn't been adjusted specifically for Roady, and he started

827
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: to experience some headaches and some negative effects from that. Obviously,

828
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: he was grievously injured in Civil War. But I do

829
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: wonder if we get any if there is more of

830
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: a cost to you know, we've explored that a lot

831
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: in Hawkeye, both the comics and this series, with the

832
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: kind of toll on Clint's body. I wonder if we

833
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: get some more of like the cost of wearing the

834
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: armor as we dive into the Armor Wars.

835
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be really that would be really interesting too.

836
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 4: And I really hope that they go full in on

837
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 4: Roady being iron Man, which is in the comics not

838
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: being Iron Patriot, not being any iron Man. And I

839
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 4: think that that's a really interesting point. All these shows

840
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 4: where it's essentially been a goodbye or a continuation, even

841
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 4: Black Widow, you know, to an extent of the characters

842
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 4: that kind of their stories ended or seem to end

843
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 4: an endgame.

844
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: A lot of it has been about.

845
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 4: This the trauma of war, the trauma of being a hero,

846
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,479
Speaker 4: getting over the things that you've done or the things

847
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 4: you didn't do, And I would really like to see that.

848
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: I would love if part of something they could bring

849
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 4: in there would be like in the comics, Roady's actually

850
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 4: like a he's like a pacifist after being in the law,

851
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 4: kind of the same way that Sam Wilson's actually not

852
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 4: an army guy, he's a social worker. So I'd love

853
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: if part of that maybe comes from you know, Rody

854
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 4: wants peace and he wants to not be this militarized hero,

855
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 4: but he's in this space where he also has to

856
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 4: save this Stark tech from.

857
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: Being used by bad people.

858
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 4: I think there's some really cool stuff there, and if

859
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 4: we're talking about long term as well or what this

860
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: could lead to, you know, West Coast Avengers.

861
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna happen. I think it's gonna happen.

862
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 4: I also think they might do something where the first

863
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 4: Avengers on the West Coast is actually the Young Avengers,

864
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 4: because like in the comics, Kate goes to La at

865
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 4: the end and she kind of sets up there, and

866
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 4: it just seems like, even though they've done a lot

867
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 4: of fun teaseres to West Coast Avengers, even in this

868
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 4: you know, they had Greer is her friend, who's Tiger,

869
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 4: you know, stuff like that.

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00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: I feel like it's gonna be a little.

871
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 4: Bit more of an amalgam of this kind of idea

872
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 4: of this young new heroes on the West Coast who

873
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 4: are kind of taken the space of the Avengers.

874
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: Will they be called the Young Avengers? Will they be

875
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: called West Coast Avengers? I don't know.

876
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 4: But with armorwas coming, West Coast Avengers is a big

877
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 4: part of that as well, So I think we could

878
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: be seeing that in our future.

879
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: I agree with you mostly because I really hope that happens.

880
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: The West Coast Avengers, that is, the Young Avengers with

881
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: this kind of like Runaways young heroes figuring it out

882
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: like on the fly kind of vibe would be so

883
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: so so fun and exciting.

884
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 4: And it would be so visually different, like you could

885
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 4: really have you could have this really.

886
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: Fun visual landscape.

887
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 4: Of La of the beaches of that Runaways kind of

888
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 4: like finding a hideaway, like where's the secret location? Or

889
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 4: you know, because they introduced Kate's aren't who in the

890
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 4: comics is the founder Moira of Well, she's one of

891
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 4: the founders because she gives them the location. Maybe Moira

892
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 4: just leaves her palace Verdez. It's just banging around this

893
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 4: huge mansion, like.

894
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: Right, Kate will just be like, actually we need a headquarters.

895
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: Guess what my aunt just like left me her. Yeah,

896
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: the old movie star a state over at palace for

897
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: I think, I really know.

898
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: That would be so fun.

899
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: It'd be really really fun. Rosie, this was really fun.

900
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: Thanks for getting together to talk about this, you know, belatedly.

901
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: Where can people find you and your offerings?

902
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 4: You can find me on Instagram, Rosie mark So I

903
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: talked about this podcasts a lot. You can find me

904
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 4: at nerdist Ign, Polygon, and of Geek all kinds of places,

905
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 4: writing about this kind of stuff, writing about comics that

906
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 4: are going to be coming out. There's kind of a

907
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 4: funny break in the next couple of months Marvel stuff.

908
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 4: So I'm going to get to be writing about some

909
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 4: weirdest stuff, some movies, TV books, films, that kind of

910
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 4: fun stuff. I'm going to have an announcement soon about

911
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 4: a new comic that's going to be really exciting that

912
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 4: I'm writing, and so I will tease that. So keep

913
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 4: your eyes peeled. And yeah, it was such a joy

914
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 4: to be here. I love talking about this stuff. I'm

915
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: really excited to see what we're going to talk about

916
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 4: as we go into the next couple of months without Marvel.

917
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: Yes, Rosie, thank you so much. Up next to the omnibus,

918
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: let's open up another chapter in the omnibus where Laura,

919
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: Analysis and understand this come together. This week Stuck about

920
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: Clint Barton. Clint Barton made his debut Entails of Suspense,

921
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: number fifty seven, cover dated September nineteen sixty four, written

922
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: by st and Lee, illustrated by the great and very

923
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: underrated Don Heck. Tale Suspense was like an anthology series

924
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: which basically served as like a launch point for the

925
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: Iron Man Solar Titles Captain America's Solar titles. When we

926
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: meet Clint Barton, the self proclaimed greatest marksman in the

927
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: world has ever known. He is working at the Coney

928
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: Island Circus, wearing a fringed frontier style jacket and just

929
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: getting brutally fucking owned and roasted like mercilessly by the

930
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: carnival's clearly very discerning audience. They are just shitting on

931
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: him constantly. Big deal, So we hit the target. What

932
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: a crummy act, says one person. Come on, get that

933
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 1: bum off the stage and bring all the dancing girls,

934
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: says another. All right, chill out. To be fair to them,

935
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: and I don't want to be but to be fair

936
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: to them. If you look at it, if you ever

937
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: go back and read this comic, you look at the

938
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: panel illustrated by Don Heck so wonderfully illustrated, Like Clint

939
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: is hitting targets that are like five feet away. It's

940
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: not even like it's not even like far away. There's

941
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: a very little space in Coney Island, if you've ever

942
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: been down to that midway, He's hitting targets that are

943
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: like on the other side of the room. It really

944
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: is not that big a deal anyway. Tony Stark and

945
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: Pepper are on a date at the circus because of

946
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: some truly trademark Marvel Silver Age drama misunderstanding into which

947
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: Tony meant to ask Pepper out for happy but then

948
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: she thought he was asking her out anyway. When a

949
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: circus ride fails, Iron Man appears out of nowhere. Holy shit,

950
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: Ironmn is here. What are you doing here, buddy? I

951
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: thought you work for Tony Stark. Yes, he's here, because

952
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: he's here on a date and he's secretly Tony Stark.

953
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: He saves the day. Everybody's like, wow, that was so amazing.

954
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: That was so much better than this shitty archer who

955
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 1: hits stuff from five feet away. And Clint is seething.

956
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: So he goes home that night, you know, because here

957
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: he is like this guy. He's working and slaving, showing

958
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 1: some of the greatest marksman skills the world has ever seen,

959
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: and people just don't respect it. They don't like it.

960
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,479
Speaker 1: Why because he's not wearing a costs Guess what. Clint

961
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: goes home and he decides to do something about it.

962
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: He makes a costume all in one night, the classic

963
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: purple and black number with the h on the forehead

964
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: and the iconic like kind of horn rim goggles. He

965
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: makes some trick arrows and he gets right into the

966
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: superhero game that night. He makes all this stuff like

967
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: in an hour, and then he goes out and has

968
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 1: an adventure that very night, well a kind of an adventure.

969
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: He foils a Julie storeheist, but then the cops think

970
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: that he was stealing the jewels, and then so he

971
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: goes on the run. Who should drive by as he

972
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: is running from the police. Natasha Romanov, Soviet deep cover

973
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: agent known as the Black Widow. She's like, hey, jump in,

974
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 1: handsome and they drive away. Now. Nat made her comics

975
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: debut only five issues earlier. Also entails the suspense, and

976
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: you know it's a very compact, not very deep, you know,

977
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 1: story about a secret agent. He uses her feminine wiles

978
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: in a way that is like not good when you

979
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: read it. In twenty twenty one, that set Nat and

980
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: Clint are together, and in Clint's very first appearance in

981
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: Marvel Comics, that we have that alliance with the Black Widow,

982
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: which has carried through obviously through decades and through comics,

983
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: TV and movies. So it turns out nat was also

984
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: at the circus, I guess, just hanging out taking in

985
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: the sights and scenes, and it was just lucky for

986
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: her that Ironman also showed up, because she has been

987
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: trying to take down iron Man on behalf of the

988
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: USSR ever since she appeared in Marvel Comics. Now, she

989
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: takes Clint to her house out in the country and

990
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: she shares some top secret Russian aerotech with her. I

991
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: guess the Russian just she just has like this book

992
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: of like schematics of like various weapons that like the

993
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: Soviet super scientists and like weapons like arms masters like

994
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: created and I guess some of it is like crazy

995
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: aero stuff. So he's like, oh wow, this is perfect

996
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: for me. So then Clint, with the connivance of Natasha,

997
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: then decides to act against iron Man, and Clint does

998
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 1: actually pretty well, Like he hits Ironman with a rust arrow,

999
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: which causes iron Man to retreat from the field. Later on,

1000
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: in the big fight at the end of the story,

1001
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: Clint domes iron Man with an explosive arrow that puts

1002
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: Tony on concussion protocol. He has to go into the

1003
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: tent and they look at it and then this allows

1004
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: Hawkeye to escape with an injured nat and Natasha unfortunately

1005
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: is very much just like a catalyst slash passinger in

1006
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: this story. Anyway, after a couple more clashes and a

1007
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: couple more episodes that basically follow the same format, Hawkeye

1008
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: is motivated by his feelings slash concern for Natasha, attempts

1009
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: to steal Stark Tech, and he goes toe to toe

1010
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: with shell heead and it goes pretty well, and then

1011
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: he escapes that They all follow that format after this,

1012
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: the Avengers induct Hawkeye into the team as a full

1013
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: fledged member and Avengers number sixteen covered in May nineteen

1014
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: sixty five. This is actually really funny too, because for

1015
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, Clint Barton was like a criminal,

1016
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 1: really misunderstood basically guy, but like essentially a criminal hunted

1017
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: by the cops. And then like he goes through a

1018
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: full government like background check like in one panel, and

1019
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: they're like, good to go, you can join the Avengers,

1020
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: and he does. Now, the Hawkey we know from the

1021
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: MCU is really quite different from the Hawkey of the

1022
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: first two and a half decades of Marvel Comics history.

1023
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 1: Early Clint Barton was the wit you know the loud

1024
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: mouth very much in the Peter Parker mole, big personality

1025
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: with a quiver full of comebacks and basically a jerk,

1026
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: like he has said this in the comics number something

1027
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: that was kind of a jerk back then, but a

1028
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: necessary jerky counterweight as a member of the Avengers to

1029
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: the tightly wound non sex haver Steve Rogers, who then

1030
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: was the leader of the team. With iron Man out

1031
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: of the frame, iron Man had retired, which opened up

1032
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: a spot, and which is why Hawkeye joined Marvel's nineteen

1033
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: eighty three Hawkeye for issue limited series pushed Clint's character

1034
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: into new areas of vulnerability, and it's really great. Written

1035
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: and penciled by the late great Mark Runwald, with inks

1036
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: by Brett Breeding and Danny Bolinatti and colors by Bob

1037
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: Sharon and Christy Shield, the story really laid the groundwork

1038
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 1: for the character, truly character redefining work of Matt Fraction

1039
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: and David Aya's solo Hawkeye series from about twenty years later.

1040
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: Quick word about Grunwald, his influence is all over the

1041
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 1: Disney plus stuff. Falcon in the Winter Soldier is based

1042
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: in part on his sharp and underrated run on Captain

1043
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: America from nineteen eighty five to nineteen eighty five. A

1044
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff with like the US Agent who

1045
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: he created and the flag smashers, that's all from his stuff.

1046
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: Writer and director David S. Goyer, the showrunner of Foundation

1047
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: and also like writer and director of various comic book properties,

1048
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: including Blade, including Batman, versup On and on, was a reader.

1049
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: There's like a famous letter of his that made the

1050
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: mail bag and was answered by Grunwald that made the

1051
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: Internet rounds some time ago. It's really great. It's in

1052
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six as Captain America three twenty four comics Legends.

1053
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: Walt Simonson, penciler and writer who had a famous run

1054
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: on Thor and also Fantastic four, and the great artist

1055
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: Salbassima created a Time Variants Authority who we spent a

1056
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: lot of time with Loki, and they staffed that comics

1057
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: version of the Interdimensional Bureaucracy with basically clones of Grunwald.

1058
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: They just basically when they created the Time Variants Authority,

1059
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: everybody who worked there is basically clones of Mark Runwald,

1060
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: including mister Mobius, who is designed specifically look like Mark.

1061
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: One of the stars of Loki, of course, played by

1062
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: the ever charming Owen Wilson. This is because Mark was

1063
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: like the canon guy, the lore expert, the person who

1064
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: creators at Marvel would turn to as executive editor and say, hey,

1065
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: can I do this? And Mark would say, no, you

1066
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: can't do that because Spider Man ripped his costume in

1067
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, Spider Man sixty five, So therefore that can't happen,

1068
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. Grunwold's Hawkeye series introduced Clint's

1069
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: relationship with Bobby Morse aka Mockingbird, who he just met

1070
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: in the finale, although not as Bobby Morris as Laura Barton.

1071
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: Clint's hearing is also permanently damaged during the climactic fight

1072
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: in issue number four, the final issue of the limited series,

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Speaker 1: and that detail carried over to the pages of the

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00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: Avengers when Clinton the rest of the team appeared, and

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00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: a was essentially like a fun one off bottle issue

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00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: Avengers number two thirty nine, in which the Avengers all

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00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: appear on Late Night with David Letterman. That small detail

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00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: provided the entry point for fraction in Aya's really humanizing

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00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: work found in their twenty twelve Hawkeye solo title. I

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00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: had never seen that before. Fraction told Ew recently superheroes

1081
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: would always get better, superheroes would always be better next month.

1082
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: It was a beautiful moment of oh, right, the regular

1083
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: guy has real and lasting damage, which has been such

1084
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: a big part of the way the character is portrayed now.

1085
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: Like previous Clint Barton was like leaping around firing arrows

1086
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: and roasting people, this Clint Barton is like, I'm beat up.

1087
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: I need to put frozen peas on my bruises. And

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00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: I understand what regular people are going through because I'm

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00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: a regular person too. And that was a really really

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00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: important moment for the character. And really, I mean, if

1091
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: you really look at it, it wasn't until that series,

1092
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: the Fraction and II series, that Hawkeye really gelled as

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00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: a character, because he's always been kind of like a side,

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00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: very very tertiary character. In nineteen sixty nine, a few

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00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: years after Hawkeye's comics debut, English historian Eric Hobsbaum published Bandits,

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00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: which is an overview of outlaws, robbers, and avengers who

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00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: do their various kinds of lawbreaking for the people. This

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00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: includes figures such as the Scottish outlaw and folk here

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00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: Rob Roy McGregor, the Hungarian brigand and revolutionary Sandor Rosa,

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00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: and of course Robinhood, the most famous outlaw in the

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00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: English language tradition, and of course a major influence on Hawkeye,

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00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: and a major influence on basically every other pop cultural

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00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: figure who wields a bow and arrow right, and specifically

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00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: the kind of you know, depiction of Robinhood is this swashbuckling,

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00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: kind of like Douglas Fairbanks, Errol Flynn type character. We're

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00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: talking DC's green arrow Catnus Everdeen, Legoless Meredith from Pixar,

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00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. And in the fifties

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00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: hobbs Bamb had noticed that quote exactly the same stories

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00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: and myths were told about certain types of bandits as

1110
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: bringers of justice and social redistribution all over Europe. Indeed,

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00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: it became increasingly clear all over the globe. In Hobsbam

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00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: defines this Robinhood character as quote the noble robber the

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00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: criteria for which are they turned to law breaking due

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01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: to injustice or persecution by the authorities. They are selfless,

1115
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: ie e. They steal from the rich to give to

1116
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: the poor. The noble robber does not kill, but in

1117
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: self defense or for just revenge. You killed my mom,

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01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: you killed my kid, You are about to blow up

1119
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: the entire world. Therefore I can kill you. They are

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Speaker 1: members of a community. Think about the way Peter Parker

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01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: is very, very ostentatiously and aggressively from New York and

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01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: loves to talk about it. That is but one example

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Speaker 1: of these kind of law breaking bandits who are part

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Speaker 1: of a larger community. Clint came from the circus. He

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01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: had that circus culture in his blood. At least in

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01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: the comics version. They are admired. They break the law.

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01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: They are criminals, but they are admired by quote, the people.

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01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: They only die through betrayal, through treason, since quote no

1129
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: decent member of the community would help the authorities against them.

1130
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: They are invisible, you know the words anonymous. They melt

1131
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: into the community, or they wear some sort of you know,

1132
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: anonymizing garb. And then finally they right wrongs. And they

1133
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: are not necessarily against authority though they break the rules, right,

1134
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: they're not against the president, the king, the constitution, or whatever.

1135
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: What they are against is the way ideals are perverted

1136
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: by mental management. You have to understand that a lot

1137
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Speaker 1: of these outlaw figures and the legends that created them

1138
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: come from a time, you know, hundreds of years ago,

1139
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: centuries of time ago. The first mentions of Robinhood appear

1140
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: in the fourteenth century, during a time when yes, a

1141
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: king or a figure like a king ruled, but your

1142
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: entire like reality is everything that you could walk to

1143
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: in a day, right, so there will be vast amounts

1144
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: of the country that were ruled by governors or military

1145
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: leaders or different people. And often in these kind of

1146
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: bandit tales, it is you know, the sheriff of Nottingham

1147
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: who is doing the things that the king doesn't know

1148
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: about out that is the wrong that needs to be righted.

1149
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: And it struck me as I was like researching this

1150
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: that superheroes in the comic tradition, the Cape superhero tradition,

1151
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: are very much these modern day versions of these noble bandits.

1152
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: They break the law, they do all these things that

1153
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: are illegal all the time, as we have talked about

1154
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: numerous times in this podcast, but they are admired by

1155
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: the people. They wear disguises so they can never be

1156
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: prosecuted for their crimes. But they're also doing this because

1157
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: somebody needs to protect people, and that it's not clear

1158
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: that the government or the other authorities who are really

1159
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: it's their job to do it, are capable of doing it,

1160
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: and therefore they must, but they have to do it

1161
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: secretly and from the protection of their own community, be

1162
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: that New York in general, be that the alien planet

1163
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: that they come from, or whatever. Be it Superman being

1164
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: just like a regular Joe from Kansas, etc. And I

1165
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: think it's really fun to realize that this is a

1166
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: kind of like tradition and storytelling that applies to Kate

1167
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: and Clint and all these characters that we know now,

1168
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: but also stretches back to the beginning of serialized storytelling

1169
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: and the oral tradition. Up next, The Hive Mind. Welcome

1170
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: to the Hive Mind, where we bring on expert guests

1171
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: to discuss topic in more detail. And I could not

1172
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: possibly imagine two more expert guests. Alex and Molly from

1173
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: Star Wars explained a great YouTube channel if you want

1174
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: to know more about Star Wars, if you want to

1175
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: spend time with really wonderful people who know a lot

1176
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: about Star Wars and explain it in a way that

1177
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: makes you feel like you're not dumb for not knowing

1178
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: a lot about Star wars. Please subscribe. They're fantastic and

1179
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: they're here to talk to us about the first two episodes.

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Speaker 1: The Book of Boba fet streaming now on Disney Plus.

1181
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: Alex Amale, thank you for joining.

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01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 9: Us, Thanks so much, very nice of you to say.

1183
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 8: I watched Yeah, thanks for having us.

1184
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: I love y'all.

1185
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 9: I watched y'all all the time.

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01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: So a book AFT. Let's do a quick recap episode one,

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01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: since we didn't we were off last couple of weeks.

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01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We open in Java's palace, which IST's palace. We as

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Speaker 1: you as you both have knowned, it's weird to be like, oh,

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01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: this is uh, this is Boba's house. Now. We get

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01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,959
Speaker 1: some flashbacks as he's marinating in the bacta. We get

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01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: to meet some of the cast of characters that are

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01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,479
Speaker 1: going to be present here, including Garca Whipp, who's kind

1195
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: of flee uh power broker in town in the canteena

1196
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: uh Fennix Shand is doing incredible work as Boba's deputy.

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Speaker 1: We meet Doc Strassi, who is the uh the Mayor's

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01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: major domo and is a fent plastic the oily character.

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Speaker 1: And then we meet the Gamorian guards. It's great to

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Speaker 1: see them again after so much time. Boba refuses to

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01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: execute them and they enlist with him. What do you

1202
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: think about episode one before we move on to episode

1203
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: two for the deeper recap, how'd you like episode.

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01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 9: One if we're talking about it in a vacuum. Yes,

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01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 9: after watching the first episode, yes, I was a little

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01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 9: bit underwhelmed. I can touch on that again after we

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01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 9: get to episode two, But just watching the first one,

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01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 9: I was a little bit like, you know, this is

1209
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 9: not what I thought it was going to be. And

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Speaker 9: I do think that that's an adjustment that I go

1211
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 9: through for many Star Wars stories. A lot of them

1212
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 9: aren't exactly what I thought, and so I'm just like, Okay,

1213
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 9: I got to reset my mind to what it actually is.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the first episode, there's I feel like there's just

1215
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 8: a lot to set up for the show. So the

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01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 8: first one, a lot of people were kind of like, oh,

1217
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 8: I don't know, you know, but not to move on

1218
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 8: to the second one too quickly. But I like how

1219
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 8: they're setting everything up with Boba fet and it's really

1220
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 8: cool to see everything that's going on on tattooing right

1221
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 8: now and you're not really sure, like who's exactly in charge,

1222
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Speaker 8: Like we're supposed to think this mayor person is in charge,

1223
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 8: but does he actually have any power? And everybody's kind

1224
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 8: of like patting Boba Fet on the head like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a prime Yeah you're doing great.

1226
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I felt the same way as both of y'all. Although

1228
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: I agree this is kind of this is kind of

1229
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: the cadence of new Star Wars stuff where you're like, Okay,

1230
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't know necessarily what the hook is, where they're

1231
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: going with it, what the emotional through line is it

1232
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: so with it, So there's really a processing time with

1233
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: whatever the first episode is. I felt the same way

1234
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: about bad Batch, where we going, what are we going

1235
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Speaker 1: to do? Mandalorian even I felt the same way. And

1236
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Speaker 1: then with Boba Fet. You know, Boba Fet has such

1237
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: a huge impact on many Star Wars fans lives, myself included,

1238
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: there was not a lot of material when you know

1239
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: on Boba Fet, like as who he is, where he

1240
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: came from before the prequel movies, and so it's like

1241
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: he just occupies all this real estate in my mind

1242
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: and having that match what was happening on the screen.

1243
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 1: It just took some time to process. But I will

1244
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: say I like, and we'll talk about this as we

1245
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: get an episode two. I really like that we're expanding

1246
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: from oh, Boba Fett is just a badass, just kind

1247
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: of like a silent badass. Like I like that they're

1248
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: going much deeper than that, Like he's not just a

1249
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: hard ass fighter warrior, bounty hunter. There's more Tuman. In fact,

1250
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Speaker 1: he's trying to expand past that. Okay, episode yeah two,

1251
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Speaker 1: which I really I was gonna go ahead, I.

1252
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Speaker 9: Was gonna just say something about you compared it to

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01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 9: The Andalorian, and I totally agree. The first episode of

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01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 9: The Mandalorian, I was kind of like, this is not

1255
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Speaker 9: what I thought it would be at all. Yeah, I

1256
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 9: guess it was a little bit. I was like, the

1257
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 9: action scene at the end was cool. I was still adjusting.

1258
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Speaker 9: But then you had that baby Yoda. Everyone is like,

1259
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 9: everyone's like, oh my gosh, Like we were talking about that,

1260
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Speaker 9: and I just felt like the first episode of Boba

1261
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 9: Fett didn't have that moment. Yeah. I also fully agree

1262
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 9: with you about like we grew up with Boba Fett

1263
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 9: reading Legends stories and now that this is going to

1264
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 9: be a completely different story than what we grew up reading.

1265
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Speaker 9: So I think a lot of people have those expectations

1266
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Speaker 9: as well, where they're like, this isn't my Boba Fette.

1267
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 9: It's kind of like that's not my Luke Skywalker all

1268
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 9: over again. Yeah, we're seeing a new interpretation of the character.

1269
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

1270
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:55,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, we don't really know what Boba Fett's personal personality

1271
01:08:55,640 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 5: is other than what he was like in the Clone Wars,

1272
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 5: So yeah, we're getting to know him a little bit better.

1273
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. That Baby Yoda hook just as a quick as side.

1274
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: I was working at the Ringer at that time, and

1275
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,759
Speaker 1: just like as a kind of barometer for the craze

1276
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 1: of Baby Yoda and how immediately emotionally attached so many

1277
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: people were as soon as you saw that fifty year

1278
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 1: old baby with people at the Ringer who are not

1279
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: Star Wars fans were like, hey, you know, because some

1280
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: people had had the opportunity to interview Fabreau and it

1281
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: seemed like me it was potentially in the cards to

1282
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: like go tour the sets. People who were not Star

1283
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 1: Wars fans were like, listen, if you get an opportunity

1284
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: to see the baby Yoda Yoda puppet, please take a

1285
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: picture of it for me, Like I desperately need to

1286
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 1: see it. I want to see it. If you get

1287
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 1: to see Baby Yoda, and if you can take me,

1288
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: like also, please take me. I mean it was amazing.

1289
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: So Baby Yoda is like, we may never see the

1290
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 1: like of that again. It was amazing.

1291
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 3: Okay.

1292
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 9: It took Molly. I'll say it took Molly a few

1293
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 9: episodes before she started to like Baby Yoda. I think

1294
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 9: she still doesn't really like Baby Yoda. It's weird. She's

1295
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 9: the only one I would I.

1296
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 5: Would cry if I ever got to meet the actual puppet.

1297
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 5: I would just be in tears.

1298
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: It's it's a special thing for me, okay. Book of

1299
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,480
Speaker 1: Boba vet Uh, Chapter two, Tribes of Tattooing written by Favreau,

1300
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: directed by Stephen Green, directed by Steph Green. Excuse me,

1301
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: so Fennick shand brings the captured assassin, member of the

1302
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: Order of the Night, went back to Boba's palace. He's

1303
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: not going to talk. I'm not gonna be not going

1304
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: to say who hired him. So Boba's like, let's drop

1305
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: you in the Ranker pit. The gate slowly opening. I'm

1306
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: thinking we're gonna see. Oh my god, they got another one.

1307
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: They went to the Ranker store and got another ranker

1308
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: and uh as the gate slowly opens, he's terrified and says,

1309
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: it was the mayor, Mayor mass Esva Macksha's that sent me.

1310
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: And then Boba Shann and the Glorying Guards go to

1311
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: the Mayor's office and this is a wonderful scene and

1312
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: I love everything about it. Where the the you know,

1313
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:23,440
Speaker 1: the the secretary in the lobby. It's like the attitude

1314
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: they have, the way it's shot, the and how well

1315
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: lit it is. This this was really fun and really

1316
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 1: expanded the universe for me. How did y'all feel about it?

1317
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 5: I love the subtle comedy in this episode, Like, yes,

1318
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 5: we get Finnick Shan kind of throwing shade at this

1319
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 5: assassin group. She's like, you're just paying for the name.

1320
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 5: They're overrated. And then that moment where it's like, you,

1321
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 5: you know, the pit's empty, you dumb them like there's

1322
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 5: nothing down there. And then when we get to the yeah,

1323
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 5: the Mayor's office, it's like going inside a bank. Yeah,

1324
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 5: the guy's just like, do you have an appointment?

1325
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 9: Like? I loved that secretary.

1326
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: Loved it. I loved it.

1327
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 9: The Mayor's faction is great. I love the secretary. I

1328
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 9: loved or I still love the major Domo. Like you said,

1329
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 9: he's so oily like he's saying all the right things

1330
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 9: but saying them so passive aggressively.

1331
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like Alex and Mongley. It's wonderful to have

1332
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: you on. It's fantastic that you're here with us, but

1333
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: just guests just uh, there's something about their performance is fantastic.

1334
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: So Boba has it out that Mayor really talk about

1335
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: the difficulties of running a crime family, and then Boba

1336
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: and party immediately go to Garca Whips to just kind

1337
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 1: of get the lay of the land more and that

1338
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: is when to the pounding of drums, the twins arrive

1339
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: with with a real kind of like Lanister Game of

1340
01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 1: Thrones vibe about the relationship between these two huts. They

1341
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: arrive on a massive litter carried by like a dozen people,

1342
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 1: and then we get the appearance of one of Boba's

1343
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: old partners in crime, Black Chrisanton, which knocked me ten

1344
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: feet back.

1345
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 9: This was fantastic.

1346
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 5: This was so fun.

1347
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: Tell us who Black Chrysantin is for the people who

1348
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: are not up on it.

1349
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 9: Great timing because I just wrote my video for tomorrow.

1350
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 9: That's all about him, and it is it was more

1351
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 9: than I remembered. I was like, yeah, he used to

1352
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 9: work with Boba Fett Jaba's palace. Java considered him one

1353
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 9: of his top two bounty hunters, so that he was

1354
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 9: hired by Darth Vader for a time. Then he worked

1355
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 9: with Doctor Affer for a while, so he's pretty big

1356
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 9: in the comic world. He's just a giant, angry lookie.

1357
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 9: He volunteered to go into fighting pits just so he

1358
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 9: could learn to be a better killer. Like all of

1359
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 9: that I think is conveyed in his design, Like you

1360
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 9: don't need to know his backstory to know what he's about.

1361
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 9: You just look at him and you're like, that's a

1362
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,440
Speaker 9: bad guy Wookie. Yeah, yeah, that is evil Chewbaca.

1363
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's like the perfect character to put in

1364
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 5: this position because it's not super fan service y, but

1365
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 5: people are going to say, oh, I know what wookies

1366
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 5: look like. That's just like a bad guy Wookie, so

1367
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 5: it's perfect.

1368
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 9: It's also weird to think that, like if you've read comics,

1369
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 9: if you've played the video games, like, you have seen

1370
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 9: bad guy Wookies before, but I think this is the

1371
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 9: first one in live action or maybe even in any

1372
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 9: TV series where it's like, this is the first evil

1373
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 9: Wookie that you've ever seen. I think that's going to

1374
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 9: be fun for a lot of fans to experience who

1375
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 9: might only watch the live action stuff. You know.

1376
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 8: This.

1377
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: In the two episodes that have appeared thus far, we've

1378
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: really had some great fan service done well. Yes, Black

1379
01:14:54,880 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: Chrysanton is another. The appearance of Fixer and Gammy It

1380
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: is another, but we'll get to that. I think that,

1381
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, fan services become such like a kind of

1382
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: like negative word, and I think when you have an

1383
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: Easter Egg that there's no deeper meaning to it. It's

1384
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: just there to make people applaud to go wow. Then

1385
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 1: honestly I still love it, but I understand why some

1386
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: people don't like it. But when it's done like this,

1387
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: where you know, you see black Percent and you don't

1388
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: need to know anything of his backstory to be like, whoa,

1389
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: this is a tough Wookie and I understand that, then

1390
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: they've really accomplished something really cool. And I think they

1391
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: did that with the introduction of this Wookie, really really cool.

1392
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 9: I like to point to moments in Rogue one I

1393
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 9: think does fan service well and poorly at certain times.

1394
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 9: Fans service done poorly is a Ponda Baba and doctor

1395
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 9: Emison on Jetta, where like they just bump into them

1396
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 9: and it just kind of stops the movie to be

1397
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 9: like look at this, yeah, and it's fine. But then

1398
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 9: later they do the exact same thing for three PO

1399
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 9: and R two. It's like we just wanted to make

1400
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 9: sure they were in the movie, yeah, where they could

1401
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 9: have done it more naturally. But then they also do

1402
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 9: stuff like red leaders standing by, Gold leader standing by,

1403
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 9: and I'm like, yes, that makes sense. It is part

1404
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 9: of the story. That's how you do fan service right.

1405
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 9: And book A Bobathet is nailing that they're doing it

1406
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 9: very well.

1407
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: Could not agree more than it's after the Mayor's and

1408
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: Garcif whips, it's back to the back of the tank

1409
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: for some marination. And this is where we get those flashbacks.

1410
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: As Chris our producer Mike producer Chris mentioned if anybody's

1411
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: ever watched Arrow, the structure is a lot like Arrow

1412
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: in that we get an ongoing adventure in the present

1413
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: day with numerous flashbacks to the years, and in the

1414
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: case of Arrow, like if you added it all up,

1415
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 1: is like didn't make sense. He was like all the

1416
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: flashbacks for like thirty years of flashbacks, but to the

1417
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: years in which two the years after which Boba Fet

1418
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: escaped from the Sarlac and his time with the Tuscans.

1419
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 1: And this is for me, I just love it. I've

1420
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: seen a lot of conversations about, like in episode one,

1421
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 1: how Bloba, you know here in the respect of the

1422
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: Tuscans by showing his worth, is powerful guy. He's a warrior.

1423
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 1: I agree with that take, but I also think that

1424
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 1: there's something else we've seen that for me, Boba's standing

1425
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 1: with the Tuscans. I feel like when he spared the child,

1426
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: it seemed to me like a commentary on you know,

1427
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: Attack of the Clones, the kind of the slaughter that

1428
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 1: Anakin did. There here's Boba Fet not doing that. He's

1429
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: actually showing generosity and grace to them. And I think

1430
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: that was his more than just killing the beast. He

1431
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: saved a life. He valued their lives, he valued them

1432
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: as like creatures and that and that, to me is

1433
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: like his journey with the Tuscans, and I was I

1434
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: love everything about his journey with the Tuscans. And here

1435
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: we get this great adventure with him stopping the Pike

1436
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 1: train that is going across the desert sands just kind

1437
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: of like needlessly slaughtering Tuscans again, which is kind of

1438
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: the thing on tattooing. You know, it's like open season

1439
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: on them for everyone all the time. And you could

1440
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: argue the Tuscans and Jawas, this is their planet. So

1441
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying this journey a lot with Boba Fet and

1442
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 1: the Tuscans. How do you all feel about it?

1443
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a it's a very humbling experience for

1444
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 5: Boba Fet. I mean, the Jawas came along and they

1445
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 5: just mugged him and left. The Tuscans came along and

1446
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 5: you know, they did kind of take him prisoner, but

1447
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 5: they didn't kill him. And so I think there's a

1448
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 5: little bit of mutual respect there. And I think as

1449
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 5: he sees how they work as a tribe and that

1450
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 5: they have this the chief and the children and the warrior,

1451
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 5: I think he's got a lot of respect for them,

1452
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 5: and it's nice to see him kind of like working

1453
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 5: alongside of them and earning their respect.

1454
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he understood just their vibe and how

1455
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 9: their tribe worked. That it's like, no, they respect strength

1456
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 9: and power and I can show them that I have that.

1457
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:21,839
Speaker 9: And yeah, I totally agree and love that he spared

1458
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 9: the child. He had reason to whack that kid with

1459
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 9: a stick, but the kids were beating him up for

1460
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 9: no reason earlier, so like that is a moment for

1461
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 9: him to be like I can get some revenge or

1462
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 9: I can just leave. That gets me nothing, and so

1463
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 9: he just tried to leave. And Yeah, I really am

1464
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 9: enjoying seeing Boba Fette hang out with these people. It's

1465
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 9: something that I definitely had like my checklist of, like

1466
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 9: here are questions that they need to answer in this show,

1467
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 9: and they're not answering them in the ways that I

1468
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 9: thought they would, but they're answering him in much more

1469
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 9: compelling ways where I'm like, why didn't he go get

1470
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 9: his armor back? Why did it take five years? And

1471
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 9: it's like because he's just jamming with the Tuscans, like

1472
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 9: he's he's becoming someone new and he's not in any

1473
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 9: rush to get the armor back. And I'm like, you know,

1474
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 9: I'm really digging this story instead of it just being

1475
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 9: a check box of like here's how he got out

1476
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 9: of the Sarlac pit, here's how he got his armor back,

1477
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 9: and here's.

1478
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:23,839
Speaker 5: What blah blah blah.

1479
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're actually telling a story.

1480
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: In the flashback, we go to Tashi Station as a

1481
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: Bubbus trying to figure out how how we can catch

1482
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: up with this train, what we can do they he

1483
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: catches up. He goes to Tashi Station where he basically

1484
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: mugs the gang that we saw in episode one for

1485
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 1: their speeder bikes. And there we see and we get

1486
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,759
Speaker 1: to spend a brief amount of time with Fixer at Cami.

1487
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 1: Please fill in our audience, you maybe is not up

1488
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 1: on a New Hope deleted scenes? Who these who these

1489
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: characters are?

1490
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, this isn't just an Easter egg from a New

1491
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 5: an Easter egg from deleted scenes.

1492
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great, It's really great.

1493
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 9: I just can't service done very well.

1494
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: Huge smile when when this happened?

1495
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 9: So Tashi Station is where Luke says he wants to

1496
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 9: go pick up some power converters in a New Hope

1497
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 9: in that famously whiny line. Yeah exactly. And in the

1498
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 9: deleted scenes, he does go to Tashi Station where he

1499
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 9: runs into the greatest Star Wars character in the in

1500
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 9: the Galaxy, Big Stark Lighter. But yeah, Sixer and Cami

1501
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 9: are also there. They are Luke's I would call them,

1502
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 9: I call them friends, but they honestly treat him kind

1503
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 9: of poorly. They have a nickname for him, they call

1504
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 9: him warmyuh. So the Fixer and Cami are there as well,

1505
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 9: and they kind of give Luke a hard time. But whatever,

1506
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 9: Luke went off and became a Jedi Knight and they're

1507
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 9: still stuck at Tashi Station.

1508
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,759
Speaker 1: So drinking there really stuck it to them. Yeah, getting

1509
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 1: beat up by gangs all the time, and how it

1510
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: gets saved by Boba Fett. Tough time for them. Okay,

1511
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: so Boba Fett catches up with the train. We get

1512
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 1: this really really great like old time Western train heist

1513
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: scene with the Tuscans and Boba Fett taking down the Pikes.

1514
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 1: We get it was really cool to see the Pikes

1515
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: in live action, a slightly different design than in the comics,

1516
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 1: but still I thought looked really cool. And you know,

1517
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: there they're delegated spice. They're doing all the things that

1518
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 1: we expect the Pikes to do. And then we get

1519
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: to see Boba Fett really for the first time in

1520
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: this series, like with some real juice, sitting there post

1521
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: victory and just being kind of like a real force

1522
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: earning his respect from a major, major crime syndicate in

1523
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: the Galaxy. Really really cool scene.

1524
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 9: Now that I'm thinking about it. Did he tell them

1525
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 9: who he was? Do you think they knew that was

1526
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 9: Boba fet or was he just some dude to that?

1527
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: I think he was just some dude, right, unless it

1528
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: happened off screen, which I don't know why you would

1529
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: do that. I don't think that they have any idea

1530
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: who he is. Certainly without the armor they wouldn't know.

1531
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 1: And the voice, you know, probably not that memorable. And

1532
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: the Galaxy is huge.

1533
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I love that they do that and he

1534
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 5: doesn't say like, look who I am, because then he

1535
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 5: comes off as like the savior of the Tuscans. You know,

1536
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 5: he's just one of them at this point. But yeah,

1537
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 5: I love the train scene and I love the Warrior,

1538
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 5: the female warrior Tuscan when she jumps up there and

1539
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 5: she's just she's just having a ball, like taking out

1540
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 5: all of those pikes. It's so good.

1541
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: I wonder what the Pikes went back and told, like

1542
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 1: the rest of the crime syndicates or even like other

1543
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 1: pikes they were just like, hey, really weird thing. Happened

1544
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 1: on Tattooine, where the Tuscan's much friskier than we've ever

1545
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: seen them. Usually they just take potschaps. This time they

1546
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 1: hijacked our train and then they were led by some

1547
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: guy in a white, tattered, white jumpsuit who is I

1548
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,719
Speaker 1: don't think a Duskan because he's not wearing Tuscan garb.

1549
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 1: Really really strange. Anybody have any idea what that was?

1550
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 5: Some guy in his pajamas was out there. I was like,

1551
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 5: wearing a onesie.

1552
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 9: Maybe maybe one of them could have been, Like he

1553
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 9: looked an awful lot like a clone trooper.

1554
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 1: Yeah that's the way.

1555
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 9: Maybe someone could have made that distinction. But he's also

1556
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 9: been all scarred up by the Sarlac, so maybe not. Yeah,

1557
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 9: it's hard to tell a clone trooper without eyebrows. That's

1558
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 9: their big distinguishing things.

1559
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 8: So true, but.

1560
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 5: You could tell that he wanted to make sure that

1561
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 5: at least some of them made it back to like

1562
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 5: tell the story of what happened, because we talked about

1563
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,560
Speaker 5: this yesterday. He tells them to like travel back in

1564
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 5: single file, and we were like, why did he tell

1565
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,719
Speaker 5: them to do that? And I was like, he probably

1566
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 5: wants them to make it back without getting attacked again

1567
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 5: by Tuscans, just to tell the story of what happened there.

1568
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 9: So yeah, like imitating Tusk on the way home. Yea,

1569
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 9: So other Tuscans see the tracks and be like, oh,

1570
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 9: it's just Tuscans.

1571
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: As a thank you for this mission, the successful mission,

1572
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: the Tuscan chief offers Boba a lizard and then he

1573
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: blows some hallucinogenic drug into Boba's face. The lizard climbs

1574
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 1: it into his nose, and then Boba goes on this

1575
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: spiritual psychedelic trip. He is led to a tree as

1576
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 1: this vision of his life, the very stages of his

1577
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 1: life as a young boy raised by his father slash clone,

1578
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 1: as an older man, as his bounty hunt herself, and

1579
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: then he breaks free of the branches. When he comes

1580
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,799
Speaker 1: to he takes the tree branch over to a crafts

1581
01:25:54,800 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: person who then teaches him to make a gadaffy stick

1582
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 1: gadaffy stick for himself. And then afterwards we get this

1583
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: wonderful like ritual dance around the fire. This was Yeah,

1584
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: this is going to sound name, but like I really

1585
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 1: emotionally like this hit me. I love this. I love

1586
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: that they you know it is kind of a trope, right,

1587
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: the prisoner who earns the respect of the captors and

1588
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,440
Speaker 1: then they take them into the you know, last Samurai.

1589
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: You could, you could, you could dances with wolves, you could,

1590
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: you could name any number of stories that are like this. Okay,

1591
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: but I like this, I I I this is the

1592
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,560
Speaker 1: Tuscans are just we don't know a lot about them,

1593
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: certainly in the in the live action realm, we've not

1594
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 1: seen a lot of stuff that's canonically about Tusk culture.

1595
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: And I really enjoyed this, this introduction into their way

1596
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: of life. How did y'all feel about it?

1597
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 9: Loved it?

1598
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really just like beautiful storytelling. Yeah, which really

1599
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 5: it just really adds to the fact that, yeah, Boba

1600
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:10,679
Speaker 5: Fet is no longer just the badass killer hiding behind

1601
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 5: a mask, and there's so much like stuff to unpack

1602
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 5: in his vision, just like all the flashbacks of him,

1603
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 5: you know, being trapped in the Starlac and then it

1604
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 5: like cuts to Django FET's helmet, so it's like it's

1605
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 5: like he's trapped in this image of his father, and

1606
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 5: you know, I keep I have this theory that like

1607
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 5: he has to shed the armor to ultimately like become

1608
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 5: whatever it is that he wants to become. So, yeah,

1609
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,600
Speaker 5: there's a lot of cool stuff in the in the Vision.

1610
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly right, Moley.

1611
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 9: Just in general. Yeah, Yeah, I'm really digging seeing the

1612
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 9: mystical side of the Tuscan Raiders. I love that there

1613
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 9: are a lot of parallels to making a gaffy stick

1614
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 9: and making a lightsaber. Yeah, is that like the young

1615
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 9: have to go to Ilam and they have to kind

1616
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 9: of face this trial that they have to overcome, and

1617
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 9: when they do that, the Force will kind of lead

1618
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 9: them to their kyber crystal, which they then take to

1619
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 9: an expert who helps them build their first lightsaber. And

1620
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 9: in this they give him the lizard drugs and that

1621
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 9: sends him onto the Vision quest, he overcomes a trial,

1622
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 9: he finds his sacred stick, and then he comes back

1623
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 9: and builds a gaffy stick with his expert with some guidance,

1624
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 9: And I'm like, that's making a lightsaber. And I love

1625
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 9: the idea that kind of all of these cultures still

1626
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 9: have these common threads in between them, that like the

1627
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 9: Force works in mysterious ways. And yes, just because you're

1628
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 9: not a Jedi or not even for sensitive, you can

1629
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 9: still have these similar beliefs. I thought that was really neat.

1630
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was really neat too. And I

1631
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 1: agree with you Molly about I think that what that

1632
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 1: let's talk about what the vision potentially means. But I

1633
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: think very clearly it was Boba charting his own path,

1634
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 1: free of the expectations of being a clone, of being

1635
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 1: a bounty hunter. For really the first time potentially in

1636
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 1: his life, he is on a just a purely blank

1637
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 1: canvas adventure figuring out who he is. And not only that,

1638
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 1: it's we're figuring out who he is because again, like

1639
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: we don't you know, there's some legend stuff, but we

1640
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: don't know a lot about who this, who this Boba

1641
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 1: Fet is, and we're gonna find out about about We're

1642
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: gonna watch that journey happen. And that was really like

1643
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 1: a breaking of the mold kind of moment for for

1644
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: Boba Fet. What were your interpretations of that scene.

1645
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 5: I mean, there's there's so much symbolism for rebirth with

1646
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 5: the whole you know, he's he's coming out of the

1647
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,759
Speaker 5: starlac pit and he's being kind of reborn, given another chance,

1648
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 5: and yeah, breaking out of that mold and coming out

1649
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 5: of it being just like a better, different man, and

1650
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 5: he's still kind of on this journey of like who

1651
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 5: he wants to be ultimately and like what his goal

1652
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 5: is in life. And Alex, you had a bunch of

1653
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 5: cool stuff with the tree.

1654
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think that the tree can very

1655
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 9: easily just symbolize his family tree. And we're seeing him

1656
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 9: flashing back to watching his father fly away, seeing his

1657
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 9: reflection and his father's helmet basically like that is his family.

1658
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,719
Speaker 9: We don't know whether or not he knows about Omega

1659
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 9: or not, so all he really has is Jango Fet

1660
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 9: and this whole time, like he was born a clone

1661
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 9: of Jengo Fet. He was raised to carry on Django

1662
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 9: FET's legacy, Like that was Djengo's plan is to be like, Okay,

1663
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 9: you're the next Fet bounty hunter and you're going to

1664
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 9: keep the family business going. And it's like Boba Fet

1665
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 9: never ever got to choose who he wanted to be.

1666
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 9: He was just his father, a literal copy of his father,

1667
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 9: wearing his father's arms, and now that armor has been

1668
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 9: taken away, so he's like, you know who is Boba Fet?

1669
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,679
Speaker 9: Is he just Jengo Fet? Or can I make him

1670
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 9: someone new. So yeah, the tree being his family and

1671
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 9: then at like wrapping around him, it's like suffocating him.

1672
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 9: I think that's anything that has to do with Jengo Fett.

1673
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 9: I think he's trying to shed that right now. And yeah,

1674
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 9: Molly was the person who originally said that she thinks

1675
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 9: that he has to give up the armor, and I'm like,

1676
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 9: I think that's such a yeah, cool and surprising way

1677
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 9: for this story to go. I kind of hope they

1678
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 9: do it.

1679
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about some questions and some just some

1680
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 1: questions that we would like to see answered, or just

1681
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 1: that we have in general. Who is the real boss

1682
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 1: here on Tatomine? Is it the mayor who clearly does

1683
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 1: not reck Boba Fett as a damio? And why would

1684
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 1: anyone really Boba just arrived here, hasn't really done anything,

1685
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 1: is sitting in the chair, but hasn't done anything to

1686
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: earn the chair. It would make sense if you're paying

1687
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 1: a gangster on a planet and then a new gangster

1688
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,640
Speaker 1: comes along, you'd want to be like, you'd want to

1689
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 1: see just in terms of saving money, you'd want to see, well,

1690
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 1: is this gangster actually going to do anything that's worthwhile

1691
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: that I should need to pay for and so they're

1692
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: testing him out, and I think you could probably fairly

1693
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 1: say that Boba is it's at least a push. He's

1694
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 1: probably failing if you want to grade him as being

1695
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: a gangster. If you want to really grade him tough,

1696
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: he's probably failing at that. But he's learning. Who is

1697
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,759
Speaker 1: the real power here on tattooing? Is it the huts?

1698
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 1: Is it the mayor? Who is it?

1699
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Speaker 9: I think it's the huts the way I see it,

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01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 9: it's the huts. And then we have the mayor and

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01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 9: Garsta Flip, the people who don't mind the huts being involved,

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01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 9: Like the mayor even said he's like, I don't mind

1703
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 9: giving you trivia or whoever. I think they're just kind

1704
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:10,639
Speaker 9: of comfortable and they want to keep staying comfortable. Garzi

1705
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 9: Whip wants to keep her cush sanctuary with plants growing

1706
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 9: in the middle of the desert and stuff. So I

1707
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:21,799
Speaker 9: think that they are more comfortable with the huts instead

1708
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 9: of this guy who walks in and he's like, I

1709
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 9: don't need a litter, I walk on my own two feet,

1710
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 9: and I'm going to do things differently. I think they're

1711
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,679
Speaker 9: just afraid he's going to shake things up and maybe

1712
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 9: mess with their power what power they do have. So

1713
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 9: I think they are working with the Huts to help them.

1714
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think everything here is all about show. Things

1715
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 5: are everything, everything's for show.

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Speaker 2: The litter that.

1717
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 5: Keeps going back to the idea of not having a litter.

1718
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 5: So they're like, you know what, why aren't you just

1719
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 5: like trying to take over and being like big and

1720
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 5: showy about it. And like, I think the mayor is

1721
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,919
Speaker 5: also just there for show, Like he's in this building.

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01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 5: He's got this assistant and he's he's a very busy man.

1723
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 5: You know, you have to make an appointment, but obviously

1724
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 5: he's just he's just sitting there, you know. And I

1725
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 5: think I think maybe garcaf Whip will be an interesting

1726
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 5: character moving forward. I think we'll probably get more information

1727
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 5: from her. I think she probably knows a lot that's

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01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:27,639
Speaker 5: going on, you know, behind the scenes. So but yeah,

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01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:30,640
Speaker 5: I think the Huts for sure are are running this

1730
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 5: place still.

1731
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: Saw one of one of my producers noted, wondered if

1732
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:42,839
Speaker 1: there's not some kind of tweleck conspiracy happening behind the scenes.

1733
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: It seems, you know, Garca clearly has some juice as

1734
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 1: a deal maker and a fixer and a powerbroker. Like

1735
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 1: on Tattooin, she has, as we saw from episode two,

1736
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 1: some tweles very close to her that are that are

1737
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:01,959
Speaker 1: keeping her prized of who shows up at the cantena.

1738
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 1: What's going on you have, Doc Strassi. I hadn't thought

1739
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 1: about it, but I do wonder now if there isn't

1740
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 1: some some kind of Tweele like ambition behind that's kind

1741
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 1: of like lurking underneath all of this.

1742
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 5: That would be That would be so dope because then

1743
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 5: we could go back to Return the Jedi and say,

1744
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 5: you know what, Ula was a spy. You know, she

1745
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 5: ultimately had a sad ending to her story, but yeah,

1746
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 5: we could say that her and lund Me were spies

1747
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 5: at Java's palace.

1748
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 9: I do think that, like it kind of makes sense

1749
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 9: with some of the story being told around the Tuscans

1750
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 9: is like that the Twilights have also been very much

1751
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 9: enslaved and depressed on Tatooed because of the huts. So

1752
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 9: it would be interesting to see Garcaflip who now has

1753
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 9: this power and is trying to run things.

1754
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they're like, hey, we were you know, we

1755
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:05,680
Speaker 1: were very pro bib for Tuna so you know, like,

1756
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 1: what's you know, where do we What does this current

1757
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 1: landscape have in store for our people? I think that

1758
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,799
Speaker 1: would be really interesting if that happened. Okay, Max Rebo,

1759
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,640
Speaker 1: do we think he's paying his musicians?

1760
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 9: I hope so. In Star Wars Legends and the Old Books, yeah,

1761
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 9: there was a bit about Max signed like a really

1762
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 9: long contract with Job of the Hut and basically he

1763
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 9: agreed to do it for unlimited food. Max was like,

1764
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 9: that sounds great, I'm on board, and he signed for

1765
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 9: the whole band and the rest of the band was

1766
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:48,440
Speaker 9: like you piece of poodo, like they're all mad at him.

1767
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 9: So now hopefully you know he had a near death

1768
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:54,639
Speaker 9: experience on the sale barge as well. Maybe he got

1769
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 9: out of there and he's like, you know what, the

1770
01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 9: bith and this little drummer droid, they deserve actual money.

1771
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we still don't really know if that is

1772
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 5: indeed figuring Dan from rid Dan in the motal notes,

1773
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:12,520
Speaker 5: but that's gonna be my head canon until they prove otherwise,

1774
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 5: because yeah, what a team up with those two?

1775
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 1: Really, what a team up?

1776
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 5: I mean they're the ones probably running this town honestly.

1777
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 1: And that that would be amazing, And I gotta say

1778
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 1: it was just you know, in episode one, it was

1779
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 1: just a delight to see that Max landed on his

1780
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 1: hoofs or feet or whatever the case. Maybe I'm glad

1781
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 1: to see him still doing his things. Sounded better than ever.

1782
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 1: I would say that was really nice. Okay. The Huts,

1783
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 1: what you know, we're learning what Boba Fat has been

1784
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 1: up to in the years since he climbed out of

1785
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:54,559
Speaker 1: the Sarlac digestive juices. The huts, why why so long

1786
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,800
Speaker 1: in coming to tattooing and making their presence? Felt like what?

1787
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 1: Why did it take that five years to show up

1788
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, actually we're here. You know our

1789
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 1: dad used to run the place, but we're here now.

1790
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 1: Why did that take so long?

1791
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 9: Working on a video on that too?

1792
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:12,520
Speaker 1: Oh?

1793
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 9: Okay, I'm wondering.

1794
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 1: Subscribe to subscribe to Star Wars Explained do it again again? Yeah?

1795
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 9: Right? I do wonder if they'll address that in the show.

1796
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 9: So the answer might wind up being different, But right

1797
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 9: now I'm happy to look at the War of the

1798
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 9: Bounty Hunter's comic as an answer where Crimson Dawn comes

1799
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 9: back and really messes with the criminal underworld and basically

1800
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:43,640
Speaker 9: manipulates one member of the Hut Council into betraying the Empire,

1801
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 9: which gets Darth Vader to come in slaughter the Hut Council.

1802
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 9: Job of the Hut is the only one that isn't there,

1803
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 9: so he's back on Tatooine, so he's the only one

1804
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 9: that survives that slaughter, and then of course he dies

1805
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:58,680
Speaker 9: shortly after that. So basically the Hut cartel has no

1806
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 9: real leadership after return of the Jedi, so they're probably

1807
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 9: just trying to figure out what to do. There's probably

1808
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 9: a little bit of like Game of Thrones going on

1809
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 9: within the Huts where they're vying for power and control

1810
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 9: over each other before they then go out and try

1811
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 9: to dominate the galaxy again, or at least their little

1812
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 9: section of it.

1813
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I also feel like with bid Fortuna in charge,

1814
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 5: things probably didn't change all that much. Like Bib probably

1815
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:29,799
Speaker 5: wasn't trying to shake things.

1816
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 1: Up a whole lot.

1817
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 5: She was like, sure, yeah, I'll just take this seat

1818
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 5: and I'll run it just like Jaba did, no problem.

1819
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:39,840
Speaker 9: And you know, you make me realize, we don't know

1820
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 9: that he wasn't still working with the Huts, right, I

1821
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,040
Speaker 9: assume he was kind of trying to do his own thing,

1822
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 9: but it's possible. He was like, Yeah, I'll keep the

1823
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:50,559
Speaker 9: seat warm like that. That's a cushy job for me

1824
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 9: to have until you send another hut to take my place.

1825
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 1: Those are the questions I had. Do you have any

1826
01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 1: overall mysteries that you're hoping to get unraveled over the

1827
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 1: course of this I.

1828
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 5: Just really want to know what Boba's intentions are, what

1829
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 5: his motivations are at this point, because we've been spending

1830
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 5: a lot of time in the flashbacks, and I hope

1831
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 5: we spend a little bit more time in the present

1832
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 5: day just figuring out what his ultimate goal is here

1833
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 5: and what led him to want to do this.

1834
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the big question because we're talking about

1835
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 9: how he seems happy out of the armor. He seems

1836
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,599
Speaker 9: like he's finding a new identity, So what drives him

1837
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:34,000
Speaker 9: to go get it back? I think that's the question

1838
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 9: that I want answered, and I'm very confident that we're

1839
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 9: going to figure that out.

1840
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. They are. Alex Somali from

1841
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 1: Star Wars explained anything that you would like to plug

1842
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: right now besides the videos that are answering all the

1843
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 1: questions we had.

1844
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 5: We do do a live stream every Wednesday evening at

1845
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 5: six pm Eastern, just kind of talking about the episode,

1846
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 5: and we have guests on different guests every week, so

1847
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:06,559
Speaker 5: if you want to see our immediate thoughts after seeing

1848
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 5: the show, that's where you'll get them.

1849
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:13,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, we do reviews, we do Easter egg breakdowns. We're

1850
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 9: just going to cover Bookapoa Fit a lot for the

1851
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 9: next five weeks.

1852
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. Happy New Year.

1853
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 1: It's great to see you.

1854
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 9: Thanks Jason.

1855
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:33,640
Speaker 1: Thanks up Next nerd Out, Welcome to nerd Out, a

1856
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 1: recurring segment where you, the listener, get to be featured

1857
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 1: telling us what stuff you love and that other people

1858
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 1: should also get into so that they can fall in

1859
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 1: love with it too. Today, listener Nada Ataboni nerds out

1860
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 1: on the anime series Attack on Titan.

1861
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 9: Hello, X ray Vision.

1862
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 6: My name is Nedda, and I'm so excited to be

1863
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,080
Speaker 6: here today to talk to you about my favorite show,

1864
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 6: Attack on Titan. Now, if I would have known anything

1865
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 6: about this show going in, I would have disliked it

1866
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 6: before I ever even watched it. But I had a

1867
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 6: friend years ago who was very into Lord of the

1868
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 6: Rings and Harry Potter and Game of Thrones and all

1869
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 6: of the things that I loved who was also obsessed

1870
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 6: with anime, and I refuse to give anime a shot.

1871
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 6: So finally they were like, Okay, just watch the first

1872
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 6: episode of the show and then I will never ask

1873
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 6: you to watch another anime again. So we watched it together,

1874
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:28,680
Speaker 6: and I was blown away just by the first episode,

1875
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 6: because I had always thought that anime was kind of

1876
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 6: for kids, and this is definitely not. I mean, it

1877
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:37,639
Speaker 6: feels like the only reason that it's animated is because

1878
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 6: it genuinely would not work in live action. The story

1879
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 6: takes place in a world that has been plagued by

1880
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:48,680
Speaker 6: these giant humanoid monsters called Titans, and their only objective

1881
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:52,759
Speaker 6: is to eat people. So humanity lives within these huge

1882
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 6: walls that protect them from the Titans, and there's a

1883
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:58,679
Speaker 6: military branch that ventures outside of these walls and kills

1884
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,120
Speaker 6: Titans and tries to learn where they came from and

1885
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 6: why they're there. They soon come into contact with Titans

1886
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 6: that seem to be really strategic and have human intelligence hmm,

1887
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 6: and the story just gets crazier and crazier from their

1888
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 6: I'm not even touching the surface because I don't want

1889
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 6: to spoil anybody, but it's nuts. Attack on Titan has

1890
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 6: a great balance of these quiet, introspective and emotional moments.

1891
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 6: It's funny, and it has these big, loud and crazy

1892
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 6: battle scenes, I mean, like visually beautiful and gory battle scenes,

1893
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 6: and if you want to try to imagine them, just

1894
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,680
Speaker 6: imagine like one hundred different versions of Spider Man. But

1895
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 6: instead of the web Shooters coming out from their wrists,

1896
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 6: the web Shooters are coming out from these like Batman

1897
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 6: utility belts that they wear, and in their hands they're

1898
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 6: carrying huge swords, like one in each hand, and so

1899
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 6: their coordinated battles are just an absolute joy to watch.

1900
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 6: The show answers all of the questions that it presents

1901
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:00,560
Speaker 6: to you, and it's just a purely satisfying show to

1902
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 6: watch in every way. But above all, it is shocking,

1903
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 6: I mean, like Game of Thrones level shocking with the

1904
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 6: betrayal and the reveals and the twists and the turns

1905
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 6: that it presents to you. And at the same time

1906
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 6: it has some of the most fascinating dilemmas of morality

1907
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 6: and ethics that I've ever seen in a show, and

1908
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 6: the conversations that my friends and I have had surrounding

1909
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,799
Speaker 6: it have been some of the best that I've ever

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Speaker 6: had due to media, just because some of us are

1911
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 6: on completely opposite sides, which you will understand more when

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01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 6: you get to season four. I've watched the Japanese version

1913
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 6: many times, and I'm watching the dubbed version for the

1914
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 6: first time right now, and I think that I honestly

1915
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:44,759
Speaker 6: am enjoying it, if not just as much, like maybe better.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the voice actors for the Japanese one were incredible.

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01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:52,719
Speaker 6: The voice actors for the dubbed version are equally great.

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01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 6: So I'm not even gonna tell you to watch it

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01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 6: in a foreign language. Watch it however you feel most comfortable.

1920
01:44:57,479 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 6: It'll be amazing either way out. As far as what

1921
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 6: you have to look forward to from Attack on Titan,

1922
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:05,680
Speaker 6: this is the real cell. There are only three and

1923
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 6: a half seasons out right now. Each episode is only

1924
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 6: like twenty minutes, and they all somehow managed to end

1925
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 6: on a cliffhanger, which is wild. But the show itself

1926
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 6: is only going to be four seasons, So the last

1927
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 6: half of the last season starts airing January ninth, and

1928
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 6: that is really soon. This last season has been crazy

1929
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 6: so far. I mean like cheering and yelling and crying

1930
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 6: all alone in my living.

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Speaker 2: Room kind of crazy.

1932
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Speaker 6: And after each episode, one of my absolute favorite things

1933
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 6: to do is to go on Twitter and see like

1934
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 6: five trending topics surrounding the episode and people all over

1935
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 6: the world making memes and sending these hilarious tweets, and

1936
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 6: it just entertains me for days. It truly reminds me

1937
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:48,760
Speaker 6: of watching Game of Thrones for the first time and

1938
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:51,679
Speaker 6: how no one is talking about anything else that day,

1939
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 6: and then you go to work the next day and

1940
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 6: you're like, oh my god, did you see what happened.

1941
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 6: It's honestly an experience that you get very few times

1942
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:01,680
Speaker 6: in your life, and I just want everyone to be

1943
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 6: able to experience that with the rest of us that

1944
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 6: decided to give the show the chance that it honestly deserves.

1945
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 6: If you are watching Attack on Titan with me, please

1946
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 6: feel free to tweet me with all of your takes.

1947
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Speaker 6: I am at Nettie Spaghetti. That's at n e d

1948
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Speaker 6: I underscore Spaghetti. Thank you all for listening to me

1949
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 6: gush about my favorite show. Thank you guys at x

1950
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Speaker 6: ray for having me on and I hope to hear

1951
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 6: all of your takes in the coming months about this

1952
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:28,759
Speaker 6: last season.

1953
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Speaker 9: Bye guys, Thanks Nata.

1954
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1956
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Speaker 1: the show notes. Big thank you to Alex and Molly

1957
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1958
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1961
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1966
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Speaker 1: The show is produced by Chris Lord and Salt Ruman.

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Speaker 1: The show is executive produced by myself and Sandy Gerard.

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1969
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Speaker 3: of radicals who brawled with police officers and bombed the Pentagon,

1974
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Speaker 3: all in the name of ending racism.

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