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Speaker 1: pulling up. We got some dope guests pulling up. But

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Speaker 1: first and foremost, man, I'm the host. My name is

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Speaker 1: DJ Willis. You know what it did? Same game with

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Speaker 2: Saying the nasty?

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Speaker 3: Hey, make sure y'all were that Tommy John, put them

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Shouting to Tommy John, Baby.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna lie, put them draws on it crazy, get right,

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Speaker 1: you what, I'm chilling, bro, Happy to be here. They

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Speaker 1: most definitely, man, we're gonna kick it off. First man,

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Speaker 1: we got a special special guest in the building. Man, entrepreneur,

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Speaker 1: philanthropists and you most best know him as the former

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Speaker 1: owner of the Boston Celtics. Man, we got the one

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Speaker 1: to all the miss away growsmen in the building, appreciate

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Speaker 2: Hey for the next fan's nice win. But this is

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Speaker 2: what a ring looks like. Show that ring, Go that ring?

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Speaker 1: What's off? I like that energy?

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Speaker 3: Hold on before we start, man, you gotta break the

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Speaker 3: ring down. You gotta I know what you shared with

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Speaker 2: Man, all right, hang on to this, all right, all

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Speaker 2: The final score Boston one oh six, Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Eighty eight bells, most definitely. Man, before we get started, man,

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Speaker 1: Shall you know what it is? Twenty five dollars? How

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Speaker 1: long where they at with the team. It's five gen nationwide,

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Speaker 1: twenty five dollars. Hey, no hike prices. There's gonna be

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Speaker 1: that twenty five dollars. Come on, man, you need a

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Speaker 1: Barner phone. Get your grilla phone. Antybody need a phone tap?

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Speaker 1: Be in with boos Mo.

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Speaker 2: What's a Burner phone? Oh, we'll talk to you about

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Speaker 1: You got a high championship ring for the barn phone.

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Speaker 1: Most definitely, man, But first he starts to appreciate you

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Speaker 1: having us on the show. Man. Man, you are a

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Speaker 1: man of many hats. But we wanted to say, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm the luckiest guy. I was forty one years old.

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Speaker 4: It was two thousand and two, and I that was

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Speaker 4: back when you could mortgage your house and buy an

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Speaker 4: Tige was on our team, a great person, a great player.

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Speaker 4: But the Celtics are a way of life, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Man, that is beautiful. Have you been had a very

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Speaker 4: And I went to the garden i'd been born and raised.

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Speaker 2: I didn't eat or sleep.

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Speaker 2: I looked like Jeff t very very lucky story.

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Speaker 1: May you was locked in. That's a hell of a store.

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Speaker 2: But I did it totally for love. I just did

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Speaker 1: You're the man, biggest, one of the biggest franchises sports history,

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Speaker 4: Was it?

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Speaker 1: Light Day won when you locking in, I also.

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Speaker 4: Hold on what's your first adjustment? Oh, the first adjustment.

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Speaker 4: I made some changes on the business side, and within

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Speaker 4: And I am not funny. I shouldn't. I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: not funny. I had never run a business. I hadn't

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Speaker 4: uh now we got Joe Mizila and we got two

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Speaker 4: rings along the way.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Brad Stevens, when I was in Boston for

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Speaker 1: don't know if you heard the story, my name is

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Speaker 1: Jeff T. Y'all had Jason Tatum on the team at

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Speaker 1: the time. I'm the real JT, but he changed my

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Speaker 1: I was in my twelve years. JT might have been

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Speaker 2: Well, I got it.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna see you today, but I'm going to see

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Speaker 5: Answer.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna call you Dave.

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Speaker 1: I got a whole new day, Dave Tess my Cave.

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Speaker 1: I got a cousin, Dave.

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Speaker 4: David.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, ollkay.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna skip around a little bit though. But first thing,

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Speaker 1: so I don't want to ask you, obviously, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We see the bling bling, which championship

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Speaker 1: Wait a twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: I don't have to choose, but.

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Speaker 4: The first one could be luck because second one feels

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Speaker 4: a little more like what do you got? You know?

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Speaker 1: It locks it in.

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Speaker 4: Plus this one, my wife Emilia and I are together.

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Speaker 4: We got married eight years ago, she got her parade.

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Speaker 2: It was heaven, Oh dear heaven.

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Speaker 1: Was that first championship when you made the big trap

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Speaker 4: There was nerves because that was I think three max

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Speaker 4: And so I'm just saying, are we all good going

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Speaker 2: Of anybody else that can't do it. Wow. And so

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Speaker 2: he set the whole to His name's Paul Edgerley, a

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Speaker 2: great guy to this day, and the whole group. But

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Speaker 2: But you know, it was scary. We don't do this

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Speaker 2: for money, we do it for love at the Celtics.

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Speaker 4: But but.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you know, so you do you do,

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Speaker 2: you do everything you can. But that was scary.

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Speaker 1: I can I can imagine like growing up at that

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Speaker 1: time and watching basketball and having you guys, having Rondo

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Speaker 2: We were close? Yeah, we had that three year run.

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Speaker 4: Oh wait, we were sixty six and sixteen and we

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Speaker 4: beat the Lakers by thirty nine points in game six. Okay,

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Speaker 4: that was that was fut eating the Lakers, badass.

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Speaker 2: That was fun.

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Speaker 4: My light's playing on my car is thirty nine. Wow,

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Speaker 4: only only the lake Kobe and I know what that's for,

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Speaker 4: you know, far and Kobe was amazing and anyway, nine

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Speaker 4: o'deine might have been the best team. And then twenty

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Speaker 1: That's interested. Did you say that because a lot of

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Speaker 4: We probably did, and I love Perk to this day.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't invited to our parade last year. That is

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Speaker 1: Nah, I don't want to stunt on them like that, man,

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Speaker 3: Oh, don't get us. Well, just wait till next year. Hey,

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Speaker 3: did you think I was gonna win this year? Did

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I thought we had a chance.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: The Knicks played real well, to be honest, and uh

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Speaker 1: Oh, I know when you see the hair right there,

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Speaker 2: Oh, let me check on the inside of it says

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Speaker 2: I'm like, we're on the inside.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it says Boston for Miami, won, Boston for Cleveland, won,

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Speaker 1: For I love. Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's not like we just snuck by. They

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The hardest was the Pacers, even though it was

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Speaker 4: four nothing. Every one of those games we were behind, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, most definitely.

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Speaker 1: When I asked, obviously the league changes so much. You

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Speaker 1: the way the league changes. How do you adjust like that?

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Speaker 1: And does it start with you? Do you funnel down

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we don't have a team where the

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Speaker 4: Our eight team was Danny putting it together with a

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Speaker 4: He could put something together and was thinking about making

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Speaker 2: Try to do that somewhere else. And I respect that.

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Speaker 4: We're friends to this day. So I don't know if

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Speaker 4: I mean I don't have a problem with it. But

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Speaker 4: they're paying to see the players, so they get to

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Speaker 1: Definitely.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, the guys know that, the

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Speaker 4: they don't have any doubts about that. And we you know,

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Speaker 4: we tried to do everything first class. Not everything always

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. The organization is first class. When I was there,

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Speaker 4: thank you for sure.

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Speaker 2: What the fuck?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask what was your initial reaction to that?

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Speaker 1: And it's just like y'all hop an owner's group said like, hey, yo,

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Speaker 4: Well, I you know, I hate to I don't want

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Speaker 2: Would probably leak out.

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Speaker 4: But you just kind of take it and then you

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Speaker 2: Really that way. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just I guess I feel like it it must

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just want to go, like you probably open up.

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Speaker 1: Joe Fault like everybody else did at one o'clock in

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Speaker 1: the morning, said what is this untail? Like?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if I was awake at one o'clock in the morning,

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Speaker 4: I would have opened up.

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Speaker 1: I'm a grown up most stepping out again. I'm a

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Speaker 1: grown up. But he's in a rock band. I'm gonna say, you.

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Speaker 2: Up like working man, I know, I know I might

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Speaker 2: have been up.

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Speaker 1: Now we look across the league and some of the

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Speaker 1: recent news that just take place. The Lakers obviously big

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Speaker 1: news of them transition from different ownership. I did something

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Speaker 1: else that sets the tone in the NBA. We see

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Speaker 1: somebody that's especially with the Bus family law ownership of

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Speaker 1: the team, not saying what'sh our thoughts behind it? Because

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Speaker 1: obviously you're a good friends business far as we are,

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Speaker 1: but what's your initial reaction to, like, really like this

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Speaker 1: is going on now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean my family had a right after twenty

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Speaker 4: years to asked me to sell for on behalf of

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Speaker 4: all of us. And so we are as the Celtics

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Speaker 4: just got sold. We're gonna I'm gonna tell my piece

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty eight. Others are going out now in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, so the Celtics have new ownership coming in.

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Speaker 4: It was a really good group and that must have

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Speaker 4: given Genie an idea. And she she's so much of

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Speaker 4: a good friend that when Amelia and I got married, Jeanie.

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Speaker 2: Like presided at the wedding.

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Speaker 4: Oh and she literally said, wick if you don't marry her,

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Speaker 4: I will, which is funny because Gani's straight but anyway,

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Speaker 4: you know this, so we're close friends. So the Celtics

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Speaker 4: and Lakers are changing hands. You know, we got a

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Speaker 4: new media deal and a whole new future for the league,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of people really want to come in.

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Speaker 4: Nobody buys these things for money, especially at these prices. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you can't say you're gonna get rich off of it.

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Speaker 4: You got to be one of those people and then

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Speaker 4: say this is the time of my life. And I

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Speaker 4: can tell you personally it's been the time of my

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Speaker 4: life for sure.

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Speaker 1: Still still now. Is there any moves that you regret

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Speaker 1: not doing?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure, well I do regret like trading work,

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Speaker 4: to be honest, that was one that we all thought

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Speaker 4: and there was discussions around the table, and I got

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Speaker 4: to sign off on the trades as the governor lead owner,

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Speaker 4: and you know, I feel like I got kind of

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Speaker 4: talked into it, but I did sign off. It's not

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Speaker 4: you know, we're all in it and it you know,

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Speaker 4: Jeff Green came back and then he had a health problem,

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Speaker 4: and you know, nothing against Jeff Green, and he just

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Speaker 4: won a championship, you know, so you know, but anyway,

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Speaker 4: our team didn't feel the same after Berk was gone.

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Speaker 4: So not everything goes perfect. Nothing everything went perfect this year.

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Speaker 4: You know, JT lost his achilles.

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Speaker 2: So you just you go for the highs and you

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Speaker 2: get through the lows and you you have a brotherhood

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Speaker 2: that lasts for life.

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Speaker 1: Most definitely. Obviously we're in New York. You know, the

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Speaker 1: Knicks moved on from Tibbs. In that situation, I saw

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Speaker 1: how to unfold it and that situation, how do you

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Speaker 1: go about when you have to make a decision like that.

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Speaker 1: You go to everybody and think about it, because I

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Speaker 1: know it's easy to overreact in a moment, right, always

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Speaker 1: not always.

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Speaker 4: I had one coach who told me, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: mention who the one coach who told me years and

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Speaker 4: years ago, we see you working out in the gym

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Speaker 4: at our old practice, Cilly, you wouldn't have liked it.

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Speaker 4: This wasn't very nice. And and I'm like, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: working out. I'm working out at eight am. And the

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Speaker 4: guys come in at like ten, you know, or whatever.

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Speaker 4: And he goes, well, it's players only, that's the NBA way.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, but there's nobody here and it's my

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Speaker 4: gym and I'm gonna work out. And the next day,

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Speaker 4: I come in and there's a sign says players only.

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Speaker 4: Oh so that guy ended up departing coaching very long

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Speaker 4: and I didn't ask anybody.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing.

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Speaker 4: You just now that's probably a jerky thing to say

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Speaker 4: in that way, But when you're running something and there's

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Speaker 4: something just going to complete opposite direction, I don't put

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Speaker 4: up with it for sure, And I take the blame

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Speaker 4: if it doesn't work. And I got the ring if

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Speaker 4: it does. Actually, the trophies in my living room. Wow,

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Speaker 4: that both of them.

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Speaker 1: That's fire.

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Speaker 4: So you're gonna take the trophy, you also got to

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Speaker 4: take the blame.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all right. Anyway, I like that.

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Speaker 1: Can I actually have.

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Speaker 4: Any Celtics fans out there? I saw a few? Hey,

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Speaker 4: I got off right. Look, I'll meet you. I'll meet

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Speaker 4: you over here at the end.

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Speaker 2: Of the way. If you want to take a picture

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Speaker 2: with the ring.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's fire. So how did you know Brad

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Speaker 1: Stevens was like the perfect guy? Because when I was there,

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Speaker 1: Brad was the coach and he was kind of telling

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Speaker 1: me he was going to try to transition to something else.

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Speaker 1: How did you know he was a perfect guy to

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Speaker 1: move up to the front office because the things he's

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Speaker 1: putting together are amazing.

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Speaker 2: That happened real quick.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know, but Danny came to me and said, look,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to move on for medical just because of

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Speaker 4: my stage of life. And I'm like, Danny, I don't

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Speaker 4: want you to leave, but all right, And so I

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Speaker 4: knew I had to get somebody. I called in Brad.

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Speaker 4: Between the lead owner and the coach is the general manager,

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Speaker 4: and we got all three but yond the same page.

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Speaker 4: We got to be able to say yes, no, yes, no,

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Speaker 4: but agree at the end and not have a fight

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Speaker 4: about it, just agree and respect. I said, we need

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Speaker 4: a partner, and what's the short list? And Brad led

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Speaker 4: me off the short list of six GM candidates and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't want that guy. I don't want

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Speaker 4: that guy, and I don't know the other four. We

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Speaker 4: don't have anybody here. And then I looked at him.

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Speaker 4: I looked at him and said, Brad, it might be you,

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Speaker 4: because you've been here eight years, nine years, and you

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Speaker 4: are a partner, and you know putting together teams at Butler,

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Speaker 4: and you've worked with Danny here. This could actually be you.

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Speaker 4: He did not ask for the job. I said, I

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Speaker 4: think it's you said, I got to think about it.

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Speaker 4: I said, tell me tomorrow morning. Came in the next morning,

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Speaker 4: he said, I accept. That was a lucky guess.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: He did an amazing job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's doing a great Executive of.

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Speaker 4: The year yet last year and then he's an amazing guy.

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Speaker 4: Just just hung up with him. Now we're coming onto

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Speaker 4: that time of the year or drapped in the trades.

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Speaker 4: So I just was talking to him about a half

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Speaker 4: hour ago.

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Speaker 1: For sure, most definite man. Shouts of Brad Stevens, Indiana

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Speaker 1: legend man. What makes a noise? Mister Groco man. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you man.

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Speaker 2: Thanks guys, serious

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Speaker 1: The volume