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Speaker 1: He's a senior NFL reporter Monday morning quarterback, and he

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Speaker 1: loves college football as much as I do. And I

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Speaker 1: want to start there with Albert Breer is now joining

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Speaker 1: us live. So kind of overlooked in the Lane Kiffin situation.

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Speaker 1: Is the one way to leave Old Miss and not

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Speaker 1: alienate a conference that you could come back to is

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Speaker 1: to go pro.

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Speaker 3: And everybody would be like.

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Speaker 1: Okay, old Miss, Old Miss to the Jets or Old

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Speaker 1: Miss of the Giants. Everybody gets that right wherever he

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Speaker 1: goes in the SEC. It's just it's messy, especially because

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Speaker 1: it's a great all time Old Miss season. I believe

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Speaker 1: that he's got NFL interest right side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: young former player, attitude, presence, what do you hear?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the NFL would be interested in him.

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Speaker 4: Quite honestly, the NFL has been interested in him before.

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Speaker 4: Of course, he was a head coach in the NFL

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Speaker 4: for a brief time with the Raiders. We all know

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Speaker 4: how that ended with the overhead projector and Al Davis

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Speaker 4: and all of that. But there was a point where

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Speaker 4: the NFL was interested in him, in him as an

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Speaker 4: assistant when he was the offensive coordinator at Alabama before

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Speaker 4: he went to Florida Atlantic. I remember talking to a

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Speaker 4: few college skying directors, guys who are out there on

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Speaker 4: the trail, who would tell me, like, you know, this

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Speaker 4: is one thing that could be an interesting idea for someone.

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Speaker 4: And remember that was when Chip Kelly was in Philadelphia

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Speaker 4: and there was a lot of fascination with college offenses, right,

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Speaker 4: and here was a guy who had sort of incorporated

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Speaker 4: spread principles into his West Coast background, and so he

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Speaker 4: was sort of doing both, you know, and being able

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Speaker 4: to give college kids some grounding in in a pro

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Speaker 4: offense while doing the spread things that got them up

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Speaker 4: and running fast. And so this is something the NFL

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Speaker 4: has looked at in the past. Again, of course he's

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Speaker 4: been a head coach, but they did look at him

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Speaker 4: as an assistant about a decade ago. And I do

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Speaker 4: think that if you know, word got out there that

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Speaker 4: he was really interested in going to the NFL, because

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Speaker 4: that pipeline has run sort of dry with all the

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Speaker 4: turnover there is in the pros. I do think NFL

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Speaker 4: teams was showing interest in him.

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Speaker 1: So the teams that can get a Mendoza in the

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Speaker 1: draft or a Dante More either have two first round picks,

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Speaker 1: like the Rams or Cleveland or Dallas. Now Dallas doesn't

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Speaker 1: need a quarterback clearly, or a roster that is really loaded,

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Speaker 1: and you feel like, I mean, the Colts are like, guys,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna resign Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: Our old line's good.

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Speaker 1: We just solved our one issue. Sauce Gardner. We like

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Speaker 1: our roster. I'm gonna throw this.

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Speaker 3: Out to you.

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Speaker 1: So Seattle's got a stack roster. They like Sam Darnald

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Speaker 1: to myself, and I know, John Snyder is going to

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Speaker 1: college football venues looking long term.

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Speaker 3: At quarterback, right you have to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he looked at Josh Allen when Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: was going to Super Bowls? What about a team? Like,

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Speaker 1: what did you make of the Sam Darnald performance? Is

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Speaker 1: it just one of those Hey, Sam is but you

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Speaker 1: look at that the game against the Rams last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the game against the Lions. Could you see a good

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's a big deal.

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Speaker 4: I think he's got a Rams problem, you know, quite honestly,

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Speaker 4: like the two games against the Ram and that's a

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Speaker 4: that Chris Shule has been able to do against Sam

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Speaker 5: So there is like a hump that Sam's got to

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Speaker 4: But I've got the statistics up right now, and this

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Speaker 4: is even with that game against the Rams, the three

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Speaker 5: And he's first in yards per attempt.

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Speaker 4: He's elevated Jackson Smith and Jigba, who is already a

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Speaker 4: He's helped them mitigate some of the issues they've had

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Speaker 5: He's been everything they wanted. And he's relatively affordable. He's

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Speaker 4: Just over thirty million dollars per year for twenty six

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Speaker 4: and twenty seven. So they have them under contract for

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Speaker 5: A few years.

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Speaker 4: And you look at like where they are, and yes,

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Speaker 4: John Snider has always looked at these these these these

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Speaker 4: big picture ideas. And one of the things I remember

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Speaker 4: hearing that the Seahawks were doing all the way back

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Speaker 4: in the day, right like when Russell Wilson was on

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Speaker 4: the rookie quarterback They even considered the idea, do we

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Speaker 4: tried to keep taking advantage of that, that that benefit.

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Speaker 5: Of having a quarterback on a rookie contract.

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Speaker 4: So they've thought creatively on these things in the past.

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Speaker 4: But I think Sam's done too good a job for them.

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Speaker 4: He's too affordable for the next couple of years, and

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Speaker 4: there's too much in a window now with the group

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Speaker 4: good team there to turn the Apple card upside down

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Speaker 4: a quarterback. So I don't mind the idea, and I'm

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Speaker 4: sure John has thought of everything. I just don't think

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Speaker 4: they're going to do it right now, all right, throwing

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Nick Wright said something this week I thought

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Speaker 1: Like the whole league is watching this game? The Raiders

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Speaker 1: aren't good, that that he has done himself a bit

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Speaker 1: of a disservice with a lack of self awareness, some immaturity,

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Speaker 1: likable kid that this this actually means a lot for Shador,

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Speaker 3: Do you do you think.

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Speaker 4: I think the default for kevins fanskis just to turn

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Speaker 4: to tell till turned back to Dylan Gabriel, And Dylan

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Speaker 4: to overcome that in the short term to to to

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Speaker 4: to get a shot to continue as the starter. Right, So, yes,

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Speaker 4: this is an audition, but I think there's a relatively

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Speaker 5: It can't just be so so.

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Speaker 4: And part of the problem, Colin is all the things

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Speaker 4: stuff that I was trying to tell people back then

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Speaker 4: that I was hearing from all these people, Like all

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Speaker 4: of that stuff showed up in the game against the Ravens.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't have great sense, he doesn't see it fast enough.

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Speaker 5: He bails out of the back of the.

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Speaker 4: Pocket and tries to run away from the rush that way,

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Speaker 4: Like all of that stuff was showing up, And not

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Speaker 4: only is that not good for the team, it's not

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Speaker 4: good for his own development if bad habits are being

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Speaker 4: you're looking for from Shador is breaking some of those habits.

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Speaker 5: Can he do that on the fly?

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Speaker 4: Can that happen with the Browns having a chance to

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Speaker 4: build a game plan around him and a relatively weak

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Speaker 5: You know, I think that's what you're looking at.

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Speaker 4: Here is can he move past some of the things

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Speaker 4: that he was criticized for before the draft. If so,

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Speaker 4: maybe they think about continuing to start him. If not,

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Speaker 4: then I think they put him right back where he

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Speaker 4: got their look at him, and then maybe they look

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Speaker 4: I think for Shador this is as much about just

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Speaker 4: getting another chance to show what he can do in

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Speaker 1: So I have to end with this, and it's a

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Speaker 1: real story. I mean, Josh Allen got hit twelve times.

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Speaker 1: They don't have a deep threat. They couldn't get the

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Speaker 1: the first half. And Brandon Bean got very spicy with

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen needs more help. So I mean, this year

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen has lost to last night, Tua, Michael Pennett

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Speaker 3: I think the heat's getting matched, though.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can keep losing to see level quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I think that lost means something last night, I really

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Speaker 4: I mean, it depends right like what happens the rest

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Speaker 4: it something more? Because we now have four losses to

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Speaker 4: like like going forward, the way you look at this.

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen turns thirty in May, and how much more.

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Speaker 4: Of this can the Bill's ownership take and looking at

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Speaker 4: where they're at, I view it a little bit like

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Speaker 4: And I think the right comparison here is Tony Dungee

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Speaker 5: Turned that organization around.

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Speaker 4: Bill Parcells. They wind up trading for John Gruden and

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Speaker 4: the rest is history. I don't think the Bills are

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Speaker 4: a talent like this, like Josh Allen is the Bill's

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Speaker 4: version of what Tampa had in that defense, right, and

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Speaker 4: you keep knocking on the door and he's getting older,

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Speaker 4: the pressure, of course, is going to be on everybody

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Speaker 4: And I think a couple of the things that really

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Speaker 8: All right, Well, Colin quick thing. He said something interesting

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Speaker 3: I told you.

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Speaker 1: What I haven't heard is why Okay, I told you

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Speaker 8: Hey, Hey, Jalen, Hey, we're going to this jiggle joint downtown.

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Speaker 9: Let's move on.

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Speaker 8: All right, let's go to Ben Johnson and Kayleb Williams. Colin, listen,

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Speaker 9: So this is now.

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Speaker 9: It's been what eleven games.

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Speaker 9: I'm on the Bears here. Unless next up.

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Speaker 8: Colin, let's go to the New York Giants. They got

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Speaker 8: That'll mean Jameis Winston gets his second straight start. He

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Speaker 9: Let's not rush him back. You think that's a play here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a dicey situation. So Dave Ball

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Speaker 3: So he's gonna.

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Speaker 9: So just Kafka.

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Speaker 8: I don't know one and six.

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Speaker 9: No, well that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: So Kaska is going.

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Speaker 8: To be forced into playing Dart. Sorry, you're not winning

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Speaker 9: Yeah, not good.

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Speaker 8: Fifty two percent of his completions, more picks than nine interception, sorry,

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Speaker 8: more interceptions than touchdowns, and he's at the ankle injury.

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Speaker 8: But McCarthy, listen to the optimism dripping here ahead of

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Speaker 8: a big divisional matchup.

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Speaker 10: I kind of make the analogy of just like you know,

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Speaker 10: a quirk about to come off a bottle, just understanding

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Speaker 10: that it's you know, one to three little things that

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Speaker 10: I need to change about my game that is going

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Speaker 10: to make a huge difference in the outcome of every

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Speaker 10: single drive in the game. So yeah, I feel like

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Speaker 10: it's really close, but it all comes down to the

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Speaker 10: consistency of the fundamentals and the little details.

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Speaker 8: Well said, you gotta may Josh Allen was like fifty

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Speaker 8: something percent completions as a young fella with the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 8: Remember that he turned it around. I'm not selling my

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Speaker 8: McCarthy's stock, but it's down bad, kind of like my

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Speaker 8: crypto portfolio right now, you know, right now? I mean

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Speaker 8: you posted the stats earlier on McCarthy. He's dead last,

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Speaker 8: and there they are. Boy, look at this staff. I mean,

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Speaker 8: that's pretty bad, Colin. And here's the big knock. You

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Speaker 8: remember Chris Carter, obviously the great Vikings wide receiver back

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Speaker 8: in the day. He went online and kind of was like,

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Speaker 8: did you watch the first fifty nine minutes of McCarthy

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Speaker 8: against the Bear?

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Speaker 9: He was terrible.

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Speaker 8: McCarthy's quarterback coach went after Chris Carter, calling him some

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Speaker 8: choice words, shall we say, and then had to rescind

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Speaker 8: him because it's like, oh, well, I didn't know if

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Speaker 8: this Chris Carter, who's a Vikings legend, things are just

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Speaker 8: not going great for JJ, but.

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Speaker 1: Once GM's and coaches get defensive, somebody's gotten a little

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Speaker 1: too close to the truth.

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Speaker 9: Yes, indeed, my friend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. J mcklenews, Well, that's the news and thanks for

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Speaker 3: stopping by the Herd Line Now five Jmax picks Next.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 1: Well, it's that time of the week when Jmax sees

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Speaker 1: if he can keep up with our picks this year

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Speaker 1: that are at a sixty two percent clip. Last week

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Speaker 1: we went five and h jmack up for the challenge.

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Speaker 1: So tomorrow's headlines today Giants at the Lions no Jackson

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Speaker 1: Dart what say you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: This line's been moving up after the dark news. This

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Speaker 8: is a layup calling the headline for Lions. Giants will

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Speaker 8: be Goff the top rope, Lions claw their way back,

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Speaker 8: love the little wrestling theme obviously, Skataboo and.

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Speaker 9: Companies showing up this week.

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Speaker 8: Listen, folks, I don't see how you can actually back

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Speaker 8: Jamis Winston in this spot at all. You're a goff

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Speaker 8: and Dan Campbell off a loss, thirteen straight wins, thirteen

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Speaker 8: straight covers. Now I know the bad news today is

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Speaker 8: Sam Laporta is out likely for the season.

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Speaker 9: Colin. That is a huge hit to their offense.

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Speaker 8: He is like an elite tight end, probably top three

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Speaker 8: tight end in the league. That being said, the Giants

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Speaker 8: defense is a joke. The secondary's pathetic. I think amenro

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Speaker 8: Jamis and Williams have big games. The Giants rank dead

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Speaker 8: last in run defense. Colin, this is a Allions team

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Speaker 8: that should get an easy dub here. The only question, though,

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Speaker 8: and you brought this up, is the look ahead spot

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Speaker 8: Thanksgiving against the Packers.

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Speaker 9: I don't know. I can't imagine Dan Campbell, who's a

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Speaker 9: big motivator.

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Speaker 8: I can't imagine him just letting his guys think about

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Speaker 8: Thanksgiving and not focused on the task at hand.

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Speaker 3: Good call.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today Seahawks and the Titans.

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Speaker 8: That one feels ugly. These are too ugly game. This

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Speaker 8: one's ghastly. That being said, Seattle's fun to watch the

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Speaker 8: headline for Seahawks Titans from Nashville will be Jim big

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Speaker 8: Saw puzzle. Seahawks attack corners to solve game. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 8: JSN should have a field day against Tennessee colin If

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Speaker 8: you're we look at the bottom of the NBA and

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Speaker 8: there's a lot of teams that are already quitting. The

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Speaker 8: Tennessee Titans have to lead the charge in the NFL.

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Speaker 8: They're bad across the board. They have no weapons offensively,

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Speaker 8: the defense is terrible, and last week they suffered a

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Speaker 8: brutal loss to the immortal Davis Mills. I think there's

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Speaker 8: a great bounce back for Sam.

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Speaker 9: Donald and company.

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Speaker 8: How about this McDonald and donald on the road this

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Speaker 8: year five and zero against the spread. They're the best

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Speaker 8: against the spread team in the league overall. I do

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Speaker 8: wonder if maybe there's a slow start, a little hangover

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Speaker 8: from the Rams loss, because they did fight hard to

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Speaker 8: come back. But ultimately, like if you want to dabble

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Speaker 8: in Tennessee first quarter plus three, go for it. But

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Speaker 8: Seattle will win this game. I don't think they're gonna

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Speaker 8: run away the way. You know, they beat Arizona by

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Speaker 8: a million at home, and the Saints they smothered them.

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Speaker 9: I don't see that happening here. But this feels like

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Speaker 9: a thirty to nine kind of route.

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Speaker 8: Seahawks take care of business is a legit super Bowl

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Speaker 8: team if Sam Darnold can avoid mistakes.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today New England Patriots is Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrell hung around practice this week.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's more than hung around. He's listened as questionable.

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Speaker 8: They don't know if he's going to a play or not.

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Speaker 8: Zach Taylor's making us play the waiting game. The headline

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Speaker 8: for Patriots Bengals will be drake it to you make

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Speaker 8: it from small startup to big disruptor yeah, baby, listen.

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Speaker 8: I'm a Patriots hater growing up a Jets fan, and

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Speaker 8: Tom Brady just put it on us for decades. That

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Speaker 8: being said, there's a lot to love about this team.

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Speaker 8: Colin Drake may, by the way, the best deep ball

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Speaker 8: thrower in the league right now. He is having an

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Speaker 8: amazing MVP caliber season. You want to guess who's the

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Speaker 8: worst secondary in the league.

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Speaker 9: Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 8: There's some analytics that say they're one of the worst

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Speaker 8: defenses all time. Colin Trey Hendrickson not playing sounds like

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Speaker 8: he's probably going on the shelf. I don't even think

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Speaker 8: he's gonna go. And if you look at Cincinnati, like

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Speaker 8: anytime they play a good team, it's just a beat down.

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Speaker 8: I mean, they struggled to play with the Jets and Bears.

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Speaker 8: This is a bad team. No Jamar Chase. So if

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Speaker 8: it's Joe Flacco and T Higgins, give me Christian Gazales

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Speaker 8: locking things up.

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Speaker 9: I like Patriots to cover a big number.

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Speaker 1: Here tomorrow's headlines today, this will win no beauty contests. Falcons.

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Speaker 1: You love betting Falcons games at the Saints.

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Speaker 9: I was betting on the Falcons.

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Speaker 8: One of my big misses was that this team thinking

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Speaker 8: they were gonna be good garbage. The headline for Saints

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Speaker 8: Falcons will will be dun Kirk. Saints go to war

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Speaker 8: on Falcons. Yes, New Orleans is favored here, Colin.

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Speaker 9: This is this is easy. Okay.

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Speaker 8: The last time we saw Kirk Cousins play without Drake London,

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Speaker 8: both Pennix and London are out. This week they got

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Speaker 8: destroyed by the Miami Dolphins at home. Well, guess what,

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Speaker 8: both those guys are out again. People are not falling

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Speaker 8: for it again. By the way, Kirk last six starts

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Speaker 8: zero to six against the spread, just one in five

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Speaker 8: straight up. This is not difficult. Saints load the box

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Speaker 8: stop Jean Robinson dare Kirk Cousins to throw.

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Speaker 9: Down the field. He can't.

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Speaker 8: I don't see how the Saints don't win this, possibly

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Speaker 8: with margin. By the way, Tyler Shook member went to

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Speaker 8: Carolina and had a pretty good.

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Speaker 9: Game, outplayed Bryce Young.

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Speaker 8: He now has a bye week, so I would expect Kellen,

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Speaker 8: Kellen Moore and Shook to cook up some stuff.

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Speaker 9: I like the Saints here, I'm on an island.

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Speaker 8: They're not very good, but uh, Atlanta's by the way,

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Speaker 8: played two back to back games.

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Speaker 9: One of them was in Berlin that went overtime. They're

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Speaker 9: in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Finally, this is an interesting one. I considered. I considered

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Speaker 1: taking the box after the Rams came off a big

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Speaker 1: divisional shootout. Tomorrow's headlines today Tampa Bay beat up at

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Speaker 1: the Rams. They gave Buffalo troubles, but now they go

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Speaker 1: back cross country.

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Speaker 9: A lot of travel for a fatigue team.

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Speaker 8: Fourth road game in their last five plays, a bye week,

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Speaker 8: and you know they were traveling on that one. The

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Speaker 8: headline for Tampa Rams from so far will be the

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Speaker 8: stafford ability crisis. Rams inflated by quarterback value. I love

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Speaker 8: Stafford here against Todd Bowles. Now, we talked earlier this week.

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Speaker 8: Todd Bowles loves to blitz. That's in his DNA. They

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Speaker 8: blitzed at the third highest rate in the league. Matt

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Speaker 8: Stafford destroys the blitz two games against the Bulls, blitzing

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Speaker 8: defense with McVeigh seven touchdowns, zero interceptions. Listen, Stafford is

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Speaker 8: gonna eat these guys up. He's got the healthy wide receivers.

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Speaker 8: I am concerned two tight ends for the Rams. Colin

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Speaker 8: went on ir this week, so they won't be able

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Speaker 8: to go to the three tight end sets that they've

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Speaker 8: been using. But Tampa's just bowls is up against it.

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Speaker 8: When they have stepped up in class the last few

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Speaker 8: weeks against good teams Detroit Buffalo, they're losing and not

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Speaker 8: covering the spread.

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Speaker 9: Bucky Irving just ruled out today. Not great for the

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Speaker 9: run game, although Tuckers showed well last week.

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Speaker 8: Everything on my pag here says Rams continuing to look

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Speaker 8: like one of the best teams in the league and

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Speaker 8: a legit Super Bowl contendent.

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Speaker 1: Well, you and I both and this is you did

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Speaker 1: this more than me. But I've never been a fan

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Speaker 1: of taking favorites, and last year I had a very

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Speaker 1: average year because I've always been take at least a

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Speaker 1: B level quarterback in points this year. I take an

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Speaker 1: over three favorites and one dog. It's really changed the

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Speaker 1: NFL is whether it's the kickoffs have enhanced field position.

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Speaker 1: I think it's part of it where you only need

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Speaker 1: a couple of field First of all, you only need

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Speaker 1: a couple first downs to get into field goal range

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Speaker 1: because everybody now can kick a fifty three yard field goal,

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Speaker 1: so the kickers. There's just more points being scored, and

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Speaker 1: now a lot of that's baked in. But it does

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Speaker 1: feel like to me, even backup quarterback plays better. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Davis Mills last night, Mac Jones is a backup. Not

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Speaker 1: only did Davis Mills play well, played exceptional, Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: was exceptional. So it used to be your backup was

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Speaker 1: kind of like Tyrod Taylor. There was limitations. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: could win a game, but you weren't gonna win a shootout. Well,

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Speaker 1: Mack can win a shootout last night, first half Houston

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Speaker 1: in a shootout. The quality of even backup play is better.

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Speaker 1: The rules all tilt offense. The kickoffs. Now we have

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Speaker 1: four kickoffs this year returned for touchdown, so better field

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Speaker 1: position and the field goal kickers.

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Speaker 3: Had better legs.

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Speaker 1: Something happened about three years ago, and it wasn't cheerios.

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Speaker 1: Everybody can kick a fifty eight yard or now. So

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Speaker 1: I just find myself, even in games in which you

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Speaker 1: think you're on the wrong side, it'll go over late

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Speaker 1: because somebody boots a fifty seven yard field goal.

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Speaker 8: And you love to go against bad quarterbacks. These are

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Speaker 8: the quarterbacks I just went against. Jamis Winston, cam Ward

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Speaker 8: the rookie, Joe Flacco the backup assuming he starts Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 8: and then you know, Baker Mayfield's kind of good fade

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Speaker 8: the bad quarterbacks.

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Speaker 9: That strategy hasn't worked for you.

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Speaker 1: Well, there is a I looked I think it was

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Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday. I went home and I just I wrote,

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Speaker 1: I looked at the draft and I there are ten teams.

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Speaker 3: It used to be.

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Speaker 1: Much smaller, where you'd have three to four maybe unwatchable teams.

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Speaker 1: It's ten now. I didn't count. I did not count Miami.

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Speaker 1: I think they're watchable and they can, you know, I

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Speaker 1: mean there's I still think their schemes are excellent. I

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Speaker 1: still think they can move the ball. Just don't put

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Speaker 1: them in cold weather. There's a it's like the NBA.

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Speaker 1: And I said this two years ago, when the quarterback

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Speaker 1: became that important. If you don't have one, you can't compete.

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Speaker 1: And I'm we're not even the Thanksgiving yet and there

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Speaker 1: are Lions will win by blowout. Seahawks should win comfortably.

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Speaker 1: I'll get the spreads in the NFL. They look like

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Speaker 1: college spreads, and that's because the league is now so

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Speaker 1: quarterback reliant for success.

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Speaker 3: All right, good stuff.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank Albert Breer for stopping by Julian

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Speaker 1: Edelman taking time for the Herd on a Friday. First

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Speaker 1: things first, around the corner