1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: So, like a lot of people in the audience today, 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: when we were growing up, at one point or another, 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: we all kind of wanted to be an astronaut. It's 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: just a really it's a really cool job. And when 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: you think of exploring space, if you listen to a 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: show like stuff, they don't want you to know, you 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: have to ask yourself what astronauts see when they're up 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: there in orbit. That's where buzz Aldrin comes in. Yeah, 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: buzz Aldrin comes in in a big way because he 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: and two other dudes allegedly or very much in reality, 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: went to the moon and they got to step on 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: that puppy, see what it's like. Don't step on puppies, 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: But they got to step on the moon yep. And 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: buzz Aldrin would go on to be a pretty interestingly 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: outspoken uh character, UM saying some things that that led 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: to some pretty interesting speculation and really fed the conversation 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: around um, what could be going on out there? Yeah? 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: What was he allowed to say? What wasn't he allowed 19 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: to say? Did he slip up? Is that what we're 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: talking about in this episode? You'll have to find out here. 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: It comes from UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: History is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know. 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my 25 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: name is Noel. They called me Ben. We are joined 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: as always with our super producer Paul Mission Control decond, 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: which will be a very appropriate name for today's episode. 28 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: Most importantly, folks, thanks for dropping in. You are you, 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: and you are here and that makes this stuff they 30 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. A quick question there for 31 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: all of us and then everyone listening as well. When 32 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: you were a kid, did you ever think of being 33 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: an astronaut when you grew up? I thought of nothing else. 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: We have we have talked about the fact that everyone 35 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: went to space camp and me and you got your shirt. 36 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: It was too small, I know I saw that. Sorry, 37 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: but we can cut it up and turn it into 38 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: something else. It's called to give it to my child. 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: There you go, and maybe maybe it'll get her to 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: aspire to go to space camp on our own one day. 41 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And to your point, to your point, definitely 42 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: being an astronaut, thinking of exploring the unexplored like that that, 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: I think that's a dream of a lot of people. Absolutely, 44 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: it's a dream job. I mean, just imagine, you literally 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: go where almost no one has ever gone before, and 46 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: no matter how abstract or inconsequential your mission might seem 47 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: to the contemporary public, in a very real way, if 48 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: you are an astronaut, you are paving humanity's path to 49 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: the stars. Even if you're the world's worst astronaut, which 50 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: I think we talked about on the previous I mean, 51 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: even being the world's worst astronaut, you're no slouch, right, right, 52 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: it's still pretty good. Yeah, but all the other astronauts know, 53 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: because I'm sure think there's a list. Do you think 54 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: they keep tabs like Steve is the worst one? I hope. 55 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: So I've been you know, we've talked about this off air. 56 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: I've been obsessed with this idea for a while, the 57 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: idea that somewhere there is the world's worst astronaut, and 58 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: because it's such a small group or a small community, 59 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: everyone knows it's like Steve or Derek or something. They're 60 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: getting their orders to go on the mission. They're like, 61 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: all right, this all sounds great, and go, oh uh, 62 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: one more thing. Uh, Derek's going to be on the 63 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: squad and they're all like, he's always opening his diet 64 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: coke and zero gravity gets everywhere, It gets all on 65 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: the instruments and stuff. It's not a pretty scene. Always 66 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: hitting on the server at Applebee's by saying he's an 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: astronaut and then trying to get a discount. I mean, 68 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: a very few can actually use that pickup line and 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: be speaking the truth. So okay, we'll give Steve that 70 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: that's true. That's true. Steve and Derek sound like they 71 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: are in a contest. I always picture the world's worst 72 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: astronaut is Derek. But right in and let us know 73 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: what you think the world's worst astronaut. Where do you think? Oh, 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: he's near the top. He's a good as a good one. Yeah, 75 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: because the level of entry is just so high to 76 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: be an astronaut. Uh. And you know, to be absolutely fair, 77 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: the difference in degree between the worst and the best 78 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: here is hopefully very small. Yes, they've got high standards, 79 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: But today's episode is about astronauts. In fact, it's about 80 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: one of the most famous astronauts in the world, Buzz Aldrin. 81 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: Everyone calls him Buzz. His real name is Edwin Eugene Aldrin, Jr. 82 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: But you know, buzz. That's cool. Objectively cooler, agreed, objectively cooler. 83 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: That's part of the that's part of what they look 84 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: for in astronauts, right. He was born on January twenty, 85 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty, in Montclair, New Jersey. His father was a 86 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: colonel in the US Air Force. UH encouraged his interest 87 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: in flight from a very very young age, so much 88 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: so that he graduated high school one year early, attended 89 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: the Military Academy at West Point, where he earned a 90 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: BS and mechanical engineering. Joined the Air Force after graduation. 91 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: He flew F eighty six sabers and sixty six combat 92 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: missions and shot down two m I G s. He 93 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: was decorated with Distinguished Flying Cross. He flew F one 94 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: hundreds in Germany, and then he went back to school, 95 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: earned a doctorate in science in astronautics at m I 96 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: T and wrote this thesis on manned orbital rendezvous. That's 97 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: pretty darn cool, man. I'm not impressed, not yet. Just 98 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: wait right, okay. In nineteen sixty three, NASA selected him 99 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: to become an astronaut, one member of their third Group 100 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: of Astronauts. What a crazy time that must have been, 101 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: Its lad, We've got this new job. See where he 102 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: shoot you up into space. We're gonna try and put 103 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: you on the moon maybe if that's cool. Actually, know, 104 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter you're doing it anything. They may not 105 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: have told him, you know, but obviously this is what 106 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: you wanted to imagine getting a degree in astronautics at 107 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: that day and age in the sixties. Now I have 108 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: a question. I know nasays it's an independent agency or organization. 109 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: It's not connected directly to the military, but do astronauts 110 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: have like the are they commanders? Do they get orders 111 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: when they're given a mission? Is it like you get 112 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: court martialed as an astronaut. Yeah, this is a good 113 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: question because they can have a number of ranks or positions. 114 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: There might be a mission specialist who has a scientific 115 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: acumen that's needed, but there's gonna be a pilot, a commander, 116 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: a command module pilot. It changes, I think depending on 117 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: the mission or the program. So like in Mercury, in 118 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: the Mercury program they just had a pilot, and Gemini 119 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: they had a command pilot and a pilot. And then 120 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: if you go to things like the Space Shuttle, there's 121 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: a payload commander, there's a flight engineer, yeah. Actually, I 122 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: just look this up. It looks like there are military astronauts, 123 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: but they're technically is a funny term, on loan to NASA, 124 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: and they're still held to the standards of their particular 125 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: branch um of the Uniform Code of Military Justice for example. 126 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: That's fascinating. That makes sense though, because there's not enough 127 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: of a demand for people, right, we don't have enough 128 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: spaceships to to justify NASA having its own military branch 129 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: yet hopefully. So. Yeah, he becomes an astronaut and he 130 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: gets another kick ass nickname. This guy is so nickname rich. 131 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: He gets the nickname Doctor Rendezvous. Yeah, that's awesome. By 132 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: the way, Buzz came from his sister couldn't pronounce brother 133 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,239 Speaker 1: and and pronounced it buzzer, and so that's where buzz 134 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: came from. I was thinking he might have gotten it 135 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: when he was a fighter pilot, head haircutter something. Now 136 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: he's Dr Buzz Rendezvous, which is up there with Mantis Tobogan, 137 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, as you just pull that one out of 138 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: the ether that's always sunny in Philde. I don't know that. 139 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Mantis Tobogan is a great one. Also a 140 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: doctor I believe Uh. Yeah. He was the first astronaut 141 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: with a doctorate. That's why he got the nickname Doctor Rendezvous. 142 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: Additionally here in this nickname because he created the docking 143 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: and rendezvous techniques for spacecraft and lunar Earth orbit. These 144 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: were mission critical for the success of the Gemini and 145 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: Apollo programs, because you know, once you get people into space, 146 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: they need to be able to rendezvous and dock with things. Well, yeah, 147 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: and especially if they're going to send part of the 148 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: ship down to the Moon and then get that ship 149 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: that part back up to the main ship and then 150 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: get out of there. Yeah. Yeah, that's a really good point. 151 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's crazy stuff. You think about the math 152 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: behind that, and I just melt away and you can't 153 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: you can't find me for several days. Just the precision 154 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: involved and everything has to be just so, the timing 155 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: has to be absolutely perfect. Nothing can go wrong. I know. 156 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: I just think the heavens literally that Doctor Rendezvous was around. 157 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: Doctor was Rendezvous. That's what If we get him on 158 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: the show, do you think he'll let us call him 159 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: Dr Rendezvous or is that like a term only other 160 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: astronauts can use. He might make a face. Have you 161 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: seen his face. He makes a pretty intense stink face. 162 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he is. He is not reticent about exhibiting 163 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: his displeasure because you know, why does he need to 164 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: why does he need to play nice? He's done at all. Man, 165 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: He's been on the moon. He's kind of untouchable. He can. 166 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: He could get away with a lot of stuff. Now, 167 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: he could put out a bad New Age spiritual album 168 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: and people would still say, you know what, it's not 169 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: my favorite music. But he has been on the moon. 170 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: Can we talk about the fact that he pioneered a 171 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: ton of the training to techniques used to train astronauts, Like, 172 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, you always see them training for zero gravity 173 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: work in these giant pools. That was his idea. That 174 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: his idea. He yeah, he did the underwater training techniques. 175 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: He also performed the world's first successful space walk, which 176 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: if you notice, there's a weird caveat in there, the 177 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: world's first successful spacewalk. Uh. This was on the Gemini 178 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: twelve orbital mission in nineteen sixty six. He set a 179 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: new e v A extra vehicular activity record of five 180 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: and a half hours. And also he took the first 181 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: selfie in space. Yeah he did. I love this guy. 182 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: Just thinking about that. I really like this dude. He 183 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: I wish he was like my grandpa. Oh man, grand 184 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: grandpa Buzz. Yeah, let me sit on his knee, tell 185 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: me tales of space exploration, adventure. Teach you, teach you 186 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: the complex science of trajectories and grow gravity explained the 187 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: calculus of space talking. I would probably be a lot 188 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: smarter if Buzz alternated than my grandpapa. I would, you know, 189 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: even beyond a familiar relationship. I want to just have 190 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: him in my crew. So when I take group pictures, 191 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: it could be like, oh, there's there's there's the gang. 192 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: Oh who's that. Oh that's Dr Rendezvous. Yeah, and he's 193 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: just in the back. He's not even paying attention, chilling, 194 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: He's got aviators on. He's running the numbers man. Yeah, 195 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: he's running the numbers. He can perfectly throw things into 196 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: trash cans in an office from across the hall. Anyway. 197 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: That's that's all awesome and pales in comparison to this 198 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: stuff that he did, especially on July twenty nine, that's 199 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: the big one. That's when he and Neil Armstrong made 200 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: their historic Apollo eleven moonwalk. They landed on the moon. 201 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: He took the giant steps for mankind in that warehouse 202 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: in burbank Um, captured brilliantly by Stanley Kubrick. Maybe maybe 203 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: we should do an episode on that in the future. 204 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: We always talk about that, fellow conspiracy realists. There are 205 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: a couple of episodes that we always kick around off 206 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: air and say we're going to get to one day. 207 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: Let us know if you would like to explore the 208 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick faking the moon landing. Yeah, we did that 209 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: episode on the movie, the movie that we watched where 210 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: it's fictionalized it was I remember that was a good one. 211 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: But for the purposes of this episode, let's operate as 212 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: though this were a real thing that actually in fact happened. Okay, yeah, yeah, 213 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: we'll we'll table that. We're tabling all the moon shenanigans 214 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: lunar shenanigans for a future episode. But we do want 215 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: to hear from you. Let us know what you think 216 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: about this. We are conspiracy How stuff works dot Com 217 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: a couple of facts about the moonwalk and estimated six 218 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: hundred million people tuned in to watch. That was the 219 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: largest television audience and history at the time, and when 220 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: Buzz and Co returned. They received the Presidential Medal of Freedom. 221 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: Over the rest of his life post lunar landing, um 222 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: buzz Aldrin received the Congressional Gold Medal, tons and tons 223 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: of other numerous awards. He has an asteroid named after him. 224 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: He has a creator on the moon named after him. Uh. 225 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: He is a prolific writer, writes a lot of children's books. Surprisingly, 226 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: it was Operation Avalanche, by the way, Operation Avalanche. That 227 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: was the movie. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And do 228 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: check out that episode if you haven't listened to it. 229 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: It was pretty good. But uh, he is still an 230 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: advocate for space exploration. And again you know he he 231 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: went on the moon. But there's more to the story, 232 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: you see more and more people in sources will tell 233 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: you that while exploring space, buzz Aldrin and his colleagues 234 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: didn't just see lunar rocks and mooned us. They believe 235 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: instead that he, along with his fellow astronauts, saw something startling, 236 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: an inexplicable, something that, if publicly acknowledged, could fundamentally change 237 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: our species understanding of the space around our planet and 238 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: the universe as a whole. Are you saying buzz Aldrin 239 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: saw some sort of life form we'll be back after 240 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsor. Here's where it gets crazy. 241 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: According to several different sources, yes, buzz Aldrin allegedly saw 242 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: a UFO in space. You have if you, if you 243 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: have any interest in stories of astronauts and stories of 244 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: space exploration, we are certain that you have seen this 245 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: pop up in your maybe your news feed wherever you 246 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: get your news, or heard about it on a forum 247 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: or something like that. Apparently buzz Aldrin saw a UFO. Yes, 248 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: and this is not the first time that it was reported, 249 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: but the latest iteration of something like this came on 250 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: April eight. Yeah, it was a British tabloid called The 251 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: Daily Star, and they reported that buzz Aldron and three 252 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: other astronauts, Gordon Cooper, edgar Mitchell and al Warden, they 253 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: participated in this study. And we'll get into what the 254 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: study actually was, but a study that revealed buzz Aldron 255 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: as well as some of these other guys, had in 256 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: fact seen some kind of bizarre object or unexplainable phenomena 257 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: in space. Right with a specific quote attributed to Dr Rendezvous, 258 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: which I'm just I'm going to have to call him 259 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: for the rest of this show. Okay, uh say, Allegedly 260 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: he said there was something out there that was close 261 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: enough to be observed, sort of l shaped. Yeah, yeah, 262 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that attribution, like you said. Yeah, so 263 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: we'll tell us a little bit about what what went 264 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: down there, what's the skinny, what's the scoop? Okay, So 265 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: the test that they participated in was a different kind 266 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: of Lie detector test and not the one that you 267 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: might be familiar with if you watch C. S I 268 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,479 Speaker 1: shows and things like that that monitors your specific biometrics 269 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: of your body, your sweat, your what your heart beat, 270 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: your heart rate, and things like that. Um, let's let's 271 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: just get into it. So I'm gonna read some of 272 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: the some couple of little quotes here from the article. 273 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: It definitely states that those four astronauts took part and 274 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: they all passed this whatever this version of a lie 275 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: detector test was, and the experts say that, um, the 276 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: results show and that these experts are completely convinced that 277 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: signs of alien life were actually seen by these gentlemen. 278 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: It was conducted at this place called the Institute of 279 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: Bioacoustic Biology, you Albany, Ohio, according to the article, and 280 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: it says they carried out complex computer analyzes of the 281 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: astronauts voice patterns as they told of their close encounters. 282 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: So that's that's how they're looking at these And something 283 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: that's really important to talk about. Two of those astronauts 284 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: that they looked at, edgar Mitchell and Gordon Cooper when 285 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: they performed this test. These guys are deceased. Yeah, they're dead. 286 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: So the story is at the very least coming from 287 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: a misleading a misleading base because the way it's written, 288 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: it implies that the astronauts are being analyzed in real 289 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: time or that they were speaking to the people conducting 290 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: the study, and that is not that. That is not 291 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: the case. And here is something of great convenience. Here's 292 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: another quote from the article. Although the technology is still 293 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: top secret, these studies are claimed to be or reliable 294 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: than current lie detector tests and could soon replace those 295 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: used by the FBI and police. Top secret. Huh, yeah, 296 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: it's top secret lie detector technology. And Albany, Ohio at 297 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: the Institute of Bioacoustic Biology. Things can be secret, but 298 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: they can't really be top secret unless they're classified that 299 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: way by a government. Yeah, and you're not going to 300 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: have somebody writing anywhere, especially in the Daily Star, about 301 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: something that is top secret. I guess a lot of 302 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: non government agencies use the phrase proprietary, like proprietary technology. 303 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense for what this could be. 304 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: And we'll get into what it is in a second. Wait, 305 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: so do you wanna do you want to talk about bioacoustics? 306 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: You want to hang on for a second. Yeah, let's 307 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: jump into bioacoustics. Okay, you sounds thrilled, man, It's okay. 308 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: I'm I'm interested in this stuff and I want to 309 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: know if there's any I don't know basis for what 310 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: what the things what these people are claiming, but as 311 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,719 Speaker 1: of right now, OCAM's razor is pointing me in an 312 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: unfortunate direction. Let's just say, Okay, you can go to 313 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: bioacoustic Research dot com and you can learn about the 314 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: Bioacoustic Biology Research Studio that's in Northwest Ohio. Okay, let's see. 315 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: It's an independent research studio and it's currently working on 316 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: projects regarding PTSD and radiation. Okay, so that's that's interesting. Um. 317 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: It has references to the high radiation levels present in 318 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: the sky, and let's see, if you go down on 319 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: the website a little bit. You can see pictures of 320 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: the studio that they've got here there. They're recording studio essentially, 321 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: and it looks fine, it looks cool, but it looks 322 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: like somebody's house for sure. And then if you continue 323 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: going down the rabbit hole, you'll find a thing called 324 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: sound health Portal dot com that is also related to 325 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: this bio acoustic biology website. But the we should also 326 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: plan on to be fair. Just because something's operating out 327 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: of someone's house doesn't de legitimize it. Oh no, absolutely 328 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: does not delegitimize it. Thank you for pointing that out then, 329 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: But it's um It doesn't give it the same gravitass 330 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: as if there is spending by the government for anything 331 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: like this. It doesn't show that there's a large number 332 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: of people probably working on this project. It's probably a 333 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: very small number of employees or self self made recording 334 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: and experts. And so the idea here at Base then 335 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: would be that using this proprietary secret technology, the researchers 336 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: are able to I guess, mine things from voices that 337 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: would not ordinarily be discernible because I remember they go 338 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: into medicine a little bit as well. Yeah, so, okay. 339 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: Here at sound health portal dot com it says what 340 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: is human bioacoustics and it states the state of your 341 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: health is in the sound of your voice. Frequencies and 342 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: architectures found in the human voice can be used to 343 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: identify the innate mathematical bio markers that represent states of 344 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: health and wellness. It sounds a little strange, let's keep going. 345 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: Frequency based medicine is currently positioned at the top of 346 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 1: today's alternative health options. Okay, so we're looking at an 347 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: alternative health option here, everything from homeopathy to essential oils 348 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: would be considered something like that. And then if you 349 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: keep going down the website, you'll you'll see things like 350 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: math matrixes for each individual for your health and wellness, 351 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: UM bio acoustic vocal profiling, which sounds fascinating. It does 352 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: sound fascinating. I think one thing that a lot of 353 00:21:54,400 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: people have a problem with regarding bioacoustics would be that 354 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: in other other aspects or in other parts of the web, 355 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: it's also associated with the discovery of ancient wisdom or 356 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: rediscovery of it. There's a quote from Sherry Edwards about 357 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: this where she says, novel research supports the assertion that 358 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: ancient templar cross architecture contains math codes that support frequency 359 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: based medicine. The idea of revisiting lost knowledge through the 360 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: use of computer constructed biometrics provides a new paradigm that 361 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: will change the face of future medicine. It sounds cool, 362 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: it sounds really interesting. Secrets of the templar Dan Brown 363 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: type stuff. And speaking of Sherry Edwards, she works with bioacoustics, 364 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: and she said that the tests that Aldrin went through um. 365 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: She said that Aldrin is sure he saw the UFO, 366 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: even though his logical mind cannot explain it. So with 367 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: whatever testing she did, the top secret stuff, she was 368 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: able to tell that he definitely saw something. So it's 369 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: not a lie detector. It is in a way, I guess, 370 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand that it's not a polygraph. 371 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: I guess is what we're saying, because usually when you 372 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: say lie detectorph it's the way you're describing it sounds 373 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: like an everything detector. It's it's looking at the vocal 374 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: patterns of a person. So I'm assuming that's some kind 375 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: of spectral analysis of the vocal like after you record 376 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: somebody it's some kind of spectral analysis and what are 377 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: you saying it it can tell you things about your 378 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: your health. Yeah, that's that's what it's. That's what the 379 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: Bioacoustic Biology Institute is saying, and even even unto the 380 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: degree of being able to tell you if you will 381 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: have a quote negative outcome from vaccination based on your voice. 382 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: And that's that's weird because it's the it's saying they 383 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: can tell that before a vaccination occurs. So that's the 384 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: This is the institute conducting the tests. And they said 385 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: that I saw you f according to Sherry Edwards. Yeah, 386 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: and it says that they all did. And if we 387 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: go back to the article, it states that al Warden, 388 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: who at the time was eight six, was on Good 389 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: Morning Britain and he he apparently claimed to have seen 390 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: extraterrestrials and he also believes that we're all descended from 391 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: some form of ancient aliens. And I mean, really, dude, 392 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: it makes me want to go down that rabbit hole again. 393 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: We've been down that route hold several times on this 394 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: show and in our Just Daily lives. Um. But you 395 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: know it's not just him. You also get edgar Mitchell, 396 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 1: who also had claimed to seeing UFOs. I don't know. 397 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: He was talking more about chasing a group of UFOs 398 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: rather than just a single one or something. And then 399 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: again the article claims that through the testing, all of 400 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: these men seemed to be telling the truth and the 401 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: whole truth and nothing. But yep, if this is true, 402 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: it's it's astonishing, right, it's mind blowing, and we have 403 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: to contain our excitement and ask ourselves about the source. 404 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: What about this thing? Does it measure up? Are there 405 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: other sources that confirm it and contradict it? What do 406 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: the people involved actually say? What does buzz Aldrin say? 407 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: We'll tell you after a word from our sponsor. So 408 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: go into this source. We see that's also been associated 409 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: with a viral video that was describing this and got 410 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: shared everywhere on Facebook and probably on Reddit and so 411 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: on and so on and so on. But what do 412 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: we know about the actual newspaper, The Daily Star? So yeah, 413 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: I mean it's what they do. But a tabloid, the 414 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: Daily Star, it's published Monday through Saturday and the k 415 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: and it's been doing that since November two of nineteen eight. 416 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: Can we just take a quick second to have tabloid 417 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: it seems like always a term of derision, like a 418 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: term implying fake news or some kind of sensationalized um 419 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: flim flammery. Is that how you guys see it? Well, 420 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: it's definitely the motivation there is to sell more papers. 421 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: The motivation in any paper is to sell more papers, right, 422 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: But in this case, the let's say, the the journalistic 423 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: integrity maybe isn't as important. And this is tough to 424 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: even say about anything like this because I've never worked 425 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: at the Daily Star. I don't know what the boss 426 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: is there say during they're all hands meetings, they maybe 427 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: they're telling the gods on this truth and they're like, 428 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: why haven't we been killed? Why don't people believe us? 429 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: Bat Boy is out there? So it is bat boy 430 00:26:55,280 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: type stuff. Well, there are different grade gradation, say of tabloid. Yeah, 431 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: technically a tabloid, well, it used to not be a 432 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: derogatory term. It's a format of a newspaper that's not 433 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: as large and is about half the size of a 434 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: standard newspaper, and it has more popular reporting. You're going 435 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: to see more stuff about celebrity paparazzi type stuff and 436 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, speculating about who's cheating on who bread and circuses. Yeah, absolutely, 437 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: and in some case, in a lot of cases here 438 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: in the States, at least, when you go to the 439 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: grocery store, you will typically see the tabloids oriented towards 440 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: celebrities at the checkoutline. But there used to be back 441 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: in the day, really cool. When it's like Weekly World 442 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: that's my favorite. You don't see that anymore. No, I 443 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: haven't seen it. They we should. We should find out. 444 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: We should find out and see if we can get 445 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: our bosses to give us a subscription to it. Would 446 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: you guys be proud subscribers with me to the Weekly 447 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: World News. Absolutely. I don't want it delivered it by house. 448 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: It's still in circulation. It's circulation is one point two million. 449 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: I think we partner with them and make a new 450 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: show guys where it's just reading the paper. That's it. 451 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: We should write for them. That's a great idea. We 452 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: should all get pseudonyms and right for them. Buzz Rendezvous 453 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: is unfortunately taken not to get too far off track. 454 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: What's kind of interesting. I'm looking at their site. It 455 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: seems like they're a little more just into covering weird 456 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: natural phenomenon and a lot of these stories that I'm 457 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: seen on the front page are not never mind got 458 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: to one six inch alien and Gwyneth Paltrow buys the 459 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: Weinstein Company. Yeah wait did she? And no? I don't 460 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: think so. Fascinating stuff, right, So tabloids nowadays have uh 461 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: an aura of unreliability. It's that's something that we all 462 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: associate with the term tabloid, and the etymology of that 463 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: how it evolved is maybe a story for another time. 464 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: But in addition to being a tabloid, the Daily Star 465 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: was the only original source that reported this, and the 466 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: other outfits we found that we're reporting it ultimately are 467 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: going back to, at least in this case, back to 468 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: this Daily Star story. And Matt, you brought up a 469 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: fantastic point that we can't gloss over, which is that 470 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: this is one iteration of a thing that's come up 471 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: again and again and again since the first uh first 472 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: days of UH space varying civilization. Oh yeah, immediately after 473 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: those astronauts landed, probably even before that, there were questions 474 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: about what did they actually see? Yeah, and they have been. 475 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: Another thing that's different with this case is that people 476 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: are easier to reach now. So various news outlets from 477 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: The Independent to Australia's The Pedestrian reached out to buzz 478 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: Aldrin directly and said, hey, did you really say this? 479 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: Do you believe this happened. Aldrin's spokespeople responded to the 480 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: to the Australian outfit we mentioned earlier to the Pedestrian, 481 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: and they categorically denied the story and took it a 482 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: step further. They called it unfounded and bogus, and then 483 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: they added, we don't know where it came from. They 484 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: had never heard of the Bioacoustics Institute, they had never 485 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: heard of this reporting. And so the official stances, no way, 486 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: what is that? And we can take it a step further. 487 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: Buzz Aldrin himself was asked about not specifically the study, 488 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: but unidentified aliens and spacecraft in a reddit a m A, 489 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: which is a h an acronym for ask me anything. Right. 490 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: So we have a long quote from him here, and 491 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: we can probably just split it up between the three 492 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: of us are or paraphrase a little, but he says, 493 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: and Apollo eleven and route to the Moon, I observed 494 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: a light out the window that appeared to be moving 495 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: alongside us. There were many explanations of what it could 496 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: be other than spacecraft from another country or another world. 497 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: It was either the rocket we had separated from or 498 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: the four panels that moved away when we extracted the 499 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: lander from the rocket and we were nose two nose 500 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: with the two spacecraft, so in the close vicinity, moving 501 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: away were four panels, and I feel absolutely convinced that 502 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: we were looking at the sun reflected off of one 503 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: of those panels, which one I don't know, So technically 504 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: the definition could be unidentified, but we well understood exactly 505 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: what it was. So are we Are we seeing a 506 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: sort of misinterpretation of the idea of a UFO, like 507 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: in the parlance of NASSA and astronaut day to day operations, 508 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: That could mean many different things, right, Yeah, that's that's 509 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: the part of it. He uh. He goes on and 510 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: says that he was I guess taken out of context 511 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: or statements were taken out of context, and it goes further. Yeah, yeah, 512 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: series what he says. He goes we well understood exactly 513 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: what that was, and when we returned, we debriefed and 514 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: explained exactly what we had observed, and I felt that 515 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: this had been distributed to the outside world the outside audience, 516 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: and apparently it wasn't and so many years later, so 517 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: this was taken out of context. Basically, so many years 518 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: later I had the time in an interview to disclose 519 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: these observations on another country's television network, and the UFO 520 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: people in the United States were very, very very angry 521 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: with me um that I had not given them this information. 522 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: It was not an alien. And he continues saying, extraordinary 523 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: observations require extraordinary evidence. That's what Carl Sagan said. There 524 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: may be aliens in our Milky Way galaxy, and there 525 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: are billions of other galaxies. The probability is almost certain 526 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: that there is life somewhere in space. It was not 527 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: that remarkable, that special, that unusual that life here on 528 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: Earth evolved gradual, really slowly to where we are today. 529 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: But the distances involved in where some evidence of life 530 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: maybe they may be hundreds of light years away. That's 531 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: a great point. That's like the whole Fermi paradox thing 532 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: that we've discussed on this show numerous times. So we 533 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: can't get there, that's what he's saying. They probably can't 534 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 1: get to us. The odds are so low. So he's 535 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: saying aliens do exist, it's very likely that they do 536 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: existence highly unlikely that we'll run into them. So he 537 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: himself is denying that he saw an alien and claiming 538 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: instead it was a UFO. And to your point, Noll, 539 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: that just means we didn't know exactly what it was. 540 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: It could have been a million other things that were 541 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: not extraterrestrial in origin. So in this case, it seems 542 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: that the Aldrin story may be largely discredited. We did mention, 543 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: of course, Cooper Mitchell pass passed away, so they had 544 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: to be using prerecorded audio. They should have mentioned that. 545 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: But something else here. What if Aldrin was not the 546 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 1: only astronaut to see strange things in the stars. We 547 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 1: know that during the Gemini four mission, pilot Jim mcdiviott 548 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: had spotted an object he described as a white cylindrical 549 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: shape with a white pole sticking out of one corner 550 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: of it. He took a couple of photos of it 551 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: and he thinks it was unknown but man made debris, 552 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: because near Earth orbit is just full of space junk, right, 553 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: But other people were saying maybe it's the second stage 554 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: of a Titan two used in space exploration. And then 555 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: in two thousand and five and astronaut named Leroy Chow 556 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: reported seeing lights in a line almost like an upside 557 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: down check mark. He later identified these as being from 558 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: fishing boats hundreds of miles below. So every a lot 559 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: of the astronauts you see unexplained stuff have later come 560 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: back and said, here is the mundane exp nation. Or 561 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: is that because the men in black got to them? 562 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: Or is that because someone got to them? You know, 563 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: often when we hear that kind of story, the crazy 564 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: thing about about a group of people keeping another group 565 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: of people quiet and intimidated, it becomes it's difficult to 566 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: believe in most cases, because it's usually a matter of 567 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: keeping hundreds of thousands of people quiet. But the world 568 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: is it lousy with astronauts? There aren't that many, correct, 569 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: especially that many that have been that far out. That's true. Actually, 570 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: there was only a very small handful of astronats who 571 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: have been there far out. Have you met one? Do 572 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: you trust them? Maybe that's a that's an inside joke 573 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: for us from a previous video where I think we 574 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: ended it with have you ever met an astronaut? But 575 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: I believe we have. I believe between the three of 576 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: us we have man restronauts pilots, though, pilots are a 577 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: different story. And there was a story that recently came 578 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: out in UH February of two airline pilots spotted a 579 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: mysterious reflective of object hovering about forty feet or twelve 580 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: thousand meters for everybody outside of Namibia, the United States, 581 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: and Myanmar over Arizona, and the f a A, the 582 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: Federal Aviation Ministration is stumped because these were pilots in 583 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: two different planes, so their perspective was different. UH. The 584 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: Phoenix New Times released in f A a recording of this. 585 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: The sighting was three thirty in the afternoon on February 586 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: over the desert near Phoenix, and no one knows what 587 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: it was. You can read a great article on Live 588 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: Science about this. Yeah, and if you if you call 589 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: back to our Jeremy Corbell episodes, we've discussed several of these, 590 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: especially the last one we did. We've talked about actual 591 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: Navy pilot pilots that have seen UFOs in the recent past. 592 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: So it does occur on land, or at least just 593 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: above land quite frequently, these sightings. Yeah, and we have 594 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: to be fair because just if one just because one 595 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: story turns out not to have sand to it doesn't 596 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: mean that other stories are not true. And the last 597 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: note we can leave you with here that that will 598 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: perhaps send you off on a rabbit hole of your own, 599 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: is the following. In an interview with the BBC, head 600 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 1: of UK Air Traffic Control, Richard Deacon claimed, we see 601 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: a UFO a month, one unidentified flying object per month consistently. 602 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: But that could just be an unidentified plane that isn't 603 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: responding to their calls, could be a freaky looking bird man. Yeah, 604 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: it could be a lot of things or classified aircraft. 605 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: That's the one I'm most excited about. But let us 606 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: know what UFO incidents you think hold the most sand, 607 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: have the most grit, the most credibility, right? Which ones 608 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: haven't been proven to be? What's the old saw? A 609 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: weather balloon? Right? We would love to hear from you. 610 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: And you know it's no secret that space is weird. 611 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 1: Along with the deepest abyssial planes of the ocean, space 612 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: is one of the least understood environments that humans have 613 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: ever experienced, and there's still tons and tons of unidentified 614 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: objects being spotted in the air, under the water. We 615 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 1: don't we don't know how to explain them all. It's 616 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: pretty exciting time to be alive when you think about it, 617 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: it really is. I'm excited, and I think we would 618 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: be good astronauts. Not me in my back, I don't 619 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: think I could. I think you'd be a great astronaut. 620 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: Maybe you could wear one of those like ups guy 621 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: back brace things. Surely they can build that into the 622 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: space soon. Man, that can be taken into consideration. All right, 623 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: all right, I'll look into it. Then we should try out. 624 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: Do they have open on open casting calls auditions? I 625 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: think it's the next uh exsperation of America's Got Talent. 626 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: It's NASA's Got talent. No, no, no. This is one 627 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: of the episodes about but like, how do you guys feel. 628 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: Obviously there's a lot of nostalgia wrapped up in NASA. 629 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: Everything we're talking about was this kind of stuff that 630 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: happened relatively in our lifetime, and you guys are obviously 631 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: hugely into the idea of being an astronaut. How do 632 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: you feel about the whole like privatization of space travel 633 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: and exploration and maybe some of the emphasis moving away 634 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: from the way it used to be done. Are we 635 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: going to see more guys like old buzz Aldrin. Yeah, 636 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: so there's a there's a fascinating and complicated issue here, 637 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: which is the following. A lot of successful colonization in 638 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: human history was essentially privatized. Dutch East India Company hor 639 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: horrific company, very very bad, did terrible things. But without 640 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: that push towards privatization, it would not, you know, the 641 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: path of history would have been much different, and those 642 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: expansionist forces probably wouldn't have been able to reach the 643 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: places they reached and maintained the whole they maintained for 644 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: so long. So privatization is the next. Also, I believe 645 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: we're moving away from states towards corporations. So it not 646 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: inherently bad, in fact, many good things about it, but 647 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: potentially potential for abuse, potential for terrible, terrible things to happen. Yeah, 648 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: but that could you know, you could say the same 649 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: about a state run operation. And a lot of a 650 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: lot of the big players that will be in the 651 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 1: future space race are going to be state and private partnerships, 652 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, like that it may be supported with funding 653 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: from the state, but it's owned by a private entity, 654 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Doesn't Elon Musk strike you 655 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: guys kind of a bond villain figure. He he worries me. 656 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: He's done some pretty amazing things, you know he has. 657 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 1: I'm mainly joking, but as part of me that thinks 658 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: he's going to build a sonic death ray on the 659 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: moon and blow up all the poor people on the Earth. Yeah, 660 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get I don't get that from him. 661 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't get it from him, And I get that 662 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: from several people amongst his peers, but no, not him. 663 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think he's a blow up 664 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: the poor kind of person. But I do think he 665 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: would absolutely institute uh an autocratic technocracy on Mars, similar 666 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: to what our guy Marshall brain to episode. Maybe he 667 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: and Marshall should get together and get that thing go 668 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: and get Google's new algorithms up there, work with them. 669 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: Those guys are brilliant. I can't imagine what they would 670 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: if we put them in a room and just gave 671 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: them an hour to talk. They well know, if we 672 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: put them in a cabin for a weekend, they would 673 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: come out with some kind of new, weird technology. Oh 674 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if I would understand it. 675 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: I hope it's not a death ray, I hope not, 676 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, that's a I think that we're going to 677 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: see something very much like the Dutch East India Company. Yeah, 678 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: I can imagine leading the charge to space expiration and 679 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: we have to as a species, we have to go 680 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 1: to space. Yeah, it'll be like Cerebus from the Mass 681 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: Effect Universe, the Giant. They're a giant private company that 682 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: basically ended up being the most powerful thing that existed 683 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: and the most powerful entity that existed. And of course 684 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: there's another argument, which is maybe we should just fix 685 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: the Earth we have before we go try to make 686 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: make another one. How's that going? I mean, you know, 687 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: ups and downs, mixed results. Humanity is still here. The 688 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: pendulum swings. The pendulum swings like Earth is so resilient 689 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter to Earth if human beings are gone, 690 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: there will just be some some new iteration that will 691 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: take our place. But you know, collectively, it's kind of 692 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: cool for us to be here. Well, I for one 693 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 1: of them, excited to get to Mars because there's something 694 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: there that we can explore that buzz Aldrin himself has 695 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: discussed before. Besides this whole thing about seeing aliens or 696 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,919 Speaker 1: spacecraft or something while he was going to the Moon 697 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: and orbiting. He also has mentioned a very specific phenomena 698 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: or an object that exists on one of mars moons, Phobos. 699 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: It's a monolith. He's talked about it live on air. 700 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: We should go boldly where man has not gone before. 701 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 1: Fly by the comets, visit asteroids, visit the moon of Mars. 702 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: There's a monolith. They're a very unusual structure on this 703 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 1: little potato shaped object that that goes around Mars once 704 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: in seven hours. When people find out about that, they're 705 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 1: going to say, who put that there? Who put that there? Well, Uh, 706 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: the universe put it there, if you choose, God put 707 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: it there. There's also a monolith on Mars that has 708 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: been observed. Uh. And these are two things that I 709 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: think we should really really explore. Here's the thing. They're 710 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: probably natural, you know, if you we Ofcom's razor it, 711 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: they're probably natural rock formations. However, that there are two, 712 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: one on both the planet and the moon, one of 713 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: the moons of the planet is fascinating to me and 714 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: I think we should explore it. And I'm pretty sure 715 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 1: buzz Aldren believed we should as well. Absolutely look that's 716 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: fascinating to me that he, he himself, being known for 717 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: someone of being somewhat of his skeptic, would be so 718 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: interested in this idea. And you know, I wanted to 719 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: ask this question. I can't remember if we asked it before. 720 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: If offered, would you take a one way ticket to 721 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: live on Mars? That's tough, man, but you know, with 722 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: like a cool job. And let's say you knew you 723 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't die on the way, you could give me some 724 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: asure and says, yeah, if it had been done, I 725 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,439 Speaker 1: might do it. I would totally do it. I would 726 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: also I would be the one who would say, well, 727 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: we don't have to stop at Mars. You know, I'll 728 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: just I'll keep going if we if you have snacks. 729 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,359 Speaker 1: Have you guys seen the new Lost in Space reboot? Yeah? 730 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: Not a fan? Not a fan, I'm not. I haven't 731 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 1: really gotten that deep into The only reason I mentioned 732 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: is because there's a whole thing in that show where 733 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: they I'll have to take a test like aptitude tests 734 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: in order to become the new colonizers of space or 735 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: the new planet that they're trying to find because Earth 736 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: is not doing so well. So what do you think 737 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: of unidentified flying objects. Are they all mundane? Is there 738 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: something further at play? Have astronauts actually seen these and 739 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 1: later denied them or have they been misquoted and mischaracterized 740 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: in the media On the never ending hunt for more clicks, 741 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: we want to know your opinions. Let us know what 742 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 1: you think. You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. 743 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: You can also in our community page and meet your 744 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: fellow conspiracy realist on Here's where it gets crazy on Facebook, 745 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: and you can call us. You can actually call us 746 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: and leave a message and it might get on the show. 747 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: Here's the number. 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