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Speaker 2: charge of, in this case, running the football operations, who

438
00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,840
Speaker 2: are made aware of allegations very specific in nature, and

439
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,280
Speaker 2: they do nothing. You got a pretty tall task on

440
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:06,919
Speaker 2: your plate. You're paid a lot of money. You got

441
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,480
Speaker 2: a tall task, and that is you have to maintain

442
00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,359
Speaker 2: control of your program and operate under the guidelines and

443
00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 2: by laws as passed down by the NC DOABLEA and

444
00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,280
Speaker 2: I they catch you not doing that and it's blatant,

445
00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,280
Speaker 2: which according to these reports it is, then you got

446
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 2: some trouble. But look, we're gonna find out about that

447
00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,240
Speaker 2: in due time. What about the impact as we've seen

448
00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 2: it reported. If all of this or even most of

449
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,440
Speaker 2: fractions of it is true, then you're gonna have a

450
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,800
Speaker 2: lot of coaching turnover there. But I think a lot

451
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,800
Speaker 2: of people assume that at this point, not everyone, but

452
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 2: I am among those that assume something eventually is gonna

453
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,160
Speaker 2: happen in terms of coaching staff turnover there. But that's

454
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 2: not the biggest impact. That just impacts Arizona State. Think

455
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 2: about the PAC twelve South this year. If this were

456
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,400
Speaker 2: an otherwise clean situation and they were riding into twenty

457
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Speaker 2: twenty one.

458
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 1: This was going to impact the PAC twelve South.

459
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Speaker 2: It may still we don't know how this turns out,

460
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 2: but USC is the biggest beneficiary from this. I think

461
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,479
Speaker 2: by ten miles Arizona State was gonna be a big

462
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 2: time challenge. I'm speaking in the past tense only be

463
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,679
Speaker 2: cause I think this will impact this upcoming season. What

464
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,920
Speaker 2: does it do in the PAC twelve South. Well, Utah's

465
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 2: better for it. Certainly USC is better for it. It

466
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,640
Speaker 2: takes what could have been a big hurdle away from

467
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,400
Speaker 2: several programs. You're looking at Arizona State schedule right here

468
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:22,120
Speaker 2: on YouTube. They play at UCLA, at Utah, USC at Washington.

469
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 2: I mean, this was going to be one of the

470
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Speaker 2: big games for Washington up north.

471
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Speaker 1: They Washington.

472
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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about this later in the show.

473
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Speaker 2: They don't play USC this year, they don't play Utah.

474
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 2: Their toughest game from the South was going to be

475
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 2: this game against Arizona State. Who knows what that means. Now,

476
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that later. And so that's

477
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 2: one point of this. The second point is what if

478
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 2: this job comes open, Well, then we have to ask ourselves,

479
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,360
Speaker 2: is it a scenario A or a scenario B. Arizona

480
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 2: State's thought of in the college football world is one

481
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,479
Speaker 2: of the more underrated coaching jobs in America.

482
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Speaker 1: I agree with that.

483
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 2: I thought after Texas A and M got themselves seriously

484
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,119
Speaker 2: about football and hired Jimbo Fisher, I viewed that this

485
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 2: is one of the biggest sleeping giant programs in college football.

486
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: There's a lot of talent that leaves that area that

487
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 2: could stay home. Ty Thompson, for example, as a kid

488
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 2: at Oregon right now could play this year, certainly is

489
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 2: looked at as the quarterback of the future. They had

490
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 2: to go to Arizona to get him. A kid didn't

491
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 2: reside and Salem Morgan, they had to go to Arizona

492
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 2: to get him. And the point is scenario A. Let's

493
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 2: say there is a coaching change there made, but the

494
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 2: NCAA looks at it and says, all right, look, this

495
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 2: was a strong, extenuating kind of circumstance. It was a

496
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 2: weird one off. We're not going to punish you. Athletic

497
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: department wide clean out the coaching staff will be good.

498
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: It could be that, or it could just be that

499
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 2: everything goes up and smoke. But if it's scenario A

500
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 2: and you got a ready made program sitting there and

501
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: you got a bunch of head coaches looking around saying,

502
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 2: huh uh, I'd like that, well, that could be a

503
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: game changer. Someone calling me as they know goodwell, I'm.

504
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: On the air. And then the other part here is

505
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: what does it do to this roster?

506
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Speaker 2: Because I think this is the most immediate point of interest,

507
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 2: and a lot of staffs out here that still have

508
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: a couple of scholarship spots open.

509
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 1: Let's say for this upcoming year.

510
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 2: They're looking out there and they're saying, there's a reason

511
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 2: that team was going to be ranked in the top

512
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 2: fifteen or top twenty. They got some good players. I

513
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: wish we could get an announcement sooner rather than later.

514
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 2: We'll get some indication about what's going to happen, because

515
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 2: we could use this guy, we could use that guy.

516
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 2: I know that makes you feel the need to take

517
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 2: a shower when you hear it, but that's the reality

518
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 2: of college football right now. So there's a lot going

519
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 2: on here. This is going to have impact you're if

520
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 2: you're an Illinois fan, if you're a Florida State fan,

521
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 2: who knows this could impact you in ways that you

522
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 2: never thought imaginable. This is going to be a fun

523
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 2: little segment we're about to do. I've been sitting on

524
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: this one for a while. I got your input on

525
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: it earlier today, and now I think we're ready to

526
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 2: roll with it. If I were to ask you which

527
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 2: teams are college football's most dangerous teams this year? Which

528
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: ones would use circle? Here are the caveats. We're not

529
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: looking for teams ranked in the top six or seven.

530
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: We're looking for teams that may be slightly off the

531
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Speaker 2: playoff radar, but you feel either could make the playoff

532
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: or at the very least they could wreck multiple playoff dreams.

533
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: And I got one, two, three, I got four of

534
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: them here. But I put this out on Twitter earlier today.

535
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: I got great response. There was a ton of ole

536
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 2: miss a ton of Iowa State. I'm not talking about

537
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: Iowa State because they're going to be ranked well inside

538
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: the top ten. Arkansas was a strong mentioned, Texas, Miami,

539
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: these are all good. LSU was mentioned. I'm about to

540
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 2: lead off with them. So there was a lot of

541
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: good submission that I cannot get to. And this is

542
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: not in any order except for the first one, but

543
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 2: let's roll with this. LSU, to me, is the most

544
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: dangerous team in college football this year, fitting these parameters

545
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 2: because there's no ceiling. This is the only program in

546
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 2: America if you really stopped to think about it, the

547
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: LSU Tigers twenty twenty one.

548
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: There's no ceiling because the roster's so good.

549
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 2: They're literally capable of winning a national championship for everything

550
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 2: we're to go right. There's also a downside to that

551
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: that will circle back to. But think about the quarterback situation.

552
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: You've got two viable candidates there. This is a top

553
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: five roster. You don't need to worry a second about

554
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: whether that organization is hungry. There is an entire organization

555
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: that is less than two years removed from winning a title,

556
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: that has their backs against the wall, feeling the need

557
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: to reprove themselves to the world.

558
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: That's a really good formula.

559
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: You're looking at the schedule, if you're watching on YouTube,

560
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: it's a very winnable early portion of the schedule. So

561
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: if you've got things to figure out, you got a

562
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: couple of new coordinators UCLA McNeice, Central Michigan at Mississippi State,

563
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: Auburn at Kentucky. Those are as close to tune ups

564
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 2: that you would line up if you reside in the

565
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: SEC as you can get. I'm not disrespecting those programs.

566
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: I'm saying you're gonna have to play someone. Those are

567
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: the someones you want to play. You don't want Bama

568
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: in week two, you don't want Florida in week three.

569
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: You don't want to go to Ole Miss in week

570
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: four or A and M in Week five. You want

571
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: those teams on the back half. There is no ceiling.

572
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: If all things fall the way LSU want them to,

573
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: they can literally win a title.

574
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: That's how good the roster is.

575
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: But there's also no floor here because if they've got

576
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 2: the same internal locker room rot that they had last year,

577
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: if culturally things still suck down, there's no floor.

578
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: No amount of talent can save you.

579
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 2: They could fall off the cliff and you can just

580
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: hear one collective all year and then you know what

581
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: comes at the end, the great big splat. This is

582
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: the most dangerous team in America this year. Now we

583
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: move on, I wanted to clearly state that LSU was

584
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 2: my top choice. There there's one more SEC team we're

585
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: gonna circle back to, So the rest of these these

586
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 2: are not in any order. I want to go as

587
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: bout as far away from Baton Rouge as we can

588
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: and still reside in college football. Washington is a very

589
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: dangerous team this year. Let me just get you two

590
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 2: simple questions. You may not think they're capable of winning

591
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: a title. I don't think they're capable of winning a

592
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: national title. But remember we're talking about teams that could

593
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: make the playoff or wreck other teams playoff dreams. Here,

594
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you two questions, very generic. What

595
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: if I told you that there is a Power five

596
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: team that could be favored in every one of their games?

597
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: And then second part of that is absolutely no one's

598
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: talking about them on the playoff radar as far as

599
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: I can tell, Would you be interested in that? Because

600
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: both would be yes and yes, And it's Washington. You're

601
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,719
Speaker 2: looking at the schedule right now on screen, if you're

602
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: watching visually that game November sixth, week whatever it is

603
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 2: against Oregon, that's the only game right now as it

604
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 2: stands that I would make them an underdog game, and

605
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: it would be short.

606
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: It would be about a field goal or less.

607
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: And so who knows by the time that gets here,

608
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: that's several months away and several games away. Washington could

609
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: be favored in that one. They're favored as it stands

610
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: right now at Michigan in week two. We're going to

611
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: talk more about that game later. Look at this, they

612
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 2: don't play usc from the south, they don't play Utah

613
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: from the south. There are other toughest games. Oregon got

614
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: them at home. Washington State got them at home. Arizona

615
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: State got him at home. And so this is a

616
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: dangerous team without the possibility of the offense making a

617
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,479
Speaker 2: pretty sizeable leap forward. Because I'm not going to sit

618
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,719
Speaker 2: here and tell you I'm going to go as far

619
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: as to suspect that they're going to make some quantum

620
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: leap offensively, but it's not out of the realm of

621
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: possibility totally that they could make a sizeable jump in

622
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 2: production offensively. If that were to happen, then they become

623
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: an even more dangerous team. I think schedule dynamics alone,

624
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: and quality of roster and returning starter quality and experience,

625
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 2: returning quality makes them a dangerous team, probably the most

626
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: dangerous in the Pac twelve, again not counting Oregon, because

627
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: Oregon is already going to be respected, at least in

628
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: the preseason, I think more than Washington will be think

629
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: a lot more people, even if they're ranked similarly, And

630
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a lot of preseason ratings, and we

631
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: haven't done ours yet.

632
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: JP poll not released yet.

633
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: But even if you do try and window dress and say, oh,

634
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: Washington and Oregon ranks similarly, there's only one of those

635
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: that you're taking serious. As an actual playoff threat, and

636
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 2: it's probably not Washington. So I'm going to label Washington

637
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: as my most dangerous Pac twelve team. Fitting those criteria,

638
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: then we got to go to the Big Twelve. I

639
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: deliberated about whether I should include Texas here, but I

640
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 2: think there is a more dangerous.

641
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: Team than Texas.

642
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: However, we don't have to leave the lone star state

643
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: to find them. TCU another one of the most dangerous

644
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 2: teams in college football. TCU is my most dangerous Big

645
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: twelve team, very sneaky here. I've got very little doubt

646
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: that TCU is going to wreck at least one team season.

647
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: I do not think that this is going to be

648
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 2: a team that makes the playoff. It would very much

649
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: surprise me. It wouldn't be the biggest shock in the world.

650
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to make the playoff, but

651
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: I do think when you look at how their schedule

652
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: sets up, this is scheduled, dynamic city. So think about

653
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 2: what we have here. You got all the veteran elements

654
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: you would need. It's a veteran roster. They're not alone

655
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: because of the super senior rule. There are a lot

656
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: of veteran rosters out there, Well, this is one of them.

657
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: But they have a veteran presence at quarterback, hopefully healthy

658
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: this year, and equally as important behind a veteran offensive line. Finally,

659
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: of course, a veteran head coach. I think Patterson's in

660
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: his twenty first year. I think gets kind of overlooked.

661
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: You don't have many coaches two decades in anywhere. They

662
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: are underrated at wide receiver this year, and they have

663
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: Zach Evans at running back. The only questions surrounding Zachary

664
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: Evans coming out of high school were off field, and

665
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: from this point on his body the neck up, there

666
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: is no one questioned his wheels, no one question his

667
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: burst or his cutting ability. Well, he came on kind

668
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: of strong at the end of last year. All those

669
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: pieces are back, is what I'm telling you. Now, I

670
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: want you to listen to this, close your eyes and

671
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: just picture TCU. You know how pesky they've been in

672
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: the past under normal circumstances. Now imagine you're Texas, you

673
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: got Oklahoma two weeks from now. What has the Big

674
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: twelve schedule maker decided to deal you? The week before

675
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: the Red River rivalry shootout, excuse me, a trip to

676
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: TCU so TCU gets Texas the week before red River.

677
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: It gets better.

678
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: Then if you're the Oklahoma Sooners and you come out

679
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: of red River, who does the Big twelve schedule A dealer?

680
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: Have you facing the next week?

681
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: TCU gets Oklahoma the week after red River, and I'm

682
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: still not done. They also play at Iowa State to

683
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: ind the year it is a Thursday or Friday game.

684
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: Guess who Iowa State plays the week before that?

685
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: Oh?

686
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: You?

687
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

688
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: So in summary, TCU plays Texas right before they play OU,

689
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: TCU plays OU right after they played Texas, and TCU

690
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: plays Iowa State right after Iowa States played Oklahoma and,

691
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: by the way, probably one of the more underrated offensive

692
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: rosters in America this year as it relates to expectation.

693
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: So that's all we have going for is for TCU

694
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: right now, Parker, You're welcome, buddy. And last but not least,

695
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: in fact, I gave strong consideration to making this team

696
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: the most dangerous, so it was actually a tie. It

697
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: was almost a tie between a couple of SEC West

698
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: teams ole miss oh boy. So let me say this,

699
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: Let me let us simmer for just a second, because

700
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: I had some pushback on this the other day. I'll

701
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: address that in a second. Ole Miss one of the

702
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: most dangerous teams in college football. Let me give you

703
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: one question that could just totally turn the playoff picture

704
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: on its ear this year. And it's the answer to

705
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: this question. What if ole Miss is averaged defensively this year?

706
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: They don't have to be great. They don't have to

707
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: be good. They were abysmal last year. They gave up

708
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: a little over thirty eight points per game defensively.

709
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: They were ranked one to eighteen or one nineteen.

710
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: If they were to give me production defensively in the

711
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: fifty to sixty range nationally, this is a playoff contender,

712
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: not a fringe top twenty.

713
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: You didn't misunderstand me.

714
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: If ole Miss gets average comparative defensive production this year,

715
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: that's a playoff contender. The difference is Lane Kiffin showing

716
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: up with his offense knowing, man, we got to score

717
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: forty to have a shot today, versus him showing up

718
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: saying four.

719
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: Touchdowns thirty points that could get it done today.

720
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: That makes the difference in multiple wins for them this year.

721
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: I said something the other week. A lot of you

722
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: laughed at it. I'm dead serious about it. I know

723
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: coaches didn't laugh at it. I told you teams in

724
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: the SEC get very uncomfortable when they see ole Miss

725
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: on the schedule. They get a lot more uncomfortable when

726
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: they see ole Miss than when they see some other

727
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: teams that you may have higher expectations for any given

728
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: year because with Lane Kiffin park there and arguably I

729
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: don't even argue this going into the season, the top

730
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: quarterback in the conference, easily the most proven quarterback I

731
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: would say in the conference, all the other offensive weaponry,

732
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: and very much a retooled and they hope an overhauled defense.

733
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: This is a team you're going to see in a

734
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: lot of preseason rankings in like the fifteen to twenty

735
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: five range that has a legitimate shot if they have

736
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: average defensive play to be a playoff contender, because they

737
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: have all the other parts you want. The explosiveness offensively,

738
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 2: they have it, the cadit quarterback you need, the skill,

739
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: the play calling and everything.

740
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: They have all that.

741
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: It's just that no one thinks they can stop molasses

742
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: in December defensively, and that's what keeps them on the periphery,

743
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: and that's what just makes them a threat to knock

744
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: someone else off as opposed to an actual contender themselves.

745
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: There's going to be a lot of focus on Bama,

746
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: as they should be. There's going to be a lot

747
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: of focus on A and M as there should be.

748
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: If you came to me and you said, Josh, I

749
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna make Old Miss my number two team

750
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: in the West, I would say I'm interested, I'm intrigued.

751
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: I could easily see the argument go on and lay

752
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: it out for me, and at that point we would

753
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: have a strong conversation.

754
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: If you think that would be shocking, let me put

755
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: it this way.

756
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: If you think Old Miss beaten Alabama this year would

757
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: be shocking, I don't know what sports you've been watching.

758
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: I don't even even with Alabama as great as Alabama is.

759
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: If you think that team with Lane Kiffin and an

760
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: average defense would be shocking if they started beating folks,

761
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're watching.

762
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: It wouldn't shock me at all. I'll tell you that.

763
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: So what did we go?

764
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: We went LSU, Washington, TCU, ol Miss. Look, if you

765
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: want to throw Arkansas in there, have at it. Miami absolutely,

766
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: Texas gave strong consideration there. Oklahoma State. I started to

767
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: roll with them. So yes, there are many more ways

768
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: we could go. I just didn't want it to be

769
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: a twenty five minute segment. We did one of those

770
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: the other day. I didn't want to do another one.

771
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap it up with this, So I'm

772
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: gonna go back up to the West coast.

773
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 2: I told you the other day I was gonna leave

774
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: it in your hands. You let me know if you

775
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: want this. We've been getting great traction on our swing

776
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: game segments, and we've done them for the SEC Big ten.

777
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: I think we've done him for all the Power five

778
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: conferences now, and so I said, if you want it

779
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: for the PAC twelve, let me know.

780
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: And overwhelmingly kind of.

781
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: Surprised me, actually, the degree to which you overwhelmingly said, yes,

782
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: we want it. So here we go, pack twelve swing

783
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: games you asked for them. We are going to answer here.

784
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: The swing game is not always your biggest game. The

785
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: swing game is the one we circle, and we think

786
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 2: that will, for better or for worse, determine how your

787
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: season ended up playing out. Let's start with Oregon. You

788
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: give me Washington State at Oregon. This is all the

789
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: way down the road. In Week eleven. We normally don't

790
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 2: go that deep in the season for a swing game,

791
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 2: but there are reasons here. This is as close as

792
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 2: Oregon will have been in several years to being viewed

793
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: as a viable playoff contender. Now they've been a playoff

794
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 2: contender in the past, they've had the preseason ranking top

795
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 2: to bottom. This team's as good as they've had in

796
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: quite a while, and it's as good as shot therefore

797
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: as they've had in quite a while. The PAC twelve

798
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 2: North game to circle is the one you're looking at

799
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: right now on your screen if you're watching. It's November six,

800
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: it's at Washington. But that's not the swing game. The

801
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: swing games the next week when Washington State comes into Eugene,

802
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 2: and that is November thirteen teenth, and that's Washington State

803
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 2: having a bye week right before that game. So either way,

804
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: regardless of how that game at Washington plays out, it's

805
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: going to be a knife fight. I think the following week,

806
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: they could they being Oregon, they could either be in

807
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: do or die back against the wall mode, or they

808
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: could be in pole position and vying for maybe a

809
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: trip to the PAC twelve championship game, but trying to

810
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: keep playoff hopes alive too, and that game I think

811
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 2: will be a huge swing because look at what they've

812
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 2: got the next week. That thing is sandwich right between

813
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 2: trips to Washington and Utah.

814
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: Not ideal. Moving on, USC, let's go down to LA.

815
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: I picked Utah at USC as the swing game for

816
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 2: the Trojans. Now, this is one of those examples where

817
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: your biggest game is also your swing game.

818
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: USC has to win the PAC twelve South. This year.

819
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: Everything has fallen their way, the schedule's fallen their way.

820
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: Their biggest challenger, as many saw it, is dealing with

821
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: NCAA investigation right now and their USC so they should

822
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: be the favorite every year to win this division. They

823
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: got to win this team, and if they don't, independent

824
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: of what the record ends up being, you know what,

825
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna call for anyone's job in June. They

826
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: need to win the PAC twelve and PAC twelve South

827
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: at the very least this game. This is the toughest

828
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: schedule spot and I think it's the toughest game overall

829
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: aside from the Notre Dame game Utah at USC in

830
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: Week six.

831
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: This is Southern Cow's sixth game in a row.

832
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: Schedule Dynamic Alert whereas Utah has a buye the week

833
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: before this, So it's not the best of times to

834
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 2: draw your toughest of competition. And remember in the SEC

835
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: or maybe even the Big Ten, if you're looking at it,

836
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: you know, if you're Ohio State or Bama, I got

837
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: some wiggle room I can afford to lose a game.

838
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: I'll just make up for it. I'll have strong opponents

839
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: on the back end. I'll have a conference championship game.

840
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 2: You don't have that wiggle room in the Pac twelve.

841
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: The perception of the conference is such that you have

842
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: to be perfect or as close to perfect as it gets,

843
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: which means you can't be losing.

844
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: Games like this.

845
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough. You gotta suck it up, you

846
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: gotta win it. So I'm going to take the Utah

847
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: game for USC now. As for Washington, I'm not gonna

848
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: go with a conference game at all. The Washington Huskies,

849
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: as I said earlier in the show, could very well

850
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 2: be favored in every game they play. There are two

851
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: games in question. The first one is the one we're

852
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: about to talk about at Michigan in week two. The

853
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: other one is later on down the road against Oregon.

854
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: And these are games that could be dogs in, they

855
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: could be a favorite in. As of right now, they

856
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: are a favorite in Week two, and this is the

857
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: swing game to me. Washington at Michigan pretty rare match

858
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: up here week two.

859
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: That's the swing game. It's an out of conference game. Obviously.

860
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: If Washington comes into the Big House and wins, I

861
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: can't overstate enough what it would do for perception.

862
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: This whole week too slate for the PAC twelve.

863
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 2: Has Washington going to Michigan, It's got Oregon going to USC.

864
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 1: There are some other notable games.

865
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: I don't have the helmet grid schedule in front of

866
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: me right now, but it could either make or break

867
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve. Unfair though that may sound, it could

868
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: do it that early in the season again, given the

869
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: vulnerable perception of that conference. But this this Week two

870
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: game Washington and Michigan. Think about this. If they go

871
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: in there and win, well, obviously they've won a really

872
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: big game. They've won one of their toughest games.

873
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: You see.

874
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: They have several winnable games after that, and so it

875
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 2: could set them up for a nice little run to

876
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: get into that stretch where they end up playing Oregon

877
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: in Arizona State towards the end of the year. But

878
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: if they lose it again, there's no wiggle room in

879
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve. And so if they lose against Michigan,

880
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: you and I both know what the perception will be.

881
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: You'll probably share this perception.

882
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: You'll probably say, you know what, I don't think all

883
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: that too terribly highly of Michigan right now, and Washington

884
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: couldn't even go in there and beat them, And so

885
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 2: whatever they go back out west and do the rest

886
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: of the year, I'm going to have that in the

887
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: back of my mind. You couldn't even beat Michigan. How

888
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 2: am I supposed to take you seriously as a playoff contender?

889
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: And that's what's on the line. That's why that's a

890
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 2: swing game in Week two. It's big for Washington. But listen,

891
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: if I were an Oregon fan, I'd be pulling for

892
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 2: the Huskies in that game. If I were a Southern

893
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,959
Speaker 2: cal fan, I'd be pulling for the Huskies in that game.

894
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: They are represent more than just themselves in that game. Again,

895
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: you don't have to think that way. If you're in

896
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: some other conferences, you do have to think that way.

897
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: Right now.

898
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 2: After the PAC twelve. What about Utah? Utah bona fide contender.

899
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: They are going to be some folks preseason PAC twelve

900
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 2: South pick. I'm taking Arizona State at Utah in week

901
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: seven as the biggest swing game for the Utes.

902
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: It's a big swing moment. Really, it's not just swing game.

903
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: It's a big swing moment for them because it's one

904
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: of the hardest games to forecast. If you're looking on

905
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: the screen right now, so that like fifteen times tonight,

906
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: look at where this game is.

907
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: It's in week seven, it's Arizona State.

908
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 2: So they've got at USC before that, They've still got

909
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: Oregon down the road.

910
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: But what is Arizona State right now?

911
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: Arizona State could be a shell of themselves, or they

912
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 2: could have gotten surprising good news or no news being

913
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: good news, and they could be fully the team we

914
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: all expected them to be in preseason magazine season. And

915
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: if that's the case, this is a tough spot to

916
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: draw them. Coming off that USC game, that is super

917
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: Bowl territory for Utah. That game at USC October that's

918
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 2: super Bowl territory. Well, as is the case usually when

919
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: we talk about a super Bowl in college football, it's

920
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: and who do they play the next week? Let's check

921
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: you who they play the next week. Well, you got

922
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: Arizona State. That's not the easiest draw in the world.

923
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: The reason it's a hard forecast is because it may

924
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: end up being such that you're favored by three touchdowns

925
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: because Arizona State has completely cratered, or maybe they'll be legitimate.

926
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: So you give me that game, Arizona State at Utah.

927
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 2: That's in week seven and the last one I wanted

928
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: to touch on out West. UCLA's got a tougher schedule

929
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: in the South than most of their other PAC twelve

930
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: South brethren. They've got a game. It's gonna be off

931
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: the radar. This is not going to be a national game,

932
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: but I think it's one of a very very and

933
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting to me only because of the dynamics.

934
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: It is UCLA at Arizona. It's week six. Think about

935
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: how we kind of.

936
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: We reason all this in our minds. Look at the

937
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: opening to this schedule.

938
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: A lot of you would say their toughest game is

939
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: for them in week two. The rest of the country

940
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: will call September fourth week one, but UCLA has scheduled

941
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: Hawaii in August and so they will I think, be

942
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 2: one to oh. Then they've got a little stretch here.

943
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: They play LSU. They will be less than a touchdown

944
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 2: underdog in that game. We told you that long before

945
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: it came out. They'll be favored against Fresno, They'll be

946
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: favored at Stanford. And then you've got Arizona State there,

947
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 2: which will be around to pick them as we see

948
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 2: it right now, and so you've.

949
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: Got a chance there.

950
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be the wildest of scenarios if UCLA were

951
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: to start one to oh, two oh three, oh four,

952
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: oh five, oh or four and one even would be

953
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: a very good start.

954
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: And then they go to Arizona.

955
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 2: Now, I don't think if you're looking at the screen,

956
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: it takes a rocket scientist to figure out why this

957
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: would be a swing game. It's not because we expect

958
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: a ton from Jedfish in Arizona and five bucks. If

959
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: you could name the new Arizona head coach before we

960
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: just said his name, seriously, you deserve it. It's not that

961
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: we expect a whole lot out of them in year one.

962
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: It's what happens if Chip Kelly and UCLA lose that game.

963
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: Do you see the next three opponents on that schedule.

964
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: You go into a tail spin really quickly because you

965
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: lose at Arizona, they send you right back out on

966
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: the road to Washington, and then you get to come

967
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: home and play Oregon, and then you get to go

968
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: back out on the road to play Utah, and then

969
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: Colorado just feasts on whatever is left on the carcass

970
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 2: at that point. I'm not guaranteeing that. I'm just saying

971
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: you and I both know that's the way that could

972
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 2: very well play out. So these are some really interesting

973
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: swing games. I know some of you don't.

974
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: Get into PAC twelve football.

975
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: I would encourage you, being that this will be a

976
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: renaissance here and all, I would encourage you to watch this.

977
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: A lot of you gamble on this, a lot of.

978
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 2: You play day to day fantasy and week to week fantasy,

979
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: and maybe you have a different kind of rooting interest

980
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: in then some of your fans have packed twelve programs.

981
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: I think college football is the best when it matters nationwide. Now,

982
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: you and I may wholeheartedly differ on our strategy on

983
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 2: how to make that happen.

984
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: You're an expand the playoff type.

985
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: I am a make better hires type including commissioner. So

986
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: he's been there about fifteen minutes. We'll see how much

987
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: that pays off. But these are very intriguing. And what

988
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 2: I love to do in December is I love to

989
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: look back on our swing games and I love to

990
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: see how right we were, How impactful were these swing

991
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: games or do we look back on a say, oh utah.

992
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 2: As it turns out they skull drug Arizona State fifty

993
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: two to three, not really a swing game at all.

994
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: All that swung was the door.

995
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: And then Arizona State got tossed out of it. But

996
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 2: that's fun to watch.

997
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: All right. That's our show tonight. Thank you for watching.

998
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: A reminder our big calls to action right now to

999
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: keep the show free is follow the social accounts at

1000
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: late kick Josh and make sure we are subscribing to

1001
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 2: the YouTube channel, liking the videos and leaving five star

1002
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: reviews on the podcast. And Colin, I think that's about it.

1003
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 2: You don't even have to vendmo us any money. That's

1004
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 2: all we're asking for now. If you want to, we'll

1005
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: have a separate conversation. And you know what, let me

1006
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: put this bird in your ear as we close it too.

1007
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: This is informal.

1008
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: This is as far as I can tell, it's not

1009
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: company sanctioned yet, want to put it out there. You

1010
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: have my contact information, you see it at the bottom of

1011
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: the screen, Joshpait seven to zero six at gmail dot com.

1012
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: Let's say you're out there and you're working for a

1013
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: fairly sizable let's call it a regional or a national company,

1014
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 2: and you've got some discretionary income and that advertising.

1015
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: Budget of viewers.

1016
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: And you look at this show, and I know I

1017
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 2: have this thermos on set, but I can promise you

1018
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff is not sponsoring this show. And

1019
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: if you look at this wall behind me, and you

1020
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 2: look at this monitor, and you look at that logo,

1021
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: and you look at that lower third, look how clean

1022
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: it is. There's no company name, there's no advertising. It

1023
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be permanent. Now, we're not going to

1024
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: go into partnership with something that we don't endorse. For instance,

1025
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: I won't endorse alcohol in the show because I don't drink.

1026
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: However, I've downed a mountain do or two in my time.

1027
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: I've eaten at a ton of restaurants, I've driven a

1028
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: ton of cars, and so I know you guys are

1029
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: out there.

1030
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: Many of you have asked me about it before I.

1031
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: Had to tell you no in the past. All I'm

1032
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: saying is things may be changing. We're not going to

1033
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: make this thing look like the side of a NASCAR either.

1034
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: Whether if we find one or two.

1035
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: Major advertising partners that want to get on board and

1036
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: have millions of impressions per week during the fall with

1037
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: a very concentrated audience of you guessed that hardcore.

1038
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: College football fans. Hit me up.

1039
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: I'll put you in touch with the right people and

1040
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: we'll get the ball rolling on that. I think that's

1041
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: fair and that's it, and that's all for Director Emeritith,

1042
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 2: Colin Noah, and our entire crew in Fort Lauderdale. Here

1043
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: is me being the first to wish you a happy

1044
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: early start to your week.

1045
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: We'll see you back here Thursday night.

1046
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: God bless