WEBVTT - We Invented The Assassination (with Nore Davis) 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:04.480 He knows how to kind of be cool. Like there 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:06.760 are moments where like Anthony back it's cool, and then 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:09.520 you you see them faces he makes and the weird 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:11.719 stuff he says to me like this, Nick ain't cool 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:15.280 cool with his shoulders are too sharp bagage, Like what's 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:17.840 going on with you, bro? And like you're doing roles 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:20.560 that like like yeah, a mile A mile was the 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.000 one that was just like he was on Maya. He 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:24.840 was on my radar since I was like, something wrong 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.400 with this. I don't trust. I don't trust Anthony Maddie, 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:39.560 and I don't trust nobody who trusts Anthony. Chips in 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:53.440 your quality bears are racist party martial stuff. I can't 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:59.560 tell me. Yep, yep, yep, there it is there. It 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:03.600 is like these and gentlemen, welcome to another phenomenal episode 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:07.560 of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.280 in deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:15.360 we finally work to prove that ma Herschela Ali will 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:19.560 never be Blade until he's ready to stop paying his taxes. 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.520 Blade don't pay no taxes. Ma Herschela funk on them 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.920 prayers five times a day. You need to be skipping 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.680 taxes five times a day. As far as I'm concerned, 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.480 that's the way it's gotta go. If you want to 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:35.839 be the next Blade, the next day Walker ma Herschela Ali, 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.959 I am your host Lankst and Kerman attacking decent people 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:43.520 as always good god fearing men. I'm coming for their 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:47.080 throats unnecessarily. It's how I behave. It's the way I 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.960 am every week. For you all to keep pretending like 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.480 your shocks is really on you and you're the idiots 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:55.560 at this point. If this is the way that you've 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.920 interpreted things, you know who's not an idiot. You know 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.680 who's not a who doesn't fall from my Shenana gives 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.040 every week the way you dummies do. It's my guest today. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.360 He's phenomenal, one of my favorite comedians, one of my 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.120 favorite people to just chop it up with whenever we're 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.640 in the same place. He's so funny. You've you've seen 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:17.720 his half hour on Comedy Central, You've seen him perform 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.760 on Two Dope Queens on HBO. He's been in all 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.320 the stuff. He's been on almost every HBO show. For 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.800 like two to three minutes, he broke up that goddamn 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.800 succession family. They were a good white family until he 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.600 got involved. He's so funny, you're gonna love him. Please 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.519 give it up for my guest, Mr Nori David Hey, 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:39.240 gang gang gang gang gang gang gang gang legs. What's up, 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:44.720 baby dog feel I'm feeling good man. That's right man, 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.760 that hershaw. You guys can't pay your taxes, my nigger 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.680 like you like, that's why they've taking any time on 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:56.280 that movie too much of upright citizen Man's like they 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.440 need him to go a couple of years without taxes. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:05.480 Being fast blaze dog like, ain't no black man, that's 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.200 our only super hair Like, Yeah, he's just like he 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:12.280 out here killing fanpilies and ship. Yeah, especially after that 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:17.080 that Falcon Winter Soldiers ship, where like Falcon was truly 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:21.040 coming as close to coning as you possibly came. You 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.839 just brought me back, bro. I have like I had 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:25.840 this bit I started, I wrote in the pen. I 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.520 didn't bring it back. I really feel like Anthony Mackie 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:33.760 was created by Hollywood. He was manufactured like ever since 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.480 that ship with eight Mama naked. Like he's not a rapper, 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:40.240 but we had so many rappers during that time and 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.240 like jay Z could have walked in, Naas could have 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:47.480 walked in, but no, we had Anthony fucking Mackie sent 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.880 him from the Hollywood Michip like constructed he was killed. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.160 He was like, he's a black Kendall and and then 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.400 if you ever heard him talk, you're like, you know, 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.920 who is this nigger? Like he from Like he's so weird. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.320 And then he's because he's from New Orleans. So so 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:07.200 you should be like cool, yeah, looking cool like wheezy 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.200 or something like, Yeah, if you trust Anthony Maggie, I'm 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:16.040 gonna shoot you. Classic future line. Can't trust him shoot them. 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:20.840 Speaking of shooting you, you came to us with a whoa, 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:24.800 this is an edgy conspiracy theory. This is one that uh, 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.400 it's dealing in the now in a way that that 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.600 that's gonna be dangerous conversation. But you know what, I'm 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.599 a bad boy. And oh there's a lot of puns 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.520 flying around already. But you said, and this is a 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:44.479 fun one. You said, my mama told me Puffy killed 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:51.839 the notorious b I g yeah, Langstone, I will proudly 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:56.920 stand on my hill and I will die unless puppets 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:02.200 by puppet By and I got platinum album. Yeah, I'm 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:08.200 definitely gonna get hit with that, fair enough. Yeah yeah, 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:09.880 So of course you want me to break down what 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.040 we could do. I would love you're telling me you 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.600 already believe it, you're in it. I want to know why. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.920 I want to know where all of the ship break 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.520 it down? All right, so Ready to Die came out 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.440 and then Life after Death. I mean it's right there 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:28.239 in the album, going back to Calli. In the audio skit, 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.880 Puff is waking up Biggie and Biggie just like he 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.599 just waking up, Like say, Puffy, all we gotta flight 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:38.200 to l A. Like he's so to get him on 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.320 this flight where it's like any real nigga just let 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.360 the Niger sleep, like there's so many other times of 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.520 flights to go. There's no boarders to go back to Cally. 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:55.200 But Puff insisted, big bang, oh big Calli. He said, 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:59.240 well we want Cally big they even know he even 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.640 know he was on the Cally. But but for the 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:03.240 right on there, like, yeah, nig I got this flight 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:04.880 for you. You're gonna you're gonna die. I mean you're 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.400 gonna go to You're gonna go to Cally. You say 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.800 what what what what like a Kelly and then he 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.839 going to the song. So that's evidence number one right there, 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.760 Like they snitched on himself right there, to your to 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.440 your point, there's something really interesting and the fact that 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:24.159 these multi millionaires are so concerned, one in particular, is 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.479 so concerned with the possibility of missing a flight and 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.760 having to pay a change feed. You know what, I'm saying, 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.720 You've got the money that you can afford to miss 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.960 a flight because this man was tired from exactly and 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:38.960 and I'm feeling it during that time. I guess we're 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.480 not private jet puff yet. I guess we like we 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.160 rented that video and the hypnotize and then we had 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:47.080 to give it back, right so okay, So but yeah, 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.080 like if you I don't know, I just don't ever 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:55.200 seen or felt a nigga being so urgent you get 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.240 on this flight, Like niggas don't wait niggas up to 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.680 get on the flight. That's wild with me. That's why, 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.280 like I puff want him to get in that flight 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.960 so bad, like lead, if we have a safe flight together, 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.280 we're going somewhere, and then you're not at the gate, 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.120 I'm gonna text you be like all right, boom and 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:11.800 then you ain't make it, like damn, I guess he'll 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.880 get on the next one. I'm not gonna yo yo yo, 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.120 l get up, Come on, come on, because I need 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.400 you to get there, and then you know, we get 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.960 dressed and then there's going to be the boxing thing 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:24.920 because I can't have you late because if you're late, 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.520 then you're gonna miss the boxing show. You're gonna mix 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.440 that show, and then you're not gonna be in a 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.160 car at the same time that I need you to 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:35.920 get to at that light and the box the boxing 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:40.920 was was popped. That was I mean, no, But wasn't 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.760 Biggie going somewhere though he Biggie was coming from And 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.760 this is us jumping a little ahead, but Biggie was 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:52.000 going to a Quincy Jones party, the Jones party that 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:55.360 night that was located at what is now and maybe 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:59.240 it was back then the Automobile Museum in Los Angeles 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:05.080 on basically Willshire in Fairfax. That's where they were that evening. Okay, 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:10.240 so I'm mixing up my of the scenes of the car. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.520 But Biggie was in that one, so I know that 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.000 like he was in it, but it wasn't a box 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.120 of yet that was that was correct? Yes, thank you 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.160 so yeah, so the skit tells it, and the other 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:24.280 one is right after that happened years later. There's always 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:29.440 this you know, Life after Death, Ready to Die, Remastered, Remastered, remastered, 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.720 and so bad boy was able to get much more 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:37.800 money from his death than him being alive. I believe 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:39.920 like he and then, like you could just hear Puff 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:44.000 as he raps. I mean, he wants to beat him 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.920 so bad. I feel like there's this fettest size and 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.960 thing of like I love you so much, like some 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.559 Selena ship. Like I feel like this is our black Selina, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:57.160 Like he's our fair like a fan fan, like he 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.360 would write his raps and I'm just talking about the 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.160 energy of stuff from the videos. Bro, this is my 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.600 sound crazy, but like I just felt like he's that's 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.560 Selina ship, like I love him and all this ship 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.200 and it's just like, yo, you'll make more money with 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:12.040 him gone, and like and like just leave his history 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.319 right there after Life after Death and then yeah, I 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.560 really feel like he was in and he was on it, man, people, 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:23.319 I think I think that remains one of the most 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:27.200 interesting arguments that people make in relationship. Puff doing the 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:31.479 thing is is the fact that this dude who otherwise 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.760 is not particularly talented. You know what I mean. We're 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:38.080 not talking about a dude who like he's a mogul, sure, 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.600 but what the fund does that actually mean? We're talking 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.440 about this mogul narcissist. Man. He's a nurseless like even 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.800 right now, like he is on like he's starting beef 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.720 with Jamaine Duprix, like leave that nigga alone, like dog, 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:55.000 like what are he doing? But that's Puff where like 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.400 and I'll be feeling bad for his kids too, because 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.480 like you're not gonna outshan Puff Puff and Puff. And 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:02.559 you can feel that where he's getting to that age like, 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.880 n I'm still here bad boy all day, my ma, Mama. 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.440 It's like, bro, you come on, man, you had your time, 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:13.040 your great relax, but no, I can't relax. I can't 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.240 stop bad boy. He says that I can't stop, like 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.000 he's been saying that and he's literally not stopping. And 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.360 I feel like he was never gonna ever outshine Big 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.679 ever and and Big wrote his lyrics and stuff like that, 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.800 he was always going to be under Big shadows, so 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.000 it was perfect for him to come out and that 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.600 White and Dance. I mean this, I don't know the 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.960 day of this conspiracy happened, but it was just like 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.440 it's still to clicking years later. I mean I did 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.199 feel sad, like when Biggie Dad, when Paul was in 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.440 White Dance at the MTV Music Wards all that. Yeah, 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:45.760 and then later on you're like, wait a minute, so okay, 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.800 you're you're getting to something I think really important here 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.480 in terms of your I guess tracking your your memory 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.400 of this, your experience and this. You're saying that it 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.320 wasn't an immediate conspiracy theory that lived with you. It 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.240 was you. You watch this happen, you felt that you're 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.600 from New York, so I have to with some Biggie 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:08.880 was was a lot. It meant something to sway, Yeah, 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.040 you got jay z d MX for me and then 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.800 you know big yeah. So so you you got this 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.880 iconic person who dies and you're not going like puff 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:23.600 Daddy did that? No, No, that is not the twist 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.920 in the beginning, though the twist comes later, but like, yeah, 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:30.160 you know the typical mystery movie ship, like you never 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.840 expect who's gonna be and you're like it was your 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:38.120 man's right behind you. The whole time, nigger. That's so yeah, 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:39.960 it came later to me. You know when you and 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:41.960 your homies union Nick is just chopping it up. And 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:45.320 then I mean, my boy kept like playing that skit 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.400 over because I was I think it's two thousand and 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.480 fourteen when I was about to do my first album, 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.160 Home Game, and I was just listening to like mad 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.320 hip hop skits and then that one we used always 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.400 re enacted that Yo. I'll be like, Yo, get up, nigga, 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.120 get up, you gotta gotta kill you, and then like 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:07.520 killed and then yeah, all right, wait whoa puff? Whatno? 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:11.520 I'm sing? Yeah, we joking just like helped me and 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.240 you and joking, and I think it maybe it carried 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.840 into the barbershop. But like he was also my homie 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.559 was strong on the opinion also, and I was just like, 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.640 yeah that should click, bro, and I was just like, yeah, 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.680 this this nigga killed nig and then I just kept 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.000 I just kept watching Puff moves after that, and you know, 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:30.800 his sysic behavior and I'm like, I mean, how are 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:32.720 you going to find somebody that's not like they never 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:37.000 found no killer. Same thing with um Tupac. Still to 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.319 this day, there's still doing movies about like there was 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:43.680 one with Forest Whitaker and Johnny Depp. That was one. Yeah, 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.280 I tried to wash down the plane. I was just like, 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:50.199 what is it like some well, what it is that 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:54.040 she getting two uh stars in the twilight of their 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:59.480 careers attempting to revitalize their image in Hollywood for different reasons. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.400 Up Is burned quite a few bridges and Forest Whittaker 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:06.720 never he never fixed that eyeball, and I felt like 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:11.280 they needed to do something different in whatever that this was. 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.480 I'm more than the guyfather hardlem I could do this 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.560 and all I was like, no, man, just yeah, we 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.240 have a biggie story for you, and you want big 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.120 two back story. Yeah I didn't finish the film, but 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.960 good for you. Yeah, I couldn't. Like it was just 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:29.600 another unnecessary angle and uh yeah, so I feel like 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.880 the killers right there, man. I mean, yeah, Puff got 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.880 married J Blige, but he never had like Mary was 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.120 never a threat to him. I don't know, you know, 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.080 and you know we're stand up. So we always feel 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.160 that energy from the O G s of like that 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:46.560 whole black male only one Highland, that energy, you know 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.080 what I'm talking about, Like that type of Ship. That's 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:50.760 why I always fun with you and like Sam and 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.079 everybody else like, because I always felt like, hey, we're 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:54.800 in this together, we're having fun. And then you go 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:56.920 to them nigas like Ship. You know, I'll cut your 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:02.000 goddamn throat. Yeah, say, I do think that's something worth 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.080 articulating I guess to our audience a little bit that like, 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.360 there is a culture particularly, I would say the same 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.400 thing comedy in general. But yeah, I think black comics, 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.280 because there are fewer of us, we feel it probably 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:19.840 more prevalently than than even our our white counterparts do. 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:23.040 Of just like you think that this is a community, 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.520 you think you're building and growing next to people, and 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.040 they're truly are motherfucker's out there who want to see 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:36.480 your downfall. And then at every turn, yes, given the end, Yeah, 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:39.240 pun intended that prey for my downfall. That's right there 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:43.120 on Life at the Death Biggie Biggie right there. Yeah. 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.680 So I won't name names. I guess i'd be nice 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:47.560 today because I love name of names. I'll go fun. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:52.200 But there's multiple stories of all the comics blowing up 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.920 the stage and then introduced the next comment like hey, 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.600 nigg and then letting them go. And that is and 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.080 that's been and I'm talking Kings of comedy death gen 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.960 days and you know it still happens to this data 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.720 comments and so to give you audience, some backs are 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:11.640 like there's that energy of like, who's this little nigga coming, 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.000 because they're gonna take everything that's supposed to be mine. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.920 One of my uh, you know, Boston is that is 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:23.120 where I cut my teeth at least for a few 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.480 years in comedy. I don't like to get Boston very 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.680 much credit, but I did spend some time. They're doing 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.600 comedy and one of the there's not a lot of 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.920 black rooms in Boston. It's just a white city. Some 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.160 means that comedy tends to be pretty white out there, 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.960 but there is one black room in particular that everybody 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.200 tries to play or figures out whatever. And the first 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.120 time I went down there, I've been doing comedy for 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.000 years at this point, went down there, introduced myself to 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:52.160 the dude who runs the room. I go, yo, I've 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:54.400 heard a lot about this place. I want to get up. 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.320 What can I do? He's like, man, I'll put you 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.960 up tonight. You know, he's grilling me. He's doing the 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.440 whole thing, but he's making it seem like I'll take 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.680 care of you, you know, we'll see what you got whatever, 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:09.640 and then introduced me after like twenty minutes of hosting 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.720 where it was just him telling people to shut the 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.360 funk up, like not in a fun silly way, but 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:18.920 just like bombing and scolding motherfucker's but then introduced me 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:23.240 as your first comic, has never done comedy before, Let's 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.320 see what you can do, and then fun and not 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.680 even my name correctly, you know what you didn't say, 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.200 and so now is always like merm is mermai nig 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.680 like setting you up to fail, Like you all people 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.320 understand that. We try to describe that energy. You're like, 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:44.520 why y'all, why y'all doing me? Like y'all think it's 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:48.160 like what who hurts y'all family? And like I heard story, 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.040 but ahead continue. No, I mean that's pretty much it. 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.200 And it's not one of those things where it's like 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:57.560 I showed up with a disrespectful energy. Yeah, I showed 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.840 up an hour earlier. I shook your hand, I had 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.320 a drink with you. You know what I mean? We 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:06.680 did books, snacks. Does anybody want a snack? Like Nigga's 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.639 just like this, like and they probably like try to 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.639 get on your skin color and ship like is that energy, bro, 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:17.119 It's like I can't. So yeah, so I feel that 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:22.240 energy from Puff. I always felt that even like the 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:26.080 whole source of wards you know you have those are 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:30.040 the two titans, Puff and Biggie going again shook and 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.600 pop right there, Like that was just the clash of 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:34.600 the titans. And you know we're talking nineties, so I 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:36.680 think I'm in family matters. This is all later when 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.480 I'm like, oh, look at the Source magazine. I'm reading 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.159 Maybe and m and looking at YouTube and stuff in 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.640 hearing from like Nigga's in the barbershop, But like, yeah, 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.119 I was like part of the family matters. So I 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:49.320 didn't know. But but again, like you just started investigating, 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.720 like you just become the small little detective, like okay, 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.600 clock that you start clocking things, because I was clocking 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:59.439 his energy and then every other I'll say every what 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:03.840 For three years there was a remaster version of Biggie's 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.879 album Yea, And if it wasn't a remaster, it was 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.000 like Puff doing remixes where he was like using old 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.080 Biggie verses and growing them on with new people, and 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.960 it's like, yeah, you're getting a lot of money here, 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:21.080 big big man, so much. You hearing me so much? 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.680 The same thing. Where's happening right now? Like where whoever's 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.040 in charge of pop smoke, you know, like putting this 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.840 person of stuff. I'm like, and I love that tattoo 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.199 that what's his name? You know I'm talking about like 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:38.560 the multiple talented Silk Silk Silk Sonic like Anderson Anderson 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.359 Pac thank you man, yes, like where he was like 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.320 if I died, leave my ship alone, right Like, Like 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.880 I'm like that too, that I always record every set 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.280 of like just leave my jokes. They don't new Norrie 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:54.600 Davis and he got another hour coming out, like somebody 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.399 on my side really please get them. Then you have 0:18:57.560 --> 0:18:59.359 permission to come to the house like yeah, I'm gonna 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:01.439 need you all to stop this. It's just gonna be 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.120 clips and you being like so what a ladies saying 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:11.000 we gotta need birthdays in the house. What women? What 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:16.199 they toes right, don't they toes out? Shit? Yeah? Please, 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:19.000 I give you permission on this podcast to shut that 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:20.840 down and you can play it for whoever in my 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:25.800 family or friends getting my ship. But yeah, so Puff 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:31.840 is narcissistic, narcissistic energy, and that audios get a big 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:36.600 not waking up and like about the misses flight. She's 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.840 just letting miss his flight. Maybe be a different time, 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:44.080 maybe maybe he would miss his quote unquote death. You know, yeah, 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:48.480 I think that's basically where I stand at emotional that 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:51.760 oh yeah, the albums and I think, yeah, so yeah, well, 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.040 let me ask you this, and I'll ask you this 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:58.920 before we go into break. You're saying you you definitively 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:02.600 sort of landed on is is has there ever been 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:06.600 anything that you feel like Puff has done in the 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.880 time since you sort of landed on this theory that 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.600 besides the making the money over and over again off 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:16.080 of Big his name, that has felt like a clue, 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.720 you know what I mean, Like a Mr Policeman, The 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.800 clues were all there kind of energy that that he's 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:24.159 left behind. I think we've probably just come to my 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:29.240 her right now, like the typical anything his mom needs, 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:32.360 I got you, But it still feels cold. It's kind 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:34.520 of like you know that that cold kill is shaking 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:37.720 your mom's haying like you know, I got you everything 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.080 you need, and you know you look at his hand. 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.080 It got big blood on it. I don't know about 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:45.240 that energy. I felt like because every time Big Mom 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:47.639 talks in the interview, she's like, you know, Puff, like 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:50.119 she doesn't really get on like what Puff is doing 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.720 for her, but you know, she's just doing what she's 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:54.760 supposed to do, like just talk about her son and 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:57.640 his legacy and that. So that that kind of gave 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:00.320 me a little trigger of like, I don't know, man, 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:02.600 I don't I don't feel the genuine love that he 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.520 has for Big Mom. Who am I to question it? 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:09.120 But I'm just saying, like the energy I closed the detective, 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:11.359 I would get into it. I will say that that 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:13.439 sort of to that point. One of the things that 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.040 I've always clocked with the way that people have talked 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.200 about Big is there's like four or five different dudes 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.879 who would be like, Big was my best friend. It 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.960 was my best friend in the entire world. And you've 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:29.080 never once heard Big say that about any And he 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.320 was all been interviews too. He never talked about the 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:34.520 Big Yeah. He was never like Puff, He say Puff 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:36.480 is my man, Yeah, my man. Yeah, he put me 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.960 on yes exactly because yeah, because you're right, thank you. Yeah, 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:41.880 because Big was all about the hospital. He's like, I'm 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:44.680 only gonnal about rap like and he was hustling. Then 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.159 Puff Is like gave him away out, you know, and 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:48.720 he was like all right, let's do this ship. Then 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:50.879 his man's was like Ridius right here, and I was 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:54.760 like Little Seas and Little Sees he's like quiet in interviews. 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.760 I don't know there's something there that like Lucy's to 0:21:57.760 --> 0:21:59.560 be looking scared at me in interviews like don't say 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:05.119 no ship, bro, like like whatever, maybe Puff got you on. 0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:10.280