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Speaker 1: give it up for my guest, Mr Nori David Hey,

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Speaker 1: baby dog feel I'm feeling good man. That's right man,

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Speaker 1: Daddy did that? No, No, that is not the twist

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Speaker 1: in the beginning, though the twist comes later, but like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: man's right behind you. The whole time, nigger. That's so yeah,

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Speaker 1: her reaction was. Hilarious, Bro, you still, I know. I'm

423
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: feel so bad for that because that's all bigg He's fault,

424
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: because you know that's all big He's funk. He loved.

425
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: We didn't say he was a good guy exactly. We

426
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: just a man who was murdered. Yeah, okay, go ahead,

427
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 1: I'm done. Okay, We're gonna take a break. We'll be

428
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: back with more Nori Davis and more, my mama told me.

429
00:23:43,280 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: And we are back. No, no, no, yeah, we're back

430
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: here with more Nori Davis more. My mama told me.

431
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: We're still talking about that that alleged murderer puff Daddy

432
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: alleged alleged Italic and his relationship to the notorious b

433
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: I G. I think we need to jump into some

434
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: of this research because you've already laid the groundwork for

435
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: some of the conversation. But I'd love to hear some

436
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: of your thoughts on the things that that I sort

437
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: of dug up as as I would say, support of

438
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: of your conspiracy. Really okay, yeah, yeah, none of this

439
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: is working against you. Okay, wow, see yeah, man, man,

440
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: Nigga's feel it, Doug, all right, let's see. I'm ready.

441
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: I'm ready. So March n Big is killed in a

442
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: drive by shooting. He's in a car leaving a Quincy

443
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: Jones party following Puff Daddy. This is a fact I

444
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: actually learned the Little Sea's interview. I'm glad you brought

445
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: him up. But Little c says that as they're leaving

446
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: the museum where this party is happening, they pull out

447
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: there following Puff. He's in a separate car. Puff goes

448
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: through a light that they don't make and while they're

449
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: sitting at the light, that's when the shooting happens. Four

450
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: shots in the Biggie. The last one is supposedly the

451
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: one that was fatal and Little Sees was in the

452
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: car a puff right or was season Big like he

453
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 1: was in the back though, yes, and yeah because the

454
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: the driver, I mean it was a hey. He went

455
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: right for the passage a side where Big was at.

456
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: And if you ever if somebody says follow me and

457
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: you see it turn yellow and that's your man behind you,

458
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: you stopped like every time that always happened, like, hey,

459
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: my nigga, follow me. It's yellow, like, let me stop,

460
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: so we get there together, not at all speed up

461
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: and it's biggie bro like it's biggie. We're not talking

462
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 1: about like your uncle like that. They're gonna meet me there, nigga.

463
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: He came to CALLI do you know Quincy concert and

464
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: that album came out Life with the Death, which is

465
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: like bubble it. But I really feel this ship was

466
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: a hit, Like I don't know, it was like they

467
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: were the Martin, Luther, King and Malcolm of hip hop

468
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: where these Titans is too we can't have too much

469
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: of this control and that's something like that's a supremacy

470
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: and that's another thing. But um yeah, if it feels

471
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: very like in house of like no man, I'm gonna

472
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: speed up and then gonna come back or what happened? No, no, no,

473
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: get him, nigga what I don't know? Driver go around

474
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: the block real slogan. Yeah, and if I'm if Lake said,

475
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: you're big young Puff, I'm in the car with you. Yeah.

476
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: Why why am I in a different car? Why you

477
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: guys aren't the president and the vice like you? My

478
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: man's right, Like, but even in the interviews, like Puff

479
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: put them on and Biggie's just like, you know, he's

480
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: like in his god element to where he doesn't know

481
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: he's got He's just like he just spit man like,

482
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: he just tells his stories. That's just like again, I

483
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: feel like it's that Selina moment of like he is

484
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: God and he will surpass me and I must take

485
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: him down. Yeah, I must, like you know so yeah

486
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: yeah yeah that whole car ship. Yeah that's another one

487
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: I did not I forgot about that. Thank you. Okay,

488
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: So let's take it a step further because apparently there

489
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: was an officer, a detective named Greg Cading, who was

490
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: assigned to work this case, the murder of Biggie Smalls,

491
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,959
Speaker 1: for three years. He investigated the case and he personally

492
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: believes that Puffy is responsible for Biggie's death bred some

493
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: not great white man, I assume because he's a cop.

494
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: But still he believes that Puffy is responsible. And he's

495
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: the type of trash white man that doesn't have power

496
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: to outpower whoever wanted Big gone because white then white

497
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: men have like that whole hey man shut all this

498
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: down like like like right now, like like Irving is

499
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: making a good stand, but that white man didn't pull

500
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: up on him yet till we're like nigger, Remember when

501
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: you put the hat on on stage, all that money

502
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: is ours. So if either you're gonna you're gonna get

503
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: down to lay then like so yes, and I feel

504
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: like he either got bought out or they they fucked

505
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: up his evidence. And if you haven't, the lead detective

506
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: have a fucking hunch on Puff. That's it. Thank you

507
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 1: for bringing that back to I forgot about that too. Yes, well,

508
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: let's let's unpack it has to say on this situation,

509
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: he says. And this is this is where it gets

510
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: a little complex, and in in terms of his quote un

511
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: responsibility as it is as it were in relation to

512
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: Biggie's death. But he says that Puffy actually paid one

513
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: million dollars to a crypt named Dwayne Keith. Keith D

514
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: was a street named Davis to kill oh one of

515
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: your family members? Uh, to kill both Tupac and Suge Knight.

516
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: He paid Keith the one million dollars to have this

517
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: this hit done now. Keith D then offloaded that responsibility.

518
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: He offloaded that job onto his nephew, another cript named

519
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: Orlando Baby Lane Anderson to do the shooting instead, but

520
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: his nephew only managed to kill Tupac so in, leaving

521
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: Shuge Knight alive. Suge Knight, then, now aware of what's happening,

522
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: hired a blood named Wardell Pucci Faus for thirteen thousand dollars.

523
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: They went from one million to thirteen k Wow, the

524
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: niggers can't get ship right with one mile, but the

525
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: only to kill Biggie And apparently thirteen was enough because

526
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: one of them did the the whole job and the

527
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: other one did not. And those guys were ever charged

528
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: for any of the murders or they were just like

529
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: in jail and died or something, or like they've just

530
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: been quiet, like yeah, So the great question. So now

531
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 1: Greg Cading that that officer we were talking about claims

532
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: that he actually got a confession out of Keith D.

533
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: But because the other two alleged murderers were dead by

534
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: the point that this confession happened, there was no way

535
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: for him to bring closure to this story. Basically, these

536
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: dudes died well before any accountability could be met in

537
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: my only Keith D's word and no other evidence. It

538
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: was to back it up. So it's just come on, dog,

539
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: come on, so ship. That even makes me go even deeper, like,

540
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: of course Sugar's gonna retalied off of that. Now, maybe

541
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: this could be strategic where Puff wanted this to happen,

542
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: where he knows that's going to happen, where it's like,

543
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 1: let me get a hit on them, and he probably

544
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: did not know they were gonna miss. But what Krypniki

545
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: gets a mill and then passes it down to his nephew.

546
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: I guess he didn't want to get his hands dirty

547
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: or bro, you got a million, like this is your job.

548
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: That was a weird hang up that I had in

549
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: the story as well, like it's a million dollars and

550
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: if you are the type of motherfucker that kills people,

551
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: you ain't you ain't a million dollar checks in other

552
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: places exactly unless he had a conscious and like, I

553
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: don't want nothing to do with this, Like is that

554
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: is that person alive? Like I have so many questions,

555
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: but like all of it feel again, all of it

556
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: is under the story of a hit ahead right ahead.

557
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: That Puff is definitely a part of Puffy's responsibility is

558
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: that he is the original instigator of the violence between

559
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: these two camps. That although obviously you know, if you

560
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: you know anything about the East Coast West Coast beef,

561
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: there was violence that happened before where Tupac was shot

562
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: at the studios where Biggie records. Biggie is there that night.

563
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: He blames Biggie for what happened. There's a lot of

564
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: violence that happens before this, but none of it is

565
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: necessarily traceable back to these two camps, until, as this

566
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: officer claims, Puffy decides that he's going to take action,

567
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: same building, different levels huge misunderstanding, which majority of all

568
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: how like, even when I got I fought Nigga's in

569
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: the hood and running, it was like a misunderstanding. Nika

570
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: thought I was talking ship and I was not. And

571
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: there it is now be fighting. It's like nobody's trying

572
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: to hear nobody out. It's like action like yeah, I do,

573
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: I kind of do want to plug getting like maybe

574
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: a strategical on Puff, like hey, I can knock out

575
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: two birds with stone get the money. But regardless, that's

576
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: just yeah, he's in it, man. He the mand's got

577
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: a little blood, definitely. Man definitely got the fingernails, man,

578
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: and he got to live with that, you know, saying

579
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: he gotta let's take it a step further, because that's

580
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: not the only quote unquote officer who says this. There's

581
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: actually Similarly, a former FBI agent Phil Carson claims that

582
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: the real target for the shooting the night of of

583
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: Biggie Small's death was actually Puff Daddy himself. That they

584
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: were not attempting to shoot Biggie Smalls. They were attempting

585
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: to shoot Puff got the car's mistaken and that's why

586
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: Biggie Smalls died. Wow. Okay, So then he also claims

587
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: that when Puffy discovers that this assassination, which was also

588
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: as this FBI agent claims, brought on by Shore Night,

589
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: he finds out that this assassination was was aimed at him,

590
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: he gets terrified that the information might come out and

591
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: he then pays off a number of l ap D

592
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: officers to make sure that the case was never properly solved.

593
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: Holy ship, see dog, this is blowing my mind. Antwait,

594
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: let us let this marinate, okay, because I can I

595
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: can see puff as the narcissist he is of, like

596
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: already know how people are gonna take this, and I

597
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: need to do this MTV fucking Awards dance. I can't

598
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: do the dance when niggas is an audience like mumbler,

599
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: like now I don't know, nigga, Now I don't know.

600
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: You pay the cup, nigga, Now you know he up

601
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: this that? But what you want? So right, that's so

602
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: dirry legs, I need a shower, fu, bro, who does that? Manute?

603
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: Like yeah so he So you ask somebody who's panicking

604
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: racing their tracks and we're talking FBI like we've all

605
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: seen the documents of what they did the King Jesus Christ, right,

606
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: so they do not funk around on their tracks of

607
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: what they're doing, like the the House of Hoover, fuck

608
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: j Hoover. So yeah, I believe these guys. Man. Why

609
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: would these white guys lie, why would they have to

610
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: cover anything up like we're past, We're like thirty years

611
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: after the whole sixties and racist Hoover. Now these are like,

612
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: these are FBI agents, Like all right, let's do a job,

613
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: let's do odd jobs. Let me do it the best

614
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: we can. And yes, to see that cops were paid off,

615
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: which they're not gonna hold water on some rich nigger.

616
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: They're not gonna hold that much water because it probably

617
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: wasn't that much money. It's like, Puff ain't mafia, the

618
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: samet BMF. But this is like, this is bad. He's

619
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: offering a lump sum which is not going to solve

620
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: their problems for the rest of their lives. It's just like, hey,

621
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: you buy your wife a nice dinner or some ship

622
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: or maybe like a car. Here's a new Ford. Yeah

623
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: you're going tonight. Yeah you know the new Cheesecake just

624
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: opened up. Take your wife. Oh man, I just feel

625
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: so filthy man fuck bro yeah yeah so yeah. So

626
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: let's take it a step further, because we've only been

627
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: talking about white guys up to this point. There is,

628
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,479
Speaker 1: in fact another person, a former bodyguard of Puffy named

629
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: Gene Deal Here we Go, also claims that he heard

630
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: Puffy say that in a conversation relating to to sort

631
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: of the building violence of the East Coast West Coast

632
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: beef that Puffy says he doesn't give a fuck if

633
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: Pock dies, he doesn't give a fuck if Big dies,

634
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: something has to change. Quote, come on, dog. And that's

635
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: the bodyguards line. The right bodyguards are the little flies

636
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: on the wall that people think they're not listening big

637
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: gass flies, but they yeah, exactly, brother, Oh god. And

638
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: then it just always brings me to that video that

639
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: everybody sharing on Twitter Instagram of Puff going I get

640
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: what I want. I'm a fucking monster. I get what

641
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: I want and he got it. He got it way

642
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: before that ship he got it. I don't gonna fun. Yeah,

643
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: he's a plain narciss is my nigger. I'm sorry, Like,

644
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: if I go to that part, I mean him, I'll

645
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: be faking ship like shake his hand like whatever. But

646
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: like no matter fact, I wouldn't. I don't know, I

647
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: don't think I don't want any of that energy. I'm lying.

648
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm lying. We're all morally compromised. Yeah right, yeah, morals

649
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: versus money. Right, Like it's like, hey, what what what hell?

650
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: Am I gonna stand on? Like in the spirit of

651
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: the biggie or is it just like you know, we

652
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: just we just talking. We're talking on the podcast. Great

653
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: episode so far. I love this. But yeah, see now

654
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: look I'm questioning my morals right now, Like going to

655
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 1: that door, I'm so torn, but because you think about

656
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: your own career and everything. But then it's also like nah, man,

657
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: like there's evil there. Like even when you go to

658
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: l A that like you know, I don't know if

659
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: you feel his lengthen like it's that energy of like

660
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: I won't kill any nigga here to get what like

661
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 1: lucky for you, you you got a wife, you got your child,

662
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: you got love, you got a nice love house. Like

663
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: if you have that, you're protected. But I feel like

664
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: single niggas and ladies and anybody they just like I

665
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: will slit what I gotta do. I'll cut. I'll cut

666
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: your life saying to getting this motherfucking door store that's

667
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: Hollywood door. And that's why I couldn't really like funk

668
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: with l A like that to stay live over there.

669
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: I could feel that energy in the air. Yeah, so yes, yes,

670
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what else to say. I

671
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: mean we can break down where he said, like yes,

672
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: he doesn't give a funk, like like I said, like so,

673
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: and this is not necessarily evidence in relation to two

674
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: Biggie himself, but there is other evidence of Puffy and

675
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: morally compromised positions. I think we would be doing ourselves

676
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: a disservice not to talk about the the Shine incidental, right.

677
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: Shine is the biggest rapper under bad Boy the next

678
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: Biggie Smalls as they're sort of like trying to to

679
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: coin him in the early two thousands, and then when

680
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: they go to uh, what is it new York Club

681
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: New York, It's called they go to Club New York,

682
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: they're hanging out, Puffy gets into it. And this is

683
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: according to Shine, years after he went to prison for

684
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: basically shooting up a nightclub. Right that, Yeah, this story

685
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: like when he's a politician stuff. But this is like

686
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: when he was still like kind of rapping, right, No,

687
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: this is post rapping. This is him just talking to

688
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: Fat Joe on like some Instagram ship. He basically says

689
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: in the interview that the entire incident was mostly instigated

690
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: by Puff, that Puff had issues with two dudes to

691
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: Brooklyn based dudes who Shane knew to be real motherfucker's

692
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: named Scar and Nino good names. No king characters, nigga.

693
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: What we that Scar and Nigga? No, we got real

694
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: life versions of them, Brooklyn. Yeah, they they bout that noise.

695
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: And that was Shine's point about these guys. He knew

696
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: these guys, he was actually cool with these dudes, that

697
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: he he had a relationship with these guys. But Puffy

698
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: got into it with these guys, presumably over something that

699
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: he still doesn't exactly know. And then when guns got drawn,

700
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: Seine pulled out his weapon in self defense basically as

701
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: he put it, in fear of his own life, and

702
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: started shooting, not because he was on some gang ship

703
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: riding for Puff, but more like me, did not know

704
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: that he was going to survive that evening ship, and Puff,

705
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: as you may know, then after the incident, opted to

706
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: get a separate lawyer to be tried separately from Shine,

707
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: to basically separate himself as much as possible from what,

708
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: at uh nearly days before, had been the largest artist

709
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: on his label. Bro we see that, you see the

710
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: track record. This man is good and like Loki Sloppia,

711
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: cleaning up his mess and making his seam and coming

712
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: out the victim. Yes, signs of a narcissist, my nigger,

713
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: Like he's a huge narcissist. I can see it. I

714
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: know them signs and he uh and like Seine is

715
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: not one of them. There's other coins that just got

716
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: thrown into the goddamn well like g dep you know

717
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: r I P he gone and like what happened to

718
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: his career ship the whole um loom one twelve black

719
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: rob all that man, Like anybody that saw the locks

720
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: have to like almost whoop this nigga ass to get

721
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: out the contract the locks is too there's too many niggas,

722
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: so he can't kill the clean let them go. And

723
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: they're young because they're crazy, I can't let them let

724
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: them go. But he probably wouldn't did something grimy as ship.

725
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: But oh my god, Yeah, is that the one with

726
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: um Jennifer Lopez too, Like she got mixed up in

727
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: with that, right. J Lo was hanging out that evening

728
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: when the incident transpired. Puff craps her hand, runts her

729
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: out of the club. Uh. It is also what some

730
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: claim is the initiating incident for their breakup. That's why

731
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: that's why Jaylo with Batman that but she's scared she

732
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: was she with Batman dogs like I'm gonna go and

733
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: stick with these uh these whites sound I'm gonna go

734
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: with Ben Athlete, these dunkin donut whites instead of these

735
00:42:53,520 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: uh tat blacks. You know that's that's that, bro? Yeah man, Okay,

736
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: the last piece of evidence that I'll bring up to you.

737
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: And this is less evidence and more just sort of

738
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: a logical progression to to some of what may have

739
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: ultimately landed on Puff's decision to and Biggie Small's life.

740
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: There are some who argue that because of the change

741
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 1: that Puffy saw coming in Bigg's career, as if you're

742
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: a big fan, you know that after Ready to Die,

743
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: he more or less had started to transition out of

744
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: the gangster wrapped phase in his life. He was less

745
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: interested in sort of making the same kind of music,

746
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: making the same kind of moves, being the same kind

747
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: of hustler street dude that he was previously, and much

748
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: more interested in making positive as close to positive as

749
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: the nigger from Brooklyn could make at that time. And

750
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: so Puff theoretically is beginning to see the transition in

751
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: Biggie Smalls and says that I'm not convinced that this

752
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: is gonna be profitable, It might be more profitable to

753
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: enter his life before he turns into this new god

754
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: fearing man, and thus does so and keeps him at

755
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: the stage that he left off at. Yeah, man, what

756
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,959
Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Drop, What more can I say? Doc?

757
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a He's a huge narcissist, narcissist planner,

758
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 1: and he can manipulate. He can manipulate his ass off.

759
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: He manipulate the public and hide his evidence so much

760
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: to where the public opinion will never be against him,

761
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: and it hasn't. So now we have now we me

762
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: and you and everybody were conspiracist, black conspiracis. But it's

763
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: just like, bro, then it's in the pudding, baby, it's

764
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: right there in the pudding. But he even knows that too,

765
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: that it's so far down the line, like yeah, those

766
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: two guys dead. So that guy's just here, say the

767
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: security guard, Like he probably can't he quoted, but you know,

768
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: who knows what's happening to him. He probably got beat

769
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: up or something that I for talking shit puff puff

770
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: at that reach man, And he's still on top and

771
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: remixing Biggie Ship and every goddamn year. We anniversary is

772
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: his birthday, anniversary is death. He extreme hits more money

773
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: in his pocket. Absolutely, it feels like the same way

774
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: that cities will will literally hire police officers to beat

775
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: the ship out of black people and then make a

776
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: street called Black Lives Matter Avenue. And it's like, I

777
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: don't know, bro, this feels like, yes, exactly what it is.

778
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: You're not exactly taking responsibility for the thing you did.

779
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: That's why we're so angry. They never take responsibly. All

780
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: we get his fucking documentaries and street names and money.

781
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: Never h I am sorry for going in the house

782
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: of Brianna Ta or I'm sorry for even going back

783
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: to um the guy that was about the Lucas Brothers

784
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: movie that brother um oh goddamn yeah ship him. But

785
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: the thank you, sir, thank you Fred Hanson, Like there's

786
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: never apology, and you know this country doesn't even believe

787
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: in apologies. That was another thing I read up on.

788
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 1: They they feel like it's a sign of weakness even

789
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: when they're fucking wrong. So the only sorry we get,

790
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: which is not enough to help our emotional scars, is

791
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: an HBO documentary which who knows if that money even

792
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: goes to the family that goes to production as me

793
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: and you're in TV, so we know it's not like, hey,

794
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell your story and they're like, all right,

795
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: well how much. It's like, no, we we're gonna tell

796
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: your story. And we gotta buyer, and the buyer paid

797
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: the crew that did everything, and then that's it. So

798
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: and then you know that that family gets sold on awareness.

799
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: The fund is awareness going to do when it's already

800
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: a wrap. It's over that my child ain't coming back. Man,

801
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: this world, bro, but you know this is this let

802
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: me this is good. This is good. This is good.

803
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: There's a whole lot of biggest, smallest mirrors. Not a

804
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: lot of profit. Not out of those murals except for

805
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: one person who seemed to be making the most money,

806
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: a man named Sean did he ca can I add

807
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: something us a little bit? This might be something also

808
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: where it was not able to clone yet you know

809
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: how they say like Chapelle came back. This is the

810
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: clone Chapelle like after he went to Africa, he diesel

811
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: different heads and everything. Maybe in the nineties that they

812
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: didn't have that clone aspect yet this is it's just

813
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: crazy conspiracy ship where I'm like, hey, you know, they

814
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: had to kill him. It had to be assassination because

815
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: you get more money if they're going because that you

816
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: could just see the gods here. But but hey, if

817
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: we can like kill him and then put the clone

818
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: back out there, then now we got Can you imagine

819
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: a clone Biggie. Now he's kind of skinnier, he's doing

820
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: he's doing R and B. He's not he's he ain't

821
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: got no more stories. You like slim sass commercials and

822
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,479
Speaker 1: they were were a helmet when you skateboard. He's he's

823
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: so weird like Brooklyn's far Yeah, do the drown stones.

824
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: Let let let Airbnb. Hey Airbnb, I'm Biggie, And what's

825
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: the best I'm biggest, small shop, local shop, each of vegetables.

826
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: And be quiet. That was so noisy because I don't

827
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: know why he's telling Mama, we're impressing my chees. Be quiet, Like,

828
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: who is that? I apologize? Uh, yeah, that's exactly. So, yeah,

829
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: that's something further where I think that clone aspect didn't

830
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, because he couldn't clone Biggie, and

831
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: so we had to let him die, had to let

832
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: him down. They had to kill him to get more money.

833
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna say one more break. We'll be

834
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: back with more, Nori Davis and more, my mama told me.

835
00:48:50,280 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: And we are back. Yeah, we're back here with more,

836
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: Nori Dave this more. My mama told me. We're still

837
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: talking about that goddamn killer puff. We need James. Somebody

838
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: put them in the seat, hands behind you with your friends.

839
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: Come on, man, he was this man's man. Let's play

840
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: a game. We have a very fun game. This is

841
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: this is our most classic game on the podcast, my

842
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: absolute favorite game. It's a game called white Ugly. You're disgusting.

843
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill you. Give me two white lies. It's

844
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: a fun game, Nori. Where I am going to introduce

845
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: to you a commonly held white conspiracy theory, a conspiracy

846
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: theory that white people tend to believe in quite a bit.

847
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: And what I would love for you to do is

848
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: tell me why you think this conspiracy theory is so

849
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: important to them? What are they up to? What are

850
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: these sneaky motherfucker's up to? You get it? I'm ready? Yeah,

851
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: this one, cool boy. I can't remember if we've done

852
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: this one before. I don't think we have but it's

853
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: a big one. It's a doozy. It's one of the

854
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: most jarring classic conspiracy theories. I think that's out there.

855
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: There are some people believe that the Holocaust never happened,

856
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: that it is a myth, it is fake. Why do

857
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: you think Nori white people are so committed to the

858
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: Holocaust being fake? That is classic white supremacy of not

859
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: allowing the Jews to have any type of power, just

860
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: be oppressed from being in the business of America because

861
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: I guess what supremacy is like straight white male, blonde

862
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, hale hydra type ship like not even like

863
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: that's what they are. And that's why they had to

864
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: kill Hitler man because he was like he was sucking

865
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: up America money. Like America's like, you look, I don't

866
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: care about these Jews, black likes this, just get this money.

867
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: It was like, no, everybody must die, and yeah, you

868
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: gotta kill this nigg even and then I was World

869
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: War Two. But yes, it's the same thing of right

870
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: now we're going through critical race theory where they're trying

871
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: to erase our history of an education because they fear

872
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: that the white kids will get beat up by the

873
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: black kids. If they find out we'll really have about slavery.

874
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. It's not more or less of fear

875
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: of the Jewish kids getting beat up or like them

876
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: beating up white kids. It's more of like you're oppressed,

877
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: we won't let you not. Niggas know like y'are not.

878
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: You're not the prophet, you're not the ones. So oh okay,

879
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: so not the one theory. If we allow the Holocaust

880
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: to exist, or if we allow slavery to be as

881
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: extreme as it it actually was in the Holocaust, to

882
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: be as violent and horrifying as it actually was, then

883
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: it does suggest that something is old to the people

884
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: who suffered that experience. And we're saying this is a

885
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: way of making things more level for the white that

886
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: want to stand supreme America. Yeah, and like so if

887
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: like it never happens. So what you're talking about, No,

888
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: you owe us because of Hollywood. I mean I owe

889
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: you not. We're talking about what books? Is it? It's

890
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: in the book right there in ninety the World History. Man.

891
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: I don't know about that book. I ain't write that book.

892
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: Who wrote that book? I'm right here standing on the

893
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: Capitol Hill. This is what we got we got the constitution.

894
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: Look in the Constitution where say that? Where I say,

895
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: please tell me where's say it? So I don't know

896
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: what y'all niggas Jewish people, what you're talking about, how

897
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: has never happened saving never happened out of here. So

898
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: it's it's oppression. So like that's why they hold onto it. It's, um,

899
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: it's control. So like the white man can still be one,

900
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: like little our founding files are still full white niggas

901
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: up on that rock, right, And that's the thing about supremacies, Like, yeah,

902
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: they like the allology of like the white man being

903
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,959
Speaker 1: the one, but capital is gonna cap Capital isn't gonna

904
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: have to do anything because it's still about making money

905
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: the most that they can without them working and uh

906
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: being greedy. Yeah, that's and that's the makeup of theory.

907
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: These points of oppression and violence are going to hurt

908
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: their pockets in some kind of way, yes, because it's

909
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: not a guarantee for being able to make more money

910
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: if you have to hold yourself accountable to race or

911
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: community that you've caused damage to. Yeah, fun facing money, Yeah,

912
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: it's like, um, you know, just like what companies now

913
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: like you're a racist company, is just like, wait, no,

914
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: we're not. And then like they start losing money, so

915
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: then they start playing phase like look at us, Chase

916
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: that we're at the Pride, look at us not rainbows here,

917
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: and it's just like it's bullshit, it's fake, you know

918
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like because they don't want to. It's

919
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 1: just about money. Like people forget, like the bus boycott

920
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: only work because they was losing money. It wasn't because

921
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: they cared about our skin and our face, our our

922
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: life or many on those busses and being like black people,

923
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: this ain't right what we're doing, man, this should be.

924
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: I always love a diverse but I'm bust eight, all right,

925
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 1: and I love to see Ms Charles in the bag

926
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: and I tell her go to the back and sometimes

927
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: she does, she doesn't, but you know it's color on here. Now.

928
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: This is bullshit. We gotta change this, Captain Noah All

929
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: white busses. Yeah, that this was like taking rise. They

930
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: was walking for like months and then they decide because

931
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: they was losing. That's all this country care about money, bro.

932
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: So if the Holocaust is real real, which it is,

933
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: but if it's like something they have to admit Jews

934
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: gonna pull up on something like no, we want this,

935
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: we want that, and they're gonna they're gonna get it.

936
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean should in Brooklyn City, Jews got like a

937
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: whole part like damn of Brooklyn, and they got their

938
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: own school bucks, they own cops and ain't nobody bothering them.

939
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: So there's that, you know, has there been many black

940
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: communities and one central party that happened, but you know,

941
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: and that's why that supremacies holding on to that theory. Yes, sir,

942
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:20,479
Speaker 1: all right, well ship, that's cool. Motherfuckom oh my god,

943
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: they gonna let me spill on my left. I ain't

944
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: see that coming. I think we did it. I think

945
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: I think we did the whole thing. This, This was

946
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: a lovely time. Could you tell the people at home

947
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: where they can find you what cool ship you have

948
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: going on? Yes? Yeah? Hit me up on Instagram at

949
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: Nori Davis. November five, I'm in Boston and check out

950
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: my latest tonight show a Parents on YouTube with Jimmy Fallon.

951
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: Check that out, four minutes of funk on that motherfucker's

952
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: so check that out. Share that ah yeah, and much

953
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: love man, Yo, Lankson, I love you bro. You know

954
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: you're the only thing you know that thank you for.

955
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm through And yeah, follow Nori, go check out his

956
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: tonight show appearance, Go go see him live. And as always,

957
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: you can follow me at Langston Kerman. And if you

958
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: want to send us drops, if you want to send

959
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: us your own conspiracy theories, if you just want to

960
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: say hurtful things and send it to me personally, you

961
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: can send it all to my mama pot at gmail

962
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: dot com. I read every email that gets sent, even

963
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: though I don't respond to quite a few of them

964
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: because they make me uncomfortable. I am still getting eyes

965
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: on all those bad boys, so I would love for

966
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: you to send them all my mama pot at gmail

967
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 1: dot com. Otherwise, by bitch chips in your fails, qual

968
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: bears are racists. Money stuff I can't tell me