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Speaker 1: with me for another weekend here of Shenanigans, and it's
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Speaker 1: in and just shoot the crapolda and have a good time. Now,
Speaker 1: I forgot to ask you this, since everything has passed
Speaker 1: with the draft, with the schedule being released, and obviously
Speaker 1: the regular season in playoffs being done with, do you
Speaker 1: think ratings will continue to climb on this podcast or
Speaker 1: do you think they will plumb it because the NFL
Speaker 1: is king so that you're saying, like the summertime, it's
Speaker 1: usually the next couple of months are when your favorite
Speaker 1: sports radio personalities normally, uh, get out of towns, get
Speaker 1: out a lot of town because you know, the generally
Speaker 1: the month of June, in particular Jen is a pretty
Speaker 1: bad month for for listenership. And plus people are doing
Speaker 1: stuff in this summer, and I think we'll do okay.
Speaker 1: I think we have a solid, solid enough base of
Speaker 1: people that have already subscribed to the podcast. But i'd
Speaker 1: like to gross. I want to keep growing the numbers here.
Speaker 1: What can we do? Maybe send us a message if
Speaker 1: you if there's something that we can do that you
Speaker 1: think would enhance the downloads. We've had some that have number.
Speaker 1: We had that Tim Donnie he interview did very well.
Speaker 1: Good people love when we talked to criminals. I can't
Speaker 1: get enough of that. So there's some of that stuff.
Speaker 1: But this week, let's get right into it. I don't
Speaker 1: want any small talk here, I guess because we are
Speaker 1: going to the comedy club is what we're doing right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to Earl's Cage. A long time comedian in
Speaker 1: l A and he's a he does voice over work,
Speaker 1: he's a cartoon character in the Jellies. He's guy's own podcast,
Speaker 1: The Inappropriate Earl, and he loves stand up comedy. He
Speaker 1: was in the bench Warmers, right, wasn't in the bench Warmers,
Speaker 1: that iconic sports movie from back in the day. And
Speaker 1: he's done a bunch of stuff. So I'm excited. Did
Speaker 1: we have we had a comedian on I We've had
Speaker 1: people pretend to be comedians, but have we had an
Speaker 1: actual comedian's been on the consider Pat O'Brien or Letting
Speaker 1: dixter comedians p o b Yeah, yeah, Well the fact
Speaker 1: that p ob said I could state it is a
Speaker 1: penthouse apartment in Manhattan, when I know there's no way
Speaker 1: I'm staying at Pat O'Brien's penthouse apartment. Man. Yes, that uh,
Speaker 1: I think his comedy. But anyway, Earl is here and
Speaker 1: excited to talk to her. I love comedy. I haven't
Speaker 1: been to a comedy club in forever, but but let's
Speaker 1: bring in in Earl. The comedy clubs are back open
Speaker 1: here in California, finally they opened up recently there. You've
Speaker 1: been doing stand up, You've been back at the club,
Speaker 1: so at the comedy store. What's it been like? Give
Speaker 1: me the skinny there, what's the vibe been like? It's
Speaker 1: been heavenly because uh, you know, I did it for you.
Speaker 1: I guess should say zoom or Instagram. Live comedy shows
Speaker 1: during the pandemic and uh, nothing be It's during counchlines,
Speaker 1: waiting for the fourth second lag to kick in, to
Speaker 1: see if people think you're funny. So, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: just nothing replaces live comedy. And uh, the other night
Speaker 1: I was at the comedy store and you could literally
Speaker 1: feel the love from the crowd, even though I'll assume
Speaker 1: they didn't know who I was. And uh, it's just
Speaker 1: just been awesome to be back and and see real people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's what's the state of comedy? Though? Every every time
Speaker 1: I flip on the internet, I see that some comedians
Speaker 1: in trouble for this that or the the other thing,
Speaker 1: or you know, you can't tell a joke about this,
Speaker 1: and how difficult this is like a landmine field. They're
Speaker 1: trying to do comedy these days, isn't it. Well, this
Speaker 1: is all part of my master planned, then, is to
Speaker 1: be the only comic who doesn't get canceled, So I'm
Speaker 1: in it for the long game. Uh, but it is
Speaker 1: a different era. Um. You know, I grew up with
Speaker 1: Archie Bunker, you know, has uh comedy influence, not so
Speaker 1: much for what he was saying, but for how he
Speaker 1: said it and was likable. And of course we mentioned
Speaker 1: my love of Jim Healey um, who was one of
Speaker 1: my very first comedy influences in terms of his style.
Speaker 1: So uh, you know, I think in regards to recent
Speaker 1: events that have gotten certain people canceled, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just a different era. So if you're doing what
Speaker 1: someone consider anti Asian jokes in the middle of stop
Speaker 1: Asian hate, uh, month, they better be really really funny. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I always thought comedy clubs were I hate to use
Speaker 1: the term space safe space because I hate that. But
Speaker 1: I always let you went in there and you you
Speaker 1: know whatever, happy was just you're telling a joke, like
Speaker 1: and if you're on stage, like, what's what's the big deal? Why?
Speaker 1: I hate that that's changed that even when you you're
Speaker 1: doing a set, because most you've been in comedy for
Speaker 1: a long time. I think most comedians, you know, there's
Speaker 1: some truth in it, but there's also a lot of
Speaker 1: bull crap. You're trying to get a laugh, right, So
Speaker 1: why why are people taking this stuff so serious? It's annoying. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's horrible because we're all on edge in terms of
Speaker 1: can I say this, Can I say that? Um? But
Speaker 1: I think you've got to read the room. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's like during some of the racial issues that we've
Speaker 1: had this year, you know, either George Floyd or or
Speaker 1: other incidents, that you can have racial humor, but it
Speaker 1: better be really, really funny because that's going to be
Speaker 1: the only thing that gives you even a little bit
Speaker 1: of a pass. Uh. You know. It's like I was
Speaker 1: telling them my fiance last night about the famous Chevy
Speaker 1: Chase Richard fryor SNL sketch where you know, chevy Chase
Speaker 1: said a pretty uh aggressive word on network television. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know that sketch
Speaker 1: was so funny that that saved him from you know,
Speaker 1: retribution from sponsors and and people who would have called
Speaker 1: amount if it wasn't funny. Yeah. I mean I have
Speaker 1: seen like a bunch of the you know, the old
Speaker 1: school comics guys have been around for forever, Like Billy
Speaker 1: Crystal came out and made some comments about this. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think Dave Chappelle did. Even recently, Jerry Seinfeld of
Speaker 1: all talked about like the the state of of of comedy. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I guess everything goes in in uh, you know,
Speaker 1: ebbs and flows right around the life goes in ebbs
Speaker 1: and flows. Will we ever get back to the you
Speaker 1: mentioned Archie Bunker. I don't think we'll get back to
Speaker 1: that period, but it seems so so extreme these days.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it'll roll back, yes, I mean at some point
Speaker 1: here and we can get some of that comedy back.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it will ever go
Speaker 1: back to the way like you said Archie Bunker was.
Speaker 1: Some people may say that would be a step back,
Speaker 1: but you know, I grew up with the Dean Martin
Speaker 1: roast where you know, I think the difference between those
Speaker 1: roast and may be some of the roast style humor
Speaker 1: that goes on today is that, you know, Don Rickles
Speaker 1: could look at uh, Sammy Davis or Nipsey Russell and
Speaker 1: say something pretty racially insensitive, you know, looking back now,
Speaker 1: But they loved each other, they were best friends, so
Speaker 1: there was love behind the joke. Whereas now I think
Speaker 1: some of the comics you get in trouble for what
Speaker 1: they say. There's no love behind the joke. It's just
Speaker 1: I want to say something shocking and hopefully enough of
Speaker 1: the audience likes it where I don't get canceled. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's the you know, you look
Speaker 1: at some of the Comedy Central roast. I thought that
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber roast was funny because you had Hannibal Burrows
Speaker 1: on it and who is the comic who really got
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby thrown into the crosshairs? And he just looked
Speaker 1: at Jessin Bieber and said something to the effect of,
Speaker 1: I don't like your music. I'm just here because I
Speaker 1: know it will help me. Uh. I think that what
Speaker 1: made the Dean Martin Ross so great was they were
Speaker 1: all friends and now it's just let me say something
Speaker 1: shocking and hopefully it sticks. Yeah. Well, and also getting
Speaker 1: a cloud on social media. You gotta get the uh,
Speaker 1: the buzz going on social media, which isn't. But I
Speaker 1: want to go back to Jim Healy because the tape
Speaker 1: is a roll in here and Gascon is annoyed because
Speaker 1: there's a bond. You know, when I run into someone
Speaker 1: role that is a fellow Jim Healy fanatic from back
Speaker 1: in the day, l a radio guy. For those around
Speaker 1: the country that don't know who the hell Jim Healy was,
Speaker 1: he did a show every day for half an hour
Speaker 1: in l A and it was awesome. Was ahead of
Speaker 1: his time. But I love that, or I mean, Jim,
Speaker 1: to put in perspective, can you explain in your you
Speaker 1: know you're you're very creative. Obviously, for those that don't
Speaker 1: know who Jim Healy was, how would you describe Jim
Speaker 1: Heally in just a couple of sentences. It's so hard
Speaker 1: because I would say, Jim Healey, what's the one man
Speaker 1: variety show he was? You know, if you ever listened
Speaker 1: to the Matt Drudge radio show, he was very similar.
Speaker 1: Where Jim Healy had hundreds of I like to call
Speaker 1: moles and uh so he had he knew the bartender
Speaker 1: at the Beller Hotel, he knew the valet at uh
Speaker 1: you know Jimmy's and Beverly Hills, and so if uh,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say Steve Garvey, Let's say Steve Garvey
Speaker 1: was out with a woman who wasn't named Cindy Garvey.
Speaker 1: His wife. Jim would do a report on it, like
Speaker 1: kind of a Walter Wincheld type news report with sound clips,
Speaker 1: or you know, the probably the most famous clip he
Speaker 1: has when uh I forget the sports reporters named Paul Paul.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's he's a p a guy at Yankee Stadium. Now, Pa,
Speaker 1: he had you know, Dave Kingman had just hit three
Speaker 1: home runs, drove in nine r v U and uh,
Speaker 1: I think we all know Tommy lets sorta when the
Speaker 1: Dodgers loss wasn't in the best of moods, and Paul
Speaker 1: Holden asked the most simple question, in the most understated way,
Speaker 1: what's your opinion of Kingman's performance? And for the next
Speaker 1: seven minutes, Tommy Lets Sorta gave his opinion of It
Speaker 1: couldn't be aired on radio because it was beeped and
Speaker 1: Jim Healey would beep it just enough so you could
Speaker 1: understand what words Tommy was saying. And it was just
Speaker 1: he was a one man show. And I don't think
Speaker 1: a lot of people realized that he wrote it. He
Speaker 1: you know, directed what, when, what, clips would go where,
Speaker 1: and us just a brilliant comedy mind. So that's why
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand he was a comedy
Speaker 1: influence on me versus say a stand up. He was
Speaker 1: just you know, it's been passed, I think, and uhty
Speaker 1: has never been the same for me. And six o'clock
Speaker 1: when we all would hear the dread at six o'clock tone,
Speaker 1: the dress right, the dreaded six o'clock tone, and I
Speaker 1: he was an influence on me too. So I mean
Speaker 1: we're you know, close to the same age, and I, uh,
Speaker 1: I have fond memories. Uh you know, I was telling
Speaker 1: you off before we started rolling on this, like when
Speaker 1: when I started going to dodgery games and stuff. When
Speaker 1: I got in the media, I was a young guy.
Speaker 1: I was like nineteen and I had listened to Heally
Speaker 1: and I saw all these people that Healy would goof
Speaker 1: on like you know, do updates on the freeloading and stuff,
Speaker 1: and I laugh my my ass off. But yeah, he
Speaker 1: knew everyone here. That's a great point about how you
Speaker 1: know that the people behind the scenes, and that was
Speaker 1: in the days, it was a stone age before social media.
Speaker 1: It's also the technical stuff on how to play all
Speaker 1: the sound bites that he did his own, his own
Speaker 1: sound bites, and he didn't have all the computers and
Speaker 1: stuff that we have to today. So it wasn't much
Speaker 1: uh much much different time, and it's really hard to
Speaker 1: recreate that. And I try to give tribute sometimes late
Speaker 1: at night, or I'll try to give tribute to Jim Heally,
Speaker 1: but you can't. I mean, that's such a unique show.
Speaker 1: You can't. Really the sequel will not be the equal,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I mean, And that's why
Speaker 1: I was a fan of yours because when I first
Speaker 1: started listening to you on Sunday nights, you know, after Drudge,
Speaker 1: I was like, I know this guy was a Healy
Speaker 1: fan because it was you weren't copying him, but it
Speaker 1: was definitely a tribute, much like you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of people when they hear my comedy, you know, they're
Speaker 1: comparing me to Robert Schimmel or Stephen Wright, and I'm
Speaker 1: not copying them. I just was influenced by them. And
Speaker 1: he was just such a creative mind and so funny
Speaker 1: to me that his dry sense of humor and just
Speaker 1: the work you knew he put in of calling every
Speaker 1: source he had before show, and and his out and
Speaker 1: out hatred of uh. Tommy was sort of the guy
Speaker 1: from San Diego Lee heck saw Hamilton's I mean he
Speaker 1: would be raped these guys out in the open. And
Speaker 1: I like that kind of honesty, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: if you have enemies Ben in radio, but uh, you know,
Speaker 1: if you do, you don't really let it be known.
Speaker 1: He did. So I like that kind of aggressive humor
Speaker 1: of naming names instead of hiding behind anonymous zingers. Be
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Speaker 1: Radio and the I Heart Radio app Earl this, this
Speaker 1: day has gotten off to a bad start. Um, I
Speaker 1: need to correct some things on this podcast. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you don't need to correct anything. Just well, this is great. Now,
Speaker 1: this is a wonderful Why didn't we get Earl on sooner?
Speaker 1: Guess it's a bad job by you, Like bad job
Speaker 1: by you man at the beach right now. You put
Speaker 1: all these hacks on, and you could have put Earle on,
Speaker 1: who's a quality l a comedian who knows everybody in
Speaker 1: the business. And you don't put this guy up. Bat
Speaker 1: job by you. It's funny. But the last time I
Speaker 1: did see Earle was at the Comedy Store pre Pandemic,
Speaker 1: and Earl, you were judging one of the roast battles.
Speaker 1: I don't know if many people know about the dynamics
Speaker 1: of it, but you need to explain that for for
Speaker 1: the audience, and then also too. We were sitting next
Speaker 1: to Justin Turner and Dennis Rodman, who well, I don't
Speaker 1: know what he was on, but I've never seen a
Speaker 1: celebrity point in blank get escorted out of the building
Speaker 1: like he did that night. Um, what got you involved
Speaker 1: in the roast battle first of all, especially upstairs in
Speaker 1: that comedy store. Well, I'm no longer involved in roast Battle.
Speaker 1: I feel like Sid Vicious when he left the Four
Speaker 1: Horsemen and got kicked out by Rick Flair are and
Speaker 1: it's Tolly Blanchard. But uh, you know, Roast Battle was
Speaker 1: a show you talk about. You know, Aggressive Humor was
Speaker 1: basically a one on one insult show and uh, I
Speaker 1: was one of the uh founding fathers of it. Was
Speaker 1: a show was quite popular back in the day. And
Speaker 1: I remember that show you were at. I felt so
Speaker 1: bad at some of the things I said because I was,
Speaker 1: you know, doing an archie bunker type character that I
Speaker 1: had to apologize suggesting Turner downstairs. I'm like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I was just kidding around up there, and he's like,
Speaker 1: oh man, you were my favorite part. And then Dennis
Speaker 1: Rodman got upset at me when I called him on
Speaker 1: our test. I don't think I think Dennis might have
Speaker 1: been on the powdered supplements, if you know what I'm saying. Uh,
Speaker 1: and uh he sat in my lap that night, and uh,
Speaker 1: I've never been so turned on in my life. Not
Speaker 1: just kidding because I'm a wrestling fan. So I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you were great in the n w O. Just kidding.
Speaker 1: I know the n w O was going downhill when
Speaker 1: him and Virgil were in it, but uh, you know
Speaker 1: it's uh, I guess it's a rose Valley call it
Speaker 1: an ensemble uh roast. Uh it's um, you know, it
Speaker 1: shows not for everyone. But it was fun when I
Speaker 1: was in it, but after I left it, it was
Speaker 1: like Kiss with Vinny Vincent in it, just not the same.
Speaker 1: How's that reference? Oh man? This I mean because I
Speaker 1: remember back in the day obviously with Jeffrey Ross and
Speaker 1: some of these cats and you see it from afar,
Speaker 1: but then your point blank and you're in it. I
Speaker 1: had a buddy of mine that performed that night, and
Speaker 1: I think he was one of the first two guys,
Speaker 1: and he got absolutely decimated. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was because of the audience or if it was
Speaker 1: because his dumbass brought four of his friends, including me
Speaker 1: there and we just heckled the ship out of him
Speaker 1: the entire time and he flamed out, like right before
Speaker 1: our eyes. Well it's uh, you know, the show's not
Speaker 1: for everyone. In terms of contestants. Uh, you know, you
Speaker 1: have to have a thick skin. You know you're gonna
Speaker 1: hear you know, like when I did it on TV
Speaker 1: against Jimmy Carr, who's probably like the number one comic
Speaker 1: in the world. Old he plays like arenas he opens
Speaker 1: up for the killers. Uh, you know, I knew he
Speaker 1: was gonna have jokes about my parents dying two months apart,
Speaker 1: and you know some of my uh you know, bad relationships,
Speaker 1: and he knew I was going to make fun of
Speaker 1: his dad and his relationships. So h it's uh, it's
Speaker 1: blood sport. It's literally like the octagon. You go in
Speaker 1: and knowing what it is, and uh you know, if
Speaker 1: you're strong enough to survive, great, If not, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a Jerry Springer moment for everyone to enjoy. It's
Speaker 1: it's allowed you to pivot though, to a bunch of
Speaker 1: different things, right like Comedy Central. You've been doing voiceover stuff,
Speaker 1: like You're in a lot of different things, aren't you. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: right now, I'm on a cartoon made by Tyler the creator.
Speaker 1: It's called The Jellies, and I'm the only white guy
Speaker 1: on it. So I played the dad. Uh So you know,
Speaker 1: that's probably the thing I'm most proud of because he's
Speaker 1: an amazing He's a kid, you know, said, but he's
Speaker 1: incredible with his creative vision. And it's kind of like
Speaker 1: the Black South Park. Uh you know if you like,
Speaker 1: uh like edgy or humor, I think people would like it.
Speaker 1: And uh so, how's that? How's that work? Girl? When
Speaker 1: you're the voice of that's cool? I like, like, I
Speaker 1: love cartoons and stuff. But you know how how much
Speaker 1: work is it's as easy as it could be? Or
Speaker 1: is is there actually some some difficulty in voicing over
Speaker 1: a cartoon character? Well, for me, it's easy because, as
Speaker 1: you can tell, Ben, my voice is very monotone. There's
Speaker 1: not a lot of level to it. So I'm not
Speaker 1: asked to any other type of voice other than Earl.
Speaker 1: Just talk and read the line and we're good. Um.
Speaker 1: Where has the guy who plays my son in the show,
Speaker 1: Phil Lamar? And he's like the Wayne Gretzky of voice actors.
Speaker 1: Like he's been in everything from pulp fiction to any
Speaker 1: cartoon or animated movie you've ever watched, He's been in it. Uh.
Speaker 1: He can do like seven different voices, seven different vocal ranges.
Speaker 1: He's like. Watching him was like uh. And having to
Speaker 1: do scenes with him in the booth was like doing
Speaker 1: scenes with de Niro. It was like, Wow, this is
Speaker 1: an education. So but I love it. You know. It's
Speaker 1: I'm like a let me see, let me think of
Speaker 1: a good sports analogy. Uh. I'm like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like a kid to coulf. I I got the
Speaker 1: side arm. I can't pitch any other way. So you know,
Speaker 1: if you need a deep baritone, growling voice, I'm the
Speaker 1: guy fair enough. So you're not. I know that you're
Speaker 1: a near and dear at Pittsburgh Steelers FENC. You're not
Speaker 1: like a Levy on Bell type. You should have listened
Speaker 1: to bench show the other night. It was it was nauseating.
Speaker 1: He went through a television schedule for his opening monologue,
Speaker 1: the most popular, the most popular television show in America
Speaker 1: that kills the ratings. And by the way, and you
Speaker 1: know this, earl, you know, and you just when I
Speaker 1: do sports radio, the number one thing is the NFL anything.
Speaker 1: You know, if Roger Gell takes a dump, we we
Speaker 1: can talk about it fifteen minutes if we have to.
Speaker 1: And Gascon's busting my balls because the schedule came out
Speaker 1: and I played the hits and I got in trouble
Speaker 1: for it with Gascon his instincts. I'm a huge hockey guy.
Speaker 1: Hockey is my favorite sport country mile next to football.
Speaker 1: But you know, football is a just you know, it's
Speaker 1: just America's Uh. I think it's America's past time. I
Speaker 1: know they say that about baseball, but like, you know,
Speaker 1: everyone watches football, Like you know, you gotta put a
Speaker 1: gun to people said to watch hockey. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: hockey hockeys like kiss. You know, you put on a
Speaker 1: kiss record any of them. Uh You're like, okay, this
Speaker 1: is okay, I guess, but you gotta see Kiss Live.
Speaker 1: You're like, this is the greatest band ever. Uh and
Speaker 1: I think that's like hockey football has just made for TV.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, even though I totally agree with
Speaker 1: Jim rsay, like who the hell is mel Kuiper? Uh
Speaker 1: you know, I'll watch Mel Kuiper for six hours last weekend.
Speaker 1: So uh, you know, I am a Steeler fan. But man,
Speaker 1: we got tough schedule this year, that's for sure. See
Speaker 1: that he wants to break down the Steelers schedules. See
Speaker 1: what you see? This is like so you completely want
Speaker 1: this is is gonna come out and bring the anvil
Speaker 1: on my head? And he would have been nice if
Speaker 1: you did. It would have been nice. I mean if
Speaker 1: I would love to talk about the White Shadow for
Speaker 1: the next hour. But uh, you know, football the kids today,
Speaker 1: and I know Ben, you have Ben and Dave, you
Speaker 1: you have a young fan base. You know that I
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell the White Shadow is, so
Speaker 1: they want to talk about you know, Naji Harris and uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know Chad Johnson's TikTok videos. Yeah, very important.
Speaker 1: I'm not are you on TikTok girl? I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: too old. I think for TikTok. I'm not on there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm probably the oldest guy on TikTok. I'm
Speaker 1: fifty two. I I I feel creepy being on it,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Uh. I get messages from
Speaker 1: like thirteen year old Guatemalan boys saying how funny I am.
Speaker 1: Uh No, No, I'm serious. Like my Beance she's got
Speaker 1: like two hundred thousand followers on TikTok. I've got like
Speaker 1: twelve hundred. Uh and most of them I think have
Speaker 1: played for the Dominican Republic Little League. It's see Earl,
Speaker 1: that's so funny because you get those emails from those
Speaker 1: those teenagers. Ben gets those from like sixty seven year
Speaker 1: old men. I mean, it's like it's amazing that these
Speaker 1: guys like how their mouths watering at so you're so jealous.
Speaker 1: He's just believable. See. You know, he's got he's got ages,
Speaker 1: and he hate anybody over a certain age, and I
Speaker 1: guess kind of spits loogie's in their face. He's like,
Speaker 1: you're you know you gets stay. But some of the
Speaker 1: greatest callers I've had in radio. I got this guy,
Speaker 1: Doc Mike Earl. It calls me from Chicago, and he preaches.
Speaker 1: He calls me like three times a week and preaches
Speaker 1: that you need to drink your own urine and that
Speaker 1: you'll you know, you'll live forever in all this and
Speaker 1: guess like it was it was guess Gun in charge,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be able to take a call like that. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he's actually been when he's produced my show, Earl,
Speaker 1: he's not allowed me to take any phone calls. He
Speaker 1: because he didn't know how to use the phone system.
Speaker 1: Can you believe that? I mean, listen, as a fifty
Speaker 1: two year old comic who has a primarily young fan base,
Speaker 1: I'll take anyone's d M. Uh of course. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know you need fans man, Yes, yes, you guys or me.
Speaker 1: You know I can't tell jokes two empty seats. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know. I had a d M just this morning
Speaker 1: from seventy year old woman who made mother caresa looked
Speaker 1: like a Backstreet boy, but you know, she said, I
Speaker 1: love your podcast I released yesterday of this hockey player
Speaker 1: I interviewed, and I was like, hey, thanks for I
Speaker 1: get back to everyone, you know, because I know when
Speaker 1: I've reached out to some of my uh you know people,
Speaker 1: I'm fans of like the singer from Bowling for Soup,
Speaker 1: he messages me back every time. The singer from rat Hey,
Speaker 1: will you come on my podcast? He's come on twice,
Speaker 1: So I know how good that made me feel. So
Speaker 1: I get back to everyone whether you're uh, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: no matter what your age is. Of course, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're anyone under eighteen, I try not to talk
Speaker 1: to you boy or a girl, just because, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: nothing good is going to come out of that conversation
Speaker 1: except allegations. Earl, one of your biggest interviews was before
Speaker 1: he passed away, the late great Roddy Piper. Um, what
Speaker 1: was that relationship? Like, how did you guys to how
Speaker 1: did you two come in contact? And what was the conversation? Like?
Speaker 1: It was awesome and I owe it all due to
Speaker 1: the Comedy Store and uh fellow comics Steve Simone. I
Speaker 1: think he somehow knew Roddy and Roddy wanted to not
Speaker 1: necessarily be a stand up. But you know, at this time,
Speaker 1: Roddy was probably fifty and you know he pro wrestlers.
Speaker 1: As we all know, they live a brutal lifestyle. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like when you see Rick Flair still wrestling.
Speaker 1: You know, he's got to pay off for the four
Speaker 1: divorces and all that stuff. And h I think Roddy
Speaker 1: just didn't want to travel as much anymore. So he thought, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll go to the comedy store, maybe have some shows.
Speaker 1: And one night I'm on stage and it was pretty
Speaker 1: empty in the room. How empty was it? Think dark
Speaker 1: and at a state fair and empty? And uh, I'm
Speaker 1: doing I was very upset at how my favorite wrestler,
Speaker 1: Sting was treated when he went to the w W.
Speaker 1: And I did about a twenty minute set on it
Speaker 1: and Roddy was in the background. Uh, and he just
Speaker 1: comes up to me and it was like talking to Superman.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy I watched since I
Speaker 1: was a kid. And he's like, why don't you come
Speaker 1: on my podcast? And you seem you seem like you're
Speaker 1: pretty bitter about pro wrestling state of you know, the
Speaker 1: state of it, and uh. It went so well the
Speaker 1: next day that his producer was like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: Roddy needs a sidekick and what you want to do it?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, I don't even want to get paid. Uh.
Speaker 1: And so when I did it for probably about the
Speaker 1: last five months of his life and it was awesome,
Speaker 1: like he was like getting to work with him was like,
Speaker 1: you know, pro wrestlers are like especially in the eighties,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, like Ben said, now there's the
Speaker 1: Internet and YouTube and all that stuff, but you know,
Speaker 1: you watch wrestling in the eighties, you really thought Kamala
Speaker 1: was from Uganda. Ex No, I swear to God until
Speaker 1: my dad once took me to the Olympic Auditorium which
Speaker 1: is now Korean Church off the five and it's also
Speaker 1: where Jim Healey did uh announcing for boxing. Uh. He
Speaker 1: takes me to w WF event at the time, and
Speaker 1: my dad leaves me alone backstage in a ww F
Speaker 1: locker area that that's probably speaks to his parenting ability.
Speaker 1: And I see Kamala putting his clothes on, like khaki pants,
Speaker 1: a polo shirt. He still got his face makeup on,
Speaker 1: and I'm just staring at him. Now he was about
Speaker 1: six seven four pounds. Towards the end of his life,
Speaker 1: he was about five four. But he shout out to
Speaker 1: the de w dewt for taking care of their own uh.
Speaker 1: And he just looks at me and goes, Hi, I'm Jim,
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh no, your your name's Kamala and what
Speaker 1: are you doing speaking English? And uh no, it was
Speaker 1: just like and then Kimchi came over, who was his manager,
Speaker 1: you know, the guy who would dress up in the
Speaker 1: bee keeper outfit. He's like, hey, I'm Steve. I'm like
Speaker 1: thought you were Asian and your name was Kimchi and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like when I met Abdulo the Butch
Speaker 1: Sure and he introduced himself as Larry from uh the
Speaker 1: Windsor Ontario. I'm like, I thought you were from the
Speaker 1: Sioux Dan So, uh, you know, I just was fascinated
Speaker 1: with Roddy's era of wrestling, and he loved that. And
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't really care about working for the
Speaker 1: de w de Wie. Uh. And I think Roddy sense
Speaker 1: that he's like, Okay, he can be the bad guy
Speaker 1: and I can just almost be the good guy that
Speaker 1: this guy's bad guy. And I know the fan hated
Speaker 1: me on the show, you know, they just wanted to
Speaker 1: hear Roddy. But you know, Roddy liked me, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know I cried a lot, you know when he passed,
Speaker 1: because uh, he was just a great guy. So I
Speaker 1: think about him a lot. Yeah, legend. I remember when
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I had the same I was
Speaker 1: just like you, you watched wrestling on the weekend and
Speaker 1: you're you know, come on to the Anaheim Convention Center.
Speaker 1: It'll the whole Cogen and whatever, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's cool. And I went out there. I didn't have
Speaker 1: the the the access, but I would. I would hang out.
Speaker 1: I knew where the wrestlers. I went actually was actually
Speaker 1: I grew up in Orange Counties. It was the Anaheim
Speaker 1: Convention Center, this dumpy arena, which is I don't even
Speaker 1: know if it's still there, probably is, but the Clippers
Speaker 1: actually played a playoff game there during the LA Riots
Speaker 1: back many years. So I'm I'm at the uh, I'm
Speaker 1: Atianna Anhem Convention Center, and I was. I got fat
Speaker 1: earl on those w WF ice cream bars. I remember those.
Speaker 1: I got the Yeah, those were great ice cream bars.
Speaker 1: And I had the Hulk Coogen vitamins. I took those,
Speaker 1: and I learned as an adult Hulk Hulk took other vitamins.
Speaker 1: But I didn't didn't realize that at the time, but
Speaker 1: I I I was most excited about because I thought
Speaker 1: I was gonna be a broadcaster even as a kid.
Speaker 1: Mean gene Oakerland. Like when I I when I saw
Speaker 1: him walk out in a jumpsuit, you know, to to
Speaker 1: his hotel. He was walking across the street to the hotel.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this guy. And he's
Speaker 1: like the little bald guy with had a sweatsuit on.
Speaker 1: And it was and Andre the Giant, bigger than life,
Speaker 1: Andre the Giant. I mean, just Justin said, who are
Speaker 1: you in nineteen eighties wrestling? Who are you? Like? Your
Speaker 1: your top three? Guy? Eyes of you. I'm not that
Speaker 1: we do list radio or podcasting, but who are your
Speaker 1: top three back in those days? I mean definitely the
Speaker 1: ultimate Warrior. I mean he just his intros made zero,
Speaker 1: his promos made zero sense. But h you know, I
Speaker 1: just you know, this is the eighties. You know, he
Speaker 1: looked like bon Jovi on h G h um Kamala.
Speaker 1: I just was before they turned him into a cartoon
Speaker 1: character like Kamala. His first few years as a as
Speaker 1: a bad guy was frightening. I mean, you know when
Speaker 1: he would come down to the ring and you know,
Speaker 1: pound his belly and and looked like he was an
Speaker 1: absolute maniac. They would pay to the crowd and show
Speaker 1: kids crying like they really thought that Scott was gonna
Speaker 1: glunge into the crowd and spear them to death. Uh.
Speaker 1: And of course the late grade. Of course they're almost
Speaker 1: all dead. Now what a health plan they have? The
Speaker 1: great Rick Rude, Yeah solid, which is who I kind
Speaker 1: of based my roast Battle character on. Like he was
Speaker 1: just the ultimate bad guy and uh, you know, would
Speaker 1: call the audience fat tax cheets and they loved it. So, uh,
Speaker 1: who were your favorite Benny, I'm senting you as a
Speaker 1: maybe earthquake and tug boat fan. Yeah. No, Well, I
Speaker 1: I remember the hul Kogan, Andre the Giant, the Junkyard Dog.
Speaker 1: I like the Junkyard Dog a lot. Hack saw. Jim
Speaker 1: Dungan was was big King Kong Bundy. I actually met
Speaker 1: he's I think he passed away to George and the
Speaker 1: Animal steel Man, which is is he still alive? Okay?
Speaker 1: I didn't George the Animal steal. When I was in
Speaker 1: early in the radio, I had a similar experience to you.
Speaker 1: So I I got hired to be a celebrity manager
Speaker 1: for the hedge rinkers at a at a w w
Speaker 1: E event at a minor league ballpark out in the
Speaker 1: Where was that, I don't even remember where it was.
Speaker 1: I think it was out out in the Inland Empire.
Speaker 1: So we went out there and uh, and I didn't
Speaker 1: know who was on the card or whatever, but George
Speaker 1: the Animal Steel was like the big name. It was
Speaker 1: like a secondary w w E card and uh. And
Speaker 1: so we got to hang out in the locker room
Speaker 1: waiting because we were going on like next, next to
Speaker 1: last or whatever, and uh, and I remember George walked
Speaker 1: in and he was like an educated guy and you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't in character and it was like a normal
Speaker 1: dude and it was like whoa. And I was flashing
Speaker 1: back to my youth and I was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: this is the guy that eats turn buckles, George the
Speaker 1: Animal Steel. What's going on with that? And it was?
Speaker 1: It was It was crazy. But but yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I would say late you know, late eighties more than
Speaker 1: mid eighties. But GEORGEI I all the dolls to all
Speaker 1: the cheesy toys they came out with back in those days.
Speaker 1: I still have some of them somewhere buried in the
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all my wrestling dolls. Uh, you know, I've
Speaker 1: been doing comedy for like twenty years. You'd think some
Speaker 1: of my highlights would have been meeting Jim Carrey on
Speaker 1: the set of I'm Dying up Here, or being on
Speaker 1: a cartoon on Adult Swim, which you know, you have
Speaker 1: voice actors who do it for thirty years who never
Speaker 1: get on a Adult Swim show. But my career highlight
Speaker 1: it's one day I get a package at the comedy
Speaker 1: store and I go down there and I opened it
Speaker 1: up and some fan that sent me in Abdula the
Speaker 1: butcher meant conditioned doll that I'd ever taken out of
Speaker 1: the box, And you would have thought I got the
Speaker 1: couch on the tonight show with how I reacted great, Earl,
Speaker 1: I got Because you've mentioned so many things, I'm curious,
Speaker 1: what is the because you've done a lot, what's the
Speaker 1: ultimate goal now or what is the next besides getting married?
Speaker 1: You're taking that, you're taking that plans, you've been to
Speaker 1: the knee, You're getting married. Got maslto congratulations Lahimlahim. What's
Speaker 1: what's the goal now? Like? What do you um like? Well,
Speaker 1: you know't just to have a bigger fan base and
Speaker 1: uh you know, just to uh like I love doing
Speaker 1: stand up and you know, every meeting I have with
Speaker 1: a manager and age and that they all look at
Speaker 1: me when I tell them that. It was like, dude,
Speaker 1: there's no money and stand up. Um, you know, you
Speaker 1: gotta have a cartoon and you gotta have a script.
Speaker 1: You gotta have this. Uh that. Uh. You know, I
Speaker 1: love doing my podcast. You know, it's kind of awesome
Speaker 1: to have some of the guests I've been able to get,
Speaker 1: Like I had the bad guy from Superman two on.
Speaker 1: He came to my house. Uh, and not Terence Stamp,
Speaker 1: but no, I'm the guy who didn't see I didn't
Speaker 1: speak at all. I thought. Then I was like, this
Speaker 1: guy probably no one's asked him to be interviewed in
Speaker 1: quite some time. And uh, I somehow got ahold of
Speaker 1: them on social media and he's like, oh, can we skype?
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I don't do this sky He's like,
Speaker 1: can we zoom? I'm like, now you gotta come to
Speaker 1: my house? And you know, I get a buzz on
Speaker 1: my door one day and there's no he's still a
Speaker 1: huge guy. He's probably in the seventies and I had
Speaker 1: no idea of his background. He used to be a
Speaker 1: heavyweight boxer, he bought uh George Foreman and uh scheduled
Speaker 1: type Muhammad Ali. So we had a great conversation about boxing.
Speaker 1: I mean, anytime I can do an interview and drop
Speaker 1: ron Lyle and text Cob and the guy knows who
Speaker 1: they are, that's a good interview. So, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: part of my to answer your question, Dave, maybe you
Speaker 1: get on this show boar option now that me and
Speaker 1: Ben her home. He is, uh yeah, absolutely clearly. I
Speaker 1: mean you've gotta have higher standards than that, though. I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta you know, I'm a struggling overnight radio guys,
Speaker 1: so you gotta you gotta find maybe you can just
Speaker 1: move to Austin. Isn't that what everyone's doing now, moving
Speaker 1: to Austin and uh, you know, open a comedy club
Speaker 1: or something like that. I guess, isn't that the wave
Speaker 1: of the future. Well, I think Bill Burt said it
Speaker 1: the best, and I want to give him full credit. Uh,
Speaker 1: He's like, everyone can move to Austin, but only one
Speaker 1: of you has a hundred millions. So you know, I
Speaker 1: saw Joe Rogan's house. Holy shit, my god, man oh man,
Speaker 1: good for him, but that is uh, well he's got houses.
Speaker 1: Uh but I messed up though. Joe asked me wants
Speaker 1: to be on this podcast. You know, he came up
Speaker 1: to me at the comedy store one night, it's really late.
Speaker 1: It's in the back of the kitchen where it is
Speaker 1: one of his safe spaces, and he just looks at
Speaker 1: me and goes, bro, it's time you come on the podcast,
Speaker 1: And like, like, I wish I had my internal dialogue
Speaker 1: on tape because it's like, Okay, don't don't get too excited,
Speaker 1: be cool, be cool. And he's like, here's my number,
Speaker 1: called Jamie tomorrow, we'll set it up. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm head, like I'm finally in and I know I
Speaker 1: would have a good interview with him, because you know,
Speaker 1: just he's a great interview or he's like Howard Stern.
Speaker 1: He doesn't get the credit for asking the questions nobody
Speaker 1: else would. And uh, I thought, well, you know what,
Speaker 1: everyone calls him the day after. I'm gonna give him
Speaker 1: two days. And then second day came. I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give him one more day, so I don't seem
Speaker 1: too eager. So I called him up and I could
Speaker 1: tell he, uh, he probably forgot. He gave me his
Speaker 1: number to do the podcast. I just panicked and I
Speaker 1: I think I asked him about my torn a c
Speaker 1: L and he was nice, but it was it was
Speaker 1: a short conversation. And that's stop being nice, Like that's
Speaker 1: Dave you asked me. My my in goal is to
Speaker 1: stop being so nice. Well, you can still be nice
Speaker 1: to us at least. I mean I need to probably
Speaker 1: invest in a blanket and a couple of wine glasses
Speaker 1: for you and Ben. Maybe uh, a couch somewhere you
Speaker 1: guys can do some wine tasting and malibu together since
Speaker 1: this bromance has taken off him. Set it up and
Speaker 1: we'll watch episode sixteen, season two of The White Shadow.
Speaker 1: I always try and expose this episode to everyone. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that's when Coach Reives takes Salami, Coolidge and Thorpe
Speaker 1: to the golf course and it is no I'm telling
Speaker 1: you as someone who grew up playing bell are country club. Uh.
Speaker 1: And maybe it's inside jokes to me, but that is
Speaker 1: the finest written hour. Not that The White Shadow was
Speaker 1: a sitcom, but I guess you'd call it half sitcom
Speaker 1: half drama. But the jokes are so funny, and keeping
Speaker 1: in mind that they were told in nine on Channel two,
Speaker 1: Monday Night's prime time. That's probably my favorite episode of
Speaker 1: all time of any TV show. So let's let's promote
Speaker 1: you or I mean, there's probably some people I would
Speaker 1: think that might not know who you are. You're being
Speaker 1: exposed when they love you world. They love that you're
Speaker 1: a sportsman and you're a comedian. You know everyone and
Speaker 1: you you go to the comedy store and how can
Speaker 1: people find you and how can they follow you and
Speaker 1: say amazing things about you on social media? And all
Speaker 1: you're on the jellies you mentioned got your own podcast? Uh?
Speaker 1: Was it inappropriate? Earl? Is that the name of it?
Speaker 1: Am I right on? That is that? Yes? You are right, Ben,
Speaker 1: It's it's just inappropriate. And people ask me all the time,
Speaker 1: as I'm sure to do you guys, what's your show about?
Speaker 1: Your podcast? A radio show? And I'm like, it's really
Speaker 1: the podcast, it's about everything at nothing at the same time,
Speaker 1: you know, yes, yes, yes, yes, that makes any sense.
Speaker 1: Like I had the bad guy from Superman Too yesterday
Speaker 1: I had the very famous, I should say infamous NHL
Speaker 1: Enforce or from the eighties Eddie Boxcar hospit are Uh
Speaker 1: you know, I had well to me it was he
Speaker 1: meant a lot to me as a kid, you know,
Speaker 1: because he was he played in the aggressive era of
Speaker 1: the league and uh he was involved in several uh
Speaker 1: on ice incidents that are still up to this day.
Speaker 1: Caused a pregame brawl in the seven Stanley Cup Final
Speaker 1: warm ups. So you can watch, you can listen to
Speaker 1: inappropriate or on the Apple podcast and on social media.
Speaker 1: TikTok included, I'm the same on every format. It's just
Speaker 1: at Earl skakel e a r L s k a
Speaker 1: k e L and I'm at the comedy store tonight,
Speaker 1: improv tomorrow. If you message me on say Instagram, I
Speaker 1: can arrange tickets and uh, you know, I'd love to
Speaker 1: poach some of your fans. And to my fans who
Speaker 1: will listen to this follow Dave Gascon followed the great
Speaker 1: Ben Mahller, a Jim Healey protege and we all win.
Speaker 1: So we thank you Earl, No Ben, thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you for entertaining me. I really you were an influence
Speaker 1: on me, so I appreciate that. Thank you Dave for
Speaker 1: set in this up. And if you guys ever have
Speaker 1: twenty guests to drop out, I'm the go to guys,
Speaker 1: I'm the man. It's the old thing in life. Guys.
Speaker 1: You'd like to hear some us doing pretty good, but
Speaker 1: you don't want to hear they're doing better than you.
Speaker 1: And my whole life, I've done better than all of you.
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