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Speaker 2: What's going on, my brother?

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Speaker 3: What's happening man, my brother? Man, Loan, what's the deal?

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Speaker 4: Gee?

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Speaker 2: Man? Nothing I wanted to call man.

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Speaker 1: I just was listening to Joe Budden and Adam twenty

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Speaker 1: two conversation.

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Speaker 2: You know Joe has a way, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He has a way where he's pressing up on Adam

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Speaker 1: a little bit right, And you know I hit Adam up.

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Speaker 1: You know I have a relationship with Adam. You know

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Speaker 1: I had came out there and interviewed him, so I

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Speaker 1: hit him up. He was like, man, I really don't

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Speaker 1: want to do no press right now. I really got

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Speaker 1: mad at him. We really got the argus, you know,

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Speaker 1: cause I'm like, man, you know you everywhere and niggas

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Speaker 1: need to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: When you just let go of.

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Speaker 1: Damn near all the blacks that right, most of it

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Speaker 1: is that matter. You let him go while we can't

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Speaker 1: really talk to you about that, right. But then I said, Loan,

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Speaker 1: this ain't no streaks bag up. Let the boy get

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Speaker 1: him a little time. He'll come out and have a conversation. First,

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Speaker 1: I want to congratulate you, though, man, because cause you know,

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Speaker 1: oftentimes we don't think on our feet and understand pivoting.

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Speaker 1: I believe even when I was out there, I was

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Speaker 1: telling Adam, yo, it's too late. You can't stop these

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Speaker 1: guys now, these guys that already moved. I even asked Adam,

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Speaker 1: I said, why don't you look at this like a workaround,

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Speaker 1: Like they're not bringing viewers to a No Jumper by

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Speaker 1: being so active in their streaming market, And he just

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Speaker 1: couldn't see the vision. Do you believe that being active

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Speaker 1: in the community with the community, do you think that

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Speaker 1: that added value to the show or do you honestly

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Speaker 4: I think it added value because at the end of

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Speaker 4: He gonna be the one that's gonna get the praise. Like, hey,

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Speaker 4: you put him in a position to look what he created,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Right, like you a general making other generals. That's why

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Speaker 3: I looked at.

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Speaker 1: It, right and and but it's Adam interested in playing

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Speaker 2: Were you showing up for No Jumper.

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Speaker 1: In the same way that you've always showed up or

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Speaker 1: in your honest opinion, did you enjoy doing community a

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Speaker 1: little better? Was it the vibe a little different with

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta look at it two different ways. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, I can. I could sit there and there's

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Speaker 3: The things that made me great and.

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Speaker 4: What the people liked about me, Adam wanted to suppress

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Speaker 4: and maybe not intentional, but you know I used to

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Speaker 3: But those are the type of things that stuck. Like

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Speaker 3: All the time.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was just being myself. It was no pressure,

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Speaker 4: I don't like this. I don't like that. I'm taking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean, what works for Adam?

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Speaker 1: What he can't critique us, right, he could critique us

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Speaker 1: You just said that you came, and I heard him

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Speaker 2: So before we even get there, let's bag up a

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Speaker 1: Because I got like five hundred thousand listeners on each show,

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Speaker 3: Okay, So if you don't know, my name is A d.

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Speaker 4: I was a local artist in Los Angeles radio play

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Speaker 2: Know his right, right right, yeah, more and more.

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Speaker 3: I don't live too far.

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Speaker 4: From where y'all at. Let's let's do it, right, So

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Speaker 4: I just started going there, back and forth.

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Speaker 1: if you're able to do content. Right, So you was

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Speaker 1: in a situation where you might have been helping Adam

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Speaker 1: in a way that you may not really new. Bro,

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Speaker 1: In that situation coming in quarantine, tell me this, how

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Speaker 4: I would say maybe a couple of months.

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Speaker 2: A couple of month. That ain't that ain't bad? I

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, for just doing nothing in quarantine, right, you

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Speaker 3: Of my thinking. At the time.

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Speaker 4: When I started going out, I ain't used to white

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was me him house phone cam girl. As

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Speaker 4: So I ended up I'm sitting there subbing on a

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Speaker 3: Camgirl, she leaves, she leaves, no jumper.

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Speaker 4: And then they're like, you know what, ad we want

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Speaker 4: So yeah, so you know, I was just real humble

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Speaker 4: So on. So after that, you know, I pushed I

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Speaker 1: That, when did you start to feel like Adam? When

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Speaker 1: At any point, when did you feel that How long

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Speaker 4: And it started being just little comments.

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Speaker 4: No, it hasn't even we just hit a year of community.

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Speaker 4: hasn't even been that long.

440
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 3: We started community.

441
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 2: Because I mean I saw him.

442
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: I saw him get afraid when he was like, Yo,

443
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 1: they're they're we're gonna have to have a conversation. You know,

444
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 1: they're talking about what's happened on over it? No jumper.

445
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 1: I saw him starting to get afraid. So you think

446
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,679
Speaker 1: about what six seven.

447
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 4: Months I'll say, like six months.

448
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 1: In okay, do you feel like as a business, do

449
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: you feel like that Adam could have came to you

450
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: and said, man, can we not go over the same

451
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: topics that we go over on?

452
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 2: What? What made you? What?

453
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 3: What?

454
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 2: What?

455
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: What makes you think that he didn't do that? Why

456
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 1: wouldn't he just come say something like that to you?

457
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, honestly, Maybe I don't know. Maybe he

458
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 4: didn't look at it as like, oh this is I honestly,

459
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 4: in my heart believed that he didn't think that it

460
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 4: was gonna get to what it was, and you know

461
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 4: it was. It was crazy to me that that he

462
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 4: said it something in a Joe Butden interview. I ain't

463
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 4: gonna lie it kind of hurt my feelings. He said.

464
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 3: It's verbatim.

465
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 4: He said, I knew they were gonna be ambitious, just

466
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 4: not that that ambitious. So I'm like, I'm like, damn

467
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 4: if you push me to do something and ends up

468
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 4: being successful, Like, why would you even feel that way?

469
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 4: We're supposed to be mutius?

470
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 3: You feel me?

471
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 4: Right?

472
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 2: Do you do you feel like? Do you feel like?

473
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 2: Who do you feel like?

474
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: Advised him because he said it's been on his mind

475
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: and he wanted to talk. I imagine that Lush isn't the

476
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: only person he spoke with. Do you think someone advised

477
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,719
Speaker 1: him that removing a D is a good idea?

478
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 2: Because I would feel like that you would keep a D.

479
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 3: Nah.

480
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 4: I don't even I think I think that it's crazy

481
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 4: because DJ Academics has said this a year ago, not

482
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 4: even a year ago, like six seven months ago. He

483
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 4: said that the community is going up. He said, Adam

484
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 4: is gonna either have to make a D and partner

485
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 4: or he gonna have to fire him, because it's gonna

486
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 4: be it's gonna be no in between. And I knew

487
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 4: once I was progressing, comparisons are gonna start happening, and

488
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 4: the reddits will talk about oh, it's a conflict of interests,

489
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 4: and comments will say that thing. And I think that

490
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,719
Speaker 4: outside forces and the comments and the reddit probably probably

491
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 4: made him feel like, you know, he probably started reading

492
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 4: into it.

493
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: Do you think he's so he's affected by the outside entities.

494
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: He's not really making all the decisions himself. The comments

495
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: kind of he ogazed that it's saying, well, this is

496
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: the audience.

497
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 4: Well, I think we all are to a certain degree.

498
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm gonna consider the business. I'm gonna

499
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: consider things. I'm I'm gonna do the interviews I want

500
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: to do. I ain't really gonna consider what these people

501
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: talking about. Like, even I hear you mentioning academics, Adam,

502
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: in my opinion, don't got no business following academics. Academics

503
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: ain't done what Adam was doing, so he can't get

504
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: no advice from academics. Academics has yet to put anyone

505
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: in position. And I don't say that, you know, I

506
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: say that respectfully. You see what I'm saying.

507
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 4: When I even in that sense, I respected it because

508
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 4: it happened, you know what I'm saying. Yes, and he

509
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 4: he he called it out, and you know, he called

510
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 4: it out the thing being is literally like yeah, when

511
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 4: you start seeing what YouTube is really making, when you

512
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: start seeing the.

513
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: Situation information, you know what you getting information?

514
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 4: You know as a as a as a as a

515
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 4: black man, I'm going into this company and I'm thinking,

516
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 4: you know, oh man, this is what I'm getting is

517
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 4: is dope because it's more than I'm used to getting

518
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 4: on the regular. But once you get behind you know,

519
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 4: them cameras and you and you see in the business

520
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 4: and you see how much money coming in, and you

521
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 4: see how much shoe making, and you're seeing how the

522
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 4: you know, the algorithm is you seeing these people sitting

523
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 4: there throwing stuff answer, You're like, wait a minute, there's

524
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 4: a lot more money that you know, and I can't

525
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 4: imagine on a larger scale of how much they were doing.

526
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 4: So once you get the information, it's gonna make you

527
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 4: look at things differently, like, h so maybe I should

528
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 4: move this different way.

529
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: Speaking of the information that you received during your own show,

530
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: do you believe that No Jump or with with the

531
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: shows that you were involved with, was losing money, because

532
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: that's been a narrative as well, that he was losing

533
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 1: money with with with a lot of these shows.

534
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 4: No now if you if you're going by straight YouTube

535
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 4: views and everything like that and you have to pay talent, yes,

536
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 4: you would lose money off of that. But we had

537
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 4: sponsors and that was usually how you know some of

538
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 4: those sponsors. I'm not gonna sit there and put that

539
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 4: business out there, but it's large, thousands of dollars of money,

540
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

541
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: This is good information.

542
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: So this is debunking the narrative of that he was

543
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: could have been losing on this show. Because if it's

544
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: a sponsor involved in the show, that's a that's money

545
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: that's floating in the show. That means it has financial backing.

546
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: So I don't see what we lose at So lit's.

547
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 4: Say, like my show, right maybe weekly at best, if

548
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 4: we ain't cursing it going crazy, that may make one

549
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 4: thousand dollars maybe fifteen hundred bucks. Right then you got

550
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 4: then you got then you got four people you bust

551
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 4: that down or whatever. There really ain't no money. I

552
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 4: get that, and you're paying X, Y and Z. But

553
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 4: once the advertisers come, yeah, that's a big penny. Yes,

554
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 4: so were reading you know, almost every episode you would

555
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 4: see me doing ad reades. You know, some of them

556
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 4: ads a beat ten grands them as a fifteen grand.

557
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: Yes, and then the fashion over at the beginning, that's

558
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: a bag.

559
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 4: All, it's all, it's all ads.

560
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: Yes.

561
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 4: When it comes down to I've even bought, you know,

562
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 4: people to come.

563
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: And bring ads okay to the table, so.

564
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 4: You know, the saying that, Yeah, you sit there and

565
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 4: just say YouTube, Yeah, you lose money on YouTube.

566
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: But nah not when you got to add for.

567
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 2: A show that's good game?

568
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: Can we reading that that's good gass?

569
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

570
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 1: And then he also because you know, I remember that, Adam,

571
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: and I'm sure at some point I speak to Adam

572
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: and clarify some of this shit he's talking about. But

573
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: he said he made two hundred thousand a month. So

574
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 1: I'm like, I on one end, you say you losing

575
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 1: And then he said two million. That's right, two million

576
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: a month. He said he make two million a month,

577
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: So how are we losing.

578
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 4: Two million? Because you know, and then and some people

579
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 4: that understanding, right, like once again, once you get the information,

580
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 4: you know what's going on, right, So yeah, you made

581
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 4: that show, may have made without ads a couple one

582
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 4: hundred bucks, but you shopped at that's showing to twenty

583
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 4: thirty clips.

584
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 2: Which is another stream of revenue.

585
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 4: Yes, yep. And then you take some clips and you

586
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 4: put them on Facebook.

587
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: And on Instagram, Instagram.

588
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 4: And on TikTok, then you put them on snapshare, so

589
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 4: that same content is surfacing multiple times. Yes, by the

590
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 4: time that it's all you know, by the time it's

591
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: all chopped up and you, man, you're making some real

592
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 4: bread on them exactly.

593
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: So I think it's so good that we have in

594
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: this conversation, man, because the fans that the consumer hear

595
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: him say that, and you know he was over there

596
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: with Joe speaking a lot about that, right, and you

597
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: know they know I give this kind of game out

598
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: of time. But it's important to understand that this show

599
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: had ads on it, and that's the business model that

600
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: podcast usually live by. Get you some ads, what's your CPM,

601
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: how much are they how much are they paying per thousand,

602
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: and things like that, and then you will be able

603
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: to get your money like that. I think that's so so, so,

604
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: so so good game. Let's talk about you putting your

605
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: life on the line, or putting your flag on the line,

606
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: or putting your reputation on the line. A couple of

607
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: instances happen I believe that white people and black people

608
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: don't share the same like understanding when it comes to

609
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: how far we're willing to go. Right, So for us,

610
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: we'll lay down and die for somebody we love. And

611
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: but but love for us mean that much right for

612
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: I think some of our Caucasian counterparts, I don't think

613
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: they see that the same.

614
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: I think relationships are fickle.

615
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: I believe Adam to be emotionally unavailable right in a

616
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: lot of instances.

617
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: Do you do how do you feel? Bro?

618
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you put your life on the line,

619
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: certain things happen, you ran out there.

620
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: How do you feel about all of that?

621
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I did it off with just pure love, bro.

622
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: It wasn't for no monetary gain. There wasn't anything. It

623
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: was just, you know, with the thoughts of I'm a

624
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 4: stand up god. If I fuck with you, fuck with you,

625
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 4: I got your back. I'm with you to the wills

626
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 4: fall off. This type of person, I am real And

627
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 4: you know, I feel like part of the reason why

628
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 4: they get hired was because of my street background. I

629
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 4: tried to the streets and that was also a plus

630
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: and a bonus with with him living in LA and

631
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 4: you know, doing what.

632
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: You doing right makes sense?

633
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: Do you do you think that do you think adam

634
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: Is was emotionally available?

635
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: Like?

636
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: Do you think that he showed you the same love

637
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: or he cared the same way you can?

638
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 4: I would like to believe. So you know this, this

639
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 4: happens all the time. Man, This ain't my first rodeo.

640
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 4: You know, you get around people, you show blind loyalty,

641
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 4: they underestimate you, and then you become somebody and then

642
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: you know, the division happens, and you know this is

643
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: this is just on a larger scale. And say, that's

644
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: just the white people I've done this with. I've been

645
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 4: like this all old people.

646
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, But I know that they know they're wrong, right,

647
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: And what I'm saying is fuck for our black people.

648
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: When they do us like that, they feel it, they

649
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: know they're wrong, even if they never say nothing. Sometimes

650
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: I believe that doing business like I'm doing business with

651
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: all the big companies, and I can tell that a

652
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: lot of them don't have any emotion involved in this.

653
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: It's all numbers, it's all.

654
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 4: I don't think that he thinks that he did anything wrong.

655
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: That's what I mean.

656
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: Right, So he may be motionally unavailable in that way

657
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: where it's like I don't see it.

658
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: I keep fluffing it.

659
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: And let's get to how you found out right, Lush

660
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: was fired on camera. When you've seen Lush fied, did

661
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: you already have the information that he was speaking on

662
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: you to Lush or was it after that?

663
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 4: Oh, so it happened like instantly. So what ended happening

664
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 4: was and shout out to Lust man Us is a

665
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 4: good guy. I don't think he tried to cause any

666
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: harm or anything like that. Lush for his sobriety, he

667
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 4: you know, he just has to be real honest, and

668
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 4: he took to getting in the reddit and the discord.

669
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 4: Adam had told me, you know, for our friendship, I

670
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 4: think it's best you don't do the Tuesday show no more.

671
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: I was cool.

672
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 4: I was like, all it is what it is, you know,

673
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 4: focus on everything else because Wednesday show in the food show,

674
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: and yeah, he asked Lush how he talked about it.

675
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 4: Lush was like, you don't think it's a good idea,

676
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 4: but you know he's gonna walk with it. See real

677
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 4: told him, Nah, I ain't rocking with it. If he

678
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: ain't rocking, I ain't rocking. And yeah, solid, super solid,

679
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 4: Lust goes on the discord, and I think people was

680
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 4: like trying to I think he said something along the

681
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 4: lines is they're gonna be changes at No Jumper, and

682
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 4: you know, people just start fishing around, and somehow he said, oh, hey,

683
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 4: he's not going to be on the show, no more

684
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 4: x y Z. It gets back to me and Adam

685
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 4: He's like, how you feeling what's going on? I'm like, listen,

686
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: I was cool, but ain't the reason why the discourse.

687
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: You know what's going on? You feel me?

688
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: So you took it? Yeah, you took it on the

689
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: chin like I feel you. I'm still with you, even

690
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: though I'm making more money on the community. I'm still

691
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: with you. It's cool, You're gonna take me off now.

692
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: Now I'm hearing it through Lush and a whole bunch

693
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: of people that we don't know.

694
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 4: Mm hm.

695
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: And so Adam calls you you tell him, and I

696
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: don't appreciate that.

697
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: Let's let's let's didn't even tell me.

698
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: The discord. He was saying it, and he was talking

699
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: about it in the discord. That's what I'm saying.

700
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 4: And a couple of people from Discord, you know, reached

701
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 4: out like hey, he and there.

702
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: Saying x y z x y z okay, okay, okay.

703
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 4: And you know, so when Adam, you know, he was

704
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 4: trying to be cool, like hey, what's going on, I'm like, hey, listen.

705
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, I was cool until you know, I'm hearing

706
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 4: my business out there in the discord.

707
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: He's like, what you mean here to the discord.

708
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, check it out. I ain't no rat,

709
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: but I'm hearing how you really feel about me. So

710
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 4: he started fishing, like hey, what the fuck? He started

711
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 4: asking a discord people, hey, what was that about? A

712
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 4: d And they told him like, oh, Lush, you're saying

713
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 4: this about him, BLUs, you're saying this. So he's like,

714
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 4: oh man, my bad man. He's like, I ain't really

715
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 4: do this, and I'm like, listen, bro, all you gotta

716
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 4: do is tell me how you really feel. Like I

717
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 4: wasn't tripping, tell me how you really feel. So he

718
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,479
Speaker 4: was like, look, he did sense me his whole text

719
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: thread with Lush, and within that text thread, I'm reading

720
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: what he's saying. He's saying like, oh, ad and them's

721
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 4: got their own thing going on. You know, she real

722
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 4: might leave too, but I can handle it. You know

723
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 4: what I mean, like basically, just what I thought anyway

724
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 4: was that you know, what we were doing was affecting him, right,

725
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 4: So when I when I read that, he gets mad.

726
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm sad I even got to do this.

727
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 4: Lush is this? And then you know, starts talking about

728
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 4: Lush and then he goes on there as far.

729
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: As Lush, that's what got Lush fired?

730
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: What what do you think made him confined in Lush?

731
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 4: Honestly, I think it wasn't necessarily even Lush telling me.

732
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 4: It was that he had to tell me how he

733
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 4: honestly felt about me, right, instead of sugarcoating.

734
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: But I'm saying he admitted to speaking with Lush and confidence.

735
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: I ain't saying that Lush told you.

736
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't.

737
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 4: I don't get it, though, I don't get why. You know,

738
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 4: Lush was feeling relatively new, and I thought that me

739
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 4: and this relationship was, you know, way more closer than theirs.

740
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 4: I don't know what would it possess him to talk

741
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 4: to Lush.

742
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: You know, when I think about it, it's almost like

743
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: Lush gives off.

744
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: He kind of disarms you.

745
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: He kind of gives off this like unconfrontational, like vibe.

746
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: It's like you you don't give off. You know you

747
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: give off. I'm a d you know the vibration. You

748
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: know what I am. I disagree with you. I stand

749
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: on principal.

750
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 2: You know nothing.

751
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm.

752
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 4: Not gonna if you want homeboy, I can look past

753
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 4: a few things. But you know, if I really feel

754
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 4: something in my heart, I feel like it's my my

755
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 4: you know, if I do my due villages man to

756
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 4: keep it real, tell you all I feel to the people.

757
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: Did I'm saying? Do you think that put a wall up?

758
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: Like for Adam? Yeah, because he may be used to

759
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: he may be more comfortable with that.

760
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

761
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, certain new moves that he made people are not

762
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 4: using challenging them because you know they depending on that paycheck,

763
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 4: right Because I'm sitting there looking at it like, man, listen,

764
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 4: y'all can sit there and take this ship. Because I

765
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 4: ain't gonna talk to me on a nigga bag. I'm

766
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 4: gonna tell them how I feel.

767
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell everybody.

768
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: And I think that that's the reason why I think

769
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: with Lush, he felt like he ain't gonna cross me

770
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: because he really need me, He really need that. He

771
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: didn't he probably felt like I can talk to him

772
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: on this level. For some reason, that was kind of interesting.

773
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: I didn't understand why he did that. Do you think y'all? Yeah, exactly, exactly.

774
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you got the money, you know you like man.

775
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: Because now he seems to be saying he going a

776
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: different direction? Does that? What does that mean to you?

777
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: When he says he's going a different direction?

778
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: That's weird.

779
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's weird. That's weird. Do you think he'll

780
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: be able to survive like that?

781
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 4: Yeah? He's right, he.

782
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: Said there, Do you do it connatural?

783
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: That makes sense? He seems to.

784
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: And I get a few more questions to you. He

785
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: seems to say that your situation or not even him.

786
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: There's been a nowive out there that says, y'all situation

787
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: kind of near was rory and mall situation.

788
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that?

789
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say no because I don't. For one, I

790
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 4: don't even know what happened with this situation. Really, this

791
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 4: wasn't over money when it came down to me.

792
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: That's what I that's what I think.

793
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: This is just style difference, right for you, it's betrayal

794
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: for Adam and with style differences, to him, just not

795
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: knowing what to say. I don't get what his issue was.

796
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: But for you, it's like, damn, bro, you said that.

797
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: That's why I get.

798
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 4: I get the issue it was. You know, we became,

799
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 4: like he said, with your he didn't know we was

800
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 4: that ambitious. And by the time that he can, you know,

801
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 4: see what was going on. He didn't have no contracts

802
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 4: on this, and he couldn't stop.

803
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: It, right, And I know that part I'm saying why

804
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: he couldn't. These dudes must not be like for me, Bro,

805
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: I come from the streets, so you got to learn

806
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: how to deal with people, right. You got to learn

807
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: how to kind of manage if you're a boss. So

808
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: it's like, I feel like he should have had an

809
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: approach to be able to manage that, or figure a

810
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: way to eat with y'all, some kind of high man

811
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 1: something instead.

812
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 4: Of we would we wouldn't even we wouldn't even be

813
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 4: doing what we're doing right now if he didn't tell

814
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: us to. And honestly, early on, if he said, hey,

815
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 4: this is working, I'll tell you guys to put under unbrother,

816
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 4: we would have did it.

817
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: See what I'm saying, It's just a matter of a conversation.

818
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: That's it matter of a conversation.

819
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: I truly believe that it's difference, you know, between you

820
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: and you guys and Royal real Maul high te real feeling.

821
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: Are you afraid? Do you feel scared?

822
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: Do you feel paring or any butterflies in your stomach?

823
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 4: Tell no, we just sold out the l rang six

824
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 4: hours to to sold out shows.

825
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: We do.

826
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 4: We have to blow this November as well too.

827
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: We got more shows on Horizon.

828
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: You're getting a lot of support from the people, man,

829
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: some of the some of the biggest people in podcast

830
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: are reaching out and talking to us to figure out

831
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 4: what we want to do. So we know we're in

832
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 4: a good situation.

833
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: We yeah, for sure, you know. And I'm on y'all line.

834
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: You know, your boy Joe Buden but put it out

835
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: on Patreon, and you know they say certain things. Right,

836
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: I'm just shaking up podcast and I'm bringing information.

837
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: And then and then kind of talk we talk. I

838
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: appreciate that, brother.

839
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 4: I appreciate bro because yeah, but.

840
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: I appreciate you stopping by.

841
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 3: Man.

842
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: Like I say, if y'all go live or something, hit me, man,

843
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: I join talk to you talk this. I need to

844
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: highly tea real. I think y'all gonna do great things

845
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: in the market.

846
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 4: Bro. Thank you. That's my son. We're good over here.

847
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: That's what's up.

848
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 4: Man.

849
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: You have a good day. I'll reach back to you.

850
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 4: Man.

851
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 2: You too, brother,