WEBVTT - Israel-Iran Truce in Question; President Trump Calls for Rate Cuts

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here

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<v Speaker 2>are the stories we're following today.

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<v Speaker 3>Karen, we begin with the latest from the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 3>Two days after the US dropped bunker buster bombs on

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<v Speaker 3>Iran's key underground nuclear sites, President Trump said a ceasefire

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<v Speaker 3>is in effect between Israel and Iran. The President announced

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<v Speaker 3>it in a truth social post. Last night. Israeli Prime

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<v Speaker 3>Minister Benjamin Netanyaho confirmed that he's agreed to it and

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<v Speaker 3>that he's achieved his war aims. But this morning there

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<v Speaker 3>are questions whether this truce will hold. We get the

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<v Speaker 3>very latest from Bloomberg Middle East anchored Jumana Bursechi.

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<v Speaker 4>They've also said that Israel will respond forcefully to a

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<v Speaker 4>breach of truth. And if you remember, it's quite similar

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<v Speaker 4>to the wording of the truce agreement that Israel had

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<v Speaker 4>in place with Hezbalah at the time when they agreed

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<v Speaker 4>the ceasefire. It was a ceasfire and principle, but again

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<v Speaker 4>Israel reserved the right to still strike back at certain

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<v Speaker 4>Hesbala targets should they deem to have contravened the seas fart.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Bloomberg's Jamanibersat you're reporting in this morning, Israel's military

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<v Speaker 3>set it identified missiles fired from Iran. Defense Minister Israel

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<v Speaker 3>Katz said he instructed his military to respond forcefully. Iran

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<v Speaker 3>is denying that it has launched a new attack, Nathan.

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<v Speaker 2>The ceasefire announcement comes after Iran launched missiles at a

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<v Speaker 2>US airbase and Cutter and retaliation for the bunker Buster attack.

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<v Speaker 2>T Iran launched fourteen missiles at the base, the same

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<v Speaker 2>number as the bunker Busters dropped on its nuclear sites.

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<v Speaker 2>All but one of the missiles were intercepted and no

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<v Speaker 2>one was hurt. Bloomber's Paul Wallace has more from Dubai.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Iran had to do something to save face,

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<v Speaker 5>if nothing else, with its domestic population. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>the Americans well knew that. It just depended what Iran

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<v Speaker 5>would do and how spectacular and how aggressive that retaliation

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<v Speaker 5>would be. In the end, it seemed like it was

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<v Speaker 5>very choreographed, very calibrated, and there's even been speculation that

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<v Speaker 5>Katar knew that this was coming and was actually okay

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<v Speaker 5>with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Bloomer's Paul Wallace reports President Trump spoke with Cutters and

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<v Speaker 2>Mirror about the ceasfire and asked for his help persuading

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<v Speaker 2>Around to agree to it. It's still unclear whether the

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<v Speaker 2>truce will hold or if it'll lead to new discussions

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<v Speaker 2>about Around's nuclear program and Karen.

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<v Speaker 3>Markets are fluctuating with every headline coming out of the

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<v Speaker 3>Middle East. Futures are higher, but off their best levels

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<v Speaker 3>of the morning. That follows yesterday's one percent gain on

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<v Speaker 3>Wall Street, and we're seeing oil prices continue to fall

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<v Speaker 3>as well. Right now, nine X crews down more than

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<v Speaker 3>three and a half percent, trading just above sixty six

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<v Speaker 3>dollars a barrel. Brent is also down more than three

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<v Speaker 3>and a half percent at of nearly sixty nine dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Bloomberg Energy reporter Stephen Stepzinski says oil traders see less

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<v Speaker 3>risk in the market.

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<v Speaker 6>Oil prices are back below the June twelve level. You're

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<v Speaker 6>seeing the market take a large sigh of leaf, and

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<v Speaker 6>that is largely because while we've been through potentially the

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<v Speaker 6>worst flare up in US Iranian conflict in decades, oil

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<v Speaker 6>kept flowing and trade via the Strait of Hormus was

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<v Speaker 6>not affected.

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<v Speaker 3>In Bloomberg, Stevens Stebsinski notes the Middle East pumps about

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<v Speaker 3>a third of the world's crude supply.

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan the is Israel Around ceasefire comes as leaders gather

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<v Speaker 2>for a NATO summit in the Hague. Ahead of the

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<v Speaker 2>two day meeting, most of the NATO member states agreed

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<v Speaker 2>on a proposed target to raise defense spending to five

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<v Speaker 2>percent of GDP by twenty thirty five. NATO's Secretary General

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Ruda says the ramp up and spending would be

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<v Speaker 2>a quantum leap as.

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<v Speaker 7>The world's becomes more dangerous at our leaders will take

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<v Speaker 7>both desisions to strengthen our collective defense, making NATO a stronger,

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<v Speaker 7>a fair, and a more lethal alliance member.

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<v Speaker 2>It as a new target has not won approval of

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<v Speaker 2>all of NATO, with Spain fighting for an opt out

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<v Speaker 2>that could derail talks to making place in the Hague.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, I'm back in Washington, Karen Fedchair J. Powell begins

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<v Speaker 3>two days of testimony on the economy before Congress. Later

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<v Speaker 3>this morning, he'll appear before the House Financial Services Committee.

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<v Speaker 3>In a post on social media this morning, President Trump

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<v Speaker 3>said he helps Congress quote really works Powell over for

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<v Speaker 3>not lowering rates already. We get more from Bloomberg's Michael McKee.

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<v Speaker 8>The Fed chair has been squarely in the President's sites

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<v Speaker 8>ever since Donald Trump returned to the White House. Trump

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<v Speaker 8>wants him to lower interest rates now, today and tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 8>J Powell gets his chance to turn the tables. While

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<v Speaker 8>Powell will be more circumspect and polite than the President,

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<v Speaker 8>he'll explain the Central Bank doesn't want to lower rates

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<v Speaker 8>until it knows the impact of Trump's tariff taxes and

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<v Speaker 8>the budget bill on the economy. Expect Republicans to defend

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<v Speaker 8>the President and Democrats to defend the Fed, and Chairman

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<v Speaker 8>Powell to be as neutral as he can be. Michael McKee,

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<v Speaker 8>Bloomberg Radio.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Mike, thanks and stay with Bloomberg for full

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<v Speaker 3>coverage of Chair Powell's testimony before the House. Will have

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<v Speaker 3>it for you starting at ten am Wall Street Time

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<v Speaker 3>on Bloomberg Radio and the Bloomberg Podcast page on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>Return to Politics now on Nathan and on a sweltering

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<v Speaker 2>day at New York City, Democrats will vote in today's

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<v Speaker 2>mayoral primary election. Bloomberg's Lisa Matteo joins us in Manhattan

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<v Speaker 2>with the latest. Lisa, good morning, Good morning, Karen, and

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully that heat will not affect the turnout now. Polls

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<v Speaker 2>open at six am and voters have a long list

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<v Speaker 2>of candidates choose from eleven or running for the official

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic ticket, but survey showed the contest comes down to

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<v Speaker 2>two men, former Governor Andrew Cuomo and New York State

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<v Speaker 2>Assembly Member so In Ramandami. Now, last night, the former

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<v Speaker 2>governor spoke at a rally for Cuomo for mayor.

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<v Speaker 9>It's about the working families, It's about the struggling middle class.

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<v Speaker 9>It's about people worried about the kitchen table issues, trying

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<v Speaker 9>to figure out how to pay for groceries and pay

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<v Speaker 9>for their rent, and pay for tuition and pay for taxes.

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<v Speaker 9>That's what the Democratic Party is.

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<v Speaker 3>All about now.

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<v Speaker 10>Meanwhile, Mandam been advocating for rend freeze's and free childcare.

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<v Speaker 11>New Yorkers are hungry for a new kind of politics,

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<v Speaker 11>the politics that puts working people first. And we're seeing

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<v Speaker 11>that it's not just in one borough, it's not just

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<v Speaker 11>with one kind of New Yorker, it's across this entire city.

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<v Speaker 10>Polls have largely shown Cuomo winning, but a new Emerson

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<v Speaker 10>College poll showed Mandanmi coming out on top in the

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<v Speaker 10>city's rank choice voting comptroller Brad Landler. Lander is polling

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<v Speaker 10>third in some surveys and has formed an alliance with Mamdanie.

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<v Speaker 10>He had focused on his experience as a manager and

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<v Speaker 10>his opposition to President Trump. City Council Speaker Adrian Adams

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<v Speaker 10>also vying for the nomination, running on her experience in government.

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<v Speaker 10>Other candidates while they include former Democratic National Committee Vice

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<v Speaker 10>chair Michael Blake, New York State Senator Zelnor Myrie, New

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<v Speaker 10>York State Senator Jessica Ramos, former New York City Controller

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<v Speaker 10>Scott Stringer, and retired hedge fund manager Whitney Tilson. Michael Bloomberg,

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<v Speaker 10>the founder majority owner of Bloomberg LP, the parent company

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<v Speaker 10>of Bloomberg Radio, has endorsed Andrew Cuomo Manhattan, Lis Matteo

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<v Speaker 10>Bloomberg Radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Nor Lisa thank You and This year's Democratic nominee will

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<v Speaker 3>face incumbent Mayor Eric Adams, who is elected, of course

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<v Speaker 3>as a Democrat, but he skipped today's primary to run

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<v Speaker 3>as an independent in November. On the Republican side of

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<v Speaker 3>today's ballot, Curtis Sliwa, founder of the anti crime patrol

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<v Speaker 3>group The Guardian Angels, is running unopposed, he will once

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<v Speaker 3>again be the Republican nominee.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Nathan, How does ranked choice voting work? Bloomberg Gina

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<v Speaker 2>Survetti continues our coverage of the New York City mayoral race.

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<v Speaker 2>In Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 12>Voters choose their favorite candidate, but also can select a

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<v Speaker 12>second favorite, a third, and so on up to five.

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<v Speaker 12>If a candidate gets a majority of first place votes,

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<v Speaker 12>that person wins. If not, the candidate with the fewest

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<v Speaker 12>first place votes is eliminated. Voting machines then examine the

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<v Speaker 12>number two choices on every ballot cast for the eliminated

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<v Speaker 12>person and distribute those votes among the remaining field. The

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<v Speaker 12>process continues until a candidate garner's a majority. For the

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<v Speaker 12>New York mayoral primary, if no candidate wins more than

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<v Speaker 12>fifty percent of the votes on the first ballot, election

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<v Speaker 12>officials planned to wait a week before initiating the ranked

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<v Speaker 12>choice tabulation process in order to include mailed in absentee

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<v Speaker 12>ballots in New York. Gena.

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<v Speaker 3>Cervetti, Bloomberg Radio, Gina, thank you. Turning back to Washington,

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<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Court is allowing President Trump to resume his

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<v Speaker 3>program of swiftly deporting migrants to countries other than their homelands.

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<v Speaker 3>For now. Bloomberg Zamy Morris has more from the nation's capital.

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<v Speaker 13>The Supreme Court lifted a judge's order requiring the Trump

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<v Speaker 13>administration to give people ten days notice and a chance

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<v Speaker 13>to object before deporting them to a third country. The

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<v Speaker 13>order marks a shift for the High Court. The justices

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<v Speaker 13>previously pushed back against the administration's efforts to send some

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<v Speaker 13>immigrants to harsh or potentially dangerous locations with minimal notice.

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<v Speaker 13>The decision drew a scathing descent from Justice Sonya Sotomayor,

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<v Speaker 13>who said the High Court's action was a gross abuse

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<v Speaker 13>of its authority. In Washington, Amy Morris Bloomberg Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Amy, thank you. Another legal blow for the President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>and his battle with Harvard University. For the second time

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<v Speaker 2>in a week, a federal judge in Boston is issued

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<v Speaker 2>a court order letting the Ivy League keep hosting foreign students.

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<v Speaker 2>The President had tried to bar the students, setting a

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<v Speaker 2>law to safeguard national security. Time off for a look

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<v Speaker 2>at some of the other stories making news in New

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<v Speaker 2>York and around the world, And for that we're joined

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<v Speaker 2>by Bloomberg's Michael Barr, Michael Good morning.

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<v Speaker 14>Good morning, Karen. Oppressive heat and humanity are slamming nearly

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<v Speaker 14>half the country, and today is going to be another

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<v Speaker 14>hot day for many. Bloomberg meniorrologist Rob Carolyn has the latest, Michael.

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<v Speaker 15>High pressure remains situated over the Carolinas, so the hot

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<v Speaker 15>weather continues. We have extreme heat warnings stretching from the

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<v Speaker 15>Carolinas through the district in Baltimore on through Philadelphia, New York,

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<v Speaker 15>and up into southern New England. Many of these cities

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<v Speaker 15>are going to see afternoon high temperatures at or above

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<v Speaker 15>one hundred degrees with the heat index over one hundred

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<v Speaker 15>and five, and that's why those extreme heat warnings are

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<v Speaker 15>in effect. Further to the west, we're looking at lots

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<v Speaker 15>of heat advisories. How he is going to continue to

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<v Speaker 15>shift down into the Atlantics. Of the hot weather in

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<v Speaker 15>many locations continues into Wednesday, if not Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael.

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<v Speaker 14>Thanks Rob. A jury has now watched nearly forty five

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<v Speaker 14>minutes of recordings of marathon sex events, considered important evidence

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<v Speaker 14>in the sex trafficking and racketeering trial of music mogul

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<v Speaker 14>Sean Diddy Combs. The prosecution says the jury viewed explicit

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<v Speaker 14>footage of two of Combe's former girlfriends sexually involved with

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<v Speaker 14>male sex workers while he filmed the encounters. Combs has

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<v Speaker 14>pleaded not guilty to the charges. Prosecutors planned to rest

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<v Speaker 14>today after a defense presentation. Closing arguments are scheduled for Thursday.

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<v Speaker 14>Attorney General Pam Bondi's hearing before the House Appropriations Committee

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<v Speaker 14>quickly devolved into shouting matches with Democratic lawmakers. Democratic Representative

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<v Speaker 14>Madeleine Dean of Pennsylvania pressed Bondi about reports that she

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<v Speaker 14>advised and signed off on President Trump's acceptance of a

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<v Speaker 14>luxury jet from Cutter.

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<v Speaker 12>True that you gave advice that this was legally permissible?

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<v Speaker 13>Yes or no. I will not discuss any advice that

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<v Speaker 13>my Office of Legal Counsel gives to the President of

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<v Speaker 13>the United States on any matter.

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<v Speaker 14>Meanwhile, Senate Republicans are considering a forty thousand dollars cap

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<v Speaker 14>on state and local tax deductions, but want to lower

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<v Speaker 14>the income threshold. It's a bid to resolve a standoff

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<v Speaker 14>with House Republicans. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma, a

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<v Speaker 14>key negotiator, said he plans to make the offer to

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<v Speaker 14>House Republicans from New York, New Jersey and California. Other

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<v Speaker 14>issues still need to be resolved, including Medicaid cuts to

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<v Speaker 14>rural hospitals. Global news twenty four hours a day and

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<v Speaker 14>whenever you want it with the Bloomberg News Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 14>Michael Barn. This is Bloomberg Heron.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Michael Barr, thank you. It is time now

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<v Speaker 2>for the Bloomberg Sports Update, and here's John stash Hour.

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<v Speaker 3>John, Good morning, morning Karen.

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<v Speaker 16>It was just ten days ago the Mets were flying

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<v Speaker 16>in high They had won fifteen of eighteen. They were

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<v Speaker 16>twenty seven and seven at home. They had the best

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<v Speaker 16>record in baseball, a five and a half game lead

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<v Speaker 16>in the NL. Since then, ten games, nine losses. They

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<v Speaker 16>scored only nineteen runs in those nine defeats, so I

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<v Speaker 16>won four. Versus Atlanta, the Braids won three to two

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<v Speaker 17>Once the bottom of the lineup, we're having a hard

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<v Speaker 16>Yankees in Cincinnati had a first anting home run from

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<v Speaker 16>The NBA Draft against tomorrow, the Celtics, that have moved

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<v Speaker 16>Tyrese Halliburton had surgery on the torn achilles he suffered

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<v Speaker 16>The Pacers and Celtics are gonna play most, if not all,

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<v Speaker 16>of next season without their star players. Both Halliburton and

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<v Speaker 16>Jason Tatum tore their achilles in the playoffs. That should

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<v Speaker 16>help the Knicks in the East.

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<v Speaker 3>Nick still without a coach.

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<v Speaker 16>Latest name linked to the Knicks job James Barrego, former

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<v Speaker 16>coach in Charlotte, John Stanshatward Bloomberg Sports.

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<v Speaker 13>Karen Nathan.

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<v Speaker 1>Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Serious Exam

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<v Speaker 1>and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. A ceasefire announcement between Israel

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<v Speaker 3>and Iran may already be in doubt hours after President

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump posted about it on social media. Israel is

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<v Speaker 3>accusing Iran of breaching the truce, joining us from Tel

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<v Speaker 3>Aviv Bloomberg News Israel Bureau Chief Ethan Bronner Ethan, good morning.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen a flurry of headlines since the President posted

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<v Speaker 3>that cease fire announcement last night on truth Social what's

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<v Speaker 3>the latest? You can tell.

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<v Speaker 18>Us well, as you said, Nathan, So right after the

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<v Speaker 18>President issue this announcement, there was I think there were

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<v Speaker 18>six volleys of missiles at Israel repeatedly. One after there

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<v Speaker 18>was forty minutes or so we were running in and

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<v Speaker 18>out of bomb shelters. But then the Israelis announced that

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<v Speaker 18>they had accepted it as well, and it seemed it

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<v Speaker 18>was happening. And then just a little while ago, two

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<v Speaker 18>more missiles went to the north. The Iranians apparently say

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<v Speaker 18>they didn't send them, but the Israelis are quite clear

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<v Speaker 18>that who did send them, and they've already seen a

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<v Speaker 18>fragment of it landed in northern Israel. So there clearly

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<v Speaker 18>was some kind of a vile and the Israelis have

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<v Speaker 18>threatened said they're going to carry out a very severe

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<v Speaker 18>attack in Tehran in retaliation. So you're right that it's

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<v Speaker 18>a pretty fragile. My instinct is that it will evolve

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<v Speaker 18>in the next hours, that we will see some kind

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<v Speaker 18>of a truce, because everyone seems to want it, but

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<v Speaker 18>you never know.

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<v Speaker 3>What do we know about the terms of the truth

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<v Speaker 3>that were announced by President Trump last night. How is

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<v Speaker 3>it going to work?

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<v Speaker 18>We don't really know. I'm assuming that there will be

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<v Speaker 18>a kind of formal, you know, quiet for quiet announcement

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<v Speaker 18>between Israel and Iran, and then there'll be a sort

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<v Speaker 18>of unspoken agreement between the United States and Israel, as

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<v Speaker 18>there is with regard to Levin and Hazbollah, in which

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<v Speaker 18>Israel says, if we see clear violations, we are going

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<v Speaker 18>to take you to a lateral action, and the Americans

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<v Speaker 18>are going to say fine. By now, Iran is a

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<v Speaker 18>lot farther away than Lebanon and a lot harder to

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<v Speaker 18>suddenly take action. But that's my instinct about where we're headed.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Now, ahead of this apparent break of the seafire,

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<v Speaker 3>Israel had said that it achieved its war aims in

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<v Speaker 3>agreeing to this. Does that mean from the Israeli perspective

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<v Speaker 3>that it no longer sees Iran as a nuclear thread.

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<v Speaker 19>I think it more or less means that, or at

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<v Speaker 19>least that it's its nuclear program is set back sufficiently

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<v Speaker 19>two years or something that it's going to be very

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<v Speaker 19>hard if you have all of these broken centrifuges and

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<v Speaker 19>all of these enrichment sites that are impossible to get

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<v Speaker 19>into or to send.

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<v Speaker 18>Power to it for a while. I think there's the

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<v Speaker 18>sense that we need to still see all of that

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<v Speaker 18>with greater clarity. The yes as a nuclear threshold state

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<v Speaker 18>Iran has been pushed aside for now, and the Israeli

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<v Speaker 18>is also saying that they took care of eighty percent

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<v Speaker 18>of the launchers of ballistic missiles, and so that's the

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<v Speaker 18>less of a threat as well. Obviously it is in

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<v Speaker 18>total victory, but enough for them to declare it as such.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course it came after Iran lobbed the same

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<v Speaker 3>number of missiles as the amount of bunker buster bombs

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<v Speaker 3>that the US dropped on its nuclear sites over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>What can we expect when it comes to further US

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<v Speaker 3>involvement here, Well, I mean the.

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<v Speaker 18>Numbers may have been the same, but it was a

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<v Speaker 18>little bit like a kabuki theater. I mean, they dropped

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<v Speaker 18>fourteen missile some kind of projectiles on an American base,

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<v Speaker 18>but they told the Americans and the Kataris where the

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<v Speaker 18>base is in advance. They were all stopped. President Trump

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<v Speaker 18>was kind of narrating it on his truth social as

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<v Speaker 18>it was happening, So it was kind of an active theater.

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<v Speaker 18>I don't think the Americans are planning any kind of retaliation,

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<v Speaker 18>and everyone's hoping that would be it from that perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>So does that mean that we could see resumption of

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<v Speaker 3>discussions around Iran's nuclear program? As you mentioned, there are

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<v Speaker 3>still a lot of questions about the status of the

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<v Speaker 3>program following all these attacks.

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<v Speaker 18>Yes, I assume there will be an attempt to get

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<v Speaker 18>these talks going again. But I think that the American

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<v Speaker 18>and the Rushalian perspective is that what has been destroyed

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<v Speaker 18>is so significant that there isn't an urgency to the

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<v Speaker 18>talks the way there once was.

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<v Speaker 3>So to that extent, where does this last twelve days

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<v Speaker 3>since the Israeli attack on Iran that began all this,

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<v Speaker 3>where does this leave the Iranian regime Ethan? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen President Trump muse kind of openly about the

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<v Speaker 3>possibility of regime change by the Iranian people. Could it

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<v Speaker 3>go there?

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<v Speaker 18>Look, I think nobody really you know, predicting revolutions and

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<v Speaker 18>who's is a fool's errand But obviously this government in

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<v Speaker 18>arab this regime is as weak as it has ever been,

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<v Speaker 18>as threatened as it has ever been. It is held on,

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<v Speaker 18>you know, it's got all the leavers of power still

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<v Speaker 18>in its hands. So I don't know what's going to

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<v Speaker 18>happen to it, but there's no question that you know,

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<v Speaker 18>it's friends Russia. China did not come to its aid militarily.

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<v Speaker 18>Its proxies in Lebanon and in Syria and Iraq have

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<v Speaker 18>been almost entirely not eliminated, but certainly diminish. And so

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<v Speaker 18>it is a shadow of its former self as a

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<v Speaker 18>regional power today, and that is what Israel wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for this, Ethan. Great to have you with

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<v Speaker 3>us this morning. That is Ethan Bronner joining us from

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<v Speaker 3>Tel Aviv, Israel Bureau chief for Bloomberg News, Karen Nathan.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's repeat some of our top stories this morning. President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump says he hopes Congress really works fed share J.

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<v Speaker 2>Powell as he gets ready for two days of testimony today.

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<v Speaker 2>The President says interest rates should be two to three

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<v Speaker 2>points lower. Another legal blow for President Trump and his

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<v Speaker 2>battle with Harvard. For the second time in a week,

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<v Speaker 2>a federal judge in Boston is issued a court order

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<v Speaker 2>letting the Ivy League keep hosting foreign students and its

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<v Speaker 2>primary day in New York City, voters will contend with

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<v Speaker 2>extreme heat and a ranked choice ballot in the Democratic

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<v Speaker 2>race for mayor. We have more in those stories coming

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<v Speaker 2>up on Bloomberg Daybreak, Nathan.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Kather, and thank you for that. It is

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<v Speaker 3>a five point twenty two on Wall Street. Want to

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<v Speaker 3>turn now to another one of our top stories. What's

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<v Speaker 3>happening in the Hague. Later today, leaders from the NATO

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<v Speaker 3>Alliance gathering for their annual two day summit, looking to

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<v Speaker 3>lock in big defense spending increases as President Trump prepares

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<v Speaker 3>to make his way to the event. Joining us from

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<v Speaker 3>the Hague this morning is Bloomberg's Oliver Crook. Great to

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<v Speaker 3>speak with you this morning, Oliver, after we heard from

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<v Speaker 3>the Secretary General of NATO Mark Rutta talking about a

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<v Speaker 3>five percent of GDP defense spending goal that would be

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<v Speaker 3>a huge increase from current levels. Does that look like

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to hold? Good morning, Nathan.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, it does look like it's going to hold at

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<v Speaker 20>this stage. I mean, there's a little bit of infighting

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<v Speaker 20>which we can get into, but you know, I think

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<v Speaker 20>that what we've learned about the Trump administration and Donald

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<v Speaker 20>Trump itself is he likes one big, beautiful number, and

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<v Speaker 20>that big beautiful number that NATO wants to present to

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<v Speaker 20>him in order to guarantee continued US support of the

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<v Speaker 20>alliance is five percent five percent of GDP spend on

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<v Speaker 20>an annual basis of every single country within the NATO Alliance.

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<v Speaker 20>As you say, Nathan, the previous requirements were two percent.

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<v Speaker 20>Most countries were not hitting that for a very long

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<v Speaker 20>time you take the average of the last decade, in

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<v Speaker 20>removing the United States, it's closer to one point six percent.

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<v Speaker 20>And now you're in a position where you have these

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<v Speaker 20>nations lining up to basically guarantee to spend about five

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<v Speaker 20>percent of their GDP on defense. Now we should say

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<v Speaker 20>this is not strictly speaking a real five percent. Only

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<v Speaker 20>three point five percent of that is going to be

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<v Speaker 20>on the sort of hard military hardware, the kind of

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<v Speaker 20>traditional military spending we think about guns, ammunition, tanks, aircraft

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<v Speaker 20>and those sorts of things. One point five of that

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<v Speaker 20>is going to be sort of defense adjacent. So let's

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<v Speaker 20>say there is theoretically a war on the eastern flank

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<v Speaker 20>of NATO. You need roads and railways that can carry

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<v Speaker 20>tanks around. You need cybersecurity defense, so those sorts of

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<v Speaker 20>things could also be included. But we should say, Nathan,

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<v Speaker 20>that this, despite the fact that it's maybe not a

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<v Speaker 20>clear and pure five percent, this is a massive uptick

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<v Speaker 20>in terms of European defense spending. And this is something

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<v Speaker 20>that frankly six months ago was completely inconceivable and it's

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<v Speaker 20>becoming a reality over the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 3>We had heard in the lead up to this Oliver

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<v Speaker 3>that Spain was holding out on committing to that five

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<v Speaker 3>percent target. How serious is Spain's sort of reluctance to

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<v Speaker 3>go forward with this.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, they've been really sort of a holdout, and this

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<v Speaker 20>has been a big topic of conversation over the last

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<v Speaker 20>couple of days. I've spoken to a number of defense

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<v Speaker 20>at foreign ministers over the last couple of day, they

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<v Speaker 20>from different European nations. They seem to think that Spain

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<v Speaker 20>is going to get on board. Basically how it works

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<v Speaker 20>as NATO assigns a certain amount of hardware and things

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<v Speaker 20>that each of its members need to basically participate in.

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<v Speaker 20>The point is that Spain says that they can basically

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<v Speaker 20>meet those requirements without spending the three point five percent,

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<v Speaker 20>but can do it with two point one percent. But

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<v Speaker 20>we even heard from Mark Rote yesterday saying that he

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<v Speaker 20>really doesn't think that that's possible and there can't really

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<v Speaker 20>be two speeds and two different requirements for different members

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<v Speaker 20>of NATO. And the second that sort of Spain is

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<v Speaker 20>unwilling to do it. Then you heard started hearing sounds

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<v Speaker 20>from Slovakia. So really what they need to do is

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<v Speaker 20>to present a united front. It's hard to imagine that

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<v Speaker 20>they sort of blow up this whole arrangement just because

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<v Speaker 20>Spain doesn't get on board. So I have to watch

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<v Speaker 20>what we get over the next twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 3>And as we wait for a President Trump to make

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<v Speaker 3>his way over there following the announcement of the cease fire,

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<v Speaker 3>with the shakiness surrounding that, Now, where does this position

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump as he heads to NATO.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, so it's a really interesting question. It's something that

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<v Speaker 20>I've been sort of wondering about. You know, if he's

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<v Speaker 20>got basically a big win under his belt, saying that

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<v Speaker 20>he's a destroyed all of Iran's nuclear facilities or to

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<v Speaker 20>a very large extent, b has managed to sort of

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<v Speaker 20>negotiate a ceasefire. He comes to the sort of NATO

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<v Speaker 20>meeting potentially in high spirits, but also in a position

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<v Speaker 20>to basically make a lot of demands and to feel

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<v Speaker 20>very sort of good about pushing around the rest of

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<v Speaker 20>the world because, as we know, the Europeans have basically

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<v Speaker 20>had zero influence on the situation in the Middleies, whether

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<v Speaker 20>it's Gaza, whether it's Iran, all of these sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 20>And he comes here to NATO and really does feel

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<v Speaker 20>a little bit like the sort of you know, the

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<v Speaker 20>King of NATO. This is all down to the fact

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<v Speaker 20>that basically the Trump administration, Donald Trump has threatened basically

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<v Speaker 20>not to come to the aid of certain NATO members

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<v Speaker 20>if they do not reach their targets, and that is

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<v Speaker 20>what has got everybody in line. But likely if he

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<v Speaker 20>still comes to the summit, and that is our base

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<v Speaker 20>case assumption, that he will be becoming a in high

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<v Speaker 20>spirits and be in a very sort of powerful position,

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<v Speaker 20>even more powerful potentially than previously.

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