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Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janna Kramer and Michael Cosson. I am

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Speaker 1: one of your co hosts, Mike, as you all know,

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Speaker 1: and I'm really taking this Mike Monday thing to a

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Speaker 1: whole another level in demanding my own podcast episode. Uh No,

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Speaker 1: you know, those of you who followed Janna know she's

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Speaker 1: been working her ass off on this movie that she's

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Speaker 1: shooting for a lifetime and I just I credit her

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Speaker 1: so much because of the adversity that she's had to

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Speaker 1: overcome with having pneumonia the first week and in the

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Speaker 1: past two weeks, dealing with people testing positive for COVID

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Speaker 1: and false positives and all the above. She's really just

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Speaker 1: kind of been grinding a way, and unfortunately, because of

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Speaker 1: the changing schedule with all of that, we weren't able

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Speaker 1: to get her on here today. So I'm holding down

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Speaker 1: have been more perfect time. I mean to have the

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Speaker 1: guests that we have today, These two wonderful ladies talk

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Speaker 1: about Um. They wrote a book called Be All In,

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Speaker 1: which is all about kids and sports and parents and

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Speaker 1: that dynamic which those of you who are avid listeners

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Speaker 1: to this podcast. No, I'm very passionate about So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about things with you know, kids getting trophies

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Speaker 1: for everything, and how parents should behave at sporting events

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Speaker 1: and how much to push your kid, how much to

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Speaker 1: pull back. So we have some great conversations around that.

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Speaker 1: Christie Rampone is a US women national soccer player who

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Speaker 1: spent seventeen years on the team, is three time gold medalist.

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Speaker 1: She's a legend in international soccer. And her partner of

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Speaker 1: leading neuropsychologists in her in her field. So we have

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Speaker 1: some great discussions coming up. It's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. Let's take a break and dive right in.

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Speaker 1: Al Right, guys, Uh, we're so excited about our guests today.

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Speaker 1: Janna had to step out for a little bit. She's

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Speaker 1: got a lot going on shooting a movie. But we

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Speaker 1: have the legendary Christie Pierce Rampone and Dr Christine Keene

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Speaker 1: who are here to talk about basically the future of

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Speaker 1: our children and and those of you who don't know

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Speaker 1: who these two are. Christie is known around the world

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Speaker 1: as one of the most legendary soccer players in the

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Speaker 1: history of the game for sure, has represented US in

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Speaker 1: team for many, many years. And Dr Christine give us

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Speaker 1: a little bit of your background to educate us on

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Speaker 1: where your specialties at. So, I'm a clinical neuropsychologist and

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Speaker 1: I specialized in sports neuropsychology because for years I've been

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Speaker 1: working with athletes dealing with sports concussion mainly. So that's

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Speaker 1: what led to our collaboration from you know, working with

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Speaker 1: kids who have had concussions for sure. So how did

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Speaker 1: you guys, so we're here to talk about your book

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Speaker 1: be all In, which is about raising kids for success

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Speaker 1: in sports in life. How did you guys meet and

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Speaker 1: kind of learned to, you know, begin to collaborate on

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Speaker 1: this project. Yeah, so we we teamed up on you know,

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Speaker 1: guideline throughout our book to just help them, you know,

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Speaker 1: kids through sports and trying to teach them is more

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Speaker 1: than just winning. Yes, we all want to win, we're

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Speaker 1: all very competitive, but when those moments of losses um

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Speaker 1: educating their parents along the way about how the games

432
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: changed so much because as you know, like the game

433
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 1: keeps evolving year after year and com parents evolved with

434
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 1: the game. That's that's really that's actually really cool to

435
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 1: know that after the game, like you can be helping

436
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: the relationship between the parents and the kids because you're

437
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: coaching them almost together, and like wrapping that up so

438
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: the parent knows how to talk to their kid a

439
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 1: little bit more instead of asking these questions that don't matter. Now,

440
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 1: let me ask you in the opposite end of the spectrum. Okay,

441
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: So I have a brother that's fourteen years younger than me,

442
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: and I remember going to his baseball games. I was

443
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 1: like early in my NFL days. He was playing you know,

444
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 1: like his first year kid pitch and it was like

445
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: in my off season, and I remember coming to his games.

446
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm like hot, you know, early summer Saturday mornings at

447
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: eight am, and it's like watching paint dry. I mean,

448
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 1: especially the first year a kid bitch just like ball

449
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: ball ball, strike out, Like everyone's walking everyone's striking out,

450
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: no one's hitting the ball. How do you as parents

451
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 1: kind of mentally approached that when your kid is in

452
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: that young infant stages of sports and you go to

453
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: some of these these events and it is watching like

454
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 1: it's like watching paint dry, and you're like, how do

455
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 1: you kind of stay enthusiastic and excited for your kid

456
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: when you're there You're not enjoying it yet your kids

457
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: aren't entertaining you. Yet You're like in your head, you're

458
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: like you feel bad. You're like, yeah, ring on the

459
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: side somewhere with the other parents. Well, first note to sell,

460
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: do not play on your phone because it's that one

461
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: time your kid looks over in your phone. My younger

462
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: daughter reminding me of that early on, like mom, you know,

463
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: and then she got to the point of always looking

464
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: at me and I'd give her the thumbs up, like

465
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: keep going, you know, like make sure that they're you're engaged.

466
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: But now those are parents, like we would say sports

467
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: parenting is hard work, like and knowing that, especially at

468
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: a young, boring youth game, like you definitely have to

469
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: stay involved. You know, you have to know the score,

470
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: make sure you know the score, and you know, chier

471
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: human and but isn't it like if you're really there

472
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 1: for what you're there for? I mean in an ideal world, right,

473
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: it's really exciting when your kids really good, But if

474
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 1: you're there to support your child, you think your emotions

475
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: would kind of look the same regardless. I mean, obviously

476
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: sports is exciting when somebody's excelling, but you know, whether

477
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: you're there for that t ball game, right, you're still

478
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: there for your child. So you would hope that there'd

479
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: be some stability in how you, you know, saw these

480
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: kids and how you you're proud of your kid where

481
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: they're at the two so you're kind of pulling from

482
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: that part of like why you're there, like really that's

483
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 1: the big time as a parent or something like you know,

484
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 1: as ir relative to see like do they actually really

485
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Speaker 1: enjoy this too? Like it it's boring to you, Like

486
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: are they really getting something out of it? Making sure

487
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: like they're not just bored? And your board and does

488
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: it really align with what you really wanted doing? You know,

489
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: the grand parents you look thrilled because they're in such

490
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 1: a different place than all of us, so they're more

491
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: in touch with that, like the like not getting caught

492
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: up in the game and getting caught up in like

493
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: this is this beautiful kid that I love so much

494
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: and I'm just watching them and have a childhood. So

495
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: they're like more in touch with it than us, and

496
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: we're like, we got ten other things to do today,

497
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: Like you hit a home run, So when I could

498
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:06,959
Speaker 1: leave something like that on your Facebook posts? Okay, Now,

499
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: this is the one of the biggest areas of contention

500
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: for me personally, just my personal beliefs when it comes

501
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: to sports and kids and everything like that. With the

502
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: whole thing about keeping score, okay when and like some

503
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: of these youth sports there's no winners or losers, and

504
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: then the whole trophy thing. Janna. I wish Janna was

505
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: on here right now because my daughter, when we're living

506
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Speaker 1: in l A. Still, she had a dance recital, right,

507
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: and our daughter was the one that was like all

508
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: the other kids were doing the routine. Our daughters like

509
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: running circles, right, and the teacher has has having to

510
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: corral her back into her spot on stage. It was

511
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: the cutest thing ever. We're so proud of her for

512
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: going up there and doing it. And every kid got

513
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: this little trophy with a spinning star on it. So

514
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: we get home, I have the trophy. I was like,

515
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: all right, honey, I'm just gonna throw this away. She

516
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: was like wait, what, like, like why she loves it?

517
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, tomorrow she's gonna forget about this. I'm like,

518
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: why are we going to keep this? Because why like

519
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: why can't us being proud of her, her being proud

520
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: of herself be enough to show her that what she

521
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: did was amazing. She doesn't need this little spinny star

522
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: thing to show her that. So, from both y'all standpoints,

523
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: I would love to hear how you feel about keeping

524
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: score and then the whole trophy thing. Yeah, for me,

525
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: the trophy thing is something that you have to earn, right,

526
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: and then if it's always handed to you don't really

527
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: understand what an accomplishment really is, you know. So we're

528
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: teaching them the wrong things at such yourn age. Just

529
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: something is handed to you, you're never gonna know how

530
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: to earn it, how to like work towards something, and

531
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: they're always going to expect things handed to you. So

532
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: we're sending the wrong message early on as parents, um

533
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: by just allowing them to win trophies. You know that

534
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: for me is um no, No, Like I'm the same

535
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: as you as I take that trophy and I kind

536
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: of put it away because I'll take any star if

537
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: you still yeah, um yeah. I mean that's from an

538
00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: athlete and knowing how hard it is to win, you know,

539
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: an Olympic medal and stuff, and if we start setting up,

540
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, these early expectations for kids that they can't

541
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,239
Speaker 1: meet later in life, it's only gonna set them up

542
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: for failure, you know. So I agree with you encourage

543
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: them and be appreciative of what they've earned or how

544
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: they got there. But just handing it to them to me,

545
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: is um is not helping them that in the long run.

546
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: So I think in like the child development literature, you

547
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: see support for both. So from you know, I agree

548
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: with Christie. I think there's enough organic experiences in a

549
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: child's life that it is important for them to experience

550
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: those successes. So if you keep putting your child, who's

551
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: maybe an average soccer player on elite teams, they're not

552
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: going to experience that. And it's it's good for them

553
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: to get a trophy or win, So you really could

554
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: you could set that up in more of an organic way,

555
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: so you know you can they can feel that it's

556
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: great to feel success. Um, they learn self efficacy that way.

557
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: So I think it's it's good to have those experiences,

558
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: but then not in an artificial way like here's a trophy,

559
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: No you lost, but no, you really want here's a trophy.

560
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: Like how confusing is that? Right? And it could work

561
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: towards something like a girl Scout badge. They actually, you know,

562
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: so you really confine things. There's enough out there, there's

563
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: enough ways, you know, for your child to succeed. Child

564
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: has gifts that you know, maybe haven't developed it, they

565
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: might not be in the right activity. So that's what

566
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 1: I would look for. So so you have that balance

567
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: of both not artificial but more organic. Also equated to

568
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: school too, like I love for the teachers to hand

569
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: out the hundreds for good effort. I mean like it's

570
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: the same if you look at in the like the

571
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: same perspective. It's like, you gotta you gotta earn your

572
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: grades in school. And it's the same thing as I

573
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: think in sports, as you gotta earn your way to

574
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: to to winning and accomplishing you know, a scholarship or

575
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: an award or certificate, like that's all that's all part

576
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: of it. Now with the same thing with winning and

577
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: losing in you know, because I feel like it's it's

578
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: okay regardless of the kid's age, to to understand loss

579
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: because that's part of life. Right. If if everyone just

580
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 1: feels like we didn't keep score, then why are they

581
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: doing it? Right? It's like it's like age appropriate loss.

582
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: And then again that gets back to like how involved

583
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: emotionally are you in the game. So if you're flipping

584
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: out about the laws and you have a six year old,

585
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: that might not be commensurate, right, So you let them

586
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: feel the loss, But then it's also okay, you have

587
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: a hundred more games to play within the next couple

588
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: of years. You know, you know you can move on

589
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: from that loss. You know they're not playing the World

590
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: Cup at that moment. So I think it's like just

591
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: the age appropriate losses that you notice as a parent

592
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: that you know that that's commensurate with their level of understanding,

593
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: but they need it to learn. As I saying, like

594
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: the coaching, but my philosophy and coaches coaching, as you

595
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: you train for fun, then you train to learn, then

596
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: you train to compete, and then you train to win

597
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: and the winning comes is the last piece because you

598
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: want to start training to win when you're you know,

599
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: in the fourteen age group. So if you don't ever develop,

600
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: the winning is going to be hard as you get older.

601
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: If you go just for winning as a young youth

602
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: athlete at eight, they're not gonna experience the development stage.

603
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: And I would say, like winning is a byproductor that

604
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: developed thing, right, So like it's a process and get there,

605
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: And that's something that we tried to instill throughout this book.

606
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: Is like, you know, when you try to develop, sometimes

607
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to win, but you actually win

608
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: because you're learning something throughout the game. You know. For example,

609
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: the other day and my girls played a younger team,

610
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: so I was working on low pressure and we tied,

611
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: and every everyone's like, who you tied? You know, a

612
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: team that was younger than you and maybe not is

613
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: at a sting level, Like yeah, but we actually did win.

614
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: And the fact that we won and the fact that

615
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: I taught them something, they digested it and then we

616
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: need to use it or implement it in a game setting.

617
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: And you know they'll be able to do that in

618
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: adjust and a depth so that you know That's why

619
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: I think it's important to align stuff with the right

620
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: coaching staff to make sure that your child has developed

621
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: in the growing what's your biggest thing, I make up

622
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: that the age of girls that you're coaching. That's probably

623
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: again in my my personal opinion, is probably the age

624
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: where you know you can get on them a little bit, right,

625
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: So what's what's the thing for you as a coach

626
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: that you'll get on your girls? Bet that will really

627
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: like disappoint you, bother you that you'll have no issue

628
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: being like, look, I'm piste off. Oh the count that

629
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: accountability piece is huge. The eye rolling, you know, when

630
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: you get the teenage years where like you tell them

631
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: something and it's you know, no matter who you are

632
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: and what coaches you know, where have I've been, the

633
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: eye rolling is a no doubt. It's like you pulled

634
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: immediately off the field and you've got to cool down.

635
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: But you know, just as simple as like showing up

636
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: late for practice, you know, and using excuse my parents

637
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: didn't wake me up, for my parents didn't get me

638
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: there in time. It's like no, no, no, Like you're

639
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: responsible of your own actions, and that's huge as you

640
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: get older, you know, all the emotion that you've show

641
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: in a game, like you're responsible for that. So those

642
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: those little moments are definitely moments that I make sure

643
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: that there is a lesson at that at that time.

644
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: And I'm a very about immediate lessons. So if it happens,

645
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: the players removed right away and then we have a

646
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: discussion and then we implement it back, um, you know,

647
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: through training, and they have to earn the way back

648
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 1: on the field. But yeah, and every every week they

649
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: have to earn. It doesn't matter how well they played

650
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: in the last game, Like, you still gotta show to

651
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: be consistent every day. And that's the accountable the piece

652
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: kids need to learn because they're so used to parents

653
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: doing everything for them. The same thing is if they're

654
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: late for practice, just text me goes a long way,

655
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: you know, versus showing up late and like the shoulders

656
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: going down and like the head coming into the like sorry, coach,

657
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: Like you could easily solve that because I plan my

658
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: practices on the numbers that are going to show up,

659
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 1: and then you disrupt my practice by being late and

660
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: not showing up and then having to stay hello to

661
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: everybody when you get there. You're an interruption, So like

662
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: just let me know so that you can you know,

663
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: I could tell that the team that you're on your

664
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: way and that you're just gonna jump in and warm

665
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: up on your own, but just holding the accountable for

666
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: their actions. Dr Christine, I'm gonna start with you on

667
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: this next question. It's you know, when kids are are

668
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: young and like our daughter, Okay, she is competitive as

669
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: competitive as jan and I and if she doesn't win,

670
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: she's pissed, I mean crying like I didn't win. So

671
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: we're trying to like teach her to let her brother

672
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: win sometimes or you know, other people are gonna win

673
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: and when someone else wins, you just say good job, right,

674
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: So she's starting to come around on it. But Jane

675
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: and I are were kind of torn at times because

676
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: we're like do we want to like bring her off

677
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: of that competitiveness and like humble her, or do we

678
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: want to and you know, encourage it or it's like

679
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: that kind of like where's like the neuroscience behind that

680
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: kind of how we can handle it the best. So

681
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: I would say to that that you want to let

682
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: her have her or ocean let her emote now obviously

683
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: if you see it going in a you know, a

684
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: full out tantrum or something. You want to model the

685
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: right behavior, but respecting her emotion about it. Obviously, some

686
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: kids are gonna be more upset about a loss than others,

687
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: so you so you let her do that so she

688
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: can handle her emotions and then you're gonna teach her

689
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: ways to calm it down. So yes, I have that reaction,

690
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm excited about this, I'm upset about this, and then

691
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna model for her how we calm ourselves down

692
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: and we move on and then we can talk about it.

693
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: So I'm like Cherson, We've we've talked about this several times.

694
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: We we would not squash that or try to change it,

695
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: because that's that's who they are, you know, So letting

696
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: her do that and feel safe in expressing herself organically,

697
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: you know, just her natural self. This is how she feels.

698
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: But then you and your wife are her role models

699
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: for and this is how I calm myself down, because

700
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 1: you're also teaching her emotional control. Because there's things called

701
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: mirror neurons where when someone is upset, then our brain

702
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: re acts and then we start mirroring them. And she's four,

703
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: so it's probably not happening yet, but when they're sixteen,

704
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy, so that everybody's yelling, so you want

705
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: to be aware of that, like how am I miling?

706
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: Like yeah, that was upsetting. And then so teaching you

707
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: know those ways like maybe you need to take a walk,

708
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: maybe you need to take a break from thinking about it,

709
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: maybe you need to journal it, or you're not doing

710
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: that at before. But um, but the way you react

711
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: to it, and you're teaching her how to self soothed

712
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: after she's really upset, that's that's what. Yeah, it says

713
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: from a coaching aspect, it's the hardest thing to pull

714
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: from kids. So I wouldn't want to take it away

715
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: from her. At four she's competitive, Let her be competitive.

716
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: But when I say to those athletes is like how

717
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: you feel when you lose is how most people feel

718
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: every day if you were competitive and you're beating them.

719
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: So you gotta respect like their emotions, So try to

720
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: like hold back and not get so excited. Maybe when

721
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: you're constantly, you know, beating your brother, you know, and

722
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: you don't want to necessarily let him win, but understand

723
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: and like how he feels when he loses and he's

724
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: not very happy and upset, and just you know, you

725
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: don't want to pull too much on that competitive edge

726
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: that she has, but just making her aware of other

727
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: people's feelings, and then when she feels that loss, that's

728
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: the time. That's the teaching moment right there, Like she

729
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: at your one year old saying in your face, that's

730
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: happening to teach. Different take take that. I don't care

731
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: if you're one. I still wants like the locker room

732
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: celebratings in her bedroom. Yeah exactly, Yeah, go upstairs and

733
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: celebrate the game. I love it. And I could talk

734
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: to you ladies all day because I just love talking

735
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: about this whole stuff. And my thing is, like I

736
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: feel like you probably got this question a lot, Christie.

737
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: What do you want to coach? Do you want to coach?

738
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: And obviously you're coaching now, and people ask me that,

739
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but I would never coach anything past

740
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: high school, so eventually I want to. I want to

741
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: start coaching my kids. I want to coach high school.

742
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm scared of parents today because I'm just old fashioned,

743
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: and so I'm you know, I'm kind of anxious for

744
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: those days because I don't know if I'll be able

745
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: to handle it as politically correct as you know, people

746
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: expect you to so for you personally, how have you

747
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: kind of dealt with that as an obstacle as a

748
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: coach with parents today. Yeah, just honestly, it's having those

749
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: that open communication on your your outcome goal for your

750
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: team and like the process that your your thoughts in

751
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: the process that you're gonna try to instill to get

752
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: them there with the parents early on, you know, whether

753
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: it's a team that's going to be rotating playing time

754
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: and if it's not, you have to make sure that's

755
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: clear to the parents before saying, like you're gonna earn this,

756
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: you know, And some of my teams out that way.

757
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: It's like they have to earn their planning time and

758
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: if they are strong with their playing time, they have

759
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: to come to me. I don't want to hear from you,

760
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: you know, making the older players be accountable and making

761
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: sure that you're clear with the parents on that, like,

762
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear from you. It's their time

763
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: to be responsible, accountable and the younger ones, depending on

764
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: what level that are at. You know, you can still

765
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: earn your playing time at a younger age, but as

766
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: long as the parents know what they're setting themselves up for.

767
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: It's so much easier because if you're honest up front

768
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: right away, it makes the journey so much easier because

769
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: I've made mistakes where I haven't really addressed the group

770
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: as a whole of like what my plan was. And

771
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: it's hard because when you're trying to develop and put

772
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: a lot of skill set into the technique behind the game,

773
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: losses do come and when parents just want to win,

774
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't align with them. So we kind of butt

775
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: heads and it's just like it's okay, you're you know,

776
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: move your child onto a different team then because it

777
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: doesn't align with what I wanted to teach because I

778
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: want them to be able to understand the game as

779
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: well and be able to play. Dr Christine, as a

780
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: former crazy parent, how what what would help you like

781
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: as the parent? Just so when I am the parent

782
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: of you know, of of of my kids and they

783
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: have coaches and everything, what would help you as the parent?

784
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: Is it Christie's approach? Like what has helped you? So?

785
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: One of one of my son's coaches when he was

786
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: in high school, actually, uh at a breakfast with the parents,

787
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: he said, if I hope I quote him correctly. He said,

788
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: you know, there's three roles. I'm the coach, there's the players,

789
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: and there's the parents. And we have our team, we

790
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: have our eight team players, and I'm the coach. So

791
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: there's only one more role left and that's yours, and

792
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: that's a supportive role. And he made it very clear

793
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: from the beginning, Um, you're here to support. Do not

794
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: come to me with questions about playing time. If that's

795
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: a you know, a question you have, that's for your

796
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: son to address with me. And then he made the

797
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: channel of communication clear. So you have a concern, start

798
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: with the assistant coach. You can email me the good

799
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: old twenty four hour rule. Don't communicate with me until

800
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: twenty four hours after a game. So he laid that

801
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: out and then it was just very clear where he stood.

802
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: You know, he was a high school coach, so he

803
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: was able to do that. Um, we propose for travel

804
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: teams creating a mission statement where collectively parents get together

805
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: with the coach coach lays out this is this isn't deal,

806
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: this is the team. And you can also address issues

807
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: like are we the team that yells on the sidelines?

808
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: Are we the team that yells at the refs because

809
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: I've I've myself gotten upset at games because I have

810
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: other parents yelling at reps, and I think it makes

811
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: the game unsafe because now if you're if you've upset

812
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: a ref, now the refs aren't making the same calls.

813
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: Now they're emotional, and then it can be unsafe for

814
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: the kids. So when you when you can all get

815
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: on the same page, because we do so much prep

816
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: like training, you know, all this money into getting ready

817
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: for a season, but then rarely do we get together

818
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: and communicate like what does this look like? Like we're

819
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: all stakeholders in it, and we can't pretend that parents

820
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: aren't a big part of it because parents do so

821
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: much to make all of that happen. So I think

822
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: it's a matter of the coaches setting up like these

823
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: are my boundaries, these are my guidelines, and then let's

824
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: talk about what this team looks like, like are we

825
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: equal playing time team or we earn your playing time team?

826
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: And you know, just addressing those issues because when it's

827
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: when it's out there, I think ahead of the time,

828
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: you really clear this up, you know, And I think

829
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: it it comes parents to to to know because they're

830
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: not wondering. You know, that's brilliant. I hope everyone really

831
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: listens back to that, because that's that's fantastic. And again,

832
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: that's something I'm gonna make a mental note of as

833
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: a parent, as a coach, and even if I have

834
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: to be the one as a parent to kind of

835
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: set that up. I mean, that's definitely something if everyone's

836
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: on the same page, and like you said, everyone's a

837
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: stake older that's never heard it describe that way and

838
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: articulate that way. So thank you for that. That was amazing.

839
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: And before I let you guys go, what's one thing

840
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: each that you really hope the readers of this book

841
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: kind of take from it? I think the overall one

842
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: of the overall messages is just being comfortable with that uncomfortable,

843
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: you know, because sports put you in those environments where

844
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: you do feel uncomfortable, and just be aware of your

845
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: motions and your intentions, you know, And and there's so

846
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: much more to sports than just winning. Yes, we all

847
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: want to win, but there's so much more that we

848
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: get out of it. For me, I'd say, like, enjoy

849
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: the journey, enjoy the process, trust the process, Trust the process.

850
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean That's that's what it is. It's a journey,

851
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: and I think there's so many pressures and and it's

852
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, childhood is quick, it's speedy. You can get

853
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: swept up. So I mean that's why we name the

854
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: book be all In as a reminder to be present there,

855
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: you know, to be all in, all spheares, mindful of

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Speaker 1: what's going on and not just kind of like swept up.

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Speaker 1: Because as I have a child right now in college

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Speaker 1: for the first year, everybody says that it's so cliche,

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Speaker 1: goes so fast, but sure, it really does go so fast.

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Speaker 1: So to enjoy all those moments and instead of looking

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Speaker 1: ahead all the time, so like what's next, what's next,

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Speaker 1: and just being president at that boring teaball game. Thank

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Speaker 1: you Christie and Dr Christine so much. This was an

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Speaker 1: awesome interview. I really appreciate and enjoy talking to y'all.

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Speaker 1: Where can our listeners find this book and purchase it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: right now, it's on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Target, Walmart,

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Speaker 1: and we have a website called be all In book

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Speaker 1: dot Com that will start to update after people start

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Speaker 1: reading the books to keep it current and the current

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Speaker 1: times of sports. I think when I whenever I do

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Speaker 1: become a coach, I'm going to hand one of these

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Speaker 1: out to each parent and be like, hey, this is

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Speaker 1: this is my mission statement. Here you go homework. Take

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Speaker 1: this home and read it and then come talk to me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Christie and Dr Christine so much for coming on.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Thank you Michael for having us.

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Speaker 1: Of course, thank you. Nice to meet you. Well. I

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Speaker 1: hope all of you enjoyed that. UM. I wish Jana

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Speaker 1: would have been able to to stay with us and

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Speaker 1: be a part of that. UM. But I just really

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Speaker 1: think you guys have heard me on here before talk

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Speaker 1: about how passionately I am about you know, kids and

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Speaker 1: their influence in sports and kind of the mentality behind

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Speaker 1: all of that. So I'm definitely gonna get the this

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Speaker 1: book and read it again. It's called Be All In

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Speaker 1: by Christie Rampone and Dr Christine Keane. Go go get it,

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Speaker 1: take a list, and educate yourself before you become that

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Speaker 1: crazy parent on the sideline, because we gotta remember it's

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Speaker 1: about our kids, you know. So this was this was

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Speaker 1: a really cool experience to talk to them. So Jenna

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Speaker 1: will be back next week and uh, we'll keep on

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Speaker 1: winding down later guys,