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Speaker 1: If you're your host Michael Buffis and.

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Speaker 3: Paul Moyer, it's Thursday, so you know what it is.

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Speaker 3: I got my guy back, I got my guy bag.

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Speaker 4: The people have been waiting for you. I walked up

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Speaker 4: and they're like, where's Paul. Where's Paul? I go relax.

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Speaker 4: He took a week off, a couple weeks off, but

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Speaker 4: now he's bag sharper than ever.

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Speaker 5: How you doing, man, I'm doing I'm doing better, feeling good,

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Speaker 5: So no excuses. I feel good about the Seahawks, even though, yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's kind of weird it just happened three days ago

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Speaker 5: because it was a Monday night game. But yeah, I

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Speaker 5: thought it's weird that listen to people and social media,

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Speaker 5: that we'll lose a game and nobody's out of about it.

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Speaker 4: No, there's a reason why right, Obviously, you guys know

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Speaker 4: the Seahawks lost forty two to twenty nine. But when

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Speaker 4: you look at the film you break things down. Look

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Speaker 4: more total yards five hundred and sixteen to three hundred

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Speaker 4: something out rush these guys. You got the number one

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Speaker 4: passing offense in the league right now. Gino's playing out

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Speaker 4: of his mind. Ken Walker had three touchdowns. You just

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Speaker 4: weren't able to stop Jerikoff eighteen for eighteen. Goodness grace

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Speaker 4: with Jeragoff and he caught a touchdown. Sometimes you just

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Speaker 4: get got and I think that's what happened. A couple

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Speaker 4: stops and you guys all know there are some penalties

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Speaker 4: NFL the way that I would like to be, I

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Speaker 4: sent a letter in real quick to Goodell. But like, listen,

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Speaker 4: these referees are suspect, but you never leave it up

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Speaker 4: to the referees. End of the day, Moyer, it was

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Speaker 4: closer than the score says, and we walked away with

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Speaker 4: some positives but also some things to work on.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Look, first of all, that's a really good team. I

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Speaker 5: mean they were better than advertised too. Knew going into

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Speaker 5: it they were good. You know, real quick. Defensively, I

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Speaker 5: thought they were physical. I thought, you know, we had

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Speaker 5: to work really hard, give the way they bull rushed,

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Speaker 5: the way they really claps the pocket.

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Speaker 6: But it also made me go, oh my god, Gino Smith.

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Speaker 5: Anybody thinks he's not a top five quarterback in this league,

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Speaker 5: I go, let's go debate it right now.

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Speaker 6: He is a top five quarterback.

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Speaker 5: In fact, put Pator Mahomes off to the side and

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Speaker 5: let's start all the other guys out there. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: you know, you got the Josh Allens of the world.

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Speaker 5: You got you know, CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: If I would take anybody else over Gina because what

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Speaker 5: he does inside the pocket, he's a man. I mean,

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Speaker 5: he makes big boy throws, contested throws, quick decisions, knows

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Speaker 5: when he feels the heat when to dump the ball.

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Speaker 5: He was brilliant in that game and kept us in it.

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Speaker 5: To me, you know, as weird as the game was,

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Speaker 5: and Goth didn't beat us, I know it was eighteen

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Speaker 6: The seventy yard play.

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Speaker 5: That was a really nice DETI play give them credit

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Speaker 5: for that, but you know, it's about a fourteen yard throw.

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Speaker 5: You know, the forty yard play was about a two

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Speaker 6: He's not the one who beat us.

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Speaker 5: It really did come down to and I'm not blaming

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Speaker 5: the rest, but some critical you know, penalties are kind

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Speaker 5: And you know, the passing aferance that didn't happen on

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Speaker 6: That was huge.

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Speaker 5: And then the passing of fans or pickplay that they

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Speaker 6: You can't make that call.

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Speaker 5: But the weird one no one's really talking about either

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Speaker 5: turnover battle. Those are really it and Detroit couldn't have

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Speaker 4: Thirty eight first downs, franchise record DK back to back

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Speaker 4: completions and attempts. I mean, this offense is getting better

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Speaker 4: were missing some pieces. So the same way people were

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Speaker 4: talking about the Seahawks when they're like, oh they're three

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Speaker 4: and oh they haven't played anybody, Okay, I understand no Tua,

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Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett, Bo Nicks. I also look at the Detroit

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Speaker 4: got you, but you didn't get our best shot either

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Speaker 4: because guys were missing. Bibra Murphy, Leonard Williams, you got

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Speaker 4: Baker Jay Love go out. No excuses, just reality of

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Speaker 4: the NFL. Every week teams are going to be without

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Speaker 4: their guys. It just so happened that the Seahawks had

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Speaker 4: four or five guys that they really depend on defense

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Speaker 4: that weren't there and couldn't contribute to this team. But

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Speaker 4: there are some positives that you can take away from this,

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Speaker 4: with this offense you talked about Gino, but I want

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Speaker 4: to talk about just grubbing the way that he's calling

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Speaker 4: plays like things make sense, they are connected. Gino's getting

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Speaker 4: motion and do all this good stuff, and he's making

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Speaker 4: me the most this year out of all years. He's

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Speaker 4: when you caught it with your body, you're a BCB

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Speaker 4: body catching you fill in the rest of it, okay,

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Speaker 4: And people talked about DK only catching the ball with

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Speaker 3: He's going with hands making big plays.

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Speaker 4: I think Greub wanted to come out and say, look,

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Speaker 4: we're going to run the football. It's been let's pass

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Speaker 5: You could do that. I mean, there's lots of ways

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Speaker 5: I thought was so impressive. While I think fans are

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Speaker 5: Wyman and Bob and they replayed it at six o'clock,

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Speaker 5: so locally, you're hearing some of the stuff I just said,

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Speaker 5: was just our fight.

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Speaker 5: At halftime they interviewed McDonald, and McDonald kind of said, look,

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Speaker 5: to do. We're okay. He was very calm about it.

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Speaker 5: And then they came out and executed that in the

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Speaker 5: I thought that was great. And I just think the fight,

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Speaker 5: I mean, we just we were in that game when

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Speaker 5: in the in past seasons, man, we wouldn't have been

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Speaker 5: I think that that was one. Two is you're right, man,

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Speaker 5: going up against Detroit. That is it's the best offensive

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Speaker 5: but I've seen some of their games already.

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Speaker 6: They struggle at right tackle.

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Speaker 5: No weaknesses on Detroit, that is, they had four first

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Speaker 5: running backs. A quarterback who won at one time was

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Speaker 5: one year. But he's a really smart quarterback who knows

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Speaker 5: how to dish that that football this game. The reason

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Speaker 5: why I don't think I was upset is we just

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Speaker 5: run our scheme man against these guys, they're so good.

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Speaker 5: We didn't have that. That's not that Read and Hankins

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Speaker 5: And then we got back up outside linebackers and linebackers.

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Speaker 5: This is a really hard game to do that because

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Speaker 5: and McDonald's talked about this before, the way we run

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Speaker 5: our defense, you often will have two gaps and it's

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Speaker 5: but there's a fine line. I'm gonna fit really quick.

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Speaker 4: I feel that that's why I appreciate that game for

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Speaker 4: what it was. You lose forty two to twenty nine,

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Speaker 4: but you learn so much about your team at the

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Speaker 4: same time, and it provides Mike McDonald a chance to adjust.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he's made adjustments throughout the first three weeks,

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Speaker 4: but there's nothing like making adjustments after a loss. And

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Speaker 4: I think that's important for a coach in their careers. Okay,

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Speaker 4: how do you respond? What's your message? How do you

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Speaker 4: tweak things? When you don't have the hogs in there?

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Speaker 4: Right the number ones out there? The game plan should

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Speaker 4: change a little bit, and I think we saw a

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Speaker 4: little bit of that in the second half. But that's

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Speaker 4: what makes me eager for this game, Like, Okay, you're

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Speaker 4: probably not gonna have all your guys out there.

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Speaker 3: Who knows if.

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Speaker 4: Murphy's gonna be out there, Baker, Leonard, Jay.

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Speaker 3: Love, You're going to have to adjust.

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Speaker 4: kN Walker, there's I mean, you guys saw the play

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Speaker 5: It's like an MMA deal. You know it was a reverse.

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Speaker 5: I need Bob Stelton here, what is that when they

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Speaker 6: Up flipping him on the ground instead. So brilliant. He's

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Speaker 3: All right, you heard it from Moyer. He's going to

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Speaker 4: Right. We're just gonna start a here on Hawks Live.

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Speaker 4: When we come back, we'll give you an opponent preview.

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Speaker 4: That is next Michael Bumbas Paul Moyer Hawk's.

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue

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Speaker 3: This is Hawks Live.

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Speaker 4: Michael Bumpus, Well, my guy, Paul Moyer, every Thursday right here,

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Speaker 4: Bellvy Square Center Court. It's right center Court. It's a

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Speaker 4: good place to be. It's our third year here, our

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Speaker 4: third year, right.

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Speaker 6: It's our third year. We love it here.

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Speaker 5: It's been our favorite by far. They treat us really well.

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Speaker 5: It gets fun. It's the holidays start kicking in, and

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Speaker 5: you know, it kind of starts with you know, it's

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Speaker 6: This play starts packing up.

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Speaker 5: But we got our regulars, man, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you, yes.

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Speaker 4: Sir, all right, it's time to talk about these New

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Speaker 4: York football giants. I'll let you know who they are

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Speaker 4: by the numbers so far, all right, when we talk

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Speaker 4: about offense, they're ranked twenty first overall, averaging two hundred

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Speaker 4: In the past game, they're fifteenth overall, two into the

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Speaker 4: they are twenty ninth fifteen points per game. Your Seahawks

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Speaker 4: the New York Football Giants twelfth overall. They are the

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Speaker 4: Eighth overall, fourteenth against the run, seventh against the pass,

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Speaker 4: at the New York Giants, Paul. People are gonna look

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Speaker 5: Well, I think you said there for you're not gonna

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Speaker 5: Anybody can beat anybody. This will be a tough game

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Speaker 6: Same thing. They hustle. It's a game we should win.

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Speaker 6: He did.

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Speaker 4: The quarterback, right, you start there when you talk about

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Speaker 4: Paul I couldn't believe that. I thought it was like

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Speaker 4: He rush for seven hundred eight yards and seven touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: That's what got him on everyone's radar. Right, that's what

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Speaker 5: They held Browns fifteen points. A lot of people do.

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Speaker 6: We gotta gang tackle everything.

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Speaker 5: You know, everybody's got to get to the It's not

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Speaker 4: I think as his defense matures, as everyone settles into

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately it came in.

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Speaker 4: maybe that game will travel Moyer.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I think it can.

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Speaker 5: But when you miss six starters, which we basically were

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Speaker 5: out last week on defense, six starters, I mean you're

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Speaker 5: getting it into your depth.

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Speaker 6: Depth.

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Speaker 5: It's just hard to play on the road against the

443
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Speaker 5: best teams in the league and ask them to go

444
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Speaker 5: win that. That's just it was tough. It was doable.

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Speaker 5: We could have got it done, but we didn't.

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Speaker 3: Yep, gotcha all right?

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Speaker 4: When we come back, we will chat with Seahawks or

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Speaker 4: a Seahawk Derek Young on the phone.

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Speaker 3: That is next right here on Hawks Live.

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue

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Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air on

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Speaker 1: Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Hawk's Live presented by the Dining District

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Speaker 4: at the Bellevue Collection. We're sitting here in front of

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Speaker 4: a thousand people. Man, it's live out here right now.

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Speaker 4: And now we're joined by wide receiver Derek Young.

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Speaker 6: Dereek.

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Speaker 3: What's up man? Hey? Are you doing? We're good man.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for taking time out of your Thursday and hollering

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Speaker 4: at us. Man, it's uh, it's crazy. It's year three

461
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Speaker 4: for you minute. It happens so quickly. What have you

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Speaker 4: learned about yourself in the game and during that journey?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tom has been has been going by fast. I've

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Speaker 2: learned a few things about myself. I've learned that, uh,

466
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Speaker 2: that I could endure anything. You know, I'm up until

467
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Speaker 2: last year, I never had to have like surgery or

468
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Speaker 2: anything whenever I got hurt. And I had surgery last year,

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Speaker 2: so you know, I was at rock bottom, you know,

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Speaker 2: in the beginning of my rehab process. But just being

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Speaker 2: able to overcome the obstacles and come back an even

472
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Speaker 2: better player. In my opinion, I learned a lot about

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Speaker 2: myself during that time.

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Speaker 5: Were you you know, I obviously Pete was there. They

475
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Speaker 5: draft you from leonor or Ryan, you know, smaller school.

476
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Speaker 5: You came, you prove yourself. I mean, you're a phenomenal athlete.

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Speaker 5: Were you nervous going into this or compared to maybe

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Speaker 5: even a year ago with a whole new coaching staff.

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 2: No, I had three. I was a part of three

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Speaker 2: different coaching stuff, you know, in college during my five

482
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Speaker 2: years five years there, so I'm used to, you know,

483
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Speaker 2: meeting a whole new coaching staff, you know, a new

484
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Speaker 2: position coach and just going through that. I know that

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Speaker 2: first impression is everything. So I wanted to coming into

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Speaker 2: my third year, I wanted to set a good, you know,

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Speaker 2: example of the kind of player I was, the person

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Speaker 2: I was with this coaching stuff, and I feel like

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Speaker 2: that's what I did.

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Speaker 4: Man, When you look at this offense, man, you mentioned

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Speaker 4: that you're used to having new coaches, new coordinators. What

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Speaker 4: does this offense? What does it look like? What is

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Speaker 4: this offense look like compared to last year's offense.

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Speaker 2: I feel like compared to last year's offense, it has

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Speaker 2: similar concepts, just different verbage. I feel like we use

496
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Speaker 2: a lot more tempo with this offense, but it's it's

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Speaker 2: pretty similar, just different verbage, but uh in different tempos.

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Speaker 2: But it's definitely like this offense better though, for sure.

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Speaker 6: Well it looks like, look, every week you guys have

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Speaker 6: gotten better.

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Speaker 5: I mean watching the offensive line just feels like they're

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Speaker 5: getting closer and closer in sync to it.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: Just staying on the running game, are there any differences

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Speaker 5: in the running game for some reason? It looks different

506
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Speaker 5: this year, just the way the offensive line is working together,

507
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Speaker 5: work to get to the second level, the way we

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Speaker 5: bring in tight ends at times in the running game,

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Speaker 5: particularly a lot of the receivers as well. Is there

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Speaker 5: anything you know that I'm seeing there as I'm just

511
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Speaker 5: my imagination.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just our mansa as an as an offense.

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Speaker 2: You know, we have explosive guys in that running back room,

514
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Speaker 2: and we know there's just one block away from you know,

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Speaker 2: getting an explosive run. So you know, whenever a run

516
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Speaker 2: it's called, we want to put our best foot forward

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Speaker 2: and you know, get those guys free.

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Speaker 4: What's it like during the season you're in week are

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Speaker 4: going into week five? The preparation because obviously during training

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Speaker 4: camp it's a bit more physical.

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Speaker 3: You got the pads on a bit more.

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Speaker 4: What's it like during this time of the year you

523
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Speaker 4: guys to throw the pads on. It's a bit more

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Speaker 4: walk through, talk me through it.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely not as intense as training camp. You know,

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Speaker 2: we have about one padd of practice a week, you know,

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Speaker 2: to get our run fits and you know, get a

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Speaker 2: little banging going. But it's it's it's just really more

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Speaker 2: mental than it is during training camp. You know, getting

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Speaker 2: those mental reps. Not a lot of reps being passed out,

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Speaker 2: so you know, mainly the starters are getting the reps.

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Speaker 2: So the guys that are not stars, mental reps are

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Speaker 2: really big.

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Speaker 5: Well, you guys, three games in eleven days. I know,

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Speaker 5: fans and media we talk about that a lot. How

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Speaker 5: does coach McDonald talk to you guys about that because

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Speaker 5: obviously short week this week and then you got to

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Speaker 5: turn right back around next week and play on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Just we really really not really focused on the Thursday

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Speaker 2: night game right now. You know, Coach McDonald, he does

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Speaker 2: a good job of just telling us to take it

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Speaker 2: one week at a time, one game at a time,

543
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Speaker 2: and you know, when we get there, we'll get there.

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Speaker 2: But right now we're focused on the Giants. You know,

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Speaker 2: we're coming off in the l so we're trying to

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Speaker 2: get back in the win column, and I feel like

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Speaker 2: that's what we'll do this week.

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Speaker 4: Rick, you have receptions in your career, but you've been

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Speaker 4: really felt on special teams.

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Speaker 3: Man. I was a receiver myself.

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Speaker 4: I remember getting to the league and the mask me

552
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Speaker 4: to run down and tackle a dude. I go, I

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Speaker 4: ain't done that since high school. Man, It's a different game.

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Speaker 4: How was your game evolved in that department?

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Speaker 2: I feel like each year I've evolved my rookie year.

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Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't used to you know, running down there,

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Speaker 2: you know, making plays, but I was pretty good at it,

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Speaker 2: and then I just started to get more confident in

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Speaker 2: it started, you know, whichever player was, you know, on

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Speaker 2: the scout report for us, on the other teams, the

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Speaker 2: opposing teams, special teams, you know, I will talk to

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Speaker 2: them after the game and you know, get some advice

563
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Speaker 2: from those guys because most of those guys are like

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Speaker 2: eight nine, ten year vets in the league just strictly'll

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Speaker 2: playing special teams. So, you know, special teams just something

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Speaker 2: that people could make a living playing and really like

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Speaker 2: take care of their family doing. So It's not something

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Speaker 2: I looked down upon. It's something that I, you know,

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Speaker 2: I like I like doing, and I take pride in

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Speaker 2: being a receiver and being a four course best teams player.

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Speaker 2: You know, most other teams, most.

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Speaker 3: Of other teams.

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Speaker 2: Players who play best teams on all four teams are

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Speaker 2: defensive guys, So I take pride in it.

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Speaker 5: Well, the Seahawks have a pretty good history and reputation

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Speaker 5: for Special Team Pro Bowlers. I mean it goes back

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Speaker 5: into the eighties where the Seahawks had three Special Team

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Speaker 5: Pro Bowlers from there, and then you know it's carried

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Speaker 5: on into the nineties two thousand, so I mean there's

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Speaker 5: something within the organization. But Bump was a former wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: I was a safety, and I'm looking at you. You're

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Speaker 5: six foot two listed at to twenty five. You're tough

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Speaker 5: to watch you. I mean, you can play just about anything.

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Speaker 5: Did you ever think about playing defense, and particularly in

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Speaker 5: the secondary, at any point when you're in college?

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Speaker 2: Uh No, not in college. In high school and you know,

587
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 2: growing up playing Pop Worner where everybody played both sides.

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Speaker 2: I did play cornerback in safety, but making that switch

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Speaker 2: now probably probably not. I feel like now the game

590
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Speaker 2: is at this level, the game is too advanced in

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Speaker 2: the I would probably need like a full off season

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Speaker 2: of doing defensive backward.

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Speaker 6: Hey, and I'm not wrecking. I'm not telling you to

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Speaker 6: do it.

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Speaker 5: I just I watch as an athlete, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I remember you were coming out.

597
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 5: You were, you know, four to four guy with a

598
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Speaker 5: thirty seven thirty eight inch vertical and I'm like this guy,

599
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 5: he could play either side of the ball. But I

600
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Speaker 5: was just more curious if you had ever wanted to

601
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Speaker 5: when you were younger. And you know, a lot of

602
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Speaker 5: times it's just somebody says, nope, you're you're on the

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Speaker 5: offensive side.

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Speaker 6: You're you're an explosive kid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, y'all, I definitely like playing offense better growing up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. We want touchdowns, man.

607
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 4: You know more you're out there just trying to back

608
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 4: the ball out there, We're trying to take that thing.

609
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Speaker 3: To the house. Come on now, Hey, hey Riegman.

610
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Speaker 4: When I when I watch you play, there's like an

611
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Speaker 4: intensity of about you. I mean more, you're pointed out,

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Speaker 4: you know, the physicality six to two, about two twenty five,

613
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Speaker 4: two thirty, But there's an intensity about you out there.

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Speaker 4: Where where does that come from?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Just you know, I can't you know, I can't be

617
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Speaker 2: out there playing softban six five, so definitely got to

618
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Speaker 2: be physical. And special teams is a physical part of

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Speaker 2: the game. You know a lot of those guys are

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Speaker 2: defensive guys, so like linebackers, and nowadays you got to

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Speaker 2: d n too who are running like defensive backs. They

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Speaker 2: put on special teams. So you know, those guys are

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Speaker 2: bigger than me, so I have to, you know, play

624
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Speaker 2: play up to my size and be physical just as

625
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Speaker 2: much as them.

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Speaker 4: Hey side note, way to represent for the receivers out

627
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Speaker 4: there on special teams, man, you know they they try

628
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Speaker 4: to they try to pigeonhole us and just make us returners. Man,

629
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Speaker 4: way to get out there and and make plays for us.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, no problem.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely. You're from Apex, North Carolina. Hopefully your family's out

633
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 5: of harm's way with the hurricane that hit there. A

634
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 5: lot of trees though in North Carolina. How have you

635
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 5: adapted out here to Seattle.

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Speaker 2: I've adapted pretty well. I would say. The main difference

637
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: between here in North Carolina is the humidity. It's not

638
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: really any humidity out here, you know, in Seattle, even

639
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: though it rains a lot, but you know, it's pretty.

640
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: You know, dry heat. You know it always still good outside.

641
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: It's never too hot. But I would say that's the

642
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: main difference.

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Speaker 6: No bugs either.

644
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Speaker 4: Sometimes it depends the time here summertime, we get some

645
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Speaker 4: buzz all. Hey, Derek Man, we appreciate your time. Keep

646
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 4: doing your thing, and it's been fun watching you grow

647
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Speaker 4: and and you have.

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Speaker 3: A good week.

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Speaker 2: Man, Thank you, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: All right.

651
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Speaker 4: That was wide receiver Derek Young joining us here on

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Speaker 4: Hawks Lote. Hey, come join us here at Hawks livee

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Speaker 4: to Cactus and Daniels Broiler. Y'all want that. Daniels Broiler's expensive.

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: Coming up next we'll go around the NFL. That is

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Speaker 4: next right here on Hawks Live.

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Speaker 1: Hawkss Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue

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Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air on

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Speaker 1: Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Hawks Live every Thursday right here on

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Speaker 4: sevent ten ESPN on Michael Pumpas with my guy Paul Moyer. A.

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Speaker 4: Make sure you guys get out to Bellevue Collection Dining District.

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Speaker 3: So many great restaurants to choose from.

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Speaker 4: Today we had our pre show meal at Cactus. I

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Speaker 4: had the brisket burrito. It was fire, it was bomb,

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Speaker 4: it was on point. It was everything I needed to

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Speaker 4: get mine.

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Speaker 5: I'm eating mine after our lovely server hostess Jenna.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, she's great. You guys go see her.

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Speaker 5: She'll treat you, right, I said, surprise me, so I'm

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Speaker 5: not even sure what I'm gonna be eating.

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Speaker 3: Later, surprised, Brenda, What you have? Brenda? What you have?

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Speaker 4: At Cactus? She had the same thing I had, So

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Speaker 4: there you go. I was hoping she hit me with

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Speaker 4: something different. But it's okay, all right. Matt had a

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Speaker 4: Chimmy chunga And Matt is the most like. He critiques everything,

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Speaker 4: so if he likes it, you know it's all good.

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Speaker 4: So make sure you guys go to Cactus and get

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Speaker 4: it all done. All right, we're actually switching some things up.

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Speaker 4: We're waiting on Farrell Brown to join us. He's our

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Speaker 4: guest for the night. A tight end for the Seahawks

685
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Speaker 4: played for the Patriots. Had one of the longest receptions

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Speaker 4: for a tight end last year. Yesterday, excuse me, Monday,

687
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Speaker 4: got in, made a crucial block, had a reception. So

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to talk to frol Broun. I've spoken to

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Speaker 4: him during training camp. My man is full of personality,

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Speaker 4: so that should be a good one for us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking forward to I mean, he got a lot,

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Speaker 5: a lot of playing time last week, and yeah, they're

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Speaker 5: using the tight ends a lot. I mean one thing

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Speaker 5: about this offense, I mean the running backs. We even

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Speaker 5: talked about that they use running backs a lot in

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Speaker 5: the past.

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Speaker 6: From game now.

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Speaker 5: You know again it's they're gonna They're gonna take what

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Speaker 5: the defense gives him.

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Speaker 6: But I went to talk with him.

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Speaker 5: Because he ended up going to Oregon, and you know,

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Speaker 5: he's from Ohio and he originally had said he was

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Speaker 5: gonna go to Michigan.

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, how in the world. I kind of

705
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Speaker 6: get how because of the.

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Speaker 5: Whole Nike connection and how they buy them and bring

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Speaker 5: him over to Oregon and all that stuff. I'm teasing,

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Speaker 5: but you know, a guy goes from from Ohio to Eugene, Oregon.

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Speaker 5: I've been to Eugene. I used to have clients or

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Speaker 5: so I used to go there. You know, once a

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Speaker 5: month or so. I am not going because of Eugene

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Speaker 5: Organ not doing it.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna ask him. He's a he's a bigger man

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Speaker 6: than I am.

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Speaker 5: He's about six foot seven, six foot eight, and he's

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Speaker 5: got his nice neon Lime Oregon outfit on.

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Speaker 6: So he'll be ready here in a second up.

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Speaker 4: Tight Ends are a crucial part of football, the most

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Speaker 4: changing position football, I would say.

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Speaker 3: I would say tight.

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Speaker 4: Ends and linebackers are the positions that are changing the most.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: Tight Ends are asked to do a bit more these

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Speaker 4: days in the past game, and then these linebackers are

725
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Speaker 4: asked to do a bit more as far as coverage

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Speaker 4: and all that good stuff. So uh, it's only right

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Speaker 4: that we we talked to a tight end and Farawell Brown.

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Speaker 4: You guys clap it up one time for a Seahawks

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Speaker 4: tight end.

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Speaker 3: Farrell Brown.

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Speaker 6: Oh, good to see you man, Thanks for coming out.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you.

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Speaker 6: Appreciate you, man.

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Speaker 5: We always appreciate you guys coming out on a Thursday,

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Speaker 5: especially short week. Oh yeah, I see you brought one

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Speaker 5: of your children with you.

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Speaker 3: I got a couple.

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Speaker 6: Oh there you go.

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Speaker 5: Okay, now they're all all together. But are you bringing

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Speaker 5: some of your organ Nike gear here.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, uh the organ in the Seahawks color. They

742
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Speaker 9: kind of go hand and head they do do they do?

743
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Speaker 9: So I got a lot of stuff that I can

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Speaker 9: pull out the chest.

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Speaker 4: Last time I saw you had pink hare now and

746
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Speaker 4: that was blind. What's the what's the decision making like?

747
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 4: Because I'm bald, I don't have I can't make that decision.

748
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Speaker 9: So what happened was I my gens is bald genetically,

749
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Speaker 9: so I figured I won't have fun before I go bald.

750
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Speaker 9: But one day my kids was trying to figure out

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Speaker 9: why daddy hair was black and they hair they got

752
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Speaker 9: this lovely hair blind hair, so they was trying to

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Speaker 9: figure out what my hair was the same color as there.

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Speaker 9: So I initially bleached it so we can all have

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Speaker 9: the same color. I love it, and then I let

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Speaker 9: the wife play around and that's how I ended up pinking.

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Speaker 5: Well, before you came in here, you were walking and

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Speaker 5: we were kind of chatting with you. So I'll bring

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Speaker 5: this part up. And you've got a bit of your

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Speaker 5: organ connection there in Nike. You're you're from Ohio. I

761
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Speaker 5: know you probably have told the story a million times,

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Speaker 5: but they've never heard it. You initially connect to Michigan

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Speaker 5: and you end up going to Oregon. I used to

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Speaker 5: have clients out in Eugene. I'm like, I am not

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Speaker 5: going to Oregon because of Eugene, Org. You know, there's

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Speaker 5: obviously connection, but help us really understand.

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Speaker 6: What is the draw that ultimately gets you over there. Uh.

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Speaker 9: Back then it was Chip Kelly. I mean with Chip,

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Speaker 9: everything was you know, it was like it was innovative.

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Speaker 9: It was changed, like it was like he was running

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Speaker 9: the office that nobody ever seen. So everything there was

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Speaker 9: like what we was doing there was way before their time,

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Speaker 9: like with the facilities, you know, how we practice, how

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Speaker 9: they played. Everything was just you know, it was like

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00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 9: that new shoe that comes out like you see it indeed,

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Speaker 9: like oh I got to have it, and then two

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Speaker 9: months later is like in the back of your closet somewhere.

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Speaker 9: But uh, I think that was the biggest draw. And

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Speaker 9: then when we came out there, I mean they had Lebron,

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Speaker 9: Kevin Durant, Chris Paul, all the Nike guys was there

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Speaker 9: on our official visit, crab Legs.

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Speaker 4: You know, they laid it all out for you man,

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00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 4: that's awesome. We were just talking about that over our pre

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Speaker 4: show meal. Honestly, how Oregon had all these guys on

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Speaker 4: the sideline like sc had a back back in my day.

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Speaker 4: When you talk about the chip Kelly offense being innovative,

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Speaker 4: have you seen some of that in the NFL. Now

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Speaker 4: you've seen the transition of chip Kelly chip Kelly's offense

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Speaker 4: in the NFL.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean you kind of just see it with

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Speaker 9: like the quarterbacks, you know, a few years ago, like

792
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 9: it was all like drop back quarterbacks, you know what

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Speaker 9: I mean, And then people kind of thought Lamar couldn't

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Speaker 9: play quarterback when he was coming in because how he played.

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Speaker 9: But now you see everything is kind of going towards

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Speaker 9: to you know, if your guy can't move, it's it's

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Speaker 9: going to be hard playing in the league. Like the

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Speaker 9: old drop back guys like peg Manny and all them

799
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Speaker 9: guys are kind of long gone, you know, as far

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Speaker 9: as how the game is playing. So I think that

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Speaker 9: transition in the league has taken over by storm now.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 5: It's amazing is to look at your career and you

804
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 5: had a really tough injury, you know, and shout out

805
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 5: twenty fifteen, But so I'm looking at.

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Speaker 6: Go man you're thirty years old. Now, this is your

807
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 6: eight year. I mean, you've been doing this a long time.

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Speaker 5: It's weird for you to look back and think, and

809
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 5: this is my eighth year now in the NFL.

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Speaker 9: Man, we just signed Jason Peters and he forty two

811
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 9: or you one. So I'm feeling real young right now.

812
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 9: You know, I'm just getting started.

813
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Speaker 3: Peter's made me feel young, yolder me, I've been done.

814
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Speaker 9: I couldn't believe it when I've seen it.

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Speaker 6: It makes me. It makes me feel old.

816
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Speaker 4: What have you learned most about yourself playing in the

817
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 4: league eight years? Because a lot of guys, Man, you

818
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 4: get three years in, a lot of guys are phased out.

819
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Speaker 4: But you've you've found a way to make yourself valuable

820
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 4: every single year. Man, We've you learned about the game

821
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Speaker 4: and yourself.

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Speaker 9: I just learned just how to be resilient, you know,

823
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Speaker 9: with stuff and now gory a way just trusting my process,

824
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 9: saying what I do every year I've been in the league.

825
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Speaker 9: In eight years, I've had a new coach and a

826
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Speaker 9: new coaching staff. So proving yourself and doing all that,

827
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Speaker 9: you know, I'm proving myself to people that don't know

828
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Speaker 9: me every year and starting at the bottom because I

829
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Speaker 9: was undrafted, right, so just to be resilient and just

830
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Speaker 9: really just trust my process and I kind of know

831
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Speaker 9: that it works and it's been proven and proving amongst

832
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Speaker 9: a bunch of different coaching staff. So I just kind

833
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 9: of feel like at this point, you know, God has

834
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Speaker 9: brought me a long way, and like I never get

835
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Speaker 9: discouraged because I know that, you know, He don't bring

836
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Speaker 9: you this far away just to you know, drop you off,

837
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Speaker 9: you know what I mean. So I kind of just

838
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Speaker 9: stay grounded in that, in that in that matter, and

839
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Speaker 9: it's been working out for me.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you've been on a few teams. You've

841
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 5: just mentioned a few coaches, you got, you know, a family.

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Speaker 6: How is that for the family.

843
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure you'd love to bury some roots,

844
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Speaker 5: you know, for four or five years, but what is

845
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 5: that like.

846
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Speaker 9: On from city to Well, I'm excited now. Last year

847
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 9: I was in Boston, I lived in the hotel the

848
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 9: whole year, and our family was in Houston. So to

849
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Speaker 9: have them here it's been great. You know, my kids

850
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 9: are getting older. Just being able to come home and

851
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Speaker 9: see them has been great. Definitely would like to have

852
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Speaker 9: some roots, you know what I mean. Like right now,

853
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 9: my kids aren't in school, so they just having fun

854
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 9: and they like them moving. But you know, as they

855
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 9: getting older and school and everything, you want to kind of,

856
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 9: you know, find a little home base. But honestly, with

857
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 9: this job, that's kind of a lot to ask for

858
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 9: in a sense, you know what I mean, it's.

859
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Speaker 6: Always moving parts.

860
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Speaker 9: You know, you never know where you're gonna be. So

861
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 9: my family has we found a good mechanism to get

862
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 9: through these things, just from all the moving I've had

863
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 9: to do. Where do you guys call home right now?

864
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 9: We call it Houston home and also Mexico. Okay, there

865
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Speaker 9: we go.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: Last time I spoke to you was in the summer

868
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Speaker 4: and we had some good conversation about the family. So

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Speaker 4: it's cool to see your family out here. You mentioned

870
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Speaker 4: taking them the Nickelodeon and doing reels and all that.

871
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Speaker 4: What's the what's the status on that you guys are

872
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Speaker 4: still putting them reals out with the kids or what.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the wife is, uh she's creating all the tiktoks

874
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 9: now and uh I think they just post herself. Uh,

875
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 9: so they're trying to man the TikTok it's like we

876
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 9: feel like the old parents, Like how all parents are

877
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 9: still on Facebook and you kind of get off of Facebook.

878
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 9: You're like, oh yeah, Facebook is too old now I

879
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 9: feel like, you know, I'm more like, I know Instagram,

880
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 9: so like TikTok is like the thing. That's why I said, reals,

881
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 9: I'm old. I'm like Instagram. But like my nephews and nieces,

882
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 9: they like I'll be calling them. How did y'all do that? Like,

883
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 9: let me know how you.

884
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 4: What's your what's your TikTok? Let the people know so

885
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 4: they can follow, and.

886
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 9: Uh, our TikTok is the Brown family. I want to say,

887
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 9: it's the brown fan.

888
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: Brown family wife. He had not be good Brown family. There,

889
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 4: y'all follow on TikTok the Brown family.

890
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 6: That's impressed.

891
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 5: It's not like that's not a common name to be

892
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 5: able to get that.

893
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, that's pretty good family.

894
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 5: Okay, so look for you're on radio. But look you

895
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 5: you've got a presence about it. You're a nice looking man.

896
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 5: I mean you you definitely carry yourself. Well, what what

897
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 5: what is life after football? When at finally ends? You

898
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 5: already have plans for that?

899
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 9: Hopefully drinking peanut Colada somewhere well one of these water

900
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 9: views like here in the beautiful views of Seattle. But uh,

901
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 9: I mean I've always kind of positioned myself, uh for

902
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 9: life after football as far as like what I would do,

903
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 9: you know, I just want to be able to.

904
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 6: Give myself choices.

905
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 9: Uh. I've invested a lot into real estate. Uh, have

906
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 9: some private equity investments. Energy drinks that's kind of blowing

907
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 9: up right now. We actually in all the seven elevens.

908
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 6: Uh, get you.

909
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 9: Some of those are natural. It's called lucky energy. Lucky energy. Yeah, OK,

910
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 9: one down. So I've always just positioned myself in that way.

911
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 9: I went back to school right now. I'm not taking classes.

912
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 9: I took summer classes, but I'm getting my masters in finance.

913
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 6: Good for you.

914
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 9: Just continue learning and like meeting new people, honestly, and.

915
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 6: Just see where that go.

916
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 9: But as far as like exactly what I want to do,

917
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 9: I'd be having I'm having fun doing all the media

918
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 9: stuff and acting. I did some acting when I was

919
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 9: in college, so I want to get some small stuff

920
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 9: back in there. But honestly, just position myself to where

921
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 9: the money that I'm blessed with is making money and

922
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 9: just raising my kids honestly.

923
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 3: That's how you do it.

924
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 4: Like we mentioned several times, you've been in the league

925
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: eight years, but you got to see Aj Barner score

926
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 4: his first first touchdown. What was that like for the

927
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 4: tight end room to see the youngster getting the end zone?

928
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 9: It was good, man. I was in on that play

929
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 9: and I seen it like pop open out the corner

930
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 9: of my eye and I was like, man, this is

931
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 9: wide open. And then we went on the sideline and

932
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 9: seeing it it was. It was a good experience. I

933
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 9: think he threw the ball, but they ended up getting

934
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 9: the ball back. But he had a great game. I

935
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 9: was in there when he jumped out. We was joking

936
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 9: on the sideline about that, like, bro, do not jump

937
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 9: in the air like that? That was all his other

938
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 9: big catcher. It just looked like a big orchard whel

939
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 9: or so just gliding through the air. Being a coach

940
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 9: and everybody was laughing about it. But I'm excited. Man,

941
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 9: he's playing at a high level right now.

942
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 5: You guys just played Monday physical game, you know, Detroit,

943
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 5: more physical than actually they appeared to even going into

944
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 5: that game watching it.

945
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 6: How's your body feeling?

946
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 5: And you got another physical game coming up against the Giants.

947
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 9: Man, my body's feeling good these short weeks is this

948
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 9: is probably the hardest part of the year of any

949
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 9: season when you get that. You know, well, for us,

950
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 9: we all would Seattle, so that travel to Detroit was big.

951
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: Now we're day short.

952
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 9: The Giants got ten days of rest and then we

953
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 9: got another Thursday game. Just looking ahead one week. The

954
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 9: body's feeling the best. Is gonna be guys out there

955
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 9: that when you there, everybody be like, oh, are you

956
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 9: one hundred percent? Like my wife was just asking me,

957
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 9: I think I'm on the injury port. She was like,

958
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 9: how's your knee? I was like, maybe, don't pay attention

959
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 9: to that, none of that stuff. That's you know, I'm

960
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 9: all right. But the only time you feel one hundred

961
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 9: percent is when you come in in spring ball. After

962
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 9: spring you never playing the game at one hundred percent.

963
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,479
Speaker 9: It's it's kind of a fairy tale. In the league,

964
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 9: it's always something nagging. I mean, these guys out here

965
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 9: are huge and physical guys. In every game, no matter

966
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 9: who you're gonna play, it's going to be physical for sure.

967
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what the one thing I don't think people get. Man,

968
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 4: it's a grind out there. Man, especially for guys like

969
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 4: you who playing the box, you know, playing the box outside.

970
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 3: You're asked to do a lot of things.

971
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 4: What's your favorite thing about football and playing the tight

972
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 4: end position?

973
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 9: Uh, probably just the physicality of it, just being imposing

974
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 9: your will on other people, hitting people. It's a it's

975
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 9: just a fun thing. It's like an old Warriors you know.

976
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 9: It reminds me of like that when you watch all

977
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 9: the movies, three hundred movies and just that kind of

978
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 9: seem kind of feel. Uh yeah, that's probably my favorite

979
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 9: part is the physicality.

980
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 6: I played seven years.

981
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 5: My kids were too young when I played, and it's

982
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 5: funny now my son's thirty, he's starting to watch on

983
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 5: my old tapes.

984
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 6: You're pretty good and your kids know what you do?

985
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 9: Uh not really, man, the kind of they had a

986
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 9: old thing they I actually had a THEO passes so

987
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 9: it was on the sideline and like this is supposed

988
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 9: to be a cool thing. You're on the sideline. That

989
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 9: little bit field is freaking crazy. The kids like, well, mom,

990
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 9: I just want to go to my season eat popcorn.

991
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 9: And I'm like, it's kids in the stands that a

992
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 9: freaking relished them over to be on the sideline and

993
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 9: they just they want to watch the cheerleaders and eat popcorn. So, uh,

994
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 9: my other, my youngest son, he it's hard for him

995
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 9: to find me, but if they showed me, they all

996
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 9: see me. He's starting to play football, but I'm still

997
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 9: trying to teach him the rules. If he gets tackled

998
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 9: or he doesn't score, everybody's cheating and he's gonna take

999
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 9: the ball and run and go in the house and

1000
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 9: nobody can play. So I'm still trying to teach him

1001
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 9: the rules because we got to fix that.

1002
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: Well, it's a beautiful thing.

1003
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 9: Man.

1004
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: I'm glad to see you and your family because we

1005
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 4: had a good conversation about the family during the training

1006
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 4: cap Man, and I appreciate you coming out and making time.

1007
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: Man, get up one more time for tight end Farrell Brown.

1008
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 4: All right, we'll be come back. We'll go around the NFL.

1009
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 4: That is next right here.

1010
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: On Hawk's Lot.

1011
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue

1012
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: Collection of at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from

1013
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: seven to nine live on air on Seattle Sports Now.

1014
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 1: If you're your host, Michael Bumpis Paul.

1015
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 4: Moyer, Welcome back, to Hawks Live, presented by the Dining District.

1016
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 4: I'm Michael bumpas with Paul Moyer. We were just joined

1017
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 4: by Farrell Brown.

1018
00:46:59,160 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: Nice even.

1019
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 4: I love it when you see these athletes with their families. Man,

1020
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 4: they become human, right You guys just see them in

1021
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 4: their uniforms and their helmets.

1022
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 3: And you don't make that connection.

1023
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 4: You see them walking around with their family, and then

1024
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 4: they become human.

1025
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: Man.

1026
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: I really love that and appreciate that.

1027
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 4: But it's time for us now to go around the NFL.

1028
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 4: If you didn't know, there's a game going on tonight,

1029
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 4: Thursday night football on Prime really easy to find, right,

1030
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 4: really easy to find.

1031
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: No, it's not.

1032
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 4: But the score right now, Tampa Bay Buccaneers thirty the

1033
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 4: Atlanta Falcons twenty seven. Would about three minutes and thirty

1034
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 4: seconds left in the game. Pretty well, we'll see who

1035
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 4: do I want to I don't care who wins, but

1036
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 4: I picked Atlanta to win. I picked Atlanta to win.

1037
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 5: I think of it more for the Seahawks, right, we

1038
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 5: gotta play Atlanta.

1039
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: You need Atlanta to.

1040
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 4: Win because you don't want the Bucks to be you know, they're.

1041
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: Three to one right now.

1042
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, I want to win the West. You know,

1043
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 5: a year ago, I would have been thinking that maybe

1044
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 5: I want to Land or Lucia. I look at that

1045
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 5: wild card this year, I'm thinking, hey, we got a

1046
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 5: game lead. I think we're a good football team. We

1047
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 5: got to get healthy. I think I prefer Atlanta to

1048
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 5: win too.

1049
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1050
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 6: I don't want anybody running away with great record in

1051
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 6: the NFC.

1052
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 4: Keep it close. Let's talk about the Vikings. Talk about

1053
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 4: running away with it. Vikings are four and oh Sam

1054
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 4: Darnold was thrown away, forgotten and Kevin O'Connell said, you

1055
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: know what, come over here to the Vikings. I'm going

1056
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 4: to draft a quarterback. He tears his meniscus and now

1057
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: he is. He is playing like the best quarterback in

1058
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 4: the game right now.

1059
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 3: I love these stories.

1060
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 4: He's it's like a Geno Smith all over again, but

1061
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 4: this time with the Minnesota Vikings.

1062
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean again, you just don't want to be

1063
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 5: drafted by a New York team.

1064
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: You do not.

1065
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, they just don't play well early

1066
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 5: there at Midwell, where's the pressure. But I remember when

1067
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 5: Sam Donald first came out, I mean they talked about

1068
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 5: his upside was huge, his unbelievable arm. You know he

1069
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 5: couldn't handle New York. There's a lot of guys who

1070
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 5: haven't been able to handle New York. Aaron Rodgers ruggling

1071
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 5: to handle New York right now. But the Vikings are

1072
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 5: loaded with talent. I mean they have a really good defense,

1073
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 5: probably the best wide receiver in the game. It's a

1074
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 5: good story. There's absolutely zero pressure on him. He has

1075
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 5: no competent. There's no one there looking over his shoulder anymore.

1076
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 5: The town loves him. We'll see what happens when they

1077
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 5: finally get some adversity. They're going to London. Right now,

1078
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 5: they're playing the Jets early game on Sundays.

1079
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 6: Waking up.

1080
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 3: Well, of course, yeah you up, Yeah, I might be

1081
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: a best sell.

1082
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 6: Run it sixty I'll run.

1083
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 5: I can't remember sixty something. Yeah, of course I'm up.

1084
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 5: You know, we get up on it.

1085
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: We get up. I feel you, I feel you. Another story.

1086
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the Pittsburgh Steelers and Justin Fields and

1087
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 4: he's winning ball games. It's not pretty, it's not impressive,

1088
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 4: but it's enough to keep Russell on the bench. What

1089
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 4: do you think of that situation over there? They are

1090
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 4: also in the running, supposedly to grab Davonte Adams, but

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00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: I think he's going to the New York Jets.

1092
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, that seems like that would be a good player.

1093
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 5: Are going to go all in. It's probably going to

1094
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 5: kill this team now for years to come. But you know,

1095
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 5: I don't care much. I don't care much about DeVante

1096
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 5: Adams at all. I think the Pittsburgh thing's interesting just

1097
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 5: because we're vested into Russell Wilson in the past, right,

1098
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 5: and you're just kind of curious to see some people say, well,

1099
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 5: he's done. I go, he hasn't done anything to be done.

1100
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 5: He just had a calf injury and they're winning. I mean,

1101
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 5: it happens when you start winning and there's another quarterback

1102
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 5: and there's not you know, not necessarily winning because of him,

1103
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 5: but you're not losing because of him either.

1104
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 6: Man. It's hard to don't see that.

1105
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 5: I don't see Russell getting a shot unless the offense

1106
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 5: really tanks. It's not a good offense and they just

1107
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 5: start losing and they need some type of spark. So

1108
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 5: justin Fields looks actually better than he has over the

1109
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 5: last couple of years. He can still run, He's making

1110
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 5: the the.

1111
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 6: Throws he needs to make.

1112
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 5: Now. I don't think he's ever going to beat you

1113
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 5: with his arm. But he's a guy with his legs

1114
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 5: and shround him. With a good running game at a

1115
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 5: great defense, you can win a lot.

1116
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 3: Of games, all right.

1117
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 4: This one was short and sweet because we had such

1118
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 4: a good conversation with Pharl Brown. We went a little long.

1119
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 4: So when we come back, we'll go inside the film

1120
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 4: where we're gonna break down three plays.

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00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 3: That is next right here on Hawk's Live.

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue

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Speaker 1: Seattle Sports.

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00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 4: This is Hawks Live every Thursday right here at BLV

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00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 4: Square Center Court. On Michael Bamas with Paul Moyer at

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00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 4: his time to break down the film. I don't know

1128
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 4: if you guys know this about Paul Moyer. He loves

1129
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 4: watching film, so do I. But he might love it

1130
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 4: more than me because I will get a text at

1131
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 4: ten thirty.

1132
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 3: My phone goes on silent at nine.

1133
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 4: I'll get a text at ten thirty and Paul is saying,

1134
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 4: bump Man that you see number forty seven for this

1135
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 4: guy man here. That first step is false. I think

1136
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 4: if we attack him this way, we should be good,

1137
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 4: and I look at it and I go I'll.

1138
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 3: Respond in the morning. Moyer is grinding film.

1139
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 4: So it's time for us to do exactly what Paul

1140
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 4: likes to do and look at some film.

1141
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: This first play we're breaking down.

1142
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 4: Gino Smith finds JSN, who laterals to Zach Charbonay for

1143
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 4: the first down on third and sixteen.

1144
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: This is a creative play.

1145
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 7: Trip set right, Charbona out of the backfield, three man rush,

1146
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 7: quick throw coming underneath JSN.

1147
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 8: On a quick throwback side Charbona down the near sidelines,

1148
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 8: first down.

1149
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 3: Wow, pull one out.

1150
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 6: Of the back of the playbook.

1151
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 8: A slant rap of JSN coming in from the right side.

1152
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 3: He makes the catch.

1153
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 8: Charbona is in the left flat, so it's a backwards

1154
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 8: pass that he throws to Charbonay, who takes off up

1155
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 8: the sidelines and picks up nineteen and a first down.

1156
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 4: Wow, what a design, Moawyer, as your buddy Dave Wyman

1157
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 4: would say, Our buddy, this play took some stones to call.

1158
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: You're calling this on third and sixteen.

1159
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 4: You got trips to the right, got DK to the

1160
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 4: left by himself, so you have Jasen as the number

1161
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 4: one receiver that means he's the furthest receiver out inside

1162
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 4: of Jaysn you have looks like Tyler Lockett, and I

1163
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 4: think that's Pharrell Brown the tight end. So Jayson runs

1164
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 4: a little slant. Gino gives him the football. Jayson picks

1165
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 4: up a couple of blocks from Pharol Brown and Tyler Lockett,

1166
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 4: and now you have Zach Charbonay on the other side

1167
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 4: of the field. Jayson does a good job throwing the

1168
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 4: ball backwards so it's not a forward pass. Zach Scharbona

1169
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: catches the rock, picks up a block from DK. Metcalf

1170
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 4: gets up the field to call this play. Here's my

1171
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 4: question with this play. Is this something that they stole

1172
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 4: from Detroit a couple of weeks ago or something that

1173
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 4: they've held on since training camp. You always have those

1174
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 4: plays where it's like, all right, if we get into

1175
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 4: a situation, we might call this. Most of the times

1176
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 4: you don't call this play. It's just always there. What

1177
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 4: do you see more?

1178
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, it's copycat league.

1179
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 5: You remember the one we've seen was when Walt or

1180
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 5: Shane Waldron did it where you know they fake the

1181
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 5: screen to the last face, the screen to the right

1182
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 5: against forty nine ers and then we hit the tight

1183
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 5: end down the middle. And I've seen it like three

1184
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 5: or four. I just say, I just saw that again.

1185
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 5: I go, we just ran that who we stole from

1186
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 5: someone else. Going into this play, we were zero for

1187
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 5: eighteen on third down.

1188
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: And ten plus wow.

1189
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 5: And so I'm watching across the round, I go, Okay,

1190
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 5: we're playing a little field position here.

1191
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 6: Huge play at the time too. I just I love group. Man.

1192
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 6: It's just you're right.

1193
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 5: Some people just oh, I'm gonna save this for the

1194
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 5: last play of the game. Man, don't save for the

1195
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 5: last play. Save it for when you absolutely need it

1196
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 5: and can matter. And yeah, just you called it great.

1197
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 5: I was, There's it's so well executed at to across

1198
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 5: the board. Everybody's blocked perfect, the timing of it. I was,

1199
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 5: I was looking. I go, if you wait longer, that

1200
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 5: play doesn't work because of the way the bat comes

1201
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 5: out of the back.

1202
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 6: You throw it to early.

1203
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 5: Someone kind of came off earlier and possibly if you know,

1204
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 5: stopping from even throwing it.

1205
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 6: So again, really well executed. It's great, coach.

1206
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 4: And I think another underrated part of that is the

1207
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 4: receivers to jaysn if they made contact with the defender

1208
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 4: too early, that play is going to be called. They're

1209
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 4: going to be flagged for passing appearance. So, like you mentioned,

1210
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 4: executed perfectly. The timing Gino letting go on the football,

1211
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 4: the receivers blocking the defenders, even Dekal on the other side,

1212
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 4: kind of building a wall for Zach Charbaay to get around.

1213
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 4: And let's not underestimate the throw by Jasn. I mean,

1214
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 4: you still gotta throw that thing and hit Zach Scharbaay.

1215
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 4: So that was awesome, man, I love the play call.

1216
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 4: Copycat League. We saw it a couple of times. You

1217
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 4: and I were trying to figure out where we saw

1218
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 4: at the weekend. I think it was in college football

1219
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 4: we saw that same play. I don't know, we're getting

1220
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 4: it out of Yeah, well, yeah, I don't remember anyway, Right.

1221
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 3: Let's get to the next play.

1222
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 4: This next play Ken Walker our twenty one yard touchdown

1223
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter.

1224
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 7: Walker stays in the backfield, this time single wide out

1225
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 7: to each side.

1226
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 6: Motion across the formation is the tight end.

1227
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 8: Toss to Walker, cuts back inside, turns up field out

1228
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 8: of the fifteenth He's gonna score ten five he does

1229
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 8: in touchdown. See Hawks from twenty one out ken Walker

1230
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 8: the third welcome back brother, big score for the Hawks

1231
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 8: again getting back in the game, and again Dave great

1232
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 8: blocking at the point of attack.

1233
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: All right, so I have a theory with this play.

1234
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 3: You let me know what you think.

1235
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 4: All right, They're in a double tight formation. They're in

1236
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 4: a one by one like in a wing. One wing

1237
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 4: to the right, one wing to the left. You get

1238
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 4: DK tight to the formation. Left you have I believe

1239
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 4: that's Jason DK to the right, Jason to the left.

1240
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 4: So AJ Barner goes in motion and essentially they're running

1241
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 4: a zone to the left. You have another tight end

1242
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 4: to the left side. I think that tight end is

1243
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 4: supposed to release and get that backer, and the tight

1244
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 4: end emotion is supposed to kick out the wing or

1245
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 4: Aiden Hutchison right there.

1246
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: They end up getting a double team. So now there's a.

1247
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 4: Free linebacker right there, which forces ken Walker to move

1248
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 4: back to the right.

1249
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 3: I think there was a miscommunication. There are just a

1250
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 3: bust in the play.

1251
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, ken Walker doing what he does, being special makes

1252
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 4: that makes that thing happen. Yeah.

1253
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 5: I mean, look, there is some good blocking me and

1254
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 5: we got two double teams that are really well blocked.

1255
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 5: We do kick out Hutchinson on this thing. I think

1256
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 5: got Hutchinson right.

1257
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1258
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 6: And then and when I say kick him out, I

1259
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 6: mean a J.

1260
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 3: Barne.

1261
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 6: I'm not at it's not even a J.

1262
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 3: Barn Is that Farrell I think it is.

1263
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 6: I mean he knocks a crap out of them.

1264
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 5: I mean it's like he knocks him three yards to

1265
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 5: the side, not that he went down. And then you

1266
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 5: have Barner comes in and cleans that up. But you're

1267
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 5: right the linebacker because no one grabs him. He flashes

1268
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 5: into the kind of the just outside the tackle, and

1269
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 5: that forces Canine to cut back. Look at this is

1270
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 5: there's just not very many running backs in the league

1271
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 5: and make this cutback this quick. What's so impressive on

1272
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 5: this is he does he makes one guy miss the linebacker.

1273
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 5: When I say makes a miss, he just gives him

1274
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 5: a little bit of a limp leg and then he's

1275
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 5: at full acceleration by the time he gets to the safety,

1276
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 5: who's in a pretty good position.

1277
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 6: And I don't even think he gets a hand him.

1278
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 5: Maybe he gets a hand on him, and the speed

1279
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 5: and the other guy's got an angle on him too,

1280
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 5: and no go man, his speed's incredible. I think Ken

1281
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 5: I can do anything. He can be a power running

1282
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 5: back when he wants to. He'd be great out of

1283
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 5: the backfield. If you want to run between the tackles,

1284
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 5: no problem, because he'll make one guy miss and go.

1285
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 5: He has this ability to cut back. We saw his

1286
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 5: one touchdown when we played the Is it the Bronco?

1287
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 5: Who is the third game we played Miami Is he

1288
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 5: the Broncos or Miami where he made a guy miss

1289
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 5: very similar to this, even though we were on the

1290
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 5: play side to our right, very similar. He got to

1291
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 5: the corner. Nobody can catch this guy. I mean, his

1292
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 5: speed is incredible. I think he is a premier running back.

1293
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 5: I'm We'll say it again. If he stays healthy, he

1294
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 5: will make the Pro Bowl this year.

1295
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl. You heard it here first from Wawyer.

1296
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 4: All right, Next play, Geno Smith finds JSN on on

1297
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 4: a fourth down conversion, but it was negated thanks to

1298
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 4: a suspect passing affair.

1299
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 7: As a call ball is at the Lions thirty nine.

1300
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 7: A trip set to the right, empty backfield for Geno

1301
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 7: takes the shotgun, snap shifts.

1302
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 8: Got a man wide open JSN, but a flag comes flying.

1303
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 7: In and we make got an interference call on the

1304
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 7: Seahawks coming inside and blocking to release JSN out to

1305
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 7: the flat. Let's see if that's going to be the call.

1306
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 7: Kind of a pick play. We used to run them

1307
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 7: all the time. I can see DK is not happy,

1308
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:34,959
Speaker 7: nor is Gino. But the conversation continues. So maybe fast

1309
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 7: interference offense number sixteen for ten.

1310
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 6: Year family with three four thousands.

1311
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 4: This one really got me. Hot Moyer, you want to

1312
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 4: take the lead on this one.

1313
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 5: I'll take the lead just because this place so upsetting

1314
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 5: to me. I love me some offensive pass interference call, right,

1315
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 5: I mean not called nearly enough in my opinion, it's

1316
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 5: just not I mean, if you look at the play,

1317
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 5: first of all, when Tyler takes off the one defensive

1318
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 5: back who's trying to go over the top to cover

1319
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 5: JSN pigeons Tyler locket. There's nowhere for him to go.

1320
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 5: All he's doing is running straight like aur go route.

1321
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 5: It's not his job to avoid anybody. Even if it

1322
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 5: was a pit play, it's not a pit play. The

1323
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 5: other thing is why you jamming Tyler seven yards downfield?

1324
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 5: Here's another one. Go watch DK. DK throws his arms

1325
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 5: up in the air. He's really upset he's being held

1326
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 5: on the crossing route. They don't call that one. The

1327
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 5: only flag that they throw is not a flag. It

1328
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 5: should not have been a penalty other than maybe an

1329
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 5: illegal hit downfield by their defensive backs. You can't call

1330
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 5: this ever, and you definitely can't call it in a

1331
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 5: situation like that in the game. I'm gonna say it's

1332
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 5: gonna lost the game. I mean whatever, But wow, did

1333
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 5: it have a huge impact on a game?

1334
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 6: And we're dry and the ball.

1335
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 5: We're down eight at the time, should have been down seven,

1336
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:03,919
Speaker 5: but we're down eight at the time.

1337
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 6: Just don't get it.

1338
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 4: No, The thing that if it's a pick play, if

1339
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 4: it's a true pick play, you're coaching Tyler Lockett to

1340
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 4: get to the outside shoulder of that defender to stop

1341
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 4: him from going across the field to JSM. Tyler Lockett

1342
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 4: gets contact and then takes the inside shape to release.

1343
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 5: Oh let me, you made up a good point there.

1344
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 5: The pick play is Tyler needs to get the guy

1345
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,919
Speaker 5: who's going over the top. Yeah, exactly, So he didn't

1346
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 5: even get the guy that he's trying to pick.

1347
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 6: That's how that's how bad that even touch me?

1348
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 4: You know it's real because I went on x AKA

1349
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 4: Twitter and I posted, I go, that was such a

1350
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 4: horrible call, and there's some people come on bump you

1351
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 4: gotta look at it, and I say, look, I stand

1352
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 4: by my call, And all of a sudden, when the

1353
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 4: video's out, the people's just quiet because they're seeing the

1354
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 4: same thing. It's like, Look, football is a contact sport.

1355
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 4: As a receiver, like you mentioned, it's not my job

1356
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 4: to avoid any contact, all right, It's my job to

1357
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 4: get through the contact.

1358
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 3: And that's what I posted.

1359
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 4: I go, this is Tyler Lockett working through contact. It

1360
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 4: happens on a lot of plays in the NFL when

1361
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 4: the receiver's releasing up the field on an aggressive corner.

1362
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 4: So they got it wrong. And we're ballplayers, former ballplayers.

1363
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 4: You never want to let one play determine the game, right.

1364
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 4: You never want to point the finger and say, well,

1365
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 4: if this didn't happen, then you know they wouldn't be

1366
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 4: in that situation.

1367
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 3: They were where they were. It happened.

1368
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 4: But it's unfortunate that the referees felt like it felt

1369
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 4: like the referees just had a big influence on the outcome.

1370
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 5: Of considering DK got tackled in the end zone. Back

1371
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 5: right in front of a referee and they didn't call it.

1372
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 4: Yep, all right, we're done crying. Yeah, all right, We're

1373
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 4: moving on to the New York Giants. All right, man,

1374
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 4: we'll come back and time to talk that talk. Boy

1375
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 4: and I will square up and talk about some topics.

1376
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 4: He'll tell me I'm wrong. I'll tell him he's wrong,

1377
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 4: and you guys will tell me I'm right. That's next

1378
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 4: right here on Hawk's lot.

1379
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: It's time to talk that talk with Michael Bumpis and

1380
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:04,919
Speaker 1: Paul Moyer on Hawk's Live.

1381
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 4: Welcome back to Hawks Live of Michael Bamas with Paul Moyer.

1382
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 3: It is Thursday. It ain't seven anymore.

1383
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 4: It's a thirty five, but we started at seven, and uh,

1384
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 4: this is one of my favorite parts of the show.

1385
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 3: Man.

1386
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 4: Get to throw some topics out there and make your argument.

1387
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 4: You know, when I was young, I used to, uh

1388
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 4: happen to miss a couple of periods of school and

1389
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 4: be at home and watch Judge Judy. This gives me

1390
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 4: like Judge Judy, Judge Joe Mathis, you know what I mean.

1391
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 3: Jerry Springer rest in peace.

1392
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 6: Honestly say, I've never watched Judged.

1393
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 3: You never what people's Court.

1394
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 6: She's worked over one hundred People's Court. I just never

1395
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 6: never watched the People's Court. I was working, man, man,

1396
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 6: you're young, I was working, you.

1397
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 3: Were I mean, come on, everybody got time for the

1398
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 3: People's book. Now if you.

1399
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 5: Went back to my college dation and yeah, I used

1400
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 5: to get watch General Hospital.

1401
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 6: And and what's the other soap opera? Anyways?

1402
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was big the rest of us, no, not younger.

1403
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 5: Is all my all my children, all children, Erica whatever.

1404
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was into that.

1405
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 3: All my children will continue.

1406
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 6: General Hospital was a.

1407
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 5: Big one though, all right, Luke and the other girl

1408
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 5: bringing back memories, Lane, Yeah.

1409
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 3: Some of y'all too young to remember that. Nicole, you're

1410
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 3: too young.

1411
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 6: Some of you know who I'm talking about. Come on,

1412
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 6: all my children, General Hospital.

1413
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 3: Come on, are you ready to do this? Let's do it?

1414
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 3: You leave the charge, all right?

1415
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 5: Look, I want to read you. I want to do over.

1416
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 5: I want another shot at these forty nine or excuse me,

1417
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 5: Detroit Lions. But I need them, and it is to

1418
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 5: be healthy. So the fully healthy Seahawk team will beat

1419
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 5: the Lions if we meet again in the playoffs.

1420
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 4: Oh, they getting them, They are getting them, no doubt

1421
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 4: about it.

1422
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 3: Man, it was.

1423
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 4: It was impressive to watch the Detroit Lions work right.

1424
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 4: As football guys, you appreciate good football when you see

1425
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 4: it good. Their offensive line was aggressive, defensive line was

1426
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 4: on point. Aiden Hutchison affected the game and did not

1427
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 4: record a tackle or a set and he was everywhere.

1428
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 3: Man, I think the energy.

1429
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 4: That was in the building that night helped him out

1430
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 4: as well. And when you're playing against twos, look twos

1431
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 4: or twos for a reason. Yeah, no disrespect to them,

1432
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 4: but they're just not good enough to be ones. So

1433
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,959
Speaker 4: when you got four or five twos out there on

1434
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 4: one side of the football, you are going to feel it.

1435
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 4: If the Seahawks are completely healthy, there's no.

1436
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 3: Doubt in my mind they get it done.

1437
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 4: Because it was forty two to twenty nine and it

1438
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 4: wasn't really forty two to twenty nine. There are a

1439
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 4: couple of things that went Detroit's away, so one hundred

1440
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 4: percent see them again good to go.

1441
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that, And here's why it makes

1442
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 5: me feel good. I think Detroit's a complete team. I

1443
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 5: think they're well coached. I think they got two good

1444
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 5: fronts that are a problem for teams. They're they're physical

1445
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 5: at the linebacker spot.

1446
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 6: I mean, they just play with massive effort.

1447
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 5: They have corners that know how to cheat just enough

1448
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 5: or to ride defense of the rules, you know, and

1449
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 5: force referees to to make the calls. I think they're

1450
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 5: a complete team. I think they're a Super Bowl contending team.

1451
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 5: And I think we're healthy and just get a couple

1452
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 5: of calls or I think we get them again.

1453
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 6: So I want that shot. I want it. I want

1454
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 6: it bad, but I prefer it be here.

1455
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, nothing like home field of Vatas No.

1456
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 4: All right, next one we got. The defensive line will

1457
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 4: be the deciding fact on whether this team will be

1458
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 4: good or great?

1459
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 3: Or is it the offensive line? Which one?

1460
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 5: Well, I think we've seen the offensive line, and I

1461
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 5: think they're they're improving each game. I think, look, I

1462
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 5: think there's a limit to where they go, you know,

1463
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 5: just from a skills standpoint, But I like what I see.

1464
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 5: I think they can turn games physical, that we mix

1465
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 5: in the run game, which is intricate at times. U

1466
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 5: and I think what Gino's doing with all the skill

1467
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 5: set we have at receiver.

1468
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 6: We can beat you throwing it, we can beat you

1469
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 6: running it. We can play a high scoring game.

1470
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 5: So I think this last week just proved that our

1471
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 5: defensive line has got to be healthy and we've got

1472
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 5: to be dominant. We've got to let our linebackers run.

1473
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 5: We've got to be able to put pressure on a

1474
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 5: quarterback so our dvs start making some receptions getting turnovers.

1475
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 5: When we were we just we just didn't have We

1476
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 5: sudn't have enough starters in the game last week and

1477
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 5: that affected us. Now I am curious because we may

1478
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 5: not get everybody healthy this week. Detroit's offensive line may

1479
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 5: have been so good that I go, all right, that

1480
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 5: that kind of skewed it. But from what I saw

1481
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 5: last week, for us to be great, we've got to

1482
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 5: have our defensive line healthy and play it at a

1483
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 5: high level.

1484
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 4: I use this analogy on the Bump and Stay show

1485
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 4: ten to two. Paul Atis, all right, I said the

1486
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 4: Detroit Lions game was like swinging the weighted club to

1487
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 4: warm up, like you're fighting a guinsts and you're finding gifts.

1488
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,919
Speaker 4: And whereas this week, man, these twos have gotten some reps,

1489
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 4: so they'll be a bit more loose this time around

1490
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 4: if they do get some playing time. But I think

1491
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 4: with the skill guys with Gino, the receivers with Jay

1492
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 4: Love will if he's healthy to go, with Jenkins in

1493
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 4: the corners.

1494
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 3: It's all about all the d line.

1495
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 4: If the D line can stop the run and get pressure,

1496
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 4: the offense is shown. Look we're good enough to carry

1497
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 4: this team for a while. Five hundred and sixteen yards

1498
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 4: of offense, thirty eight first downs, franchise record.

1499
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 6: I've never seen that before.

1500
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 4: You out rushed the Lions, you threw for more yards,

1501
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 4: you had more first downs, just.

1502
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 3: Couldn't get stopped by the way. Should be nine, shouldn't

1503
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 3: be thirty nine.

1504
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, but they called that more correct.

1505
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: I thought we were done crying.

1506
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 6: That's just a little It was just more like a sniffle, sniffle, Yeah, okay, yeah,

1507
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 6: I've got one.

1508
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 3: More, ye one more.

1509
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 5: Houston Astle start off seven to nineteen. At one point,

1510
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 5: the Marias had a ten game lead. They didn't knock

1511
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 5: him out, and football, you know, a two to three

1512
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 5: game lead.

1513
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 6: Look, forty nine. We got to take them out while

1514
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 6: we got a shot.

1515
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 5: The Seahawks will be all alone and in first place

1516
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 5: two weeks from this time next Thursday.

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01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 3: So the Niners are two and two. They played the Cardinals.

1518
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 6: Play the Cardinals.

1519
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 4: Cardinals fooled me for a week and then I figured

1520
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 4: out who they really are. They're just the Cardinals of old.

1521
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 4: So I think the Niners are going to take care

1522
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 4: of the Cardinals.

1523
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 5: And they were one game lead, all right, then we

1524
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 5: go and play. They come here on Thursday night and

1525
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 5: you beat them. It's it's two gamely, but you beat

1526
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 5: them to truly a three game lead.

1527
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 6: Yep, that's equivalent of like a ten game lead.

1528
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,759
Speaker 4: And you know what makes me even more optimistic about

1529
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 4: beating the Niners. No, Christian McCaffrey, I know they got

1530
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 4: other weapons.

1531
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 3: Will be back.

1532
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 6: No, they're all back but him.

1533
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Mason has been balling there. They're running back.

1534
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 3: He's a second one, a rusher in the league.

1535
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 6: I want, I want. We need to be healthy.

1536
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 3: That d line needs to be healthy.

1537
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 6: They gotta be healthier. It's gonna be a Detroit game.

1538
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 4: Do you really think I'm gonna sit here and say

1539
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 4: that the Hawks are not going to be in sole

1540
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 4: possession of first. You know, I'm not want to say that.

1541
01:09:58,600 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 3: Moyer.

1542
01:09:59,640 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm good.

1543
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 4: I sing vibes of the universe and it all comes back.

1544
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 4: So I'm sending it out there.

1545
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 5: It feels like this is the time that we closed

1546
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 5: the gap.

1547
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 3: Right when's the last time we beat them?

1548
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 6: It's been a while.

1549
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 5: I mean, they've got our number right now, twenty twenty one.

1550
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 5: I was I was in my fifties.

1551
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 3: I was, uh, mid thirties instead of pushing forty.

1552
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, three years ago, three.

1553
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 3: Years a lot.

1554
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 5: Three years ago is like a lifetime. It's like a

1555
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:29,799
Speaker 5: ten game lead in baseball.

1556
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 6: Now.

1557
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 5: I feel like this is the time. They're not playing great.

1558
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 5: They're still a really good football team, you know that.

1559
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 5: I feel like we did not play great. We were

1560
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 5: undermanned in this last game. We've played a Super Bowl

1561
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 5: contended team who played a great game, and we still

1562
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 5: had a chance to beat them. Yeah, now's the time, man.

1563
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 5: You can't waste it going. You gotta beat giants on

1564
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 5: a short week and you put your stamp on it,

1565
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 5: like no messing around, but your I won't. I don't

1566
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 5: want to get too graph to do that. And then

1567
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 5: you get ready for the short week. They get to

1568
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 5: fly here and if you're healthy, man, it's going that's

1569
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 5: a big game.

1570
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 6: And then I fly Friday morning to Dallas.

1571
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 5: I'm in a great mood and my grandbaby my son's

1572
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 5: getting married that Saturday. It's gonna be it's gonna be

1573
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 5: a great weekend.

1574
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 3: Let's go. Let's go your Sunday. Waste no time. They

1575
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 3: got engaged and said tomorrow we get married to the apple.

1576
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 6: Didn't fall far from the man I did.

1577
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 3: When you know, you know, well they've been together for

1578
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 3: a long Yeah. Yeah, they've been together for a while.

1579
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 3: We ain't gotta tell all your business.

1580
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 6: Keep it right here. Told quite a bit, all right.

1581
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 4: Coming up next, we put a wrap on this thing,

1582
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 4: this hog's lot.

1583
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue

1584
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air on

1585
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: Seattle Sports.

1586
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 4: Welcome back to Hawks Live. I'm Michael Bumpers with Paul Moore.

1587
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 4: The last segment of the day. We started with a thousand,

1588
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 4: We got five hundred left. All right.

1589
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,879
Speaker 3: You guys are the soldiers. We appreciate you guys.

1590
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't realize what they get there by the way,

1591
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 5: getting gift cards that you go to every place here

1592
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 5: and go shopping and you get the hotel. Safety for

1593
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 5: you all. You are driving home listening right now. You

1594
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 5: missed out, missed out, missed out? Then we're gonna do

1595
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 5: the Oprah. Look underneath your seat, got some gifts?

1596
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 3: What about Ellen? Ellen? Does that too our dish? Yeah?

1597
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 6: I never watched You told me that I did. No,

1598
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 6: It's like Judge Judy, Judge Judy.

1599
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 4: The people score just Joe mathis all that stuff all right?

1600
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 4: The New York Football Giants. Man, we started the show

1601
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 4: praising the enemy. You must praise the enemy because you

1602
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 4: don't want to go in thinking that anything is guaranteed.

1603
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 3: Because this is the NFL.

1604
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 4: We've seen teams that aren't supposed to win win some

1605
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 4: ball games. The Hawks have been on the other side.

1606
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 4: You're supposed to win this ball game. A team comes

1607
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 4: into looming field and they get you. So I respect

1608
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 4: the opponent. Thibodau is a good ballplayer. Burns is a

1609
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 4: good ballplayer. Dexter Lawrence is a good ball player and

1610
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 4: gets sprinkling a whole bunch of other guys. When we're

1611
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 4: starting to talk about the defense and we focus on

1612
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 4: the defensive line, you're gonna give everyone behind.

1613
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 3: You a chance.

1614
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 4: So I think the key for the Seahawks is to

1615
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 4: neutralize those guys. If you can keep Geno clean, we

1616
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 4: see what he can do. You should be okay.

1617
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, Tipota is a problem.

1618
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 5: I mean coming back to the Northwest to you know

1619
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 5: that he'll be juiced for that.

1620
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 6: He's good.

1621
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 5: They have fifteen sacks, so they're getting after the quarterback yep,

1622
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 5: which is impressive too, because you know.

1623
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 6: They they haven't had the they haven't had.

1624
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 5: The leads a lot where the forced teams to throw

1625
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 5: a bunch, right, But they've been in every game. I mean,

1626
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 5: you go, look, I mean twenty to fifteen, it's twenty

1627
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 5: one to I mean it's been within one score and

1628
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 5: three or two of their losses. I guess the first

1629
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 5: loss was not good, but that was the first game

1630
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 5: of the year. They're a solid football team. They just

1631
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 5: don't have probably enough firepower to win in the fourth quarter.

1632
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 6: That's why it's narrative.

1633
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 5: That we get off to a good lead because we

1634
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,879
Speaker 5: don't have We're probably not gonna have everybody and cannot

1635
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 5: get into a slugfest here where it's a one possession game.

1636
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 6: Can't do that. Can't do it, man.

1637
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 5: We just got to get double digit lead, force them

1638
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 5: to do things they don't want.

1639
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 6: Put it on Jones.

1640
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 5: We're probably not gonna have their best wide receiver may

1641
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 5: not have their best running back. This is a game

1642
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 5: that to twelve should carry our backups to win.

1643
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 6: Special teams will be important.

1644
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 5: We got to play a great game, and we need

1645
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 5: to win this thing going away because we got a

1646
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 5: game four days later.

1647
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 6: Four days later good and that is a huge game.

1648
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 5: And if you want to make the dent and truly

1649
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 5: believe you're a Super Bowl contendent team, which I think

1650
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 5: we are when we're healthy, man, we got to get

1651
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 5: it done.

1652
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 6: So this important game.

1653
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 4: How awesome is that that we genuinely think win healthy?

1654
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 3: This is a contending team. You look at all the

1655
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 3: other teams in the NFC.

1656
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 4: The Vikings are playing good football, of course, the Detroit

1657
01:14:58,200 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 4: Lions you got their best shot and still feel like

1658
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 4: you could have beaten them. The Niners have been banged up.

1659
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 4: You know that they're a good team. But I look

1660
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 4: across the NFC. The Cowboys, who are supposed to be

1661
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 4: good every year have been struggling. Philly doesn't look like

1662
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 4: the team that they're they were supposed to be. You

1663
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 4: look at the Bucks in Atlanta. Atlanta just beat the Bucks.

1664
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's wide open. So it's it's nice

1665
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 4: to talk about this team in a positive manner and

1666
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 4: not feel like you're hoping. It's like, no, we've seen it.

1667
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 4: When healthy, this team can play at a certain standard.

1668
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 4: But I think a lot of it is contingent on

1669
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 4: the offense. Granted, defense has to be healthy to your thing.

1670
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 4: But the offense and Gino in that run game in

1671
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 4: the past game getting going because I think for the

1672
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 4: first time in a while, the strength of this defense

1673
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 4: is the offense, but the but the defense isn't too

1674
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 4: far behind the past few years of Russell's career here

1675
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 4: the strength was the offense of the defense was just

1676
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 4: a non factor.

1677
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't feel that way anymore now.

1678
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 6: I look.

1679
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 5: We go the first game of the year, a defense

1680
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 5: plays unbelievable, I mean, just a ton of energy, and

1681
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 5: you you see what it is capable of. The second game,

1682
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 5: we don't stop the run well, but you know, we're

1683
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 5: okay with that because I'm like, we weren't gonna lose

1684
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 5: that game, and we gave up a couple of big runs,

1685
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 5: but it wasn't like they were gashing us all day.

1686
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 2: Uh.

1687
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:15,919
Speaker 5: Then the next game we just flat out dominate against Miami.

1688
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 5: But I think this Detroit game was a good where

1689
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 5: are we scheme wise? I think when we're healthy, our

1690
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 5: defense is going to be a force against anybody. Our

1691
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 5: offense is getting better every single week, our offensive lines

1692
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 5: getting better every single week what Grub does. And it's

1693
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 5: hard for a team to tee off on the Seahawks

1694
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 5: in our passing game because the amount of things we do,

1695
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 5: the way we bring guys on polls and then come

1696
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 5: backside for protection, or they'll pull a guy and they'll

1697
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 5: leave a defensive end the block that we're blocking down

1698
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 5: with our defensive tackles and they freeze for a second thing, Well,

1699
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 5: that's got to be a run. No, we're bringing somebody

1700
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 5: in motion and we're gonna kick you out. But you

1701
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:02,560
Speaker 5: didn't get a full startup fel. So we're creating pockets

1702
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,839
Speaker 5: that are unconventional. We're not just lining five to offensive

1703
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 5: linemen and say we're gonna block your four guys.

1704
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 6: We're gonna try to create time for genos.

1705
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 5: Now we do that at times, and we do it

1706
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 5: with empty backfield, which I hate empty backfield, but we've

1707
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 5: created this. Oh it's not just always quick game. You

1708
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 5: can't sit on this quick game the whole time. And

1709
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 5: because of that, now I've got four or five guys

1710
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 5: that can all beat I got canine or three wide

1711
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 5: received no offense. Those are mismatches across the board. So

1712
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 5: the quick game works, and then the time you jump it,

1713
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 5: we run a double move. I just really am been

1714
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 5: impressed with Greb. I think we'll keep it up, and

1715
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 5: I think we're starting to really gel on offense.

1716
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 4: I think obviously, I watched a lot of the Cowboys

1717
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 4: versus Giants game, and something that I noticed with the

1718
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 4: Cowboys is they don't do a lot of the pre

1719
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 4: snap movement that the Seahawks do. It's a lot of

1720
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 4: this straight up, this is who we this is what

1721
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 4: we're in. We're gonna go right at you. So I

1722
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 4: think that's gonna be a challenge for the New York

1723
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 4: Giants as well. It's just seeing something different, man, and

1724
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 4: and seeing a quarterback who was completely confident in the

1725
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 4: scheme and what he's seeing.

1726
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 3: I watched that game and.

1727
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 4: Dak's Prescott does not look like the Dak Prescott that

1728
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 4: was an MVP candidate what a year ago. Something's off

1729
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 4: over there. So I'm excited for the challenge.

1730
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 3: Man. I think I think these guys are too and I'll.

1731
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 5: Throw one for you too. I think it's really important.

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Speaker 5: It was an NFL record. It might still be. We

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Speaker 5: were playing the Giants here. I think it was Eli

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Speaker 5: Manning eleven fault starts here. It really started this, unbelieve

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Speaker 5: it was an five. Look, we need some of that

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Speaker 5: man again. I think the twelves are back. The twelves

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Speaker 5: are back, and I think our defense can be electric.

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Speaker 5: We need the defense to be electric and do that.

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Speaker 5: The one thing we're missing we got I get some turnovers.

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Speaker 5: We're minus three in a turnover ratio that I mean,

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Speaker 5: that's just a bad stat man, to be three and

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Speaker 5: one minus three.

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Speaker 6: We gotta flip that script.

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Speaker 5: We gotta start being plus on turnovers ratio, and good

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Speaker 5: time to get that done.

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Speaker 3: This there we go.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys for joining us today. Man Special thanks

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Speaker 4: to Derek Young and Ferreell Brown.

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Speaker 3: For joining the show.

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Speaker 4: Brendan Rodgers. Production assistant is Ashley Oaks, and our executive

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Speaker 4: producer is National Troby. The Seahawks pregame show is live

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Speaker 4: this Sunday is starting at ten am. Until next time,

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Speaker 4: I'm Michael Obamas that's Paul Moyer.

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