1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: All right, third hour, Clay and buck Shoe is flying 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: by as it always does. Appreciate you being here with 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: all of us. I just ran downstairs and down some 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Crocketcoffee Crockett Cooffee dot Com. Everybody get switched over to 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: the coffee that loves American freedom for this holiday, and 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: ten percent of our profits goes to our wonderful friends 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: at the Tunnel to Towers Foundation. And it's just the 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: coffee you should be drinking. And all of you who 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: drink coffee, what else are you drinking? Drink Crocket Coffee 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: Crocketcoffee dot com. All right, we have Clay a couple 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: of things that we let it laid out for everybody, 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: and we can jump into some of them. 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: Right now. We're going to talk. 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: About the data on pet owning and voting. I'm just 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: throwing it out there. I think fun I think if 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: you own a pet tarantula, you're voting Jill Stein. I 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: don't know why, but that just seems right to me. 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: You know, I think if you're somebody who has a 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: pet snake, you're definitely voting left of center. I don't know, 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna some of ours. We have snake owners in 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: the in our audience right now, they're gonna they're gonna 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: come at me on that one. 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 2: Foranceula owners, I don't care. You can come to me 24 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: all day. 25 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: There's some good people who own snakes, but they they 26 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: are they're very particular about the rep House. Anyway, we're 27 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: gonna get into this data. We're gonna get into all 28 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: this Clay has it ready for us. But first up, 29 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: just to make sure we're all up to speed on 30 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: all of the news, especially as we're getting into the 31 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: slow part of the of the news cycle with Christmas 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: and Hanukkah and New Year's and and Buck's birthday gonna 33 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: be forty How old am I gonna be forty three 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: years old? 35 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: Clay? Wow? My wife her birthday is on Christmas Day. 36 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: So there's that. 37 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: You're gonna be sixty one when your child graduates high school. Yep, 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: I think it, you know, I think it's gonna keep 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: you young. 40 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: That's good. That's good math, Clay. I just I had 41 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: a I mean that is like that is a. 42 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: I might be a grandfather by the time probably, maybe not, 43 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: maybe not. I don't know what the math is. Yeah, 44 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: probably I was twenty sixteen year old boy. I mean, 45 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: if we're going, if we're going eighteen, you would think, 46 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, but he'll be thirty four. And the boys 47 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: these days, I mean, you're one then out. I mean, like, 48 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: men wait a long time to have kids a lot 49 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: of times now. So so maybe I would like to think, Yes, 50 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: I would like to think I'll be a grandpa with that. Oh, 51 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: Clay not really helping with my I think I'm getting 52 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: old thing right now. You know, man, you're gonna have 53 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: all kinds of back pain when you go to your 54 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: kids high school graduation. Anyway, Yes, we're very excited about 55 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: all of that, except for the back pain part. So 56 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: it's the holiday. The news is gonna be slowing down 57 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: a bit. One thing we have here just to go 58 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: go through, so you're up to speed on it. New 59 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: York Judge Merchan in the Trump hush money case, the 60 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: most preposterous of the four criminal cases against Donald Trump, 61 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: which is saying something, but the most preposterous was this 62 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: New York Alvin Bragg pushed hush money thing. It's not 63 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: even with the hush money, actually I apologize even that's 64 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: how it's written here on ABC News George Stephanopolos's place 65 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: what does Trump call him again, slop Adopoulos. That's pretty great, Nick, 66 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: and actually super perceptive. Now that he's had to pay 67 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: a million dollars Trump, can you imagine how angry Slapadopoulos 68 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: is to have to write that check or set send 69 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: that wire to Trump. And I'm not kidding when I 70 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: say think about what Trump can do with that money 71 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: in his presidential library. He can legitimately say, hey, the 72 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: fake news wing endowed by ABC News, which was forced 73 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: to pay me fifteen million dollars. He can give George Slapadopoulos, 74 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: the chair of the fake news era. 75 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: Inside of that. But yet, I. 76 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: Would not be surprised Buck if there is a major 77 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: fight inside of ABC News over that settlement. And I 78 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: guarantee you Stepanopoulis did not want to cut that check, 79 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: but Slapadopoulis million dollars into Trump based on his inability 80 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: to correctly say what the civil court jury did in 81 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: that case, Slavopolis, I would just point out that the 82 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: real case was about a business records and the story. 83 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: You really have to try to keep this, keep all 84 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 1: this straight. Alvin Bragg decided that Donald Trump writing up 85 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: a lawful payment using his own money for something that 86 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: if he had used campaign funds for, would have clearly 87 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: then been hit with a campaign finance violation. Using his 88 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: own money for an in total totally lawful nuisance. NDA 89 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: payment was actually a grand scheme to defraud the American 90 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: voters of their right to know what they should have 91 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: known before the election, which therefore made it a felony 92 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: because it then touched on federal election law and not 93 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: just local New York law. Honestly, it would be hard 94 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: to come up with a more egregious abuse of legal 95 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: principle and legal plain language than what Alvin Bragg did. 96 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: Judge Merchan is not throwing it out. He said that 97 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: the evidence entirely related to unofficial conduct and poses no 98 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: danger of intrusion on the authority and function of the 99 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: executive branch. Thirty four felony counts of falsifying business records 100 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: stacking the counts, which is also unethical, I might add, 101 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: because it's one it's really one act, and as I've 102 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: explained before, this is important for all the prosecutors know this. Theoretically, 103 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: if somebody's passing a joint back and forth, every time 104 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: you've passed, that is a new possession crime. Nobody charges 105 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: you if you're on video, you know what a drug 106 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: dealer or you know, doing drugs or something. No one 107 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: charges you twenty times for one joint. If they're going 108 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: to charge you, which they shouldn't for just a joint, 109 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: but put that aside. If they're going to charge you, 110 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: they just charge you for the one crime. Right, we all, 111 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: this is what they did thirty four times. Clay, what 112 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: do you think is going on with merchand here? So 113 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: Merchant has pushed back sentencing on this case, and I 114 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: think that has been seen as a victory for Donald Trump. 115 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: And I think he's afraid to give Trump too many 116 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: victories inside of New York City. So he's an activist, 117 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: left wing judge. And I actually think this is an 118 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: intriguing court decision in general that has not been very 119 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: discussed because it's Trump and everybody just is focused on Trump. 120 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: But what the Supreme Court said was basically, we can 121 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: distinguish between official and unofficial acts when it comes to 122 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: where the number of presidential power goes. 123 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: And you and I have talked about this for some time. 124 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: If the President of the United States picked up a 125 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: paperweight from the resolute desk and smashed an associate an 126 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: employee in the face with that paperweight, causing a significant injury. 127 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: That would be an unofficial act. In other words, you 128 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: could be charged with assault and battery inside of the 129 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: White House, even though you're the President of the United States. 130 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: If you engaged in that. 131 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: The president let's say, punches his wife or in some 132 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: way engages in a violent act, it's not directly involving 133 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: the presidential acts itself. That's going to matter tremendously for 134 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: every president for the rest of our lives and for 135 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: every president for hundreds of years. They're going to have 136 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: to argue is this an official or unofficial act. The 137 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: challenge with this charge that has been brought in New 138 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: York City, which is holy illegitimate, which I think on 139 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: a legal analysis basis to what you kind of hit 140 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: on Buck, they had to find a second crime in 141 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: order to elevate this from a misdemeanor to a felony. 142 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: I think the hook that they used to do that 143 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: is actually not legal, and I think that's where this 144 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 1: case is going to get overturned at some point on appeal. 145 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: But I don't know that I disagree with the concept 146 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: here that this is an unofficial act because it occurred 147 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: before Trump was president of the United States. Now that 148 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: then turns into an actual interesting argument, because Buck, he 149 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: didn't pay until he was president of the United States. 150 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: So this is such a nerdy thing. But when does 151 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: the act itself occur? For purposes of analyzing what is 152 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: official and unofficial acts? 153 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: Is it the. 154 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: Agreement to pay which occurred before Trump were president or 155 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: is it the actual payment which occurred after Trump were president. 156 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: This is the kind of thing, Buck, that lawyers sit 157 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: around debating. And if that sounds intriguing to you, and 158 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: you are sixteen years old listening to us right now, 159 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: you're going to love law school, young man or young woman. 160 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: If that makes your eyeballs roll back into your head 161 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: and you think to yourself, oh my goodness, that debate 162 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: sounds awful, then the law might not be for you. 163 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: And regardless, you're probably going to spend a bunch of 164 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: time doing docker view if you're a young lawyer anyway, 165 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: most of the time. But does that make sense to you? 166 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: That it actually to me is kind of a really 167 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: fascinating application of this decision from the Supreme Court, which 168 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: doesn't have a clear cut answer. I think this case 169 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: is going to get tossed on appeal eventually. I think 170 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: the case in Georgia that Fanny Willis brought is total 171 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: garbage and directly implicates presidentential powers. I'm not sure exactly 172 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: whether that's the lynchpin to get it tossed out. This 173 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: is me being a legal nerd trying to analyze this, 174 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: and that's really what the appeal is going to be. 175 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: I believe focused on as it pertains to presidential powers. 176 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: So you're not worried about it, though, No you don't, 177 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: and I don't think Trump really is. I just think 178 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: he wants the vindication of the case being dismissed because 179 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: I think he sees it for what it is, which 180 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: is total BS. And really they're telling you it's total 181 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: BS because they're now not going to have the sentencing 182 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: until twenty twenty nine at the earliest, and they'll just 183 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: push it off to the side. Once Trump's no longer president. 184 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: Nobody's going to care about this. You know, I was 185 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: asked it was on her podcast, so I can say 186 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 1: it wasn't like offline. 187 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: You know, I try to keep confidence. Is Kim Strassel 188 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal. 189 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: I did her podcast, and you know, the Wall Street 190 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: Journal is obviously very establishment, right of center, establishment Republican. 191 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: It's a great paper. Kim is a fantastic editorial commonist. 192 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: But she asked me about this, this fear of a 193 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: vindictive Trump, or this fear that there will be retribution 194 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: from Trump, And to this, it's funny because I don't 195 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: just dismiss out of hand that there should there need 196 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: to actually be consequences for people who have done some 197 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: of these things. So I would I didn't sit there 198 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: and say, oh, no, I don't think Trump is I 199 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: think he's gonna let bygones be bygones with everybody and 200 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: everything is fine. No, I believe that would be unjust. 201 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: I think that would actually be wrong. I think to 202 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: be personally vindictive and to be unconstitutional or unlawful in 203 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: your approach to any American is wrong. But if people 204 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: broke the law, they should pay the price, and you 205 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: know that's their approach to Trump. I bring it up, Clay, 206 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: just because I don't see a way that through the 207 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: law anything can be done about what's going on here 208 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: in New York against Donald Trump. But there need to 209 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: at least be political consequences for it. I mean, there 210 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: has to be. What they've done is so atrocious that 211 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: it cannot be forgotten and forgiven. You know, that's my 212 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: take on it. Well, I think again, the Supreme Court 213 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: decision is going to severely curtail what they did to 214 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: Trump because so much of what a president does is 215 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: arguably within the purview of presidential powers. Investigating the outcome 216 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: of an election is definitely within the purview of presidential powers. 217 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: Telling your Department of Justice to undertake an investigation is 218 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: certainly within presidential powers. Calling individual, in my opinion, calling 219 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: individual state attorney generals and elections officials and inquiring about 220 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: the legitimacy of their vote count, to me, is clearly 221 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: within the purview of a president. And so I think 222 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: they've made it going forward. The Supreme Court, to their credit, 223 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: has made it much more difficult to bring these kind 224 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: of charges going forward. And I think you would agree, 225 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: and I think most of our audience would agree. The 226 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: president's not above the law. But if you're going to 227 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: charge the president with a crime, it needs to be 228 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: a crime that doesn't have anything at all to do 229 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 1: with the execution of his duties as president of the 230 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: United States. If the president got super drunk. I don't 231 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: care who he is, and he got in a car 232 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: and you know, he mowed down three people because he 233 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: was at a you know, a point two oh or 234 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: something on the you know, yeah, I know that you 235 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: actually have you've you've committed real crime with real victims, 236 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: and you need to pay the price for that. I 237 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: don't care who the president is or what the situation 238 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: is around the politics of it. A business records case 239 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: against the president is this is absurd. It's it's absurd. 240 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: There's no other way to say it. And look, I'll 241 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: give you an example of something that would clearly not 242 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: be within presidential powers that has been a scandal in 243 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: recent history, Bill Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky, even though 244 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: it occurred in the oval office, much of the activity 245 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: surrounding it. 246 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: If he had engaged. 247 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: In some sort of criminal act and she had charged 248 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: him with some sort of criminal acts sexual assault, rape, 249 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: whatever it would have been, that could have been investigated 250 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: and pursued against the president of the United States. To 251 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: your point, the president is protected from a lot of 252 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: criminal acts because he doesn't do a lot of things 253 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: that could be criminal in nature. For instance, the president 254 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: can drive a car, So it would be really difficult 255 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: for the president to get a dui and hit anybody. 256 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: And to my knowledge, you know better than me, Buck, 257 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't imagine they let the president have access to guns, right. 258 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't think the Secret Service would allow the president 259 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: to like have a handgun around him. I could be wrong. 260 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's funny, that's a funny que. I mean, 261 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: who was the last president to be strapped? 262 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 263 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: I mean, while they're president, don't tell me. Teddy Roosevelt 264 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: was the military, and. 265 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: I get it, but yeah, who was the last you 266 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: could you even do it? Right? 267 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: Like? If Donald Trump loved guns and he was like, hey, 268 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: I want to carry a firearm on me at all times, 269 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they would let him do 270 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: it because of the danger that he might shoot himself. Again, 271 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: have you ever heard this discussed? I don't know. I 272 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: think it's a fascinating question, but it kind of gets 273 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: into the difficulty of the president committing a lot of 274 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: crimes because they protect him from the ability to do that. 275 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: But we're talking about weapons protecting yourself, and you may 276 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: want to protect your family with non lethal weapons, which 277 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: is what the Pepper Projectile launcher does. Look, we've got 278 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: all these Saber products throughout the house. We've got security 279 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: bars on all of the doors in our house, front, 280 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: back doors, everything else. They can stop up to six 281 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds of force to get inside of 282 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: your home. What about if you're in the home. We've 283 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: got this too, Pepper, the projectile launcher. It can help 284 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: your family be protected. But it's non lethal. So if 285 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: you're concerned about who might be coming in your house, 286 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: he got teenagers. Do they sneak maybe sometimes in and 287 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: out of the house. Do you go to bed before 288 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: their curfew might be over? 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We're gonna 306 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: have some fun with you here on the back side 307 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: of the final hour of the Tuesday edition of the program. 308 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 1: With some data out there about how pet owners voted. 309 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: I'll let Buck guess at it. I've got it in 310 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: front of me right now. I think it's going to 311 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: be really entertaining for what you guys are able to 312 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: glean from that, and maybe, just possibly Jade Vance is 313 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: going to be vindicated in some of the data that 314 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: we will be sharing with all of you. There's a 315 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: little bit of a tease about what the data might 316 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 1: reflect when it comes to how people voted. Funny reminds 317 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: me of these memes that I'm seeing about how when 318 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: you see a guy walking a doodle, any kind of doodle, 319 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: whether he has a wedding ring or not, just know 320 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: that he's taken. 321 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: It's totally true, totally true. 322 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: Every guy that I see with a doodle, it's the 323 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 1: wife's or the girlfriends now. 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Again, we've been talking about the fifteen million 350 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: dollar Trump settlement, the impact Trump has filed a bunch 351 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: of different lawsuits against a variety of different media outlets. 352 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: We've also been talking about the judge merchand decision and 353 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: the fact that he's not going to toss the felony conviction. 354 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: Buck's gonna be back in a sec. He's chasing down 355 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: an issue with his dog ginger, and I wanted to 356 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: hit you with this data point. 357 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: I flagged it. 358 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: In the meantime, we'll have some fun with that data 359 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: when buckets backed. But I did flag this this morning 360 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: from the Wall Street Journal. This stat blew my mind. 361 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: It's called why the US is trouncing Europe, and it's 362 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: about why our economic success is so much more substantial 363 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: than everybody in the European Union. And I couldn't believe this. 364 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: While Europe has created the entire European content, has created 365 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: fourteen companies worth more than ten billion dollars in the 366 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: past fifty years. That's got about four hundred billion dollars 367 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: of market value in total. 368 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: All right, So I like to look at the data. 369 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: All of Europe. 370 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: Fourteen companies worth more than ten billion in the past 371 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: fifty years. What about America? Americans have created two hundred 372 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: and fifty companies worth ten billion dollars or more, and 373 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: those companies are now worth thirty trillion dollars. So the 374 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: argument in this in this piece is that Americans are 375 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: willing to take risks when it comes to creating new businesses, 376 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: and that our nation creates the structure under which those 377 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: new businesses can be able to grow. But that staggered 378 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: me when you consider all of Europe has created about 379 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: four hundred billion dollars in market value, the United States 380 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: in the last fifty years has created thirty trillion. So 381 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm not great at math, but we are about sixty 382 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: times as productive when it comes to using our economic 383 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: structure to create something new, and I do think it's 384 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: worth contemplating and thinking about what that says about us 385 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: in a larger context. It is that America has always 386 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: embraced risk and it's a huge part of our DNA 387 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: as a nation. And if you think about why that 388 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: would be was pretty risky back in the day to 389 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: decide that you were going to get on a ship 390 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: and leave behind everything that you had ever seen before 391 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: and come to a new land. And I would submit 392 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: to you that the culture of America rewards risk taking 393 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: and is ingrained with risk takers more than almost any 394 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: country in the world. And that's what that data reflects 395 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: right there. Buck, you are back, Let's go to break 396 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: here we come back. We'll close out the show with 397 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: some fun as it pertains. Ironically, you had an issue 398 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: with your dog, and I'm gonna give you the pet 399 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: data on how pet owners voted in twenty twenty four. 400 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 2: I was about to come on Aaron say I love 401 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: my dog so much. We want to put a little 402 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: Santa hat on her. 403 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: And she's amazing and I'm a big doodle person, after 404 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: never thinking I would be. She's barfing downstairs because she 405 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: probably you know, she gets Tommy aches from you know 406 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: if her filet mignon has a little too much marbled 407 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: fat in it or something. I mean, this is the 408 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: most spoiled dog on the planet. It's amazing that she 409 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: comes from wolves Clay, Like, really, I don't know how 410 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: that's even possible, but yes, there's. 411 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: A lot of generations since they were wolves. 412 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: Holidays can be especially difficult for kids who have lost 413 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: a mother or father in the line of you. In fact, 414 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: when Sergeant Stevensplan suffered a heart attack while on fire duty, 415 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: you guys were there to lift his family. During the 416 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: Tunnel the Towers Foundation Season of Hope. 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Feed on the iHeartRadio app 432 00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: or wherever you. 433 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: Get you Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. 434 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: Uh. 435 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: This is from Axios, and I tease this for a 436 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: little while, but I found this to be really interesting. 437 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: Men who own cats or dogs Buck mostly voted for Trump. 438 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: That is, if you are a guy and you have 439 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: a dog, probably doesn't surprise you you voted Trump. Men 440 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: who have dogs voted Trump nearly sixty forty kind of like, 441 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: would you expect that to be true? 442 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: Oh? 443 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely? But I would also throw in there if you 444 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: broke the dogs down by breed, Oh, let's see, you 445 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: would see substantial patterns of what kind of uh you know, 446 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: I think if bigger the dogs, you're bigger the dog, 447 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: more likely you voted for Trump. You know, my brother 448 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: has a Pomeranian and one of our jokes is that 449 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: the Pomeranian case that he carries as an elderly Pomeranian 450 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: and very elderly now. And the case that he's carried 451 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: around in also doubles as a fantastic concealed carry bag. 452 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: So there's there's you know, you wouldn't expect it with 453 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: the pomp. But yes, I think Labrador. If you're a 454 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: Labrador owner, a Golden Retriever owners, as I'm talking about 455 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: John Shepherd, German Shepherd, you're you're gonna be I think 456 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: even higher, Like I bet that's eighty twenty Trump versus 457 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: Biden voters. 458 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: I bet you're right. 459 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: But even men with cats, even men who only had cats, 460 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: voted Trump fifty two forty six. Okay, what about women? 461 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: This is that again, this is vindication for JD. 462 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 2: Vance. 463 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: If you are a woman who has a cat, you 464 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: voted sixty forty for Kamala Harris. So men with dogs 465 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: and women with cats almost completely flipped how they vote. 466 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of fascinating to me. I mean, 467 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: I think intuitively a lot of you would guess it. 468 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: Men with dogs sixty f forty Trump, women with cats 469 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: sixty forty four Kamala. 470 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: And this is. 471 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: Interesting, Buck. If you are a woman with a dog, 472 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: you voted for Trump by five. So again, women with 473 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: dog owners pretty substantially voting Trump over Kamala cat owners 474 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: at least when it comes to women. So Jade Vance's 475 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: women cat owners like single women with cats. That is 476 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: the base potentially of the Democrat party. He was actually correct. 477 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: And before anybody gets a little you know, it's the 478 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: Christmas season, Christmas spirit whatever, to feel loved and happy. 479 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: Clay is a cat owner, well this is so that's 480 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: not something that I a cat owner, So don't think 481 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: that you know, we understand there are some there's always 482 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: exceptions to the rule, and cat is not. I mean 483 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: Clay has more than one cat. In fact, I have 484 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: seen them scurrying around the house. It's an awful decision 485 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: the family. By the way, if you have dogs and cats, 486 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: you voted Trump pretty substantially as well. So it's just 487 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: I am the exception here. 488 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: I am. 489 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: And for those who don't know, during COVID, when all 490 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: the schools were shut down and everybody was getting pets, 491 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: I have steadfastly refused to get cats. My wife has 492 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: wanted to get cats in the house for a long time. 493 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: She had the three boys give a persuasive speech because 494 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: they were out of school, so she assigned them to 495 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: each have to do a persuasive speech on why we 496 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: should get a cat, and that is how we ended 497 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: up with two cats inside of the house. So that 498 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: in and of itself is kind of a I think 499 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: it fulfills a lot of the expectations that would be 500 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: out there. But I did find it kind of staggering 501 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: just how true it was women with cats. Now, this 502 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: isn't broken down married versus single, so to be fair, 503 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: married couples tended to vote Trump over over Kamala regardless, 504 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: But it is kind of interesting that the stereotype completely 505 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: fills there. Wouldn't you have bet buck that dog owning 506 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: men would overwhelmingly vote Trump and that cat owning women 507 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: would be more likely to vote Kamala. I mean, it's 508 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: kind of a mirror image of how amazing that is. 509 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: This is the stereotype that's already out there, and stereotypes 510 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: sometimes exists based on a snapshot of perception, which is 511 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: based on a snapshot of data. So yeah, it's not 512 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: a not a shock at all. I do wish that 513 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: we had breed breakdown, because I think that would be fascinating. 514 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: I would guess I don't know. I would guess pitbull 515 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: ownership probably fifty to fifty Democrat and Republican. I would 516 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: get you know, you get into some of these, I 517 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: think that some of these, well, some pit bulls are 518 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: owned by minority groups. Is that what you're kind of 519 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: getting at with the disproportion pit bulls disproportionately Again, this 520 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: is very generally speaking, but disproportionately pit bulls tend to 521 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: have minority owners, which is also part of why sometimes 522 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: the discussion about pit bulls get so heated because people 523 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: feel very heated about their positions about you know, whether 524 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: these dogs are more of a public safety risk than 525 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: other dogs. So yeah, you know, because people feel like 526 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: they're being singled out or they're being called out for 527 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: their dog choice. I think, you know, doodles, like I said, 528 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: I found my producer Alli jumped in, totally true. No guy, 529 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: no like sing No guy's walking around with his doodle 530 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: who's single. There's always a girlfriend or a or you know, 531 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: or a husband whatever. But there's always another partner in 532 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: the mix for a guy walking in doodle. And then 533 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: you get into the more exotic pets where I think 534 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: that would be a tougher one to like if you happen. 535 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: To own more. 536 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: You know, ferret is a very popular pet, like a 537 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: large percentage of the people that don't have a dog 538 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: or a cat. Ferret, I think for a mammal is 539 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: number number three or number four most common pet. I've 540 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: actually done some research into this because I kind of 541 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: wanted to get a pet fox for a while, but 542 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: I've since found out they stink and they like they 543 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: actually scent everything, and they want to dig through your 544 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: your living room floor, so that's not good. But yeah, 545 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people have ferrets. Do you know there's 546 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: more tigers in Texas than in the wild. We're turning 547 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: into the kid from Jeremy, but you know that you 548 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: would Headleighs eight pounds. I mean, you're talking about this 549 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: is a this is a stat that is accurate as 550 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: stats should be. There are more tigers in captivity in 551 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: Texas than tigers that live in the wild. That's a 552 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: pretty that's a pretty wild stat. 553 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so it ties in because. 554 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: Your point on I'm thinking about how many mammals are 555 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: actually pets, right, obviously dogs, cats, I would have not 556 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: guessed that ferret is on the top of any of these. 557 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: I wonder how ferret voters would What do you think 558 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: snake owners snake Ownerkamala, I'm sure we have a couple 559 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: of wonderful, patriotic snake owners listening. I think snake owners 560 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: break for Democrat eighty percent. I actually I don't know 561 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: that I disagree, but I'm trying to think through do 562 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: you think male The only thing that I would push 563 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: back on there is potentially I tend to think men 564 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: have more snakes than more snakes than women do. 565 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 2: I don't know. 566 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, but if I've ever been on a 567 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: date and the woman said I have a pet snake 568 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: at home, I was like, I don't know, if there's 569 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: a second date, I wouldn't date. I wouldn't date a 570 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: woman who was at a pet snake. I've said this before, 571 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: Like she would have to be so incredibly hot in 572 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: order for me to even be willing to I wouldn't 573 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: be able to sleep at night. If you, snakes always 574 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: get out, this is they're always like hey, I never 575 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: would have thought, you know, how do this? Everyone who 576 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: has a snake, the snake escapes the cage, the the 577 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: the captivity. At some point and is just loose and 578 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,479 Speaker 1: I had you know, I had a nightmare the other night. 579 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: Buck woke up screaming, woke my wife up, wife up 580 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: because I was dreaming that I was about to be 581 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: struck by a rattlesnake. I'm very anti snake. I have 582 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: a lot of nightmares about snakes. I don't like them. Uh, 583 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: they make me uncomfortable even thinking about them. So the 584 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: idea that someone would have a snake and I would 585 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: be in that house, I couldn't do it. I wouldn't 586 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 1: do it. I wouldn't I wouldn't stand. I would cancel 587 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: that relationship immediately. This is how comfortable we are with 588 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: this audience. Clay is now sharing his dreams about snakes. 589 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: I woke my wife up screaming that I was about 590 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: to be eaten by a about to be struck by 591 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: Ali points out Ali. Ali's always producer. Alley's always got 592 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: your back. She points out right away that you know 593 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: the weakness, the the kryptonite of Indiana Jones if you will. 594 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 2: Oh, that's true. So you're in good company with that one. Uh, 595 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: you're in good company either. 596 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: More. I've seen and been around alligators. By the alligator's 597 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: doing but I think alligators are kind of cool. I've 598 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: seen a fair amount of alligators now since they moved 599 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: to Florida. Snakes, though, still freak me out a little bit. 600 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: And they're an invasive species down here. The Burmese python 601 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: big problem, so people have to go. Do you see 602 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: the megaviral clip of the alligator carrying the insanely large python. 603 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: I think it was in the Everglades? Yes. Yeah. That 604 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: concept of. 605 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: This is like when kids sit around and one day 606 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: we'll be having these conversations with your soon to be 607 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: son a lot. 608 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 2: I've had them a lot over the years. 609 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: Boys in particular like to just sit around and think 610 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: about which animal would win if two animals fight. I mean, 611 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: it is a never ending concept that. 612 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: They did that. 613 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: On the Joe Rogan Show, Joe Rogan started talk. I 614 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: saw this was he's like a gorilla or a bear? 615 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: You know. They had this old conversation. 616 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: So the but the video of the alligator carrying the 617 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: huge python, I don't reckon. I don't know that we 618 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: have seen an invasive species like the python in modern 619 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: American history. It's taken over in the Everglades. I mean, 620 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: there are tens of big problems for native now for 621 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: native species, yeah, you know it'll eit. 622 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the bird eggs. 623 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: The problem for alligators actually they'll they'll constrict and then 624 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: and then eat smaller alligators. Let's get into the Christmas 625 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: stuff here in the mailbag for a second. 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I don't even think True Lies 635 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: is like top fifteen or twenty. 636 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: I get take it up with the VIP Paul. 637 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna feel a little, a little, a 638 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: little burned right now by this one. 639 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 2: I don't know. 640 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: True Lies doesn't make the top the top list for me. 641 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: I will say it was the only thing I've ever 642 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 1: seen Roseanne's ex husband in where I thought he was good. 643 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: Uh you know what I mean. What's that guy's name, 644 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: Tom Arnold? Tom Arnold Tom Allen, whoa Tom Allen? Yes, yeah, 645 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: Jack writes in I thumb up, thump, Sorry, I give 646 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: a thumbs up to Bill O'Reilly's comment on the Alastair 647 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: sim version being the best. Have watched it annually for decades, 648 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: still brings a smile at the end. I'm adding this 649 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: to my list, Clay, I think a great version of 650 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: a Christmas Carol would be a lot of fun. This 651 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: is a good one and I should have thought of it. 652 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: Mark writes in Best Action Movie, hands down, Braveheart, Mel Gibson, 653 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: this is I consider that his your that's my favorite 654 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: movie of all time. But I consider that historical, historical epic, 655 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: not an action movie, as too much of the history. Yeah, yeah, 656 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: so that's the yeah. 657 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 2: Gladiator. 658 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Gladiators historical epic because it's really I mean, 659 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: some of these movies we're talking about, like if you 660 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: watch Commando or Predator, some of the Stallone and Schwarzenegger stuff, 661 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: the whole movie is just an excuse for action, Like 662 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: there's no real plot or dialogue worthy of the name. 663 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: So I think those other movies. In Braveheart won Best Picture, 664 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: Gladiator won Best Picture. So to me, those are historical epics. Now, 665 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: Rambo wasn't nominated for Best Picture, even as fine of 666 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: a film as it was. Yes, and neither was Commando. 667 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: Even though you can watch that movie one hundred times, 668 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: it never gets old. Haven At Merry Christmas, everybody. We'll 669 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: be talking to you more obviously tomorrow, rest of this week. 670 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: Play's actually got you solo on Friday, but send us 671 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: Christmas thoughts, Christmas cheer, all the above, talk back on 672 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: the iHeart app if you want to do that, And Yeah, 673 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm 674 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: Gonna go Hi to Ginger check them so it's gonna 675 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 2: be fun.