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Speaker 1: am here on the two hundred and forty onest year

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Speaker 1: gonna have, for one thing, your intelligence on North Korea

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Speaker 1: is going to be entirely imagery, maybe some signals intelligence.

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Speaker 1: that because the dictator, Because Kim Jong lun has such

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Speaker 1: a small circle of people around him. He's not he's

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Speaker 1: not he's making all the decisions himself or in a

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Speaker 1: very small group of people. And so getting access to

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Speaker 1: them in a place where we don't even have diplomatic relations,

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Speaker 1: it's virtually impossible unless you're going to meet them when

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Speaker 1: like the North Korean ambassador to Great Britain defected like

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Speaker 1: a year or two ago, Okay, Great but the bottom

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Speaker 1: line is he actually cannot provide not much information because

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Speaker 1: So your human sources are going to be very, very limited,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to rely on your electronics intelligence,

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Speaker 1: specifically using imagery. And that's how we know, for instance,

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Speaker 1: that they were getting ready for um, they were getting

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Speaker 1: ready for a a launch coming up, although we didn't

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Speaker 1: know the date. But the problem is with all kinds

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Speaker 1: of electronic intelligence, it there's one thing it can never do.

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Speaker 1: It can never give you the intentions of the enemy. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we don't we need it. I don't

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Speaker 1: think we need it. But you don't know if an

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Speaker 1: invasion is next or not unless you've got a guy

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Speaker 1: that is That's what I'm getting at here is how

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Speaker 1: how many uh different presidential administrations do we have to

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Speaker 1: go through before somebody says enough is enough, that they're

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Speaker 1: going too far and we have to go and take

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Speaker 1: care of this problem now. I mean, listen, if I

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Speaker 1: would have been elected president, I'm not saying I'm a

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump supporter, and I don't want anybody think that

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Speaker 1: I'm coming down on President Trump for this, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not politically correct in the majority of things I do.

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Speaker 1: That's why I only lasted at CNN for a little

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Speaker 1: bit of time before they stopped using me. But I

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Speaker 1: you know, I would have talked to my Department Defense

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Speaker 1: and the day I was elected, while sworn in, while

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Speaker 1: would have had the bombs raining down on North Korea.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just think, if you're gonna hit them,

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Speaker 1: you gotta hit them with surprise. And you have to

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Speaker 1: make a commitment. I say this over and over again.

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Speaker 1: I know you know this. If you're going to commit

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Speaker 1: to the fight, if you're going to get in the fight,

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Speaker 1: you have to commit to the fight. And that's the

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Speaker 1: or all these other groups, is that they're politically committed.

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Speaker 1: They're not committed to the fight, right and some in

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Speaker 1: a war, and if there were such, if we decided

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Speaker 1: on some kind of preemptive strike against North Korea, it

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Speaker 1: would have to be literally a lightning war. It would

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Speaker 1: have to be very quick with everything we've got, because

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Speaker 1: not only would you have to cut cut the head

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Speaker 1: off the leadership, but you'd also have to start taking

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Speaker 1: out their missile sites. And now that they have mobile launchers,

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Speaker 1: people have seen those on. Listeners have seen those on

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Speaker 1: in the parades. Those big you know, eighteen wheelers that

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Speaker 1: way fifty tons. Those things are going to be very

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Speaker 1: hard to find. Our US forces found out in ninety

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Speaker 1: one during the Gulf War. I was over there and

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Speaker 1: we spent a lot of our used a lot of

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Speaker 1: our assets just looking for scud launchers in the desert,

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Speaker 1: which was fewer you elements, we could bring up against

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Speaker 1: Saddam himself. So this is the same kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: It's very smart play by Um young un. But it's

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Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be really hard to take out mobile launchers.

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Speaker 1: And the longer we wait, the more it's gonna make

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Speaker 1: a military campaign even more difficult. So I'm gonna keep

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Speaker 1: you on over the break, Scott, and we'll come back.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna go to break here just a second.

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Speaker 1: Eight sorry, let me go over the phone number again

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Speaker 1: here really real fasts eight hundred nine four one seven

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Speaker 1: three to six. That's eight one sean and they can

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Speaker 1: find you on Twitter at the station Chief. Is that correct?

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Speaker 1: That's right? And I have a weekly podcast at the

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Speaker 1: station Chief dot Com. We talked about all kinds of

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Speaker 1: things like this. I have to have you on as

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Speaker 1: a guest. You definitely will Okay, we're gonna go to break.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter Jake William underscore Seal

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Speaker 1: and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam. Remember my show

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Speaker 1: The Experts is broadcast nightly nine pm every week night

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Speaker 1: live on Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, so check that out.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come back. We're gonna wrap this up. Scott

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Speaker 1: and I are gonna we're gonna solve this North Korea problem.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. This is Jonathan gill I'm filling

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Speaker 1: in for Shawn Handy. I'm filling in. Don't freak out.

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Speaker 1: Shawn's on vacation. He's got to have a day off

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Speaker 1: every now and then. Eight hundred nine four one seven,

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Speaker 1: three to six. If you don't call in, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: send our troops out there to come get you. So

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Speaker 1: you better call in eight hundred nine four one seven

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Speaker 1: three to six, and you can find me on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Jay Gilliam Underscore Sealing on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam.

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Speaker 1: I'll keep saying that over and over until you add

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Speaker 1: me and uh. Also joining me on the phone again

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Speaker 1: is Scott you Linger. He's a former CIA Stations Chief,

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Speaker 1: Station chief and operations officer and we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: North Korea issue. Your predictions, Uh, Scott, from a an

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Speaker 1: operator's standpoint, know what's effective, but you know politics because

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Speaker 1: the c I A. I don't think most people realize

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Speaker 1: how uh embroiled operations officers are with with politics. And

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Speaker 1: what is your prediction? What is going to happen with

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Speaker 1: North Korea? Are we ever going to fix this problem? Well,

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Speaker 1: that's a hard question. The UM I think that it's

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Speaker 1: gonna the problem is going to continue to I think

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Speaker 1: limp along for a couple I mean, we've got to

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Speaker 1: do We've got to be the due diligence. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: try to work on sanctions again with Russia China. Now

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Speaker 1: hopefully maybe Trump would get some kind of signal this

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Speaker 1: week on on where they're gonna go with the U

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Speaker 1: N you know, because they're having a Security Council meeting

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Speaker 1: as we shouldpeak. So I think they're going to try

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Speaker 1: to enact those those things but we're going to reach

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Speaker 1: the point, and it may take a year, it may

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Speaker 1: take eight months. We're going to reach the point where

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Speaker 1: we perhaps cannot afford to not take action because now

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Speaker 1: there's rumors, now, there's reports now that the North Koreans

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Speaker 1: have an electromagnetic pulse weapon, which means you could put

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Speaker 1: a new up into the air over California at you know,

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Speaker 1: ten miles up and knock out all the electronics between

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Speaker 1: California and um the Rocky Mountains. So so that's even

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Speaker 1: could be more devastating to our population than a nuclear blast.

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Speaker 1: So where is the point where you realize you have

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Speaker 1: to hit him before he hits you? And I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, in a year, we may have reached that point.

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Speaker 1: And I'm and I mean, my timing may be off

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Speaker 1: and may try out to be sooner than that. If

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Speaker 1: if they you know, if the sanctions don't seem to

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Speaker 1: have any you know, purchase, they don't seem to have

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Speaker 1: any bite to them, you know. So I mean this

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Speaker 1: this is a very serious problem that you know, the press,

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Speaker 1: in their chasing after imaginary unicorns like Russian collusion at all,

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Speaker 1: they're not concentrating in this. This is something the American

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Speaker 1: people need to understand about what is happening in the world,

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Speaker 1: not all of these the speak news stuff. You know.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna have James O'Keeffe on at five

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Speaker 1: thirty to talk about this seeing and stuff. But you

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Speaker 1: make a good point there, because the reality is the

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Speaker 1: media has they always talk about the Russians. That this

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Speaker 1: is CNN and MSNBC. They're talking about how the Russians

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Speaker 1: did this affect the the the election or that. But

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Speaker 1: the fact is the mainstream media has probably caused more

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Speaker 1: people to sway a vote based on lies more than

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Speaker 1: any any other entity in the world. That's certainly true,

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Speaker 1: that's right, and they distract us from issues that Americans

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Speaker 1: really need to understand about what is going on in

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Speaker 1: our world, not what they think is important, which is

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Speaker 1: always involving them for something like now, right now, they're

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Speaker 1: chasing after a fifteen year old for um, you know,

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Speaker 1: posting um, some unflattering CNN comments. You know, well, the

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Speaker 1: world needs to worry about more serious things than than

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Speaker 1: than what happened to that poor kids. God, I gotta go,

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Speaker 1: I got I got one minute left, But I just

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Speaker 1: want to ask you one question, Um, do you see

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Speaker 1: subversive characteristics in the mainstream media and the way in

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Speaker 1: the way they collude with the Democratic Party. Oh, there's

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Speaker 1: there's no question. There's no question about that. You know,

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Speaker 1: I lived in the former Soviet Union for twelve years

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Speaker 1: and so h and I have not only lived there

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Speaker 1: and experienced it and recruited Russians, but I've read all

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Speaker 1: my Russian history. I know how Russians intelligence services act.

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Speaker 1: I know how they try to form opinions. They try

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Speaker 1: to change the narrative in a given country when they're like,

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Speaker 1: you know whatever, subverting Hungary or Poland. But in cold

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Speaker 1: board days. But if this is right out of but

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Speaker 1: if you took Russia out of that and put in

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Speaker 1: their IMMAs mainstream media, you get the same thing. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go, brother, Uh you got it. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for being on happy belighted Independence Day. The calling number

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Speaker 1: eight D nine four one, seven, three to six. Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Gillen back in the house, filling in for Sean Hannity

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Speaker 1: as he's out enjoying his life for a change. That

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Speaker 1: guy works more than just about anybody I know. Of course,

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Speaker 1: wherever Sean is, so is his producer and everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Uh so it's a hard working radio show. These people

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Speaker 1: work hard to bring you the truth and u as

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Speaker 1: we are gonna be taking calls here after four thirty

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Speaker 1: working to get you a little bit of stage time

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Speaker 1: as well. That calling number is eight hundred nine four

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Speaker 1: one seven three to six eight hundred nine four one sean. Now, listen, folks,

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Speaker 1: if you are I said this earlier and I really

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Speaker 1: mean it now. If you're driving down the road, you

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Speaker 1: do not want to change the channel. If you just

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Speaker 1: pulled in your into your garage or your driveway and

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Speaker 1: you're sitting there, don't do not turn the channel. And

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Speaker 1: if you're at home, get your kids, because you're gonna

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Speaker 1: want to hear what we're gonna talk about. Now. Joining

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Speaker 1: me is David Horowitz, I got. I've interviewed David a

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Speaker 1: couple of times. He is just an amazing guy. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think probably so somebody better than just about anybody

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Speaker 1: else in radio that can speak to subversion and the

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Speaker 1: communist agenda. He's author of the Big Agenda, President Trump's

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Speaker 1: plan to save America. And you know, David, it's always

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Speaker 1: good to hear you speak because you are somebody I'm

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Speaker 1: big on people who have experienced I'm big on listening

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Speaker 1: to people who have been there and done that, not

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Speaker 1: these talking heads that we see on television that are

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Speaker 1: slinging propaganda like something out of a communist movie. So

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Speaker 1: I'm reading this article that Lauren gave to me about

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Speaker 1: that the German soldiers are told the German military has

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Speaker 1: warned its soldiers not to wear uniforms during the G

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Speaker 1: twenty summit in Hamburg out of fears they might get

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Speaker 1: attacked by violent left wing extremists. That comes from the

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Speaker 1: Daily Caller. So obviously what we're seeing with these leftists

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Speaker 1: in this country is a global problem. And my question

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Speaker 1: to you is when you know, when you were rolling

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Speaker 1: with the communist in your in that period of time

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Speaker 1: in your life, did you ever see this as something

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Speaker 1: that was going to be a global issue or was

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Speaker 1: this more of a focus on the nation at that

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Speaker 1: time or everything left is global? I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: a it's a missionary movement trying to change the world,

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Speaker 1: that has changed America. But they see they hate America

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Speaker 1: because they see America as as the guardian of the

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Speaker 1: status quo of the world is that it exists. But

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Speaker 1: every leftist is driven by one powerful emotion which is hate. Um.

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Speaker 1: Just think of the I've actually discussed this in my book,

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Speaker 1: Big Agenda. Um. And the second presidential debate, Trump turned

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Speaker 1: to the fifty billion people in the television audience and said,

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Speaker 1: you have to understand Hillary, has he then this hatred

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Speaker 1: in her heart? No other Republican would say that because

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Speaker 1: Hillary is a woman, and I would. They wouldn't accuse

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Speaker 1: a woman of being consumed with hate. But what was

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Speaker 1: he talking about? Trump? He was talking about her remark

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Speaker 1: that his support has belonged in the basket of deplorable

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Speaker 1: and irredeemable, the damned. And then she named them racist, sexist, homophoones, islamophoones, xenophones.

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Speaker 1: All of those terms are designed to read you out

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Speaker 1: of the human race, unfit even to be taught to

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Speaker 1: let alone to be president. But every Democrats, every progressive,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say every Democrats, but everybody who's on the

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Speaker 1: progressive left. Caase that way. If you if you're a

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Speaker 1: conservative and have been in an argument with the so

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Speaker 1: called liberal about policy, health policy, what ever it is,

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Speaker 1: immigration policy, you know you've been called a racist, the sexist,

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Speaker 1: the hope of fold or in islama fold. And that's

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Speaker 1: because the left is really uh, it's a secular religion.

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Speaker 1: It's based on the Christian model that the world is

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Speaker 1: a fallen place. They don't use terms like that, but

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Speaker 1: you know, cor corrupt oppression. The world is a it's

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Speaker 1: a world of oppression, and they're gonna liberate everybody, and

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Speaker 1: they believe in a redemption which is social justice or socialism.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're going to institute The first time I

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Speaker 1: see them, they see themselves as the Party of the Saint,

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Speaker 1: the Army of the Things. The first time I interviewed you, um,

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Speaker 1: I also watched a video on Newsmax that was talking

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Speaker 1: about Lennen or about Marx, Lenin Stalling and Choky and

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Speaker 1: the way that the way that they described um, their

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Speaker 1: vision of communism, the way you're describing it right now,

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Speaker 1: I had never actually, you know, I studied political science.

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Speaker 1: I've read about communism, but I never had seen what

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Speaker 1: you talked about, which is this it's very similar to

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Speaker 1: the ideology of fundamental Islam in that if they if

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Speaker 1: you're not a believer, and they kill you, they're actually

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Speaker 1: doing you a favor and go ahead. And I wrote

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Speaker 1: I learned a whole book on this stuff called the

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Speaker 1: Holy Alliance. You have to ask you, So, how is

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Speaker 1: it that leftist can be in bed with you know,

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Speaker 1: our supportive of UH Islamist who despised who despised women

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Speaker 1: and kill games and so forth. And it's because they're

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Speaker 1: both me deeming the world. They say they are human

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Speaker 1: beings who are going to purify the world and get

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Speaker 1: rid of all of the the unclean and the sinful,

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Speaker 1: which is us. And I'm not talking just about Boxton Lennon.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Hillary Clinton, Hillison and Nancy Pelosi and

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer. He's I hate hate filled people, that's all.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Sessions one of the most decent human beings in

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Speaker 1: the United States Senate and if you look at his

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Speaker 1: record a champion of civil rights, he prosecuted the Kupux

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Speaker 1: place in a Deep Sound state where he was attorney

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Speaker 1: general as he segregated the schools, and yet they called

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Speaker 1: him a racist, knowing that he wasn't. How hateful is last? Well,

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Speaker 1: what I'm seeing what's so interesting is that this exactly

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Speaker 1: what you just how you describe them. They actually criticize Christians,

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Speaker 1: mainly Christians UM for wanting to better the world and

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Speaker 1: UH and and then they criticize conservatives for their freethinking

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Speaker 1: and their love of the Constitution and our constitutional rights.

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Speaker 1: It is so amazingly um subversive. It's so it's so

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Speaker 1: um fake when that when you see it, when you

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Speaker 1: actually get it, which I finally did get it, it

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Speaker 1: is unbelievable how much you see it permeating everything in

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Speaker 1: this country. The question I have for you, because we

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Speaker 1: could go on all day talking about the family tree

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Speaker 1: of this uh of this subversion that you have the politicians,

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Speaker 1: the big money people, you have the people in the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party establishment. You have the media activist UM and

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Speaker 1: and so on, ESPN, Hollywood, all in bed together spreading

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Speaker 1: this and developing these robots like the Antifa and the

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Speaker 1: people in Berkeley and causing problems all of the country.

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Speaker 1: The question I have for you is a similar to

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Speaker 1: a question that I asked Scott you Linger about North

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Speaker 1: Korea and how we do with that in the last segment.

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Speaker 1: How do we deal with this? How does sink because

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Speaker 1: we can't count on the the the politicians and the leaders,

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Speaker 1: the managers of this country fix it. How do we

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Speaker 1: face this the American people and prepare ourselves. There are

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Speaker 1: two figures who do it really well. One of them

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Speaker 1: is Donald Trump and the other is Bloanapolis. It just

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Speaker 1: has a book out called Dangerous and And what Bilo

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Speaker 1: says is that what you do is you provoked them,

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Speaker 1: and when they react, if you have to go in

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Speaker 1: their face. That that's the basic thing. The Trump look

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Speaker 1: Hillary of the eye in those debates and said you

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Speaker 1: are a liar and a crook. No Republican would ever

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Speaker 1: do that because she's a woman, and they're deferential and

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Speaker 1: they're in the chains of what's called political correctness. But

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Speaker 1: I call the party line. It's the communist party line.

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Speaker 1: But you're not allowed to say that because she's a woman.

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Speaker 1: So she hides behind the fact that she's a woman

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Speaker 1: while proclaiming she's liberating women, she's a strong woman. And

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Speaker 1: how do how do people defend against that? Because what

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Speaker 1: happens is they get vilfied, people get they get vivified. Look,

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Speaker 1: if you're afraid of being vilified, don't don't even get

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Speaker 1: involved in politics. Because the left has only one weapon,

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Speaker 1: its character assassination. They call everybody a racist that disagrees

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Speaker 1: with them. They have no scruple, they have no compunction.

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Speaker 1: Look at what the I mean they called Trump maybe

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Speaker 1: he's out of his mind, that the Democrats are actually

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Speaker 1: uh promoting this idea that that Trump should be removed

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Speaker 1: under the amendment. The twenty fifth Amendment was an amendment

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Speaker 1: designed for a situation nation as what happened to John F. Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: Suppose he had been shot in the head. Supposed he

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Speaker 1: had survived, but had been incapacitated. That's what the twenty

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Speaker 1: Amendment is for. If you remember what the Communists did

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Speaker 1: in the Soviet Union, people who were dissenters, dissidents, people

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Speaker 1: who disagreed with the party, they put an insane asylum.

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Speaker 1: It's the same mentality that Democrats would go that far

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Speaker 1: trying to remove Trump under Graham's that he's incapacitated as

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Speaker 1: though he was shot at the head. Um shows they

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Speaker 1: have no principles left. Their hatred his chest consumed them.

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Speaker 1: And the only way to fight this is to go

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Speaker 1: right in their face. I mean, I I in my

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Speaker 1: book big agenda, I you know, give example, the biggest

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Speaker 1: one is that the Democrats are racists. They control every

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Speaker 1: inner city of any size in America, every killing field, Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, Ferguson,

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Speaker 1: Baltimore one controlled by the Democratic Party and has been

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Speaker 1: from fifty two one hundred years. Every injustice, every racial injustice,

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Speaker 1: if there are such in the inner cities, Democrats are

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Speaker 1: responsible for. They're the ones who released the criminals and

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Speaker 1: get them out on the streets so that they can

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Speaker 1: kill innocent people, mainly blacks. Publicans are too polite to

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Speaker 1: ever mention this. Yeah, I gotta Well, that's another problem

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Speaker 1: that we don't have time to discuss. But I'll actually

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Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit later because that's a

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Speaker 1: big problem here. Now, I got thirty seconds for you,

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Speaker 1: and just real quick, what would if you had to

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Speaker 1: tell the American people the American people are, They're on

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Speaker 1: social media, They're on Facebook, Twitter, How do they unite?

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Speaker 1: In other words, they left is very very efficient at uniting.

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Speaker 1: Real quick, thirty seconds, How did the people unite? Well,

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Speaker 1: they're never gonna mark and love step like the left

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Speaker 1: are too civilized. But I think the rallying cry has

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Speaker 1: got to always beat freedom. Left is it it's an

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Speaker 1: assault on individual freedom. And let's it treat you according

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Speaker 1: to your race, your gender, uh, your social class. That's

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Speaker 1: the way they don't see you as an individual. Um Obamacare. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it costs too much. Yeah they lied about it. But

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Speaker 1: the biggest evil of Obamacare is it takes away your

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Speaker 1: freedom control your healthcare. You have to take the government taket.

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Speaker 1: They tell you what to do. Yeah, listen, I gotta go.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I can't thank you. Know. I

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Speaker 1: really thoroughly enjoy interviewing you. David Horowitz, author of The

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Speaker 1: Big Agenda, President Trump's Plan to Save America. Go out

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Speaker 1: and get that book, David. I just gotta tell you.

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Speaker 1: I know you went down that road of communism, but

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Speaker 1: your voice, the American public needs to hear it more.

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Speaker 1: And I thank you for for what you do for

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Speaker 1: the American people. Now, this is Jonathan Gilham. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter Jay Gilliam Underscore Seal, and on

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Speaker 1: Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam. Don't forget. I have a

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Speaker 1: show called The Experts that I do every night nine

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Speaker 1: pm at Eastern Standard time on Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube

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Speaker 1: simulcasts on all of them. I'm sitting there working all

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Speaker 1: kinds of knobs and bells and whistles while I talk.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, but I would love to have you be

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Speaker 1: a part of it and join in the dialogue. I agree. Uh,

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Speaker 1: We're never gonna be like the left where we unify

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Speaker 1: quite the way they do. Because they're unified under hatred.

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Speaker 1: We have to unify under freedom. Call it number eight

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Speaker 1: hundred nine for one seven three to six nine one. Sean,

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Speaker 1: it's Jonathan T. Guilm filling in for Shawan Hannity while

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Speaker 1: he's on vacation. We will be right back. This is

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gilham filling in for Sean Hannity on the Shawn

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Speaker 1: Hannity Radio Show. Man, I'll tell you what you put

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Speaker 1: on anything that has the fiddle on it, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do one of two things. I'm gonna start talking

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Speaker 1: or I'm gonna start dancing. I'm just kidding. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what I'm going with that, but anyway, listen, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna come back here just a minute, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: play a SoundBite that you have heard a dozen times

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Speaker 1: on this show probably you know where, where it's all

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Speaker 1: the SNN and all the mainstream media people talking about

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Speaker 1: how bad President Trump is, this and that, pointing all

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Speaker 1: these things out. What I want to do, though, is

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Speaker 1: I want to go through it piece by piece and

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Speaker 1: kind of discuss the people that are actually saying these

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Speaker 1: things because listen, here's my goal now that um, I'm

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Speaker 1: not in official service anymore. I've I've ticked off CNN

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Speaker 1: enough where they don't have me on there anymore. I

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Speaker 1: it was the most vile um part thing I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was like being around a bunch of

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Speaker 1: uh so listen, uh, there's no no love lost there.

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Speaker 1: I didn't, I wouldn't. I did not want to to

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Speaker 1: stay with them if they weren't. They paid me for

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Speaker 1: while I'm writing books and uh you know, and doing

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Speaker 1: all the things that I've been doing, I was able

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Speaker 1: to build up my show the experts. Uh I let

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Speaker 1: them pay me. But anyway, enough about those activists. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna come back. I'm gonna take your calls. Eight hundred

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back. I'm gonna dissect this sound bite

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Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna take your calls. Look, if you're

851
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Speaker 1: liberal and you disagree with what I'm saying, the American

852
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: people need to hear what you think because quite frankly,

853
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: you're wrong. And uh and I love talking to people

854
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: when they're a long But listen, I'm not a mean guy.

855
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go off on you. Eight hundred nine

856
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Speaker 1: for one, seven, three to six, will be right back.

857
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Speaker 1: You know you never want to miss the sea, and

858
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Speaker 1: now you never have to. Just sign up for Hannity Headlines,

859
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Speaker 1: bite sized version of the show that you can take

860
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Speaker 1: with you on your laptop, your mobile phone everywhere you go,

861
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: even until your liberal in law's place in Vermont. So

862
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: um yeah, and after a few hours of that, you'll

863
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Speaker 1: be glad you've brought Shawn along. To sign up today

864
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Speaker 1: for Hannity Headlines, go to Hannity dot com. So I

865
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Speaker 1: want to know. This is Jonathan gill And filling in

866
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Speaker 1: for Sean Hannity. You find me on Twitter Jake Gilliam

867
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Speaker 1: Underscore cealing on Facebook at Jonathan T. William. I have

868
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Speaker 1: a show every night called The Experts. It's on nine

869
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: pm Eastern Standard time. I do the simulcast on Facebook,

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00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 1: Twitter and YouTube. Can't get for a kid. They don't

871
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: want to give a show to somebody on mainstream media

872
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: that tells the true. So listen, I'm just utilizing the

873
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Speaker 1: leftist uh stages that they've given us to pump it

874
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Speaker 1: out so everybody can here. So joining the dillar. But

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Speaker 1: here's one we know who Who's who added the chicken

876
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: sound into that intro. I like that. Being from the South,

877
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Speaker 1: I love it. Our sound guy, your sound guy in that. Yeah,

878
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: I like that. Listen. I love when Scott Shannon talks

879
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: and he talks about the revolution. This is what I

880
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: always say when I'm on here. We need a revolve

881
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: alution the left. The left needs to be uh defeated.

882
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: They need to go away. I'm not talking about liberal

883
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: minded people like Rick Unger, my friend, and I have

884
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: other friends like that. I'm talking about the leftist I'm

885
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 1: talking about the communist sympathizers. I'm talking about the Islamic

886
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: fundamentalists that are intertwined with these people in their subversive ways.

887
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about mainstream media, Hollywood and all these people

888
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: that and dctrinate our children from grade school through television,

889
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: they get into college, and they just turned them into

890
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: liberal robots. I keep getting I love when I host

891
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: this show and I talked about the leftist because I

892
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: end up getting emails on my uh my uh website

893
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: Jonathan T. Gilliam dot com, and uh they're always the

894
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: same thing, and there's a different way that they say

895
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: it every time. Now it's dumb dumb. They're calling me

896
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: dumb dumb uh as they email me. But let's here's

897
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: what I want to do. I'm gonna have Ian play uh, Ethan, sorry,

898
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Speaker 1: play the Ian. I don't know. I just called you.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to call you. I'm gonna call you something

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00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: else here in a minute. More So, let's I'm gonna

901
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: have Ethan play this sound bite that you hear a

902
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: lot on here and and we're gonna pause it and

903
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: go through it step by step and just talk about

904
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: the individuals, uh that that are speaking. So let's go

905
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: and plays. It's a It is a weird tension, I think,

906
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: with the dangerous time for the First Amendment and for

907
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: the free press in this country, and at the same time,

908
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: we're oddly influential with the guy who wants to kill us.

909
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: Okay that that right there is Rachel Maddow from MSNBC,

910
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: which Rachel Maddow has become. Uh, and I like Caraldo Rivera.

911
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: I like Caral the river. She's become the modern day

912
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: Heraldo Rivera where she just goes after empty saves over

913
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: and over again, trying to get ratings. Uh. It's it's

914
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: empty safes of arguments and stuff. And you can tell

915
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: that the MSNBC and all these other people are trying

916
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: to jump on the coat tails of CNN in this

917
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: uh their failed rush. They owned the airwaves over this

918
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: Russian uh collusion nonsense for the longest time, getting all

919
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: these people believe it. It got discredited now by James

920
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: O'Keefe will be on here at five thirty. And now

921
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: what we have is all these other people jump on

922
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: a bangwagon. That's Rachel Mattos. Let's go the next person.

923
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: Our detractors that insist that this march will never add

924
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: up to anything, thank you you. But this is the

925
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: hallmark of revolution. Yes, I'm angry, Yes I am outraged. Yes,

926
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Speaker 1: I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the

927
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Speaker 1: White House. So I've thought a lot about um not

928
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: blowing stuff up. I did that when I was I

929
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: got to blow plenty of stuff up. I will tell

930
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: you this, it's fun. Blowing stuff up is fun, especially

931
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Speaker 1: when it's paid for by the government. It's a good

932
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Speaker 1: time being on the range. Um. What I've thought about

933
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Speaker 1: a lot is why Madonna, who that was? First of all,

934
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Speaker 1: how she could be a mentor to anybody and people

935
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Speaker 1: would want to listen to her. I don't talk about

936
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Speaker 1: people's looks, um, I don't discuss whether or not somebody

937
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: is pretty or overweighting that stuff. People have their own

938
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Speaker 1: things in life they have to deal with. But she

939
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: is an ugly person. She's a disgusting person, not somebody

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00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: that I would ever invite into my house. Which is

941
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: so crazy about this, folks, that you allow this nonsense

942
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: into your house via the air waves for years and years,

943
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: she has been around for too long, and quite frankly,

944
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: who cares what she has to say. She's never served

945
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: anything but her self. I guarantee you she got off

946
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 1: that stage after being paid and she went back into

947
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: her life of whatever she wants, she gets. She's not angry.

948
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: She gets whatever she wants, trust me. The only thing

949
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: she's angry about is she can't stop herself from getting older,

950
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: and so she's not gonna be accepted by the young people.

951
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: That's why she comes out and tries to kip. Let's

952
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: go to the next one. I had a dream the

953
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: other night about that I was playing golf with Donald Trump,

954
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: but I was standing beside and with a club in

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Speaker 1: my hand, and I was, you know, considering my options

956
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Speaker 1: when I suddenly woke up. And it was one of

957
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: those dreams when you want to just get back to

958
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Speaker 1: sleep so you can finish it, and I so so.

959
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: Jim carey Um, whose girlfriend commits suicide largely in part

960
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: because of him, from what the reports I've heard, is

961
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: such a narcissist that he can't keep his mouth shut.

962
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: And here's another guy. He's made his career in life

963
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: by being what would have been considered five years ago

964
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: a joker in the king's court, and if he didn't

965
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: make the king laugh, he would have been killed. But

966
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: now he wants to defend tyranny. He wants to be

967
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: a part of it. This is how stupid these people are.

968
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: This guy is no different than a gesture, one of

969
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: those people jumping around with the bells hanging off his

970
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: head that you see on the deck of cards that

971
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 1: that's the one card that usually just throw away. That's

972
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey, somebody who in a second could have been

973
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: killed just simply because he wasn't funny. And yet that's

974
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: exactly the same type of leadership that he stands for.

975
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. I might have to put Mr Burgess

976
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: on Fox News. I'll put I'll put, I'll put Mr

977
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: Burgess up against Sean Hannity. How about we put you

978
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: in jail for breaking the law and going out and

979
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: representing the country when you're not a representative of the country,

980
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: which is against the law. The last time I checked

981
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: getting in the way of our president. I've said this

982
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: so many times, folks. These politicians are our biggest national

983
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: security threat and the policies that they put in. Thank goodness,

984
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: we have a president that came in and had the

985
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: wherewithal to step out of politics and systematically dissect the

986
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: monster that Obama had created. I just wish now President

987
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: Trump would flex a little bit of muscles and start

988
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: putting these people in jail. Are investigating them, well, turn

989
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: him up. I need you to go out and talk

990
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want

991
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: you to talk to them, whether they're independent or whether

992
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: they are Republicans. I want you to argue with him

993
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: and getting their faces press. Always ask me, don't I

994
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: wish I were debating him? No, I wish you were

995
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: in high school. I could take it behind the gym.

996
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: And what can you say that it's gonna make that

997
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: guy look any worse than he does himself. That's what

998
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: I wish. What we've got to do his fight in Congress,

999
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: fight in the courts, fight in the streets, fight online,

1000
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: fight at the ballot box. And now there's the momentum

1001
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: to be able to do this. Listen, I just want

1002
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: to get to the point where where you're for Lauren's

1003
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: favorite talks. Uh um, gosh, her name just Drup Maxine,

1004
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: Maxine Waters. Let's just get to that and then we'll

1005
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: go to the callers because we're gonna run out of

1006
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: time with TANNEL because people will die. This is deadly,

1007
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: this is deadly. You can't standing. I am your president

1008
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: is a dishonorable, lying man. Ordinary people who simply saw

1009
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: what needed to be done and came together and supported

1010
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: those ideals, who have made the difference. They've marched, they've led. Yes,

1011
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: some of them have died. This is hard. Every good

1012
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: thing is we have done this before, we can do

1013
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: this again. I don't respect this president. I don't trust

1014
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: this president. He's not working in the best stenches of

1015
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: the American people. His motives and his actions are contemptible,

1016
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: and I will fight every day until he is impeached.

1017
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: Five five, Oh my gosh, Listen, I don't know who's worse.

1018
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: Who the people that are responsible for electing that nonsense

1019
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: or the fact. I don't know. Listen, she's crazy, but

1020
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: at least somehow she's wound up in an elected office.

1021
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: So who's more crazy? Listen? I'm so glad that Dan

1022
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: called in. Let's go to Dan, who says he's a liberal. Dan,

1023
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: you say absolutely hilarious that you have the audacity to

1024
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: run that montage when you have a sitting president who

1025
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: called for violence at his rallied and offered to pay

1026
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,479
Speaker 1: legal fees, who can't stay off the Twitter, and talk

1027
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: about women and blood when you you work for You're

1028
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: just mixing it all in there together, aren't you? Go ahead?

1029
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 1: Stories all the time? Are you kidding me? Okay? So here,

1030
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,959
Speaker 1: So here's what I what I was asking for. A liberal,

1031
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: we call him for one. I want to show everybody

1032
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: the nonsensical verbiage that you all always go back to.

1033
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: There are literally calls for conservatives to be killed by

1034
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: individuals on the left. The day after assassination attempt on

1035
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: a congressman occurred in Washington, d C. By a liberal

1036
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: so and a and a supporter of Bernie Sanders, a socialist.

1037
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: So the fact that you call in Dan, which I'm

1038
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, I asked you to call in and you

1039
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: and you go on this same narrative of the Big Three.

1040
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you didn't say the thing about what happened

1041
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: on the bus under a hot mic. The fact is

1042
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: all those things have been either discredited or written up

1043
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: as the president is just a normal person and he

1044
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: has a right to defend himself. I eat Twitter and

1045
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: uh Joe Scarborough whose hair looks like a poopy emoj

1046
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: emoji on your phone. But I want you, I'm giving

1047
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: you the stage. We're gonna go back to you now.

1048
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me how what those people

1049
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: are saying in that SoundBite, and how the divisive structure

1050
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party, the way that they spew hate

1051
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: and threaten people and tell people that they can't have

1052
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: freedom of speech and that their freedoms in the Constitution

1053
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: don't matter. How is that beneficial for the country. That's

1054
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: what I want to know. All right, I'll answer that.

1055
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Speaker 1: Are you ready, I'm waiting, Okay, when you can tell

1056
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: me how I see? Okay, Okay, here here's the thing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna cut you your mike every

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Speaker 1: time you do this. I'm asking you, how is the

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Speaker 1: left and the communist ideology, socialist ideology, globalist ideology, hatred

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Speaker 1: of America, threatening of the president, threatening to blow up

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Speaker 1: the White House? How is that useful for the American

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Speaker 1: way of life? How is that useful for getting anything

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Speaker 1: done in uniting the people. I don't want to hear

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Speaker 1: about Ted Nugent or anybody else that's conservative. I'm asking you,

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Speaker 1: Dan who called in and said you're a liberal? How

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Speaker 1: is what the left doing bettering the country? How is

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Speaker 1: what's the left doing bettering the country? Or trying to

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Speaker 1: impeach in the illegitimate president. Who cannot say that you

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Speaker 1: can't then you can't. You cannot tell the American people

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Speaker 1: you're on a national stage. There's like seventeen million people

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Speaker 1: listening to you right now, and you can't formulate an

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Speaker 1: opinion or a SoundBite to show the American people exactly

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Speaker 1: what the left is doing that is benefiting the country.

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Speaker 1: You just go back to something like impeach and illegitimate present,

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Speaker 1: which he was elected legitimately. I'm gonna all right, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna cut the call. I'm gonna get well, let me

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Speaker 1: before Okay, I'm gonna give you one more chance. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you one more time, what is the left doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not asking what the right is not doing. I'm

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Speaker 1: asking what is the left doing to better the American

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Speaker 1: way of life? What is the communist? What is what

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Speaker 1: do the socialist? What do the people who consider themselves

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Speaker 1: uh anti fascists? What are they doing to better the country?

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Speaker 1: That's why I thought, all right, have a good day, Dan.

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Speaker 1: I think I think we pretty much solved that issue

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Speaker 1: right there, and so I'm not telling anybody anything that

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Speaker 1: they don't know. I'm sorry I went a little too

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Speaker 1: long in that monologue. So I will get to some

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Speaker 1: more your calls here and just a little bit. Just

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Speaker 1: stand if you're on hole, just stay there and we'll

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Speaker 1: come back and get to you. But here's what I

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01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: want you to do, Folks, start having dialogue. If you're

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01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: a liberal and you don't agree with this, you need

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01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: to start having dialogue. You need to start joining in

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01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: on the chats on my show The Experts every night

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01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: nine pm Eastern Standard Time, on Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.

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Speaker 1: You need to start standing up against any type of

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Speaker 1: divisive nature and start being a free thinker. This Jonathan T. Gilliam.

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Speaker 1: I hope that helped everybody see a little bit of

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Speaker 1: the way these dumb, dumb liberals think you can call

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Speaker 1: in eight hundred nine four one seven three to six,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred nine one seven three to six and coming

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Speaker 1: up next. I'm actually pretty excit. I don't get excited

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Speaker 1: very often by interviewing people, but I'm gonna be interviewing

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Speaker 1: Pat Buchanan next, and that is pretty cool. So let's

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Speaker 1: do that. We'll come back. I'm gonna we'll come back

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Speaker 1: for a little segment and then we'll do uh interview

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Speaker 1: Pat Buchanan at five o'clock Eastern Standard time. Stay tuned,

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Speaker 1: we'll be right back. This is Jonathan Gillham. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter. Jay Gilliam Underscore Sealing on Facebook

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01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: at Jonathan T. Gilliam, I'm gonna give out the phone

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Speaker 1: number again, eight hundred nine four one seven three to

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Speaker 1: six D one, Sean, We're gonna take another break. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna come back with Pat Buchanan. I'm excited about this

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Speaker 1: interview to actually get to talk to Mr Buchanan, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna continue this discussion about the reality of subversion

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Speaker 1: in this country and the reality of how politicians aren't

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Speaker 1: getting anything done. On the other hand, when we talked

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Speaker 1: to James O'Keefe a little bit later, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about how the media plays a huge role in the

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Speaker 1: collusion of really the communist movement in this country. I

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Speaker 1: know I keep saying that it's blowing people's minds, but

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Speaker 1: it's the truth, folks. The Communist Party is here. Jay

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Speaker 1: Gilliam underscore Seal on Twitter, Jonathan T. Gilliam on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Will be right back. This is Jonathan gill And filling

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Speaker 1: in for Sean Hannity. Two forty one plus one days.

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Speaker 1: This country has been around, and uh I've served this

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Speaker 1: country in the military as a seal, as a Federal

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Speaker 1: Air marshal flying on nine eleven, two thousand and two,

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Speaker 1: a year after the Twin Towers in the Pentagon were

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Speaker 1: hit in a plane crash in Pennsylvania, brought down by

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Speaker 1: terrorists that were allowed to flow into this country because

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Speaker 1: of bad policies. Now, when I started, when I got

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Speaker 1: out of the FBI. Later on, I went in the FBI,

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Speaker 1: and I got out of there, I started looking at

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Speaker 1: the reality of what's going on in this country, and

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Speaker 1: I was slapped in the face. Even though I studied

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Speaker 1: political science and psychology, I worked in the government, I

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Speaker 1: just did not see the reality of subversion because subversion

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Speaker 1: is not something we're taught. Uh, it's not something that

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Speaker 1: we study tremendously. In the Russian government during the Cold War,

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Speaker 1: every officer in the Russian government was taught about subversion

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Speaker 1: and how to do it. We don't even know that,

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Speaker 1: we don't even understand it. And uh, when Lauren told

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Speaker 1: me that my next guest, Pat Buchanan, who I've long

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Speaker 1: since wanted to meet, it was gonna be on and

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Speaker 1: I looked at that he had just written an article,

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Speaker 1: um uh, a column titled is America Still a Nation?

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Speaker 1: And it fit perfectly and what we were talking about today,

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Speaker 1: because I'm not sure where we're going in this country.

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Speaker 1: Pat Buchanan, thank you for joining me, and it's honored

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Speaker 1: to to get to interview you. Um, and I've been

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Speaker 1: watching you for years and years, and I've always agreed

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Speaker 1: with what you had to say and by and quite frankly,

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01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: you were one of the the first people that that

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Speaker 1: that the communists and the leftist actually really went after

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Speaker 1: hard in in mainstream media. And you've been dealing with

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Speaker 1: with this nonsense for a long time, a lot longer

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Speaker 1: than people who were hot on Twitter. Now, Well, thank you, Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate it very much, and thanks for all

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Speaker 1: you've done for your country and those two fine organizations,

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Speaker 1: the US military and Federal Deer of Investigation. Remember, as

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Speaker 1: a little kid, I used to read them. I had

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Speaker 1: an uncle up there who rose right up to be

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Speaker 1: right next to Hoover. I knew all those great stories

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Speaker 1: about John Dellinger and baby Face Nelson and all the round. Well,

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Speaker 1: you see that the FBI has gone down the same path, Um, like,

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Speaker 1: can you really should we be asking the question is

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Speaker 1: it the FBI anymore? Is it the d o J.

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Speaker 1: You've got a very good point there, Uh, I mean

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Speaker 1: the guys that I knew they were older than me

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Speaker 1: and everything, and they were uncles and older brothers and things.

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Speaker 1: They were normally patriotic World War two patriotic folks. But

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Speaker 1: what's happened? Uh? I think Jonathan and I've written about

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Speaker 1: many times. I sort of there's a revolution took place

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Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties, and it goes by various names,

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Speaker 1: and gold Troll Marxism and what is one of the names.

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Speaker 1: And it is basically an ideology that it really teaches

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Speaker 1: that the West is the great menace of mankind, that

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Speaker 1: it was born in an injustice and slavery and genocide

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Speaker 1: and evil, and that many of the so called achievements

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Speaker 1: of the West were the result of its crimes and sins,

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Speaker 1: and we really ought to look down upon it, and

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Speaker 1: we really ought to rid the We ought to be

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Speaker 1: happy the world is rid of the kind of peoples

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Speaker 1: who created our nation. It's an astonishing thing. But this

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Speaker 1: idea is being carried through many of the public schools

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Speaker 1: by now because of the teachers and others who grew

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Speaker 1: up in or were trained by the folks in the

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, when it was basically broke with the standard

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Speaker 1: belief of the country. So I'll ask you the same

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Speaker 1: question I've been asking asked David Horowitz earlier in Scott

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Speaker 1: you Linger is a former CIA station chief. You know

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Speaker 1: you've been around in in uh the White House. Um,

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Speaker 1: is there any hope uh? In politics? And is there

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Speaker 1: any hope that the American freethinkers the patriots can unite

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Speaker 1: because the left are their experts at uniting because they

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Speaker 1: have this this thin ideology that they stick to like

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Speaker 1: fly tape. What what is there any hope? Well, we

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Speaker 1: have a very serious situation because you know, let me,

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Speaker 1: let's take a look at the politics of the time

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Speaker 1: when I was with President Nixon and Spirit Tag Knew

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Speaker 1: and in the nineteen sixties, I was a god order man.

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Speaker 1: After our defeat in nineteen sixty four in the rise

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Speaker 1: of if you will, this counter culture we use is

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Speaker 1: it as a foil and ran against it and campaigned

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Speaker 1: against it and spoke against it, and Nixon and ag

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Speaker 1: Knew one forty nine states, and then Reagan one forty

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Speaker 1: four states, and then Reagan one forty nine stage, George H. W.

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Speaker 1: Bush one forty stage, and we use that adversary culture

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Speaker 1: that really hostile to the fundamental beliefs of most Americans

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Speaker 1: when we were growing up and we won elections. But

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Speaker 1: they're now much much closer. I mean, the Democrats still

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Speaker 1: have a very strong base going into any presidential election. California,

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Speaker 1: which used to be Republican, is gone, basically you might say,

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Speaker 1: gone over to the revolution. So I think is their hope, Sure,

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Speaker 1: there is, but the trend has not been good. Now.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know that you're a conservative. I'm a conservative,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you've long since I can remember being one

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Speaker 1: of the most powerful conservative voices out there. People don't

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Speaker 1: come at you unless they're ready for a fight. They

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Speaker 1: know that you're going to bring it. But there's been

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Speaker 1: a change in the Republican Party. I truly believe when

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Speaker 1: we look at the Democratic Party, we see communists, abversive

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Speaker 1: operators inside the Democratic Party, I mean, buying large majority

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Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party. And you actually see something going

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Speaker 1: on in the GOP establishment that is, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say mimicking, but in a lot of ways seems

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Speaker 1: as though they're colluding because they they don't stand up

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Speaker 1: and they don't come out with policies that go against

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. They can crush them now they have

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Speaker 1: every house, and yet they do nothing. Well, I think,

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Speaker 1: then again, you're you're on the money here. The Republican Party,

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Speaker 1: it is. They're in Washington, d C. When they're out

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Speaker 1: home speaking to the folks, and they in the provinces,

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Speaker 1: if you will, and they're running in their congressional districts.

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Speaker 1: They get reinforcements from patriotic folks and traditionalist and Christians

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Speaker 1: and all these other groups that are traditional American and

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Speaker 1: they get that reinforcement, and then you get to d

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Speaker 1: C and where they're really dropped into this pool where

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Speaker 1: all the media is hostile and pushing them in another

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Speaker 1: direction and saying in effect that your views, if you

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Speaker 1: inspect them, are really racist and sexist and islamophobic and

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Speaker 1: homophobic and all of these things against maternity. And the

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Speaker 1: moral pressure is very great in this capital city, and

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Speaker 1: there's a tendency on the report of Republicans, a lot

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Speaker 1: of Republicans who are not really deep in their beliefs,

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Speaker 1: to say, well, you know, this is just the way

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Speaker 1: it's gone. We've got to accommodate to a degree. Let's

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Speaker 1: try to hold a line here and let's retreat to

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Speaker 1: a new line there. It's been look that Jonathan, that's

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Speaker 1: been going on for a long, long, long time. Well,

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Speaker 1: and here's another thing that you can probably speak too

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Speaker 1: better and just about anybody, which is we now see

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Speaker 1: with seeing in for instance, uh, they accuse Russia of

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Speaker 1: of colluding to UM it seems like collusion is the

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Speaker 1: word of the year. But they they talk about Russia

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Speaker 1: trying to subvert our election process. CNN and MSNBC is

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Speaker 1: probably nobody, Uh, no entity has affected our um and

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Speaker 1: and subverted our election process greater than these liars. But

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Speaker 1: this is no thing new. Am I correct? You've been

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Speaker 1: You've dealt with the press for many, many years. The

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Speaker 1: press has always been liberal. Well, you know, I worked

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Speaker 1: with MSNBC about four or five years ago. But let

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Speaker 1: me tell you there's this. This has been true in

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Speaker 1: my you know, and let me mention my new book,

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Speaker 1: uh Nixon's White House Wars. I described in there how

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Speaker 1: Nixon was confronted, but the media after he made his

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Speaker 1: were the primary sources of information for a majority of Americans,

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Speaker 1: trashed it. And I wrote a speech, and Nixon edited

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Speaker 1: it and we gave it to Vice President I Knew,

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Speaker 1: who worked on it as well, and he took off

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Speaker 1: after the national networks and then after the post in

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Speaker 1: the New York Times, in major televised national addresses. That

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Speaker 1: really ignited the battle against the major media, and they

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Speaker 1: defeated them that year in in in nineteen seventy two.

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Speaker 1: And then of course Nixon fell because of his Watergate

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Speaker 1: failings and what was done to him. But this battle

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Speaker 1: has been going on a long time in the media,

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Speaker 1: the academic community, even really some of the church communities,

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Speaker 1: all the intellectual UH parts of American society have been really,

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Speaker 1: if you will, sort of infiltrated with these ideas and

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Speaker 1: this ideology and these beliefs, and they reflected and these

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Speaker 1: getting reflected down the road in the political realm. And

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Speaker 1: this is why the country socially, culturally, Marlly has been

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Speaker 1: moving dramatically to the left. You know, Jonathan, when I

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Speaker 1: gave I don't know how old you were, when I

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Speaker 1: gave that culture war speech down at the Republican Convention

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Speaker 1: in UH in Houston in nineteen ninety two, UH saying

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Speaker 1: that we're in a cultural war, which is at rude

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Speaker 1: to religious war and Irving Crystal, who was a neo conservative,

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Speaker 1: said that's correct, but I regret to inform Pat bughanon

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Speaker 1: the war is over. We lost and this is the

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Speaker 1: point you're making. Did we lose? And can we come back?

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Speaker 1: And I've always sort of believed that, you know, the

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Speaker 1: struggle is worth it whether no matter how the battle end.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was twenty three at that point, and

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Speaker 1: I was in college. And in ninety five, my senior

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Speaker 1: year of college, I got to go into Washington d C.

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Speaker 1: UH I was at the University of Arsalt, Little Rock,

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Speaker 1: and we spent a day in the r n C,

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Speaker 1: a day in the d n C, which I don't

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Speaker 1: know how who was able to uh get that organized.

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Speaker 1: But and then we worked for a week answering telephones

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Speaker 1: in the Clinton White House and I was able to

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Speaker 1: be uh in there when um new Gingrich was doing

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Speaker 1: the contract for American I got to see the debate

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Speaker 1: on that. It was a fascinating time. But at the

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Speaker 1: end of that week, UM I was actually depressed because

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Speaker 1: I did not see and this is I did not

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Speaker 1: see four the people by the people. I saw two

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Speaker 1: uh entities that aren't C in the d n C

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Speaker 1: that we're over. And this is before I've done any

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Speaker 1: of this stuff, gotten any real experience in life. I

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Speaker 1: saw two entities that were not putting the people and

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Speaker 1: what's important for the people first. But I didn't know

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Speaker 1: until just recently how deeply embedded communism is in the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party, and for some reason people just can't seem

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Speaker 1: to believe that. Well, you know, um, it's what we

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Speaker 1: call it is the famously the communist system put together

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Speaker 1: by Trotsky and Stalin and Lenin and their successors in

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Speaker 1: Bresnev and these other people we dealt went back in

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Speaker 1: the Cold War. That system collapse. Political communism, if you will, collapsed. However,

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Speaker 1: there is a cultural Marxism that that that that a

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Speaker 1: school that was founded which basically they argued that that

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Speaker 1: political Marxism Leninism might fail. But cultural Marxism, if you

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Speaker 1: capture the culture, if you capture in the long march

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Speaker 1: through the institutions, the institutions and turned them into something different,

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Speaker 1: If you can turn the churches away from what they

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Speaker 1: were into backing something we support, this is a far

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Speaker 1: easier and more enduring victory than than even winning over

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Speaker 1: by military force. And overrunning countries where everybody to test you.

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Speaker 1: So when it's a game of it's not a game,

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Speaker 1: but it's a war of conversions. I mean, it's how

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Speaker 1: the when one reason why the Roman Empire went under

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Speaker 1: in the West was created was you know, the Christians

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Speaker 1: won the culture of war. Listen, uh, Mr Bichannan, I

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Speaker 1: I call you Mr Bichannan, Pat Buchanan if everybody else

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Speaker 1: will know them, author of Nixon's White House Wars, the

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Speaker 1: battle that made and broke a present and divided America forever.

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Speaker 1: I could go on and on, we could talk for

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Speaker 1: hours and and but I gotta tell you it was

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Speaker 1: an honor to talk to you. There's so much more,

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Speaker 1: uh that I want to ask you, but people can

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Speaker 1: check out your your column. Is America still a nation?

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Speaker 1: And thank you very much, sir. I appreciate it. Well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you a great day too. This is Jonathan T. Guilliam.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter j Gilliam, Underscore Seal

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Speaker 1: and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam. Let me know

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Speaker 1: what you think. The calling number is eight hundred nine

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Speaker 1: four one seven, three to six. We're gonna take a break,

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Speaker 1: We'll come back. I'll say a few words, and here

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Speaker 1: in just a few minutes, James O'Keefe coming up bite

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Speaker 1: sized version of the show that you can take it

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Speaker 1: with you. Sign up today for Hannity Headlines, go to

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Speaker 1: Hannity dot com. This is Jonathan Gillham. Listen. I like

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Speaker 1: I transparency is important to me. And and so I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting here listening to music, checking out whatever the latest

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Speaker 1: headline is on my phone, and I'm thinking that this

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Speaker 1: is good music. He is looking at me. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Mica is on. You can start talking now, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So anyway, maybe your transparency is not such a good thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here watching the news after talking to Pat Buchanan,

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Speaker 1: David Horowitz, and Scott you Linger, three incredible Americans, all

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Speaker 1: from different ways of life and different backgrounds. They come

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Speaker 1: to the same conclusion with all this. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: couldn't get three different lives meeting at the same point

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Speaker 1: as these three guests that we've had today. I look

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Speaker 1: up and I see Congressman Schiff from California Democrat on CNN.

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Speaker 1: It's like the same cast of characters there are every day,

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Speaker 1: and I don't really have a whole lot of time

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Speaker 1: to get into this. But I just want to point

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Speaker 1: out to everybody you have a smartphone, don't let it

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Speaker 1: make you dumber. Use it. When you see these people

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Speaker 1: on television talking, look at their backgrounds. Compare them to

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Speaker 1: the three people that have had on today talking about

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Speaker 1: specifically what they know. Jim Scuto, the guy who goes

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Speaker 1: in and tries to bully every White House Press secretary

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Speaker 1: that's worked for Trump. He goes in there, he tries

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Speaker 1: to bully and down talk to him. Jim Scuto is nothing.

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Speaker 1: He is a college graduate, that's it. And then he's

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Speaker 1: went around collecting what everybody tells him and regurgitating it.

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Speaker 1: And because he's on television, it's a big mistake with

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Speaker 1: people I see that get into media. He thinks he

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Speaker 1: knows everything. It's the same thing with Congressman. I'm amazed

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Speaker 1: at some of these people that get elected and re

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Speaker 1: elected when you look at their backgrounds, you look at

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Speaker 1: the reality of who they are. There nobody. They have

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Speaker 1: no experience, They've done nothing, been nowhere, grew up either

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Speaker 1: with a silver spoon in their mouth or just grew

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Speaker 1: up doing nothing like Bernie Sanders. But yet they get elected,

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Speaker 1: they get put on TV and the American people buy

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Speaker 1: what they say. Apparently, the president gets two scoops you

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Speaker 1: know everyone aroulse around the table gets one uh no

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Speaker 1: word if there were sprinkles at the dessert course, he

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Speaker 1: gets two scoops of a no ice cream with his

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Speaker 1: chocolate cream pie. The single scoop for everyone else. I

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Speaker 1: would be remiss if I did not ask you both

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Speaker 1: about the hand swat scene around the world. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: even a complete sentence tweeted up by President Trump just

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Speaker 1: after midnight despite the constant negative press what's that word koffifi?

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Speaker 1: The best koffefi because professionals could only guess at how

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Speaker 1: to pronounce it. We're pretty sure the President meant to

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Speaker 1: type negative press coverage, but the kofefe tweet stayed up

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Speaker 1: for almost six hours. A case of chivalry or a phobia.

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Speaker 1: A theory about why President Trump grabbed the British prime

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Speaker 1: ministers had now getting the phones down. Sannon Genie Most

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Speaker 1: explains all this. But whether it be not shaking German

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Speaker 1: Chancellor's hand or clutching the hand of Britain's Prime minister,

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Speaker 1: President Trump's hands seemed to end up in headlines. For instance,

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Speaker 1: the BBC headline Donald Trump is scared of stairs scare

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Speaker 1: case short on won British paper back when President Trump

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Speaker 1: took Prime Minister May his hand as they navigated a

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Speaker 1: ramp at the White House batm phobia, a fear of

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Speaker 1: ramps and stairs. Really watching a step coming down the

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Speaker 1: stairs of the capital, even while climbing just a couple

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Speaker 1: of steps at the White House coming off his plane,

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Speaker 1: eyes on his feet, clutching the railing. When asked if

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Speaker 1: the President has fear of stairs, a White House spokesperson said,

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Speaker 1: no offense, but this is an absurd question. The growing

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Speaker 1: Russian investigations seemed to be taking tolln President Trump. According

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Speaker 1: to sources who speak with him and in a general

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Speaker 1: way they say being president is agreeing with the president.

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Speaker 1: He's gains weight. According to these sources, he doesn't trust

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Speaker 1: people around him. He's withdrawing. Not a good picture, it's

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Speaker 1: the one being painted by those sources. For the first

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Speaker 1: time in four years, the Script's National Spelling b has

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Speaker 1: a solo champion twelve year old and non ya Venet

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Speaker 1: wins the championship trophy at a forty dollar first prize

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Speaker 1: and a non ven joins US now congratulations, So Ananya.

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Speaker 1: We have a challenge for you. We'd like you to

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Speaker 1: spell a word. It has recently become popular. Not sure

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Speaker 1: if you're familiar with it or if you know the definition.

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Speaker 1: Do you know the word fee? Definition? Please? The definition

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Speaker 1: is a nonsense word made up by the President of

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Speaker 1: the United States in a late night tweet. Language av

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Speaker 1: a language of our gibberish. And this is Jonathan T.

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Speaker 1: Gilliam and I'm filling in for Shaun Handy on the

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Speaker 1: shan Any Radio show. And man, it's hard to make

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Speaker 1: it through some of these montages. That one was extremely excruciating,

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Speaker 1: but it shows you a good mix of the nonsensical

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Speaker 1: reporting that the seeing and does on these little special

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Speaker 1: hits that they do sometimes and how they really do

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Speaker 1: uh intertwine the lies and the narratives that they try

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Speaker 1: to push um and by demeaning the president and then

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Speaker 1: making people think, well, he's dumb, he's paranoid, he's gaining

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Speaker 1: weight because he doesn't want to be president, and then

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Speaker 1: they slowly uh integrate that with the Russian collusion lie

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Speaker 1: and what you see really, I mean, it's absolutely a

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Speaker 1: masterful performance, uh. I think designed by people who have

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Speaker 1: long since been communist operatives and have been trained to

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Speaker 1: do this stuff. And you know, I thought, who better

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Speaker 1: to talk about this, uh than James o'keee, founder of

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Speaker 1: Project Veritas. Uh. You may have seen him and all

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Speaker 1: the videos that he's done with UH playing parenthood, showing

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Speaker 1: the reality of what they're doing. And now with seeing

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Speaker 1: n I mean, James, you've gone after seeing in in

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Speaker 1: a way that I'm sure a lot of conservatives like

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Speaker 1: myself who have been contributors there, wish somebody would do.

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Speaker 1: I'm just amazed at how these people just spurt things out.

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Speaker 1: You guys do an amazing job with your sources. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you for that. And and by the way, they

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Speaker 1: don't blurt things out right away. We have to build

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Speaker 1: relationships with these folks over the course of many weeks

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Speaker 1: and it's not many months. But yes, in today's video,

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Speaker 1: this this Chris Cuomo producer was caught. This is part

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Speaker 1: four of our American Probit series. He's talking about how

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Speaker 1: none of the people at CNN program New Day like

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Speaker 1: their hosts Chris Clomo. He says, quote just can't stand

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Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo when he talked like shut up unquote. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's pretty shakespeare In because he's doubling down

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Speaker 1: on his comment that the voters are stupid, and he

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01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: kind of talks about what they really think about each other.

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Speaker 1: You do realize that the play where they're murdering the president, um,

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01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: they say it's a Shakespearean play, but the reality is

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01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 1: these liberals just want to show up and see Trump

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Speaker 1: be murdered on stage. You do realize that you are,

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01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: in real life doing the same thing to CNN. You

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01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: are literally dethroning them. I don't know what the best

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01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: part about it is is that we're We're not doing

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01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,560
Speaker 1: that through characterizations or opinion. What they do is that

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01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 1: they characterize. They call what I do a propaganda. What

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01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: to call what I do propaganda is a contamination. It

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01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 1: is a deceit. We expose them in their own words,

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01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: We're just unroundling them by exposing who they really are.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's their words, not mine. I'm not the

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Speaker 1: one characterizing them. They're the ones went with John Bonnafield

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01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 1: saying that we all we do this for ratings. The

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01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: Russia stuff is bs. To put it mildly, he uses

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01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 1: the actual curse word. They're the ones who actually are

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01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,640
Speaker 1: saying these things not me, So it's it's it is shakespeareance.

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01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 1: But I'm not killing them. I'm exposing the truth about them.

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01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: And now the American people are seeing it, and we're

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Speaker 1: changing the public perceptions about how people perceive their media.

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Speaker 1: And it's a good thing. I think from the conflict

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Speaker 1: divisions is the citizen media who believe we need the reinformation,

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Speaker 1: the real information, and the establishment press, which is the

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01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 1: suppress information and feed us these narratives. Yeah. And I

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01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 1: was talking about Jim Scutto Scudo earlier, and many of

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01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: these people that are not just at CNN, they're in

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01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: the media all over the place. Say, graduated college, that's

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01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 1: all they did. They have no real experience in understanding

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01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 1: the reality of what's going on in this country. Who

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01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: they're actually lying for a lot of the times, and

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01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 1: people take what they say for pure gospel. Here's the

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01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 1: problem though, where they always talk about how the Russians

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01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: have it's this or done this. The reality is mainstream

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01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: media has probably influenced not just elections, but uh, the

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Speaker 1: footing in which the American people that the divisiveness. Uh,

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01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 1: they they're like the spear that politicians and activists used

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01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 1: to divide people by putting on you know, when I

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01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: was on CNN, it was never national security. They always

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01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 1: wanted to use me to uh analyze or debate somebody

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01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 1: when a white cop shoots a black individual in the

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01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: inner in the inner city. And what I've seen is,

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01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 1: and I know you've seen this, is that we're starting

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01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:38,600
Speaker 1: to see real ramifications of the way people in in

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01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: the public treat each other. I had I have a

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01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: friend that's uh on Facebook. Her name is Lisa Wasserman,

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01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 1: and she she wrote a response to a photographer who

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Speaker 1: felt that it was okay to put on Facebook um

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01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 1: a picture of an overweight mom at the beach with

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01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 1: her four kids and belittle the woman because of her weight.

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01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 1: And you know, Lisa did the things. She went back

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01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 1: at the person before she defriended him and pretty much

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01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: completely slammed them, saying that there was nothing uh more

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01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 1: beautiful than a mom making sure that her four kids

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01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 1: have something to do like go to the beach and

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01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 1: are taken care of. And so I just can't, I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't but not equate this nasty behavior that the

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01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 1: American public has directly to the divisive rhetoric in lies

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01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 1: that are coming out of mainstream media. I think that

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01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 1: and I think that's true. I think the paradigm is

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01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:34,759
Speaker 1: being inverted. I mean, they're they're they're basically a political campaign.

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01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: CNN is a political campaign, and we've had to live

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01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,719
Speaker 1: in a post fact world where people can't really agree

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01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 1: on things. But um, I think that the truth is

1541
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 1: is that we the citizens are the news and David

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01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 1: trying to brand us as the right wing extremists or

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01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 1: political people, We're just we're just truth tellers and they're

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01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 1: the political marketing industry. They're they're the ones who are

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01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 1: trying to uh, you know, and we're bing the reverse.

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01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 1: So it's it's amazing what you can do when you

1547
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 1: just show people on their own words. And I think

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01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 1: we're reaching a tipping point now where um, I think

1549
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 1: we're reaching a tipping point where people are starting to

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01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 1: wake up. And uh, it's just unbelievable. Week with the

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01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 1: four videos that we've done now seen us trying to

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01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,759
Speaker 1: blackmail people with this route, with today with this scandal

1553
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 1: involving the CNN reporters saying that we will reveal your

1554
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 1: real name unless you do this or that. Now that's

1555
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: a crime. People waking up yeah, it is the crime

1556
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 1: in New York State for sure. So so what is

1557
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 1: it like, Um, Because I know I do a show

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01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 1: every night and you're by the way, You're more than

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01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 1: welcome anytime to come on my show. It's called The Experts.

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01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 1: I do it. I simulcast it every night weeknight at

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01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 1: nine pm on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. But exactly one

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01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: thing that you just said there a second ago is

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01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: that they own the leftists owned the airwaves, just like

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01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 1: they own the educational sector. But they own their airwaves,

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01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 1: they own Twitter, they own Facebook, and they will not

1566
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:12,879
Speaker 1: hesitate to censor people that not that have said something hateful,

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01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 1: but something that they don't like or they know is

1568
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 1: too cutting to their ideology. How have you handled that?

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01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 1: But jeez, I need an hour to answer that. Um.

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01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 1: It goes back to the sort of I guess Marxist

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01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: notion that we can't allow conversation or information that leads

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01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,679
Speaker 1: people to a conclusion that we don't like. So everything

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01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 1: stems from the need to advance the specific agenda. And

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01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 1: the thing about them our republic American democracy is we want,

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01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: we want, we want multiple ideas and and may the

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01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 1: best conclusion wins. And that's not what these people believe.

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01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:00,160
Speaker 1: So there's this there's this conflict, this philosophical con like,

1578
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 1: and how have I handled it is to is to

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01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 1: go behind the scenes, into the shadows and reveal the

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01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 1: real motivations of these people. If you look at the

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01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 1: real motivations of CNN, as we exposed in John Bamberfield's

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01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 1: video the first video, one is to make money, is

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01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:17,680
Speaker 1: to advance whatever narrative is necessary in order to make

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01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 1: us ratings and money. And it's all bs, they say.

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01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 1: So the way to deal with it is to expose

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01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 1: people's real motivations. Is that the establishment doesn't care about

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01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 1: their own ideas. They have all perior motives. And if

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01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 1: we put those motives on an air in front of

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01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 1: the American people, people will rise up, and the vast

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01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 1: majority of people will will will rise up and they

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01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 1: and they'll stop trusting these people. That's how we deal

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01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: with it. Listen, I've asked this question several times today

1593
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: and you are actually the first one that actually gave

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01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 1: a real answer of how we we combat this stuff.

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01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 1: So that's that's good. And I think the American people,

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01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:56,679
Speaker 1: because of social media, can fall right in the line

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01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 1: and step with what you're doing. Um, but listen, I

1598
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 1: gotta take a break. It's always good to hear you

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01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 1: and see what you're doing. And um, keep doing the

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01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 1: great work because you're you're doing an amazing job. Thank

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01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 1: you very much. You got a buddy. We'll talk soon.

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01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:16,879
Speaker 1: This is Jonathan T. Gilliam And listen, folks, that's exactly

1603
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: what we should be doing there is don't just sit

1604
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,760
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. Even if Twitter is your thing and

1605
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: you're actively in there in the dialogue, do that. Do that,

1606
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 1: get in there, start making a difference by making a statement.

1607
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: And if you want to reach out and thank uh

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01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 1: Lisa Wasserman, who I talked about just second ago. I

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01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: thought it was profound what she put down there. She's

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01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 1: also a mom. You can reach her at Aqua for

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Speaker 1: LESE l I s E Aqua the number four l

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01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 1: I se on Twitter and let her know. See that's

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01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 1: what I believe. If you stand up for somebody who's

1614
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 1: being wronged, if you stand up against this um narrative

1615
01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:00,080
Speaker 1: that's being pushed out by the Left, I'll stand with you.

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01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,679
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter, Jake William Underscore sealing

1617
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 1: on Facebook at Jonathan T. William let's take a break.

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01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 1: We'll come back or have some closing statements. You don't

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01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: want to miss this. We'll be right back. I got

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01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:35,720
Speaker 1: the call to leave today. My team and night are

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01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 1: gone away. Where to hound long? Well that's a need

1622
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 1: to know. You can bet on us because we're good.

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01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: I'm about pack again. I leave red, white and blue.

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01:35:55,520 --> 01:36:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay you dead American through and through. That

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01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 1: is my buddy, Christian McKinley. You can find that song

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01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 1: The Patriot on iTunes. And uh man, I just thought

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01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 1: it would be good to start out with that song

1628
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 1: because we don't talk enough. Listen, yesterday was Independence Day,

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01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 1: but today is Independence Day plus one. You don't stop

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01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 1: talking about people who pay the ultimate sacrifice. Listen. Even

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01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 1: Jesus said that the ultimate gift in life is to

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01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 1: lay your life down for your friend. And yesterday, unfortunately, um,

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01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 1: we had an NYPD officer, officer familiar who wash. It's

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01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 1: funny because they say this in the press. She died.

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01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:53,600
Speaker 1: She was murdered. She was murdered while on duty in uniform, deploying. Listen, officers,

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01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 1: police officers deploy every day. They put the gun, they

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01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 1: strapped the gun on, they put the bad John, and

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01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 1: they deploy into communities that a lot of times just

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01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: don't even want them there unless things are going to

1640
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: hell in a handbasket, and then they're mad because they

1641
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:15,600
Speaker 1: weren't there fast enough. An officer familiar. God bless you,

1642
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 1: and God bless all the officers in military out there.

1643
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 1: This is Jonathan T. Gilliam. You can find me on

1644
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:25,879
Speaker 1: Twitter j Gilliam Underscore steal and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam.

1645
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 1: Remember when you hear me, the truth has arrived. So

1646
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 1: check out my show The Experts on Facebook, Live, Twitter

1647
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 1: and YouTube every night at nine pm and let me

1648
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: know what you think. I'll see you next time.