1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I am Rashwan McDonald, the host 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: of Money Making Conversations Masterclass, where we encourage people to 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories and start planning their own. 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: Listen up as I interview entrepreneurs from around the country, 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: talk to celebrities and ask them how they are running 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: their companies, and speak with nod profits who are making 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: a difference in their local communities. Now, sit back and 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: listen as we unlock the secrets to their success on 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Hi, this is Rushan McDonald. 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That's JUS Free, a 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: parole package provider that educates inmates who are unaware of 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: what is presented about them to the Board of Pardons 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: and Parole. I please, he's welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. 36 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: Dominique Leonard. How you doing, Dominique? 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: I'm doing good. How you doing? Thank you for. 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: Having me appreciate you. I met you and at a 39 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: black Man's Wellness event in Houston, Texas. Correct, yes, sir, okay? Cool? 40 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: And while are we there? 41 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: We was there because my wife's company was there, you know, 42 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: for the work Hellness and awsome to get our own 43 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: little stuff done and our procedure is done. And I'm 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: also to support, you know, to support the community and 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: come out and see what was going on as well. 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: Right right, And that's when we met. We connected and 47 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: he said, hey, you started telling me about his program 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: just Just Free. Now, howly just Free start because obviously 49 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: you know it's tied to people who are who are 50 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: being incarcerated. Are incarcerated? Have you been incarcerated, Dominique Lennard, Yes. 51 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: Sir, so I was incarcerated and that's how Just Free 52 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 2: was born through my incarceration. I was actually given a 53 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: life sentence on my incarceration and we actually hire low help. 54 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: Holdo, holo, I'm doin now. You know, life sentence. Now 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: you just blue past that man. Somebody gonna tell you you're 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: gonna go to jail for life, and you act like 57 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: that was a comma in a sentence. Okay, now, somebody 58 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: tell me now now, because there are certain moments in 59 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: my life that things have happened to me, and everything 60 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: moves in slow motion when I hear and I told 61 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: when I when somebody told me, when the doctor told 62 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: me I had he had diagnosed me with cancer, my 63 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: life slow man, I was like, wow, did he say cancer? 64 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: And I kept repeating that word to myself and so 65 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: so in a court, you were standing there and they 66 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: said you going to jail for life? 67 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, So the jury stood there and told me 68 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: I'd be going to prison for life. And actually you 69 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: said that. It was like a slow motion, non surreal moment. 70 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: It was like a heart of body experience. And I'm 71 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: standing there like, okay, they just say life. Am I 72 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: going to prison for life? And at the time I 73 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 2: didn't understand what life meant. So again, through that process 74 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: of prison, it's word just free was created. 75 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, let's let's let's educate the people. So you know, 76 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, when people hear the word life, they feel, 77 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, if something super does you did something super super, well, 78 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm teasing going to jails and somebody arresting you. You've 79 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: done something wrong. Let's admit that what exactly did you do? 80 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: They put you in a position to receive this sentence. 81 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: I had a non aggravated robbery charge and that was 82 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: my That was my charge. It was walking into a 83 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: bank with a note. I only took it to charge 84 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: because they were trying to put more cases on me 85 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: that had nothing to do with me. But it ma's 86 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: the same BMO. And that goes with any kind of 87 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: time you get any kind of crime that'sh you know, 88 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: for any kind of violent crime or crime that that 89 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: has a certain MO and it's unsolved, they're going to 90 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: try to put them all on you. And and so 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: I wanted to trial, but they would offer me seven 92 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: years if I didn't go to trial. Uh, but I 93 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 2: petitioned the court to go to charge to fight the charges. 94 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: Okay, Now, so you went in a bank with a note, 95 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: gave it to a taller, Yes, sir, Taylor gave you money, 96 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: and you walked out. I walked out, Yes, sir, you 97 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: got away? 98 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: Yes, sir? 99 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: How long did you get were you out free? And 100 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: how did you get caught? 101 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: I was? I was. I was free for about seven 102 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: eight months. I got turned in by my cousin who 103 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: turned me in over a dispute that we had over money. 104 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: And he called the the too tip line they have 105 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: in Houston, Texas. And that's how they pulled me over. 106 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: That's how I got put in custody. 107 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: Crab in the bar, grabs in the bar. Yes, cool, 108 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: So that's that's you're done wrong. You you got called. 109 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: Now you're in jail, and they they put all these 110 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: these cases on you. You tried to fight it, and 111 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: you still went to jail anyway. And then your how 112 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: did you find out that there was a loop, that 113 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: there are different versions of a life sentence? How did 114 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: you get educated about that? 115 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: Well? It was actually when I was incarcerated. I had 116 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: made a phone call home to my cousin and he. 117 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: Was like, hey, bro, not the cousin who turned you in. 118 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: Not that girl, right, No, No, I haven't seen that 119 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: cousins that I've been free. But I called home to 120 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: my cousin. He said, hey, man, you have a life insurance, 121 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: but you have to do five and a half six 122 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: years be where you come up a parole. So you 123 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: have a non aggravated licensest non aggravated licenses mean that 124 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: when nobody tell somebody got hurt with the weapon involved. 125 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: If I had an aggravated life centers, it means somebody 126 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: got hurt, it was a weapon involved or something to 127 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: that caliber. So it was a non aggravated life entest, 128 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: and so I knew I had to do five and 129 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 2: a half six years before I see parole. So in 130 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: that process, that's when my family hired a parole attorney 131 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: at the time while I'm doing my time to help 132 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: me get home on my phone and yes sir, and 133 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: so that didn't happen. So my first part, after doing 134 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: six and a half years, I came up for parole. 135 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: Then I got denied my parole. And so at that 136 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: point I called home to my mom, spoke to her, 137 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: we got ahold of my dad, and he gave me 138 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: a hardship or harsh where they get you moved closer 139 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: to home if your family can't travel so far to 140 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: see you. So I got a hardship to get moved 141 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: closer to home. And in that hardship, I got closer 142 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: to home. And the whole time walking and incarcerated, God 143 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: was staying elevating my life. Even in the walls of 144 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: prison I was. I didn't get any trouble, I didn't 145 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: have any fights. I mean, like again, I was protected 146 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: by God and doing the whole process. But in this transfer, 147 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: it's when I told my family, hey, listen, I'm not 148 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: sure what the parole attorney did on my behalf. But 149 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: I think I know what parole wants to see because 150 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: before my incarceration, and still I was known as a 151 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: celebrity barber, I had a lot of clientele that I 152 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: was cut and traveling with doing this process. And I 153 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: don't think prole knew what that is, what I was. 154 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: I just knew the tatum. It's a black guy, committal crime. 155 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: It's all over the place. Oh my god. But so 156 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: I want to put a faith and I want to 157 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: put life to my prone package. So I have my family, 158 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: fire my proole attorney and fire her whole team. And 159 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: they thought I was crazy, but I said, man, just 160 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: like you pray, I pray, and I feel I have 161 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: a vision of what they want to see. Right. Together, 162 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: we worked together, we worked, and. 163 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: So you became your own jail house lawyer. 164 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Yes, sir. And then you know what that 165 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: is a good saying, because that's likely what happens. A 166 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: lot of guys get in there, they learn cases, they 167 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 2: learn things and start fighting for yourself because every person 168 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: incarcerated only wants one thing, that's to be free. Right. 169 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: How did that work? How did they work? You know 170 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: because it's going to be real here. You know, yeah, 171 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: are free. You don't want to open a book. You 172 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: know you wanted to get to go through the easy 173 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: while you walked in a bank and gave somebody a 174 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: note and walk out with somebody else's money. Now you're 175 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: in jail, you know you're found odd because your faith 176 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: is strong in jail, correct, And then it is strong 177 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: because guess what pray mean? Prayer mean something to you 178 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: in jail. I know because I had a younger brother 179 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: who was in jail. And so now were there other 180 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: people who mentored you through this process and told you 181 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: this is how you should do it if you're going 182 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: to try to find legal ways to uh get yourself 183 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: out of prison, the legal ways to understand the parole system. 184 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: Who was mentoring you while you were in prison before 185 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: we before you launched overall business called just Free, which 186 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: is what you're doing now that you're out of prison. 187 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: Well, honestly, nobody mentored me doing this process. And I 188 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: believe that a lot of people get incarcerated, come on 189 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: make bad decisions that don't make them a bad person. 190 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: I made a bad decision right to make me a 191 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: bad person. I always had God in my life. I 192 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: had to turn back around to look at my guard 193 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: again while I'm going prison, because you know, I mean 194 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: a lot of people get raised with God in their life, 195 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: in praying, praying mothers, praying grandmothers, whatever, you know, even 196 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: prand fathers one of them people. Again, I just started 197 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: to go my own way and I went to foolish. 198 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: For so everything I gained the right way, I lost 199 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: the wrong with it by that one bad decision. Because 200 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: everything I literally had, from barbershops to the cars, whatever, 201 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: how I was living, really it was legit. I lived. 202 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: I lived right, but I made that one bad decision 203 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: to go into the bank, and now we created the 204 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 2: whole downfall. So while I'm in prison now, I just 205 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: made a whole u turn to who Dominique really is 206 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: and who I am as a person because I went 207 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: in again. I went in at thirty four, so I 208 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 2: didn't go in young foolish. I went in as a 209 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: grown man who had responsibility before. So I took my 210 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 2: mind that I was already working with a hate me. 211 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: Can sit down, slow down, Let's think about what you 212 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: want to do. Because you got this parole attorney. I 213 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: can't see what they're doing for me, So that's why 214 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: we let them go. And that's why I started creating 215 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: my own pro bractice, because again I just I prayed 216 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: about it, and I just had to feeling that, hey, 217 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: parole don't know who I am, and because in this 218 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: prison we are dehumanized, and so I had to humanize 219 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: myself within the walls of prison. And that's how just 220 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 2: Free got created. And I just kind of start petitioning things, 221 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 2: putting things together. My family called us, some friends, getting 222 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 2: pictures done, getting stuff done, to create this package. And 223 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: once they got formatted, I sent them home. My family 224 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 2: made copy, sent them all back to me. I sent 225 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: them off to the pro board. So after my two 226 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: year set off, I seen parole again. This time I 227 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: came prepared because now I got my parole package, and 228 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: I made a promise to God, I says, God, if 229 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: you give me a chance, if you get me out this, 230 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: I promised, when I get home, I create just Free. 231 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: And I petitioned the court with my actually the parole board, 232 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: with my parole package. It was March twenty sixteen, and 233 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 2: made the other sixteen. The proboard called my mom, said 234 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: they wanted to come see me. In person, which don't 235 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 2: happen because you after twenty years to see somebody from 236 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: the road, only did seven and a half years. By 237 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: this time almost eight and so actually the parole boy 238 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: came to see me in person. I've seen parole in March. 239 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 2: They call my mom around May. They didn't come to 240 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: see me until almost the end of October twenty sixteen. 241 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: So I'm waiting almost six seven eight months for an 242 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: answer I'm gonna go home or not. But they told 243 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: my mom that wasn't gonna make an answer to the 244 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 2: see me in person. But when they came to see 245 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: me in person, that changed the whole dynamic. The first 246 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: thing the parole board told me his name is Tony Garcia. 247 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: He said, I've been doing this a very long time. 248 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: The time you have with your crime don't match, is overkill, 249 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: he said, he said, But once you get home, what 250 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: are you gonna do with this time? Before I can 251 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: even answer, I already heard what he said. He said, 252 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: once you get home, what are you gonna do with 253 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: this time? Over your head? So I'm crying now like 254 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: a baby because he let me know he's gonna release me. 255 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: I've been walking straight. I'm officer walk by my trustee camp. 256 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: I haven't been in note trouble because everybody who gets incarcerated, 257 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: you have to walk your own walk in prison. You 258 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: can't walk next to the next man because see what's 259 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: gonna happen. The next man's gonna go home, You're still 260 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: gonna be there. You can't really have homeboys up in prison. 261 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: And you can, but you have to walk your own walk. 262 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: I walked my walk the whole time while I was 263 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: in prison. That makes me a big bad man. I 264 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: just have my eyes on. I know I'm going home 265 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: one day. I know I have to live life after 266 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: this life. And so he granted me parole. I got 267 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 2: an if I want. If I wont means you leave 268 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: within thirty days of that answer. So he granted me 269 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 2: the highest parole you can get what if I want 270 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 2: and so on. On top of that, I've also was 271 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: given the lowest levels of provision, which means that I 272 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: report every three to six months versus having to go 273 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: every two weeks. I'm a monetary Yeah, so I even 274 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: have the lowest levels of provision. And so again that's 275 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: how I just free got created. 276 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: Wow, you know, thank you for this honest conversation. Allow 277 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: me to enter rupt to share statements, because I want 278 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're an entrepreneur. Now you know 279 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: you made a mistake. And I tell everybody I made mistakes, 280 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: and I know. I remember when I was in college, 281 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: before we go to break, I'm just tell everybody this 282 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: little story that couldn't put me in jail. I remember 283 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: my fraternity brothers had sent me out and told we 284 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: don't come back unless I had some plants. I didn't 285 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: have no money. They say, we want you come back 286 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: in this house without some plants. We're gonna you're gonna 287 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: find out something by pleasure that you don't want to 288 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: find out. And I always remember it was it was. 289 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: It was in Houston, and it was on a bare 290 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: left freeway, you know, bare laff freeway, you know what 291 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. And bare left Freeway is like one 292 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: of those really white neighborhoods, really white neighborhoods, And they 293 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: had this they had this like a floor like like 294 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: a garden center. And I had to park my car 295 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: and you could and I had to go like I 296 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: got some plants, And I kid you not. Somebody could 297 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: have just been driving along the freeway saw me getting 298 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: these plans because my big brothers told me, if I 299 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: don't come back with these plants, you're gonna be in trouble. 300 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: And my whole life could have been changed because of 301 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: that silly moment, that silly moment of doing that, And 302 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: so we all have moments that we can think about, 303 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: and that was a regretful moment. That's why I'm sharing 304 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: it with I'm not proud of that moment because I 305 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: want to share with everyone to understand that Rashean McDonald 306 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: did something stupid in his life. He didn't get caught, 307 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean it wasn't stupid. 308 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more 309 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making 310 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: Conversations Masterclass, hosted by Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Masterclass 311 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: continues online at Moneymakingconversations dot com and follow money Making 312 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 3: Conversationation's Masterclass on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 313 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: Just Free is a parole package provider that educates inmates 314 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: who are unaware of what is presented to them to 315 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: the Board of Pardons and Parole. I apologize for those 316 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: for those errors in my speech and my guest is 317 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: Dominique Leonard. Dominique Chairter's his story, his journey and how 318 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: this whole concept while he was incarcerated just free became 319 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: a business model for him. He relied on his faith 320 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: and his family and he became a jail host lawyer, 321 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: and working on that, he was able to fire all 322 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: this legal team, fired his legal team, and relied on 323 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: himself and his family, and he achieved parole because he 324 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: was given a life sentence. Now the transition. I'm gonna 325 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: tell you my brother, my little brother got out of jail. 326 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: He was annoy it all. Couldn't tell him nothing, couldn't 327 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: tell him nothing even though he was in jail. You know, 328 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: get money on the books you got, I can tell 329 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: him nothing. Now when you got out of jail, sir, 330 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: will you will? You all? Couldn't nobody tell you nothing? 331 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: Dominique, No, No, actually I wasn't. I wasn't a know 332 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: at all. I was in a very humble place for 333 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 2: my got out of prison. I was very humble. I 334 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 2: was very un sincere about life. I was listening, I 335 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: was I was willing to take any job that was 336 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: going to hire me. So actually, when I got home 337 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: say how humble I was. I knew I was hungry 338 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: for life. I had kids, I had to feed, stay, 339 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: had to live my life. And so I started taking 340 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: a little job at warehouse that was paying eight dollars 341 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: an hour, nine dollars an hour. But it wasn't the 342 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: amount that that mattered to me. What mattered to me 343 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: was just get myself back back acquainted again with life 344 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: and society, getting back into the working mode, working working style, 345 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 2: to the working hustle. And so you know, I mean, 346 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: so those jobs paid eight dollars an hour and I 347 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: got paid every single week. For me, that was enough 348 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: just to get something in the gas tande, just to 349 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 2: put something on the table. Lets give my kids. He 350 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: got twenty bus, he got thirty bus, whatever it may be, 351 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: if they need some shoes, whatever. Because I knew it 352 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: wasn't going to be my end or that was my start, 353 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: but it was going to be my end. And so 354 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: I came home very humble. 355 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: Now that's great to hear. And because you had a 356 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: goal and the fact that you were focused. Now, how 357 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: did you start putting just free implement that? How did 358 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: you start making a business model for you? And did 359 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: you sit down, did you go to SBA, did you 360 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: go to score? How did you start realizing this can 361 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: be a company and how did that become How did 362 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: you implement the steps? Implement the steps? 363 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: Well, this is what happened when I got home. When 364 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: I got home, I had a vision to start writing 365 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: my plays. So I write my players. I was doing 366 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 2: theater and that was going actually really well, and it 367 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 2: was opening from doors for me. And my mom kept 368 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 2: telling me, son, until you give back and give your 369 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 2: testimony and give what you've been through and give how 370 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: God released you. If wasn't great deal to open for you. 371 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: And it was probably about maybe six seven months off 372 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: to being home. I sat down, I went back to 373 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 2: my folder again. I seen my spress of God. Now 374 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: it's time to launch this just free. I didn't I 375 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: didn't take any kind of classes, but I did kind 376 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: of like study certain things that I that I've seen 377 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: while I was in prison. I went back and revisited that, 378 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: some of the packages, some things I may have seen. 379 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: I revisited that. But again I stuck with the same 380 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 2: plan that got me free because I couldn't change it 381 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: because it worked. And it's like why change something that works? 382 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: And so I went with my own m and now 383 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: I did take a para legal course. I took a 384 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: para legal course. I did do that, you know, just 385 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: to get more knowledge on the legal side of things 386 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: and get more knowledge on the parole side and the 387 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: laws and when they change and stuff like that. So 388 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: that helped me some as well. But as far as 389 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: the parole package, that was solely from what God gave me. 390 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: You know it was it was. It was twenty five 391 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: percent a parole plan and seventy five percent faith. 392 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: Right right right right right now. Let me ask you this, 393 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: how did you get your customers? How did you get 394 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: your clients? 395 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: Great question. What I did is that I went on 396 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: the TDC website and I would just look for guys 397 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: on TDC websites who had a parole coming up where 398 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: there was two years away, three years away. Three years 399 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: is a pretty good time. And I would send them 400 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 2: a package and I would send them a cover sheet 401 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: of just Free, and I would send them an intro 402 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 2: what we do for just Free, and I will send 403 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: it in Because I knew if I can contact the inmates, 404 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 2: all them want what one thing, just to be free. 405 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: So I knew if I can contact them they would 406 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: get it home to their families. So that's how it 407 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 2: initially started off. I would contact all the inmates of them. 408 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: There's many images as I can, and my family poured 409 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: in and start blessing me with stamps and started blessing 410 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: me with envelopes and stuff like that to get the 411 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: letters in there. So so everybody kind of poured the 412 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: seed into me and get that going. And then then 413 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: before I know it, family started calling me. Okay, then 414 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: when family started calling me, we started creating paro packages. 415 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: We started creating more pro practice, more propractices. Thenfore I 416 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: know it, these guys are coming home on parole, coming 417 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: home on pro, coming home on pro, and right now 418 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 2: today where eighty two percent, you know, on a success 419 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: play of bringing guys home on parole, and even if 420 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: they don't make their first parole, we stick with them 421 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 2: until they get home. And most of the time they're 422 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 2: making the second parole is coming home on programs, are 423 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: coming straight home. I'm going to come home monitoring, but 424 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: all according to their case. You know, I'm just I'm 425 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: out of controller, but they have to come home home. 426 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: I'm just in controller. Try to get them free back 427 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: into society, right. 428 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: Now, maner, this this is really impressive. Thank you for 429 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: sharing your story because you know it's just an idea. Man, 430 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: you know, and somehow I don't know. Brother, if you 431 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: don't go to jail, there's no just free. If you're 432 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: gonna go to jail, there's not a lot of people 433 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: out of jail because you've shown them the pathway of 434 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: doing it right so they can stay out. And so 435 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: I can't say what is happening to you is is 436 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: a bad thing because it was a bad thing and 437 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: you did a bad thing. But man, the fact that 438 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: you've created this business, how do you feel? How do 439 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: the people your family feels about what you're doing. 440 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 2: My family feels this is it. They feel, Hey, you 441 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: stay right here in this lane. This is it how 442 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 2: I feel about it. For me, every time I get 443 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: a phone call, every time I hear about somebody being incarcerated, 444 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: whether they become a client or not, just to get 445 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: the phone call, it's a humble situation. That reminds me 446 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: of where I was and why I don't want to 447 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 2: go back to. That keeps me free, and that keeps 448 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 2: me humble, That keeps me in my place as a 449 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 2: man and the father of the husband, you know, as 450 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: a person at a brother. So for me is it's 451 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: great to have this surface. But I think the greatest 452 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: thing about it is just helping other families who go 453 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: through it, who deal with it. Because my mom dealt 454 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: with it. She tried her tell a life, trying to 455 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: get us free and so so to hear other mothers 456 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: crying and want their son's home and stuff like that, 457 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: I have more of a solid foundation because I've been 458 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: through it. We've been through it. So now this whole 459 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 2: networking system that we have on the team, we all 460 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: work together to make sure we get the best of 461 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: success rate as possible. 462 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: Dominique Lennard just free. Hey, Dominique, Man, I'm telling you something. 463 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: Brother. 464 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know what this interview gonna go, but man, 465 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: you're doing some good work. Man. I met this brother 466 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: in the parking lot and on the campus of University Houston. 467 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: He said, I want to do your show, mister McDonald, 468 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: I said, brother, and I was. I was emailing. I 469 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: had confirmed him and everybody, but he has an O 470 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: in his email address and I didn't know I needed 471 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: to put that O at the end of his email address. 472 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: And I had confirmed him a long time ago. And 473 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: then when he wasn't responding back, I blew him off, 474 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: blew him off. I said, what the heck, I'm trying 475 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: to book this dude, okay, And then I realized I 476 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: made the mistake. I made the mistake, and he I 477 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: finally got it to him. We got everything on and 478 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: he's here to tell the story. How can people get 479 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: in touch with you, my brother before we wrap up 480 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: this call? 481 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, people you're gonna touch me on our website 482 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: which is just free j u f f r ee 483 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 2: dot com. They can call the work number on the 484 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: on the website which just seven one three three oh 485 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: six nine six two zero. They could find me on Instagram, 486 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 2: they could find me on Facebook Dominique Lennard and how 487 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 2: to get a hold of me? 488 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, you know, brother, I'm gonna stay in touch 489 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: at you. 490 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 2: Man. 491 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: It's it's some bigger places for you in life. 492 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 2: Brother. 493 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: All right, this show is interesting for me, man, This 494 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: show is interesting to me. Man. I keep committing. Every 495 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: story gets better, every story gets stronger. I just know 496 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: that that my brother's doing good. He came out with 497 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: an attitude, came out with and know it all made 498 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: a couple of more mistakes. I'm gonna tell you that 499 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: Dominigg he wasn't He wasn't as poured in as you, 500 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: But he got his He's gotten his life right, and 501 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm very happy for him, because everybody deserves a second chance. 502 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: Everybody deserves an opportunity to say I was wrong, because 503 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: that's what that has to be. One of the most 504 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: shameful moments you brought in your life personally, and one 505 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: of the most shameful moments you brought on your family. 506 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: As we close out this show, what do you want 507 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: to say to the general public about you? It's a man, 508 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: and then your program just free. 509 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: What I want to say first of all is that 510 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: me going through what I went through, I had to 511 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: stay strong. I have to pay my way through it. 512 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: I have to turn back from my old ways to 513 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: my new ways. And I would say to anybody who's 514 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: going through anything, there's people right around us who are 515 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: living witnesses that you can overcome. You will get through 516 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: it some way somehow. Just keep living. Because if I 517 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: said there with a life sentence and now I'm free 518 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: able to live life, you can't tell me God ain't good. 519 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: And as far as the program. We make sure we 520 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: humanize every person incarcerator who's dehumanized with a custom parole 521 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 2: package just free dot com. Wow, and thank you for 522 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: having me as well as a blessing. 523 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: You had that number one more time there, Dominate. 524 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: Okay, yes sir, Yes, sir, the phone number seven one 525 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: three three oh six nine six to zero, the website 526 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: just free dot com, jus free dot com. 527 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: Amen. I appreciate you, brother, I really really do. And 528 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: continue winning as I always tell people who call in 529 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: on this show, and we'll talk to you. Okay, thank 530 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: you for calling on Money Making Comings Masterclass. 531 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: Hey man, bye bye. 532 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: Don't go nowhere. We'll be right back with more money 533 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: Making Conversation Masterclass and incredible guests is coming up. I'll 534 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: tell you, man, this show. I hope y'all listening. I 535 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: hope y'all listening. I hope y'all hear the stories we're 536 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: trying to tell everybody about what we're trying to do 537 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: on this show on a regular basis. 538 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 4: This has been another edition of Money Making Conversation Masterclass 539 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 4: posted by me Rashaun McDonald. Thank you to our guests 540 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 4: on the show today and thank you our listening to 541 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: audience now. 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