WEBVTT - Joe's On The List! 

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm strong and Getty and now he Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 3>We reviewed all the information and the American Republic is

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<v Speaker 3>going to get as much as we can release. He

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<v Speaker 3>killed himself. Do you think let's play out the logical

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<v Speaker 3>conclusion of this. Do you think that myself, Bongino and

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<v Speaker 3>others would participate in hiding information about Epstein's grow test activities.

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<v Speaker 4>That's cash Buttel now that he's FBI director saying there's

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<v Speaker 4>no list and we're not hiding anything, and why would

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<v Speaker 4>we be hiding this stuff? So why were they out

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<v Speaker 4>there acting like there was stuff to hide before? Sarah

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<v Speaker 4>Isger of The Dispatch was on ABC this week speaking

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<v Speaker 4>to that Where did.

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<v Speaker 5>Epstain there's money come from? Where did the money now go?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I guess I do still have questions about that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm surprised that again, these people who made a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of money and careers and got their current jobs based

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<v Speaker 5>on this conspiracy theory aren't telling us any of those

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<v Speaker 5>answers that they could have found at the same time

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<v Speaker 5>hiding behind you know, saying, well, we're not going to release,

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<v Speaker 5>for instance, videos of miners or grand jury material that's

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<v Speaker 5>sealed by the court, like okay, but this was your

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<v Speaker 5>bread and butter.

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<v Speaker 4>So she's saying a lot of those people that were

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<v Speaker 4>out there, Pambandi, Cash Hotel, Dan Bongino, you know, he

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<v Speaker 4>got a lot of clicks and got a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>attention by talking about the Epstein thing and how you're

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<v Speaker 4>going to uncover it. But she says, and I've heard

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of and she's a buy the book straight

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<v Speaker 4>shooter Sarah Isger, and I've heard other straight shooters say

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<v Speaker 4>where did this guy get his money? I thought that

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<v Speaker 4>was known. It's not known.

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<v Speaker 2>How will he ended up so wealthy?

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<v Speaker 6>I thought it was he was just a very aggressive

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<v Speaker 6>and savvy financial manager, managed the portfolios the rich people

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<v Speaker 6>and made him tons of money and got a cut.

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<v Speaker 4>But maybe he ended up Okay, now I'm going down

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<v Speaker 4>a complete maybe world. So did he end up managing

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<v Speaker 4>the funds of rich people because hey, I can get

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<v Speaker 4>you a seventeen year old if that's your thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Or was that just his perverse hobby that he could

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<v Speaker 6>indulge when he became so wealthy?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I've assumed all along.

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<v Speaker 6>I do kind of appreciate the side points you made,

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<v Speaker 6>what made which was you having set and fueled this fire?

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<v Speaker 6>Perhaps you would like to join us in putting it

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<v Speaker 6>out now that you have the insider information.

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<v Speaker 4>Right I I'm like President Trump when it came up

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<v Speaker 4>yesterday the last week in a press conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we still talking about Epstein? Really? I feel the

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<v Speaker 2>same way as Trump. Now it was taken by.

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<v Speaker 4>Some in the world of being into Epstein that that's

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<v Speaker 4>part of Trump's cover up. Oh my god, He's compromised

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<v Speaker 4>to which Tucker Carlson. So, Tucker Carlson did an interview

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<v Speaker 4>with somebody on his website show thing that has millions

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<v Speaker 4>of followers, last week, and then he spoke somewhere over

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<v Speaker 4>the weekend and got into the explanation for the whole

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<v Speaker 4>Epstein thing. I don't know if we'll play you the

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<v Speaker 4>whole two minutes, although it's pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I vote yes.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's turning point USA Charlie Kirks's organization, which is

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<v Speaker 6>pretty big.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, oh yeah, there's lots of people that are

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<v Speaker 4>into this. But anyway, Tucker Carlson laying out what's going

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<v Speaker 4>on with Epstein, and.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the truth, for whatever it's worth, in case

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<v Speaker 7>you're interested, is that the DOJ didn't release lots of

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<v Speaker 7>incriminating sex videos with Epstein and his billionaire pals because.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have them. They don't have.

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<v Speaker 7>Them because when the original search warrant was served two

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<v Speaker 7>thousand and seven I think, possibly two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 7>I think seven, it was basically designed to protect Epstein.

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<v Speaker 7>The search warrant was written in such a way to

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<v Speaker 7>make sure that the FEDS never got their hands on

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<v Speaker 7>the actually incriminating evidence. It's another way of saying the

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<v Speaker 7>cover up has been going on since two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 7>almost twenty years.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so that is one of the maybe you believe this,

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<v Speaker 4>but one of the things that people do with conspiracies

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<v Speaker 4>is put in details that make it seem so real,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's two thousand and six, two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 4>not sure on the date there, but you know, stuff

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<v Speaker 4>like that is you throw in nuggets like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, here we go.

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<v Speaker 7>And so the real question is not was Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 7>a weirdo who is abusing girls? Yes, we can answer that.

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<v Speaker 7>The real question is why was he doing this? On

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<v Speaker 7>whose behalf? And where did the money come from? And

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<v Speaker 7>those are the questions that need to be answered. And

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's entirely fair to ask them, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>not adequate to say anyone who asked them is somehow

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<v Speaker 7>desecrating the memory of little girls who died in Texas.

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<v Speaker 7>They're not going to put up with that answer. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't care who gives that answer. That is not acceptable.

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<v Speaker 4>Now was a shot of Trump because Trump said to Texas,

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<v Speaker 4>we're talking about Texas, and you're bringing up Epstein right right.

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<v Speaker 4>That entire chunk of audio was completely incoherent. Was clearly

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<v Speaker 4>Joe's on the list. Okay, so you're part of the deal.

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<v Speaker 4>You're part of a.

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<v Speaker 6>Perfer who preyed on the young girls. Yes, that's clear.

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<v Speaker 6>But why was he doing this? Where did the money

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<v Speaker 6>come from? Why did did he hold his freak coughs?

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<v Speaker 6>Because he's a perv? Where'd the money come from? He

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<v Speaker 6>is a wealthy investment manager more.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think the real answer is Jeffrey Epstein was

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<v Speaker 7>working on behalf of Intel Services, probably not American, and

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<v Speaker 7>we have every right to ask on whose behalf was

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<v Speaker 7>he working.

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<v Speaker 2>How does a guy.

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<v Speaker 7>Go from being a math teacher at the Dalton School

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<v Speaker 7>in the late seventies with no college degree, to having

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<v Speaker 7>multiple airplanes, a private island, and the largest residential house

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<v Speaker 7>in Manhattan. Where did all the money come from? And

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<v Speaker 7>no one has ever gotten to the bottom of that

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<v Speaker 7>because no one has ever tried.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that he's got to be at least somewhat true

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<v Speaker 4>to where the money came from.

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<v Speaker 2>Or Sarah, I Isger wouldn't have said that.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh yeah, I'd like to ask her about that, but

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<v Speaker 6>I found that incoherent.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, Joe is on the list. Listen to him

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<v Speaker 2>cover up.

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<v Speaker 4>He disproved his own case, all right.

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<v Speaker 6>Here are two explanations of how a private school math

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<v Speaker 6>teacher who dropped out of college could become rich and famous.

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<v Speaker 6>Because he was smart, he was fascinated by markets, he

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<v Speaker 6>worked really hard, and he happened to be a really

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<v Speaker 6>charming guy. That is the obvious explanation to me. And

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<v Speaker 6>he also happened to be a perv who preyed on

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<v Speaker 6>underage girls, but he was a typical American success story.

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<v Speaker 6>The alternate, the dark hinting of Tucker for people with

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<v Speaker 6>minds not quite sharp enough to understand what he's doing,

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<v Speaker 6>is that somehow the Israeli intelligence services, because I think

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<v Speaker 6>he gets there eventually, right, the Jews.

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<v Speaker 4>Want to hear that next, and then we can comment on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be very brief.

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<v Speaker 6>But the alternate theory is that somehow clandestine's secret string

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<v Speaker 6>pulling intelligence services identified this math teacher at a private

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<v Speaker 6>school who dropped out of college and thought he the

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<v Speaker 6>one will use well, get him lots of money, and

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<v Speaker 6>he'll pray on little girls, and he'll wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Why him?

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<v Speaker 7>And moreover, it's extremely obvious to anyone who watches that

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<v Speaker 7>this guy had direct connections to a foreign government. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>no one's allowed to say that foreign government is Israel

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<v Speaker 7>because we have been somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowed crowd cheers.

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<v Speaker 7>Into thinking that that's naughty. There is nothing wrong with

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<v Speaker 7>saying that. There is nothing hateful about saying that. There's

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<v Speaker 7>nothing anti Semitic about saying there's nothing even anti Israel

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<v Speaker 7>about saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, yeah, okay, let's hear one more and then we'll comment.

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<v Speaker 1>Who have you seen Pam Bondy. She has never missed

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to go on television and dangle sweet nothings

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<v Speaker 1>that might be coming your way, try to lead you

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that she's got it. It's on her desk,

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming tomorrow, You're going to see something on Epstein.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a tease.

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<v Speaker 1>So you either believe that Pam Bondy was telling the

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<v Speaker 1>truth then or that she's telling the truth now, but

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<v Speaker 1>both cannot be true. She was either lying when she

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<v Speaker 1>went on Fox News all those times saying I've got it,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got it, we're looking at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait until you see it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's horrible, or she's lying in her two page memo

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<v Speaker 1>that they released on a Sunday night at the tail

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<v Speaker 1>end of a holiday weekend to Axios as if Axios

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<v Speaker 1>is where we all go for our news.

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<v Speaker 4>She went to Telly at the speaking of the same

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<v Speaker 4>thing on how Pam Bondy is covering up something so

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<v Speaker 4>or was being a Trump esque promoter back in the day, right,

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<v Speaker 4>she didn't have it. I feel like Megan Kelly, who's

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<v Speaker 4>way more up and up than Tucker. She was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of just hinting that it could be something, but she's

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<v Speaker 4>really she's really just falling back on Pambonni was a

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<v Speaker 4>charlatan playing this game to get all excited, and.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, she was trying to gently come halfway between Tucker

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<v Speaker 6>and the audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>But so Tucker, you know, when he finally gets to Israel,

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<v Speaker 4>crowd cheers like crazy. And there's nothing wrong with looking

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<v Speaker 4>into Israel. That's not a Israel's not a bad word.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not allowed who says we're not allowed to look

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<v Speaker 4>at Israel? And the crowd cheers like crazy. So the

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<v Speaker 4>leaps that get made in the whole Epstein thing, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you just leap with a couple of words constantly. So

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<v Speaker 4>obviously foreign influence. Why obviously back up a second, why

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<v Speaker 4>is there obviously foreign influence?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I missed that part, I guess.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, the idea that a super rich Jewish fellow

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<v Speaker 6>in New York would have some contacts in the Israeli government,

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<v Speaker 6>it's not that crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Getty wants to hear from Steve Bannon here. Steve Bannon, I.

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<v Speaker 8>Would strongly recommend in that because I've argued for this

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<v Speaker 8>from the beginning, that in that arc of looking at

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<v Speaker 8>how the deep state has tried to stop Trump in

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<v Speaker 8>the Maga movement, you can easily fit in the Epstein situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 8>If you want the full release of documents, the special

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<v Speaker 8>prosecutor gets it.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's why.

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<v Speaker 8>Epstein is a key that picks the lock on so

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<v Speaker 8>many things, not just individuals, but also institutions, intelligence institutions,

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<v Speaker 8>foreign governments, and who's working and who was working with

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<v Speaker 8>him on our intelligence apparatus and in our government. This

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<v Speaker 8>is why it's a time for choosing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, a time for choosing over Epstein. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess at this point in my life, I finally

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<v Speaker 4>you know, fully understand what goes on with these conspiracy things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just if you.

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<v Speaker 4>Need a scary thing to blame for just not being

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<v Speaker 4>happy with the world, you go with these things, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's just kind of an amorphous. That's what's causing everything.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like, what do you? And I and I

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<v Speaker 4>and I can't do anything about it, damn it.

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<v Speaker 2>End or it's a mystery and a hobby. There's somebody

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<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Often with that it's yeah yeah, like you like trying

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<v Speaker 4>to figure out who killed JFK.

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<v Speaker 2>That sort of thing, right, it's fun to follow.

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<v Speaker 6>You get that burst of endorphins every time a new

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<v Speaker 6>revelation comes out or somebody can tie Epstein to the

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<v Speaker 6>Jews or or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>The Israelis.

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<v Speaker 6>I love how Tucker will like overtly blame the global

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<v Speaker 6>conspiracy of Jews. And then when you say, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 6>out of bounds, he says, what we can't question the

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<v Speaker 6>Israeli government. Come on, Tucker Allo, people fall for that

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<v Speaker 6>sort of Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I am a modern Bailey argument. Zero concern that there's

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<v Speaker 4>some major thing going on with Epstein? Do you have

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<v Speaker 4>any No, I have zero, I mean like zero, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't even have two percent. I have zero percent concerned

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<v Speaker 4>that there's some major secret being held back from me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just I think you may have nailed it earlier.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh we're on late when you said essentially, people just

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<v Speaker 6>they want a person or people or something in particular

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<v Speaker 6>to blame for the fact that things suck, and not

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<v Speaker 6>just the government is gigantic and bloated nobody's in charge

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<v Speaker 6>of it. It's extremely hard to scale back. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 6>a permanent bureaucracy that serves their own needs in Washington.

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<v Speaker 6>You can call them the deep state if you want.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's not a carefully controlled conspiracy. It's just a

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<v Speaker 6>gig antic bureaucracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of in line with that.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to get to the Teddy Bear with human skin,

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<v Speaker 4>just because I see it ouverall on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey Ynie seven eleven turned ninety eight today on seven eleven,

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<v Speaker 6>and they gave away free slurpees.

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<v Speaker 7>They started this tradition in two thousand and two, which.

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<v Speaker 4>Is also the last time they cleaned their microwaves. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I got two more Epstein nuggets I forgot to throw

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<v Speaker 4>out there.

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<v Speaker 2>One.

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<v Speaker 4>Alan door Schrewitz, the famous lawyer was on Fox all

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<v Speaker 4>the time, says there is a list. He's seen it,

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<v Speaker 4>but he can't speak more about it for legal reasons. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>Holy cow.

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<v Speaker 2>Two.

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<v Speaker 4>This was actually reported by ABC News, their news guy.

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<v Speaker 4>The FBI had hundreds of agents on the Epstein story

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<v Speaker 4>that are now being assigned to other work. Thank god,

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<v Speaker 4>hundreds we're working on the Epstein story, all right. Whatever

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<v Speaker 4>they were.

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<v Speaker 6>Doing Hey, if information comes out that is contrary to

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<v Speaker 6>my beliefs on this, I will take it in. I

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<v Speaker 6>am not I have not predetermined a conclusion. I have

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<v Speaker 6>an open mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of convenience stories, you walk out of a convenience

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<v Speaker 4>store in Victorville, California, and you see that on the sidewalk,

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<v Speaker 4>and what the hell is that?

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<v Speaker 2>A teddy bear with human skin?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, world's worst bedtime story.

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<v Speaker 4>A teddy bear with what looks like it's got human skin.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you how I first became aware of this story.

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<v Speaker 4>I got information through social media. I saw some people

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<v Speaker 4>posting about, oh my god, the cartels are in California.

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<v Speaker 4>They found a teddy bear that had human skin sewed

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<v Speaker 4>into it. It's a message the cartels do in Mexico

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<v Speaker 4>to let people know they're in town and they've taken over.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>And so it's horrifying and oh my god, be careful.

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<v Speaker 6>It says if the childhood classic The Velveteen Rabbit had

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<v Speaker 6>been written by Jeffrey Dahmer.

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<v Speaker 4>Which when I first saw that, because that's how I

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<v Speaker 4>first heard about the story, I thought, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>this is the worst thing I've ever heard in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>That the cartels, so human skin into things to let

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<v Speaker 4>them know, you know, watch out the beloved teddy Bear please. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>he gets a bunch of attention and then ends up

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<v Speaker 4>on a news story and then some store owner who

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<v Speaker 4>runs ans Etsy shop called Dark Seed Creations contacts the

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<v Speaker 4>TV station said, Yeah, that's me, that's me. I make

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<v Speaker 4>these sorts of things. I make all kinds of weird

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<v Speaker 4>macab objects. People really like them. The store has four

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<v Speaker 4>and a half star rating. They sell an array of

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<v Speaker 4>macob objects. Speaking of Jeffrey Epstein, I want everybody who

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<v Speaker 4>buys one on a list, no kidding, all featuring human

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<v Speaker 4>like skin on normal objects, like ties with faces on them,

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<v Speaker 4>or a stomach churning one hundred dollars human leather baseball back.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not real ski and obviously it just looks kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like it. It's it's like stuff you'd get at

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<v Speaker 4>a I don't know halloween shop. How it ended up

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<v Speaker 4>on the sidewalk at the Commune, but it's got nothing

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<v Speaker 4>to do with cartels, and it's not a message that

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<v Speaker 4>we all need to be afraid, very afraid. So just

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<v Speaker 4>let you know from an Etsy store are so many

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<v Speaker 4>ways you can make a living in life, and that's one.

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<v Speaker 6>Apparently macromade potholders human skin covered teddy bears.

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<v Speaker 2>Which will be oh my god, oh jeez, what does

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<v Speaker 2>that have? The big thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, so Trump is going to announce while we're on

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<v Speaker 4>the air today, the big announcement that he's been teasing

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<v Speaker 4>for seventy two hours about going after Russia's money and

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<v Speaker 4>funding and arming Ukraine. So looking forward to whenever that

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<v Speaker 4>announcement comes out.

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<v Speaker 6>Plus, on a lighter note, major pet company decide its

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<v Speaker 6>executives don't have the right catitude. We'll bring you that

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<v Speaker 6>horrifyingly cutesy story next hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, later this hour, how was an annoying term? Armstrong

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<v Speaker 2>and getdy?

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<v Speaker 9>With Russia's assault on Ukraine far from over, a stark

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<v Speaker 9>and surprising shift in President Trump's tone towards Vladimir Putin,

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<v Speaker 9>a man he has often praised, Trump lashing out at

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<v Speaker 9>the Russian president and promising new weaponshipments to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we ought to play that opening clip again with Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>because that's that he was getting on a plane and

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<v Speaker 4>it's getting It's like the.

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<v Speaker 2>Lead clip on all news stories. Play that again, would you?

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<v Speaker 4>Michael?

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<v Speaker 9>I am very disappointed with President Putin.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought he was somebody that meant what he said,

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<v Speaker 4>and you'll talk so beautifully and then I'll bomb people

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<v Speaker 4>at night.

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<v Speaker 6>We don't like that, so we commented on that earlier.

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<v Speaker 6>He surprised a lot of people. Trump said he surprised

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of people by not being what he said.

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<v Speaker 6>He was, okay, by being precisely who he's always been

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<v Speaker 6>and has made infinitely clear he always will be. He

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<v Speaker 6>didn't surprise anybody, but you, I don't think. But that aside,

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<v Speaker 6>if you watch what Trump does, not what he says,

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<v Speaker 6>I like to move toward rearming Ukraine. We're waiting for

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<v Speaker 6>the big Monday announcement as we speak these words about

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<v Speaker 6>what the new policy is toward Ukraine slash Russia, slash

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<v Speaker 6>Russia's major oil trading partners. That's where Trump, I think,

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<v Speaker 6>is really going to bring the hurt.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, specifically India, China, and Brazil five penalty for buying

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<v Speaker 4>oil from Russia.

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<v Speaker 6>So a handful of Ukraine and Russia related headlines that

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<v Speaker 6>I found interesting. First of all, Peggy Noonan's piece in

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<v Speaker 6>the Wall Street Journal, very very beautifully written as usual

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<v Speaker 6>about isol and engagement in the world and Ukraine and Russia,

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<v Speaker 6>and she makes the point, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 6>really good and smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Isolationism is essentially emotional.

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<v Speaker 6>You're angry at the cost in blood and treasure of

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<v Speaker 6>your country's international forays and adventures and want to withdraw

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<v Speaker 6>from the world. Emotionalism can old sway and dominate politics

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<v Speaker 6>for a time, even inn era, but you can't build

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<v Speaker 6>anything on it. It doesn't last because emotions change, because

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<v Speaker 6>facts change. And the problem is, you can quit the world,

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<v Speaker 6>but the world won't quit you. If you tell the

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<v Speaker 6>world earlier in the century America is too uproarious and aggressive,

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<v Speaker 6>we'll stop now, goodbye, the world will not respond by

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<v Speaker 6>saying what geopolitical modesty you're showing?

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<v Speaker 2>Goodbye now and best wishes do you. The world will.

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<v Speaker 6>Instead see new opportunities to continue to do what it does.

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<v Speaker 6>Harry and harass, undermine a perceived foes, interests, provoke and pray,

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<v Speaker 6>And she goes into China and Russian and a bunch

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<v Speaker 6>of others and how Vladimir Putin is a monster of history.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that my favorite troop is waking up to him.

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<v Speaker 4>My favorite pushback on non intervention thing is always you

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<v Speaker 4>can quit, but it doesn't make mean they're gonna quit.

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<v Speaker 4>It'd be nice if you could just I'm out, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>opting out of this whole thing. Okay, well, we'll do

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<v Speaker 4>it on our own and leave you out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>But it doesn't that's not an option.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, Sure, and her final point, at least the final

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<v Speaker 6>point I want to make. But you can bring attitude, well,

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<v Speaker 6>she talks about. Isolationism is not a good strategy. Neither

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<v Speaker 6>is wild foreign interventions and trying to build Jeffersonian democracies

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<v Speaker 6>all across the world. Idiotic anyway. But you can bring

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<v Speaker 6>attitudes and ways of operating. Don't look for trouble, don't aggress,

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<v Speaker 6>build bridges where you can be peaceable and prudent, but

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<v Speaker 6>have hard eyes. Don't carry yourself forward into the world

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<v Speaker 6>with hubris about your grand democratic system. Be quietly proud

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<v Speaker 6>and see to its wholesomeness. Be an example, be a beacon,

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<v Speaker 6>which I thought was good. Then moving along to a

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<v Speaker 6>couple of other things. Patriot systems will be sent to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 6>Trump says, essentially, we're gonna sell them to some of

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<v Speaker 6>our NATO partners and they're going to give them to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 6>Trump is congenitally unable to understand just giving stuff to

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<v Speaker 6>other countries. If you can sell it to them, we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>See how it enfolds. Why not make a buck.

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<v Speaker 6>But again we're waiting for the other aspects of the

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<v Speaker 6>new strategy. I found this interesting purely military tactics wise,

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<v Speaker 6>a never ending supply of drones has frozen the front

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<v Speaker 6>lines in Ukraine. In the Battle for Ukraine's frontline is

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<v Speaker 6>increasingly at a standstill. The reason rapid innovations in drone technology,

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<v Speaker 6>and they mentioned that from just a few at the

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<v Speaker 6>beginning of it, unmanned vehicles now dominate the battlefield.

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<v Speaker 2>Each side has hundreds of.

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<v Speaker 6>Them constantly in the air in the seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 6>fifty mile front. Drones can lay mines, deliver everything from

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<v Speaker 6>ammunition to medication, and then evacuate wounded or dead soldiers. Crucially,

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<v Speaker 6>drones spot any movement along the front line are dispatched

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<v Speaker 6>to strike enemy troops and vehicles. So you can't get

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<v Speaker 6>anything started. You can't use tank columns anymore, right, because

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<v Speaker 6>that was in the early days. It was all about

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<v Speaker 6>tank columns an anti tank weaponry.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard about a speech that Petreeus gave the other day,

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<v Speaker 4>and man, it is a it's so awful that he

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<v Speaker 4>got driven out of public life by the affair and

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<v Speaker 4>sharing classified information with the chick he was having sex

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<v Speaker 4>with and all that, because he's really brilliant. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>he said, the tank is becoming an almost useless piece

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<v Speaker 4>of equipment.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the.

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<v Speaker 4>Dominant war machine for a century and now it's just

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<v Speaker 4>drones have surpassed it. And what has taken its place

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<v Speaker 4>with the evolution of drone technology means large scale assaults

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<v Speaker 4>with tanks have all been abandoned in favor of small

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<v Speaker 4>groups on foot or motorbike. Yes, small assault teams which

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<v Speaker 4>are harder for drones to spot or hit, advance more slowly.

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<v Speaker 2>Though.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, last week I was watching the report about Russia.

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<v Speaker 4>Small groups on dirt bikes and ATV drones are now

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<v Speaker 4>so plentiful again. There are hundreds in the air every

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<v Speaker 4>moment that pilots will attack a single soldier.

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<v Speaker 6>On foot, making rotating soldiers in and out of trenches

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<v Speaker 6>dangerous and creating a mostly static front line.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine how terrifying that is when you're running

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<v Speaker 4>with a couple of drones over your head, just wondering

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<v Speaker 4>at what moment?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh oh, and I read an account in the Wall

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<v Speaker 6>Street Journal last week. I think it was about the

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<v Speaker 6>new fiber optic cable connected drones because you can't use

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<v Speaker 6>radio control drones much because everybody's gotten so good at

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 6>you know, countermeasures, blocking signals, et cetera, scrambling things. And

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<v Speaker 6>it opens with an account of one of the top

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 6>drone pilot dudes who is just a video gamer kid

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<v Speaker 6>when he got recruited controlling a drone that goes under

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<v Speaker 6>an overpass a bridge and sees a Russian soldier sleeping

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<v Speaker 6>like against one of the column under a blanket, and

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<v Speaker 6>he just buzzes the thing up. The guy's totally unaware

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<v Speaker 6>of it in kerbleuy. War's over for that young man.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, just crazy. How do the great powers respond to this?

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<v Speaker 6>What technology is right around the corner? Will this lead

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<v Speaker 6>to more war or less?

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows? Of the key.

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<v Speaker 4>Question being are we going to be on the leading

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<v Speaker 4>edge of it? I'm tempted to, but I won't for

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<v Speaker 4>now get to. China warns of rogue robot troops unleashing

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<v Speaker 4>terminator style indiscriminate killings. So you've got that robot troops, Well,

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:41.199
<v Speaker 4>that's not horrifying robot armies, correct, than this.

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<v Speaker 6>It's actually a profile again in the Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 6>of Eldridge Colby, who a lot of people are have called,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, quite inaccurately, some sort of isolationists because he's

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<v Speaker 6>not pro really really arming Ukraine, but his arguments for

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<v Speaker 6>pivoting instead to countering China and not being distracted by

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<v Speaker 6>smaller regional conflicts and other smaller interests is pretty compelling.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the one that pulled the plug on arms to

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<v Speaker 4>Ukraine a week or so ago, according to most reports,

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<v Speaker 4>without Trump's go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>Right their sources says memo on Ukraine arms requests and

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<v Speaker 6>depleted US stockpiles factored into a temporary suspension of shipments.

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<v Speaker 6>I might not agree with mister Colby on all of

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<v Speaker 6>his conclusions, but boy howdy, we need his voice saying China.

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<v Speaker 6>Focus on China, certainly, as China's every bit as aggressive

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<v Speaker 6>and expansionist as they've ever ever been. It just hasn't

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<v Speaker 6>been the headlines China. I don't, sir, but thank you

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<v Speaker 6>for the renewed warning. And then finally this, I'll just

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<v Speaker 6>hit you with a little of this. I am going

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<v Speaker 6>to be reading the closed captioning of a Russian language

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<v Speaker 6>video It is a Russian soldier calling his mud from Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 6>just to give you a view of those static front

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<v Speaker 6>lines and the efforts to move them and what it's like.

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 6>She asks, how are you there? We're f't What do

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<v Speaker 6>you mean only ten of us left? I deserted? How

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:22.880
<v Speaker 6>come I ran off from the combat zone? Efing hell?

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 6>How come are you efing crazy? Two hundred people went in,

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<v Speaker 6>only ten remain. What do you mean, are you drinking

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:33.679
<v Speaker 6>or something? I'm not drinking, mom, no joke. I bailed

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 6>from the front. Two hundred of us went in, only

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 6>ten left. They just threw us into a meat grinder.

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 6>We tried to assault, but nothing's working. Six regiments have

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<v Speaker 6>already been wiped out, three hundred people. They still think

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm in combat, but I've left the battle. I heard

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 6>someone on the radio, Sam actually killed in action, and

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 6>no one knows where I am. For F's sake, is

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 6>my replies. They don't even collect the bodies. We've been

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 6>walking over corpses since November. That's how it is, mom. Really,

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 6>they're even killing their own here. What number is this?

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.360
<v Speaker 6>The guy messaged you from last time, he's gone, he's

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<v Speaker 6>been killed. He's using somebody else's phone. Oh f of,

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 6>she says. Our guys, corpses from November are still there.

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 6>No one gives an f at all. They told us,

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<v Speaker 6>even if only three of you are left, you'll still

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 6>go in with sapper shovels and try to attack. They

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 6>don't give an f about us. Then they write missing

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 6>an action, don't retrieve the bodies. As for the wounded,

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 6>they said they won't evacuate them anymore. Oh all right, mom,

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 6>I got to get the hell out of here. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>scared what if I get killed?

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Huh? Either way?

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 4>By And that's the history of the way Russia has

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 4>treated their soldiers forever.

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 2>That's just their culture. That's brutal.

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<v Speaker 6>You thousand guys are going to die for your country,

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<v Speaker 6>and here we go, yeah for.

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 4>Your country and quotes. I mean, you're fighting Napoleon, You're

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 4>dying for your country. You're fighting to take Ukraine. Today,

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 4>you're not really fighting for your country, You're fighting for

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 4>one egomaniac's pipe dream.

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Right exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Yeah, I will tell you this. People don't really

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<v Speaker 6>bring Ukraine up in real life to me. Nope, hardly

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 6>at all. No, I'm not sure how much mind to

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 6>share it has in the annoyance at the annoying parlance

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<v Speaker 6>of our time. Speaking of annoying parlance, next hour, probably

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 6>we could do it. Next we can talk about it.

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 6>A major pet company says it's executives might not have

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<v Speaker 6>the right catitude.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I feel like we need to get catitude off

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<v Speaker 4>our plate so we can move on.

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 2>It's going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Just lodge in my craw and then, you know, I

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 4>keep talking about my craw. My craw is really.

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Really really ought to get that looked at.

0:29:57.800 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 4>I got a ointment, but it just doesn't seem to

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 4>be working for my crawl crawl ointment. Okay, stay tuned

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 4>for catitude the right. It's pulling on immigration and how

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 4>we're handling and everything like that.

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll get to that an.

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<v Speaker 4>Hour three, and then some of the stuff around Alligator

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 4>Alcatraz and all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Eighty percent of the coverage of Alligator Alcatraz is because

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<v Speaker 6>of the name. Of course, this, oh boy.

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of ridiculous.

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 4>I didn't say it's a sign. There's actually a sign

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 4>there that says alligator Alcatraz. I thought it was just

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 4>a clever term somebody came up with, But that's actually what.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called it's a good name. Sure, I mean, I'll

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 2>grant you that.

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<v Speaker 6>Speaking of ridiculous inside operation Catitude, a pet food giant's

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 6>mission to understand cats.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing to understand about cats, is there? There is?

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<v Speaker 4>Jack?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, well about cat, which is a term I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>supposed to use.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 2>The you're clearly team dog, Mega team dog.

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 6>Jack your team dog. I've been a lifelong team dog owner.

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 6>I've owned one cat as an adult one as a kid.

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<v Speaker 6>Was very fond of them both. But when it ended,

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 6>it was like, oh that's too bad.

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 2>It was a nice cat. Anyway, what are we having

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 2>for dinner? I'm not sorry I don't like your cat, dude?

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, Well, and look, other people are different and I

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 6>can accept that and I am not going to bad

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 6>mouth them for it.

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I will, I will if you want.

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 6>But well, yeah, it's just let's not hurt any feelings unnecessarily.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>The maker, the giant pet food giant company that makes

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 6>Whiskas food and Temptations treats, had a problem. Cats were

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 6>rapidly catching up to dogs as America's favorite pets.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea of this is Are you sure

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 2>about that?

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<v Speaker 6>It's absolutely true, yes, huh. And they became aware that

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 6>the company was filled with people who were on team dog.

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 6>Essentially they didn't understand cats and cat owners and their relationships. Wow,

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 6>that's like having too many you know, progressives in your company.

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 6>That leans the other direction.

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 4>You got too many dog lovers at your cat company.

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 9>Huh.

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there's a lot to really really hate in this article.

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 6>But that's just smart management. This is the Mars Corporation

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 6>that makes candies and one hundred other How.

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 4>About we have people around here who like cats since

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 4>we make cat products.

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 6>So they launched a mission to get it's dog loving

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 6>workers inside cat's heads. Part of the internal operation called Catitude,

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 6>the maker of bah bah Bah organized visits from vets

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 6>and animal nutritionists. Their PowerPoint presentation, staffers were paired with

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I'd rather swim in a pool filled with

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<v Speaker 6>the boiling hots soul firus urine of satan and say

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 6>this phrase.

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:06.479
<v Speaker 2>That's quite a phrase right there.

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 6>Staffers were paired with cat parents. One afternoon, senior bosses

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 6>walked around the office with cat.

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 4>Ears on the boiling hot sulfurous urine of satan that

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 4>was a good phrase. They walked around the office with

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 4>cat ears on yes.

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 6>Being distracted from the thread their cat parents, the thread

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 6>that the cat parents or their cats are chasing.

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they walked around with cat ears.

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 6>The I'm not a cat. But the goal is to

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 6>reorient the entire team. Here's an interesting revelation. And our daughter,

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 6>our youngest daughter, Delaney is living with us as she

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 6>does an internship. And she has two cats, and they

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 6>are upstairs in her area. And I am very fond

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 6>of them. I like them, I hang out with them.

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<v Speaker 2>I am an.

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 6>Emissary two team cat. She uses the term cat parents

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 6>are my sons because she knows how much it annoys them.

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:17.399
<v Speaker 2>That's funny, my son's But I do like this.

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 6>Occasionally she'll say your grandsons. Then I God, but I

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 6>can attest to the truth of this. They wanted all

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 6>of those people to understand one of cat parents, Oh god,

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 6>there it goes.

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Where's the swimming pool?

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 6>Their main excuse me sources of angst what they call

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 6>feline insecurity, a fear of cat's indifference to their owner's affection.

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 6>If you type does my cat into Google, the autofill

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 6>is immediately love me.

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Does my cat love me. The second is I know

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:54.720
<v Speaker 2>I love her.

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<v Speaker 6>Cat owners, I'm not using that effing other term say

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 6>for too long.

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh blah blah blah.

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 6>The point is all cat owners spend their time being like,

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 6>Fluffy won't come to me today. What the heck, Fluffy,

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 6>I love you, Fluffy, come to me, Fluffy, be nice

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:13.840
<v Speaker 6>to me.

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Cat insecurity they call it. Dogs don't do that to you.

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 4>No, they don't. Dogs care. Cats don't really care. No, well,

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 4>they care entirely on their own terms. I found an

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 4>instructive in parenting and in being a pet owner, not

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 4>parent that children. Small children are like poppies, are like dogs.

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 4>They come to you, they want affection. They're always up

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 4>for it. Teenagers are cats. It's on their terms when

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 4>they want it.

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Don't bother them when they don't.

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 4>Are you gonna feed me or scratch my belly? I

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 4>don't ever scratch their belly.

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 9>But.

0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 6>Anyway, so blah blah blah. They're trying to adjust their

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:01.439
<v Speaker 6>cat to d I.

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 4>Think there need to be harsh penalties for people who

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 4>push their pets around in strollers.

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh what, that dog can't walk? One dog and one

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:13.839
<v Speaker 2>old dog. I will allow it.

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh my God, I think I should turn their attention

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 4>towards people who push their pets around in strollers.

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, you've offended people. I asked you not to