1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Training Camp Cast. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: The Patriots Training Camp Cast is your source for all 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: the news from Patriots training Camp. 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: I do still watch the news. Practice is over, but 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: the writers of Patriots dot. 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 3: Com have you covered? What did I miss yesterday? 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 4: Now here to review today's practice the writers of Patriots 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 4: dot Com. All right, welcome into another edition of the 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 4: Patriots Training Camp Cast. This, of course the fourteenth practice, guys, 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 4: and it was a joint practice with the Philadelphia Eagles. 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: Guys. 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 4: I'm gonna start with just the scene setter. A positive 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 4: scene setter, great crowd, beautiful day, a lot of good 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 4: football being played, a lot of football. 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: I think that's after keep going. 16 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 4: But let's you know, let's let's get down to the 17 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 4: brass tacks of it all. Big picture for me, defense 18 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 4: pretty good today. Patriots offense had their struggles. 19 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll start with the defense because I know 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: Ev was more focused on on the other side. I 21 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: did think the front seven, in particular, I thought did 22 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: a good job sort of establishing the line of scrimmage 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: owning the line of scrimmage. There were some passes completed 24 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: for Philadelphia, but it seemed any time that they looked 25 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: like they were going to get into a rhythm. They 26 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: got some pressure on Jalen Hurts, So I did think 27 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: that that front was was pretty stout throughout the day. 28 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 3: The run stop, I thought Godshaw was mid season form. 29 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: I didn't think that they had much room to run. 30 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 3: So the front seven, I thought defensive was pretty good. 31 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 3: The second area I don't think was really good. But 32 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: you know, we'll get to some bookkeeping stuff. A lot 33 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: of guys missing back there, so you know, maybe to 34 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: be understand, you know, to be expected. 35 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 4: How about that offense, Evan Uh, yeah, well he said 36 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: while talking, Yeah. 37 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: They played out there, no here. 38 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is to me is that 39 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: coming into this practice, you knew that there were some 40 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: clear matchups that favored the Eagles defense over the Patriots offense, 41 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: mainly looking at their defensive front against the Patriots offensive 42 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: line that we know is a work in progress, and 43 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: the Eagles got some dudes up there. I mean, we 44 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: got to all practice about it. Georgie Davis, Jalen Carter, 45 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: Nolan Smith, Bryce Huff coming over from the Jets. They 46 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: have one of the best defensive fronts in the NFL, 47 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: and that's exactly how it played out in practice, and 48 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: then I felt like at times there were some clean 49 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: pockets for Jacob ber said, and he wasn't exactly sharp 50 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: out there with his ball placement in accuracy. So it 51 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: was overall the Eagles definitely controlled the day when the 52 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: Patriots were on offense on the other field. But I 53 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: don't think it's alarmist necessarily, because what did you expect, Like, 54 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: I didn't come into this practice thinking that the Patriots 55 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: offense was going to go out there and light it up. 56 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: So I wish it was a little bit cleaner. 57 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure that Paul will get to this a little 58 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: bit more than I can, But penalties situational stuff more 59 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: than carryover from what we saw yesterday. That's my biggest gripe. 60 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: It's one thing to not exactly be able to block 61 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 2: everybody up front when you're still figuring things out on 62 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: the offensive line. It's another thing to go offside, you know, 63 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: fall start here, fall start there, bad snaps like that 64 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: type of stuff has to be cleaned up. 65 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, that to me would be the biggest disappointment because 66 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 3: I think what Evan said is right. I mean, you're 67 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: sort of building an offense from the ground up and 68 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: you're playing against a team that from a talent perspective 69 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: is super Bowl caliber. Now they have some internal problems 70 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 3: that caused them to lose whatever it was six of 71 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: the last seven last year. So the Eagles are fighting 72 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: through some stuff. But it's not a talent issue. So 73 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 3: you expected there to be some fits and starts offensively, 74 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: but there's no reason to it. I think that we 75 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: counted nine offensive penalties. At least six of those were 76 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: pre snap ball on the ground, on fumbled snaps, ball 77 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: on the ground, you know, on a fake jet sweep. 78 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: You know that Brissette has to dive on the ball. 79 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: So there was just a lot of things that Austin 80 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: Hooper described early in camp as not requiring any talent 81 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: that right now this team is having a hard time executing. 82 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: You mentioned Austin Hooper probably had to pick one guy 83 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: that kind of stood out and certainly was up and down, 84 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: you know, got open middle of field, downfield, Jacoby missed him. 85 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 4: I just want to provide a little context though, for 86 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: Drake May and his final series of a two minute drill, 87 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: and you know, everybody's wondering, Drake May, where's his reps? 88 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 4: And you know, I think he didn't know. I had 89 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 4: an okay practice earlier, but Evan, we got into that 90 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: final period and there was a lot of pressure on him. 91 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 4: It's hard to judge him off of what he's dealing 92 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 4: with out there. 93 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 94 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely. He started this practice nine for nine. Now, some 95 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: of that was seven on seven, but he made a 96 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: really good throw and seven on seven to Jayvon Baker 97 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: down the right sideline on a go route. It was 98 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: a nice play, and then he carried that over for 99 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: the first team period was things were okay and it 100 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: really went off the rails from there, And we don't 101 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: have the luxury of going back and watching practice film 102 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: and all that stuff, so it's always this like difficult 103 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: analysis of is it the quarterback. 104 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: Is it the line? Is it the receivers? Like who's 105 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: that fault? 106 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: For the fact that every single hurry up, it feels 107 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: like with Drake may is kind of a struggle. I 108 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: don't feel like he's been smooth through any of them, 109 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: even against his own teammates in practice, so some of 110 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: that has to fall on the QB. He said after 111 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: practice that he felt like he could have gotten the 112 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: ball out a little bit quicker and avoided those sacks. 113 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: You know, can't take a sack in a two minute 114 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: is what he said exactly. So he's been hard on 115 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: himself about it. But to your point, he had four 116 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: straight plays in the hurry up where they went four 117 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: and out. Three of them were sacks, and from our 118 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: vantage point, you guys can have a different opinion if 119 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: you do. It didn't feel like they had much of 120 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: a chance on the place. Like I'm not talking about 121 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: like he's sitting back there for three and a half 122 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: four seconds holding the ball, it's hit the top of 123 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: the drop and if the ball hadn't been out immediately. 124 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: There was pressure in his face. 125 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: And the third one or the fourth one, I should say 126 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: that was the one throw he got off Kishon booty 127 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: was blanketed and. 128 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: There was really no place to go with the football. 129 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: So it was rough. 130 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: If you look at the stat sheet, it's gonna say 131 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: zero for four with a four and out. And I'm 132 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: not trying to make excuses for him, but the whole 133 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: operation was rough, all eleven guys. And I should mention 134 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 2: that he's still working with the twos, so he's working 135 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: with the backup offensive line and then a mix of 136 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: receivers as well. But mostly just the backup offensive line 137 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: and that has problematic for him. 138 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, just to kind of focus on the defense a 139 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 4: little bit. 140 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: To Paul, I thought they were better. 141 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think, like, you know, look, we saw 142 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: what made Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown and DeVante Smith 143 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 4: so difficult. Of course, the team the individual drills, you 144 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: don't really get into those, but you know, you see 145 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: the connection that they had. There were multiple plays where 146 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: you felt like the Patriots were sending blitzes at them. 147 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts recognized it is able to you know, use 148 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: his mobility, get out and you know, throw a dime 149 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 4: to AJ Brown. Happened a couple of times. But it 150 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 4: felt like once the Patriots kind of moved down into 151 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 4: the low red zone you mentioned, the run defense kind 152 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: of picked up and it just seemed like their intensity 153 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: picked up a little bit and. 154 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 3: They likes the physicality up front on the defensive side, 155 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: you know, on the left hand field. Today, I thought 156 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: Godshaw looked like he was his normal run stuffing, run 157 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 3: stuff ing sseelf. So that kind of stuff is encouraging, 158 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 3: I think, you know, because they're gonna have to replace 159 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: Christian Barmore. You know, you have Matthew Judon as a 160 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: pass rusher who knows, you know, how that whole scenario 161 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: is going to unfold. So I thought that was encouraging 162 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: that they were able to make life a little bit 163 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: difficult on the Eagle at times. And I do think 164 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: the physicality stood out. Your boy, Julia, I've almost called 165 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: him Julius Jabrill Peppers, you know again, I think was 166 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: a tone setter in that regard. Lane Johnson credited him 167 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: with that for the Eagles. So it wasn't like this 168 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: whole just wipeout of a day. I thought they got 169 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: a lot of competitive work in but offensively. Evan's right, 170 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: they got a long way to go. 171 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, same kind of issues, just some housekeeping stuff. At first, 172 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: we saw Marcus Jones and Jonathan Jones come out in pads. 173 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: I didn't see them participate at all, so maybe that 174 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 4: means they're ramping back up. We still think Jonathan Jones 175 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 4: probably could go if it was a regular season, but 176 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 4: otherwise no real returns of note. Hunter Henry did mispractice 177 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 4: as expected, so gave Austin Hooper a little bit of 178 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 4: a chance to do what he did today exactly. 179 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: I thought he was the best weapon on offense. And 180 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: I know that probably sounds like we're damning with faint praise, 181 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: but yeah, Douglas. 182 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: Either him or Pop who did get for you a 183 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: couple of times in Jacoby Brissett's two minute drill. 184 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: But Hooper, some of it was good, some of it 185 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: was bad. 186 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: You know, he had to drop up and then back 187 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: shoulder fade or seem I should say in the end 188 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: zone that I thought he caught and then all of 189 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: a sudden the Eagles were celebrating and they had the ball. 190 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, one of those like tip drill situations. 191 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: But he was open. You know, he was getting open 192 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: and opened down the field as well. So whether it's 193 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: Hooper Henry when he's been healthy, I feel like Hunter 194 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: Henry's had opportunities as well. It does seem like this 195 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: offense in this system gets the tight end open quite 196 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: a bit. You know, David and Jok who had huge 197 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 2: years in this offense in Cleveland, So those opportunities are 198 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: going to be there. It's it's really the stuff up 199 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: front and then obviously the stuff on the outside that 200 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: they're still searching for. 201 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: Best player in the field to me though, was was 202 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: aj Brown yeah, I thought he was a going concern 203 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: any anytime they didn't get pressure on Hurts, it seemed 204 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: like it was either either Brown or Smith making I 205 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: thought pretty routine catches. 206 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 4: Yea, A trust is clear between Jalen Hurts and A. J. 207 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: Brown. 208 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 4: Well, I think this is going to do it for 209 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 4: the Patriots training camp cast. This is the last official 210 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: day of open practices. We're not sure that we'll be 211 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 4: other practices, not sure if we're going to get to 212 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 4: watch them all report on them. So for all intents 213 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 4: and purposes, this might be it for the last time 214 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 4: we really see the Patriots play. Behind the scenes. Of course, 215 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: big game on Thursday night, we'll be curious to see, 216 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: you know, Drake May's reps as you get some chance 217 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 4: with the ones on the offensive line. Give them a 218 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 4: little bit more time plenty to digest here over the 219 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 4: last couple weeks as the Patriots get ready to close 220 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 4: things out against the Eagles and then next weekend against 221 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 4: the Commanders. 222 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: So stay tuned. 223 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 4: We'll keep you posted here on Patriots dot com. 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