1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Welcome in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. You can 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: search out my name Clay Travis, you can search out 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: Buck Sexton. You will be well on your way to 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: being able to follow not only us, but the entire 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck podcast network, which has grown and continues 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: to expand substantially. 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All right, I want to tell all 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: of you about a crazy, unbelievable story that I think 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: Buck knows a little bit about. By the way, two 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: thirty at the bottom of this hour, we'll give you 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,639 Speaker 2: the absolute latest on the big beautiful Bill. James Blair 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: from the White House is going to join us. Also 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: reports that Trump is going to make an announcement around 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: three Eastern related to the Golden Dome Protective Missile Defense 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: shield that he and Pete Hegseth are working alongside of. 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: We've got the original Sin book coming out, although it feels, 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Buck, a bit muted, like 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: they fired all of their proverbial bullets in the days 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: leading up to that book and there is not a 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: ton left there. 33 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: But we will see. 34 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: I haven't seen any new blockbuster revelations surrounding that book today, 35 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: and we have the charges fired filed again. Congresswoman Lamonica 36 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: McIvor from the tenth Congressional District of New Jersey. A 37 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: lot of you weighing in on that, James Comy on MSNBC. 38 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 2: We have hit a lot of different things. This is 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: a crazy story, and sometimes I hit Buck with crazy 40 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: stories that he is not familiar with, and this is 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 2: a truly crazy story. So a lot of you out 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: there are big fans of Kaitlyn Clark, former Iowa women's 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: basketball player. She has made women's basketball matter more in 44 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: college basketball and the WNBA than at any point in 45 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: my life. The audience is massive for her. Lots of 46 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: people are big fans of Kaitlyn Clark. They played a 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: game over the weekend and she committed a foul of 48 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: Angel Reese. These two went head to head back when 49 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: LSU played Iowa. They have got a rivalry. A lot 50 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: of people watch this game over the weekend, especially considering 51 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 2: it's a women's basketball game. WNBA game. Two point seven 52 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: million viewers most watched w NBA game on ESPN. I think, ever, 53 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: so a lot of people care about this foul was 54 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: called at on a would be layup attempt. Kaitlin Clark 55 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: fouls Angel Reese, and the sports media has completely lost 56 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: its mind ever since that moment. So Angel Reese reacts 57 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: crazily runs after Caitlin Clark. Robert Griffin the third who 58 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: is a who is a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback, drafted 59 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: in the first round in the NFL. He was attacked 60 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: by an ESPN employee. And I think this is important story. 61 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: Somebody say the sports story. No, I think it's a 62 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: culture story as much or more than it's a sports story. 63 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: Robert Griffin the third buck said, the reason that Angel 64 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: Reese reacted that way is because she hates Caitlin Clark. 65 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark is a better player, makes more money, more popular, 66 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: all those things, and he said this was based on hate. 67 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: Ryan Clark, who is employed at ESPN, fired back and said, 68 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: the reason Robert Griffin IID had that. 69 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: Opinion is because he has a white wife. 70 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is real. So Robert Griffin, third black guy 71 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: married to a white woman. Ryan Clark said, the reason 72 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 2: that he said Angel Rehees reacted emotionally and was fueled 73 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: by hate is because he's married to a white woman. Well, 74 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: this did not go over well with Robert Griffin, IIRD, 75 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: who posted what I thought was an epic takedown yesterday. 76 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: This has turned into a big story. I think it's 77 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: a cultural story, not only a sports story. The team 78 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: pulled the audio. Listen to this. 79 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: Ryan Clark personally attacking me and my family because he 80 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 3: disagreed with my sports opinion is a bad look for ESPN. 81 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: It's cowardly, it's spine us, and it's weak. Ryan Clark 82 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: personally attacking me and my family personally because he disagreed 83 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: with my sports opinion is a bad look for him 84 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: as a man. I hope you get to help. You 85 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: need brother, all. 86 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: Right now, Buck, I just want to toss this to you, 87 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 2: because this is blown up. It's everywhere. If if any 88 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: white guy said the reason a black guy has an 89 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: opinion is because his wife is black, that white guy 90 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: or that white woman would get fired. 91 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: And they would never work in sports. 92 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: Again, it's rare that I see a story and I'm like, oh, 93 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: I can't believe this is real. I legitimately can't believe 94 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: that one guy attacked another guy and said the reason 95 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: he has the opinion is because of the race of 96 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: his wife. But when you see a story like this, 97 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: and again I would encourage you. I've shared the videos. 98 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 2: You can go watch this. Rg THII basically argues this 99 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: should have nothing to do with race, right, Like, again, 100 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: it's a women's basketball foul and it's just set off 101 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: nuclear war and it's not even really sports so much 102 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: as it is culture. 103 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: Now, well, a. 104 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: Big part of this whole conversation, And you're right, you know, 105 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: Clay brings a story to my attention when it's in 106 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: the sports world, and he realizes that I'm gonna say, 107 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: oh no, that is a I agree with you. It's 108 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: a broader cultural, broader social commentary thread that runs through this, 109 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: which is why it's getting so much attention. First, this 110 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: is something of an aside. Would Clay and I agree on 111 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: this one. You know, when you work in media, you 112 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: get used to people saying things about you that are untrue, 113 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: and people attacking you and all of that. I think 114 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: for any red blooded American male who works in media, 115 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: who has any backbone at all, you randomly bring somebody's 116 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 2: like you randomly bring someone's wife into it. It would 117 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: never occur to me in a million years, and I 118 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: would be ashamed. I mean, it would just never happen, right, 119 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: to bring somebody's wife into something that you know, it's 120 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton was trying to be president, right, like it's 121 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: Bill Clinton's wife. What we understand when you bring someone's 122 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: family that has nothing to do with it into it 123 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: just to take a swipe at them, you've crossed a line. 124 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: Even in media, you've crossed a line. And I think 125 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: that mister r G three handled it very well. I 126 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: thought his statement was excellent. But really, the the Caitlin 127 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: Clark issue is fascinating because it shows the depth of 128 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: what a lot of people have as racial resentment toward her. Yes, 129 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: and a lot of a lot of w NBA players do, 130 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: perhaps some portion of some some of the fan base. 131 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: I don't think that's really the case overall, because she's 132 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: so popular in the fan base is so happy to 133 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: have a marquee star like her. But I mean, I 134 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: also have to say, I just think the w n 135 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: B A and this is not groundbreaking. It's just not 136 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: a very good product to watch on television, and women's 137 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: basketball for me is just not fun to watch. 138 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: Clay I went to a and I will say. 139 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: Whereas, by the way, I sometimes prefer watching women's tennis, 140 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: not for that reason any of you out there, but 141 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 2: because as an amateur tennis player, I love the game. 142 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: The women's game moves at a pace and has tactics 143 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: that are far more translate, a. 144 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: Powerful and more of the rallies. 145 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: And I'm never gonna hit one hundred and thirty mile 146 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: an hour serve and one hundred and you know, twenty 147 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: mile an hour second serve. It's just never gonna happen. 148 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: And that's a huge part of the men's game. The 149 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: women's game is much more about the groundstroke, tactics, right, 150 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 2: and so so anyway, and you know, so women's tennis, 151 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: for example, I think is a great product. It's not 152 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 2: about men and women. But some women's basketball I think 153 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: is not a very good product. But the fact that 154 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: their resentment of Caitlin Clark is so strong that even 155 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 2: though she brings money and attention. You tell me about 156 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: the ratings. I mean, I don't pay attention to this stuff, 157 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: but astonishingly high ratings for a league that has always struggled, 158 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: you know, And and all of a sudden, there's all 159 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: this there's all these people who are saying that that's 160 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,359 Speaker 2: not good or they don't like that. So the resentment 161 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: point is obvious. And the fact that RG three would 162 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: make that point that there is something Bill So I've 163 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: played enough basketball to know it was a standard basketball foul. 164 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: The wide open layup. 165 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark fouled her, Angel Reese reacted crazily like she 166 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 2: wanted to fight her. What is the reaction based on, Hey, 167 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: you know she did we start to have yeah, but 168 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: we need to start to have conversations. It's not okay 169 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: to resent anybody based upon their race, or have resentment 170 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: against any race, no matter what what race you are. 171 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: And you know, this also comes up in the context 172 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: Clay of the South African africaner migrants. All of a sudden, 173 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: there's a problem. There's fifty of them, and all of 174 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: a sudden, there's a problem with bringing a to bring 175 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: white migrants into America. That that's the actual feeling that 176 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: a lot of the country has a lot of democrats 177 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: and leftists in particular have and that's not okay. And 178 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: I don't think a white girl should be you know, again, 179 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: I'm taking the sort of quoting the perspective here. It's 180 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: not how I feel, but someone's saying, I don't think 181 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: a white girl should be the premier player in the 182 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: w NBA because why because she's white. 183 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: That's also not okay. That's also not okay. 184 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: You know, I've started watching basketball again, NBA basketball, and 185 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: you know, I think it's remarkable, like no one even 186 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: cares really about it. But I think there's a strong 187 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: case be made the best player in the NBA right 188 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: now is white. 189 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: Maybe that's two or three. 190 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: I mean, you can argue that Jokic and donchik Luka 191 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: are the two best players in the NBA right now. 192 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: Not a crazy tag and. 193 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: I think every I think all the other players are 194 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: like those guys have a lot of game, and like 195 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: I respect them, and. 196 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: It's it's just it's just about who's the best. 197 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if they're the best, a fine one should 198 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: be other guys want to beat them. And there are 199 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: plenty of minority representation in the NBA obviously, so it's 200 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: not like that's an issue. But in the w NBA, 201 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: this resentment has been allowed to has been allowed to 202 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: kind of grow for too long, I think, and this 203 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: is a this is something that should be spoken about 204 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: openly because it's not it's just not right. It's just 205 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: not it's not ethical. Let me also mention two things. 206 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: One think about how if tennis had welcomed Venus and 207 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: Serena like this, right, Tennis, let's be honest, usually a 208 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: white sport. If golf had welcomed Tiger like this, it 209 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: would have been seen as unacceptable. They are a different race, 210 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: but they are playing at a dominant level. And tennis 211 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 2: and golf both benefited immensely from Venus and Serena. I 212 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 2: would say those leagues actually open arms, biggest endorsements imaginable. 213 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: Please please, let's sort of expand the uh, you know, 214 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: the the audience, the audience, and everybody benefited, right like 215 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: Tiger Woods made everybody in golf Richard because more people cared. 216 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: Well. 217 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: Cayler Clark's doing that in WNBA. They aren't responding well. 218 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: Bobby Barack, who does really good work at OutKick, one 219 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: of our writers, has a story coming to OutKick. A 220 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: bunch of ESPN guys are upset about what Ryan Clark did. 221 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: Listen to these quotes. Imagine how RG three's little Black 222 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: Girls feel. He has four daughters seeing a prominent figure 223 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: claim their father lacks empathy for black women. Another former 224 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: former player turned ESPN analyst said, Ryan Clark's a former player. 225 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: There are two rules in the locker room. You don't 226 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 2: talk about a man's girl or their money. That crap 227 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't fly face to face. So this is turning into 228 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: a big story, and it's all coming out of a 229 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 2: w NBA foul, which again speaks to the amount of 230 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: attention that's on Caitlin Clark. I think it's overall good 231 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: for the league, but to your point, Buck, it's also 232 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: exposing the ugly underside under belly of the WNBA, which 233 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: is a league that would rather many of these women, 234 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: it appears, fail being led by minorities than have success 235 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: with a white girl near the top, which is is very, 236 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: very troubling, and people should be able to speak about 237 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: this because you know, it's also unfair. I bet there 238 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: are plenty of w NBA players who love the idea 239 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: of their being more, including a lot of you know, 240 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: black WNBA players who are just like more eyeballs, please, 241 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: more money, please, like let's grow our league. But some 242 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: of the stars who weren't very big stars before because 243 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 2: of what the league was, but some of them have resentment. 244 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 2: And the resentment isn't about oh, she's not better than 245 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 2: me or I think you know, it's about she's a 246 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: white girl and that's not okay. I think that's right. 247 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: But so pay attention to this story. It may be 248 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: percolating up in many of your universes. It is blowing 249 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 2: up in a big way, and I wanted to tell 250 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: you all about it because I think it's not only 251 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: a sports story. 252 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: More importantly, it's a culture story. 253 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: Now, the last thing anybody wants is to burden their 254 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 2: family when they pass. That's why having a trust or 255 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: a will is essential. 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That's t the number 290 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: two T dot org. 291 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. We'll bring you 292 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: here in a few minutes. 293 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: Some really good stuff from a courtesy of Secretary of 294 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: State Rubio Up on Capitol Hill, squaring off with some 295 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: members of Congress who don't realize that this Rubio Rubio, 296 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: I guess two point zero or three point oho maybe 297 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: is dialed in, is ready for the fight, and is 298 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: totally aligned with the Trump administration on matters of policy 299 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: and has really learned Clay. I think if you're looking 300 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: at somebody who gets the most improved award for how 301 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: to handle the media and maybe learning in no small 302 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: measure from how Trump handles them, Rubio has done really, 303 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: really well. So we'll get to some of this coming 304 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: up here in a little bit. We've also got a 305 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: James Blair White House Deputy Chief of Staff going to 306 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: join us here in a few minutes. We can ask 307 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 2: him about both the believed announcement or reported announcement coming 308 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: about the Golden Dome, which is like an iron dome 309 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: except golden figure, and we'll talk him about that, and 310 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: then also the Big Beautiful Bill. 311 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: Do we know is that real question? Is that going 312 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: to be the name? 313 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: You know, there's always an actual bill name, right, like 314 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: there was the Affordable Care Act for Obamacare. If the 315 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: Inflation Reduction Act can actually increase inflation, then I think 316 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: the Big Beautiful Bill is a fair name. What could 317 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: be more Trump than the signature legislation of his first 318 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 2: year of a second term is the big beautiful bill. 319 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: It's amazing, some people are saying, so, yeah, I think 320 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: that that could be a lot of fun. 321 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 2: We'll dive into some of the details on that and see, 322 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: you know, what's what, what's going on with it? 323 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 324 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 2: Sometimes I catch Clay he's so deep in thought. I'm like, Okay, 325 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: are you about to take us on? 326 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: I thought we were going to play. 327 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: I thought we were gonna play the rubio going on 328 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: if that we had it yet, I wanted to play 329 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 2: it too. 330 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: We do we do? Well? No, it's no, not ready. See, 331 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: it's a timing. 332 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: So we're going to talk with the White House when 333 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: we come back, and we will find out what we 334 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: think the timing is on this bill. Initially, the hope 335 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: was that they would get it done by Memorial Day. 336 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: Now there seems to be a suggestion that it might 337 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: be bumped back a bit more. We'll get the absolute 338 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: latest there, and like you said, the Golden Dome, uh, 339 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: the which been obviously very successful in Israel, remaining under 340 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: contemplation but maybe officially announced here in the next thirty 341 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: minutes or so. 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We are 365 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: joined now by James Blair, White House Deputy Chief of Staff, 366 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 2: aka the Oracle, joining us now. All right, So that's 367 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: a pretty cool nickname, and I imagine that doesn't stink 368 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: to be the White House Chief of Staff deputy that 369 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: is the known as the Oracle. So let me ask 370 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 2: you for your predictions, Oracle, on how the Big Beautiful 371 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: Bill is going to go and what should this audience 372 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 2: know about it from your perspective. 373 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 4: Appreciate that going to be with you, guys. I think 374 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 4: that the Big Beautiful Bill will get out of the 375 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 4: House this week. I think that obviously, if it gets 376 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: out of the House this week, then it will go 377 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 4: over to the Senate. They'll work on it for a 378 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: few weeks, and the goal is to get it on 379 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 4: the President's text by July fourth, which I think will happen. Look, 380 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 4: we've got to get this done. This bill has so 381 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 4: much to love, guys. First of all, let's talk about 382 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 4: the border first and foremost, which nobody's talking about anymore 383 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 4: because the President has driven illegal border crossings to zero 384 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 4: since he came into office. But this bill funds border 385 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 4: enforcement adds ten thousand new ICE officers, gives them pay raises, 386 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: gives us everything we need logistically to not only keep 387 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 4: the border secure for the president's entire term in office 388 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 4: so we don't have to come back and do this again, 389 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 4: but also to deport people and get millions of illegal 390 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 4: immigrants out of this country, which is something that a 391 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 4: majority of the American people support. Secondarily, it gives us 392 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 4: the one thing we need for our military. You know 393 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 4: that the President is involved in complex negotiations across the 394 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 4: globe to bring peace that's backed up through strength. And 395 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 4: it gives us the funding to modernize our military and 396 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 4: make sure it's the most lethal fighting force in the 397 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 4: world for the foreseeable future. But then the big thing 398 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 4: that it does that everyone's talking about is the tax cuts. 399 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 4: This renews the President's historic tax cut from twenty seventeen 400 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 4: that was the biggest in history, and then adds more 401 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 4: taxes on top everything he campaigned on. No tax on tips, 402 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 4: no tax on social security, no tax on overtime pay. 403 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 4: It will be the single largest tax cut for middle 404 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 4: and working class Americans in the history of the country, 405 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 4: and it will do that while still generating more than 406 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 4: a trillion dollars right now one point seven trillion dollars 407 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 4: in savings for the American taxpayer, which is twice as 408 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 4: much savings that has ever been delivered by Congress in 409 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 4: the last thirty years, and that was almost thirty years 410 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 4: ago under Bill Clinton. So we're getting the country's fiscal 411 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: house in order. We're giving people money back in their 412 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 4: pocket that they are We're deregulating, we're unleashing energy, we're 413 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 4: securing the border, were rebuilding the military. We're doing what 414 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 4: President Trump campaigned on plane and simple. So there's still 415 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 4: some little issues being worked out with a few guys 416 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 4: at the edges, but in the big picture, I think 417 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 4: we're right on track and I think we'll get everybody there. 418 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 2: James, appreciate you being with us, and certainly a lot 419 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: to be excited about that is in this bill. For 420 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: those who are concerned about the debt, who want the 421 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: spirit and action of Doze to be enshrined in some 422 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: way in this bill, what do you say to them 423 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: and what can we point to that deals with getting 424 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: that fiscal house in order, not just for this year 425 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: but in the longer term. 426 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, great question. Well, first of all, it's important to 427 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 4: note that this is by far the biggest savings, which 428 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 4: I mentioned a minute ago, but let's put some points on. 429 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 4: I'm back in the back when Bill Clinton was president, 430 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 4: Congress passed a package that saved like eight hundred billion 431 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 4: dollars and spending cuts. Okay, this one's looking like one 432 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 4: point six one point seven currently they'll still be you know, 433 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 4: iterated on a little bit as it goes through the 434 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 4: Senate and everything, but more than double. Okay, Congress literally 435 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 4: has not done anything like that in over thirty years. 436 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 4: So right there, those are the biggest savings that we've 437 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 4: ever seen. We're doing something called recisions, which is the 438 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 4: stuff that dojes found this bad stuff. We go out 439 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 4: of Congress votes on it, and what's called a recisions 440 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: package that's actually separate from this bill, but then it 441 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 4: permanently pulls out that stuff out of the budget. Okay, 442 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 4: there's savings, and then in that and then you know 443 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: what's not counted in this bill, and it's just a 444 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 4: stupid quirk of how legislative scoring works is tariff revenue. 445 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 4: The president is bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars 446 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 4: of tariff revenue right now, and that money's not being spent. Okay, 447 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: that money's not being spent in the big beautiful bill 448 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 4: or anything else. That's just money and the treasury that 449 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 4: goes straight to deficit reduction. So sometimes, you know, when 450 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 4: they call it the congressional budget off, which kind of 451 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 4: puts out the church, they're not being honest because they 452 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 4: don't add in the tariff for revenue and some of 453 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 4: the recisions and the different things that are happening, so 454 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 4: you're not really seeing the full picture. But the fact 455 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: is this is a huge step in the right direction 456 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 4: for getting the country on a better fiscal footing, and 457 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 4: we're unlocking growth. You know, there's three things we have 458 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 4: to do really to get to a balanced budget, which 459 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 4: the President hopes to achieve at some point before he 460 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 4: leaves office. But you know, at least in the foreseeable future, 461 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 4: we've got to grow. Okay, We've got to unleash our economy. 462 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 4: We do that through tax cuts, we do that through deregulation, 463 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 4: we do that through getting government out of the way. 464 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 4: We're doing that, right, that's partly the President, partly Congress 465 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 4: partly doge all of those things combined. Second, we got 466 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 4: to do spending reductions. I already told you the historic 467 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: nature of those spending reductions that we're doing. And then 468 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 4: the third thing is we've just got to deregulate, and 469 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 4: we've got to bring more jobs in. And ultimately, you know, 470 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 4: in twenty seventeen, we actually collected more money in taxes, 471 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 4: which improved the fiscal picture as a result of the 472 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 4: tax cuts then we would have if we didn't have 473 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 4: the tax cuts. That's because more jobs were created, more 474 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 4: people were paying taxes. So we've got to add revenue. 475 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 4: The tariffs are doing that. We've got to cut taxes, 476 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 4: we've got to cut regulation, unlock the economy through growth. 477 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 4: We're doing that, and then we've got to do spending reductions. 478 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 4: It's going to take all three of those things concerted 479 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 4: effort over a period of time. But if we just 480 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 4: stick through it here and we are able to do 481 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 4: it for four years instead of two, which means we 482 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 4: have to win the House majority back in the midterms, 483 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 4: then we'll be able to really be on a great 484 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 4: sustainable fiscal path. So I think we're on the path, 485 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 4: but you know, it's not all going to be done 486 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 4: in one bill. We're going to have to do a couple, 487 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 4: and this is a monumental first step, way bigger than 488 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 4: anyone expected months ago. So we're really proud of that, 489 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 4: and we just got to get it done. 490 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: We're talking to James Blair, White House Deputy chief of Staff. 491 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: You mentioned the border. I also think this is important, 492 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: and the tax cuts expire. So for people out there 493 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: who don't realize this, what happens if the bill doesn't pass. 494 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 4: Well, if this bill doesn't pass, First of all, economic 495 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 4: forecasters are said, we're going into a recession because taxes 496 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 4: are going to go through the roof. All of these 497 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 4: tax cuts we passed in twenty seventeen will go away 498 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 4: at the end of this year. Okay, So the average 499 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 4: family is going to pay thousands more in taxes if 500 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: the bill doesn't pass. Next year, businesses are going to 501 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 4: pay thousands more in taxes. We're not going to have 502 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 4: the money to secure our border. 503 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: Okay. 504 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 4: All of these terrible things are going to happen. It 505 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 4: will be the largest tax hike in history if. 506 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: This bill doesn't. 507 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 4: So that's just not an option. 508 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 5: Right. 509 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 4: If we don't extend the debt ceiling, the country's going 510 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 4: to default on its debt, which could drive us into 511 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 4: a global depression. Right, this is not our fault, this 512 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: is Joe Biden's fault. We're just here cleaning up the mess. 513 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 4: And that's what we have to do. It's not anything 514 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 4: anybody wants to do. It's something that we have to do. 515 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 4: The country can't default on its debt or people would 516 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 4: pay the price in a massive way I don't think 517 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 4: any of us can even fathom. And then on the border, look, 518 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 4: we've got to ultimately have money to pay for planes 519 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 4: and law enforcement to get people out of the country, 520 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 4: and that money is coming in this bill, and that 521 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 4: is such a critical piece. Everyone needs to understand that 522 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 4: illegal immigrants in this country level that Joe Biden brought 523 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 4: in are a huge drain on our system. When you 524 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 4: talk about the spending, I mean hundreds of billions of 525 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 4: dollars being cost by illegal immigrants being in this country 526 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: and being on public programs are in place for American citizens. 527 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 4: When we get them out of the country, that's actually 528 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 4: going to lower our spending levels massively without doing a 529 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 4: single thing. One of the changes in the Big Beautiful 530 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 4: Bill will be getting millions of illegal immigrants off of Medicaid. Okay, 531 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 4: they're costing medicaid billions of dollars a year. So the 532 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 4: open borders that we have, we have to not only 533 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 4: have the border secure, but we got to get these 534 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 4: people out so they stop draining our public resources. All 535 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 4: of this stuff has to work together to get our 536 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 4: country on the right fifth path forward. 537 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 2: Appreciate you being with us. Thank you so much for 538 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: giving us some of the details on the big beautiful bill. 539 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: What can you give us a census to what this 540 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: announcement is supposed to be about the Golden Dome. 541 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 4: I'm going to let the President break that news, but 542 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 4: it's very exciting stuff. Look, the President and something he's 543 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 4: talked about for a long time. The President wants to 544 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 4: make make sure the homeland is secure. He wants to 545 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 4: make sure that other countries are deterred from ever thinking 546 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 4: about even remotely thinking about attacking our country. So it's 547 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 4: all part of his vision of having the most lethal 548 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 4: fighting force in the world. And that is what really 549 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 4: gives us the leverage to sit at the table and 550 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 4: demand peace not only for ourselves and our allies, but 551 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 4: everywhere across the globe and the world has been better 552 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: off when America has been strong in the world, and 553 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 4: that is part and parcel. Having a strong military is 554 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 4: part and parcel of that effort peace through strength. 555 00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for the time. 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We'll save some of those 592 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: details for tomorrow's show. 593 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: He is on our friend Megan Kelly's program, and she 594 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: is She is making the case in case we've been 595 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: making all along, which is that he was part of 596 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 2: the calm. He's the wrong guy. To be coming forward 597 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: presenting this as though this is truth telling. It's a 598 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: day late and a dollar short and then some and 599 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: yeah so we should. We'll get into some of that tomorrow. 600 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: But I mentioned this Rubio take, and I just think 601 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: this is great Rubio. It's who is the who is 602 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: the loser? Who was gonna be Hillary's VP? I just 603 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 2: know him by face, Tim Kane, Thank you, Tim Kaine, 604 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: Tim Kain. Here he is trying to press Rubio on 605 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: the africaner refugees from South Africa, fifty of them, not 606 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: even you know, it's not. 607 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: Even a big deal. But here you go. Here's how 608 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: Secretary Rubio handles it. Give him a plus. 609 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask you, what so a well justified fear 610 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 5: of persecution. 611 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, they thought that their farms being burned down, the 612 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 6: would be killed. I think that's a pretty good justification 613 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 6: for wanting to come. 614 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: They're fat for their lives. 615 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 5: And should it be applied in an even handed way, 616 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 5: that's an easy our. 617 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 6: Foreign that ourse. It doesn't require even handedness. The prioritizing 618 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 6: the United. 619 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 5: Phrase says you were entitled to entrance as a refugee 620 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 5: if you demonstrate a well justified fear of persecution, and 621 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 5: not entirely I have a different standard based upon the 622 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 5: color of somebody's skin. 623 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: Would that be. 624 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 6: Except well, I'm not the one arguing that. Apparently you 625 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,719 Speaker 6: are because you don't know the fact that they're right. 626 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 5: Whether to say that that would be no, I would 627 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 5: say a very easy thing. 628 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 6: The United States has a right to pick and choose 629 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 6: who they allow. 630 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 5: It to be, even based on the color of somebody's skin. 631 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 6: You're the one that's talking about the color of their skin, 632 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 6: not me. These arms turned down and they were killed 633 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 6: in hand the color of their skin. Well, well, you've 634 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 6: demonstrated enough because you think anyone should be allowed into 635 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 6: this country for any reason, because they who has said 636 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 6: that we are going to prioritize people that come into 637 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 6: our country on the basis of what's in the interest 638 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 6: of this country. That's a small number of people that 639 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 6: are coming. 640 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: But said this week and in other wars, it's. 641 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 6: Harder to vet and in other case that's more difficult. 642 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 6: But by the way, the United States submits people every year. 643 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, just just I like it. Don't give an inch, 644 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: stick to the truth, stay on it. Don't let them 645 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 2: do the usual nonsense here Glaid. You remember, this will 646 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 2: sound like a diversion, but it actually it actually ties in. 647 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 2: Do you remember their movie Hook with Robin Williams. Remember 648 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 2: that it's a good movie. Remember the the the guy 649 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: who's sort of the replacement for a while for Peter 650 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: Penn is Rufio, and they're all chanting Rufio, Rufio. That's 651 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: I want to do that for Rubio here, like Rubio Rubio, 652 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: because he's kicking ass, and he's saying what needs to 653 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 2: be said, which is you, senator, don't like that we 654 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 2: took white refugees, Just say it it. Also, I think 655 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 2: is symptomatic of how good the Trump cabinet is at communication. 656 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: Whatever you think about the arguments that they are making, 657 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: they are making the most efficient and effective version of 658 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: those arguments. Whether it is with Pete Hagsat that defends, 659 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: whether it's with Rubio at Secretary of State, among many others, 660 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: Vice President J. D. 661 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: Vance. 662 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 2: There is a collection of elite communicators younger oftentimes than 663 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: a lot of the oligarchs. Oligarchs of the old elder 664 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 2: groups of of the Congress right and Democrats are actually 665 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: quite a lot older on average than Republicans are, and 666 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: so I think it just comes across as younger and 667 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 2: more energetic. And certainly you can talk about Telsea Gabbard, 668 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 2: you can talk about Pambondi and Christy Nome. I mean, 669 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 2: this is a I think elite level of communication that 670 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 2: is taking place, and I know Trump loves the conflict. 671 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 2: And so when Rubio just goes out there and stands 672 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: up as aggressively as he is, It's why Trump said, 673 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: in particular, who takes over after You're gone? He mentioned 674 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: Jade Vance and he mentioned Marco Rubio as two guys 675 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: that were standing out at an elite level to him. 676 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 2: I just you know, there's a there's a lot of 677 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 2: great picks, you know. I was a huge JD supporter 678 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 2: early on. I predicted it and also said it would 679 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 2: be a great pick for Trump. Loved the JD pick 680 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: Advice President. I think Scott Bessen has served him very 681 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: ably so far as Treasury Secretary. Obviously, Cash and Bongino 682 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 2: is like a dream team over at FBI. I mean, 683 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 2: there's so many good you know, and I'm not leaving 684 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 2: anybody out on purpose. A Tom Holman, I'm like the 685 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 2: biggest Tom Holman fan on the planet. But Rubio has 686 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 2: really stepped stepped stepped into the role. And and is 687 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: is like a key player. You know, he's become a 688 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 2: key player of this administration. Deserves a lot of credit. 689 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 2: You know, he had some bruises after the first bout 690 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 2: with Trump running against each other in the primary, but 691 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 2: Trump saw him as a worthy adversary who could now 692 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 2: be a key player on the team. And Trump deserves 693 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 2: credit I think for that too. And and he's Rubio 694 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 2: is really doing good stuff because otherwise you're gonna let 695 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 2: Tim Kaine do this and standing malarkey on how but 696 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: you brought in these refugees, what about the It's like, yeah, 697 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 2: they actually have a fear of persecution, unlike the millions 698 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 2: of liars you democrats let in. I don't know if 699 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 2: we have this audio. We'll bring it over tomorrow if 700 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 2: we don't have it right now. Also in that hearing, 701 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: Chris van Holland, the senator from Maryland who went down 702 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 2: to meet with Brao Garcia the El Salvador, and he said, 703 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: I wish I hadn't voted for you now, which is 704 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 2: such a loser thing to say in a public hearing 705 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 2: in my opinion. And also since Rubio came out of 706 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 2: the Senate. It comes across, frankly as a personal attack 707 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 2: more so than a political one, and Rubio says that 708 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 2: that makes me feel even better about the job that 709 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 2: I'm doing. Especially, and I'm paraphrasing, because you're traveling to 710 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 2: El Salvador to just have Margarita's with terrorists or illegal immigrants, 711 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: which is a great line. It's a great comeback line, 712 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: and I think Rubio is delivering on a high level. 713 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 2: We'll talk about some of that tomorrow ereat down the 714 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 2: absolute latest on the Big Beautiful Bill. 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