1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ. Bucky 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: back with you, Buck. How's it going, man? Maybe one 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: one step closer. Training camps are opening up Dallas and Pittsburgh. 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: They opened up at the end of the week, so 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: we're here. I guess we're finally back to football then, 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 1: so we can start talking about real stuff instead of 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: speculating and stuff. You know, it's funny. I'm gonna be uh, 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: I gotta drive my daughter's car out to Dallas. Um, 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: she goes to school out there, so I gotta drop it. 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop that off this weekend because she wouldn't 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: have to be at school for a little while yet. 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna be able to do it once 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: we get to August, because we're you know, you're not 15 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: gonna put it. You're not gonna put it on a 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: flat bed. I I looked at that, but then I 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: got I was too cheap because I was like, I 18 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: can put it on that, but I can just save 19 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: all this money. I mean, who's who's more trained than 20 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: you or I to go for? Man, I will say this, 21 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: we can do it. It makes us appreciate our new 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: life by looking at what our life used to be. 23 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: I guess, man, but I might have paid somebody just 24 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: to get in the car and drive at like I've 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: done there before. When I was playing, I used to 26 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: have a buddy that I would just pay to just 27 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: drive the car from my home in North Carolina up 28 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: to Green Bay or wherever I was playing, and then 29 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: I would just flying back. Uh. I hated doing those drives. Man, 30 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: how long is that drive from So it's about I 31 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: think it's about nineteen hours? So I do I break 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: it up? I do a twelve and a seven, so 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: I get I get maybe it's even a fourteen and 34 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: a five. I go straight from my house to Odessa, Texas. 35 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: Like that's my that's my stop. I get up and 36 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: go though. So but this is this is what I'm 37 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: getting at. I've got a couple of books, I've did, 38 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: some audio books I've downloaded, which I'm excited about, which 39 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: I'll be able to reference on the show in the future, 40 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: because that you love learning like I love learned, so 41 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: so that's gonna be help helpful. But then I was like, 42 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna be in Dallas. You know, I've 43 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: got to have half a day there before I got 44 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: to fly back home. The Cowboys might be in camp. 45 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I just maybe to swing over catching 46 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: practice the Cowboys thinking an ox car forget it, miss them. 47 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know they're out here for the whole camp. 48 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: I thought maybe did a little there. They came out 49 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: here the whole time. They're they're out here for twenty 50 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: three days. But the funny thing is, uh, talking to 51 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: people in the building, I think the only practice in 52 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: thirteen of those twenty three days, So it's not a 53 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: lot of practicing going on. Um, a very different schedule. Uh. 54 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: When it comes to it, A man, hats off to 55 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: you though those two drives like that. It's a warrior spirit. 56 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: It's a warrior spirit, buck um. Anything over three and 57 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: a half, you can kind of tap me out. Um. 58 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: By the way, So for this, I'm gonna just give you. 59 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you which team it is. But 60 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: like people, I think maybe kind of wonder what goes 61 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: on in training camp. Obviously you've been on the player's 62 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: side of it as well. UM, So let me just 63 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: give you a quick day here and then let me, 64 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: first of all tell you what we've got coming up 65 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: in the show. We've got some some breaking news with 66 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: cam makers getting injured. We're gonna talk about that. We're 67 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: gonna talk about you mentioned the Cowboys, the Steelers, the Bucks, 68 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: they all get going. This week were a little bit 69 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: of a preview on those three teams. Some interesting news, UM, 70 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: interesting article that came out that we were both interested in. 71 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: We've talked about building personnel departments for college programs and this, UM, 72 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: it's kind of all about how that started at the 73 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: University of Alabama with Nick Saban when he took that job, 74 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: and so we'll touch on that a little bit as well. 75 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: So some cool, cool topics to get to. But let 76 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: me give you, if you're listening to this kind of 77 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: wonder what a random day at training camp is like. 78 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: And it's different now than it was when you were 79 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: playing Buck, just with the rules where they are. So 80 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: let's go seven to nine breakfast. UM, you also have 81 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: the training room open during those hours, So between seven 82 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: and nine you get your breakfast, you can get get 83 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: to the training room. UM. You know if coaching wise 84 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: they have a staff meeting at seven thirty, just go 85 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: for about ten minutes um, uh one day that on 86 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: this particular day, the defense would be getting their lift 87 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: in from eight to nine. Um. You know, the next 88 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: day would be the offense practice to go from ten 89 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: to twelve. Then you've got from twelve to two thirty. UM, 90 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: just kind of a recovery period, get some lunch. Um, 91 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: you have a special teams meeting would be at at 92 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: two o'clock to to thirty. UM, you've got your then 93 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: your offense defense meetings from two thirty to three thirty. 94 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of meeting. Then you gotta walk 95 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: through from three forty to four. Uh, from four thirty 96 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: to five, another special team meeting, UH five to five 97 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: thirty dinner, and then from five thirty to six forty 98 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: five you're in position meetings. At six forty five it's 99 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: a team meeting, and then you're done at seven o'clock 100 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: you get a snack. So I mean literally you're seven 101 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: to seven d G. I don't know how you can 102 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: meet that long. I mean, I'll be honest with you, 103 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: Like to me, this sounds miserable from just trying to 104 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: stay in gage, but you can't. The rules are you 105 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: can't be on the you can't be on the field 106 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: like you used to be. You rattled off like fifteen 107 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: different meetings. I don't like you to be so up 108 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: on it when it comes to your presentation game to 109 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: keep guys engaged, because after a week or so of that, 110 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: you're nodding off, like looking at the same films because 111 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: you don't have enough, you don't have enough on the 112 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: field work to really feel to watch. Yeah, so so 113 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: what are you watching? You're watching games and and all 114 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: the other stuff, and I know you can't do uh 115 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: you you mentioned that the mid afternoon walk through, which 116 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: is really I mean it is sandals and head backwards 117 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: like you're not going at pace. You really can't get anything. 118 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: You can't get Ali, it's it's really it's really tailored 119 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: to the veteran player. It's not tailored for the development 120 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: of guys, which which again is another reason when we 121 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: could go off on a tangent here, but it's the 122 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: reason why I think a lot of these teams have 123 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: adopted the college approach of of running two huddles, of 124 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: having you know, young guys getting a chance to get 125 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: as many reps as they can in that limited practice 126 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: window that you have. Yeah, it's funny, so dj Um 127 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: you're talking about the two huddles actually reading this stuff. 128 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: Matt Campbell from Iowa State, I can now understand, Like 129 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: I knew he was a really good coach, but I 130 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: now I can understand why NFL teams are hot and 131 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: heavy on him. He talked about at Iowa State, what 132 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: they did last year is they ran two different practices 133 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: during that time. So if you think about having a 134 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: three hour block um there would go ninety minutes, seventy 135 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: five minutes. Apiece ones and two is running one practice 136 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: get them off the field. Then you do it all 137 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: over again with the developmental squad um to get to 138 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: get them going or whatever I wanted. With a with 139 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: a practice schedule like that where you just have all 140 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: the meetings, why not do it that way because you 141 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: got to figure out a way to to have tape 142 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: on the on the board to be able to see 143 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: these things or whatever without it becoming repetitive and redundant. 144 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: You have to be very creative with your meeting space 145 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: because that is a lot. Well, well, the thing with 146 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: the practice at the NFL level is you know when 147 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: you have an unlimited number of coaches versus the college game, 148 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: so we can have we can split them and have 149 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: them going at the exact time, UM, and then we 150 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: can have tape. We have tape that's covering both things. 151 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: We get in the meeting room, we'll be able to 152 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: watch both. Um. But yeah, no, it's those are long days, man, 153 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: long days for for players and coaches alike. As we 154 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: get towards training camp. All right, some of the news 155 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: that just came down Buck Acres. Cam Acres very talented 156 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: running back. We both really liked him, come out of 157 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: Florida State, was really a steal for the Rams there 158 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: in the second round. Played well last year. Unfortunately, Um 159 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: has an achilles uh injury, So he's gonna be done 160 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: for the year. And that's a Creddy injury too. You 161 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: hate to see that. But just your take on what 162 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: it means for the Rams. They've come out and said, look, 163 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: they're not in a hurry to go get anybody. They 164 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: really like Darrell Henderson UM, and they're going to kind 165 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 1: of roll with what they've got. Yeah, you know, DJ, 166 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: this is a devastating injury for them because he was 167 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: ready to go to the next level. Um. He is 168 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: someone I've compared him to Dalvin Cook and uh in 169 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: terms of how impactful he can be as a runner 170 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: and also as a receiver. He has big time playmaking 171 00:07:58,640 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: the building and you can see at the end of 172 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: year when the game kind of slowed down and he 173 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: settled in, he showed some of that explosive pop. I 174 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: think the playing this year with him, he was gonna 175 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: be the bell cow. He was gonna get the bulk 176 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: of the carrys. He's gonna impact in the past game 177 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: to alleviate some of the pressure on Matthew Stafford. They 178 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: were gonna be able to play the way that Sean 179 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: McVeigh wants to play. Now it goes to Darren Henderson. 180 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: Darren Henderson drafted out of Memphis Um. A guy who 181 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: has some some juice, some sizzles, some sauce with the 182 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: ball in his hands. But Kenny told the mail Um 183 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: the way the cam Akers was expected to toe to. 184 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: You're talking about sixteen twenty carries, maybe four to five receptions. 185 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: Darren Henderson isn't necessarily built to do that. So who 186 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: else is involved in this rotation? And how did Sean 187 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: McVeigh keep the rotation going while also making sure he's 188 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: been in this quarterback in the best position to to see. 189 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: Can I give him My hope is that Jake funk 190 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: Um ends up playing well his seventh round pick out 191 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: of mail, just just because I guarantee you it's happening. 192 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: Is that the first time that he catches the ball 193 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: out of the backfield from Stafford for a touchdown, somebody 194 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: isn't evitably gonna tweet it's It's Maddie, Matt and the 195 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: Funky Bunch. It's coming. That's coming. I'm just telling you, 196 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: I mean ready, that tweet has been crafted as we speak, 197 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: that that's coming from somebody out there. I mean maybe 198 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: maybe so. But this changes how they like. I think 199 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: this changes a lot because they're gonna be heavy on 200 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: that outside zone run game. The bootleg part of it, 201 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: um using Cam Akers as a little bait to create 202 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: bring some physicality. Like I like, Henderson's a nice and 203 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: to me, he's perfectly situated to change the pace guy. 204 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,599 Speaker 1: But the physicality you don't get that from him that 205 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: you would have got from Akers. No, you don't. And 206 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: Acre's ability was going to make teams have to put 207 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: that extra defending in the box and really to defend 208 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: against the Rams running game to control them, and that 209 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: opens up things in the past game. Now you may 210 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: dare to them to run because you also wonder how 211 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: much confidence to show if they have in the running 212 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: backs behind um cam Makers. Big change changes changes a 213 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: lot already. We haven't even kicked our training camp before 214 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: we leave the ramps here, just your thoughts. I didn't 215 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: we haven't talked about this. Jimmy Ward basic was saying 216 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: he's not really worried about Matthew Stafford, Jimmy Ward up 217 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: there with the Niners, because you know, Matthew Stafford all 218 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: this time in Detroit, and you think he even mentioned 219 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: even with Megatron, didn't really get anything done in the postseason, 220 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: ye know. I mean on paper, yes, he doesn't have 221 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: any playoff wins. He's on four. He's only had four 222 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: winning seasons during his time as they starting quarterback twelve years. However, 223 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: he is really talented. He has big time arm talent. 224 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: You can't deny that he can make things happen. And 225 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: they're going to create some big places for him to happen, 226 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: big place for opportunities for him to get after in 227 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: the passing game. Jimmy Ward in forty nine is like, 228 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: I understand where the confidence comes from. That's always a knockdown, 229 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: drag out affair. So it might have been easy to 230 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: lead the bear alone. I certainly wouldn't want to poke it. 231 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: Can you think of anybody in NFL history that has 232 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: kind of that career that Stafford's had? In other words, 233 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: that's like all of the yards, all of the stats 234 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: um without much success from a team standpoint. I mean, 235 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: you guys, I mean you go back. I know Archie 236 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: Manning's going way way back, but you know, his stats 237 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: weren't amazing, but he was a really good player on 238 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: a really really bad team. But I mean, just in 239 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: the more recent history, can you think of somebody that 240 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: that posted big numbers like that that didn't have team success? Man, 241 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. It normally goes hand in hand. 242 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: I can't think of anybody who had the level of 243 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: success to Matthew Stafford. His head and that moved on 244 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: because most of the time, if the quarterback's unique, yeah 245 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: it's a it's a unique situation, and yeah the team 246 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: is Yeah. I can't think of anything like that because 247 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: his numbers are ridiculous and when you see him play 248 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: up and two years ago I had him as an 249 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: m V p front runner until uh it broke his thumb. 250 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: In the following two years, he hasn't been as good 251 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: as he was doing that high moment, but he's still 252 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: the talented, talented player and passed it and show me 253 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: a creative mind. They find a ways to keep him engaged. 254 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I would say that. You know, before he 255 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: got to UH Arizona, you know, you had Carson. Carson 256 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: went to the playoffs Cincinnati, they won that division several 257 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: times with Carson Palmer. They didn't have success and he 258 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: got hurt in one of the games against Pittsburgh. They 259 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: didn't have postseason success. But I mean, I I guess 260 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: maybe during those early years, but I mean not not 261 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: for the prolonged period uh that Stafford has and Carson 262 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: won that I think they had more. You know, those 263 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: division wins came someone with Andy Dalton. I have to 264 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: go back and look that up, but I want to 265 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: say Carson had achieved more team success than Stafford did. 266 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: But that's maybe a little bit similar. Number one overall picks, Yeah, 267 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: very similar. And then in his uh now the second 268 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: go around, the third around, it really blost for him. 269 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: Uh down in Arizona, man, I just block out the 270 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: whole the Raiders thing. I just blocked that out. I know, 271 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford thing is is really interesting, just because what 272 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: do you do with all this stuff in Detroit? And 273 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: does he have scars from failing to be able to 274 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: come through in the clutching games and moments and those things. 275 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's it's it's interesting, but I 276 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:22,119 Speaker 1: do understand why all the eyeballs and the conversation is on, uh, 277 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. It's just it's challenging to hear when you 278 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: think about what they're putting together, what they should have 279 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: if cam Makers is available. Now, what does it look like? 280 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: Is he back to having to play like he had 281 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: to play in Detroit, which is really what he was 282 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: trying to get away from where it was all on 283 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: hanging on his right arm so closer than you think. 284 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: I just pulled up Carson's numbers. So Carson had, you know, 285 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: from age at Cincinnati UM to age thirty one, that 286 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: was just that was his career there. He had an 287 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: eleven and five season and a ten and sixth season. 288 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: Those are the only winning records that he had during 289 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: that During that time and about the same point in 290 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: his career where Stafford's making a move to another team, 291 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: that's when Carson made his move. Now you've got the 292 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: two years in Oakland, Uh, nothing to write home about there, 293 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: and then you mentioned it he gets you get a 294 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: couple of good years there in Arizona, you know, in 295 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: in the middle late thirties. So that actually is probably 296 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: not a terrible comparison there, because nobody ever could deny 297 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: the talent that Carson Palmer had. Yeah, good, good comparison. Um, 298 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: you know it's can we get a notebook? And I 299 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: haven't given you a notebook idea in a long time. 300 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: Can we sneak that out of the notebook this week? 301 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: About Matthew Stafford? I think Stafford Palmer, but we don't 302 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: have Nobody even talked about the Palmer Matthew Stafford thing. 303 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: Come on, Buck, get it in there, footnote said Carson Palmer. 304 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: Some stats, all right, got you? We get something in there. Yeah, 305 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: I would like to contribute to the notebook. It's a month. Um, 306 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: all right, let's get to these teams here, uh, Bucks, Cowboys, Steelers, 307 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: all open it up training camp. Let's get to the 308 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys here. Um, just you know, you you do a 309 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: lot of stuff with this team, Buck and and pay 310 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: a close attention to this cowboy team. Uh, I'd love 311 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on it. To me. I when 312 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: I look at the roster and as we get ready 313 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: for camp, there's two my two big takeaways. Number one, 314 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: Seedee Lamb, I think is gonna have a monster here, 315 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: and people overreact. I posted a picture he had put 316 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: up where he's just shredded, and I said he's gonna 317 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: have a monster. You're like, oh, he took his shirt off. 318 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: That mains he's gonna have a mom nothing. This is 319 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: just a picture of Ceedee Lamb along with my take 320 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: which I've had for a while now, which is he 321 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: is going to explode with Dak Prescott for a full season. 322 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: He's a premier route runner, he's got outstanding hands, and 323 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: now he's going to have the full knowledge of this 324 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: system year two um and a healthy quarterback, He's gonna explode. 325 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: So that that was my first takeaway. The second takeaway 326 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: is this team goes to me as the secondary go 327 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: on defense. I mean that's that's that's just that simple. 328 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: I mean, look, it is really simple. Is Dak Prescott 329 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: on this offense continue to play at a high level. 330 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: They were lighting up score boards prior to Dak Prescott's injury, 331 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: but the defense let him down. Dan Quinn is now 332 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: viewed as the answer. Um he comes in, He's gonna 333 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: keep it pretty simple. They're gonna do a good job 334 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: to run to the football making things happen, and if 335 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: they don't allow the ball to flower to head, they 336 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: will have a chance. They can keep the ball in 337 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: front and make people drive the ball down the length 338 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: of the field. They went to the games. It's just 339 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: a matter of how well can they take care of 340 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: the game and are they able to win the trenches. 341 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: And I am excited if rookies Micah Parsons the player, 342 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: He's a phenomenal talent, the linebacker, the penn stator they 343 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: took in the first round, but even more so than 344 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: him the player. I think I'm just nerding out on 345 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: the fact we're gonna go see number eleven out there. 346 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: Uh at the linebackers. I love that rule. Man. When 347 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: you're going through is at this time, you're kind of 348 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: going through depth charts and looking at players and remind 349 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: yourself who's where, and you see the numbers and you're like, oh, 350 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: I love this rule, Man, give me the number eleven 351 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: at linebacker, He's gonna look smooth. What about what about 352 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: single digits. I'm a fan only only balls. Jalen Smith 353 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be lining up next to him rocking number nine. 354 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: So it's gonna look different man on an NFL field 355 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: to see nine and eleven at the second level. Um, 356 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: but you know there's look I'm not I'm not worried 357 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: about them up front. I think they're gonna be good 358 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: up front. I think even this the youth and athleticism 359 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: they have there with Mica Parsons at the second level, 360 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: you're hoping Jalen Smith, he came on as the year 361 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: when along last year, Well, you know, we'll see what 362 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: happens with the rest of their health. Of those guys. 363 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: Kean O'Neil, how is he gonna slide in their latent vanderesh, 364 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: et cetera. IM not worried about that front. I just 365 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: look at that back end, and I'm looking at young players, 366 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: particularly Kelvin Joseph's gonna have to jump right in there, 367 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: hit the ground running. Um. He's very talented, very gifted athlete, 368 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: but needs to play discipline. Um. So that that's gonna 369 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: be something to keep an eye on with the Dallas 370 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: Cowboys when you go over to the offensive side. I 371 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: mentioned Cedee lamb um Buck the offensive lines a little 372 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: along in the tooth here, uh earther. You're concerned, absolutely, 373 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: I'm really concerned because I was one of those in draft. 374 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: In the draft, I was saying, hey, if one of 375 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: the big guys sitting there paid um pene sewel you 376 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta make the move because you need to 377 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: protect the quarterbacks blind side. They believe they're fine. They 378 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: believe that, Uh, pull the dirt on it, Bill band Aid. 379 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: On the injuries, it would be okay. I'm not a cline. 380 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I send I sent some. I're 381 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: worried about that. But offantoisly they can score, so the 382 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: scale players are going to do their thing. I just 383 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: don't know up front if they can control of the game, 384 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: particularly against a Vaunte defensive front. I'm curious that when 385 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: you get to these training camps early days, to see 386 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: what Zeke looks like, what type of shape he's in, 387 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: based on based on the pictures, and let's just photoshop 388 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: to abs. I'm saying, let's get let's get a look 389 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: at him in person. You're gonna get out there and 390 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: see him at camp. I'm exed to see what what 391 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: he looks like when you get a chance to to 392 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: get up close and take a look at him, see 393 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: where his head is because he needs to have a 394 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: big gear here for the Cowboys. But still, I still 395 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: I think they're in the mix. I think they're a 396 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: division contender for sure. I think that division is wide 397 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: open and they're right there. So we'll see how they 398 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: go as they kick off training camp this week. Let's 399 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: get to uh before we get to the defending champs 400 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: with the Tampa Bay Bucks Pittsburgh Steelers. So, Buck, when 401 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: I was getting ready for this and looking at this roster, 402 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: and we talked about last year big issue they were 403 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: playing half court that you know, Ben, they couldn't push 404 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: the ball down the field. The field shrunk as teams 405 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: realize that it just they got suffocated offensively. So then 406 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: you get reports, Okay, Ben's feeling better at the arms season, 407 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: He's further removed from that surgery. His arm is gonna 408 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: be better. It's gonna allow him to push the ball 409 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: down the field. And I look at the makeup of 410 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: this offensive line. I don't know that they're gonna be 411 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: able to protect long enough to push the ball down 412 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: the field. I think they're gonna end up having the 413 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: same issues that they had last year, just for a 414 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: different reason. Yeah, I think he may ask some issues, 415 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: but Naja Harris is going to erase a lot of 416 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: those issues because Naja Harry's unique ability to play running back, 417 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: receiver and do a lot of different things is going 418 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: to make them really honely in on him. They do that, 419 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: they're running game with trickle a little bit. Their past 420 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: protection will stay pretty solid, and they'll finish the game 421 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: really like high level so buck Alabama's offensive line Pittsburgh 422 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: Steeler's offensive line. Yeah, you know, you know how, you 423 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: know how when you play and especially in college college football, 424 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: right where you got to go into some of these 425 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: college towns, you'd be like, what, well, the colleges in 426 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: this town, why are we flying into a different city 427 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: and having to bus over there? But well, you know what, 428 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: they don't have a long enough runway for you to 429 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: fly in there. The runway that Naja Harris had at 430 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: Alabama is not going to be there in Pittsburgh. And 431 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he can't figure this thing out. 432 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be an adjustment. Man. It's not a 433 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: good offensive line. It's just not well. I can't say 434 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: they weren't offensive. They're not a great offering line because 435 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: we haven't seen this and you play the line did 436 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: last year was not a great officilene at this group 437 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: on paper, and look who they're relying on. I mean 438 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: on paper, like I mean on paper. That does not 439 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: excite me. But um, you know, I kind of buy 440 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 1: into how they get down, like how they play, how 441 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: they approach it. That's enough to give me close. Then 442 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: I think they find a way to get over get 443 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: over the top. Naja Harris is the guy that gives 444 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: them to push down the stretch. That's what they needed. Yeah, 445 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna find out who makes the run game between 446 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, for that age old debate the runner versus 447 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: the offensive line. If you'd rather have a great runner 448 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: and the okay offensive line, because remember Matt Canada is 449 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: gonna do a lot of jet sweep motion and action 450 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: and all those things. It's gonna look different, but it's 451 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: gonna be about the same. You're not a believer smoking, 452 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, like going to hot houses. I'm just telling you, man, 453 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that, Uh, you know, Myles Garrett's 454 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: gonna go to sleep with a smile on his face 455 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: the night before they pit pitsas coming out right now 456 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: is going to shrink. The field is going to shrink, 457 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: all right. Defensively, let's get to the other side of 458 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: the ball. Defensively. Um just made a move and brought 459 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: in Melvin Ingram to me, I think there's some overreaction 460 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: to that move. I think Melvin is uh is physical, 461 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: He's tough, he has not been healthy lately. He does 462 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: not have the same burst or juice, and the production 463 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: reflected that over the last He's he's He's had a 464 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: great career. He's not better than Alex Highsmith like people 465 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: have just like Chalcoling, like you pushed him right into 466 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: the starting laugh, like Alex Heisman is a good young player. 467 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: He's not. He is starting like I'll be very surprised 468 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: if Alex Highsmith is not opposite of t. J. Watt. 469 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: He's he's a better player at this point in time 470 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: and their respective careers. No disrespect to Melvin has had 471 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: a great run, a great career. He's just not the 472 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: same player that he was when he was younger. Alex 473 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: Highsmith is ready to roll. He's a good player right now. 474 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: Competition brings brings it out of everybody. So put more 475 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: guys into the mix, let them all compete, to them 476 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: all find their way up. I'm not opposed to doing that. 477 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: Um let's see, like we'll see how this place out. 478 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: I just think the smoking mirrors in fact on this 479 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: office is gonna change stuff. Yeh eyes, it will be 480 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: all over the place. I will say. When you talk 481 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: to people around the league about this defense. Um Stefan too, 482 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: it's got a lot of love league. He doesn't get 483 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: as much buzz for some reason. He's a good football 484 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: player and a lot of people around the league are 485 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: very high on him. So him is funny. But they 486 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: also always talked about Caman Cam Hayward. Yeah, but I 487 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: feel like Cam Cam gets his due. I mean, Cam's 488 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: a known COMMODI is a great player, has had a 489 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: great reputation. I think some of that too is you know, 490 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: Cam was a one um too, It was a too, 491 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: so sometimes you know you get held to that a 492 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: little bit. But you talk about teams that have played 493 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: against them. An offensive line coaches an offensive lineman. There's 494 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: a lot of respect around the league for for to it. Um. 495 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: We'll see if they can again, you know, stay healthy. 496 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: I like where they are in the in the back end. 497 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: We'll see that, you know. I like, I say, I 498 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: like where they are. I like that. I like where 499 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: Minka can do as a floater over the top. I 500 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: don't love the corner group. I think it's I think 501 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: it's a collection of guys. I don't think there's a 502 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: not a there's definitely not a shutdown guy. I don't 503 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: know if it's a number one, not a number one 504 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: corner in the days. But they have a lot of 505 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: depth of just kind of players two twos and threes 506 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: like two and just a bunch of good players, and 507 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: then they put them in a scheme that really allows 508 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: them to flourish. That's why I'm excited to see what 509 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: Matt Canada does. Yeah, yeah, impacts. You see what kind 510 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: of sprinkles he puts on this game. But I look 511 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: at them inside that division and on paper, we'll see 512 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: everybody's got to get to the starting block healthy and 513 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: all that. Um. I I take Cleveland over them, I 514 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 1: take Baltimore over them, um, And I think maybe them 515 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati are close, But I would say Cincinnati's on 516 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: the way up, Pittsburgh's on the way down. You know it. 517 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: I don't know it's you know, Ben Roethlisberg, I know 518 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: want to come back chase the super Bowl. I don't 519 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: think that's a super Bowl. I don't think that's a 520 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: super Bowl roster personally. M M. It's tough because I 521 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: had to see him play the first four games of 522 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: the year. See what adjustments he makes the field is 523 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: that field is going to shrink? Um, it's gonna be 524 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: a problem. All right, Let's let's get to the last 525 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: one here. Super Bowl champs team comes back Um basically 526 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: and it's entirety here. They just spent the day at 527 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: the White House. Tom Brady had a couple of funny 528 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: one liners over there. But you win this You win 529 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: in this league with with pass rush. You live with 530 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: win with good quarterback play. They're in good, good shape 531 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 1: and both spots, they are in good shaping both spots. 532 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: I don't know about you. Are you a little surprised 533 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: Chris Godwin didn't get along to him deal? Then they're 534 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 1: making them play on it one year? Yeah, I mean, 535 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: they've got a lot of mouths to feed their um. 536 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: He's a really good player and they have so much 537 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: depth there. The interesting thing is going to be, you know, 538 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: with Mike Evans going into the future because he's, you know, 539 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: the older statesman of the bunch, whereas God One's still 540 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: kind of he's already really really good but still on 541 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: the com So that that'll be an interesting decision they 542 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: have to make off into the future. But I think 543 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: for right now it was, Hey, let's just make sure 544 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: we get everybody back on the boat. How we have 545 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: to situate the dollars, but let's just get everybody back 546 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: on the boat. Yeah. I think they're doing a good 547 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: job of running back, having the entire defense back, most 548 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: of the overwhell majority of the offense, like all those 549 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: guys free and they came back because of what um 550 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: people feel like they're building down in Tampa. Tom Brady 551 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: hasn't a great job of putting his thumb front on 552 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: the finger in the post of the team. When I 553 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 1: when I think about this team, this team is a 554 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: defensive lead squad. Their offense finds a way to like 555 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: light up score boards, but it's their defense that's really 556 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: going to determine how they how they make and run, 557 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: how they defend their title. What I do like is 558 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's second year not necessarily on the system under 559 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: the tutelage of this coaching staff. I think they've reached 560 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: a synergy where they know exactly what the other is thinking. 561 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: That gives him a chance. They gives him a chance 562 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: to be very basis because yeah, here's a second notebook 563 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: idea free of charge. We always preach and I know 564 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: you've been a huge proponent of this for years and 565 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: years about building your team up the middle. So if 566 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: you look defensively and you wanted to rank the take 567 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: the top interior defensive lineman, the top off the ball 568 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: um linebacker, and then take your your favorite best safety 569 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: of the group. So you take those three guys, and 570 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: when all thirty two teams, the Tampa would be in 571 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: the top three or four, no question. Because Vitavey as 572 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: a dominant player. We saw what Devin White can do. 573 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: Look what he did in the in the postseason as 574 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 1: a young, instinctive, fast athletic linebacker. And you look at 575 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: an up and coming windfield who is not always gonna 576 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: play in the middle of the field. He moves around, 577 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: but you can list them as a safety. So between 578 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: those three guys and you look at the A to 579 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: those three players, man, that that's a stock I'd want 580 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: to buy. If you're looking up the middle, look, man, 581 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm big time buying, buying and building a team 582 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: of the middle. You have to be strong right down 583 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: the pipes. And if you're strong down the middle, gives 584 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: you an opportunity because oh decordinated Dick Gron just to 585 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: talk about you want to make sure that you're stout 586 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: down the middle. You want to run, make them run 587 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: to the edge is where you have to be speeding. 588 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: You have athleticism to run it down and close the gate. 589 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: It's tough. We're at that time where we're just trying 590 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: to figure out, Okay, this is who we are, this 591 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: is where we have decided we need to play going forward. 592 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: Can they stick to it without being bored? And they 593 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: But I think that's to be able to handle it. 594 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: But I think that's good. They brought everybody back. You 595 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: want to run it back. But they still have While 596 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: they have the veteran players, they still have a lot 597 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: of young talented players playing key roles. And I think 598 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: those guys bring energy, which is gonna be big seventeen 599 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: game season coming off a championship. You need some juice guys, 600 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: some energy guys. Tom It doesn't matter how old he is, 601 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: He's always gonna bring energy and juice. So I think 602 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: they're think they're good shape there and we and look, 603 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: we talked about Devin White. Lavonte David has been, you know, 604 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: one of the best linebackers NFL for a long time. 605 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 1: We had Luke quick Ley on. I mean, he's went 606 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: out of his way to say how how impressed he's 607 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: been with Lavonte David, what he's accomplished during his career. 608 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: I mean, let's just think about it, like this team 609 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: is loaded for bear like there, I mean, we won't 610 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: even see any of the young guys get a chance 611 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: to really do anything significant. Um, how are they How 612 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: are they not better? Like, I mean unless Tom Brady 613 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: falls off, how is this team not better? I mean 614 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: they should be leaps and bounds better because time will 615 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: have the confidence in knowing the system and the personnel, 616 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: he can begin to get to the third and fourth 617 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: progress and read based on what he sees. I mean, 618 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: they're scary obviously, wouldn't want to have to deal with them. 619 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: But I mean they're they're very, very scary offensive bunch 620 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: and then their defensive down right now, yeah, no, no doubt. 621 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: All right, before we roll out of here, just real quick. 622 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: We don't spend a ton of time on this, buck, 623 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: but um, it was interesting article on ESPN where they 624 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: talked about kind of the evolution of the personnel department 625 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: in college So I'll let you run with it here, 626 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: but I thought was a very fascinating article. Well, d yeah, 627 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: I know, like we count some of these guys that 628 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: are mentioned in the pieces as friends. Because the growing 629 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: trend in college football has been to basically build out 630 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: an NFL like front office. So you have your DPP 631 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: or some people called the general manager who's in charge 632 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: of the personnel, the recruiting and all that, and there's 633 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: a crew that works under them, and they kind of 634 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: handled all the recruiting where back in the are they 635 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: it was dealing with the position coach, and the position 636 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: coach had your area. He had to kind of sniff 637 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: around and figure out the scores and what you did. Yeah, 638 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: not not anymore. This is a big time operation. And 639 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: I came away from the article one having a great 640 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: appreciation for all the DPPs. But the other thing is 641 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: for people who come from the National Football League, or 642 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: the older executive that kind of ages out of the 643 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: National Football League on a team where he can't necessarily 644 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: do those things. Is their place for the older veteran 645 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: scout who knows football, who understands players, who has like 646 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: a ton of wisdom in terms of projecting in those things. 647 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: Is their room for that guy in that personnel department. 648 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: Because in North Carolina, for instance, when Matt Brown came 649 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: back and and and took over, two guys that he 650 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: hired to work in that office, where one was Darryl Moody. 651 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: Darrell Moody when I was there, was the officer of coordinator. 652 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: He'd been a quarterback coach of running mate coach. He 653 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: got out of college and was on the road scouting 654 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: for a few different organizations. They bring him back and 655 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: his job is he looked at the tape, and he projects, 656 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: He looks at the team some in the transfer report 657 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: and those things. He also had Sparky Woods, who was 658 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: also a former head coach, who does all this stuff, 659 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: and so they were able to hell. Now the set 660 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: of eyeballs, another set of personnel things, all of that. 661 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: Now that is not in the role that we're talking about, 662 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: like the general manager. But man, there's so much connectivity 663 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: between what's going on in college and what's going on 664 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: in the pro and I'm absolutely fascinated by all of it. Yeah, 665 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: we had talked about this on a previous episode. Um, 666 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: and then I actually got a I actually got a 667 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: text from a Power five head coach and he said, 668 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: what do you say? Um? Because I had tweeted this out. 669 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: Every college football program should already have an NFL style 670 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: personnel department, a high school recruiting side, and a transfer 671 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: portal side basically draft in free agency. It's unfair to 672 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: grade a recruiting class alone. You need to give an 673 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: equal value to the transfer portal editions. Not long before 674 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fifty fifty high school kids transfer kids. 675 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: And I got a text from a Power five head 676 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: coaches said, I could not agree more. Um, we we 677 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: we took fourteen transfers this year. I hope you're doing well. 678 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: Like that's and that's what it is. So it's kind 679 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: of in a bummer because you always like to say, 680 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: all this team at the number one recruiting class, in 681 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: the country, like that's all gonna be. Rethink that, rethink 682 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: that whole thing. You have to rethink all of that 683 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: because now you have to talk about like the transfers, 684 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: and transfers have to be that DJ. I think we 685 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: also have to include these people into the conversation depending 686 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: upon how the school uses them based on the ever 687 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: changing n c double A guidelines and rules. The player 688 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: development player development department, right, so we are beginning to 689 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: now see that We've seen it in basketball for a 690 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: long time where you see player development coaches like guys 691 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: who are there to really help the kids develop skills. 692 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: They're not necessarily X and those coaches, but it's a 693 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: d J. You a guard, you can go work with 694 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: our guy and he's gonna getting right. I think Miles 695 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: Simon and basketball used to be one of those guys. 696 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: I know he worked for the Lakers for a while, 697 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: but he used to do some stuff. He was go 698 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: and work to get your handles right. Well, now I wonder, 699 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: because it seems like college football is going all in 700 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: on these pro style departments. We have that DPP, we 701 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: have the general manager type. What else can we use 702 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: for the development piece? Because we are seeing more guys go. 703 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: I just saw what TODJH. Boyd was hired back at 704 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: Clemson as a player development guy, and he said, it 705 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: is somewhere between an analysts and a coach. So it's 706 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: that mix of on field off field. I kind of 707 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: help players kind of figure it out and do those things. 708 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: I just think it's very, very fascinating the way the 709 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: college football landscape is changing right before eyes. And there 710 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: are times where we're seeing the big teams, the brand 711 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: names where they may have it appears that they have 712 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: twenty plus people on staff in certain capacities. How much 713 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: bigger does that go? So you really can service not 714 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 1: only those older players that are on the field playing, 715 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: but developmental players that you're bringing in, some of transfer, 716 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: some that are coming off high school. You have to 717 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: find a way to develop all of those kids. Yeah, 718 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: it's it's really interesting, man. It's from what college football 719 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: was five years ago. It's like a totally different sport, different, 720 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: like a completely different world where you had. Um this, 721 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you because we have a kid at high 722 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: school where I'm coaching, who surprisingly is has become a 723 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: big time recruit. I talked to a Big ten team, Um, yesterday, 724 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: I talked to a Mountain West team. I've talked to 725 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: pack twelve teams all calling, and it is different because 726 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: it's not a quote unquote coach. It's somebody from the 727 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: personnel departments, and they want to know the ends now 728 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: and DJ. The questions that I'm getting are funny because 729 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: those are the questions that we would answer ask on 730 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: school calls. A family life background, who does he run 731 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: with Timmy? A little bit about the football character? What 732 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: about the regular injury injury history background character, how do 733 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: you see him developing and projecting and doing all these 734 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: other things? What do you think his best position is? 735 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: And it's it's funny for me, right because I mean, 736 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: the kid is a rising jr. He super track star, 737 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: and so that's what do you think his best position is? 738 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: And so I got on my old scouting head, I'm like, well, 739 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean, for us, he's gonna run it. But at 740 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: the next level, I think, I mean, if you're six 741 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: for a hundred and seventy five pounds and you play corner, 742 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, the money's at the corner, Like 743 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: play play corner if you're an athlete, But all of 744 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: those things, but they're trying to put all of that 745 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: stuff together to just kind of figure it out. And 746 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, we've been around it. Like they have their 747 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 1: own vote unquote boards that are like draft boards with 748 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: all of the other stuff. Um. I just think it's 749 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: very interesting when it comes to the general manager and 750 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: the head coach good programs. I would expect the hair 751 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: coach to be able to clearly articulate this is the 752 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: kind of team I want, These are kind of players 753 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: that we want and those things. I don't know if 754 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: all hey coaches are capable of doing it, though, that 755 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: makes it they're definitely. It definitely helps with continuity too, 756 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: because it takes a while to build up that that 757 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: machine and to get people that you trust and that 758 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: all see things the same, and then you turn over 759 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: your coach, you start all over again on that front. 760 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 1: So it's it's different. Man. How about this litle nugget 761 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: as we're getting ready to wind it up, um Nick 762 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: Saban speaking at the Texas High School Coaches Association convention. 763 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: This is a tweet from Chris Hummer. Uh quote from 764 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: Nick Saban asked when he was asked about n I 765 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: l r QB has already approached ungodly numbers and he 766 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: hasn't even played yet. If I told you what it is, 767 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: it's almost seven figures. Rice Young pulled then hasn't started 768 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: a game in Alabama yet. Different, it's a different it's 769 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: a different era, but it's a different area. But DJ like, 770 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: what you want to see is who are going to 771 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: be the big time schools that really maximize and take 772 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: advantage of the n I L. I don't know if 773 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: you saw the thing with Texas and m where the 774 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: Aggie's had a publication that paid ten thousand dollars for 775 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: exclusivity when it came to an interview with a couple 776 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: of different prospects. So you have those kinds of things. 777 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: You have, um the deal that took place in Miami 778 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: where Miami signed the entire team to a deal with 779 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: one of those m A gems, and those things like 780 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: without the regulation, I mean it's I mean it's not 781 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: kind of it is the wild wild West. But I 782 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: think for coaches and teams, the thing that you have 783 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: to manage is the haves and the have nots because 784 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: they're going to be your star players and your quarterbacks 785 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: that are first in line that get all this stuff. 786 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: And their money may be significant. What do you do 787 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: about the other guys and how do you keep keep 788 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: the team together when money is involved, because now what 789 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: used to be oh, for the love of the game college, 790 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: then you have money involved it. It does alter the dynamics. 791 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: And so your team building process as a coach and 792 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: all of that, it is going to be tested and 793 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: your organizational approach in terms of being able to think about, Okay, 794 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: we need to have someone who is great with the 795 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: N I L stuff, who is great with kind of 796 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: connecting the dots and trying to pair our players with 797 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: those in the business world and the community to do 798 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: some of these things. My goodness, man. Like now, when 799 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: we talk about the college football head coach, like we 800 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 1: used to kind of say, oh, he's a CEO type, 801 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: he's an excello. You better have great CEO skills or 802 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: you better have an outstanding right hand person to help 803 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: you navigate through some of this stuff because it's a 804 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: lot that is on your your watch. Yeah, you know 805 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: that there's so many different layers this. This is one 806 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 1: of the questions I was thinking of. I gotta talk 807 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: to maybe Bruce Felt I could help me out on this. 808 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: But you can do, and I would imagine you can 809 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: do incentive contracts right for these for these deals. So 810 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: think about that. Like my brother in law represents a 811 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: ton of the top marathon runners. He has Des Lendon, 812 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: who won the Boston Marathon a couple of years ago. 813 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: He was in the Olympic trials four years, very successful 814 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: marathon or but now he represents all these runners well 815 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: all his contracts he has with them, with shoe companies, 816 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: watch companies, you know, uh, in nutrition companies, they're all 817 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: they're all based off bonuses of how they finish in 818 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: these big races in marathons. So like if I'm if 819 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: I own a restaurant, I mean I might say, hey, look, 820 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: this is our our rival game. You know, hey, if 821 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: we beat our rival game, everybody in the whole place, 822 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's free food for the you know, 823 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: for the whole team, like or whatever else. I couldn't 824 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: you start doing that type of at North Carolina? Um, 825 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: I think for the basketball games, gosh, if you hit 826 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: the hundred, if you're in the city mark, I think 827 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: it's like tacos and cholupas for everybody somewhere, right, And 828 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: so when you're watching those games, just like you, like, 829 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: people are going to going crazy. So now you started 830 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: incentivizing stuff, and you got things out there. You got 831 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're you're a department store, Like, hey, 832 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: we beat you know, we beat Duke this this week. 833 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: Everybody on the football teams. It's a thousand dollars at 834 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: uh at Dillard's. The Florida State didn't need to take 835 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 1: anything out of Dillers. They could have just got who 836 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: was that? Do you remember? I do remember, like Laverne 837 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: Coles is that I remember. I remember their crew. It 838 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: was it was mid mid nineties. I remember they were 839 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: in the Freeshoos University. But but I just think about 840 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 1: all the different things and how you trying to I mean, 841 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: like it just never stops. It's just so many different 842 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: things going on, and you just have to really be 843 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: really organized in detailed and have it all together to 844 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,959 Speaker 1: be able to make sure that you're not only giving 845 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: the players what they need because just no, their buddies 846 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: at other universities are gonna be talking about what is 847 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: going on over there. It a lot a lot. I 848 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: think I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about you know, 849 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: app plays Miami. We meet the Hurricanes. I'm sure you 850 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: get Hurricanes. I might based on moved the sticks. You know, decal, 851 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: I think I think if you may, I think you 852 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: may be given them more than decales. Like I think 853 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: I think they're they're probably calling you a Daniel. We 854 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: need we need the big boosters, big weeks. Yeah, I 855 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: get back. I met the big booster when I was 856 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: out there speaking. You're not looking at that. I tell 857 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: you that right now. It's one. Yeah, we need to 858 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: make it app Who do you have? Who do you have? 859 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 1: Non leagues? You have? So we have we have two biggies. 860 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: We've got, uh, East Carolina. I think we opened up 861 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: with East Carolina in at the Panthers Place down there 862 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,439 Speaker 1: in Charlotte. Their first two games are NFL Stadium, So 863 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: East Carolina they play in Charlotte and then they're at Miami. 864 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: Um obviously, yeah, I think those are two bad. I 865 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: think they have a Marshal like a big Thursday night 866 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: game against Marshall like a national ESPN game. I want 867 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: to say, yeah, I'm looking to Carolina just like to 868 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: play Virginia Tech right coming out strong, I mean nothing 869 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: crazy Like last year schedule was gonna be the one 870 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: that was a head knocker, like when they were playing 871 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 1: this will play Auburn and all of that out the gate. 872 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: Now they don't need to do that. Yeah, not anymore. 873 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: It looks a change in landscape. Um, like those non 874 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: league games and those things, and depending upon the playoff 875 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: stuff or whatever, like do you do you play the 876 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: heavy hitters? Is it worth your time to play the 877 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: heavy hitters? Or are you just trying to focus on 878 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: one of your conference? Yeah? That was fascinating man. All right, 879 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: we gotta run. It's been fun man. Buck the the 880 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: columns coming out Friday. Note book, Uh, no, book will 881 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: come out right they We will see what we can do. Um. 882 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: I've given you two very good suggestions, so either either 883 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: uh this week or in future weeks. I just I 884 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: needed let's do the last little nugget on the end 885 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: of your the end of your notebook. That's all I'm 886 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: looking for. Okay, all right, all right, guys, I appreciate it. 887 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,959 Speaker 1: We're gonna be out in the road for training camps 888 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: here pretty soon. Next week. We're gonna have a lot 889 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: of preview content looking at all thirty two teams, with 890 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: a couple of episodes next week as well. So we 891 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: have one more coming up this week and then next week. Man, 892 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: we really get cranking, so I appreciate you guys hanging 893 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: with us. We'll catch you next time. Right here on, 894 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:32,760 Speaker 1: move the sticks.