1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: You guys are seeing this person finally getting a taste 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: of independence and the taste of freedom. 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: Stay tuned. 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 3: We'll get into this conversation right after these quick ads. 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Hey, rain drop. 6 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: Today's guests on Reality with the King is a Nigerian 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 3: queen Honey. She graps our TV screens on season five 8 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 3: of The Real Housewives Apotomac and has been serving African 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: royalty ever since. That's right, Doctor Wendy Osofo is here today. 10 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 3: We talk about her feeling out of law school while 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: she received so much criticism for changing careers and her 12 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 3: castmates don't, and we discussed why viewers think she comes 13 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: off as inauthentic. The answer might surprise you because it 14 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: surprised me. 15 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: Child. 16 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: So without further ado, let's get in to my conversation 17 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 3: with doctor Wendy. 18 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: Ohspo. 19 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: Doctor Wendy is in the building. As you all know, 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: The Real Apotomac is my number one favorite franchise right now. 21 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: I love the show, I love the cast, and I 22 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: also love me some doctor Wendy. 23 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: Hey, gorgeous, how are you? I'm good. 24 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: We finally get to talk to each other. We follow 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: each other on Instagram. You are such a sweetheart. You 26 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: sit me your candles, which, by the way, we're so good. 27 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: But now we get to talk. So I'm so happy 28 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: you're here, my love. 29 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. This is long overdue. I'm glad that 30 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: our schedules finally fit this in. 31 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: Like this is this is it? Right now? This is it? 32 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: Oh? And yes it is, so let's just jump right 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: into it. 34 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: Doctor Wendy, you came on to this show and set 35 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: it off like Vibica fox Baby. 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: Talk to me how. 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: This educated, beautiful, family oriented, gorgeous Nigeria woman decided to 38 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: step away a little bit right from teaching, but to 39 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: really be a housewife on a reality show. 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: Because I'm crazy, no, no, But like honestly, I feel 41 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: like I was just at a point where I wanted 42 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: to do something for myself, right like you guys met me. 43 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: I had Cameron July twentieth. She was in the nicqu 44 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: so we didn't come home till like August, and then 45 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: the producers were knocking on my door like late August. 46 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 4: So basically I was just enthralled. 47 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: In like motherhood, and I was like, I'm going to 48 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: do something for myself. I've been teaching, I've been living 49 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: out my mom's dreams. I've been doing all that stuff, 50 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: getting all these degrees, and I'm just like, I want 51 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: to do something fun. And so when the opportunity presented itself, 52 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: I never thought in my Bengo Caller of Life that 53 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: would ever be a housewife. 54 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: But when it came, I was like, you know what, 55 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 4: why not? 56 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to be ninety years old on my 57 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: rock and chair thinking what would have happened if you 58 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: took that opportunity. 59 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 4: So I yolo, and I took it. 60 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: Were you a fan of reality TV and or the 61 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: Housewives of Potomac before you decided to be on the show? 62 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: Part yes, partner. 63 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: So in full disclosure, I know this might sound crazy, 64 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: and I'm not even saying this to be cool because 65 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: it actually makes me look like I didn't do my research. 66 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 4: I did not watch Potomac before I joined. 67 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: I had every single like reason to watch it because 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: Eddie would tell me you're about to be on this show, 69 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: you need to watch it, and I said, okay, fine, 70 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: But I was so busy getting ready for the birth 71 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: of my daughter. 72 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: That was like getting the. 73 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: Nursery ready, doing this, doing that, and then she came early, 74 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: like more than a month early, so I didn't have 75 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: time to do what I wanted to do. But I 76 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: always watch reality TV, like I love Jersey, I absolutely 77 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: adored Atlanta and my new book I talk about how 78 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: I was watching love and Hip Hop when I actually 79 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: got the call that my stepfather passed away. 80 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: So I have. 81 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: Watched reality TV. I just did not watch Potomac. 82 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: Well, girl, I know. 83 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: So the reason I say that, I think that's so 84 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: important is that, like, if I would have known, it 85 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: would have been different. But then on the same hand, 86 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't watch it because what you guys 87 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: saw was how I felt like. I didn't know there 88 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: was politics. I didn't know who was loved, I didn't 89 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: know who was hated. I didn't know that. I had 90 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: no clue. 91 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: No and listen, And I'm glad you did not watch 92 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: it either, because your first season you were a breath 93 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: of fresh air. And one thing I always tell people, 94 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: there's two cities of the housewives who get the casting right, 95 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: and that's Potomac and Beverly Hills. So when you came 96 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: onto the scene, I was like, Bravo, punt intended like 97 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: doctor Wendy is it. I loved you from the daygo, 98 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: your finance, husband, your beautiful children, and you were just 99 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: so relatable. And obviously I know the producers who produced 100 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: Potomac from Eric to Kamar and Comar's one of my 101 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: really good friends, and I would text him like, I 102 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 3: love you some, doctor Wendy, and obviously you fit in 103 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: like a glove. 104 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: And even your four degrees, I was like. 105 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: Okay, that could be unnoying at times, but own it, bitch, 106 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: like you got four or five degrees. 107 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 4: I know that. 108 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: So let's talk about your first season to now. Do 109 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 3: you feel the difference in terms of who you were 110 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: your first season to who you are now with your 111 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: third season being on. 112 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: The show, Absolutely one hundred percent. 113 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: I think my first season, I came in and you 114 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: guys saw me in my raws. Form y'all saw me 115 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: with my wig tilted to the side. Child, y'all saw 116 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 1: me just raw. And why I say that is because 117 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: you guys really saw somebody who just had a baby, 118 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: right like I was not caring necessarily about my esthetic. 119 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: I didn't care about that because I literally was knee 120 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: deep in motherhood and not just typical motherhood. But now 121 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: you have three kids, so your hands are always full 122 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: and for me, what I realized and I didn't really 123 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: understand it, but I feel like I do a little 124 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: bit now. When I look at these shows, it sort 125 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: of reminds me of like a girl group, right, And 126 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: it's like everyone occupies a different space. And so when 127 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: I came in, what you guys saw was what I was. 128 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: I was occupying that space. But that my next season, 129 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: I was in a place where I was like, you 130 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: know what I want to do for me. I'm tired 131 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: of breastfeeding these kids. I'm tired of these kids on 132 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: my titty, Like I'm tired. 133 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 4: I want to get my body done. 134 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: I want to just be free, like I'm tired of 135 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: living for everybody else. And that's what you guys saw. 136 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: And so it's sort of like when you have a 137 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: girl group and then somebody in the girl group goes 138 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: solo and you're like, I didn't know she had all 139 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: that in her. I didn't know she was like that. 140 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's what people saw. They're like, who 141 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: is this person? It's like, this is part of who 142 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: I am. You guys just didn't see that, because that's 143 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: not where my mindset was the first season I came 144 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: on I was breast pumping. 145 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: I thought you were also, say, honey, I was breastfeeding 146 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: the girls like I was breastfeeding the housewives too, child 147 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: because they needed a little support in order for them 148 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: to be great, because you gave them some nutrition. So 149 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: but that makes sense to me because, like I said, 150 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: I adore you. I love you off camera on camera, 151 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: and even your second season, I too, as listen the 152 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: king of reality TV, somebody who produced reality television. I 153 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: was like, Okay, doctor Wendy is going through her second 154 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: season blow up, which. 155 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: Every reality star does. 156 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: And I felt like, okay, but wait a second, are 157 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: we are we losing the quality of who she was 158 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: her first season where I love the fact that you 159 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: were like, I am this smart black woman and I'm 160 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: going to make it happen. And then your second season 161 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: with the candles, and I'm gonna be honest with you, 162 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: there's one scene you had with Karen that pissed me off, 163 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: Doctor Wendy. Okay, it's when you had a meeting with 164 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 3: Karen about candles and yes, and I felt like you 165 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: were dumbing yourself down. And I was like, the doctor Wendy, 166 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: I fucking know, is smarter than every girl on this 167 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: cast combine, and I was like, I don't want doctor 168 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: Wendy to feel like she has to dumb herself down 169 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 3: to be, you know, like she doesn't know business. 170 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: I was mad. 171 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: I was mad doing that thing. I was like, that's 172 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: not that doctor Wendy I fell in love with. Do 173 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 3: you understand when I'm saying when I say that, and 174 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: do you agree? 175 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 176 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying one thousand percent and I 177 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: agree as well, because it's not necessarily I didn't walk 178 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: into a saying I'm dumbing myself down. But I also 179 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: didn't feel like I had anything to prove right, and 180 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: I felt like I don't know business, Like that's the 181 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: truth of the matter. Granted people could say, oh, you 182 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: can google a business thing and all that stuff. Yes 183 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: you can, But I don't know business. That's just not 184 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: my strong suit. That's Eddie. Eddie has an NBA if 185 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: he knows the ins and outs of business. The conversation 186 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: I was having with Karen, I also think it was 187 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: more so. 188 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 4: You see this, this is interesting. Let me tell you 189 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 4: all this. 190 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: When you're around Karen and you have a conversation, whether 191 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: you like it or not, Karen has this mother hand 192 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: type of persona, and it made me feel like I 193 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: was talking to like now, I don't want to say 194 00:09:59,240 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: my mom. 195 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: I don't want to say that, but do you get 196 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 4: what I'm doing saying and so and so? 197 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: That's the energy I saw of met her with, Like 198 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: when I talk to my mom, I'm unsure of myself, 199 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: even forget the degrees, I'm unsure of myself. I questioned myself, 200 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: Am I doing the right thing? Does this make sense 201 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: to you? And I sort of feel like that's what 202 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: came across. But I never deliberately went and said I'm 203 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: going to dumb myself down. No, I didn't say that, 204 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: but I do understand the perception of that, because when 205 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: you are a bad bitch in every facet of your 206 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: life and then you come to somebody like I need 207 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: wisdom from you, I need to understand. 208 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 4: I understand how you can. 209 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: See it like that A thousand percent, yes, a thousand OK. 210 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: Even my mom called me about that scene. 211 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: Am I sist? 212 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: What did she say? 213 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: My mom was like, not you talking to Karen? Not 214 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: what the hell you need Karen's advice for? She said, more? 215 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 4: But you know I ain't gonna say a child you 216 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 4: know my mama. She on't hold her tongue about nothing 217 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 4: or no one. 218 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: And I'm so glad you were honest about that too, 219 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: because you know, the purpose of this podcast is to 220 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: get to know people on a deeper level. And like 221 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: I said, I love you from jump and I have 222 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: discernment and I just felt like, what's happening here? Do 223 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: you feel like that's part of the reason why there's 224 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: some people who feel like, who is doctor Wendy. She's 225 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: coming across and authentic. She's not likable like she was 226 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: her first season. How does it feel to know there's 227 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: people out there, Doctor Wendy who feel that way about 228 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 3: you going into this third season. 229 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 4: I don't give her damn. 230 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 5: No no, But for real, I think that in all honesty, 231 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 5: I in my real life, I'm a complicated character. 232 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 4: I really am. 233 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: Like one day and Eddie will tell you one day, 234 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm like I got this this f them da da 235 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: da da. Next day I'm crying like I don't know, 236 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: Like that's just who I am. That's really my personality. 237 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: So I think what's interesting about people saying that is 238 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm finding myself as well, and I want people to 239 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: member that. Also being the child of immigrants. You really 240 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: have lived the majority of your life not knowing who 241 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: you really are because you're living someone else's dream. And 242 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: so I'm continuing on that journey of just finding what 243 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: I love, what don't I love? 244 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: Do I like this? Do not like this? 245 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 1: Do I want to sell candles? Do I want to 246 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: open up a lounge? Because I've done everything in my 247 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: life and my past for other people, Like literally since 248 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: from the moment y'all met me, that was my first 249 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: decision in my life outside of Mary and Eddie of course, 250 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: that I made for myself. 251 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 4: And that might sound crazy, but I'm thirty seven years old. 252 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 4: That was literally like. 253 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: I'm going to do housewives, Like that's what I'm doing. 254 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: Everything else I have done in my life has been 255 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: a joint thought effort, Like it's like my mom, my, sister, 256 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: everyone comes together to make decisions for me and then myself. 257 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: Weird, but that's it. Like I even talk about that 258 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: in my book, like they. 259 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: Really have been overseers of what I've done. And in 260 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: my book, I talk about how I failed out of 261 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: law school. Right, long story show, y'all may not have 262 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: known that I failed out of law school. 263 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: Yeah I did, and they all came together. 264 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, so next you're going to be 265 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: a doctor, so we have to find out how you're 266 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: going to be a doctor. 267 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 4: So maybe you just go and get your PhD. 268 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: So I didn't even get a chance once I made 269 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: that failure to then say what, maybe I don't want 270 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: to go to school, maybe I'm gonna do something else. 271 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: It was like, no, you have to be a doctor 272 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: and we're going to figure out how to get there. 273 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 4: Since the law school route didn't work. 274 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: So when you are a complicated individual like that, then yes, 275 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: you guys are seeing me like trying to find my 276 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: own way because I haven't had the opportunity to do that. 277 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? Now? It is not crazy. No, listen 278 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: all jumps aside. It is not crazy. 279 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: And this is why I'm so happy that we're talking 280 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: because for someone like me to be in the business 281 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 3: who also always tell people I'm always going to be 282 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: a viewer. So I look at shows that I watched 283 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: Doctor Wendy as a viewer, and then the producer had 284 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 3: comes in. Secondly, this makes so much sense to me 285 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 3: because to me, I was even hard on you the 286 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: premiere episode because I was like, okay, doctor Wendy, we 287 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: got four degrees. They were making candles and now we're 288 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: doing a fucking restaurant. And I was like, doctor Wendy, 289 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: is this for a storyline? And now that we're talking, 290 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: this is so interesting because and I'm getting chills talking 291 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: to you right now. You are like most career women 292 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: who are also mothers, and like you said, child of immigrants, 293 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: you are, for the first time in your adult life 294 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: living for you. So when we see you go through 295 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: these motions of you know, the breast and the booty 296 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: and candles and maybe I want to open up a restaurant, 297 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: we are watching you in real time figure life out. 298 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: And the issue is. 299 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: Doctor Wendy, we're not being told that's what you're doing. 300 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: We look at this now, doctor Wendys, and I'm gonna 301 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: be very rial with you. Child, she knew a storyline. 302 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: She's coming to set not knowing who she is. She 303 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: don't know she loved Gazilla. I hate the bitch like 304 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: but I now am getting the glimpse of all your life. 305 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: And I know this by especially Nigerian children. I know 306 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: that your parents feel like you have two choices, a 307 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: doctor a lawyer, Evon Orgy from Insecure. The actress said 308 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: that said that the same thing that you guys are 309 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: raised to be doctor, lawyer, engineer. Yes, and you and 310 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: stop me when I'm wrong. I feel like you lived 311 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: your life for your mom. Yes, and right now you're 312 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: living your life for Wendy. 313 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly what it is. You got it like, 314 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: that's that's what it is. And I wish that I 315 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: understand it's an asyle vocast and we can't tease out stories, 316 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: but that's what it is I am doing. I'm almost 317 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: like a child rebelling. You guys are watching a child rebelling. 318 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: So you're seeing me like, Yeah, I got the four degrees. Yeah, 319 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: I work at this amazing university. Yeah I'm a commentary. 320 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: Yeah I got the husband because in my culture you 321 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: have to be married. Yeah I got the kids. Not 322 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: just the kids, but my culture're supposed to have a 323 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: boy and a girl. So I finally did it, right, 324 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: I had two boys and a girl. 325 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 4: I did it. 326 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: I accomplished everything. Guess what I'm gonna live for me? 327 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: So I want the boobs. I want I want to 328 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: get my body done. I want it. Why not if 329 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: I do candles I can't do candles if I feel 330 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: like it. Guess what don't matter. I'm still a doctor. Boom, 331 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: all right, let me do a restaurant. Why not do 332 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: a restaurant because I want to. I think it's a 333 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: good idea. I also, you know what, not just a restaurant, 334 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: I want to put a library in the restaurant because 335 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: that would be awesome. 336 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 4: Right, you guys are. 337 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: Seeing the person finally getting a taste of independence and 338 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: the taste of freedom. 339 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 4: And that's what you guys are watching in real. 340 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 2: Time, so not that. Thank you for saying that. 341 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 3: And this is going to help you a lot, doctor Wendy, 342 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: because I know, I feel like people are able to 343 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 3: really understand because I am getting chills understanding it now 344 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: as well. 345 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: With that being said, hindsight is twenty twenty. 346 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: Do you now understand maybe why last season Robin, for example, 347 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: was really confused with who you were at that time? 348 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 4: No because. 349 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 2: Rob tried no no, no, no no. 350 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: Because I felt like out of because well, first of all, 351 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: I didn't feel that way because we were really close, like. 352 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 4: We actually talked. 353 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: Like when cameras are down and you know, as Carlos, 354 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: there are people who just film we show up to set. 355 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: Then there's people who actually talk. No, we talked, we 356 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: texted like we we talk. 357 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: Like, hey girl, wait not to cut you off, cot 358 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: people off. 359 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: This is this is shocking you and Robin Dixon had 360 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: a friendship off camera. 361 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 4: Yes, we talked like we would. I would send her 362 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 4: an article, She'll send. 363 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 2: Me our a girl. 364 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 4: What these people talking about? 365 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: What these people talk? 366 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 367 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: When we were on lockdown, how are you doing? How 368 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: the boys doing? Are you cooking? Well, I'm tired of cooking. 369 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: We tired the cooking. 370 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: I'm tired. 371 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: We will have those conversations or her just calling me 372 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: checking in, Hey, how's everything going? Da da da da, 373 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: like we would talk. So that's why I'm like no. 374 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: And then two we saw Robin go from selling and 375 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: flipping houses to selling beauty supply store hats. 376 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 4: To doing whatever she's doing. And it's okay. So let 377 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: me understand. 378 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: It's okay for her to change her career path and 379 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: explore different things. 380 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 4: But I can't. That's why I don't get that. I 381 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 4: would understand, and Robin. 382 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 383 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 4: I just don't get it. 384 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: Like we saw you change different paths yourself and It 385 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: wasn't a what's wrong, what's different? 386 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: Girl? 387 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 4: You were just flipping the house in downtown Baltimore. 388 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: Now I know you got me on somebody's screen modeling 389 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: hats for you. 390 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: Okay, you my girl, I'm a model, but hat I'm 391 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 4: gonna give you an angle? So why can you do 392 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 4: it and I can't? 393 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: So do you think in another hindsight twenty twenty that 394 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 3: Robin was doing that to create a storyline? 395 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 4: Yes, oh, I think so. 396 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: I personally think she was doing that because because we 397 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: were friends. She never even asked me that off camera. 398 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: She was never like, girls, everything, okay, you are right, 399 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: like you're going from. 400 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 4: This to that? 401 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: Like it was never that. It was me watching the 402 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: episodes with you guys, And I'm like, wait, that's how 403 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: you feel. 404 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 4: You never said that. You never communicate this with me. 405 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 4: You never talked to me, You never you know. 406 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, wow, this is deep and what. 407 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 4: I think too. 408 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: Not to get too much into the weeds of last season, 409 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: but it was what I'm realizing now that I'm stepping 410 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: back and just watching even this season. The name of 411 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: the game is connecting the dots, right, It's a connect 412 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: the dot game. 413 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: And. 414 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: That was part of her laying the foundation to connect 415 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: the dots for my plastic surgery, then to connect the 416 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: dots for I got plastic surgery because of the false 417 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: rumor for Eddie. It was all laying the groundwork. It 418 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: was a connecting the dots, you know. That's what that's 419 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: that's that's why I'm realized. I didn't know it, and 420 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, what's the big deal if I 421 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: changed careers. No, it's because you're changing careers because you're 422 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: acting different, and you're acting different, and then you got 423 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: your body done and all of this is because of 424 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: this m baby. 425 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 3: Those four degrees came in handy for the dissection of 426 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: it all. 427 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, tell you stop, baby. 428 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 3: So this past episode, we saw that which Robin. I 429 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 3: love Robin, I love the entire cats, but I called 430 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: a spadus Bailey, right. We saw that Robin did not 431 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: invite you to her event that was for the kids. 432 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 3: She told Candace to call you a not just a mama, 433 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: a black mama. 434 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: Okay. 435 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: She had kndas call a black mama and said, can 436 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 3: I take your kids out of your house? 437 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: It might be here called drive down I eighty five. 438 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 2: So getting off. 439 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 3: Exit exit twelve, turning up in the parking lot child 440 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 3: and have a playdate with another woman and her kids 441 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 3: and you said no, which, as a black man raised 442 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 3: by black mama, I understood that one hundred and fifty percent. 443 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: Where I was, I was, so, this is no shade, I. 444 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: Said, bitch, am I watching the Old Sea Housewives because 445 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 3: black folks know this ain't. This ain't how we get 446 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: down in the audacity of that. What was Robin thinking, 447 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: was this another situation where she was creating a storyline? 448 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: You think so? 449 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: Or does she hate you that much? 450 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 4: Pretty? You know? Well, it's twofolds, right. I think first 451 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 4: of all. 452 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: If you don't want the mama, then you don't want 453 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: the kids, right, My kids are not going anywhere that 454 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: they're mom isn't wanted. That's very simple to me. It doesn't, 455 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: It doesn't. It doesn't take a lot to go through that. 456 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: And if I could actually keep. 457 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: It very real. 458 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: There was a moment, a hot mic moment, and in 459 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: my hot mic moment, you guys hear me say, oh wait, 460 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: I'm still miked or something like that. That comment wasn't 461 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: too my comment earlier about Mia. That comment was because 462 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: I called Eric Eric. Eric was working overtime that episode. 463 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 4: You know, Eric, I. 464 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: Called Carlos king tell me is what I called my 465 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: mente Yes ep Eric. 466 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: Oh, I love Eric because after she did that whole 467 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: song and dance where she went around the room and 468 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: asked about everyone's kids, it was definitely about the kids 469 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: because she didn't ask the women in the circle. 470 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 4: Hey, as where you're available, Teresa, you're available. She acts 471 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 4: specifically if our kids were available, and based on whether 472 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 4: the kids were available, was her or not inviting me? 473 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 4: Does that make sense? It wasn't like she was inviting 474 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 4: the moms right, It was the children she was inviting. 475 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: So I said to Eric when I had my moment 476 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: with him, I set him in the car and I 477 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: was crying, crying. I said, y'all can come for me 478 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: all you want to. I signed up for this, Come 479 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 1: for me. She can come for me however she wants to. 480 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: But to do this to a two, six and eight 481 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: year old, that's not what I signed up for, nor 482 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: did my kids sign up for that. And Eric will 483 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: tell you I set him in the car. He was 484 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: right in my front seat crying. I was crying because 485 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: I can take a lot, but as a mom, don't do. 486 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 4: That to my kids. 487 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: And my kids are of the age where you know, 488 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: for me, they don't necessarily watch the show, but they 489 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: have friends, especially my two oldest ones, who their friends 490 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: watch the show with their mom. Like the show comes 491 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: on at eight o'clock, you know, they're still awake and 492 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: they'll say. 493 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 4: Oh, CARTHURR. 494 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: Cruz, I saw you on TV. So the conversation can 495 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: never be while your kids won't know, yes, they don't know. 496 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: They found out the same time y'all found out. They 497 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: have friends who watched the show, so they know that 498 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: they weren't invited. And as long as Robin has been 499 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: on this show, my kids are the only kids she's 500 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: ever had a playdate with. Our boys are the only 501 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: boys that had a football play date. So for her 502 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: to do that, I just felt like, wow, you know, 503 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: that's really really wrong. And then to answer your second 504 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: question about was this first story in life, I don't 505 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: know what it was for, but I know everyone, including 506 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: and I'll give it to some people who I don't 507 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: even you know, have the best relationship with, told her 508 00:25:59,320 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: that's wrong. 509 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 4: Don't do that. That's wrong. 510 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: People, they said, that's wrong, do not do that. And 511 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: she did not budge. She was like, I don't care. 512 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't care about those kids. I don't care. 513 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: Oh oh my, okay, I'm sorry. 514 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get emotional because I am such an 515 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: advocate for children. You know, even on my show Love 516 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: and Marriage Huntsville. You know, I tell the casts all 517 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: the time, kids are off limits. We're not gonna play 518 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: around with the kids. And no matter what they go 519 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 3: through as a cast, those kids are friends with each other. 520 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: And I always appreciated the fact that when there was 521 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 3: ever an event for the kids, that the kids would 522 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 3: definitely be there, even if the parents are gonna long 523 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: And I'm so sorry you have to go through that. Listen, 524 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: Robin isn't here to defend herself, so I'll give her 525 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 3: that as well, but that this is truly breaking my. 526 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: Heart, and I don't want people to hear me cry. 527 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 3: I don't stop good crying. I'm gonna change the subject 528 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 3: because I don't play that shit when it comes to kids. 529 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: You know what I feels, and it's a family funday, Like, 530 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: how are you gonna set you so? You want my 531 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: kids to come with candas to a family funday when 532 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: none of their family's there, and every other kid has 533 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: their family, Like, this is not making any sense to me. 534 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: I don't play with my kids. Why would I put 535 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: them in a position or an environment where the host 536 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: of the event doesn't even like their mom. You don't 537 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: have to invite me. You don't have to invite me. 538 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: That's fine, But then don't now try to backtrack and 539 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: try to come up with some convoluted, you know, way 540 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: to get my kids there. It would have made more 541 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: sense for her to say, hey, wan, call Eddie. Tell 542 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: Eddie to bring the kids. That would have made sense 543 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: them let them, let their dad bring them. That would 544 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: have made sense, right, Like, hey, no, when Doy you 545 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: have an issue that you have a problem with you 546 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: absolutely you're right. But you know what, tell Eddie to 547 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: bring the kids there? Thousand percent? That makes sense. 548 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: I hate you interrupt, but stay tuned for more. 549 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: We'll be right back after these quick ads. This is 550 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get 551 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 3: back into the show. So, like I said, I love Robin, 552 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: I love the girls. I was in Miami a few 553 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 3: months ago when y'all were filming, and I wanted to 554 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 3: surprise y'all because I am obsessed with this show, and 555 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna give much away. So I was able 556 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 3: to meet Giselle, Robin Cheries, and Ashley and they were 557 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: all lovely. We had a good ol' key key boom boom, 558 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 3: and I said, where are my other girls because I'm obsessed, 559 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 3: as you know, with you and Candace Kansas was shooting 560 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 3: something else. But again I'm not gonna give much away. 561 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: But Doctor Wendy wasn't there. This was the day after 562 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: this altercation happened at Peters Bar one restaurant in Miami. 563 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 3: Now that we've seen the trailer, we saw that Mia 564 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: through a drink at you. Now, I know you said earlier, girl, 565 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: you was watching Love and Hip Hop child, But what 566 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: the fuck happened to where your experience was like a 567 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 3: scene out of Love and Hip Hop Doctor Wendy. 568 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: Honestly, that whole that was wild. I would say it's 569 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: it was wild. And I always say, if you watch 570 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: that trailer again, pay attention to Karen's face. 571 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 2: She did. 572 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: We were not even there, like it wasn't It didn't 573 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: warrant that no one was expecting that. It completely came 574 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: out of the left field, and I would just tell 575 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: you guys to pay very close attention, you know, pay 576 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: very close attention to what was being discussed and whether 577 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: or not that it even elevated to that level. 578 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: Because you are a doctor, and you are a woman 579 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: who's been surrounded by educators and you're still you know, 580 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: you do a lot of work on different news channels. 581 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: In that moment or even afterwards, did you feel like 582 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: I have such a great career? Is this what I 583 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: signed up for? Like, did you think your credibility as 584 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: an educator was going to be diminished by your peers 585 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 3: because of that moment? 586 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: Yes? 587 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 4: And no. 588 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 1: In that moment when it happened, I thought of everything 589 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: I had accomplished and whether or not me retaliating was 590 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: worth losing all of those things. It was a split 591 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: second decision because you have natural reflexes. 592 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 4: Someone throws a drink at you, it's like. 593 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, you know what I mean, Like, 594 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: which is natural, right, but like you guys, see, in 595 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: that moment when it happens, I and then I just 596 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: think of my daughter, I think of my children. 597 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 4: I'm like, I've worked so damn hard, like Carlos, you know, 598 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 4: and we can vibe on this. 599 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: In the industry that is dominated by people who don't 600 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: look like you for you to achieve the level of 601 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: success you have, you know how hard you have worked 602 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: for me to achieve the level of. 603 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 4: Success I have. 604 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: Where I can choose what network I go on, where 605 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: I can do these things, where I'm at a top university, 606 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: is what I'm about to do worth risking all of that. 607 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: And in that moment, I had to say, you know what, 608 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: We're not going to do that because y'all can say 609 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: whatever you want about me, but baby, this career I 610 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: work damn hard for it, and I've earned earned everything 611 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: I have. Nothing was given to me, blood, sweat and tears. 612 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: I earned it all and I'm not going to let 613 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: the misactions of one person caused me to now and 614 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: throw all of that down the drain. 615 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 3: And without giving too much away, then we'll move on. 616 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 3: We saw that season five, there was a very healthy 617 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 3: conversation with the housewives after Monique and Cannas got into 618 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 3: their altercation. There was a sit down conversation that all 619 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 3: of you ladies were part of. May I ask you, 620 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 3: what's that same grace given to you? 621 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: After that moment, y'all are gonna see a lot of 622 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: people eat their words y'all remember everybody's position. How you 623 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: know this is not what we do with better than this? 624 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: Watch close attention. This season is about paying close attention 625 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: and paying attention to the ways that the goalpost is 626 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: continuously moved depending on who is on the receiving end. 627 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: That's what the season is about. To tie that to 628 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: your earlier question when you were talking about Robin, what 629 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: you guys will also see outside of the family Funday 630 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: is people doing everything in their power to ice me out. 631 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: And you will, guys, will see it throughout the season. 632 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,239 Speaker 1: You will see it throughout this This is not the 633 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: first time that family Funday. Oh that's child's play. That 634 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: is child's play. Stay locked in what you guys will 635 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: see throughout the season. 636 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 4: You guys will be like, what is it that serious? 637 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 4: This doesn't make any sense. 638 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: Well, doctor Wendy, I will say that. 639 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 3: And I said this to all the girls that I 640 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 3: know personally and spoken to this podcast. 641 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 2: You are needed for the show. Listen. 642 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 3: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The Real Housewives 643 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 3: of Potomac is a stellar cast of women. 644 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: All of you play your role. 645 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: I am walking away from this interview fully understanding the 646 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: woman that you are, and I know that, like you 647 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 3: said earlier, you're not obviously able to control your story 648 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 3: in terms of the bigger picture. But I really hope 649 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 3: a lot of people listen to this interview because I 650 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 3: now understand that you are a woman, Like a lot 651 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 3: of women, especially mothers, You're just figuring life out and 652 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 3: you're doing it day by day. And the only difference 653 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 3: between you and Sally Ann and Iowa is you have 654 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 3: a camera coop following your journey. And although it may 655 00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 3: not make sense to the audience, even me, I now understand, 656 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 3: and I want to say to you, I appreciate you 657 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 3: saying that because I now have a full understanding of 658 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 3: you as a as a full human, a full mother, 659 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: and a full wife, and a full entrepreneur and a 660 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 3: full time cast member. And you ain't going nowhere. So 661 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: thank you, doctor, Wendy girl. 662 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 4: Oh thank you so much. 663 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: Yes, so, my beautiful love. Where can people find you? 664 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: Follow you? The book? Where can they buy it? All 665 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: those things? 666 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 667 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: So you can follow me on all social media platforms 668 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: at WENDYOSEPHO. And the book Tears of My Mother The 669 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: Legacy of my nine year Upbringing is available wherever books 670 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 1: are sold, so go get a copy. 671 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 4: It's amazing. 672 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 3: Yes, but thank you Doctor Wendy and The Real House 673 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 3: Live atomac Airs every Sunday, eight o'clock, seven Central on 674 00:35:52,760 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 3: Bravo rain Drop. I really really enjoyed that conversation. I 675 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 3: love Doctor Wendy Osopo because at the end of the day, 676 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 3: y'all know was hard on her too about changing careers, 677 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 3: but after having a grand understanding of a woman who 678 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 3: was raised by Nigerian mother who didn't have many options 679 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: to choose. 680 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 2: From y'all, she's living her best life. 681 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 3: So if she wants to be a candle maker, a 682 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 3: restaurant owner, drop some beats. 683 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 2: Let doctor Wendy live. Y'all leave her alone. 684 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 3: And Doctor Wendy, if you're listening, make sure you call me, 685 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 3: honey when you're ready to start a production company. 686 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: I'm your boy. 687 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,959 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to Reality with the King. New 688 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 3: episodes dropped every Wednesday and Friday. 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