WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Prioritizing Draft Needs 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:08.760 This, He's Talking Cowboys, screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:18.160 World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Say here are 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:23.120 Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, Rob Phillips and Taylor Stern. 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:27.600 What's up? Welcome to Talking Cowboys and welcome to NFL 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:31.440 Draft Week, final show before the Draft kicks off Thursday 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:33.360 night at at and T Stadium, and we've got you 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.720 covered inside the SWBC Mortgage studio. Rob Phillips filling in 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.879 for Taylor in the hosting chair, David Hellman across from 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.959 me filling in for Tay. Hi. Hi, that was Mark 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:47.920 Kelsey than Taylor. That's fine. We love call too. There 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:51.560 you go. KNK Garrison producing next door with that wonderful drop. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:57.120 Brian brought us and Mickey Spagnola in as always, what's up, guys, Hey, 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.320 you guys ready, you guys ready for this countdown to 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.600 be over? It's very much so. Yes, Brian, you've looked 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:08.039 at eighteen hundred players roughly times yeah, times six, yeah, 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:12.199 three hundred, three hundred total and he's only been talking 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.600 about this for four months? What did you start with it? Thanksgiving? 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:20.360 When we I usually do it when there was still 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.760 some question about whether this team was and still in 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.199 the playoff hunt, and I used, but I usually started 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.120 December fifth. And that's kind of the way that, uh, 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.319 why do you do that, Brian? Is it kind of 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:36.000 an homage? It's that I if I don't if I 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.560 don't do it, then I won't get into the three 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.119 hundred players done that kind I had start. You didn't 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.280 wait till they lost the Seattle No, I've I have 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.280 the last one, the one that it really all started 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.480 when way back when ROMA was laying on the field 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.920 against Carolina, That's what I was getting at. Yeah, and 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.520 I was Thanksgiving Day and I was sitting in the 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:59.440 press box and I texted Jeff, Jeff Cavanaugh, Kevin Turner. 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:03.320 I said, draft preps starts Tuesday. Be ready, and they 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.800 both takes that, gack, we're on it. And so that's 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:09.040 when that's it's traditionally December fifth. So that's kind of 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:13.239 my new bracing himself. He's bracing himself for the thought 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.320 of no playoffs, you know, because you didn't start. You 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.680 didn't start in December in sixteen. You know, I did 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.160 not you knew you had playoffs to worry about sixteen. 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.720 I did I did, but yeah, it's a nice way 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.520 to kind of it's like your head and your bets like, well, 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:27.800 it might as well get started just in case we don't. 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.000 There's two there's two or three weeks where you don't, 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:32.799 you know, you don't do anything, we don't get the 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.760 watch tape, I'll go out and have to go do 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:38.240 things and stuff. And so if I don't, I've learned 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.160 if I don't put it by then, I mean I 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:44.359 looked at my last three three hundredth player yesterday. That 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.480 was it, and and here I am, like, what two 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.200 three days before the draft, So that's always been my 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.000 number to try and get to three hundred. Is that 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.760 your mister irrelevant guy? Or is that just it's not 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.560 necessarily by talent. Yeah, yeah he was. Uh it was. 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.640 It was he was not mister irrelevant, but he was 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.400 a seventh round guy. Yeah, it was. It was just 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.840 to know a guy. That's the great thing about our 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.359 Draft show and our Draft Cabbage, I think everybody involved 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.240 is that when you listen to us, it's it's we 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.160 can talk about all the picks. You know, Dame Burglar 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.720 will give you a scouting report about mister irrelevant and 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:17.320 last year we were able to give it, I think, 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.959 or thus you're two years ago? Was it Kelly from 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:21.959 Old Miss Yeah, we all kind of had a Chad 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.400 Kelly all had an idea. So, yeah, draft courbage is 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.560 worth kind of hanging out with us because we do 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.600 take it pretty serious. A good thing. You weren't there 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.760 in the seventies when they went seventeen rounds and probably 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.720 figure out I got a real quick story if you 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.400 don't mind it. Yeah, when I was at the Green 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:43.800 Bay my first draft in ninety two was twelve rounds. 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.680 Twelve rounds, so that was the only the only time 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.480 I ever had to go through a twelve round draft. 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.520 But there was a gentleman that was that worked with 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:54.360 Vince Lombardi named Dave Hanner, Dave hog Hanner, it was 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.120 his name, And Dave was a scout with us in 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.680 Green Bay and he was a coach on Lombardi staff 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:01.160 in the sixties. And this is when they had the 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:05.000 seventeen round draft and they had to catch the train 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.480 to go play. This is when the draft was during 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.040 the season. They would do it at either end of 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:13.400 November or sometime in December. So yeah, so Hoggy had 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.360 to go catch the train. The team was going to 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.960 play the West Coast Swing with the Rams and the 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:19.960 forty nine ers, so he had to get the train 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.960 to get out there. Well, they got into like the 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:26.360 seventeenth round. He left three names for the administrative assistant 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.600 one of the ladies, and he says, if any one 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.640 of these guys is still there picking so in here 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:35.240 in the seventeenth round, an administrative assistant for the Green 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.800 Bay Packers. She made the pick, you know, and he 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.160 had to go catch the train. He goes, I don't 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.080 have time to work on this and where I gotta go. God, 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.360 that sounds like a fantasy draft where you like kind 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.599 of set you out at guys. Yeah, I got who 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.920 I want. Just here's my auto list for the rest 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:50.440 of this. I gotta go to a birthday party. Say, 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:54.080 a twelve round draft is it's exhausting. It really is. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.840 And we Kath think we did in two days. That's 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.200 too much. It was it was, you know, it was incredible, 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.480 but it great experience, a lot of fun, really enjoyed happy. 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.520 The drafts here though, sound like we got a lot 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.239 of good things going on with it. Sounded so that 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.920 that sounds like when that's how Larry Brown got drafted. 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.200 It was twelfth round and Jimmy got tired and he 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:18.599 walked out and he basically said, just grab somebody close. Yeah, 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.120 so they don't have to pay money to pay him 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:23.760 to fly in. And it's like, oh, they got a 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.800 cornerback at TCU, let's bring him in. Wow, weren't that 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.880 okay in a Super Bowl? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So yeah, 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.599 drafts are strange. Lady strange, lady. Put it on a 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.600 T shirt here. We had him outside of at and 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.320 T Stadium. Wish we had Drew Pearson last night up 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.640 at the Cowboy Club and he was explaining to the 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.080 folks how he sat there for two days at four 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.920 hundred and forty some picks, sure, and he didn't get taken, 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.800 and he said, talk about being humbled. And then immediately 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.880 when the draft was over, the phone rang. It was 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:57.279 the Cowboys, the Packers, and the Steelers. Yeah, so he said, well, 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.960 I didn't feel so bad. At least three good teams 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:04.400 liked me one time, and we drafted a kid named 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:08.400 Derek Mays in Green Bay. Just before call waiting. I 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.359 talked to him on the phone for two hours to 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.440 keep other teams from calling in to pick him. I 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.680 can't believe he didn't hang up on you. Yeah, talk 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.320 to him. What do you talk him to him? I 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.760 don't talk to him. Derek mays with school Notre Dame. 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:23.000 So there's plenty of things to remember that guy. Yeah, 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.279 Derek made second round pick for the Packers, and I talked. 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.719 I kept him on the phone for two hours, philibuster, 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:31.159 I did. That's azing. And so ron Wolf walked in 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.560 and goes, tell him he's a tell him he's a 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:37.159 green Bay Packer and I'm like, Derek, long journey over, 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:42.160 congratulationshire packer. He goes, that's great, man, I appreciate. So 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.640 we had this friendship when he came to Green Bay. 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:46.200 But yeah, he played a he was a good player 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.640 out of Notre Dame. But yeah, before call waiting, we 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:52.680 drafted a kid one time two that the fourth cell 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.719 phones really that he was in the movies. Third round, 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.680 we just took him. We you know where it's it's like, okay, 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.760 Antonio Freeman draft him in the third round, like you 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.440 couldn't get hold of him, could't get ahold him as 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.480 he was gone. He did, he wasn't around his phone. Wow. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.720 So we just said, well, let's take him anyway, and 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.920 we drafted him. But he didn't know he got drafted 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.320 until he got home and got a message that we'd 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.160 picked him in the third round. What a weird, What 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.640 a weird, thought my cell phone. How times have changed? 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.200 Yeah about that in the draft magazine talked to Gil 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.440 Brand about how it's evolved just just a little bit, 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:27.400 just a b from a little conference room and all. Yeah. 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.840 And they used to, you know, and it wasn't that 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.640 long ago, probably went through the nineties where when it 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:38.000 free agency began after the draft, you would send your 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.360 scouts to certain spots and sit on this guy and 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.800 make sure the minute the drafts over, you go knock 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.160 on the door. We did that, and we sent a coach, 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.160 We sent a defensive line coach to all the way 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:53.280 from Green Bay to Los Angeles. Bruce Walker was and 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.480 we a matter of fact, our coach was knocked on 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:57.400 the door after draft to try and sign him. And 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:01.120 he says, I'm gonna go to the Jets. And he's like, okay. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.160 And so when he called back, we're like, Larry, did 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.080 you get the guy? And he goes, no, he went 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.880 to the Jets. We're all like Larry. You were the 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.760 only person there. How did you lose him? You had 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.000 to face the yeah you had. He goes, no, the 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.640 kid want to go the Jets And I'm like, no, 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.440 you were sent to go recruit this kid. Have you 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.040 ever recruited a kid? He's like, he want to go 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.160 the Jets. That's the last time we ever sent a 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.560 coach out to do that, the very last. That's how 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.920 the Cowboys got Drew. They had Bob Griffin their scout 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.960 in Tulsa. Bob Griffin, good scout, And as soon as 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.400 the draft was over, he was the first one to call, 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:39.440 and he was in town at the hotel and said, Hey, 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.200 come on over, Hey, great recruit. About the story about 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.760 Sean Payton and Tony Romo. He talked about somebody talked 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.880 to a player. For two hours. He constantly was telling 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.280 Tony Romo what was going on. A lot of really 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.200 good recruiting on his part to get that done. I 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.000 spoke to Sean at the combine for a Deep Blue 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.080 were doing on Bill Parcellas and the O three season, 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.079 and basically got to the point where he said, Bill, 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.160 you gotta get on the phone yeah with him to 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.280 seal the deal. Yeah, because it I'm not I'm not 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.280 cutting it or I'm not you know. He was trying, man, Yeah, 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.160 he was trying, you know, and he wound up taking 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:14.320 I think ten grand lesson signing bonus just too because 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.720 he saw opportunity. Hey, one of the great closers on 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.240 the phone is Jerry. You get Jerry will get the mom, 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.400 the dad, the great he will. He will get everybody 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:24.760 on the phone and buy the end of it. You're 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.880 giving him money, you know, I mean they're there, but 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.160 he is one of the You put Jerry Jones on 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.280 the phone to get a kid to come here. It 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.240 is it is, it is money. Just move the tag 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.520 from over here to your board because he is. He's 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.000 one of the best. When it comes to clothing. Just 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.280 don't go in his office unless you're buying. Yeah, Like, 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.520 if you don't want to, don't go in because I 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:47.400 will buy whatever he's selling. It used to be so 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.760 amazed how he ran a draft. You know, you could 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:51.680 get on him about the picks and stuff like that, 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.960 but he would get people. He could convince general managers 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:56.880 to tell them who he was gonna they were gonna take. 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.440 And usually when you call it general manager will say 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.680 what he here, We're gonna go offense here, okay, thanks, 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.559 click the phone. Hey, they're going offense. Jerry is getting 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.560 general managers. Do tell them who he's they're gonna take, 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:10.800 and then that way. Now we're like, hey, man, we 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.480 could trade down they're not taking our guy. We could 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.160 trade down here. You know, he's one of the best 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.880 when it came to work in a phone. The greatness 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.640 got to be an art to that. Oh, it says 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:22.560 he knows how to do a deal. Yeah, he knows 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.360 how he can convince you that you need to be 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.680 a part of this. That's what he does. Go look 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:31.760 at those offices across the word. Sure, yeah, they're full. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:36.240 They're full. They're full. You don't need to rent this space. Well, 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.960 we'll see what Jerry and the Cowboys get done Thursday 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:43.200 through Saturday. And you guys have a draft show tonight. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:46.520 we worry about a day. Come on out to Henry's 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:50.880 in Plano on Legacy from five to seven. We'll be there. 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.120 We'll be talking about Miller Light, we'll be talking about 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:58.320 the draft, throwing back some bruise, talking football. Yeah, it's 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.600 gonna be dope lovely, all right, Listen, to this somewhere else. Yes, 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:03.840 you can. Yeah, it's it's all on all our regular 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:07.319 stuff at Dallas Cowboys dot com. Absolute. Why wouldn't you 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:08.640 want to come to the bar man? You can have 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.640 a right down on the street. I like Henry's it's 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.840 good playing bar. It's gonna be in the bar area 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.040 or the little room in the back. Don't know the end. 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.120 We will figure that out and we get there. But yeah, 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.720 like they've said, five to seven, come on by two 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.160 hours of Draft Talk yet talk. Yeah, all right, we'll 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.040 w y'all do a great job of diving into prospects, 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:26.320 and we can do that a little bit today. But 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.000 what I wanted to do for the last show before 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:30.920 the draft here on Talk Cowboys is just kind of 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:34.600 go down the list of needs for the Cowboys, where 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.480 they stand, what they've done in the offseason, position by position. 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.680 We can just run through it and see kind of 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.440 where they are. We know some of the big needs. 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.600 What are maybe some other ones that they could have 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:46.960 at some point in rounds one through seven. I'm just 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.040 gonna go down the list, fellas, how about this? Cool? Go? 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.360 Let's start with quarterback? Sure, what do you think where 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.880 do they address it, if at all, Where do you 0:11:55.880 --> 0:12:00.200 think they stand behind dak right now? Saturday afternoon un 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:04.080 or Saturday evening with a fifth to seventh round pick 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:08.439 or a priority free agent signed after the draft? Maybe two? Maybe? 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.320 Well yeah, I mean, yeah, they'll take two quarterbacks to camp, 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.920 but two more right when they'll take four to camp. Yes, 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.240 they'll take two new ones to camp. Yeah, sorry, um, 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.520 but one of them? I think I mean the joke. 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:22.520 I don't think it's that much of a joke. Like, 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.560 I'm not gonna be surprised if Matt Lanahan's on this 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.000 team by the time it's all said and done. He's 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.680 a quarterback out of Idaho. He's related to one of 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.040 the decision makers here. I had his breakfast with his 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:33.559 dad this morning. Do you ask him about it? I 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.680 asked him it said he's got He says that. He 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.400 says there's ten teams that are interested in him right now. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.240 He says he's really comfortable about the free agent route. 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.439 If he gets picked, great, he'd love to go, But 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.160 he says a free agency he gets a crack. He 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:47.920 says he'd like to You know, that way, a free 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:49.760 agency you can kind of choose where you want to go. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.560 You can kind of look at a roster and say, hey, 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.640 I got a chance to be a third there, or 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.040 I could be a practice squad guy. So he's gonna 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.360 he's excited. But yeah, I talked to Scott about it 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.079 this morning and he's looking forward to it again. Ten teams. Interesting, 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.040 But how much Tony Romo put that into his decision 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.840 to come here when he looked at the quarterbacks and said, huh, yeah, 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.000 just give me a chance. I did. I look up? Yeah, 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.520 in Denver were the two teams that were involved. Yeah, 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:18.160 Shanahan being a Western Illinois selling point that story. Eastern Illinois. 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:22.080 It was Parcels and those guys, the Cowboys. Brass told him, look, 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:25.480 the competition is settled in Denver. It's not settled here, right, 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.400 And that's ultimately what drove him. Yeah, worked out pretty good. Okay, 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:32.920 So for a guy that late Lalta, yeah, he's probably 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.679 more probably maybe a day two guy, Mickey, Oh, you're 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.679 not gonna make it to throw. No, No, you're you're, 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.360 you're you're kind of in that quarterback quarterback sucks to 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.240 figure out because these guys always it does these guys 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.960 always get drafted. I mean we're we're talking about maybe 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.880 Josh Allen going number one overall in the draft. That's ludicrous, 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.880 This shouldn't happen. But quarterbacks a special type of deal. 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.560 That's I mean. Mason Rudolph, well, you got a fourth 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.560 round grade on him. Yeah, fifth round grade. Actually, excuse 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:58.959 be a fourth round grade. You're right, he could. He 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.360 could go in the first round or or very early 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.560 on Day two. Loletta could be a Day two guy. 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.840 Mike White, Mike White's another West to Kentucky. Yeah, So 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:10.120 like that's I feel like they I bet they want 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.000 to spend a draft pick on a quarterback, but I 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.319 wonder if anybody they like will still be there when 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.240 they're ready to draft one, you know, because they have 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.480 six seven exact I mean, yeah, they've got three six 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.720 round picks. And like you're talking about Mickey though, there's 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.440 kids like the fawk kid at Washington State would be 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:28.160 a guy Ben Kirk from Virginia, Virginia Lytton, you know, 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.280 and Marshall Marshall and then Woodside from Toledo. Those are 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.760 the kind of the names you're you're talking about right now. 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:37.000 Loletta would be a guy that once the five go he's, 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.280 like Dave said, he's in the mix with White and 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:43.040 Rudolph and those guys had an excellent Senior Bowl. Correct, Absolutely, Yeah, 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:44.960 I just want I mean those a ball really well. 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.400 Like I said, I feel like I'd be surprised if 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.600 they want a draft one before like the fifth round. 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.040 Yeah yeah, but as a guy that they like still 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.440 gonna be there by the time those rounds roll around, 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.560 which is why I wouldn't be surprised if they just 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.680 signed a priority free agent either that they may have 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.040 a late round grade, only that might still be We 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:02.960 did a mock draft just send the draft show and 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.320 didn't pick a quarterback. Yeah no, we just kind of 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:07.960 kind of went by position by position but didn't grab 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:09.760 a quarterback. But in a lot of our mock drafts 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.080 we've done for Dallas Cowboys dot Com, we seem to 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.080 pick a quarterback at some point in time. As Duch 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.400 told us at the combine, Sorry, Dave, there's some interest 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.480 in developing another young guy. But dak over they didn't 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.400 sign a vet, you know, and they've got Cooper Rush, 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.640 so that kind of makes sense to potentially draft a 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.440 guy late. But I don't I don't view it as 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.440 a big enough need that they would force it, you 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.840 know what I mean. And and for for all the 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.400 people listening that you know, like, well you don't you're 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:35.640 not settled on Dak. You gotta blah blah blah. Okay, 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.760 even if that's how you feel. If if, if Dak 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:40.080 is a problem to the point where you got to 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.600 draft a quarterback, do that next year with a much 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:46.040 better pick. You know that that's I mean, that's a 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.320 waste of a pick this year in my opinion. All Right, 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.120 we rolled down the list running back. We know they're 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:57.360 set with Zeke, They like Rod Smith. Beyond that, okay, 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.800 Alfred Morris is a free agent, has not been res 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.400 hind or signed anywhere else he won't be signed. So 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:08.680 all you got is Williams. Yeah, Tray running back, Trey Williams. 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:14.200 So you need one, yeah, And you need the I 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.640 think we've talked about it before, the little toy running back, 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.600 the Lance Dunbarer replacement. Can I convince you to take it? 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.040 Just a legitimate running back. That's what I would rather do, 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.400 to be perfect. If you know, what's a situation. And 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.200 we all hope that things work out with Zeke, But 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.320 and and We've seen some positive things from Rod Smith, 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.720 but not as an every down type player. If something 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:39.280 were to happen, would you want somebody that is legitimately 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.880 carried the ball a bunch more so than the toy. Yeah. 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.520 I gotta do that though, to get a quality one, 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.560 fourth round, fourth round, fifth round. Still, this is a 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.320 deep class. Yeah. Yeah, the kid the kid they brought 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:54.000 in Edo Smith as a smaller guy. But then you're 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.040 talking about names. If you want to go like at 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.080 eighty one that you know that would be like Hines 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.960 would be that. Yeah, yeah, you know, we've talked about 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:06.600 Walton Kelly. Those are two guys. Walton from Miami, Kelly 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.320 from Tennessee and Hinds kind of a smaller He's he's 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.479 he's more. I think you can hand him the ball down. Yeah, 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.160 you can hand him the ball because that's a guy 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:15.560 I kind of like. I'll tell you the guy you 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:18.200 should really talk about is the Wadley kid from Iowa. 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:20.280 That's who I would look like him. I like him 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.240 a lot. While about the LSU guy for a real 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:26.080 running back, Darryl Hell yeah, L sign me up. I 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.199 don't think that. I don't know that they would do it. 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:29.600 But I love that guy. I think he's a little 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:31.679 bit more of a later guy yeah than that, but 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.600 he's a kind of a oh he's sure, he's total running, 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.960 he's a he's a hoss about big guy. Yeah, I 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:42.359 just I mean, Zeke's already got a strike on his record. 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.760 That's something worth keeping an eye on. As much as 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.080 I like Rod Smith, he's just got one year left 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.199 on his deal. So you know, I absolutely think they 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.960 should draft a running back. Probably again, not till day 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.520 Three's your answer. Okay, it's a need, but not a 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.040 need that should be keeping anybody up at night. A 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.399 day two to day three need. Probably more of a 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.600 day profferably day three, day three unless you just love 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.480 Nihiem Hines if you just absolutely got to have them. Yeah, Well, 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:10.960 I think it's a good spot to break and come 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.440 back with wide receiver, oh boy, and discuss that position 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.960 further and see what the Cowboys might do, maybe as 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.720 early as nineteen on Thursday night. We'll see what happens 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:21.560 when we come back. Let's keep breaking it down on 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.560 talking Cowboys. It can be hard to find the right 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:27.200 resource for learning about important financial matters. You search how 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.360 to build savings, you end up reading about the one 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:33.400 weird ingredient from supermarkets that can make you taller. 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