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Speaker 1: This, He's Talking Cowboys, screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Say here are

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, Rob Phillips and Taylor Stern.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Welcome to Talking Cowboys and welcome to NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft Week, final show before the Draft kicks off Thursday

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Speaker 1: night at at and T Stadium, and we've got you

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Speaker 1: covered inside the SWBC Mortgage studio. Rob Phillips filling in

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Speaker 1: for Taylor in the hosting chair, David Hellman across from

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Speaker 1: me filling in for Tay. Hi. Hi, that was Mark

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Speaker 1: Kelsey than Taylor. That's fine. We love call too. There

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Speaker 1: you go. KNK Garrison producing next door with that wonderful drop.

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us and Mickey Spagnola in as always, what's up, guys, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you guys ready, you guys ready for this countdown to

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Speaker 1: be over? It's very much so. Yes, Brian, you've looked

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Speaker 1: at eighteen hundred players roughly times yeah, times six, yeah,

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Speaker 1: three hundred, three hundred total and he's only been talking

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Speaker 1: about this for four months? What did you start with it? Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: When we I usually do it when there was still

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Speaker 1: some question about whether this team was and still in

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Speaker 1: the playoff hunt, and I used, but I usually started

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Speaker 1: December fifth. And that's kind of the way that, uh,

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Speaker 1: why do you do that, Brian? Is it kind of

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Speaker 1: an homage? It's that I if I don't if I

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Speaker 1: don't do it, then I won't get into the three

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Speaker 1: hundred players done that kind I had start. You didn't

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Speaker 1: the last one, the one that it really all started

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Speaker 1: when way back when ROMA was laying on the field

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Speaker 1: against Carolina, That's what I was getting at. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I was Thanksgiving Day and I was sitting in the

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Speaker 1: press box and I texted Jeff, Jeff Cavanaugh, Kevin Turner.

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Speaker 1: I said, draft preps starts Tuesday. Be ready, and they

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Speaker 1: both takes that, gack, we're on it. And so that's

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Speaker 1: when that's it's traditionally December fifth. So that's kind of

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Speaker 1: my new bracing himself. He's bracing himself for the thought

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Speaker 1: of no playoffs, you know, because you didn't start. You

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Speaker 1: didn't start in December in sixteen. You know, I did

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Speaker 1: not you knew you had playoffs to worry about sixteen.

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Speaker 1: I did I did, but yeah, it's a nice way

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Speaker 1: to kind of it's like your head and your bets like, well,

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Speaker 1: it might as well get started just in case we don't.

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Speaker 1: There's two there's two or three weeks where you don't,

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't do anything, we don't get the

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Speaker 1: watch tape, I'll go out and have to go do

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Speaker 1: things and stuff. And so if I don't, I've learned

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Speaker 1: if I don't put it by then, I mean I

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Speaker 1: looked at my last three three hundredth player yesterday. That

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Speaker 1: three days before the draft, So that's always been my

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Speaker 1: number to try and get to three hundred. Is that

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Speaker 1: your mister irrelevant guy? Or is that just it's not

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Speaker 1: necessarily by talent. Yeah, yeah he was. Uh it was.

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Speaker 1: It was he was not mister irrelevant, but he was

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Speaker 1: a seventh round guy. Yeah, it was. It was just

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Speaker 1: to know a guy. That's the great thing about our

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Speaker 1: Draft show and our Draft Cabbage, I think everybody involved

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Speaker 1: is that when you listen to us, it's it's we

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Speaker 1: can talk about all the picks. You know, Dame Burglar

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Speaker 1: will give you a scouting report about mister irrelevant and

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Speaker 1: last year we were able to give it, I think,

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Speaker 1: or thus you're two years ago? Was it Kelly from

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Speaker 1: Old Miss Yeah, we all kind of had a Chad

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Speaker 1: Kelly all had an idea. So, yeah, draft courbage is

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Speaker 1: worth kind of hanging out with us because we do

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Speaker 1: take it pretty serious. A good thing. You weren't there

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Speaker 1: But there was a gentleman that was that worked with

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Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi named Dave Hanner, Dave hog Hanner, it was

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Speaker 1: that sounds like a fantasy draft where you like kind

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Speaker 1: of set you out at guys. Yeah, I got who

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Speaker 1: a twelve round draft is it's exhausting. It really is.

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Speaker 1: And we Kath think we did in two days. That's

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Speaker 1: The drafts here though, sound like we got a lot

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Speaker 1: It was twelfth round and Jimmy got tired and he

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Speaker 1: walked out and he basically said, just grab somebody close. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he said, talk about being humbled. And then immediately

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Speaker 1: we had this friendship when he came to Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he played a he was a good player

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Speaker 1: we a matter of fact, our coach was knocked on

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Speaker 1: And so when he called back, we're like, Larry, did

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton and Tony Romo. He talked about somebody talked

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Speaker 1: and basically got to the point where he said, Bill,

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Speaker 1: I think ten grand lesson signing bonus just too because

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Speaker 1: he saw opportunity. Hey, one of the great closers on

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Speaker 1: the phone is Jerry. You get Jerry will get the mom,

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Speaker 1: on the phone and buy the end of it. You're

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Speaker 1: giving him money, you know, I mean they're there, but

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Speaker 1: he is one of the You put Jerry Jones on

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Speaker 1: the phone to get a kid to come here. It

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Speaker 1: is it is, it is money. Just move the tag

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Speaker 1: from over here to your board because he is. He's

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Speaker 1: one of the best. When it comes to clothing. Just

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Speaker 1: don't go in his office unless you're buying. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 1: amazed how he ran a draft. You know, you could

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Speaker 1: And usually when you call it general manager will say

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Speaker 1: and Talk Cowboys. We are rolling through position by position

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Speaker 1: needs for your Dallas Cowboys as the draft years. We

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Speaker 1: covered quarterback, running back, and wide receivers next, and that's

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Speaker 1: kind of a need for this team. Is it? Is? That?

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Speaker 1: Is that what they're saying, saying? You got an audience, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's what they're saying these days. Yeah, hello, welcome so

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Speaker 1: wide receiver huh yeah, post does Bryant? Okay, go get

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Speaker 1: me one first or second round or bust? Nah? First, second, third, yeah,

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Speaker 1: third round or bust. Brian. I'll tell you what. We

467
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Speaker 1: did a mock draft yesterday. They got actually a guy.

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Speaker 1: They visited James Washington all the way down round yeah,

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Speaker 1: third round eight, third round yeah. And I mean we

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Speaker 1: felt pretty true about the mock draft the way it rolled,

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Speaker 1: but we we had a we had a discussion to

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Speaker 1: make and this kind of gets into something else, if

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Speaker 1: you want to get into a little further is that Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: We ran into this problem yesterday. We were trying to

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Speaker 1: determine after taking vander esh at nineteen, would you try

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Speaker 1: and go back up for a wide receiver at thirty

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Speaker 1: seven with the Colts, and we determined it would be

478
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Speaker 1: a little bit of an overpay yep, to have to

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Speaker 1: give your eighty one to go do it, but that's

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Speaker 1: what it's probably going to take. Well, we've talked about

481
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Speaker 1: how there's a and y'all have plenty on the Draft show.

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Speaker 1: There's a group of receivers that, all right, maybe you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't take at nineteen, but they're probably not gonna last

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Speaker 1: to fifty. Yeah. Well wait, yeah, we ended up now

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Speaker 1: again they appear to like Courtland Sutton from SMU quite

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Speaker 1: a bit. So Courtland Sutton we were thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: We said, no, we're gonna sit and just wait for

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Speaker 1: our pick at fifty. Well what happened then is the

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Speaker 1: Colts took him at thirty seven. So now are you

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Speaker 1: kicking yourself for not trying to make the deal? Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that going to be the trade up in this

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Speaker 1: in this draft? But I gotta give up a third

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Speaker 1: to get there. You gotta go. You're gonna lose. Probably

494
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Speaker 1: you're gonna lose an opportunity to draft a safety at

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Speaker 1: safety at eighty one or a guard that's your guard spot.

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Speaker 1: Third round. That's where I come down on this, which

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would like for this team to draft

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver. I don't think it's a but you

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Speaker 1: don't want You don't want Courtland Sutton. It's your problem.

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Speaker 1: I don't. No, I don't want Courtland Sutton if I

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Speaker 1: have to give up pick eighty one to get him,

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Speaker 1: absolutely not. Okay, Well, then the way it rolled, we

503
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Speaker 1: just let it go. We took Anthony Miller, the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver from Memphis, which is a very good play in

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Speaker 1: the second in the second round. Okay, So here's my question.

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Speaker 1: So how many wide receivers do you think will go

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Speaker 1: in the first What made one to three? One to three? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So the gap difference between those one to three to

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Speaker 1: what you would get in the second or third round.

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Speaker 1: My my, I had no problem taking Anthony Miller at

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Speaker 1: fifty because he's my first player in the second round,

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Speaker 1: my top receiver in the second round. I have Sutton

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Speaker 1: behind him, Okay, and then Gallop in Washington. Now, all

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Speaker 1: those guys win the second round. But we kind of

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Speaker 1: were thinking the way the draft fell, we thought there

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Speaker 1: was going to be a run on receivers at the

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Speaker 1: top of the board. There really wasn't. It was a

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Speaker 1: run on corners. Yeah, is what happened. That'd be a

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Speaker 1: good thing. So so yeah, but we had a chop

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Speaker 1: chance to pick Miller. They might not like Miller, they

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Speaker 1: might not We like Miller, they like Washington. No, hecames

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Speaker 1: a guy that thirty visited. Can we talk about this

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Speaker 1: in a little bit more ambiguous terms, Just pull pull

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Speaker 1: back from the names from the guys on the cover

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Speaker 1: of this magazine real quick. How do you feel about

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Speaker 1: wide receiver right now? Yeah? I could go play a

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Speaker 1: game with the guys you have. I've said this on

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Speaker 1: the show. Alan Hearns has to be the guy they

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Speaker 1: signed him to play. In my opinion, Dez Bryant's position

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Speaker 1: pending what happens in the draft. You signed him thinking

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Speaker 1: he could be a guy that starts for you. Yeah, So, Mick,

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Speaker 1: can this team play and win games with what they

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Speaker 1: have or do they have to have a guy? I

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Speaker 1: think they would be okay, but I think they need

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Speaker 1: a guy. All right, Draft expert, how many of these

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Speaker 1: guys do you think can make a real instant impact?

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Speaker 1: I think if you draft more, I think I think

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Speaker 1: the top two can make an impact. I think Ridley

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Speaker 1: and More can make an impact. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Sudden necessarily can. I don't feel confident feel confident about

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Speaker 1: Miller though. I don't feel I'll get I'll even give

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Speaker 1: you Miller, I'll give you Anthony Miller. I don't feel

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Speaker 1: confidence at any buddy else after those three is ready

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Speaker 1: to just step in and take Alan Huns or Terrence

545
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Speaker 1: Williams job. But we're what we've determined on this show.

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Speaker 1: While last week was that if you just get Alan

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Speaker 1: Hurns to play at Dez Bryant's last year's numbers, would

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Speaker 1: you feel good about that? Absolutely? Okay, But that's the

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Speaker 1: sorry go ahead. I feel like though that to me,

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Speaker 1: I know where you're going here. Receiver I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's the absolute. I think linebacker is more of a

552
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Speaker 1: problem myself. The point I'm trying to make is that

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Speaker 1: it seems unlikely unless you pick somebody at nineteen, basically

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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley or DJ Moore, Right, you're not going to

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Speaker 1: get a guy that's gonna make this splash impact. I

556
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Speaker 1: don't trust that Courtland Sutton and James Washington are ready

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Speaker 1: to step in and catch more than twenty or thirty

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Speaker 1: passes this well, you know what about eventually? Sure, eventually,

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Speaker 1: but then and that that goes back to my whole point,

560
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Speaker 1: which is that receiver. If you're drafting a receiver in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, you're doing it for twenty nineteen and beyond.

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Speaker 1: Now one of your starting receivers did have offseason surgery

563
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Speaker 1: and now yeah, it's only a fifth Meta Tarsl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think by training camp they feel like

565
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Speaker 1: he'll be fine. For sure, he's probably gonna miss him

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Speaker 1: off season work, Terrence Williams. But it is something to consider. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So these wide receivers compared to previous top wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: would they if the need wasn't there for a wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: would they be that high in the first round, sort

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Speaker 1: of like the quarterbacks are currently up there right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like they're worthy first round grades. They are absolutely okay,

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Speaker 1: both both Ridley and and more More, they're clearly they're

573
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Speaker 1: clearly not on the level of past years though becoming

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Speaker 1: we've seen it, we've seen those guys. Also, like you said,

575
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Speaker 1: struggle the first year, said okay, so let's compare a

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Speaker 1: Marie Cooper, Well, he was the one guy Cooper's come in.

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Speaker 1: If you gave me a choice between Ridley and Cooper,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking Cooper, Yeah, Ridley or a Cooper and more

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Speaker 1: I'm taking I've got more over Ridley for me. He's

580
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Speaker 1: saying more, No, I meant compared to Cooper. Yeah, Cooper.

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Speaker 1: Cooper to me is better than any one of these

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Speaker 1: receivers that are in the first So are these receivers

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Speaker 1: sort of like the quarterbacks probably in this draft, if

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a quarterback from a talent standpoint, they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be five of them in the first ten picks. I

586
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Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. See when you talk about Cooper

587
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Speaker 1: ten picks, you know, top twelve picks right legitimate. I

589
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Speaker 1: don't see. I don't see if you look at my

590
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Speaker 1: top thirty. If you look at my top thirty, I

591
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Speaker 1: don't have. I don't like to say I have. I

592
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Speaker 1: look at it in my first receivers at ten, that's

593
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Speaker 1: it more and then Calvin Ridley's at twelve. So I

594
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Speaker 1: think I would have Cooper and those guys much higher

595
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Speaker 1: than I would have these. I think this is a

596
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Speaker 1: deep receiver class, but the top of the class is

597
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Speaker 1: weaker than in previous years. Yeah, that was my end point.

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Speaker 1: That's so second round, third round. I'm not I'm not

599
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Speaker 1: trying to give up. And you know, Courtland Sutton could

600
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Speaker 1: become a stud in the same way Des did. I'm

601
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Speaker 1: not saying that's impossible, but I don't like the idea

602
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Speaker 1: of giving up two of my best picks to get

603
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Speaker 1: a guy. The learning curve for him is a lot,

604
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Speaker 1: a lot that's steeper. So for if I tell you

605
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Speaker 1: you can trade you got a trade up from fifty

606
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Speaker 1: and give up eighty one to do it to get Sutton,

607
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Speaker 1: or you can just hope that James Washington's there for

608
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Speaker 1: you at eighty one. That seems like a no brainer

609
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Speaker 1: to me. Just wait for the guy. Yeah, because I

610
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Speaker 1: we go back to I feel like they've tried to

611
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Speaker 1: cover themselves at that position actually where you don't have

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Speaker 1: to give up a bunch of resources. There's no there's

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Speaker 1: no question you have two years. You have two years, right,

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Speaker 1: and Burns signed a two year draft. You could draft

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Speaker 1: one of these guys at eighty one and then next

616
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Speaker 1: year you take your shot and hope somebody's there for

617
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Speaker 1: you in the first rounds you like better. We got

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Speaker 1: to Washington, got all the way down to Pittsburgh at

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Speaker 1: nineties something. I mean if then that's a guy they

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Speaker 1: brought in on a thirty visit, so I mean, that's

621
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Speaker 1: a guy obviously they like it's it's something I think

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Speaker 1: they can wait. They need to try to address it

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Speaker 1: by the end of Friday. But I just don't think

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Speaker 1: it's true that they just have to have one on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. I'm with you on that, all right, tight end,

626
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Speaker 1: which we got some news last Friday that they're one

627
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Speaker 1: short at tight end, at least behind Jason Witton. James Hannah,

628
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Speaker 1: placed on the reserve retired list, had some knee problems

629
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, missed all of that season,

630
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Speaker 1: he's hanging it up. So how big of a need

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Speaker 1: does it become? Was it already a need something you

632
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Speaker 1: have to address at some point looking for a successor

633
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Speaker 1: to Jason Witton down the line? I thought it was

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Speaker 1: a need even before Hannah retired. He was on his

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Speaker 1: last year. Swain's on his last year. Is Whitton on

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Speaker 1: his last year? I don't know sure, but you feel

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Speaker 1: good about Rico Gathers and Blake Jarwin. We don't know

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Speaker 1: they like Blake. Yeah, that was one of the man

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Speaker 1: because I start, I brought up the same question you

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Speaker 1: did about what about a tight end? And the guy

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Speaker 1: told him he don't sleep on Blake Jarwin. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and again that's them, that's them. I mean, he's the

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Speaker 1: one guy that they did not want to lose. You know,

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Speaker 1: they really didn't have a roster spot for him, and

645
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Speaker 1: they created one because they didn't want to lose him.

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Speaker 1: So he Philly wanted him off there, off the practice squad.

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Speaker 1: Right yeah, right, I'm just gonna I'm gonna throw a

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Speaker 1: big whatever at this. No, I really am. If you

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Speaker 1: want to draft the guy on Saturday because you need

650
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Speaker 1: the depth, that's fine, or sign another priority free agent.

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Speaker 1: Which is what Blake Jarwin was. Go for it. You're

652
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Speaker 1: not interested in seeing round tight end? Hired of watching

653
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Speaker 1: the promising tight ends wither away on the vine behind

654
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Speaker 1: Jason Witten. And that's not a shot at Jason Witten.

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Speaker 1: He he deserves, as far as I'm concerned, he deserves

656
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Speaker 1: to play until he doesn't want to play anymore. But

657
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Speaker 1: and but I'm just not going to worry about that

658
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Speaker 1: position until he's not here, right, what's the point he

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Speaker 1: doesn't come off the field, So no, he does. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he did play like ninety seven seven point

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Speaker 1: three percent of the snaps. Whatever. No, I'm not spending

662
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Speaker 1: a premium pick on that go away. You're saying, draft

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Speaker 1: a guy when it's time. Yeah, when it's absolutely time. Yes,

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Speaker 1: she's like I and Thomas from Indiana. Sure. Third round

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Speaker 1: No too high, too high for a tight end or

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Speaker 1: for that guy for a tight end period. I'm starting

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. I'm starting on Saturday. I mean, and I

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Speaker 1: don't nobody, y'all don't have to agree with me. That's

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Speaker 1: guard round, Mickey, that's a round. Third round Yeah, yeah, uh,

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Speaker 1: top one hundred picks are supposed to start. We say

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Speaker 1: that all the time we say it. It's like one

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Speaker 1: of my it's one of my core beliefs. In the draft,

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Speaker 1: top one hundred picks should push to start, and that

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Speaker 1: guy's not going to push to start. So no, all right,

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Speaker 1: So are there there's no you guys don't think there's

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Speaker 1: any tight end that's like this, like a real one,

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Speaker 1: like a real one. Yeah, not just like a receiving

678
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Speaker 1: Will Disley. Yeah, you could get him on Saturday, right,

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Speaker 1: sure you all right? Then? Sure go for it. Well,

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Speaker 1: Disley is a tight end from University of Washington. He

681
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Speaker 1: was a converted defensive end. He's got a big, slow

682
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Speaker 1: white guy who blocks. He does his job. No, I

683
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Speaker 1: need somebody to get downfield. Okay, there's there's plenty of

684
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Speaker 1: other guys you can, you can hit them, but I

685
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Speaker 1: gotta go too high to get him. Well, if you

686
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Speaker 1: want a legitimate one, if you want you don't want

687
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Speaker 1: to cut I like how. I like how Ian Thomas

688
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Speaker 1: has done a lot of different things at India and

689
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Speaker 1: y Flex what they asked their tight ends to do.

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Speaker 1: And this system is a lot, you know, and so

691
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Speaker 1: he's got some experience that way. But it might be

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Speaker 1: I'm with Dave, that's pretty early to draft it tight?

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Speaker 1: Would you take a tight end to eighty one or

694
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Speaker 1: a safety free safety free safety safety tight end? Ah? What? What?

695
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Speaker 1: Who's starting at safety for this team right now? Because

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Speaker 1: I sure as he'll know who's starting at tight end.

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Speaker 1: Mickey's gonna trade his fifty to get one. That's fine.

698
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Speaker 1: If you want to do that, that's fine, we can

699
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Speaker 1: talk about that. But right now, and hey, I say that,

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Speaker 1: I'm again I'm not taking outs at Xavier Woods and

701
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Speaker 1: Cavon Frasier either. If they step up and prove that

702
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Speaker 1: they're capable of doing the job in training camp, that's great.

703
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: But uh, your two options at free safety on this

704
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: team right now have four combined starts between them, and

705
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Speaker 1: most of those were Xavier Woods in the slot. And

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Speaker 1: how many how many snaps did his Xavier Woods play

707
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Speaker 1: last year? Three hundred and something? I think fifty one? Yeah,

708
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Speaker 1: don't a lot of that, I know, I understand. But

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Speaker 1: they look at him as a guy that's going to

710
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Speaker 1: at least compete for it. That's cool. He's not proven

711
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Speaker 1: at all, Okay, and then Jason went pretty When Byron

712
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Speaker 1: Jones fails at corner, he's gonna go back to free safety.

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Speaker 1: Right there, Jesus. I mean, you know alone, what do

714
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Speaker 1: you what do you think he's going to be a starter.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. When I wrote the story yesterday

716
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Speaker 1: that they picked up his fifth year option, I called

717
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Speaker 1: him a defensive back because I don't Yeah, he could

718
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Speaker 1: go back to the savior. Who knows, you know. That's

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Speaker 1: what's interesting he is he is? He a six million

720
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Speaker 1: dollar non starter? That's whatever. No, No, I'm just asking.

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Speaker 1: I really, I don't know, honestly. I mean, I'm gonna

722
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Speaker 1: give it. I'm gonna give him a shot because his

723
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Speaker 1: size and his athleticism dictates that he could maybe be

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Speaker 1: pretty good at it. And if you watch him play

725
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Speaker 1: corner he did it on five days, notice, two thirds

726
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Speaker 1: of the way through his rookie season. I mean, come on,

727
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: that's two totally different things. No, I don't I feel

728
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Speaker 1: bad for the cow many days. Notice that Jordan Lewis

729
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Speaker 1: ever or should be Owoozia, Jordan Lewis is in Denver, Okay, Well,

730
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Speaker 1: and they lost forty two to seven. Yeah that day,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So you gotta give him a shot.

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Speaker 1: He's got a new position coach, so if if if

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Speaker 1: he's a cornerback. Do you do you qualify it as

734
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Speaker 1: he's the guy that goes in the slot or he's

735
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Speaker 1: the guy that takes the tight end. Is that a cornerback?

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Speaker 1: I think that he's starting See that's what That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm question that I'm making this move. If I'm making

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Speaker 1: this move, I was thinking as a starter. I don't

739
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Speaker 1: know if I could, I know, but I can't. Well,

740
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Speaker 1: you know, you know she say that if Cheeto's healthy,

741
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Speaker 1: he starts to the left, he's gonna start it right,

742
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Speaker 1: and you want to put him on the right side

743
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Speaker 1: because they don't always attack. You're right, Corners can't always

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00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: get attack. Ideally, my starting three would be Byron Cheeto

745
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Speaker 1: with Jordan in the slot, assuming Byron's good enough to

746
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Speaker 1: do the job, and if he's not, then you could

747
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Speaker 1: put Jordan outside or Anthony Brown, which everyone's better, and

748
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Speaker 1: then let Byron do his tight end thing. And no,

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Speaker 1: that's you would prefer not to pay a guy six

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Speaker 1: million dollars to do that job, but it is what

751
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: it is, and you don't have to pay him six

752
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: year six million until next year anyway. By the way,

753
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: he's still only costing you one point. Yeah, whatever, is yeah.

754
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: So it's we jumped like ten positions, but that's okay.

755
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Speaker 1: I would much round just took care of two of them.

756
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Speaker 1: We didn't much rather have a guy compete to start

757
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: at safety than a guy who's gonna play three percent

758
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: of the snaps behind Jay. You think he's oh okay,

759
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: I see, no okay. I thought you're a saying Byron Jones.

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Speaker 1: Tight end is a waste of a pick until proven otherwise.

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Speaker 1: That's sorry. The only reason it was wasted before is

762
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Speaker 1: Escobar wasn't what they thought, Martellis Bennett was a flake,

763
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Speaker 1: and Fozzano was not the type of tight end they

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Speaker 1: wanted in this offense. They drafted Fozzano for Parcel's offense

765
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Speaker 1: to be this big, hulking, blocking tight end you can

766
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Speaker 1: couldn't get down the field. You can throw whatever reason

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Speaker 1: you want at me. All I know is that there's

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Speaker 1: no reason to believe Jason Witten's going to play less

769
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Speaker 1: than ninety five percent of snaps until he retires. I'm

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Speaker 1: with you on that one. There is no evidence to

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Speaker 1: the contrary whatsoever, So spare me the tight end in

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Speaker 1: the first three rounds. That's fair, Dave. That's how I

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Speaker 1: feel all right, let's take our final break. We come back.

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Speaker 1: We took care of a couple of defensive positions. We'll

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mickey, Welcome back to Talking Cowboys. One segment

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Speaker 1: Before we get back to that, you wanted to plug

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Speaker 1: both of you guys. Have Binge watched All or Nothing? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. I was like, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: have enough episodes in a mirror training camp with Hard Knocks,

842
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: they had to invent stuff, right, They didn't have to

843
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: invent anything here. Now, I could not have written a

844
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: script for a soap opera for eight series to cover

845
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: what was covered in this thing between Jerry, the Commissioner, Zeke, suspension,

846
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: the National Anthem deal. It was one thing after another

847
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: after another, and it was access that I would imagine

848
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: when this coaching staff looks at it, they're going to

849
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: cringe because they're stuff in there that I'm sure then

850
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: they're not for it. It comes That's what makes this

851
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: so good. It comes out April twenty seventh, right Friday

852
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: Friday to the public. We got we got we got

853
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: a free preview of it, so we got we got

854
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: to check it out. And I think the biggest thing

855
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: we talked about the office was fans are going to

856
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: see a different side of Jason Garrett, the side that

857
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: we've seen you a little bit, you know, but they

858
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: don't see in press conference's sideline whatever, which and it's

859
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: very interesting, I mean, and that's a talking point that

860
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: goes around now because of that. I mean, I'm not

861
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: here to tell you that Jason Garrett's a better coach

862
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: because you see him use vulgarritys on this show. Like

863
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you got your own opinions about him,

864
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: and that's fine. I think everybody's got an opinion about

865
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: him at this point. I'm not saying it's got nothing

866
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: to do with his coaching ability. It's just that we

867
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: don't get to see this side of him. He's very

868
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: determined to not show us that side of him. So

869
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: it's just it's just interesting to see what the players see,

870
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it'll dismiss the softy label. Yeah,

871
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: I would see some of this, and that's what the

872
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: perception of him. Criticism has always been as its coaching

873
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: is always too nice. He's you know, the perception he

874
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: gives you in a ten fifteen minute press conference is

875
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: not it. It's like behind the scenes. And they had

876
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: cameras all over the place. By the way, Yeah all right,

877
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: cool check it out Friday one one. So how are

878
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: they gonna do it one episode at a time or

879
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: you can watch them all just to just go watch

880
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: it your own leisure. Yeah, like I did, staying up

881
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: to one o'clock in the morning because they needed to

882
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,479
Speaker 1: watch the next episode. Did that was breaking bad, Mickey,

883
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: don't worry about It's okay. Bryan's betting offseason, just hammering

884
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: that one happens. Yeah, yeah, that's what we do. I

885
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: went on the road like four in the morning. I'm

886
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: watching every day. It was great, exhausting. It brings you

887
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: along for the ride, you know, you get invested. I

888
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: missed those times. Yeah, those were great. All right, let's

889
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: wrap up our position by position breakdown and what the

890
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: cowboy's gonna We're gonna have to haul ass left right, Yeah,

891
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: we took care of safety and corner. Let's let's do well.

892
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's true. Yeah, oh, offensive line. Let's let's

893
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: scroope all the offensive line together. Okay, tackle, guards, center?

894
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: Where are they staying after signing a couple of veteran

895
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: guys flemming In, Marcus Martin. It's the biggest unknown in

896
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: this draft in my opinion, because we don't know for

897
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: sure what they're gonna do with Lyle Collins. We've all

898
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: got our opinions about it, right, But I think they

899
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: want to move him. You think they want to move him.

900
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: I hope that they don't want to move him. But really,

901
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's really saying anything other than Lyle saying

902
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to move a chance. Asked today at

903
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: one o'clock, here's the point. Good point. I'm with Brian

904
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: because they still talk about best five. If you're talking

905
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: best five, Lyle Collins is a starter and one of

906
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: the guys they signed him started in the Super Bowl

907
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: and he's primarily a tackle. But why why was it

908
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: he starting before that? I don't care if yeah, I

909
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: don't care that he started in the Super Bowl. He's

910
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: got twenty career starts over seven years, which is like

911
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: Lyle has almost that many in one I'm just saying

912
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't dismiss the possibility just because Lyle has said

913
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm playing. I'm looking at playing tackle. That's what I'm

914
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: focused on right now. I wouldn't dismiss him moving. All

915
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: I know is Steven said I could see I could

916
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: very easily see us picking an offensive lineman in the

917
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: top four rounds, if not another in the later rounds.

918
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: We don't need to have the debate about what they

919
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: should do with Lyle. We've had it on other shows.

920
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: We can have it all throughout the summer. The point is,

921
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: if they want to move Lyle, then they need to

922
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,479
Speaker 1: draft a tackle. And if they don't want to move Lyle,

923
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: then they need to draft a guard because if you

924
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: move them and Cameron Fleming's playing right tackle, need to

925
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: swimos your swing tackle exactly or drafting a flex dude,

926
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: well play both. Find a guy that can challenge for

927
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: the starting spot at guard. Last year proved that you

928
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: need a quality third tackle because of Tyrant Smith and

929
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: you also, I mean you need you need a good

930
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: guard to finish out that line one or the other.

931
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: So if you move Lyle, yeah, you need a guy

932
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: that can either push Fleming or be a great swing

933
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: tackle or you need a starting guard, And honestly, we

934
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: can ask that question. I bet you they won't give

935
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: us a good answer, and so you're just gonna go

936
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: into the draft and say, Okay, whatever they do here

937
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: is going to probably clinch at nineteen. Well, if they

938
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: take mc clinchy at nineteen, if they Mike McGlinchey at nineteen,

939
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: it's pretty good bet they're going to try to move lyle.

940
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: And if they wait until the third round and draft

941
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: your guy from Washington, stay Madison, maybe they don't want

942
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: to move on. I'm like, really, I don't know that

943
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: you're going to get a clearer answer than that. You're

944
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: just gonna have to wait and see what they decided.

945
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: And I get a tackle, they can play guard, That's

946
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: what I said. Sure, maybe a flex dude, Yeah, and

947
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: let him compete for the starting guard job. Yeah, like

948
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: you did with Yas knew, you're gonna bring that. Brian

949
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: likes this, mor did Adams. No. I'm just saying though,

950
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: like he did with Larry Allen. Yeah, but I think

951
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: it's a different page, should be different. I think it's

952
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: a different era. Give them from you a guy who

953
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: can do all right anyway, But it's that it's the

954
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: biggest wildcard in this draft because they have needs on

955
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: the offensive line. We don't know where. I'm curious why

956
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: they brought in two tackles that people think are first

957
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: round tackles. Yeah, I'm curious by that. Okay, I'm curious

958
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: why they brought in McGlinchey. And there's I do not

959
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: like Colton Millard at all. Then there's people that do,

960
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: and they brought then they brought him in for a visit.

961
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: And so to me and the guarding they brought in

962
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: or day three type guy. Yeah, so to me, this

963
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 1: is where we thought they did bring in James Daniels.

964
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I keep cutting it. He's a center. He

965
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: could play guard, right, Yeah, that's what we're dismissing Martin.

966
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: He can't play guard. Brian likes him, right, I like Martin.

967
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: I have no problem Marcus Martin. Marcus Martin, I have

968
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: no problem with him. I have no problem with him

969
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: playing it. He kind of he kind of reminded you

970
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: of Leary watching a film. Yeah, when Larry, when he

971
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: was first came here, he was like a big, boxy,

972
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: square guy. This is with fat Leary, not slim Larry not. Yeah,

973
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: the slim Leary is like, yeah, he redid himself, but

974
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: this guy's got some power to him. You'll find me

975
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: a guard that can compete with him and then leave

976
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: Leal there and Flumming is my swing backup because I

977
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: guarantee you they only paid him what two point three

978
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: million against the cap. And I'll guarantee you if you

979
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: said last year I needed to spend two point three

980
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: million on a swing tackle to save my season, they'd

981
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: have done it. They would have done it. Yeah, it's

982
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: not often, but I agree with everything, Mick. I just

983
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: don't know that that's what they're gonna do. All right, center, Look,

984
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick doesn't miss games. You got Joe Looney resigned

985
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: to probably back up that position. Sure, all right, let's

986
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: move to D line. Let's just lump edge rush or

987
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: defensive tackle in together. How big of a need is

988
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: it on this team? Kinda kind of got to scare

989
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: about how big defensive tackle was yesterday? Huh, yeah, we

990
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: can cover that real quick. Reports yesterday broke a bizarre story. Really,

991
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: woman claiming to be David Irving's girlfriend apparently got a

992
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: hold of his Twitter account. Those are the reports made

993
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: accusations of domestic violence. Irving claimed he was hacked, denied

994
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: those allegations, and then the woman came back on social

995
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: media later in the day and retracted everything she said

996
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: and said those were false allegations that she made and

997
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: not the first time she's doing that, right, So that's

998
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: where that stands right now. I think they needed a

999
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: defensive tackle regardless, regardless us. Yeah, because if you look

1000
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: at his situation with the contract and then not that

1001
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: he's not that he's facing any potential disco. I'm just

1002
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: saying that this uh, you know, he has resigned for

1003
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: one more year, so he's got I'm saying, you're that

1004
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: one year and then you're looking at you're looking too

1005
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: at MALIEK. Collins coming off a foot injury. You know

1006
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: who's behind him, Brian Price, Richard Ash let me continue,

1007
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: Daniel Ross, Lewis, Nils Neil. Yeah. So basically, you got

1008
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: Irving and you got MALIEK. Collins, and you got one

1009
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: of those guys doesn't beat out Tyrans Tyron Crawford for

1010
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: the starting right defensive end spot right so he could

1011
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: move inside. He's playing there, yea, and Price, Neil as

1012
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: Ross and Ash. Yeah, seriously. Yeah, that's great. This was

1013
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: to me. You know, we talk about linebacker. Look at

1014
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: the linebackers to the defense doesn't have the depth. It's

1015
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: like the why like the offense does. The defense is

1016
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: lacking defensive line hyman. As far as inside players, the linebackers.

1017
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: Look at that group. The first set of group is

1018
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: a is a good group behind that? No, which Lee

1019
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: Collins offseason surgery right foot, Yeah, foot surgery. Now he

1020
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: should be ready to go, sure, but it's something to

1021
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: keep an eye on. He dealt with it last year

1022
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: as well, so you think it's rookie year too when

1023
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: you're thinking about depth, something to think about. But he

1024
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: played through it, which you know and me personally. They

1025
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: brought him in on a visit too. But the guy

1026
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: that I think about the least among the names that

1027
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: we hear at nineteen is Vita Vea. Yeah, but I

1028
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: think they'd take him if he was there. I going

1029
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: back to the tight end thing. I got to see

1030
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: it to believe it, and that's you know, it's not

1031
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: that I don't think he's a good player. It's not

1032
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: that I don't think he could help, but I just

1033
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't believe that they would draft d tackle nineteen.

1034
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: But he's not. He's not your true run plugging nose though, right,

1035
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: he's got more y. Yeah, but they also they brought

1036
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: into Ron Payne from Alabama. If you watch him in

1037
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: the playoff game, in the championship game, you draft him instantly.

1038
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: Tevin Ryan is a guy Marion Ellie went down there

1039
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: and worked him out. So these three guys can play

1040
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: no both. Brian's yeah, pain could play both. Brian's a three,

1041
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: it's what he is, and they is a one with

1042
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: some three traits to it, right, which I think that

1043
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: makes a difference if you're talking about guys that can

1044
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: play a three. Then didn't pick in a one? Tick Well,

1045
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: Steven said it, and Steven set everybody off on a

1046
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: tizzy at the combine because he said, you know, they

1047
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: wouldn't draft a pure nose in the first round, but

1048
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: any d tackle that's getting drafted in the first round

1049
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: can probably do a little bit of both. So that's

1050
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: almost a non story. I think we agree they need one.

1051
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: They do, they absolutely do. I just I don't believe

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00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: that they'll draft one in the first round. I go, okay,

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00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: give me a second round guy, did you get painting

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00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: the second round, so that I don't think you could

1055
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: get pain in the second round myself. That'sn't too much. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're really hoping. That's where we've we've well,

1057
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: we've talked, well, pain could be. It possibly that that

1058
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: could be. But I think it's a little bit of

1059
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: stretch we talked about and not Yea from South Florida

1060
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: is a guy we like. Uh, Phillips from Stanford is

1061
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: a guy we've talked about. Shepherd from Fort Hayes State.

1062
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: Now there's a guy, but he I think he's more

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00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 1: of a three, but he's kind of he's three hundred

1064
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: and fifteen pounds. I mean, if if it's not, I

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00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: don't care what he plays. I just don't think Malak

1066
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: Collins can hold up at the nose. There's more, no,

1067
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: there's more nose in this draft than there are threes

1068
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: because mclee Collins is better at the three than he

1069
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: was at the nose. But then he did play through

1070
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 1: the foot injury. Irving played some three last year. Tyrone

1071
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: Crawford has played some three. But yeah, well he's also

1072
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: played in for you and played it pretty well. I

1073
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: think I think, I think, I think Irvings inside, Irvings inside.

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00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: We gotta get We gotta get Joe Looney's little brother

1075
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: in here. That's what we gotta do. James Looney d

1076
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: tackle out of cow. Okay, let's make it happen my

1077
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 1: draft board. Yeah, it's it's it's a sneaky need. And uh,

1078
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, I don't even feel comfortable commenting on David

1079
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: Irving story non story thing, but I mean it was

1080
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: something they were thinking about. But no, we had we

1081
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: had the impression before he was even offered as tender

1082
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: that he probably didn't have a super secure long term

1083
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: future here. You know. I mean he's on a one

1084
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: year deal. He's betting he's spent in those creeks. Second,

1085
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: I mean, those those kids don't move. It's a need.

1086
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: There's there's no way around it. It's a need. I

1087
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: just I gotta and I would I would be very

1088
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: happy with Vita Vea as the first round pick. I

1089
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: just gotta see it to believe it better. Inder is

1090
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: much better Evans or Vanders Evans. Here we go. My

1091
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: last spot we cut. We covered corner and safety, linebacker.

1092
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: A lot of us have mocked out at nineteen that

1093
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: when it comes, Yeah, when it comes to pure numbers

1094
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: on this roster right now, even though you signed Joe

1095
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: Thomas to be kind of a depth guy for you, linebacker,

1096
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: to me, to me, to me, from a number standpoint,

1097
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: that's a bigger need than wide receiver. There's six linebackers.

1098
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: How many of them do you trust to start for you? Yeah,

1099
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: you've got three guys that can start. Who's the third one,

1100
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: Thomas or Damian Damien? Yeah, I mean at strong side.

1101
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 1: How many times you play a strong side linebacker? Yeah? Exactly.

1102
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 1: But the key thing is now they think he's coming along.

1103
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: Everybody I've talked to, Jalen Smith is running well, he's

1104
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 1: cutting Sun, but I don't have anybody behind him. Yeah, nope. See,

1105
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: that's why I think they're interested in Vanderish and I

1106
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: don't have any behind anything behind Sean Leepeah. And that's

1107
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: why they're interested in in Evans because they think that

1108
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: Evans could be a Mike Will where vandersh can play

1109
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: all three. He could be Mike Feeling, Sam and Will.

1110
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: It's a bitter pill for a lot of Cowboys fans

1111
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: to swallow, But you're just drafting this guy as an

1112
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: insurance policy. If that's what you do. And I know,

1113
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: like that's not what you want for your first round pick,

1114
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: but we saw what happened to this defense when Sean

1115
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: Lee couldn't play and you don't have Anthony Hitchens there

1116
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: to be your security blanket. I hope to hell that

1117
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith is the best linebacker in the league this year.

1118
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: Like I want the best for that guy, but you

1119
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: can't count on that. That's the wildcard. Where is he

1120
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: playing and how many snaps is he playing? Well, if

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00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: you can't count on him being a one hundred percent

1122
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: snaps guy. So if vander esh is that versatile, I

1123
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: could see Jalen playing first second down and that guy's

1124
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: on the nickel with Shaun Lee and that's a pretty

1125
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: big role. No, no no, no, no, absolutely, I'm just they

1126
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: start him at sam and then when they go to nickel,

1127
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: they moved, they to them inside and they take and

1128
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: they put and they put Smith down rush. A linebacker

1129
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 1: you draft at nineteen would play thirty to sixty percent

1130
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: of the snaps ideally, which I think is good. But

1131
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: people want a one hundred percent guy. They want a

1132
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna play. That's why people are saying, you know, well,

1133
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: draft a guard who's gonna be there every snap of

1134
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 1: the season instead. But I just think this team is

1135
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: a lot more screwed without a linebacker insurance policy than

1136
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: it is without it. They can't go to a game

1137
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: with the linebackers they currently behind them, I don't think so.

1138
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 1: Basically four games last year Hitchins missed four or four

1139
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: came back for the Packer game, right, which oh yea right,

1140
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, and they miss some time together. So yeah.

1141
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you could say you're drafting just insurance, but

1142
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: it's a high impact position. Guys get hurt at linebacker.

1143
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: It's an important if you want a position. They might

1144
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: double dip on linebacker. I think they should. They might

1145
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: take they got those two fourth round picks. I mean,

1146
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. They might take the first, the

1147
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: first pick at nineteen, and then one of those other picks.

1148
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: The you know, Hitchens wasn't a bad fourth round pick.

1149
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, Joe Thomas, Shaun Lee, Justin March, Lillard,

1150
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, Damien Wilson, tray Von Tyon Johnson. Yeah. I

1151
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: just I mean, hey, and we I think we've done

1152
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: as good a job as we could possibly hope too.

1153
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: Of listing out all the possibilities, they could go in

1154
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: a number of different directions. I definitely don't think anything's

1155
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: a lock. But if I had to put my money

1156
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: on what I think the first round pick will be, um,

1157
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: it's I've been saying linebacker for a month, to keep

1158
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: saying I don't disagree with him. And the two guys

1159
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: that you think will be there, Layton vander Esh and

1160
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: Rashaun Evans. They'll have to make a decision there, and

1161
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: again I think they'll make the decision because of vander Esh,

1162
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: because of the three spots. No chance of those other

1163
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: guys that are expected to go early falling. I mean anything.

1164
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean Quan Smith and Edmunds people, there's a background.

1165
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: Anything's possible, I guess, but I wouldn't better. But they're

1166
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: in they're in that mix of the Nelson you know

1167
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: that every everybody who's a non quarterback that's a high

1168
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: position player, they're in that mix. That's what they're at,

1169
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: all right, All right, I think we're in agreement there.

1170
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: Linebacker probably the biggest need watch and it won't be

1171
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: a linebacker on Thursday. That's just how those things go.

1172
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Speaker 1: That's but It's okay, let's talk about it. Strange lady, right,

1173
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: Brian Strange label draft. We'll find out what happens Thursday night,

1174
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Speaker 1: Friday night, Saturday. Should be fun. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: is a press conference today involving I believe the Jones.

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Speaker 1: Jones is uh scary. Should be there so we'll get

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Speaker 1: an idea, maybe, of what they might be thinking draft

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