WEBVTT - Lexi’s Back for Love!

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, welcome back to bad You're Happy Hour. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Joe and I'm Serena, And like we said, we are

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<v Speaker 1>doing interviews this week and we have Lexi coming on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. She's a pretty big person in episode one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like definitely a fan favorite on Joey's

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<v Speaker 2>season of The Bachelor, we were lucky enough to have

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<v Speaker 2>her on during that season to learn more about her,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was a big part of episode one as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we see her kind of getting close with Justin,

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<v Speaker 2>who is a fan favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>He was on Paradise before.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a little bit of drama starting there with

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<v Speaker 2>the potential of Susie joining the cast as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and her first day gets canceled. Was Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>like canceled?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, guys, it's raining. We can't proceed.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted them. I was like, at least like

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<v Speaker 1>let him go hang out in the room, or we

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<v Speaker 1>can't set up.

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<v Speaker 3>An indoor dinner, Like we don't have a rain plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like the lobbies are like a lobby with a

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<v Speaker 1>fireplace where they could have like a glass of wine,

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<v Speaker 1>like get to know each other a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>That was that was shocking, But we can't wait to

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<v Speaker 2>get her take on justin, her date and everything to

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<v Speaker 2>do with episode one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's bring her in. LEXI. Welcome back to Battery

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Hour. How are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you happy to be back. I'm doing well. How

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<v Speaker 4>are you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>We're good, We're good. Before we get into episode one,

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<v Speaker 1>a little background. You are from Joey's season. Man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a while, Joey has been a while. You were

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<v Speaker 1>on Joey's season. Where are you now? Where do you live?

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<v Speaker 1>What's kind of been going on pre paradise.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I was on Joey's season and I came

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<v Speaker 5>back to Atlanta, which is where I'm still currently living.

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<v Speaker 5>And I came back to my corporate job. So nothing

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<v Speaker 5>too crazy in terms of changes, but I did start

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<v Speaker 5>a business which has been really exciting, and so I

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<v Speaker 5>just quit my corporate job recently and I'm doing the business.

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<v Speaker 4>Full time now.

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<v Speaker 5>So I've been traveling a lot, and yeah, it's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of been awind. I can't believe it's been as long

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<v Speaker 5>as it has since the season. It's time is crazy

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<v Speaker 5>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the business?

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<v Speaker 5>The dating business? So it's called in the Wild and

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<v Speaker 5>it's in person dating. So we do matchmaking in person

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<v Speaker 5>dating events FED dating, and yeah, it's been fun. We've there's,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, three couples that are engaged and we have

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<v Speaker 5>over one hundred couples that are dating and it's only

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<v Speaker 5>been a year, so it's definitely working. But it was

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<v Speaker 5>fun to kind of get to play matchmaker on the

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<v Speaker 5>beach just since I've been doing that for the last year.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So what are some things that you look for when

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to set people up?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you try to look at the person as

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<v Speaker 4>a whole.

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<v Speaker 5>I think so much is like list driven these days,

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<v Speaker 5>like I want them to be this height, that they

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<v Speaker 5>want them to look like this, I want them to

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<v Speaker 5>have this type of job. But I think if you

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<v Speaker 5>strip some of that away, what I'm finding through all

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<v Speaker 5>of this is like in person people meet individuals and

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<v Speaker 5>they're actually very surprised, like from a personality connection, like

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<v Speaker 5>they wouldn't have matched with them on a dating app.

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<v Speaker 5>But once they get talking to them in a room

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, don't have like a checklist in front

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<v Speaker 5>of them of like their height occupy all of that,

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<v Speaker 5>they are more open minded to meeting different people. And

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<v Speaker 5>so I've definitely been trying to lean into that as well,

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<v Speaker 5>as you know, I was dating before the.

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<v Speaker 4>Show, seeing someone as the whole and not just a list.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where could people find your website, your services? I

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<v Speaker 2>want to take advantage. And is it across the US?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it just Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 5>We're about to kick off a tour and so we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to be going to major cities across the US

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<v Speaker 5>and basically bringing this pop up activation there. You guys

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<v Speaker 5>can find us on Instagram, in the wild dating and TikTok,

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<v Speaker 5>and then our website as well, which is linked in

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<v Speaker 5>all of those social platforms. But yeah, we're excited to

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<v Speaker 5>bring it to other cities like Charleston, Nashville, LA.

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<v Speaker 4>So it should be fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. That is so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you dated since Joey's season?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I dated someone briefly after Joey's season, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a good guy, but just kind of not on the

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<v Speaker 5>same page that I was on. And I think I

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<v Speaker 5>talked about that a lot on Joey's season what I'm

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<v Speaker 5>looking for, and so it's good experience. But I kind of,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, dated him right after the show, and then

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<v Speaker 5>I jumped right into building this business.

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<v Speaker 4>And so when Paradise came along.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a lot of mixed feelings about it, but

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<v Speaker 5>I hadn't dated in a little bit, and so it was, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we'll talk about that more, I'm sure, but it was

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<v Speaker 5>definitely a different as a stretch for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was thinking about you the other day because

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<v Speaker 2>I knew we were probably going to have you on

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast, and one of my girlfriends called me and

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<v Speaker 2>is getting the surgery done to see if she has endometriosis.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you doing with all of that?

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<v Speaker 5>It's been, you know, transparently, it's every day it has

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<v Speaker 5>its own challenges. I'm coming up on having another surgery

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<v Speaker 5>at the end of the summer, and so before that,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll have to freeze my eggs one more time. I

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<v Speaker 5>froze them right before I went on Joey's season, and so,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I know, is a systemic disease with no cure,

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<v Speaker 5>and so unfortunately, you know it ebbs and flows definitely

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<v Speaker 5>have worse weeks than others. But luckily I have an

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<v Speaker 5>amazing team of doctors and hopefully eventually, you know, a

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<v Speaker 5>supportive partner and my eggs are frozen and we can

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<v Speaker 5>you know, come up with a plan that's best for

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<v Speaker 5>our family, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thank you for asking.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's just a part of me at this point,

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<v Speaker 5>not going anywhere, but I'm trying my best to stay positive.

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<v Speaker 2>Did it impact your experience filming Paradise in any way?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it was the second day and time

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<v Speaker 5>there is obviously, you know, everything feels like you're living

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<v Speaker 5>ten days in one and on the second day I

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<v Speaker 5>had a really bad flare, and so I just like,

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<v Speaker 5>for some reason, on Joey's season it was a little

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<v Speaker 5>like easier because I could wear like, you know, a

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<v Speaker 5>flowy dress, but we were on the beach and bikinis,

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<v Speaker 5>so you know, I was like kind of dying inside

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<v Speaker 5>because I mean, obviously all the girls are in such

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<v Speaker 5>good shape and then I'm over here like I looked

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<v Speaker 5>like eight months pregnant. Obviously out of my control. It

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<v Speaker 5>was an endo flare. Great doctors on the show. I've

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<v Speaker 5>always had such a good experience. They take such good

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<v Speaker 5>care of me. But it did feel in a bathing suit.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, this is worst case scenario, but out

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<v Speaker 5>of my control.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, that totally makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So you get the call for Paradise, where's your head at?

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<v Speaker 1>You an instant Yes, we're what are you thinking?

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I was an instant no at first.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think a lot of people when they found out,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, when they dropped the cast, were surprised, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I was surprised too. I think when

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<v Speaker 5>I first heard about it, or you know, got that

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<v Speaker 5>invitation from from production, it was I don't know if

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<v Speaker 5>it's the best fit for me, just because of, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>exactly the reason why I left Joey's season. What I'm

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<v Speaker 5>looking for, Like, are these guys truly ready for that?

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<v Speaker 5>And then you don't know who the guys are ahead

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<v Speaker 5>of time, and so I wasn't sure there would be

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<v Speaker 5>someone there that was, you know, maybe a little older

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<v Speaker 5>and more ready for that next step.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, who knows.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure a lot of the guys, depending on their age,

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<v Speaker 5>could be ready for different things. But and I also

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<v Speaker 5>am just not an aggressive personality, and so I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even know if I'll do well there, because

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<v Speaker 5>if someone's fighting over a guy, I would just be like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you can have them, like I just I

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't even It would just give me anxiety. So at

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<v Speaker 5>first I was like, I don't think it's for me.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's kind of where we started.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you watch Bachelor and Paradise going into this?

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<v Speaker 4>I have not seen it in so long.

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<v Speaker 5>I have not seen it since like Hannah and Dylan's

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<v Speaker 5>like season, and so I know Paradise, but I had

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<v Speaker 5>not watched it in a year, so I felt like

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<v Speaker 5>I was a little behind. But then they kept saying

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<v Speaker 5>this season was going to be so different and so

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<v Speaker 5>id they were like kind of scrap everything you know

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<v Speaker 5>about it before, and so that.

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<v Speaker 4>Made me feel a little better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so what were your initial thoughts when you got

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<v Speaker 1>there and everything was very different.

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<v Speaker 5>They kept saying there's going to be these challenges, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was so nervous we were going to be on

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<v Speaker 5>like wipeout or something. I was like, I am not

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<v Speaker 5>like prepared for survivor like wrong, wrong contestant.

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<v Speaker 4>But once I got.

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<v Speaker 5>There, I mean, it was such a It's such a

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<v Speaker 5>beautiful resort, like truly really, you know, they upgraded, they

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<v Speaker 5>have air conditioning, which I'm sure you guys probably are.

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<v Speaker 4>Jealous that you didn't have air conditioning.

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<v Speaker 5>I heard from like Kat who had done Paradise before

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<v Speaker 5>that this was infinitely nicer. And so I'm in the

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<v Speaker 5>beach is the beach, but I was grateful to have

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<v Speaker 5>air conditioning and the goldens. You know, knowing they were

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<v Speaker 5>coming was fun and having handed there was like a

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<v Speaker 5>really nice mix up. So it was positive like energy

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<v Speaker 5>walking into it. For sure, it felt very fresh.

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<v Speaker 2>When you guys got to Costa Rica, did you I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of breaking the fourth wall with this question,

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<v Speaker 2>but like you obviously stay in a room for a

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<v Speaker 2>few days before they send you down. Did you stay

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<v Speaker 2>at that hotel or did you stay somewhere else and

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<v Speaker 2>they brought you onto set?

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<v Speaker 5>Say, somewhere else and they brought us onto set. The

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<v Speaker 5>other hotel was it was very close. I mean it

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<v Speaker 5>was a less than a ten minute drive, but you

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<v Speaker 5>are in isolation until you get called down to the beach.

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<v Speaker 5>And when you do get called down, you don't know

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<v Speaker 5>if people have been there for you know, days, one

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<v Speaker 5>day hours.

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<v Speaker 4>So same as I.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess before, were you at all worried that you may

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<v Speaker 1>not be original cast, that they could drop you?

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<v Speaker 5>I did, yeah, and I expressed those concerns to production,

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<v Speaker 5>And it was mostly I wasn't trying to be like

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<v Speaker 5>I want to be there first. It was really because

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<v Speaker 5>of one my personality being a little bit more like mellow.

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<v Speaker 4>I was nervous.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not I'm not the bombshell, like, don't bring me

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<v Speaker 5>in later, it will I just would. I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>I would do well on that, and so they kind

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<v Speaker 5>of reassured me that I would. They're early on to

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<v Speaker 5>be able to establish a connection, so I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe one first day, second day, but I've heard in

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<v Speaker 5>the past they bring in people so much later, so

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<v Speaker 5>you never know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's totally fair.

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<v Speaker 2>I think anyone going on the show that's like really

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<v Speaker 2>serious about finding a genuine connection, the earlier the better.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's no.

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<v Speaker 2>Secret, totally Okay, So you get down there, you were

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<v Speaker 2>kind of down there earlier in the day for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Early.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your original thoughts, what are those first conversations?

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<v Speaker 5>Like, Yeah, it was so hot, that was my first thought.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, how does everyone look good on this show?

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<v Speaker 5>Like I just could not stop thinking about this wedding.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was you know, we walked in. There's two

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<v Speaker 5>other people there, Spencer and Alex. Spencer from Gen season,

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<v Speaker 5>Alex from Grant season. I had known Spencer like just

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<v Speaker 5>through you know, social media before this, and he's such

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<v Speaker 5>just a great guy, and Alex was so vibrant, like

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<v Speaker 5>very energetic, so it was really good energy when we

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<v Speaker 5>walked in. But I think it was we were all

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<v Speaker 5>just waiting to see who was coming down next, So it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was kind of just like a waiting game.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think at that point, like Wells wasn't there,

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<v Speaker 5>Hannah definitely wasn't there, so we were all just kind

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<v Speaker 5>of like scoping it out. We didn't know if the

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<v Speaker 5>Goldens were coming that day, like, we didn't know anything.

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<v Speaker 2>So going down, obviously we see you kind of form

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<v Speaker 2>a connection with Justin, But who were kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>guys that you were looking to talk to are interested in?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I didn't have a specific name, but I

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<v Speaker 5>definitely wanted someone who was a little bit older and

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<v Speaker 5>maybe someone that I hadn't met before. And there was

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<v Speaker 5>a guy down there at Kyle, and I was really

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<v Speaker 5>excited because I didn't know who he was. I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>know what season he came from, so it was just

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<v Speaker 5>like very intriguing to get to know him better. But

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<v Speaker 5>otherwise I think I knew all of the guys at

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<v Speaker 5>least from social media besides Kyle.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, that's interesting. We asked just that too.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just trying to get a vibe on like how

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<v Speaker 2>well everyone knew each other going in, because I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it's different every season.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally, which I think was good this season that it

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<v Speaker 1>was more like we kind of know of each other,

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<v Speaker 1>but we all don't really know each other. Yeah. Always,

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<v Speaker 1>that's always better. I think one of the past few seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>it just seemed like everyone like.

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<v Speaker 3>Had met and been.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like the stage coach thing, right, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't go to stage Coach this.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, so yeah, it was probably for the best. So

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<v Speaker 2>down there the first day, all the cast is there.

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<v Speaker 2>Who are the people that you're closest with.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really close to Jess, She's from my season. She's amazing,

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that was from a girl perspective. She

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<v Speaker 5>was the only one that I knew from from my season.

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<v Speaker 5>But I really started to get close to Bailey and

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<v Speaker 5>Zoe and Alex and so so nice having them there.

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<v Speaker 5>And Jonathan I had talked to on social media a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit before, and so it felt like kind of

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<v Speaker 5>talking to a friend. So I think at first we

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<v Speaker 5>were all like kind of grouped together and then people

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<v Speaker 5>started to pair off. But it was nice to have

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<v Speaker 5>some familiar faces, so we made it a little more comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a romantic spark at all with you and Jonathan?

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<v Speaker 4>Ever, No, you know, I never got to explore it.

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<v Speaker 5>I that first day was so chaotic just with you know,

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<v Speaker 5>getting to know everyone, and then I got that one

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<v Speaker 5>on one on the first day, and then it got

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<v Speaker 5>rained out and so they swiftly bring you to your

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<v Speaker 5>room and you got to get ready and hurry, hurry, hurry,

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<v Speaker 5>And so I actually ended up waiting in the room

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<v Speaker 5>for like five and a half hours because every time

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<v Speaker 5>I think, they had to wait, wait, wait, And so

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<v Speaker 5>I missed those five and a half hours. Where I

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<v Speaker 5>was in the room was when everyone else was like

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<v Speaker 5>mixing and mingling, and so Jonathan and I never really

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<v Speaker 5>had a chance to go deeper that first day, which

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<v Speaker 5>was now I'm starting to learn, like in Paradise, day

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<v Speaker 5>one is so critical, So I kind of missed that.

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<v Speaker 3>God that's such a bummer.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like that is just how it goes with

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<v Speaker 2>the rain obviously, but it probably sucks because you're like

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even hang it with Justin. I can't even

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<v Speaker 2>like get to know all these people and like them.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time day two hits and you've been chilling

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<v Speaker 2>in your room against your will. Everyone's a little more

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<v Speaker 2>coupled up totally.

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<v Speaker 5>And then the thing about day two, it was we

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<v Speaker 5>had the makeup date, so like all the whole night

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<v Speaker 5>when I'm in my room in isolation, and then day

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<v Speaker 5>two we went on our day date to make up

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<v Speaker 5>the date from the night prior that got rained out,

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<v Speaker 5>So I missed a lot of that early time.

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<v Speaker 2>You must have been like, thank god I have a

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<v Speaker 2>rose this week, because at least I know I've got

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<v Speaker 2>you know that next week to have more time.

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<v Speaker 4>Totally.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I was. I was when we found out that

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<v Speaker 5>the woman had the roses. First, I was so happy

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<v Speaker 5>for a lot of reasons. But when the timing shook

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<v Speaker 5>out with like my date being canceled and rescheduled, I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, thank god, otherwise I'd be freaking out. I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, I don't know who I get a rose from?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did you know? So justin comes to your room

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<v Speaker 1>AND's like, hey, bad news, dates canceled? Do you already

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<v Speaker 1>do you guys already know that it's going to be rescheduled? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh not?

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<v Speaker 5>At that point, I was actually the whole thing was

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<v Speaker 5>so crazy because I was in my room for so long,

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<v Speaker 5>I actually fell asleep, And so when he knocked it

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<v Speaker 5>fully in a dress, like full makeup, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, ready it again.

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<v Speaker 5>So when he knocked on the door, I thought I

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<v Speaker 5>was production or a handler, and it was him. He

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<v Speaker 5>was like, you know, we'll try to figure something out

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<v Speaker 5>for tomorrow, but we had no clue if we were

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<v Speaker 5>going to be able to make it up.

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<v Speaker 4>Just with filming and the schedule being so.

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<v Speaker 2>Tight, was any part of you like, I'm on the Bachelor,

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<v Speaker 2>why do we not have a rain plan? Like we're

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<v Speaker 2>at a hotel, Like couldn't we go to dinner? Or

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<v Speaker 2>was it just like so late by the time they

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<v Speaker 2>made the call, it was.

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<v Speaker 5>So late, you know, new season, new vibes, new cameras,

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<v Speaker 5>like it's so many elevated points with that, but also

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<v Speaker 5>comes with pain points like I think that, yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure it would be nice to have a plan, being

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<v Speaker 5>a rain plan, but I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't think anyone anticipated these storms.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean they were insane, like I've never seen anything

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<v Speaker 5>like it. So I and then the staff, the you know,

0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.520
<v Speaker 5>camera crew had been working so late. It was midnight

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<v Speaker 5>at that point. So even if I if I went

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<v Speaker 5>on the date, I'd be exhausted.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye want to know that makes sense?

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<v Speaker 5>I can.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like our first date was it raining? It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't raining, but we were both sick and it was late, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was like running out of our shuttle to

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<v Speaker 2>like go throw up before our.

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<v Speaker 1>First day and it was like late too in the

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<v Speaker 1>week we had to like wrestle.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like, yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was not sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell me about that, but it makes sense. They're

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<v Speaker 2>probably waiting being like, Okay, you know it's gonna let up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna let up. It's going to let up, and

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<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden it's midnight. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you're on a bed. How did you feel though,

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<v Speaker 2>were you really disappointed?

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<v Speaker 5>I was disappointed because I wish that we had been

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<v Speaker 5>able to wait with the rest of the cast outside

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<v Speaker 5>and not in our rooms.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like I lost a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 5>And then as a girl, like I was like I

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<v Speaker 5>got all ready, you know, it's just in especially the beach,

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<v Speaker 5>I was like I had cool hair and I had to,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, do the whole thing. And so it's such

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<v Speaker 5>first world problems. But I also wanted to spend time

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<v Speaker 5>with Justin. I was excited at that point. I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my god, the first one on one of Paradise,

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<v Speaker 5>Like how fun, you know, and especially you're in isolation

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<v Speaker 5>for so long. I was like, let's go do something

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<v Speaker 5>like I wanted to do an activity. I was like

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<v Speaker 5>ald zip line. I anyways, so it's okay. We made

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<v Speaker 5>up the date the next day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, tell us about how the date actually ended up

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<v Speaker 3>going once you had it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So he had talked to Hannah and was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, explain the situation, and she they like brainstormed

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<v Speaker 5>and created this little day date went and like sat

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<v Speaker 5>on a bench, got to talk a little bit, ate

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<v Speaker 5>some lunch, and then we swam. So I think Justin

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<v Speaker 5>was like so disappointed because he's like, this is so lame.

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<v Speaker 5>We could have done this like at the Paradise set.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was nice to have the uninterrupted time and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, being removed from the cast. But like the timeline,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, as a viewer, I don't think you realize

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<v Speaker 5>like we woke up, got ready for the date, did

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<v Speaker 5>all of our interviews, went on the date, did post

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<v Speaker 5>date interviews, and then we had maybe thirty minutes to

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<v Speaker 5>get ready for that first row ceremony, So we missed

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<v Speaker 5>an day and again the second day is so important.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so are you what are you after this date?

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<v Speaker 1>During this date, what are you feeling? Are you liking him?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your intuition telling you, like I can marry this guy?

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<v Speaker 4>Or I wasn't there yet? I think I was. So.

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<v Speaker 5>I I had talked to Susie before coming up to Paradise,

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<v Speaker 5>just because her and I are like very similar life

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<v Speaker 5>stages and so and so that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Wild that that's the person you went to for advice

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<v Speaker 2>and I ended up on a date with you.

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<v Speaker 5>Walked quite a bit and so you know, I had

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<v Speaker 5>never could have anticipated justin asking me on the date

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<v Speaker 5>he pulled myself and Alex and I think I'm open minded.

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<v Speaker 5>It's day one, Like, of course I'm going to say yes,

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<v Speaker 5>But I definitely had hesitations in my head just being

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<v Speaker 5>having that conversation with Susie and kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 5>understanding they have this history. I know she's in holding

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<v Speaker 5>at the hotel at this point, so at any point

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<v Speaker 5>she can come down like her and I flew there

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<v Speaker 5>on the same day, so I knew she was there.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you are you and Susie friends or did you

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like reach out to her for a time.

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<v Speaker 5>We just reached out and kind of we became We've

0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.359
<v Speaker 5>definitely became very good friends through this, But at this

0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.960
<v Speaker 5>point before, I think it was more kind of you

0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:41.879
<v Speaker 5>know her and I just saying, you know, how what

0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:43.960
<v Speaker 5>are we looking for in this and you know we're.

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<v Speaker 4>Both at this age and who do we think is coming?

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<v Speaker 5>Which as soon as I told Justin that we had

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<v Speaker 5>the phone call, I think his like whole demeanor change

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<v Speaker 5>because he was like, you're kidding me, Like I picked

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<v Speaker 5>the one girl here who's like, you know, friendly, has

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<v Speaker 5>talked to my ex that it was very you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a recent breakup. So I definitely hesitations, I will say,

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<v Speaker 5>is how I kind of felt about him. But I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, let's go, let's see what he's about. I

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<v Speaker 5>know he's funny and something I'm looking for in my partner,

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<v Speaker 5>and so but I had hesitations.

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<v Speaker 1>So going into the rose ceremony, are you like because

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<v Speaker 1>it's you, it shows you're like a little hesitant on

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<v Speaker 1>giving Justin your rose? Who would you have given it to?

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<v Speaker 1>If you didn't give it to Justin?

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<v Speaker 5>It I would have given it to Kyle or Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Kyle, just from what i'm the very brief

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<v Speaker 5>conversation we had, he seemed like there was potential there,

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<v Speaker 5>but I didn't get enough to be, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>really dive in more about what he's looking for in

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<v Speaker 5>his story. And then Jonathan, I just think because I,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we had this like friendship and we've talked before,

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<v Speaker 5>and I know he's a good guy, that felt like

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<v Speaker 5>maybe it would have been a safer option. He's more

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<v Speaker 5>available rights his ex isn't coming down to the beach.

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<v Speaker 5>But because I had that time with Justin and we

0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.439
<v Speaker 5>had the conversations where he reassure me so many times

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<v Speaker 5>that he is healed from this relationship with Susie, I

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<v Speaker 5>ended up giving him the rose. We had the most

0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:11.159
<v Speaker 5>time together and he really really really reassured me.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, Yeah, Dale Moss gets yeah going down there, and

0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:21.480
<v Speaker 1>he's Dale's older, he's thirty six. Were did you have

0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:23.800
<v Speaker 1>a conversation with him at all? Because it seems like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Could have been a So I think Dale's a great guy.

0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.080
<v Speaker 5>I was not expecting to see him there. That was

0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.000
<v Speaker 5>probably the biggest surprise for me from a cast perspective,

0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.760
<v Speaker 5>but he you know, I guess what. I what I've

0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.359
<v Speaker 5>gathered from talking to all these guys post show is

0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.240
<v Speaker 5>that they all just assumed Justin and I were coupled up.

0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:42.679
<v Speaker 5>And so because we had that date once Dale had

0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.960
<v Speaker 5>already Dale arrived, Dale arrived, and we had already gone

0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:47.720
<v Speaker 5>on the date, I believe I don't.

0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:48.960
<v Speaker 4>Really, Okay, I think so.

0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I think he had asked you on the date that

0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:55.360
<v Speaker 2>first day, That's what it is, and then Dale came down,

0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:56.800
<v Speaker 2>So you were kind of already locked in on that

0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:58.639
<v Speaker 2>date with Justin and they're friendly.

0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:00.879
<v Speaker 5>I think that, you know, have similar circles outside of this,

0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.760
<v Speaker 5>and they've hung out, and so I think that, you know,

0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:05.800
<v Speaker 5>Dale kind of just stayed away. And I heard that

0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.000
<v Speaker 5>from Jonathan after I heard that from Kyle. I've heard

0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.000
<v Speaker 5>that from multiple guys saying that they just kind of

0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.160
<v Speaker 5>saw I was with Justin and didn't want to get

0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:15.400
<v Speaker 5>involved because we had that date early on.

0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is wild how that happens.

0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:19.800
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that kind of happens every season, even

0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.280
<v Speaker 2>on ours, where it's like, oh, I thought you were

0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.480
<v Speaker 2>in a couple, and people get really cautious about like

0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:27.760
<v Speaker 2>stepping on toes, even if it's like, oh, we're just

0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:29.879
<v Speaker 2>getting to know each other, it's only been two days.

0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:31.199
<v Speaker 3>Like, I'm still open.

0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.439
<v Speaker 4>You know, Dale's a great guy and he is older.

0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in terms of your relationship with Justin, did you

0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:52.439
<v Speaker 2>feel worried about what the dynamic was going to be

0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.200
<v Speaker 2>when Susie likely came down.

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:57.360
<v Speaker 4>I was worried. I was so worried. It's all I talked.

0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:59.679
<v Speaker 5>If you asked Jess like she was my roommate, it's

0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:01.359
<v Speaker 5>all I talked about. To the point where I was

0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:03.560
<v Speaker 5>starting to get a little frustrated because it's just not

0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:04.439
<v Speaker 5>what I signed up for.

0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:07.560
<v Speaker 4>It's not Justin or Susie's fault. They both deserve a.

0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:09.960
<v Speaker 5>Chance to meet someone new and get a you know,

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.280
<v Speaker 5>relationship that's right for them. But I started to feel

0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:15.000
<v Speaker 5>like I was in the middle. And at this point,

0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.399
<v Speaker 5>she Susie still hasn't hasn't come to the beach, But

0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:21.000
<v Speaker 5>whenever Justin talked about her, his whole demeanor changed, where

0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:22.879
<v Speaker 5>I started to have a gut feeling that there was

0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:25.919
<v Speaker 5>still something there. Which is there? They just broke up.

0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:28.280
<v Speaker 5>They dated for a long time. It's not the craziest thing.

0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:30.840
<v Speaker 2>What was the timeframe we see in your interview you're

0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:32.879
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, I think it's only been two to

0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:33.600
<v Speaker 2>three months?

0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Was that what it had been?

0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:35.720
<v Speaker 4>I think?

0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:37.840
<v Speaker 5>So that's coming from him when I when I talked

0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.959
<v Speaker 5>to Susie after, you know, we've connected since, like it

0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:44.560
<v Speaker 5>almost seems like it was more recent they that they together. Yeah,

0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.159
<v Speaker 5>but again not sure to tell. And you know, I

0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:48.920
<v Speaker 5>just really didn't want to be involved.

0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but also crucial information for you and kind of

0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:56.080
<v Speaker 2>other people dating them on the beach. I mean, if

0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:57.959
<v Speaker 2>they say that they're ready, obviously you want to take

0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:01.720
<v Speaker 2>them at face value and trust that. But I mean

0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I can understand, and I'm sure Justin could also why

0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:06.960
<v Speaker 2>you had your hesitations totally.

0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:10.479
<v Speaker 5>But again, like when I had the rose, he stood

0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.080
<v Speaker 5>ten toes down that he was fully moved on from

0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:15.280
<v Speaker 5>this relationship and ready to meet someone new, or he

0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:15.840
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't have.

0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:16.400
<v Speaker 4>Come to the beach.

0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Why not. Maybe this is just because I am a gambler,

0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 1>but why not roll the dice and be like, you

0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:31.080
<v Speaker 1>know what, I didn't have much time with Jonathan or Kyle,

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 1>but we are only a few days in. Maybe something

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 1>will form within the next couple of days. Maybe take

0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:39.840
<v Speaker 1>a shot on one of them.

0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but then Justin would have gone home. I know. Oh,

0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:45.560
<v Speaker 3>you're saying, like, I'm justin go a different direction.

0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:49.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if if internally the Susie thing you knew was

0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 1>always gonna bother you, why not maybe pivot and take

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:54.399
<v Speaker 1>that chance.

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I regret it.

0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:58.160
<v Speaker 5>It's one of my I don't have a lot of regrets,

0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:00.879
<v Speaker 5>but that is a regret. And I was talking to

0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:04.360
<v Speaker 5>my mom about that recently. I wish I think because

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:06.399
<v Speaker 5>I had that one on one with Justin, for whatever

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:08.960
<v Speaker 5>unknown reason, I felt like I owed him the Rose

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:11.800
<v Speaker 5>because we got to open up about things. I had

0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:15.240
<v Speaker 5>the most time with him, and I just didn't have that.

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 4>With with Kyle or Jonathan.

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 5>But I think if I could go back, I would

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 5>pull Justin right before the rose ceremony and say, exactly

0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:26.119
<v Speaker 5>what you just said. These hesitations aren't going anywhere, and

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.399
<v Speaker 5>it's kind of actually affecting me to be able to

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:31.360
<v Speaker 5>immerse myself in this, and so because of that, I'm

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:33.959
<v Speaker 5>going to take a chance on Kyle or Jonathan and

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 5>I just in the moment, it all feels so much

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:38.680
<v Speaker 5>pressure and we'd had the one on one.

0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 4>It just I don't know.

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, in hindsight, it's always twenty twenty. I mean,

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 2>you're now looking back on it kind of yeah, understanding

0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 2>that maybe he wasn't as ready as you thought he

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 2>was that first week, and like maybe you could have

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 2>furthered something with Kyle. But I think in that moment,

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you're probably well, I've invested so much time in this person,

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 2>and I kind of know where their head is at

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.119
<v Speaker 2>at least what they're telling me, Like, let's kind of

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:02.240
<v Speaker 2>see where this can go.

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.320
<v Speaker 4>Totally that's literally exactly what happened.

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So going into the Rows ceremony, who would you

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>say is the strongest.

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.199
<v Speaker 4>Couple going into the Rose ceremony?

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:19.200
<v Speaker 5>I would say Jess and Spencer, And I was her roommate,

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 5>so I got like a front row seat. They were

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:25.439
<v Speaker 5>just instantly connected. She has a very similar personality to him.

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:27.800
<v Speaker 5>They're both so bubbly, Like it was just so obvious,

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:30.640
<v Speaker 5>like I think since I would like go to war

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:32.639
<v Speaker 5>for Jess, like, and this is after knowing her for

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 5>two days, Like, it was just really sweet to watch.

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they had really really good chemistry from that first conversation.

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:41.919
<v Speaker 5>Oh good, Like it was just like two pieces that

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 5>fit together and made a lot of sense, and I

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:45.719
<v Speaker 5>love them both, so I was really just happy. I

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 5>was so happy for her and him, you know, but

0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 5>I was over in the corner, just like on the

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 5>show X on the Beach pretty much.

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've been there.

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 2>What did you think of Yeah, that's okay.

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 3>What did you think of the game?

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 5>I think it was great to do the compatibility challenges,

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:10.919
<v Speaker 5>like you get to see more of the person.

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.919
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, I thought it was actually really fun. I

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 4>think some people were a little stressed about you could

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 4>like tell who was who with the silhouettes too.

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.119
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, that's what Jess was saying.

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 2>She was like, based on like heights, anyone that was

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 2>in the standing pose, you could immediately kind of seemly.

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but it was so fun, Like I think that's

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 5>the type of things we need to be doing, as

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 5>fun as it is to like sit in the pool

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:35.199
<v Speaker 5>and talk like you know that we get to know

0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:36.400
<v Speaker 5>them on a little deeper level.

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:37.920
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, it was cute.

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 3>What did you think of the Hakeem Ricky fight?

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I like I really enjoyed both of them. I

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:47.880
<v Speaker 5>think Hakim is like very He's passionate. He's a passionate man,

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:51.119
<v Speaker 5>and I respect him for that, I, you know, I do.

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 5>I don't think I needed to get to that point.

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 5>It was a little heated in the moment, but you know,

0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 5>everyone's on edge. Hakim was invited to this quite a while.

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 4>He's been waiting so long.

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure because of that, he had what feels maybe

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 5>more pressure right because he was announced earlier.

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 4>So I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt.

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 4>It was squashed pretty quickly.

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:14.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it kind of translated as if you were watching it.

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 2>To me, it looked like Ricky kind of made like

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 2>a casual dig at a keem, probably not thinking anything

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:25.239
<v Speaker 2>of it. Key might have been feeling some sensitivity and

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 2>like insecurity throughout that challenge and just that day in general,

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:31.199
<v Speaker 2>and it just escalated way past maybe where either of

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 2>them thought it was going to go exactly.

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 5>And I think they both, from what I remembered, didn't

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 5>have like a strong, super strong connection, like an immediate connection.

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 5>So there's probably some you know, feelings there too, because

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:44.359
<v Speaker 5>there's so much build up to this, you know.

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely, who.

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:53.199
<v Speaker 2>Were you surprised went home? If anyone or were there

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.159
<v Speaker 2>any roses that were handed out that shocked you.

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 5>I was surprised Sam m went home. I think he is,

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.400
<v Speaker 5>you know, he's great personality. He had the one on

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 5>one card, but he kind of had a disadvantage because

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 5>he came in and gave the date to Jess and

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:12.120
<v Speaker 5>she had already established a connection with Spencer. So I think,

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, Jess had so much fun on that date.

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 5>I think she just had a stronger connection with Spencer,

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 5>and so I think Sam was a little bit at

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 5>a loss, Like he came in and he was like, well,

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 5>who who am I? You know, who am I connecting

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 5>with here? It's all about timing too, Like when he

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 5>came down to the beach, it was just kind of

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 5>like a weird time because I already had been a

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 5>lot of formal connections.

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was in a tough spot because I guess

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 2>he kind of like missed out on that first day

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 2>and then he comes down, he immediately takes Jess and

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't really have time to like get to know

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 2>anyone else, to have like a secondary possibility to get

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 2>a rose.

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 3>So that's hard.

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 2>We were actually bummed to see him go so early

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 2>because we thought there was like maybe something for him

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 2>to find someone.

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 5>I think he also deserved like a chance to retell

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 5>his story. I think on gen season he was portrayed

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 5>in a light that's not who he is. He seemed,

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:02.159
<v Speaker 5>you know, he's come to Atlanta times. His friend Thomas

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.239
<v Speaker 5>lives there from his season, and so I've seen them

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 5>out and he is a really sweet guy. So I

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 5>was bummed he didn't get a chance to have like

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 5>his redemption story moment.

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 4>But that's okay. You know, he can live his life

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 4>how he wants after this.

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know it's still.

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 2>He got a mini redemption, you know, like his time

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 2>on the show was short, but like he came across

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 2>like a gentleman and everyone seemed to have good interactions

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 2>with him, and like it least not enough, not enough,

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:27.400
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like it leaves the audience at least

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 2>with a good taste in their mind.

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw out a hypothetical for you. Let's say

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you know who Justin is, but you don't follow him

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram or social media. You never spoke to Susie.

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 1>You know who she is, but you don't even know

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 1>they date it and you and Susie never never talked.

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that would have changed everything for you?

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:56.959
<v Speaker 5>I think it would have had a significant impact on

0:28:57.040 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 5>how I was feeling.

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>It's super complicated. I think had you in this hypothatohole

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 2>not known about the Suzui situation, do you think Justin

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 2>would have brought it up on his own? Like what

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 2>was his approach to handling it?

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 5>A really good question because I believe I was the

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 5>first one that brought it up, because I brought up

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 5>the phone call. I talked to Jess the night before

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 5>our rescheduled date and I said, how do I bring

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 5>this up right? Like? And so I was like, I'm

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 5>going to just be really honest because I had the

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 5>call with her. We talked for a really long time,

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 5>and I wanted to get that out there. And so, yeah,

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 5>I don't know. I think the whole thing was just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of it was really making me spiral, is.

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<v Speaker 1>What I Yeah, I get that. I think, not that

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<v Speaker 1>you're asking for my advice, but I'm gonna I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to throw it out there. I think the best

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<v Speaker 1>way to go into Paradise is with the attitude of

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<v Speaker 1>fuck all these people, and I'm here solely for myself

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<v Speaker 1>to see if I could find a connection, because there

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of that where you meet people, you're

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<v Speaker 1>half assed friends with people, and it could potentially ruin

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<v Speaker 1>something great for like this bullshit friendship.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but I do feel like it's harder with

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<v Speaker 2>women and female friendships a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You always say that, but I'm a good friend. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying. We all go on a dating show to

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<v Speaker 1>date each other, you know, it kind of has to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you know what I'm doing me for everyone?

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<v Speaker 5>I guess yeah, you Honestly, Joe, if I had done that,

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't have given him the roads I would have

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<v Speaker 5>given me Eyler Jonathan and I can say that with

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<v Speaker 5>a hundred confidence.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, we are very excited to watch the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the season that the first episode was great, you

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<v Speaker 2>look great in it, and we're excited.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, to see where the rest goes. So thanks

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<v Speaker 3>so much for coming on.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. I'm excited. Should be a good journey.

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