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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind. This is Rob

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Speaker 1: Lamb and since we're a little bit on the topic

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Speaker 1: of where Wolves of late, we are going to rerun

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Speaker 1: our episode from four five, twenty twenty four. This is

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Speaker 1: going to be Wolf Devil Woman from nineteen eighty two,

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Speaker 1: a Taiwanese fantasy film starring and directed by the amazing

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Speaker 1: Pearl Chang. Let's jump right in.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Hey you, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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Speaker 3: This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And

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Speaker 3: today we are going to be talking about the nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty two Taiwanese fantasy wusha film Wolf Devil Woman aka

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Speaker 3: Wolf and Queen aka Wolf and Ninja, which was distributed

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Speaker 3: by IFD, a company that apparently really enjoyed giving movies

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Speaker 3: an English title with the word ninja in them. Whether

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Speaker 3: or not the movie had anything to do with a

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Speaker 3: ninja usually I think it didn't.

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Speaker 1: A bit of just.

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Speaker 3: Slot ninja in there, So Wolf and Ninja, I guess

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Speaker 3: that'll kind of work. But I'm gonna call it Wolf

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Speaker 3: Devil Woman because I think that is it combines all

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Speaker 3: of the themes of the movie. You definitely have a woman,

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Speaker 3: she is kind of a wolf woman, and there are

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Speaker 3: major themes of devils, even though the wolf woman is

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Speaker 3: not really a devil.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I think this is the title to go with.

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Speaker 3: So Rob, I don't know if you have another contender

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Speaker 3: in mind here, but I would say of all the

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Speaker 3: films we have ever covered on Weird House, I think

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Speaker 3: Wolf Devil Woman is one of the most shrouded in mystery.

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Speaker 3: And by that I just mean that we were able

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Speaker 3: to turn up very little objective information in English about

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Speaker 3: the production history and the people who made this movie,

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Speaker 3: at least compared to most of the movies that we

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Speaker 3: watch on the show. But one thing that is for

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Speaker 3: certain is we know it is of course, you know,

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Speaker 3: movies are all the work of many people. There's never

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Speaker 3: just one creator. But this movie, I think is well

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Speaker 3: known as a product of a singular genius by the writer, director, producer,

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Speaker 3: and star Zang Ling, known in international releases as Pearl Chang.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pearl Chang is the moniker that I believe IFD

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Speaker 1: gave her just to like, you know, to spice it

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Speaker 1: Call her Pearl Chang. It's just marketing, so zang Ling

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Speaker 1: or Pearl Chang wrote and directed four movies around the

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Speaker 1: because she has such a weird, bizarre, pleasing and distinct style.

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Speaker 1: This is a movie that will devil woman. I mean specifically,

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Speaker 1: is a movie that has had a reputation for many

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Speaker 1: a laugh. And it certainly does have elements that are

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Speaker 1: very funny. But I also think this movie really does

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Speaker 1: is intentionally comedic throughout. So it's not just a situation

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Speaker 1: Like they're attempting and succeeding multiple times with comedy. We

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Speaker 3: So like by the end of the movie, the Wolf

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's based on you know, my observations

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Speaker 3: She really embraces the wolfinness of the wolf character. But

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Speaker 3: to issue one word of warning if you're gonna go

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Speaker 3: so large warning. If that's gonna bother you, you might

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, an unfortunate reality of some of these older pictures.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, not to forgive it. It's there and if

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Speaker 1: It's worth pointing out this is our third Taiwanese film.

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Speaker 1: I believe we previously discussed Thrilling Bloody Sword and Child

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Speaker 1: And on the other hand, it does have plenty of

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Speaker 3: The commentary track on the release of this movie that

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember one thing that he mentioned in some

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Speaker 3: I do really love a lot of the stunts in

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. It has some of these these great Lusha

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's plenty of magic to go around. It's

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Speaker 3: Okay, should we do the elevator pitch.

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Speaker 1: Let's have it.

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Speaker 3: A young woman is raised by wolves after her parents

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Speaker 1: All right, Joe, what's your what's your tagline for this one?

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Speaker 3: Who are you gonna call white gensing? Okay, gen sing root?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, white gensing has a major role in this picture,

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Speaker 1: if this was ultimately something where the actual term used

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Speaker 1: in the Mandarin it's referring to some sort of mythical substance,

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Speaker 1: because there are plenty of things like that, you know

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Speaker 1: mind before, you know, some sort of mythical substance that

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Speaker 1: So maybe it was something like that somehow, you know,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that Golden Ninja video release was titled Wolf

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get into it as much as

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Speaker 3: the title translates to Armed Escort or China Armed Escort,

436
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 3: which was it seems an unofficial movie adaptation of this

437
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: TV show The Protector, which had been her big hit.

438
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 3: And then after this she would go on to write

439
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 3: and direct her own features, which are generally Wusha revenge stories.

440
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 3: One of them is called Miraculous Flower, released in nineteen

441
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 3: eighty one. I think basically all of these had multiple

442
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 3: different English titles, so there can be some confusion there,

443
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 3: but one is referred to in the documentary as Miraculous Flower.

444
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 3: This is sort of considered notable because a lot of

445
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 3: the films of this type produced around this time would

446
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 3: be shot mostly on indoor stage sets, but apparently Miraculous

447
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 3: Flower had a lot of outdoor filming locations and was

448
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 3: quite lovely looking.

449
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, this extra included one clip from some sort of

450
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: a waterfall that looked a lot like the waterfall from

451
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: Child Peach. I'm not certain, but I mean, obviously there's

452
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: more than one waterfall in Taiwan, but at any rate,

453
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: very very interesting use of outdoor filming locations for sure,

454
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: as opposed to these indoor sets, which I don't know.

455
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: I love a great over the top Taiwanese Wu Shaw set,

456
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: and we can get those in this picture.

457
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we get a great temple set for a They

458
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 3: kick off the movie with a rollicking crucifixion at an

459
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: indoor temple set, let's see. According to this documentary, this

460
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 3: seems less well founded but just sort of general rumors

461
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: about Zengling's reputation. She was considered something of a loaner

462
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 3: and was characterized by some as maybe difficult to work with,

463
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 3: or as a perfectionist and difficult to work with. But

464
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: dclu argues in this documentary that it's quite possible that

465
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: having a reputation for being difficult to work with was

466
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Speaker 3: just like men in a male dominated industry reacting with

467
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 3: alarm to a woman who is insisting on doing things

468
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Speaker 3: her way.

469
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. We've touched on the whole difficult to work with

470
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Speaker 1: a label before on the show, which can mean a

471
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: lot of things. You can see it applied to people

472
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: like say klaus Kinski, who I think was legitimately difficult,

473
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: if not impossible, to work with.

474
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 3: That was a hymn thing, not an other people thing.

475
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, but other times who can say, you know, it

476
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: could be just the slightest thing possible that just goes

477
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: to the echo chamber and then it becomes difficult to

478
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:18,719
Speaker 1: work with, you know.

479
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can certainly imagine in any national context, really

480
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 3: that a woman making films might well just like have

481
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: a creative vision of her own and she's like, this

482
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: is the way we need to do it, and maybe

483
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 3: some guys around her are just freaked out by that.

484
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 3: But anyway, in nineteen eighty three, I think this is

485
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: one of her final credits, she acted alongside Jackie Chan

486
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: but also Jimmy Wang Yu and Brigent Lynn in Fantasy

487
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: Mission Force, which was a Hong Kong a sort of

488
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: martial arts fantasy horror movie. And then she also released

489
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: her final film, General Invincible in nineteen eighty three, after

490
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 3: which she apparently just disappeared from public view. So there

491
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 3: is not really, as far as I could tell, anything

492
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 3: known about what she did after that.

493
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's been no death date for her,

494
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: so one presumes that she's still alive, but doesn't seem

495
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: to have been a public persona in any way after

496
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: this last film, which is fine. We've talked about this before,

497
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: like Warhawk Tanzania made basically just a very small handful

498
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: of pictures and then disappeared, presumably still alive, but maybe

499
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: just didn't want to be part of the limelight after that.

500
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: And if so, more power to him and more power

501
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: to Proachang. If that is the case.

502
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: Here, Yes, retiring from a public facing profession and just

503
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 3: living your life. I give that my full blessing. It's

504
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: a choice I support.

505
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: Now. I don't know about you, Joe, but you know

506
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: it's you can't help but compare a performer, especially you know,

507
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: a real larger than a live performer, to try and

508
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: find some comparison to them, either like in current or

509
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: recent or like a different nationality of cinema. And the

510
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: main person that I kept thinking of watching Pearl Chang

511
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: on screen is Amy Sedaris. I'm a big Amy Sidaris fan,

512
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: and there's just something, especially in the comedic scenes, the

513
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 1: way Amy Sedaris really commits to these you know, weird

514
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: and wacky moments. I felt like she had a similar

515
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: energy here Pearl Chang did.

516
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, maybe like hopping around and falling on your

517
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: face with the rabbit blood all over your chin and yeah, yeah, yeah.

518
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: There are multiple parts in the film where I was

519
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: like this, Amy Sidaris would have totally done this.

520
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, the restaurant chicken disaster scene.

521
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, So stuff like that, And I don't know,

522
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 1: Also maybe i'm you know, I can't help but compare,

523
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: and you know, think about Amy Sidaris as someone who

524
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: also has like a very seems to have a very

525
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: singular vision and you know, a big personality. But also

526
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: is you know, I don't think Amy Sides is a

527
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: loner by any means, but she also I've seen things

528
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: where she talks about, like, you know, enjoying crafting by

529
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: herself and her apartment and that sort of thing. So

530
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, I can kind of line them up in

531
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: my own imagination on that level as well.

532
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I no offense to Amy Sedaris at all. I

533
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 3: can see her less in some of the other aspects

534
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: of this role that Pearl Chang does so wonderfully, like

535
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: the when she actually becomes the like the cold cold

536
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: steel warrior at the end.

537
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, when she gets into the like the

538
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: stone cold killer mode, it's a different act altogether, all right. Now.

539
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: One of the challenges that and a challenge we're not

540
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: really going to be able to overcome here is that

541
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: on all of the databases we had access to, none

542
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: of the actors are matched up with a character name.

543
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: And on top of that, the character name's very depending

544
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: if you're doing the dub or you're doing the subtitles,

545
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: So it gets very confusing and difficult to chart exactly

546
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: who everyone is supposed to be. Luckily, Pearl Chang's character

547
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: in this Snowflower or wolf woman or wolf and queen,

548
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: the various monikers that are attributed to her, she's the

549
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: main character. She's see really the only one you have

550
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: to be super invested in and know what her name is. Yeah,

551
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: But as far as we can tell, I believe Schifing

552
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: is the actor who plays master Lee. Master Lee being

553
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: the sort of he's sort of in the mold of

554
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: the traditional male hero.

555
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. In the picture, he's the wandering prince with the

556
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: powerful sword arm. Yeah.

557
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: So not a lot about this particular actor either. He

558
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: was born in nineteen forty two. This may be his

559
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: most well known film internationally, but he was also in

560
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six's Adventure of Shaolin, seventy eight's The Zodiac

561
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: Fighters in nineteen eighty two's The Hell and just basically

562
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: a character. I don't know who played these characters, but

563
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: he has a sidekick named Wong, but also possibly Rudy

564
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: I think, but will probably refer to him as Wong.

565
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: And then he he has a master, like a shooland

566
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: master that he studied under, by the name of Master Chew.

567
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, all right.

568
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: And then Master Lee's father, I'm not sure if we

569
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: know his name, but he has a father that he

570
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: meets with and is sent on missions by. This character

571
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: is played by c Wang, who lived nineteen thirty through

572
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, an actor who appeared in two films that

573
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: we've talked about on the show before. Nineteen seventy five

574
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: is The Super Inframan, in which he plays a professor

575
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: at one point, and also nineteen seventy six is The

576
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: Oily Maniac. This was a Shaw Brothers melt monster movie.

577
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: He has I think it's a small part, but he

578
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: plays a lawyer in that man.

579
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Speaker 3: Those are like the two ends of the spectrum, like

580
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: the like with Inframan, you've got the most beautiful, holy,

581
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: pure imagination ever, and then with The Oily Maniac, just

582
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: the sedious thing we've ever watched.

583
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And to be clear, we do avoid most

584
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: CD films, but this one has some CD elements that

585
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: kind of like slipped in early on in weird house

586
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: cinema that we have we generally avoid later on. But

587
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: still very cool monster and I'm guessing a great performance

588
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 1: by weighing here as a lawyer. His other film credits

589
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: include nineteen eighty six Is a Better Tomorrow, directed by

590
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: John Wu and starring Chao Yon Fat and Leslie Chung.

591
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: He has one hundred and ninety credits on Hong Kong

592
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: Movie Database, so it seems like he was kind of

593
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: like a workhorse performer that they brought in for this one.

594
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: That's my interpretation anyway. And then as far as the

595
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: music goes, the credited composer is Huang Mao Sean born

596
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: nineteen forty, Taiwanese film composer whose credits include eighty two's

597
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: The Green Green Grass of Home and also nineteen eighty

598
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: one's The Devil. I will say the music and overall

599
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: soundscape in this movie tends to to rapidly move in

600
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: and out of just electric tronic madness with demon growls,

601
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: demon laughter and howling wolves to like sort of traditional

602
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: East Asian themes.

603
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: There was one review I read where I couldn't confirm

604
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: whether this was true or not, but it alleged that

605
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: this movie also used some music from Dawn of the Dead.

606
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: That would be believable. Yeah, there are a lot of

607
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: these pictures that seem to play a little fast and

608
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: loose with their soundtrack. I mean you find that in

609
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: others as well. I was watching Ramsey Brothers Indian horror

610
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: movie just like last week, and there's one point where

611
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: they just go straight into Friday the Thirteenth music purchased,

612
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: even with the sound effect, all of it just blatantgend

613
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: ground here. Yeah, just blatantly ripped from Friday the thirteenth.

614
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: So you know that sort of thing occurs.

615
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: Okay, that's good, But I'd be really impressed if it

616
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: just started featuring the Darkest Side of Night from Jason

617
00:33:58,920 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: Takes Manhattan.

618
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that was the rock number.

619
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Fallen Angels into the Street.

620
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing as obvious as all that here though.

621
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: All right, you ready to talk about the plot.

622
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's talk about this plot.

623
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 3: Okay, Rob, I've pulled in some screenshots from the first

624
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: couple of minutes of the movie that you can peruse

625
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: while I'm trying to describe what happens here, because it's

626
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 3: a lot to take in really fast.

627
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the first three minutes of this movie are incredibly

628
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: weird and captivating. So if you're just on the fence,

629
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: go check out the first three minutes on tuby or

630
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: wherever you find a rip of it. I think you'll

631
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: be convinced.

632
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the film begins with lightning ripping across the

633
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: sky that is covered in smoke. We see a dead

634
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: tree with barren limbs burning in the night. Then we

635
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: see a golden idol in the crude shape of a

636
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: man graft in a room with violet walls. Then some

637
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: kind of throne room or temple with like an elevated

638
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: area above, you know, in the center of the room,

639
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: big old platform in the center. Hooded figures in black

640
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: and white carry candles across the floor and gather in

641
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: advance of an ominous ceremony. Then we get our tidal screen.

642
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 3: In this version, it says wolf and Ninja. So the

643
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: hooded figures begin to approach the altar at the head

644
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: of the temple and they are carrying with them a man.

645
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 3: The man is prone and tied to a beam. But wait,

646
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 3: it's not just a beam, it is a cross. It

647
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 3: is a man tied to a blocky red crucifix, and

648
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 3: the man on the cross is hoisted up above the

649
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 3: gathered congregation of evil. He's tied to the cross, and

650
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: then a horrible figure takes center stage. It is someone

651
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: in dark clothing wearing a red and gold cape and

652
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: a glittering silver conical hat with a veil that falls

653
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: over the face and hangs down in front and back,

654
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: and on the front of the conical part of the

655
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: hat there is a hot pink skull and crossbones. So

656
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: it is essentially a pirate glam rock capi rote or

657
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: like a penitent's hood.

658
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the Red Devil, which we'll find out later.

659
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: And he's just fabulous, just just dressed to the nines

660
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: here and seem conceived in a way to where it

661
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: does seem like multiple influences are coming together. Like this

662
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: is not sort of your stereotypical like Hong Kong action

663
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: picture Wushaw villain. Like there are elements like you said

664
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: of like you know, Spanish, Spanish inquisition perhaps and penitents

665
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: and also I guess pirates and also like disco warriors.

666
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, the pink skull and crossbones. Yeah, but the sparkles,

667
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 3: it's like glittering.

668
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. So already, just like three minutes into the picture,

669
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 1: we have this character. We have a black magic crucifixion.

670
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on.

671
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: So we got several observers looking on in fear, others

672
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: looking on with excitement. Some of the people in the

673
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: room here are like vampires and orcs. There's one guy

674
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 3: that's just I don't know is the like is the

675
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: green orc mask supposed to be a vampire. I don't

676
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: know exactly what this guy's deal is.

677
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are two kind of spirit Halloween mask masks

678
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: going on that are not convincing as actual fleshy faces.

679
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: They look like Halloween masks, but I wouldn't change them

680
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: for anything. No, No, they they ultimately work within the

681
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: context of this film, but they are I guess, if

682
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: you want to get critical, some of the weakest choices

683
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: in the picture.

684
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the glam rock demon priest who he also

685
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: has I didn't even get to this part yet. He's

686
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: got knives for fingers, but they're not like Freddy kruegers,

687
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: which are oriented what you might say, perpendicular to like

688
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: the knuckles on the on the fingers. These are like

689
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 3: sort of knife shovels that extend about a foot out

690
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: from the tips of the fingers, like fingernails, essentially along

691
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 3: the contours of what a fingernail would be, but more

692
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: curved inward and sharper.

693
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: Yes, And the dub for this character's voice is terrific.

694
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: It's just just the right level of cheesy over the

695
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: top villain that works perfectly with such a cheesy over

696
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: the top villain. So again that the dub matches the

697
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: context of the picture perfectly.

698
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: Here, Yes, so the demon priest picks up a doll

699
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: or an idol and then pierces its heart with a stick.

700
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 3: And then this, by the principle commonly associated in movies

701
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: with a voodoo doll, causes an equivalent wound to explode

702
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: on the chest of the man tied to the cross.

703
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: So the wound is the wound here is actually with

704
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 3: cell animation, which I love. And so like a hole

705
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: that looks almost like a gap blasted in rock with

706
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 3: cracks all around, it opens up over the man's heart

707
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: and red blood pours out and again this is on

708
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: a on a film, uh like film like still film

709
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: of the guy, and it's animated on top of that.

710
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it. I love it. It's just it's

711
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: like they could have done more of just like a

712
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: traditional you know, blood effect, and that would have been

713
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: that would have been great years later, this would have

714
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: probably been c G I blood. But instead we have this.

715
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: Uh we're between those two and uh and it ultimately

716
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: looks really cool.

717
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some really great cell animation that comes in

718
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: later too, Like in the very last scene there's some

719
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 3: cell animated fire that is beautiful. Also, I should say

720
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: throughout the scene that the demon or the demon priest,

721
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 3: he keeps making a grunting sound which then echoes back

722
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 3: a lot. So imagine it's this voice. It goes like yow,

723
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: but then it echoes thirty times.

724
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: Yes, there is a lot of that. Like I said,

725
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: the soundscape for this picture is pretty bonkers just on

726
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: its own.

727
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 3: Then the demon Priest takes the doll and turns it

728
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: upside down and dunks it headfirst into this big old

729
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 3: vat of frothy red goo. And this causes some kind

730
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: of pain and suffering for the man on the cross,

731
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: and then in the background of the room there is

732
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 3: a couple holding a baby wrapped in yellow swaddling, and

733
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: I'm just like, this is not the kind of event

734
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: you bring a baby.

735
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: To, and I think they're having the same realization. They're like, honey,

736
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: I think it's time we fled the cult. I think

737
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: the devil Colt has gotten a little too heavy for us,

738
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: and we need to think about raising this child somewhere else.

739
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 3: Exactly. They're observing this ritual torture in horror, and yeah,

740
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what they're doing here, but they obviously

741
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: don't like it. And then we see the man on

742
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: the cross. He spits blood and dies. The doll falls

743
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 3: to the floor and show and then suddenly we just

744
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: smash cut to the mother and the father we saw

745
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: in the room. They're now outside on a snow covered

746
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: mountain side, surrounded by evergreen trees, fleeing for their lives

747
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: with their baby in their arms. The man and the

748
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: woman are frightened and exhausted, and we see them both

749
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: carrying swords, so I guess this is like a married

750
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: pair of warriors. And while running through the snow, the

751
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: man and woman are attacked by fighters dressed in red,

752
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 3: wielding swords and pole arms. And then the leader of

753
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: the demon fighters appears and he is one of the

754
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 3: guys we saw at the ceremony, the guy in the

755
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: goofiest of all the masks. It's like the vampire orc mask.

756
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, the other masks looked coolers, So I do wonder

757
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: why they picked this one to do these things with.

758
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: It's good, so he said. The demon leader he you know,

759
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: goes to the he's talking to the parents and he says, traitor,

760
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 3: you will be punished for your treachery. And the mother

761
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: says to him, We'd rather die then go back to

762
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 3: your hell and serve under you. So did they come

763
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 3: from Hell? Possibly?

764
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: Well, maybe all.

765
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 3: And then the parents they the parents are brave fighters,

766
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: so they fend off the demon hinchmen. Initially they sort

767
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: of duel with them while they try to escape up

768
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: the mountain. I think we do learn that the mother's

769
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 3: name is Jade. And then when the parents are eventually

770
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: cornered by the fighters from Hell, they decide to things.

771
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: I was about to say things start getting weird, but

772
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 3: they've been weird. Here's another weird thing. They decide to

773
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: sacrifice themselves to protect their baby. And the way they

774
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: decide to do this is they stab each other with

775
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: swords and then rapidly slam their heads into the ground

776
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: until the headbutting of the mountain causes an avalanche, and

777
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: the avalanche comes down and covers everything with snow. And

778
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: then they bleed on their child and they say the

779
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: blood will keep the baby warm and protect her from

780
00:42:59,040 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: the snow.

781
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: Oh so many, so many issues with this plan. And

782
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: I have to say too, in that crazy moment when

783
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: this first happens, it's not entirely clear that they are

784
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: stabbing themselves. It looked I thought they were stabbing the

785
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: baby and running the Yeah, Like I was like, oh

786
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: my god, this movie got so strange and weird and

787
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: dark all of a sudden I had it wasn't until

788
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: the second time I was going through it with the

789
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: dub and the subtitle of the like, Okay, they're clearly

790
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: stabbing themselves, And then I understood this ridiculous plot of

791
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: theirs to bleed all over their baby so that their

792
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: warm blood will keep the baby warm, as if blood

793
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,959
Speaker 1: has self sustaining warmth or something. But you know, within

794
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: a mythic context, fine.

795
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: I criticized this plan as not realistic.

796
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: I probably supposed to be more symbolic than realistic. I recognize.

797
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the avalanche comes down and buries them, but

798
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: the devil warriors are not satisfied. They go digging in

799
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 3: the snow to find the three of them, and they

800
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: eventually do find the two parents, but before they can

801
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: collect the child from underneath the avalanche, they are driven

802
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: away by wolves. Wolves come out howling and chase away

803
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: the demon fighters. But actually are these wolves?

804
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 4: Know?

805
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: They're they're sweet doggies. Yeah, they look like good boys.

806
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: They're just straight up German shepherds without anything ad Like

807
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: they're not wearing anything weird, like they didn't put extra

808
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: for or anything.

809
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but so I love these dogs. The dogs run

810
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 3: up and they start eating the parents' bodies.

811
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they express the bodies to pieces and big

812
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: bloody splashes in the white snow.

813
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, they're like ripping arms off and stuff. But

814
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: then when a quote wolf finds the baby, the wolf

815
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: does not harm the baby and instead brings her back

816
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 3: to the wolf den, which is like a cave of ice,

817
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: a frosty cave where the wolves make their home. And

818
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: we see the wolf carrying the baby along the way,

819
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: which is, by the way clearly just like a weightless

820
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: yellow bundle of cloth. But then back at the cave,

821
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: the wolf mother takes care of the baby and crouches

822
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: over her to protect her, and then we see time

823
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: is passing.

824
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: This includes multiple shots though of the baby crying quite

825
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: audibly while the wolf like growls at the baby, and

826
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: the baby's covered with blood. And this feels like it

827
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: goes on for about five minutes.

828
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: Yes, but the wolf is it is weird, but the

829
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: wolf is protecting the baby.

830
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: Yes.

831
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: So years into the future we see that the child

832
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 3: is growing up now that I don't know how old

833
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 3: she's supposed to be in the scene, but she's older now.

834
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 3: She can like walk around and stuff. She's living with

835
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 3: the wolves, and she is dressed in furs and pelts

836
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 3: and just like tearing into a big old, bloody hunk

837
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: of raw meat, just like eating the raw meat, getting

838
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: blood everywhere, and we see her practicing hunting. She tries

839
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 3: to hunt a rabbit like her like her wolf family

840
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: here does, but she fails and she ends up tumbling

841
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 3: down a hill and getting injured and then lying back

842
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: the cave covered in blood from her injuries while trying

843
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 3: to hunt. The wolf girl is nursed back to health

844
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: by her wolf mother, and in fact, the wolf mother

845
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 3: brings her some kind of medicine. The wolf I guess

846
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 3: has medical knowledge and brings her strange plant matter found

847
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 3: from outside. What could this be? I believe this is

848
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 3: going to be the special ginseng root that we learn

849
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 3: about later.

850
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they're all a part of the Wolf Devil

851
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: Woman diet. Some of you may the adherence to the

852
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: Wolf Devil Woman diet. It's just raw meat and white

853
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: gen sing. But you can eat as much white gen

854
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: sing as you want.

855
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 3: Oh, but when you follow the Wolf Devil Woman diet,

856
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: your your hair turns white and then turns black again.

857
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: But then at intermittent periods for the rest of your life,

858
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 3: we'll just turn white at certain times.

859
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: There are side effects.

860
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Time okay, So time passes once again, and when

861
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 3: we once again meet the Wolf Girl, she has become

862
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: the Wolf Devil Woman. So now we see Pearl Chang

863
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 3: Zengling is out hunting. She's like better at hunting now,

864
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: except so we see her hunting rabbits and she's she's

865
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 3: dressed in the garb of the wilderness, so it's all furs,

866
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 3: but also a wolf's head cap. And I was just thinking,

867
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 3: so is this It looks it's almost like it's supposed

868
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: to be a camouflage for her hunting rabbits, so she's

869
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: like camouflaged as the rabbit's natural predator.

870
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: This is the reveal of this costume and of the

871
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: adult wolf devil woman is just this is one of

872
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: those moments where you watch in the film and it's

873
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: like you feel like you're going crazy for a moment

874
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: because it's like a snowbank and then here is this

875
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: what looks like a like a stuffed wolf or a

876
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 1: stuffed fox or a stuffed German shepherd head peeking over

877
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 1: like muppeting up at you, and you're thinking, like what

878
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: is this? Is this a puppet effect? And then you're like, no,

879
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: this head is on top of Pearl Chang's head. This

880
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: is a hat or a costume. She is wearing some

881
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: sort of head dress, and then she commences to hunt rabbits.

882
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a lot. And so now grown up

883
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 3: and having learned the ways of the wolves and also

884
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 3: benefited from the potency of the White Gensen route, we

885
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: see that the wolf woman has extraordinary powers, so she

886
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 3: can make herself weightless in classic wusha wirework style, so

887
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 3: she dump jumps dozens of feet into the air glides

888
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 3: like a spirit on the wind. But I think it's

889
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 3: funny that it's cool that while she is shown to

890
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 3: have this power, she is also shown to be clumsy

891
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: in a sense, like failing to capture rabbits and reacting

892
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 3: with anger and frustration. So she'll like leap up thirty

893
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 3: feet in the air and try to like come down

894
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 3: and catch a rabbit and miss. But eventually she succeeds

895
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 3: in catching a rabbit, not with her mighty leaps, but

896
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 3: instead by using another strange power, digging tunnels under the snow,

897
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: So she like digs down and then comes up and

898
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 3: snatches the rabbit from below.

899
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a wolf? Is that? Maybe wolves hunt and

900
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: then the wild they dig under and they come up

901
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: like a sandwhorm gopher powers. Yeah.

902
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 3: Oh, somewhere around here we get an interlude on the demon,

903
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 3: which is what people are yelling, so we're cutting back

904
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 3: to some other actions somewhere else where. The editing is

905
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 3: so rapid it's really hard to tell what you're looking at.

906
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 3: But we get like rapid shots of things happening and

907
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: then people yelling the demon. So there's like something on

908
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 3: fire and somebody yells the demon. One we see one

909
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: of the vampire orcs beating somebody up. We see the

910
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 3: guy in the conical hat and the silver glam veil

911
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 3: blasting a guy with white smoke out of his hands,

912
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: saying you have betrayed me, and the guy is blasted

913
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: and shown frozen against the bark of a tree.

914
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that the only thing we're just supposed

915
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: to take from the scene, I assume, is just that

916
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: the demon and his forces are still out in the

917
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: world doing harm and perhaps and perhaps they're looking for something.

918
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: That's all we know.

919
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're causing problems. Yeah, but okay, we're about to

920
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: meet a couple of other major characters, master Lee and Wong,

921
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 3: And this is a kind of duo you might have

922
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 3: seen in adventure films before. Master Lee is a very

923
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: typical martial hero. He's a dashing and honorable, wandering swordsman,

924
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: you know, he's this kind of character is usually a

925
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: prince or some other kind of high born and then

926
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: he's got his comedy sidekick, often a cowardly comedy sidekick.

927
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 3: Though with Wong, I don't know if you've got a

928
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: similar kind of thing, Rob. When we first meet Wong,

929
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 3: I interpreted him as being sort of hapless and cowardly

930
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 3: and not very able to take care of himself. But

931
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 3: then by the end of the movie, he's like he's

932
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 3: kicking butt.

933
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like we've seen this before in Taiwanese

934
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: action films. I think there was a character in Child

935
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: of Peach like this who was very much there comedic

936
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: effect but also really good did get to tear it

937
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: up in some of the action scenes.

938
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: I guess it's just that you don't get a sense

939
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: early on that this character will would be like that.

940
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: But anyway, when we first meet them, they've been traveling

941
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 3: for days on an important mission, and Wong is tired

942
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: and is complaining. He has started complaining by this point,

943
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 3: but I don't know how early he started, so he

944
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 3: may have been complaining for a long time. He keeps

945
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 3: falling into holes in the ground and has to be

946
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: rescued over and over. Yeah, Wong and Master Lee catch

947
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 3: a rabbit for dinner, and warning, this is one scene

948
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 3: where you can quite clearly see what looks like an

949
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 3: unsimulated killing of a rabbit with an arrow. There are

950
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 3: other scenes with rabbits where something might be going on,

951
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: but it's harder to tell.

952
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, like sometimes a wolf woman may tear a rabbit's

953
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: body in half or and then eat it's bloody pieces.

954
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm assuming she's not eating actual raw rabbit. But then

955
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: they're also scenes where she tears humans in half, and

956
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent positive those are not real humans

957
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: being torn in half by wolf women.

958
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 3: But if you're if you're looking for the place where

959
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 3: you would really want to fast forward, it's going to

960
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: be right around in here. When when Wong starts trying

961
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: to get after a rabbit.

962
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: Right even though there's there's a fun gag there where

963
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: he's trying to throw a knife at the rabbit, and

964
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: then he gets over to the rabbit, he's like, there's

965
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: an arrow in this rabbit. I thought, I hit the

966
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: rabbit with my knife, And yeah, I don't know. It's

967
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: not worth watching the animal cruelty if you don't see it.

968
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 3: But so anyway, they cook it up for dinner and

969
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: then Master Lee plays his flute, and unfortunately here they

970
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 3: have an ill fated encounter with the wolf woman. She

971
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 3: sneaks up on them in their camp and attacks Wong,

972
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 3: and in reaction, oh no, they shoot her with an arrow.

973
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 3: That's not what we wanted. But once they realize she

974
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 3: is a human woman and not a wolf, they tried

975
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 3: to treat her with medicine, but then the rest of

976
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 3: the wolves attack their camp. They jump over the fire repeatedly.

977
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 3: There is whiplash editing, until finally Master Lee manages to

978
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 3: kill one of the wolves in the fighting, and oh no,

979
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 3: it seems that the wolf he killed may have been

980
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 3: the woman's wolf mother, but the wolf woman is unconscious

981
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 3: with her wound. She doesn't know that this happens initially,

982
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 3: so they track the They fall unconscious also for a bit,

983
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 3: I think, and I forget exactly the sequence here, but

984
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 3: they eventually track the wolf and the wolf woman back

985
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 3: to their cave. The woman attacks them again, at first,

986
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 3: revealing that she has great powers, like she's flying around

987
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 3: on wires and stuff, and Wong wants to fight back

988
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 3: with lethal force, but Master Lee restrains him. Clearly, Master

989
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: Lee takes pity on the wolf woman, and when she

990
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 3: passes out from her injuries, they treat her with medicine

991
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 3: that they have among their supplies, and Master Lee is like,

992
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: I know what's going on here. She is a creature

993
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 3: of the wilderness. He is a human raised by wolves,

994
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 3: and thus she does not know any human language and

995
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: does not understand what death is. So she goes on

996
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: trying to feed to the mother wolf even though it

997
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 3: has died. And then there is some time that passes,

998
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: so we see wolf Lady Lee and Wong hanging out

999
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: in the cave. There's some scene I don't remember how

1000
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 3: this starts, but where the wolf Lady is biting him.

1001
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 3: He is biding Lee on the hand, and we see

1002
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 3: Wong lying to her and telling her that the wolf

1003
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 3: wolf mother is still alive somewhere, like he sort of

1004
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: has to act this out in charades, but says she's

1005
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 3: off getting food somewhere. And then meanwhile we get another

1006
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 3: cut back to civilization. We see in a palace somewhere

1007
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 3: there is a king being attended by servants and subjects.

1008
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 3: This king is named Master You, and they say, Master

1009
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: the Blue Devil commanded us to give him the amulet

1010
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 3: or he'll kill us all. We have to hurry up

1011
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 3: and find a way to stop him. Another says, ma,

1012
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 3: terrror is everywhere. Too many people have died already already.

1013
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 3: And then the subjects all say in unison, Master you,

1014
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 3: we implore you to help us in this time of

1015
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 3: horror and death. And Master you is he's an older

1016
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 3: man with a stern face, angry eyebrows, and very solid beard.

1017
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 3: And he says that he understands the devil must be stopped,

1018
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 3: but he cannot do it without the aid of terrible magic.

1019
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 3: And there is only one thing on earth that possesses

1020
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: enough power to defeat this plague of demons, and that

1021
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 3: is the White Gensing Root. Then like smash cut before

1022
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 3: he even finishes saying the last word of his speech

1023
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 3: back to the cave.

1024
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: Now, is master you Lee's dad?

1025
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, Yes, he has sent Lee on a journey

1026
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 3: to retrieve the great White Gensen Route because it is

1027
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 3: the only thing that can that they think can stop

1028
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 3: the demon from attacking them. Now here's something I wasn't

1029
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 3: sure about, is like witch devil is the blue devil?

1030
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: Because there's another devil they call the red devil. I

1031
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 3: think the one in the conical hat is the red devil.

1032
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: So is the blue devil a different one? I don't

1033
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 3: quite know.

1034
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: I was wondering if they it was just a mistake

1035
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: that like Blue Devil and Red Devil are the same devil,

1036
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: because otherwise, who would Blue Devil be one of the

1037
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: spirit Halloween guys?

1038
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 3: Possibly the Witch, but they're saying he, so I think

1039
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 3: not her, So it could be one of the two

1040
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: Orc guys. I don't know either way.

1041
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: Team Devil team Demon is what they're up against, and

1042
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: the only way to do it. The only way to

1043
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: defeat them is White Gen sing route not Red Gen

1044
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: saying it's got to be White Jen sing. Right.

1045
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 3: So back at the Cave of Wolves, how long have

1046
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 3: Lee and Wong been here now unclear, but they're kind

1047
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 3: of settled in and Lee wakes Wong up, telling him

1048
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 3: it's time to move on. So, you know, we learned

1049
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 3: that Lee's father sent them on the quest for the

1050
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: great the Ginsen Root. They've been looking for it, they

1051
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 3: can't find it. We find out it's also a thousand

1052
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 3: year gensing root. Maybe it only appears once every thousand years,

1053
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 3: and they've been digging holes for it everywhere. So I

1054
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: think these are the holes that Wong was falling into earlier.

1055
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 3: With the holes they were digging looking for the root.

1056
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: That makes more sense than I had thought. Originally he

1057
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: was falling into a wolf woman holes that she was

1058
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: digging out to catch rabbits.

1059
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 3: That could be the case also, Actually I don't know

1060
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: for sure. But so they go out digging again. They

1061
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 3: get attacked by wolves again, but they are just cute

1062
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 3: little doggies, like sniffing around at their feet, and they

1063
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 3: are saved by the wolf woman, who calls off the pack,

1064
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 3: so the wolves obey her. And around here it starts

1065
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 3: to be quite obvious that Master Lee and the wolf

1066
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 3: lady are interested in each other. They stare at each other,

1067
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 3: they got like laser beams of love coming out of

1068
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 3: their eyes.

1069
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, how could they not fall in love?

1070
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? And then there's this weird scene where I don't

1071
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 3: know what's going on here. It's Master Lee starts adjusting

1072
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 3: the wolf Woman's bones, like he sees that she's walking

1073
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 3: around with a hunched posture and a strange gait, like

1074
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 3: like there's something wrong with her spine. So he grabs

1075
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 3: her suddenly, and we see an animation of her bones,

1076
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 3: like her vertebrae realigning, and then she starts biting him

1077
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 3: and Wong says, oh, no, she's biting him again. But

1078
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 3: after her bones are fixed and she seems grateful. She's

1079
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 3: kind of sheepish about the biting, like her mouth is

1080
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 3: covered in blood, but she I think, realizes that her

1081
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 3: bones have been fixed.

1082
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I mean, I just took the

1083
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: bi the bye. It's like I thought of my cat

1084
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: a lot. It's like, oh, she's biting me again, Like

1085
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: it's like my relationship with the cat, a wild animal

1086
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: that lives in my house.

1087
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 3: But they, yeah, they mend, they mend this, like she

1088
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: the wolf woman puts moss on Lee's hand and wraps

1089
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 3: it in a leather strap, and it's just clearly true

1090
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 3: love Lee. Lee and Wong start trying to teach her

1091
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 3: how to talk and how to have manners. So they say,

1092
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 3: you have a heart of gold, a spirit like spring mist,

1093
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 3: a face like a flower. Snowflower. Yes, Snowflower will be

1094
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 3: your name. And this name only half sticks for the

1095
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 3: rest of the movie.

1096
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but it is used again, I think I

1097
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: can't remember, as the dub or subtitles also call her

1098
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: winter High Discus or snow High Discus or something. But

1099
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: Snowflower is what sticks.

1100
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,959
Speaker 3: Right after they call her Snowflower. They're trying to teach her.

1101
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 3: They're trying to teach her grammar basically, and so she

1102
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 3: learns to say her own name and everybody else's. And

1103
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 3: there's this scene where she's arguing with Wong where she's

1104
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 3: like talking to Wong, saying you're wolf Woman, and he's saying, no,

1105
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 3: you're wolf Woman.

1106
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: I have forgotten any elemental Mandarin that I attempted to learn,

1107
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: but I have a feeling there might be a little

1108
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: bit more to this exchange in the original language, you know,

1109
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: like maybe it's a little more clever. And I mean

1110
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: it's still hokey, it's still played for laughs, but it

1111
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: might be it might play out a little bit differently

1112
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: in the native language.

1113
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 3: That seems quite likely. Yeah, we also get an education

1114
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 3: montage here, so you know, wolf Woman is learning how

1115
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 3: to be a human. And one day Wolf Woman in

1116
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 3: master League get to talking. She asks him if he's sad,

1117
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 3: and he says yeah. In the place he comes from,

1118
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 3: things are very dire. There is a wicked devil who

1119
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 3: rules over everything with extraordinary magic, killing many people, terrifying others,

1120
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 3: and Lee explains that he came to the Mountain because

1121
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 3: he needs to find the great White Gens en route,

1122
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 3: the only thing in the world powerful enough to defeat

1123
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 3: the demon. But of course the gensing is too strong

1124
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 3: for a mortal human to consume. It would just wreck them.

1125
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 3: And then the wolf lady gets curious. She's like, what

1126
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 3: is this white gen sing like? And he describes it

1127
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 3: and she's like, oh, yeah, I ate that years ago

1128
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 3: and there won't be another for a thousand years. Whoops. Yeah,

1129
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 3: So Wong is mad, but Lee says, perhaps it's for

1130
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 3: the best, and so he's got to go home and

1131
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 3: tell his father that the root will not be found,

1132
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 3: and they sort of they convince wolf women to come

1133
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 3: with them, but first they have to admit to her

1134
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 3: that her wolf mother is dead. I think they've been

1135
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 3: lying to her about this the whole time so far,

1136
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 3: which is weird, messed up. And then the wolf woman

1137
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 3: is greatly saddened by this, and the grief over her

1138
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: dead wolf mother causes her to turn blonde suddenly, and

1139
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 3: like I think, hair grows down over the front of

1140
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 3: her face and this is not the last time she

1141
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 3: will like activate her gensing powers through profound emotion and

1142
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 3: turn blonde.

1143
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it will happen again, and it's not permanent.

1144
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,479
Speaker 1: When it happens here, I thought, maybe she's just gonna

1145
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: look like this the rest of the picture, but she

1146
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: does not.

1147
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 3: So Master Lee and Wong go down the mountain and

1148
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 3: arrive at the home of Lee's master, his own teacher,

1149
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 3: and this is Master Chew. Master Cheu is your classic sage.

1150
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 3: He's dressed in all white, with long white hair, gigantic

1151
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 3: eyebrows like a mintat, long flowing mustache, and facial hair.

1152
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 3: And they meet him and he's he's like, I know

1153
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 3: everything that happened. Don't tell your father about the wolf lady,

1154
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 3: because he will just accuse you of wasting your time

1155
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 3: chasing women instead of accomplishing your quest. And then he

1156
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 3: also gives him a gift. He gives him a little

1157
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 3: box and he says, the thing in this box, it

1158
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: will protect you as soon as you open it, and

1159
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 3: then Master Chou flies away.

1160
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: The other thing I like about Master Chew is that

1161
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: he like you encounter this sort of performance and characterization

1162
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: a lot in like Hong Kong action films, Lushot films,

1163
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: and so forth, where it's clearly a much younger actor

1164
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: who's been dressed up to look like an old, sagely individual.

1165
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: So on one level, like it's obvious, but on the

1166
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: other level it kind of works because it's like this

1167
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: concept of like a Taoist immortal, Like yeah, it's like

1168
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: an old young and or young oldie, whichever way you

1169
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: want to look at it, Like, yeah, he's an old man,

1170
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: but he also there's something unnaturally young about him too,

1171
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: And I don't know how much of that was ultimately

1172
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: like accident of filmmaking, because you need this older individual

1173
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: to also do death defying stunts. However it comes together,

1174
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of a staple of the genre that I like.

1175
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 3: Would you agree that there's almost something kind of impish

1176
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 3: or mischievous about Master Chew in the way that he

1177
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 3: just pops up to with ease deliver information that other

1178
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 3: people had been struggling to learn or whatever. He just

1179
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 3: pops up and is like, hey, I know everything, or

1180
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 3: he just wanders into a scene and says, here's the

1181
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 3: real truth, here's who the devil is.

1182
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he is. There is an infish quality to it.

1183
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 3: Well, see inside the gift the box that Lee is given,

1184
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 3: there is some kind of highly reflective mirror in there

1185
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,479
Speaker 3: is it kind of an amulet?

1186
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, some sort of an amulet in there, So

1187
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: we're like, okay, magiciehim for later.

1188
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 3: Okay, So next we get a homecoming. Lee and Wong

1189
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 3: returned to Lee's father and they admit that they were

1190
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 3: unable to find the gin sing, so there's got to

1191
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 3: be another way to stop the demon. Next thing is

1192
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 3: they commence a mission. There's like they're going to go

1193
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 3: raid the demon hideout. I guess so, like Lee, his

1194
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 3: father and a group of warriors, all dressed in different colors,

1195
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 3: trek into this lush green forest, which I get. Did

1196
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 3: you understand this to be the Demon's camp?

1197
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: I guess so. Yeah, going into demon country.

1198
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 3: This was a very cool looking and dangerous feeling. Seen.

1199
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 3: We hear strange bird calls echoing through the trees, and

1200
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 3: at the camp there are the bodies of warriors hanging

1201
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 3: from the trees. But then it's a fake out because

1202
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 3: they think these are the Demon's victims, but actually the

1203
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 3: bodies hanging there are the devils pretending to be corpses,

1204
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 3: and they attack and.

1205
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: From this week get into the first of many action

1206
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: sequences here, where one of the core objectives is to

1207
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: nail demons to trees with arrows and or swords. This

1208
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: happens a lot and it never gets old.

1209
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good stuff. And the frenzied editing the demons

1210
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 3: appear and disappear. They use trickery and magic. We see

1211
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 3: the witch from the opening scene using this. She's wearing

1212
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 3: like a jeweled veil and she uses magic to knock

1213
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 3: Lee unconscious. And then later Lee awakes in the temple

1214
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 3: slash throne room from the beginning of the movie, and

1215
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 3: he now is the one affixed to the red cross.

1216
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: Oh, this doesn't look good for him.

1217
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 3: They mock him, and the gist is basically, you're a

1218
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 3: student of Master Chew, so you think you're really hot,

1219
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 3: but are you strong enough to defeat my fingernails? And

1220
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 3: the demon priest really likes laughing at nothing and then

1221
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 3: spraying people with dust from his sleeves. He's constantly Yeah.

1222
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 3: So the demon priest also wants to know what happened

1223
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 3: to the White Gensen route, and after torture, Lee tells

1224
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 3: him it was eaten by the wolf woman and the

1225
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: demon is mad about this. He does not like this information.

1226
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: This exchange is great because he's like somebody ate it,

1227
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: and he's like, somebody ate it?

1228
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 4: Who ate it?

1229
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, anyway, we got to get back to the

1230
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 3: Wolf Woman. What's she been up to? I missed the

1231
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 3: Wolf Woman. She finally comes down out of the mountain

1232
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 3: and she is now using a fraying knotted rope like

1233
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 3: Indiana Jones uses a whip. Rob did you think that

1234
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 3: maybe this rope slash whip was made out of rabbit pelts?

1235
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: That was the sense I got that this is like

1236
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: some sort of a super elaborate ninja whip weapon made

1237
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: out of rabbit pelts stitched together, but then with some

1238
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: sort of a four pronged animal claw situation going on

1239
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: at either end of said weapon.

1240
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she also has like bird claw feet bird

1241
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 3: feet claws that she uses as weapons. Yes, but she's

1242
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 3: using this whip to swing around through tree branches and

1243
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 3: fly through the forest. And then the Wolf Woman she

1244
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 3: walks into the Kingdom of the Demon. Now, first she

1245
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 3: goes into a barn, finds a chicken, rips its head

1246
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 3: off and starts eating it raw. And the farmers catch

1247
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 3: her stealing the chicken and they attack her with weapons

1248
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 3: and she violently defends herself. So there's another action scene.

1249
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 3: We get a brainwashing scene with Master Lee. So the

1250
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 3: Demon Priest uses the Golden Needle to essentially brainwash Lee

1251
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 3: into making him one of them, to making him loyal

1252
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 3: to the demon. And now Lee goes around doing he's

1253
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 3: an enforcer for the Demon Priest. Basically, he's like going

1254
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 3: up to people's houses telling them to surrender to the

1255
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 3: devil power.

1256
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's decked out in red now cut like a

1257
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: red veil covering half his face.

1258
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 3: So, oh no, Lee has become a bad guy. We

1259
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 3: even see him like he goes to people's houses and

1260
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 3: like beats them up. Yeah, there's one house he goes

1261
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 3: to and the Demon Priest shows up there when the

1262
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 3: guy won't submit and he's like, you worm, you have

1263
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 3: the guts to stand up to me. And we get

1264
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 3: a sleeve blast of course, you know, he loves to

1265
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 3: shoot the smoke out of his sleeve. Elsewhere, we get

1266
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 3: a scene of the Wolf Woman going to a restaurant.

1267
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 3: This is one we've alluded to, I think a couple

1268
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 3: of times now. So she's wandering, she's in civilization now

1269
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 3: and she's wandering through a city and she discovers that

1270
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 3: she likes the smell of food. So she goes into

1271
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 3: this restaurant. She doesn't know what to order, but she

1272
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 3: listens to what others at the table next to her say.

1273
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 3: And this is a large group of people, and they

1274
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 3: end up ordering boiled eggs, half of a roasted chicken,

1275
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 3: and five jugs of wine. And so she just orders

1276
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 3: the same thing. Yeah, She's like, I'll have what they're

1277
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 3: happening and yeah, and the guy's like, that's too much wine.

1278
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 3: But they bring it to her and she doesn't know

1279
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 3: how to use chopsticks and she gets drunk, and drunken

1280
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 3: wolf Woman is a problem. She like freaks out, rips

1281
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 3: out her own hair, and turns into the Gensing Blonde.

1282
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 3: And then the gensing Blonde is like, is a violent,

1283
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 3: drunken mess and wrecks the restaurant and beats up all

1284
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 3: the guys who try to stop her.

1285
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a mess. And this this whole sequence is wonderful,

1286
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's played for laughs. It's ridiculous, and

1287
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: I loved every minute of it. The comedic sections of

1288
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: some of these older movies they don't necessarily always stand

1289
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: the test of time or translate all that well.

1290
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 3: But this is all perfect, yes, but unfortunately she is

1291
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 3: eventually overpowered. I think because she's she's sort of on

1292
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 3: she's not at her full potential because of the five

1293
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 3: jugs of wine. Right, So the talentspeople capture her, they

1294
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 3: beat her with rods, they tie her in a sack,

1295
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 3: and then they dunk her up and down in the

1296
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 3: well and a sad song plays.

1297
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: This this one. This was another just outrageous moment for

1298
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: me though, because at least in the dub or the

1299
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 1: tran or the subtitles, they were like, throw her in

1300
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: the well, And I'm like, is this standard operating procedure? Like,

1301
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 1: there is a magical monster that has been arrested in

1302
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: your town, let us throw her into the town's primary

1303
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: water source. Yeah, that just doesn't seem like the best

1304
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: use of your well water. I'm I mean, I'm assuming

1305
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: you're drinking that water or you're using it for purposes

1306
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:33,480
Speaker 1: around town. Let's not let's not drain and drown supernatural

1307
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 1: beings in that water just to be on the safe side.

1308
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm confused about the strategy of the town's people here.

1309
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 3: But then we get an intervention by a familiar face.

1310
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 3: Wong shows up. He just happens to be walking by,

1311
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 3: that's right, So he like goes and tries to help her,

1312
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 3: but ultimately they are both thrown down into the well

1313
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 3: and then something there was a disconnect here. I didn't

1314
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 3: understand what happened. Somehow, Wong and the wolf woman are

1315
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 3: both washed out of the well into a fishing hole

1316
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 3: where Master Chew is there fishing. Yeah, did you understand

1317
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 3: what that was?

1318
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: It kind of felt like a scene was missing there.

1319
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: But I guess basically it's like down the well in

1320
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: water flushed out to another body of water. I guess

1321
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: it's just it's all connected.

1322
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 3: So here is the scene where she meets with Master

1323
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 3: Chew and Master Chew tells her about her history. He says,

1324
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 3: long ago, about twenty years ago, your father, the warrior

1325
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 3: of Steel Sparrow, fell under the charms of the Red Devil.

1326
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 3: When he discovered the evils of the devil, he took

1327
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 3: your mother and you and escaped. They could not outrun

1328
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 3: the Devil's men, and when they killed themselves, you used

1329
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 3: their warm. There was a typo in the subtitles here

1330
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 3: that said blow dough. I think that means blood to

1331
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 3: protect you. Then you were rescued by the White Wolf.

1332
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 3: All this has been predestined, and Master Chew also tells

1333
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,839
Speaker 3: her that it is her destiny to fight back because

1334
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 3: the Red Devil has wronged her, has killed her parents,

1335
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 3: and he is the Wolf Woman's enemy, so she must

1336
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 3: get revenge against the Devil. It is her destiny. And

1337
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 3: then there is some double take editing here. Suddenly we

1338
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 3: go straight from the scene where she's like being told

1339
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 3: this into combat scenes just action where the Wolf Woman

1340
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 3: is riding on horseback and whipping devil warriors heads off

1341
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 3: with the knotted rope and they're like on a beach

1342
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 3: and then a desert and she's whipping the rope. Their

1343
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 3: heads are going everywhere. She's also flying off of city

1344
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 3: walls and attacking the Devil soldiers again with the whip.

1345
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 3: And we also see her wearing a different outfit, a

1346
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 3: very cool costume change where it almost suggests she is

1347
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 3: now fulfilling some kind of religious function.

1348
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like some sort of divine warrior garb, all

1349
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: in white. So now she was like Wolf Devil Woman

1350
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: the White come back to to avenge everyone.

1351
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, so wolf Devil Woman not Devil Wolf Woman

1352
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 3: and Wong. They attack the Devil's hideout in the woods,

1353
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 3: the one that Master Lee and his father and all

1354
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 3: their men attacked earlier. And there are whoa what to

1355
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 3: say about the scene. There's like flaming bats flying all around.

1356
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 3: Suddenly Wong does seem like a competent fighter. Here we

1357
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 3: see wolf Woman versus the vampire orc that was chasing

1358
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 3: her parents, and she pins himTo a tree with swords,

1359
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 3: just general crazy wooshat action. And then we cut from

1360
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 3: there to Wolf Woman and Wong trekking through the desert,

1361
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 3: and there's more. There are more fight scenes. Here's one

1362
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 3: that's a great payoff where we see Wolf Woman's wolf

1363
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 3: hunting skills that she used against rabbits used against the

1364
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 3: Devil warriors, where she's like digging tunnels and popping up

1365
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 3: from under the sand to yank them down and destroy them. Also,

1366
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 3: there's just the gore effects here. I think fans of

1367
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 3: the show will know I'm not typically a gore hound.

1368
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 3: You know. Having a lot of blood and guts and

1369
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 3: stuff in a movie is not something I usually get

1370
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 3: excited about, but in this case it is because it's

1371
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 3: like the way the Wolf Woman will like hit one

1372
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 3: of the Devil fighters. She'll hit them and then we

1373
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 3: just see like bloody severed limbs falling to the ground.

1374
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's almost just the right level of slightly over

1375
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: the top but unbelievable practical bloody violence in a picture

1376
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 1: can yeah take on its own reality, like this isn't

1377
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: in the Story of Ricky Territory, But like Story of

1378
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: Ricky is a film that I haven't seen it a

1379
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: long time, so I don't know if it would still

1380
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 1: hold up this way for me, but I remember enjoying

1381
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: it on that level, and that it's like everyone but

1382
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 1: the hero's body is made out of just paper mache

1383
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 1: and jello and just comes apart immediately and nothing can

1384
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: withstand our hero. And it's the same with Wolf Devil Women.

1385
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 3: It's like those action figure I don't remember what they

1386
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 3: were called, but there were these action figures that had

1387
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 3: like a button you could press and all of their

1388
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 3: labels would just fall off of them at once.

1389
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeap, that's exactly what it's like with anyone who dare

1390
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: stand up against our Snowflower.

1391
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 3: So now Wolf Woman and Wong are suddenly in the

1392
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 3: Devil's temple. How'd they get there, I'm not sure, but

1393
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,759
Speaker 3: they see Lee dressed in the garb of the Red Devil.

1394
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 3: He's got the you know, the red veil on and

1395
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 3: they're like, Lee, what happened to you? They want him back,

1396
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 3: but the witches and the devils say no, you can't

1397
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 3: have him. He's with us.

1398
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: Now.

1399
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 3: There's more fighting, just general great fight scenes. I can't

1400
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 3: recount every point here, but I love them. Somewhere in here,

1401
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 3: somebody says, huh, she fights like a wolf, but this

1402
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 3: seems to me using a whip and jumping a lot yep,

1403
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 3: and the demon. The demon comes and tries to spray

1404
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 3: them with his sleeve dust, which of course is very

1405
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 3: very dangerous potent magic, and they beg Lee for help,

1406
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 3: and this suddenly snaps Lee out of his trance or something,

1407
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 3: and he jumps in to save them, and then he

1408
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 3: flies away carrying wolf woman and Wong, and Wong has

1409
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 3: been sleeve sprayed real bad, but he's not dead. And

1410
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 3: then suddenly they're just somewhere else being treated by Master Chew.

1411
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 3: It all happens. There's a very loose spatial logic to

1412
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 3: what's going on here, and it happens so fast with

1413
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 3: so little explanation. But I think Rob correct me if

1414
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. I think Lee explains that he was never

1415
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 3: actually like hypnotized by the Devil. He was just a

1416
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 3: spy learning how the Devil's Palace works.

1417
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: That's right, because Master Choo's amulet protected him from being

1418
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: brainwashed by the Demon cult. So he's just been in

1419
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: deep cover the whole time, which, as he pointed out,

1420
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 1: includes beating the crap out of innocence in earlier scenes.

1421
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I guess he thinks it was worth it

1422
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 3: because he learned the secret of the demon, which is

1423
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 3: that there's this golden needle which has this great power.

1424
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 3: We saw it at the beginning being inserted into a

1425
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 3: doll to cause pain, and it can be used on

1426
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 3: the demons too, I guess. So we get a final

1427
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 3: showdown scene where Lee, Wong and the Wolf Woman team up.

1428
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 3: They go back to the Red Devil Temple. Uh, and

1429
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 3: they're like, uh for there's some exchange. I'm afraid I'm

1430
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 3: getting this wrong, but they're like, we're here to kill you,

1431
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 3: and the Devil's like, you can't be serious, and they're like, no,

1432
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 3: that is correct, we're here to kill you.

1433
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: There's a great scene where they're they're you know, they're

1434
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 1: attacking the the Dnomonic temple here and incomes the lead

1435
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 1: demon priest and he said, or at least the subtitles say,

1436
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: and I think maybe the dub did this too. He says,

1437
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 1: look at me, fools.

1438
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 3: You know I am doing it.

1439
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 1: That's this huge intro number. And then yeah, it's just

1440
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: crazy fighting from there on out. Uh, there was this.

1441
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: It was established earlier that our lead demon here has

1442
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: like frozen would be heroes in a state of undeath. Yeah,

1443
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: the temple and they can be brought back to life

1444
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: by removing their needles, and when they come back to life,

1445
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 1: they are essentially jung shi. They are the hopping vampires,

1446
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: so without all the rules of hopping vampires, but they

1447
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: are moving like hopping vampires in these sequences.

1448
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 3: Right, So there's that going on. There's just a lot

1449
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 3: of tremendous fighting in this final showdown. There's the Witch

1450
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 3: who's using her spider and cobweb powers, and then there's

1451
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 3: also a big twist slash identity revealed that is then

1452
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 3: double twisted and undermined if I understood correctly, yes, sort of,

1453
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 3: so like the Red Devil, they get his mask off

1454
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 3: and he reveals his identity and oh no, it is

1455
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 3: Master Lee's father.

1456
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 1: Bump bump bum bum bum bomb.

1457
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 3: And he's like, I wanted the white gen sen Root

1458
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 3: so that we could rule over the world, and you know,

1459
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 3: you and I as father and son, we could rule

1460
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 3: the galaxy his father and son. But then I think

1461
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 3: Master two walks in and is like, no, he's not

1462
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 3: actually your father. He's just a shape shifter who can

1463
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 3: look like anyone.

1464
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: Bump bump bomb. She just like strolls out from behind

1465
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: a pillar and tells everybody this, Oh.

1466
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 3: It's so good. Yeah, and of course the good guys

1467
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 3: win in the end, and yeah, I loved Wolf Devil Woman.

1468
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: It kind of comes to an abrupt end though after

1469
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: that it's just kind of like, okay, forces of evil

1470
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: or defeat it and that's it. Everybody can go home.

1471
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not clear what's happening to Wolf Woman at

1472
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 3: the end, Like they defeat the Devil. Oh, and Master

1473
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 3: Chew reveals that he was his evil brother, I think,

1474
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 3: and that he killed Lee's father and then turned to

1475
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 3: look like him. But anyway, they defeat the Devil. Devil

1476
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 3: turns to ash. But we were told earlier by Master

1477
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 3: Chew that it would take all of Snowflower's magical gin

1478
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 3: sen strength to defeat the devil, and then after the conflict,

1479
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 3: she would wither and die. And now here we are

1480
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 3: after the conflicts. They have defeated the devil and wolf

1481
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 3: Woman is shown to be woozy and reeling and Lee

1482
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 3: goes to kind of steady her, and I guess we're

1483
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 3: supposed to be in suspense, like, oh, is she gonna

1484
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 3: be okay? But we don't find out. They just cut

1485
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 3: to the end, So no resolution on what happens to

1486
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 3: Wolf Woman. I do wish there was a happy epilogue.

1487
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 3: I wanted to see them going to restaurants again, all

1488
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,799
Speaker 3: four of the heroes going to restaurants together.

1489
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: That would have been good, Like see if she has

1490
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 1: really learned how to use chopsticks yet or if she's

1491
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: just gonna, you know, end up eating the fish with

1492
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: their hands again.

1493
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 3: More more wolf Woman eating too many boiled eggs and

1494
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:31,839
Speaker 3: drinking too much wine.

1495
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, that is Wolf Devil Woman. Quite a picture.

1496
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 1: Never a dull moment. This is This is not one

1497
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 1: that is a slog to watch by any stretch of

1498
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: the imagination.

1499
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 3: Hats off to Pearl Chang. I love it.

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01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, we're gonna go ahead and close

1501
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: up this episode of Weird House Cinema, but we would

1502
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: love to hear from everyone out there. Are you a

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Speaker 1: fan of Wolf Devil Woman? Do you have additional context

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Speaker 1: to share regarding Wolf Deevil Woman and Taiwanese Cinema. Do

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Speaker 1: you have a personal history with this film or did

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Speaker 1: you watch it for the first time after hearing us

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Speaker 1: bringing it and bring it up. If so, maybe you

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Speaker 1: have some thoughts as well. Anything's fair game, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you want to talk about right into us, talk

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Speaker 1: about past episodes of Weird House Cinema, movies we covered,

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Speaker 1: ages back, movies we just covered, as well as movies

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Speaker 1: we might potentially cover in the future. We're always open

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Speaker 1: for suggestions, and those suggestions can come sometimes, you know,

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Speaker 1: push things up on our possible list of future episodes.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, keep it coming. We'd love to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: And if you do want to see what we've covered

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Speaker 1: over to letterbox dot com. It's l E T T

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Speaker 1: E r box d dot com, which is in general

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Speaker 1: just a really cool sort of social media site for

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Speaker 1: reviewing films and tracking films and putting films on lists

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Speaker 1: and to watch lists and all while we are on there.

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Speaker 1: Our username is weird House and we have a singular

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Speaker 1: list there of all the movies we've covered so far,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes there's a peak ahead of what we're covering

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Speaker 1: in the next week or two.

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Speaker 3: Huge Thing access always to our excellent audio producer JJ Posway.

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Speaker 3: If you would like to get in touch with us

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Speaker 3: with feedback on this episode or any other, to suggest

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Speaker 3: a topic for the future, or just to say hello,

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Speaker 3: you can email us at contact at stuff to Blow

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