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Speaker 2: Wow. Good morning Sweeorld and welcome to the Nodunks podcast

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, January twentieth, sum j

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Speaker 2: skeets rolling this morning with the bass Master ripping them lips,

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Speaker 2: Trey Herbie. Hey, heyo. We got the international man of

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Speaker 2: mystery taking it to the max le Ellis friend lely last,

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Speaker 2: but not least making the magic happen. It's Jad, Hello Darius,

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Speaker 2: and here we are. Shout out to the stream team,

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Speaker 2: joining us live right now on YouTube. Like comment, subscribe,

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Speaker 2: grow the brand, be the brand, Make sure you check

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Speaker 2: out tasks is what you need to know. Mini recaps

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Speaker 2: drop in Monday through Friday. You had a fun one

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Speaker 2: this morning, talked a little bit about the games from

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Speaker 2: last night, and then picked his presidential cabinet made up

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Speaker 2: entirely of NBA players. A little spoiler, Chris Paul is

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Speaker 2: going to be a busy guy in that cabinet. Oh

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Speaker 2: my goodness. I think Task game like eight Jobs. It's incredible.

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Speaker 2: Tray's hilarious weekly NBA recap dropped yesterday. You and JD

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Speaker 2: knocked this one out of the park, so go check

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Speaker 2: that out as well on YouTube. We get the post

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Speaker 2: those on Tuesday night, the seven Days in the NBA,

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Speaker 2: and they are a lot of fun. I was I

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Speaker 2: was howling at the end. I know you were too,

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Speaker 2: Lee with the was that Kenny Maller that slip?

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Speaker 1: That's a reality to the end video. I think, yes,

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Speaker 1: that is so good.

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Speaker 3: It's all about retention, all about that watch time down

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Speaker 3: for Kenny.

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Speaker 2: That's what the people want to see. It's very, very funny.

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Speaker 2: That was my favorite one yet, So kudos to Trey

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Speaker 2: and JD for incredible work on that one. Go check

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Speaker 2: those out. There are a lot of fun. All right,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be stepping on the beach a little bit

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Speaker 2: later today. You can join us live at three pm

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Speaker 2: sand between your toes and hear us answer your questions

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Speaker 2: and comments and then, oh my goodness, what a day.

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Speaker 2: Poor JD. Keep your eyes and your ears peeled for

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Speaker 2: a Lee Ellis Bonus podcast pretty late tonight, you know,

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Speaker 2: super late here on a Wednesday, our Rozsie is talking

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Speaker 2: to another Ozzie, a basketball legend, Shane Heel the Hammas,

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Speaker 2: the Hammer. He played a Hammer. He played like fifty

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Speaker 2: ish games in the NBA. I know, he played like

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Speaker 2: half a season for the Wolves in the nineties and

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Speaker 2: But most famous, of course, we're being an Australian basketball

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Speaker 2: ninety six. Is that right?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely did. Yeah, Hamma was lighting up the Dream Team

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Speaker 3: Is he the only five ft ten man who is

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Speaker 2: Did this guy even have a dunk in the NBA? No?

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Speaker 2: But hey, why is he called the hammer? Do you know?

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Speaker 1: Because he's the hammer?

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Speaker 2: to ten and never have him dumped? You know, Gilliam, why.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going team Skeatzy, And I just got to

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Speaker 2: Good stuff from the Grizzlies. That's a great pick. I

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Speaker 2: So that's a great pick the Grizzlies. Lee, who do

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Speaker 1: Well, just before the season started, I think I made

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Speaker 2: The sexlent T shirt? Where'd you get that?

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Speaker 3: So you're just strolling around the house, I mean, can

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at the very least, the Eastern Conference playing tournament

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Speaker 2: He puts on that hard hat.

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Speaker 3: would be terrible to play against Demonta Sabonis just because

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Speaker 3: The biggest disappointment so far for me is the Sacramento Kings,

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Speaker 3: probably run off an eight and five stretch and get

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00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,600
Speaker 3: you a little bit excited to the point where you

431
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:07,760
Speaker 3: get let down once again.

432
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. You just can never get excited

433
00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,360
Speaker 2: about the Kings. I told you guys the other day,

434
00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,560
Speaker 2: it's like next season. When I start getting excited about

435
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,720
Speaker 2: the Kings, don't let me say no, they're not They're

436
00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 2: they're the Kings. They're not gonna make the playoffs. They're

437
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 2: gonna fall apart some drama, some stupid drama's gonna happen.

438
00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,360
Speaker 2: It won't help. So yeah, now it's a great, great

439
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,760
Speaker 2: pick because I was excited about them. I obviously love Fox,

440
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 2: and they still stick. I can't believe with those guys

441
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,880
Speaker 2: that you listed too are a trade that like those

442
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,160
Speaker 2: are like athletic, you know, you know, in a lot

443
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 2: of cases, young guys that you think could get at it,

444
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 2: Like why are the Calves number two in defense? And

445
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,440
Speaker 2: the Kings are like some of the worst defense you

446
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,920
Speaker 2: ever see, Like, what come on, it's not the person now,

447
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 2: It's not like you know, it's not like you're playing

448
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 2: that old ice hockey game and you've got all the skinny,

449
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 2: fast guys and I got all the big, fat guys

450
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,199
Speaker 2: and you're just running laps around me. You're skating, you know,

451
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 2: circles around me. It's like this doesn't make any sense. So, like,

452
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 2: what's going on? So very disappointing.

453
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,360
Speaker 3: They do have a lot of skinny guys, though, when

454
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 3: you're really thinking about the team, there's not a lot.

455
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,120
Speaker 2: Of beef inside.

456
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 3: And it's like it feels like a parade to the

457
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 3: rim at all times when you're playing against the king.

458
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 3: So like Rashaun Holmes, he's great, he's great at catching lobs,

459
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 3: he's great on offensive rebounds. But he's still not a

460
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 3: huge guy, right, He's still getting by on this athleticism

461
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 3: and effort rather than just being huge. Maybe they just

462
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 3: need a big, huge guy. Somebody called machines the beat.

463
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, honestly, you're right at like when it's

464
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 2: a parade for the other team, when it's a parade

465
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 2: to the to the rim, just lay up after a layup,

466
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,640
Speaker 2: it's like, well, who's that on? Then? I mean it's

467
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,919
Speaker 2: on two things, right, It's like, hey, guards stay in

468
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 2: front of somebody, try to, you know, move your feet

469
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 2: a little bit. And then yeah, it also helps if

470
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 2: you have somebody at the rim who can at least

471
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 2: put a little fear into the to the offensive player

472
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 2: and make things difficult like they could use like before

473
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 2: obviously the hand injury here, like a Miles Turner even

474
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 2: who's like just blocking at a ridiculous pace right now,

475
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 2: like somebody to at least threaten back there. But bad

476
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 2: on both accounts. Okay, Kings are a good one. Lee,

477
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 2: Who do you got for a disappointment?

478
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: Well, very close to home, the Atlanta Hawks. Things started

479
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: off really well at four and one, and I was

480
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, maybe all those offseason moves and Trey

481
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: Young's taking a step up, and then all of a sudden,

482
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: things the wheels came off very quickly here for the Hawks.

483
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: Part of it to do with a little bit of

484
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 1: internal strife there between John Collins and Trey Young. But

485
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: ultimately the Hawks their competitive business that they showed in

486
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: the first five games, it's just not there at the moment.

487
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 1: I hope it comes back because I think this could

488
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: also be a sort of similar situation to the Kings,

489
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 1: where it's like this team could look very different by

490
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 1: the end of this season. If they don't sort of

491
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 1: get back on track here soon, there could be a

492
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 1: coaching change and there could also be some personnel moves

493
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: as well. I think because this was the season we

494
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: were hoping and expecting to see, you know, some real

495
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 1: potential and some real stability with that team, but instead

496
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem to quite be there. They're kind

497
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 1: of middle of the road offense, middle of the road defense.

498
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: They can't close out teams. They've had a few bad losses.

499
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 1: They've had some good wins, but again most of those

500
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 1: came at the start. The best one, of course, over

501
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets there around New Year's Day, I think

502
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,400
Speaker 1: it was. But other than that, you know, they've really

503
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: sort of stunk it up, and I just wonder what

504
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: is going on there and what will happen. Will they

505
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: either shake off this little stuff that's been going on

506
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 1: in the locker room or will someone have to move

507
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: from it because they lost four in a row, they've

508
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: lost six out of their last eight, and they've got

509
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 1: to get back on track pretty quickly here. You know,

510
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 1: I think some of the young players, DeAndre Hunter, cam

511
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: Redish I think they've been good, but is Lloyd Pierce

512
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 1: going to be Is Lloyd Pierce the long term solution

513
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 1: for this team or just Travish Schlink decided to move

514
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: on from him? And if he does, does he decide

515
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: to do that mid season or wait until the end

516
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: of the season because the Hawks need to be in

517
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: competing for a playoff spot this entire season. I think

518
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,959
Speaker 1: otherwise it's a failure. It's a failure. And you know

519
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: Trey Young, he's in his third season now. He can

520
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: obviously sign that huge contract at the end of this

521
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: season going into next season, his rookie extension. I think

522
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 1: he probably does, but he's going to want to see

523
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: some more moves because he doesn't want to be on

524
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: a team that's losing a lot, even though he has

525
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: to take some of the responsibility as well for the

526
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: way they've been playing lately, so few issues year in Atlanta.

527
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: I hopefully can sort them out. I think they've got

528
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: the talent to do it. But as we know, winning

529
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: solves everything and losing makes everything even worse. Than the NBA,

530
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: when it seems in a bit of a rut like this,

531
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: it just can often happen quickly and it again, could

532
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: be the coach, could be some players, not really sure

533
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: exactly what Travis Shlink's gonna do. But things haven't gone

534
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: so well after a very very impressive start.

535
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Trey Young is the only person in

536
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 2: the world that wishes it was still twenty twenty. Yeah,

537
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 2: because he had an incredible twenty twenty this season. Right

538
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: like his first four games, he was averaging like thirty

539
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 2: three and eight and was getting to the line like

540
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen times a game, and then Steve Nash talked

541
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: some shit about him, and his production just fell off

542
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 2: a cliff. In the new year, Young has struggled in

543
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: terms of scoring the ball, shooting from distance, and not

544
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 2: getting into the free throw line as much. So yeah,

545
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: it's I mean, they're like the Kings. Maybe the Hawks.

546
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 2: You just got to ignore them. Yeah, you can't pay

547
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: any attention to them, and maybe they do a bit better.

548
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: But once you start like going, oh, yeah, the Hawks

549
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 2: figured things out, well, then that things when things go wrong.

550
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 3: Hey, the Hawks are sick and seven. They're number ten

551
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: in defense. You know, I think the if the season

552
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 3: ends and the Hawks are a top ten defense and

553
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 3: they're at about five hundred isn't that a huge improvement

554
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 3: this season where we were expecting him to be a

555
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 3: lot better, no doubt about it. But we were expecting

556
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 3: the offense to really be a top five offense and

557
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 3: maybe the defense would be bottom ten. They haven't had

558
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: Bogdanovic for most of the season. They haven't had Gallinary

559
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 3: for most of the season. These are the big moves

560
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 3: they made in the offseason everybody was super excited about.

561
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 3: We haven't really seen him. It's almost the same team

562
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 3: that we saw from the Hawks last year, and they're

563
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 3: clearly better. I mean, they have struggled, no doubt about it.

564
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 3: They were great in twenty twenty.

565
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

566
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 3: I feel like the concern is a little overblown here.

567
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 3: I think the Hawks are doing better than people then

568
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: people should have expected. You know, you bring in a

569
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 3: bunch of veterans, it looks great alongside a young core.

570
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: It doesn't always work like that. Obviously, there have been injuries.

571
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 3: But Trey Young, once he gets back on track, I

572
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 3: think the Hawks are going to be fine.

573
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: I think that was well. The big question is is

574
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: John Collins a part of their future or not, because

575
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: they sort of seem to have hesitated a little bit

576
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: on him him to the big deal, and they didn't,

577
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: so now he enters restricted free agency next season. He's

578
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: a young player. He and Trey Young in theory should

579
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: work together, they should be growing together. But if that's

580
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: if he's not a part of their future, then you know,

581
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: when do they move on from him? Do they trade

582
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: him now or do they wait to the off season,

583
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: or you know what do they do? Because I think

584
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: he's a good player, his value is questionable though he

585
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: expects he wants to be a Max guy and I'm

586
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: not sure that he is. He wants to go out

587
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: and show that this season. He wants more of the ball,

588
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: he wants more opportunities to show that he can do

589
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: it at both ends. So I think that's causing a

590
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: little bit of the problem there between he and Trey

591
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: as well. They're sort of both trying to show that

592
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 1: it's their team, and John Collins is kind of like, well,

593
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: if I'm not a part of this team, I want

594
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: to show other teams what I can do. So they

595
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: need to just figure that out a little bit. I

596
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: think two decide whether or not they move on move

597
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: ahead with John Collins, or they decide maybe we cash

598
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: in on him now while they can.

599
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: A couple other disappointing teams. I could have gone with

600
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: the Heat, but I'm going to give them a pass.

601
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about their injuries and not having

602
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 2: really their full roster and having them played so late

603
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: until last season and all that. I'll give them a pass.

604
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: The Raptors, We've talked enough about them. Look, I don't

605
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 2: think they're happy with their record, but they're getting it

606
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: going slowly here. I think they'll definitely bounce back into being,

607
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: you know what, one of the top six or five

608
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: teams I guess in the Eastern Conference when it's all

609
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: said and done. I think that's that's where they're headed.

610
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 2: And they just got rid of Alex lenn So that's

611
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: good news. Sorry Lenz, but I'm gonna go to the

612
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: Pelicans as my disappointing team. They're five and eight after

613
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: another loss last night, I got a question for you.

614
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 2: I'll throw it at you. First trade. Is this season

615
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: playoffs or bust for the Pelicans? You know, heading into

616
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: this season, did you think that was that was something

617
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: that was true or No? No, certainly not. No.

618
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: They made the move for who did they trade in

619
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 3: the offseason.

620
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: I don't even remember, but Steven Adams was there.

621
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 3: Adams and they have a ton of picks ahead of

622
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: them from the trades with the Lakers, and you know,

623
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 3: you got twenty four games from Zion on last year.

624
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: Yep.

625
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 3: Certainly him coming back was going to be would raise

626
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 3: the expectations for the Pelicans. Brandon Ingram was an All

627
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: Star last season. You expect him to be a little

628
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 3: bit better. And they both had solid performances, but the

629
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 3: Pelicans came out and surrounded those two guys with Steven

630
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: Adams and Eric bledsone. No surprise, they're the worst shooting

631
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: team in the league. It doesn't really make sense when

632
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 3: it happened. But Zion's also still a young man. I

633
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: know he's filled with bulk and made out of refrigerators,

634
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: but he's still got to save some bumps. You know,

635
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 3: in the future, he's going to be a small ball five.

636
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: He's not going to be playing against or next to

637
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: a guy who's a giant and Steven Adams. They'll figure

638
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: out somebody who can shoot from the outside. So I

639
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: would want to see progress from the Pelicans. I would

640
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 3: want to see a fully healthy season from Zion and

641
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 3: you're getting at least the fully healthy season from Zion

642
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: so far. I didn't think it was playoffs or bust,

643
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 3: but certainly they want to be in the tournament.

644
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And that's why I have them as disappointing.

645
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Speaker 2: They play at a ridiculously slow paced Okay, you know,

646
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: twenty fifth in the league. That's fine, but they're below

647
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 2: average on both sides of the ball. So nothing has

648
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: been all that impressive. And you said it there, Trey

649
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: of the calves and knicks. The Pelicans will just take

650
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: and make fewer three pointers than the rest of the league,

651
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 2: and then conversely they just allow the most three pointers

652
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Speaker 2: attempted and made against them. So they just are at

653
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: this huge deficit because of math, I mean, as simple

654
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: as the three ball. They don't take enough or make enough,

655
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: and they give up way too many. The bird rights,

656
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: which is a great Pelicans blog, they noted over the

657
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: last like one to six stretch here one and six

658
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: stretch over the last seven games where they can't win.

659
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: They're getting destroyed from the three point line. Opponents are

660
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: scoring an average of twenty four more points from deep

661
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: the last seven games lately, So that is that's an issue.

662
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: I think Ingram after last night's game addressed it. He's like,

663
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: we got to take more threes. So, you know, stan

664
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Speaker 2: Van and this was a Zion having another great game

665
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: last night, you know, another thirty point performance, and he

666
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: has played well, he's been awesome. But I think that

667
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: the construction of this team is worrisome a little bit

668
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: with they just don't have enough shooters. Lonzo Ball can't

669
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: hit a three. Blood Ce's not, you know, guaranteed to

670
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: hit three point shots. JJ Reddick for some reason has

671
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: gone ice cold, yeah, from distance, and then you know,

672
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: Steven Adams is not like a stretch fire by any

673
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: means when you're pairing him with Zion. So they're disappointing

674
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: in the sense that they're only five and eight and

675
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: that was after actually a little decent start. They've gone

676
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: on this really really cold spell here. But what do

677
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: you think about Pelkans.

678
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think as well. We're expecting Zion Williamson

679
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: to just really start to dominate and take over games,

680
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: and he's putting up some okay, well you know, good

681
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: numbers in fact, but it's not really impacting the bottom line.

682
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: They're still losing and they're still too.

683
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: He's horrible, horribly defensively.

684
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I mean. Their defense is just is

685
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: just not good enough. But yeah, when they made the

686
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: trade for Eric Ledsoe, obviously giving up Drew Holiday, that

687
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: was more about the future for David Griffin. So you know,

688
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: he's probably trying to buy himself a little bit of

689
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: time here and again just in the way that we

690
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: are right now. Like in the business of the NBA,

691
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: you have to always win and make sure you're impressing

692
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: these young players so that you can convince them to

693
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: stay on because Zion only in his second season and

694
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: he missed most of his first. But you know that

695
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: if the Pelicans don't make the playoffs again this year,

696
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: then people will start saying, oh, he's going to the Lakers.

697
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: He's gone. You know, he's going to join somebody else.

698
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: So this is not playoffs or bus but but it's

699
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: more about again being in contention at least late into

700
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Speaker 1: the season. You know that the Pelicans don't want to

701
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: be like they'd be written off in a couple of

702
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: weeks that they can't even make the playoffs. They've got

703
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: to improve, for sure, but they've got a few questions

704
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: as well, like jj Reddick. You know, I think obviously

705
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: this is probably his last season with the Pelicans because

706
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: his timeline doesn't fit theirs and Lonzo balls the other one.

707
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Speaker 1: Is he a part of their future? They could have

708
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Speaker 1: signed him to a contract in the off season, David

709
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Speaker 1: Griffin chose not to. They did sign Brandon Ingram, who

710
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Speaker 1: clearly was a standout last season. He's a he's a

711
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Speaker 1: part of their future. So they need to find who

712
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Speaker 1: is going to be their point guard. Is it led Sooe?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Is it Lonso? I don't think

714
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: so as well. So, so you know.

715
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Speaker 2: What you do, hand the keys over to you know,

716
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: to gnaw Kira Lewis right, was their draft pick?

717
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Speaker 1: Yeah, point So you think that David Griffin is probably

718
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: starting to figure out some sort of you know plan

719
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Speaker 1: going forward. What do we do? Do we try to

720
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Speaker 1: trade for a better point guard who's a little bit

721
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Speaker 1: timeline suits more of what these guys are. He's got

722
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Speaker 1: those draft picks, now, he's got those ass Maybe that's

723
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: what he does. But the Pelicans certainly defensively not too

724
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: dissimilar to the Kings as far as team score pretty

725
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: easily on them. And I need to improve in that.

726
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Speaker 2: Area for sure. All right, this next one's fun. One

727
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: month in. What's a prediction you would love to have back?

728
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: We obviously did our season previous shows at the start

729
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: of the season. Did five of them been total? Made

730
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Speaker 2: a lot of predictions? TK, which one one month in?

731
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Speaker 2: Now that you're just like h man, give me a

732
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: mulligan on that one.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think I botched every single one of my

734
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: award picks, okay, but mostly I don't think Luka Doncic

735
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: is gonna win MVP. It's not necessary necessarily how he's playing.

736
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Speaker 3: He struggled in December out of the gate. It didn't

737
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: look like he was totally in shape, but he's rounding

738
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: into shape now. He's been awesome in January. Twenty nine

739
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: points a game, twelve rebounds, eleven assists, he's shooting forty

740
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: seven percent from the field, thirty five from three. Those

741
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: would be MVP numbers over the course of the season.

742
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Speaker 3: I just don't think the Mavericks are going to win

743
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: enough games to really knock guys like Lebron and Kevin

744
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: DT off the pedestal.

745
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: Here.

746
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: Those seem to be the leaders for MVP for me

747
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: right now, maybe you would have him bet in the

748
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: mix as well, depending on how deep you want to go.

749
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Speaker 3: But Doantich has been good. He just hasn't necessarily been

750
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: MVP elite level good. Right now, especially from a wins standpoint,

751
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: you know clearly the Lakers and Nets are going to

752
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: end up with better records than the Mavericks will. So

753
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: give me a mulligan on Luca. He's been good, but

754
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: not MVP good.

755
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: Fair enough, Lee what he got for a prediction you'd like?

756
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 2: Back well?

757
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: Coming into the season, I envisioned a scenario where Andrew

758
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: Wiggins could lead the Golden State Warriors in scoring. I somehow,

759
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how he does it with these is

760
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: He's got a great sales team out there for Wiggins Island,

761
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: because no matter how bad the year was before that,

762
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: it's like someone just rings up that phone, rings you up,

763
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: and they're very convincing in their sales pitching, like sure,

764
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll give you my money. Now. Wiggins hasn't

765
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: been terrible. He's been kind of Wiggins. You know, a

766
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: couple of good games, a couple of ordinary games, a

767
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: couple of games he has four blocks and you're like,

768
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: oh my god, he's playing defense as well, some big

769
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: threes and then he just kind of just goes missing

770
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 1: for a couple of games. But right now, Steph Curry,

771
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: he's leading the team in scoring by it has a

772
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Speaker 1: double digit lead.

773
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Speaker 2: Over what a shark. I mean, that was one of

774
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: the predictions we've ever met. I mean, look, it would

775
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: have been a fine prediction if you're like, Wiggins will contribute,

776
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: he'll be a great player for the Worlds. But no,

777
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: you had to like go to the point of like

778
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: he will outscore maybe one of the greatest scorers we've

779
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: received in history and Steph Curry.

780
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Speaker 1: My reasoning behind it was that Steph Curry was going

781
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: to get more attention because we knew Klay Thompson was out.

782
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: Wiggins is athletic, he's fast. All he has to do

783
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: is finish around the rim. And that first game, remember

784
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: remember that game against the Bucks or was it the Bucks?

785
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: I can't remember his first I think it was No,

786
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: it was the Nets and he went like zero for

787
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 1: five in the first quarter miss Layups turned the ball over.

788
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my god, but you couldn't

789
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: even leave him in scoring in the first quarter of

790
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: the first game.

791
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: But he's played well, I mean Wiggins is actually if

792
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: you take a step back and take your prediction down

793
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: from he'll lead the team in scoring to he'll contribute.

794
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: I think he's actually playing decently well for this.

795
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 1: He's picked it up a little bit. He certainly those

796
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: first few games were rough as anything, but he can

797
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: It's like, what is the expectations of him? And I

798
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: think now we've taken him down from being like a

799
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: franchise changer to just like, can you contribute on a

800
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: team at both ends?

801
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: And the expectation says, can you be Harrison Barones for

802
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: us the Warriors? Can you do that? I think you can?

803
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he does at times. There are still times

804
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: where he's just he seems like he's sleep walking through

805
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: the game. But yeah, look, you know sometimes you know

806
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: you just have to you're making prediction. You talk yourself

807
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: into it. You think I'm going to sell this to

808
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: the guys. I wonder if I'll get anyone on board.

809
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: Now it's just the start, rightfully, so, but listen, you

810
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: you just gotta dust yourself off and get back up

811
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: there and make another crazy prediction. One of them will

812
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: come off.

813
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 2: Sure, that's right. You gotta throw those dirks man one

814
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: of them. Well, a prediction I'd love to have back

815
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: was my infatuation with the Blazers heading in this season.

816
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 2: Like you talk about MVP picks, Tray, I went with Lillard. Now, again,

817
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: his numbers are there, they're impressive, but you got to

818
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: have some victories with your squad to really get in

819
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: that MVP conversation. And you know, I took load because

820
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: I thought a big part of that hinged on the

821
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: Blazers maybe cracking the top three in the West, and

822
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: a big part of that hinged on an improved defense.

823
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: And it just hasn't happened. In fact, it's almost identical

824
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: the last year's defense. It's brutal. The Blazers can't stop

825
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: anyone one hundred and fourteen ish defensive rating bottom three

826
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: or four in the league. Again, there's just very little resistance.

827
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: You know, you can they're easy to pass against. You'll

828
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: get open looks. They don't have a ton of interior

829
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 2: defense if you want to get in there and slice

830
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 2: them up inside. So it's bad. And I thought, I thought,

831
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: you know, i'd talked myself into you know, Covington as

832
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: a three and D guy making a big difference on

833
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 2: the wing and I liked the Derrek Jones junior signing

834
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: two years, nineteen million. I thought he gave him, of course,

835
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: some athleticism on the wing. They re signed Rodney Hood,

836
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: who was injured. They replaced Whiteside with Canter. It's like, okay,

837
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 2: that's a bit of a wash. That's probably even better.

838
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: I'd rather have Canter at least off Busley. But you know,

839
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: it hasn't gone according to my plan. They're fine, Like

840
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: the Blazers are going to be a playoff team. I

841
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: think we all agree with that, but I thought they

842
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: maybe would push into like sort of that upper echelon

843
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: top three. And I still you still have them in

844
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,959
Speaker 2: a where do you have them a Tier two maybe

845
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: even borderline Tier three like championship contender. They're good, but

846
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: they're not great. And of course all these injuries now

847
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: don't help with Nurkic. I guess they're saying, now he's

848
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: out six weeks, we are and we got McCallum out

849
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 2: for at least four weeks. Like it sucks. So I'm sorry.

850
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: I got too excited about the Blazers and I went

851
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 2: all in. I pushed Alma chips in on a Lillard

852
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: MVP because the Blazers are going to be like one

853
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: of these elite teams and they're just they're just not

854
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: because you got to stop You got to stop teams

855
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 2: at some point from scoring to win some of these games.

856
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: Well, with Nurkic and McCallum out, maybe uh Dame can

857
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: make a little run at the MVP here. You know,

858
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 3: he's really going to have to put the team on

859
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: his back if the Blazers are going to stay afloat

860
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: and even stay in the Western Conference playoff picture. But Skates,

861
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: I felt bad for you with this Blazers pick because

862
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: you were talking up there defense and these new guys

863
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 3: they brought in feels like they keep shuffling in these

864
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: versatile wings at the three and four spots, but the one, two,

865
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 3: and five stay the same. Something's not adding up here.

866
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: But when the news broke that the Blazers had brought

867
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: in Jim Boylan to coach the defense, I knew it

868
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna work.

869
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that was a bad side one. You know,

870
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: I thought Lee was gonna say, maybe Gary Trent Junior

871
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: would lead the Blazers in scoring this year. With all

872
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 2: the attention focused on.

873
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: Little he might Now maybe who knows, all.

874
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: Right, So I got Blazers, we got Wiggins, we got

875
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 2: Luca in the mixed there as a prediction. Mulligan's final

876
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: one here one month in. This is a fun one.

877
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: What's been your play of the season so far? What

878
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: do you got?

879
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: Trey Well Andrew Wiggins sidekick Steph Curry went for a

880
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: career high sixty two and his shot his last three pointer.

881
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: It was number eight on the night. I just thought

882
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 3: that was such a joyous moment because you could see

883
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 3: Draymond instantly transporting back to twenty fifteen. He's saying, I'm

884
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: getting this assist. He charges up the left wing. You

885
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: know what's going to Steph Curry. Everybody knows it's going

886
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: to Steph Curry. This happened against the Blazers, so of

887
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: course he got a good shot, still got fouled. Didn't

888
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: call it. He's getting knocked down, he gets up, He's

889
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 3: running back down the court doing the Jason Terry arms out.

890
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 3: Watching Steph Cook is still one of the most joyful

891
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: experiences in the NBA. You know, the Warriors motto this

892
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: year is joy in buckets, and I just love it

893
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: because they're basically saying We're not sure we're gonna be

894
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: great this year, but we still got Steph Curry and

895
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: it's gonna be awesome when he's on fire. He's been

896
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 3: having these types of performances for the last half decade,

897
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: but after the injury last year, after the Warriors struggled

898
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: out of the gate, Steph sixty two that night. That

899
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: felt like the first time it had happened again.

900
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: It was awesome.

901
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 2: Yep, sixty two, of course, Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong.

902
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,959
Speaker 2: That's still the season high for anybody in the league

903
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: this year.

904
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: So I bil had I think that's sixty You had

905
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: sixty Yeah against the Sixers.

906
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't even fifty seven and three quarter. I'm

907
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: not mistaken.

908
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Wizards haven't played for me three months.

909
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe that's why the Wizards were a team. Yeah,

910
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: they were still around. Okay, that's a good one. Curriged

911
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: sixty two. That was special. What do you got Lee

912
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: as a player of the season.

913
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: Mine came in last night finally, because we've been waiting

914
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: for Fundo Kompasso to really light us up at the

915
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: NBA highlights and look at this one here last night,

916
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: the fast break behind himself between the legs the Monte

917
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: Morris for a gorgeous layup.

918
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: This is just look at him, look at him?

919
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: Just whoa like that beautiful and then whoa gorgeous, gorgeous

920
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: finish there? What a clever he really is.

921
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: Okay, you saved it because this is the moment of

922
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: the sails and I could do it.

923
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: Come on, where was the last time you've ever seen that?

924
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: When we ever seen that in a fast break from

925
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: a guy?

926
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I can't think.

927
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: Of what he's to player with a guy named Sebastian Oros,

928
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: who did that pass on a fast break all the time?

929
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: Sebastian Oros not your son. He looked in Aurora, Illinois

930
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: a solid pickup player.

931
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: But come on, right, go on, that was gorgeous because

932
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: again when he came we were expecting to see some

933
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: incredible stuff from him. He had that little like reverse

934
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: spin pass. I think that was in a preseason game.

935
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: It hasn't had a lot of minutes. But when he's

936
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: out there, man, he's exciting to watch the same with Boo,

937
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: I want to see a little bit more bold ball.

938
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: He had a nice dunk last night, but he was

939
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: in the blowout. Yeah, it was in the blowout. But

940
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: now gets are fun to watch, even though got man

941
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray is struggling right now.

942
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: Okay, your player of the season was Compazzo dropping it

943
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: between his legs last night. What was in the lead

944
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: before that? Now, I'm fascinated.

945
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: The night before when Steph Curry had that crossover of

946
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis where he undressed memory. Yeah, live in the moment, man,

947
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: Live in the moment, I say, where at the moment?

948
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: Shout out to breaking tea. Okay, my play of the season.

949
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: I was good to go, actually, believe it or not,

950
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: with like a Miles Bridges dunk and I couldn't pick

951
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: which one because he has like three or four. I

952
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: guess the Hornets is a team have like three or

953
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: four huge dunks this here against the Raptors, like all

954
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: of them, even though they all came in losses. You

955
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: talk about recently, Bridges, did you see that one lee

956
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: where he threw down that nasty, like two handed like

957
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: cockback dunk on Bouchet. Yeah, that was nuts, Like you

958
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: don't see that. He put it like behind his back,

959
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: It tapped his back shoulder blades like he's Latrell Spreewell.

960
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: And then dunked it on, so that was huge.

961
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: That was the Lamello Bowl pas. I think, yeah, that's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man,

962
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: I put that one up. That was great.

963
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: Geez, sorry Worldwide Water. Then I didn't realize you're all

964
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: over that one. I wasn't following you that night that

965
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: closely on Twitter. But I just want to show loves

966
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: to Bridges, who has some huge dunks is here, but

967
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go with not a dunk as

968
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: my player of the season so far. I think it

969
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: has to be Lebron's no look three pointer versus the

970
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 2: Rockets where he's taking a mid game bet with Dennis

971
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: Shrewder and of course shoots it and turns around. You

972
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: gotta look a man in the eyes to make the

973
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: bet and then it drops and that basically broke the Rockets, right.

974
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: That was the game where herd I'm afterwards is like,

975
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: get me the hell out of here, like I'm done,

976
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: this is crazy, and uh yeah. It just sort of

977
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: perfectly encapsulates the Lakers season two. Because we've talked a lot.

978
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: I know you have as well, Tray like about just

979
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: the Lakers coasting. I mean, like you're joking. I saw

980
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 2: with Lebron basically is wearing a robe from the first

981
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: three quarters and then sometimes takes it off and takes

982
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: over late down the stretch. So Lebron with the Steph

983
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: Curry like no Look three in the corner, and we said,

984
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 2: maybe it's the best one ever too, like in terms

985
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: of straight up turning around and not running back like

986
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: Curry's done before, where he's looking at fans and stuff

987
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: like that. So I'll go Lebron's No Look three. But

988
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: that's a fun question for everybody in the stream team,

989
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: for everyone listening to the podcast later you can tweet

990
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: at us play of this season so far? What do

991
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 2: you have for that one? As I was going through

992
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 2: a bunch of the you know, highlights from this year,

993
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: I was like, there's been some big dunks, don't be wrong,

994
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: big some big plays.

995
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: You know.

996
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: Zion dunk for crying a out was pretty damn huge.

997
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: But I couldn't I couldn't zero in on one. So

998
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: I think that Lebron for me stands out.

999
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 3: It's definitely Lebron. I mean, Lee picked a terrible play

1000
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 3: for his favorite play.

1001
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: I picked a good one.

1002
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 3: But when you see a Lebron highlight, that's actually gonna

1003
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 3: go on Lebron's career highlight reel at this point. It's

1004
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 3: pretty special. It's like, remember how hype we were when

1005
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: he did that pass where he looked away and threw

1006
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 3: it to Antie's Zizich underneath the hoop, a one hander.

1007
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 3: When you see plays like this that you haven't seen

1008
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 3: from Lebron, it's different, right because we've seen this guy

1009
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: make every single play on a basketball court. But when

1010
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: in year twenty five he pulls out something new, you're like,

1011
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: come on, this guy can do it all.

1012
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 2: You can't.

1013
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: Next time, whenever we do play pickup ball tray, I'm

1014
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: gonna do the Fundo pass to you, and I want

1015
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: you to do it to me as well, just to

1016
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: see how difficult it is at high speed.

1017
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I love it. Well.

1018
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: Just every time down the court will go between our

1019
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: legs behind our back. It'll be like a what's that

1020
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: game where you jump over each other? What's that called

1021
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: leap frog? Leap frog? Leap frog?

1022
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: That's a leap frog pass right there, Let's try it.

1023
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: It was a nice pass. I don't think it was

1024
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: the play of the season.

1025
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: Man, it was beautiful. It was beautiful.

1026
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's hear from you guys. Like I said,

1027
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: let us know in the stream team again, tweet at

1028
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: us at no dunk sink for all of these questions

1029
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: one month in. That was a lot of fun, all right.

1030
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: Let's quickly though, get to some of the games from

1031
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: last night. There was only two on Jokich scores twenty

1032
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: seven and three quarters as the Nuggets killed with thunder

1033
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: one nineteen one on one tray. You got to take

1034
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: away from this one.

1035
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, watch out when Nikola Jokic gets a haircut. He

1036
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: looked great last night, twenty seven, twelve and six. He

1037
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: was twelve of twenty one from the field. I saw

1038
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: him do a chin up on the rim after a dunk.

1039
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: Obviously he was feeling good. No Al Horford for the thunder,

1040
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: so honestly, really no chance against Jokic. Inside it was

1041
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 3: Isaiah Roby, a man who I have no choice but

1042
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: to stand. He comes from a tiny school in Illinois,

1043
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 3: but he's not ready to guard an MVP candidate in

1044
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 3: Nikola Jokic, who was just putting him in the basket.

1045
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: Then they go to their bench and it's Mike Muskala,

1046
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: not any better Jokic is a load to handle down low.

1047
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 3: We talk about beef inside. That man is beefed up

1048
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: and he knows how to use it. He was just

1049
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: throwing his body around getting easy buckets, easy win for

1050
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 3: the Nuggets.

1051
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: Roby Man, that guy looks he's twenty two. I think

1052
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: he looks twelve. Such a youthful face. It's crazy. Do

1053
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: you like Lee the buzz cut? You'll get your need

1054
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: to like him with a little hare. What's your take on that?

1055
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: Because trees ready shot up with it? You know, a

1056
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: fresh hair last night? Yeah, I mean he doesn't.

1057
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: It's never really sort of changed his hair, stole around

1058
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: too much. Has he likes but.

1059
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: He had it grown out a little bit.

1060
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would.

1061
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: I would like.

1062
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: Look, I'm rocking the mullet these days, so I would

1063
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: love him too. I would love him to bring that out.

1064
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: I think he could rock it nicely, but it just

1065
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: takes what ten months to grow it, I think. Yeah.

1066
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1067
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: This game though, was Yeah, it was a bit of

1068
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: a tough one because the Nuggets got out pretty early

1069
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: in this one, and the Thunder again without Al Horford

1070
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: out there, really had a big hole in the middle.

1071
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: But Jamal Murray, you had the first basket of the game,

1072
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: a dunk. How many baskets did he score after that?

1073
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: Well, they're looking. I mean it's probably two or something. One.

1074
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not sure what's going on with him at

1075
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: the moment. Not sure.

1076
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: You're starting to hear the buzz of trade Jamal Murray

1077
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: for Bill.

1078
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: Oh, oh, no, don't do that. But the other night,

1079
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: the other night, why not?

1080
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: Why yeah?

1081
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: No, No, let's not panic on Jamal Murray just yet.

1082
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: He's he's fine.

1083
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: I think him and I love Jamal Ury. But you're

1084
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: telling me if you're the Nuggets, like, let's see a hypothetical,

1085
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: we'll treat you Jamal Murray for Browley Bill. Straight up,

1086
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: you wouldn't do that.

1087
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: Just just hold on. I'd hold on for now. I'd

1088
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: let Jamal Murray ride out this right out this rough

1089
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: streak that he's going on right now. Because the other

1090
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: night in the first half he had like twenty four points.

1091
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: It was like, hey, he's back. I think he's got

1092
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: three points in the second half. He just can't, like,

1093
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: like I said, down in Bubble, he was putting up

1094
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: fifties without even looking, and now he just can't get

1095
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: into that rhythm for some reason. I'm not sure why,

1096
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, first player of the game done. You're like, okay,

1097
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: that's what he needs that that little loosener and that

1098
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: was it. After that sort of struggled, so just can't

1099
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: He's just not there's no juice to his game at

1100
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: the moment. It'll come back, though, Okay, all right.

1101
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: He still believes he's not trading Jamal Murray for Browley

1102
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: Bill actually shocked by that lately, especially you as a

1103
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: Beal fan.

1104
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I would like to see. Yeah, the Nuggets

1105
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: would be a good team. I'm just not ready to

1106
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: give up if I'm the Nuggets on Jamal Murray just yet.

1107
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: He's sharing what he can do in the playoffs, and

1108
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: that to me.

1109
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 2: Is fair, absolutely fair. Yeah, not much else from this one.

1110
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 2: And Trey, what do you think about the Yokich buzz cut?

1111
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: You're more of a fan when he looks like that,

1112
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: when he streamlined like he's gonna go swimming.

1113
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 3: I just like the way he generally carries himself with

1114
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: regards to haircuts. He's like, I'm getting a haircut a month,

1115
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: deal with it, right, and I'm getting my haircut. I

1116
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: guess January nineteenth next time will be February nineteenth.

1117
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: In between you'll get some flops. That's fine. Yeah, okay.

1118
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: The other game from last night, pretty similar score. Actually,

1119
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell scored twenty eight as the Jazz beat the Pelicans.

1120
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: We talked about him a little bit as a disappointing

1121
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: team one eighteen one oh two. Now I just want

1122
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: to point this out ESPN, the disrespect to the Utah Jazz,

1123
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: who's won six straight. One of the hottest teams in

1124
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: the league, you know, one of the best records in

1125
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: the league. This is what they have on the NBA

1126
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 2: front page on ESPN this morning. You see the score there, okay,

1127
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: Jazz one eighteen one on two, and then you got

1128
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: the highlights, just straight up photo of Zion and okay,

1129
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 2: second straight thirty point game. Good for Zion. Come on,

1130
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: where's the Jazz love? The disrespect is real, but the

1131
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: Jazz are in all honesty, uh, playing really well right now,

1132
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: that was the type of win you really want to

1133
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: see from the Utah Jazz last night. Donovan Mitchell is

1134
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: your leading scorer with twenty eight. Okay, great, he had

1135
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: a better pass than Compozzo there last night four with

1136
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: the twopid wrap up, right, but that one where you

1137
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 2: wrap you got into the paint and then wrap around

1138
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: that pass out to Boyon for three. The only thing

1139
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: I didn't like about to play is boy On dribbled. Yeah,

1140
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: he's the only thing. It just like ruins the playof

1141
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: a little bit. But you knock it down so it

1142
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. What a pass though, My god. Jordan Clarkson

1143
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: continued his hot shooting start. Eighteen points off the bench,

1144
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: six boards, six assists, that's great, Ingles fifteen points all

1145
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: of them three pointers, that's huge. Gobaar did his thing,

1146
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 2: man in the middle thirteen eighteen boards, three blocks. The

1147
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: Jazz right now have six rotation guys shooting over thirty

1148
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 2: eight percent from three six guys. Royce O'Neil is forty

1149
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: five percent on four to three point attempts, Clarkston's forty

1150
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: three percent on way more attempts, Ingles forty one point

1151
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: two on about five attempts, Conley forty one point one

1152
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: percent on nearly seven attempts, Bogdanovic about thirty nine percent

1153
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: on six point six attempts, and Mitchell the worst of

1154
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: the bunch here thirty eight point five percent from distance

1155
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: on eight point seven attempts. Did you judge azz if

1156
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 2: they are hitting threes like this are a damn good

1157
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: basketball team, a damn tough out and you got five

1158
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: or six guys, you know, like lightening it up from

1159
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: downtown right now, and they're just going under the radar.

1160
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: They're good. They're damn good team. You know. Okay, let's

1161
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: see it in the playoffs. I get all that, but

1162
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: they're gonna be one of the top four teams in

1163
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 2: the Western Conference in terms of wins in the regular season.

1164
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: I think you book that.

1165
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: Jordon clocks and seems an irrational confidence guy, but right

1166
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 1: now this season it's working for him rationally. Yeh yeah,

1167
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: he gets out, Yeah, and he is you know, if

1168
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: the bull's gown to him, it's going up. It's gone up.

1169
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: Although he did have the six assists last night was

1170
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: a surprise, but otherwise he's just like I'm shooting this

1171
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: and I'm getting my shut off. And in the past

1172
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, you'll live with that all day.

1173
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: But right now he's really putting up the good numbers.

1174
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: So good on him. Because he got the Gibig contract

1175
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: in the off season, which I was a bit skeptical about.

1176
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 2: It.

1177
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: I think it was four years and fifty million around there,

1178
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: and I was like, they've overpaid for a bench guy.

1179
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: But right now he's giving them exactly what they need.

1180
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: Just when he comes out there, that scoreboard keeps ticking

1181
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: over and that's so important. That's really all you want

1182
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: from that guy coming off the bench, and he's giving

1183
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: it to them.

1184
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 2: I just love with the Jazz. You know, if Golbert

1185
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: is playing that, the defense is going to be elite.

1186
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: You just know it. It's going to be a top ten,

1187
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: if not top five. Just pair it with some offense,

1188
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: some shooting especially, and man, that's a good damn team.

1189
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: And that's what's going on right now. They're ten and four.

1190
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: They're like right behind the Lakers. They're tied with the

1191
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: Clippers again, one of the best records in the NBA.

1192
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: And you know, no one really cares. I get it,

1193
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: they're a new time. No one gives a DOWMN, But man,

1194
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: they're good. They're fun to watch right now. To the

1195
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: way they're shooting, you just wonder if they can keep

1196
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: it up.

1197
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 3: Trey, Yeah, twenty one threes last night. That's the fifth

1198
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: time this season already that the Jazz have hit twenty

1199
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 3: or more threes. They did it four times last year. Somehow,

1200
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: the Jazz are the best three point shooting team in

1201
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 3: the league right now. That's not what you expect from

1202
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: the Jazz unless it's Stockton and Horniseck out there. But

1203
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 3: if they're able to keep up the shooting, it certainly

1204
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 3: helps because it makes it a lot easier for guys

1205
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 3: like Jordan Clarkson and Donovan Mitchell to do some damage inside.

1206
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: It gives Rudy Gober a lot more room to run.

1207
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 3: Having Bogdanovic back for them is huge. We knew he

1208
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 3: was going to be a major piece that they missed

1209
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 3: during the Bubble playoffs. Obviously that was the case. But

1210
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 3: he helps stretch the court. He can play a little

1211
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 3: bit of defense, and the shots are falling right now.

1212
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 3: The Jazz always go on a huge winning streak. Maybe

1213
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: this is the one for them. Enjoy at Jazz fans.

1214
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: You played great on a night when there were only

1215
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 3: two games. That's how you get a spot on no dunks.

1216
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah no, Unfortunately, did we start the show with you, No,

1217
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: we did one month in, but still you got a

1218
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: nice five minutes right here go. Yeah, absolutely no, that's

1219
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: absolutely true. About them. The way they're playing is fun.

1220
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: They're a fun watch right now. And you know, they're

1221
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 2: an interesting team too. When I think about it, they're

1222
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: one of the teams that probably did the least in

1223
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: the offseason, So you know, you wonder if like just

1224
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: that that consistency, that continuity of the same team basically,

1225
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: I mean what they do. They brought back favors. I mean, yeah,

1226
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: am I forgetting anything? I was brilliant what they did.

1227
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 2: That was their whole off season in a nutshell, and

1228
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: maybe that's helping them get off to this hot start too,

1229
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 2: ahead of some of these other teams. All right, final

1230
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: news here, not a game because we already did the

1231
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: two games. But Kyrie Irving he practiced with the Nets

1232
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: on Tuesday. Lately, coach Steve Nash says that he expects

1233
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: the all star point guard will play tonight against your

1234
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,959
Speaker 2: Cleveland Cavaliers. Kyrie has missed the past seven games, five

1235
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: for personal reasons too. While conditioning now, Irving said that

1236
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: he had, quote, he had a lot of family and

1237
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 2: personal stuff going on, so he just wants to leave

1238
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: it at that now. He talked to the media for

1239
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: a long time. Yesterday, he had a lot of thing,

1240
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 2: lots of things to say, but sounds like he's going

1241
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: to play tonight. And I think the most important thing

1242
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 2: I took from it was that he said he dressed

1243
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 2: his teammates and his organization individually. That was the big

1244
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: question mark we had, Like, Okay, you got to do

1245
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: what you gotta do. Man, you got to take care

1246
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: of yourself, your mental health, whatever else you have going

1247
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: on in your life and your family. But there needs

1248
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: to be communication, I think with your employer in this case,

1249
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: he says that he has and they're ready to move on.

1250
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: Anything else to add.

1251
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: Well, just that that we should live. If a guy

1252
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: has some issues that he needs to deal with mentally

1253
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: and emotionally, we should never hold that against him or

1254
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: in any way, you know, criticize him for that, because

1255
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: I think that's a very very important thing to deal with.

1256
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: Make sure you are taking care of yourself first of all,

1257
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: and if that means he takes some time away from

1258
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: the game, I think that's fine. You know, let's not

1259
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: pile on this guy. Let's let him have his space there.

1260
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: Because mental and emotional health is a very very important

1261
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: subject and it carries a stigma still that people think

1262
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: you know that you're being a loser, or that you're

1263
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 1: you know that you're doing splitter or something exactly exactly,

1264
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: and everyone, every single one of us know that all

1265
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: of us are dealing with something, whatever it is, in

1266
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: our life. And when you're in the spot, like like

1267
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: an athlete is like Kyrie Irving, people want to just

1268
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: they want to keep probing and picking and saying, what

1269
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: is it? Tell us, tell us eales. And sometimes you

1270
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. You just want to deal

1271
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: with those things you need to take care of. And

1272
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: Kyrie has done some incredible things off the court that

1273
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: I've just quickly run through a couple of them here.

1274
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: You know, he donated one and a half million dollars

1275
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: to WNBA players who couldn't get paid during the COVID

1276
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: pandemic last season. He's donated over three hundred thousand defeeding

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Speaker 1: New York City families. He partnered with Nike to donate

1278
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 1: seventeen palots a food of fifty thousand masks the Standing

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Speaker 1: Rocks Who Reservation, and he's done several other things. And

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Speaker 1: recently he bought a home for the family of George

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00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: George Floyd, who was of course murdered by a Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: police officer late last or last year. So Kyrie Irving

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Speaker 1: has some other things that he likes to give attention to,

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00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: and I think they're all in very important courts. Is

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Speaker 1: much more important than what goes on in a basketball game.

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Speaker 1: Having said all that, though, it is still on Kyrie

1287
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: to communicate to his team a little bit more consistently

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Speaker 1: so at least they understand where he is and what's

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Speaker 1: going on, because he did seem to go missing there

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Speaker 1: for a few days. So I think, you know, he

1291
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: can improve in that area. But otherwise, certainly, dealing with

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Speaker 1: your mental health and your issues, your personal issues are

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Speaker 1: very important and they should be encouraged and certainly not

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Speaker 1: ridiculed for doing that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very excited to see if he plays tonight too.

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Speaker 2: What these nets look like, the damn All Star team

1297
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: and Katie Harden and Kyrie and how that fits. That's

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Speaker 2: the real things we want to talk about, like how

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Speaker 2: that works on the court tray and you know, whether

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Speaker 2: the whole there's only one ball to go around with

1301
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: these three guys with the usage rads through the roof.

1302
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Speaker 2: You know, that's what I want to talk about. So

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00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 2: it sounds like we're going to be getting to that again,

1304
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: hopefully starting tonight. Yeah, it's going to be exciting.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see Kyrie on the court with

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Speaker 3: these guys, because that's all you hear. If there are

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00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 3: going to be enough ball is how's he going to

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Speaker 3: fit next to James Harden. James Harden has played with

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Speaker 3: high usage guys his entire career and put up top

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Speaker 3: ten offenses. Now he's on the best offensive team he's

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Speaker 3: ever been on, Kyrie Irving. We'll just see how he

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Speaker 3: slots in along maybe the nets, you know, maybe they

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Speaker 3: average one hundred and twenty points a game. With these

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Speaker 3: three out there, they can still all average third. There's

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Speaker 3: still thirty points to go around. I can't wait to

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Speaker 3: see how it plays out. I love Kyrie. I love

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Speaker 3: the work he does off the court, and he's certainly

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Speaker 3: a different guy. And when you're a different guy and

1319
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 3: you handle the media differently, when things like this happen,

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00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 3: when you disappear from your team for two weeks, it's

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Speaker 3: not gonna be good. You know, people are gonna jump

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Speaker 3: down your throat. But hearing from Kyrie, I think puts

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Speaker 3: a lot of concerns at ease.

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Speaker 2: And now it'll just be a case of actually seeing

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Speaker 2: him on the court together. Cannot wait.

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Speaker 3: Pretty crazy though, if Kyrie makes his return in Cleveland.

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00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 3: He hasn't been playing in Cleveland since he left Cleveland.

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00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 3: He was there for the very first game Celtics versus Calves.

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Speaker 2: Whatever year that was.

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Speaker 3: That must have been twenty seventeen, I suppose, right when

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00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 3: Gordon Hayward had the injury.

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Speaker 2: But it's been a long time. Obviously not quite the same.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's a little easier to return and there are

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Speaker 3: fewer fans in the stands, but it'll be interesting to

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Speaker 3: see him back on the court.

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Speaker 2: Cannot wait. All right, Let's get to tweet of the night,

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Speaker 2: tweet out the night. Wow, Lee, I swear to God

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Speaker 2: if you meet Compazos pass tweeter the night got crazy?

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Speaker 1: Well, you said for me, you know, you don't want

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Speaker 1: me to live in the moment. So I'm actually going

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Speaker 1: with a way back Wednesday tweet. Now, let me just

1342
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: let me just build up to this, because today is

1343
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: a happy day in America. It's a day for hope

1344
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: again because the big dum idiot is gone. And it

1345
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: can't be overstated just how bad he was for this

1346
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: country and the world, and in the NBA world, it

1347
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: also means a resumption of a tradition that hasn't happened

1348
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: since Barack Obama was in office, because usually the winning

1349
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: championship team makes a visit to the White House to

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00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: see the president, and it's always a fun event. We

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00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: always got some good laughs out of that, some great

1352
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Speaker 1: content out of that whenever they went to see them.

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Speaker 1: And so, but this president, the last president, the most

1354
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Speaker 1: recent one, was such a terrible human being that teams

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00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,959
Speaker 1: stopped going. Players didn't want to go there and didn't

1356
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Speaker 1: want to be at the White House. And that started

1357
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: after the twenty seventeen Warriors won the championship. Now they

1358
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: were invited to the White House. Because Trump was desperate

1359
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Speaker 1: to get acceptance in the NBA world. That was the

1360
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: one sport that he really wanted to be included in.

1361
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: You know, NFL, sure it's a bigger sport in this country,

1362
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But the NBA is the cool sport,

1363
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: and that's the one that he desperately wanted. You know,

1364
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: hockey teams went to the White House, NFL teams, college went,

1365
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: but no NBA teams went while Trump was in office.

1366
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Speaker 1: And and you know when so when the Warriors were

1367
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: sort of prepared, you know, talking about maybe going and

1368
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: not going, Steph Curry said that we don't stand for

1369
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: basically what our president has, the things that he has

1370
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: said and the things that he has done or said

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00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: at in the right times, and we won't stand for it.

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Speaker 1: And so just after that, not too long ago, after that, Trump,

1373
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, acting as always as if he was in control,

1374
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: said right, invitation is withdrawn and you're no longer welcome

1375
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: to come to the White House. But that was after

1376
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: the Warriors had said we're not going. Okay, the old

1377
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: Eye broke up with you before you broke up with

1378
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: me first, And that prompted this great tweet from Lebron

1379
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: James seventeen that just said, you bum. Stephen Curry already

1380
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: said he ain't going, so therefore ain't no invite. Going

1381
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: to the White House was a great honor until you

1382
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: showed up. And I thought that was just really good

1383
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: stuff from Lebron James because people always saying, oh, he

1384
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: put sport out of politics, even though the President used

1385
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: to use sport to his advantage whenever he wanted to.

1386
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: He wanted to build Bilichick in there the other day

1387
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: to give him a Freedom of Honor medal, and he

1388
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. Belichick was like, no thanks, I'm not

1389
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: going near you. So anyway, I just think today is

1390
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: such a significant day for America and for the rest

1391
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: of the world because a little bit of hope returns

1392
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: to the world, because the last four years have been

1393
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: absolutely disastrous for so many people around the world and

1394
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: so many institutions. And finally today that cloud of darkness

1395
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: gets lifted and hope returns, and it's great and we

1396
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: will see I'm sure back in the White House, the

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00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: Lakers and Lebron will be probably back in the White House.

1398
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Speaker 1: Well I'm not sure actually with social distancing, if that's

1399
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: going to happen immediately, but you know that teams will

1400
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: start returning to the White House and having fun again

1401
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: because that was always a great time.

1402
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: Great tweet of the night, an unheralded, you know, under

1403
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: the radar tweet one point three million lights. Just kidding,

1404
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 2: it's a great tweet.

1405
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 3: Wouldn't the Cavs have been the last team to go

1406
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 3: to the White House twenty sixteen? Remember they had that.

1407
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 3: There was that classic clip where they removed the podium.

1408
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 3: She's like, and wait to see what tech they've come

1409
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 3: up with in the next.

1410
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 2: Five yea holo rams or something like that. All right,

1411
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: a way back Wednesday, you called it there the night.

1412
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 2: The guy lives in the moment, but he's given us

1413
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 2: tweets from four years ago. Incredible, man, you're incredible. All right.

1414
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: Pickup results from last night. It was the Pelicans Jazz game.

1415
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: Jazz were favored by six and a half. Lee and

1416
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: I this tag team, you and I Ley with these picks.

1417
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: We're rolling now. We took the Jazz to cover. They

1418
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: did as we talked about. So victory for Lee, victory

1419
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: for me. I'm ten and eight, all right, feeling pretty good.

1420
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: In January, Lee improves to eight and ten and the

1421
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 2: loss for Task and Tray bump them down to eight

1422
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 2: and ten. Three way tie guys for last place. So

1423
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 2: this is exciting now, still lots of basketball in January

1424
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 2: to be played. Tonight's game though, Miami at Toronto. No

1425
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 2: Tampa but Heat Raptors. It's a Florida contest. The Tampa

1426
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 2: Bay Raptors favored by four and a half. All right,

1427
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 2: so the Heat's still without some of their main guys.

1428
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: I believe you know. Don't think someone can fact check

1429
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: me on that. But anyway, Heat Raps, you know, two

1430
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 2: teams like that. Like I said, I slipped them in there.

1431
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: Both have had disappointing starts to their year, no doubt

1432
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: in terms of their victories, they win loss records, but

1433
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 2: they're both I think everybody thinks still good teams. So

1434
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: who do you have tonight to Let's start with you, Trey,

1435
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: Who do you have tonight? I don't know Skates. Are

1436
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: the Raptors gonna do good tonight? Yes they are. I

1437
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: would take the Raptors. So are you okay? I'll take

1438
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 2: the Raptors. Sounds good to me.

1439
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 3: They've been playing pretty well lately. They're on a bit

1440
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 3: of a winning streak. It feels like they're figuring things

1441
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 3: out now that they move Chris Bouchet into the starting lineup,

1442
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 3: playing a little.

1443
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: Bit faster, he's been solid. Uh So yeah, give me

1444
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: the Wraps. Yep. I'm also taking the Raps. Not overthinking

1445
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 2: this one. I think they win this by five or Morley.

1446
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: You know again, Alex Lenna's gone and that's always good

1447
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: for a couple more points in my book. So I

1448
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 2: got the Wraps trays got the Raps, what do you got?

1449
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, just looking at the Heat, I know Bam was

1450
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: back in their last game, but no Jimmy. Still I'm

1451
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: not sure about drug at even Tyler Hero I think

1452
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: missed their last game injury. Yeah, so a little too

1453
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: many injuries there for the Heat. I think the Raptors

1454
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: have got five points in them. So let's make it

1455
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: a three way.

1456
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 2: Okay, three of us have wraps. Let's see who Tass has.

1457
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: I'm guessing he goes Toronto as well. Let's find out.

1458
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 3: I'm just a hometown boy raised in South Toronto and

1459
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 3: I won't stop believe.

1460
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 2: Wow.

1461
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: Wow, So I guess I think that's a big for

1462
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: the raptorss Oh, it was awesome.

1463
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 2: I love how that ended. Okay, so everybody taking Toronto,

1464
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 2: so that means the heater gonna wait for sure. Now

1465
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: all four of us are taken Toronto to win by

1466
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 2: four and a half, so five points or more. Oh

1467
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 2: my goodness, go wrap. So Okay, that's it for todays show.

1468
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: That was a fun one. Guys, Thanks for joining us.

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01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:13,120
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1478
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 2: I know we got Thursday's podcast. I know we got

1479
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: Beach Step and I know we got Shane Hill. But

1480
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 2: on Friday we will at the one month in mark.

1481
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 2: You know, make our picks right now for some of

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1483
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,040
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 3: And remember Shane Heel is the hammer because he got

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Speaker 3: in a lot of fights as a kid.

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Speaker 1: Brace the day. People.

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Speaker 2: You could stay ooo every day and and you happy

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Speaker 2: every minute. It's been so long that you're the fun.

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Speaker 3: Of way for It's happened already.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be grivy