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Speaker 1: album him elliot about we go on a plane together

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Speaker 1: How did you feel with the Bridges, that guy along

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Speaker 1: with How did you feel? How did you feel there, Norri?

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Speaker 1: How did you feel when the Bronx king listen still

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Speaker 1: matter the Bridge. I'm a fan of maybe a mancument

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Speaker 1: not understand, you don't know, you don't get you if

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00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 1: if he knows it's coming, it's not gonna happens. He's

426
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: not a su please. And so so he punched him

427
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: in his face. Um, I can tell you that that

428
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: night after Chris went to the dentist, after Leo took

429
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: him to the dentist to get his grill fixed, because

430
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 1: that that lawsuit is on them now. If Chris wanted

431
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: to do that, yeah, So we spent the rest of it.

432
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: We spent the rest of that night running around um

433
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: New York City looking for DMX like it was deep.

434
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: That's what I heard. It was like tip Q tip

435
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: can't all violent because people don't know, cute tipeute people

436
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: like and everywhere and so and so. Yeah, it eventually

437
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: got talked everybody got talked off. The legend cooler cooler

438
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: health prevailed. But that was a true story. It was

439
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: and it was and I and I and the part

440
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: that I respect and me and DMX is cool. But

441
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: the part that I respect was it was a sucker punch.

442
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: He didn't see it coming. He got he got that one, Chris,

443
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: Chris got a lot of paper off that ship he came.

444
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: I got a lot of paper. But that was a

445
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: sucker punch, real. So moving on, what was what was then?

446
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: Artist that like like that that you maybe didn't believe in,

447
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: and it just took off and was like wow, like

448
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: is there anybody that you like? He was hesitant on

449
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: believing in and the artists take off. I think I've

450
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: been blessing my career to choose wisely and I've never

451
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: thoroughly believed, oh not believed, you know what I'm saying,

452
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: because I had great guidance when you got the A

453
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: and R over here and you got Cris over there,

454
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: like there was never anybody we doubted the past. Keep

455
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: keep hello, we keep a real drinking, but we keep

456
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: a real drinking it. I'm the only one in the

457
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: building that believed in fifty cent. M Okay, you're saying

458
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: a lot right now. You know what you came ready,

459
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: you don't know how. I don't. I can't. I love,

460
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: I love you, and I respect you. I can't agree.

461
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. I can't agree you was the

462
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: only one because I'll never forget. I never forget when

463
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: Gobby and Nelson had him. Okay, we touched him. There's

464
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: two different fitty cents. There's the one before he got shot.

465
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. How I'm talking about. I don't think

466
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: he was there yet. I don't know if he was

467
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: there yet. Hollo hollo. I don't know if you were there.

468
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: So how do Rob came? And then fifty cent got

469
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 1: hit up? Right? He got dropped from I'll tell you

470
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: a story about how fifty cent got to violate that, right, story.

471
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. And you're gonna appreciate the story too.

472
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: And I don't think you know the whole story. So

473
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm in the front and I'm getting a little bit

474
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: of money, but I'm not really getting money. Uh. Me

475
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: and you both had convertible lex coops like you said

476
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: you had that. You didn't get mobile, y'all talking about

477
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: but please please, So I just got uh. I started

478
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: getting a little bit of money. But I wasn't like or,

479
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: but I was getting some money. And so I went

480
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: to um, this jeweler in Paramise. Her name is best

481
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: Isaac right um, and I was, I was. I was

482
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: buying some ship I couldn't even afford. I was doing

483
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: years is you know what it was like, either ninety

484
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: nine or two thousand, right something. I was got to

485
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: be before that, because now you're talking about he got

486
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: he got hit. It was so so and then he

487
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: disappeared for a while. Nobody couldn't get in touch with

488
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: And so I go into the jewelry store to buy

489
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: some diamond rings from Beth right, and she had this

490
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: diamond crossing the window and I'm like, yo, Beth, what

491
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: the fund is that? She was like, she was like,

492
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: you can't buy that. I was like, why not? She

493
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: was like, because that's fifty cent? Fuck the airrings? Now

494
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: fun the chain. I need fifty cent. She's like, he

495
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: ain't sucking with nobody. I was like, no, Beth, listen

496
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: to me. That's my guy from studios when he used

497
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: to write for Sweet Tea when she was making a comeback,

498
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: and he was like he was doing to Ghet Karl

499
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: like like, fifty is my dude, Please have him call me.

500
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: She was like, I was like, Yo, listen, all you

501
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: gotta do is tell him Enix is trying to get

502
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: in touch with him. Don't do nothing else, right, You

503
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: don't have to set up no meetings, don't just say

504
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: Enick said, give him a call. So three weeks go by,

505
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: Shot Money called my office. I was like, yo, what's up.

506
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, I want to sign fifty cent.

507
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: He was like, and now fifty didn't give a funk

508
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: about nobody. He didn't know who to trust he was.

509
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: He was like, he's all columbiad. He dropped from Colobia,

510
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: he got hit up, and now he's in recovery, hiding

511
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: out somewhere, not knowing who to trust because this real

512
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: Nick is in the street trying to kill him. So

513
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm not working with nobody, And I was like, listen,

514
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: this is what y'all do. Pop up to the office

515
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: any time that Chris got him a publishing deal. Okay,

516
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: with the contract so I said, tell tell you and

517
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 1: Fifth come to Violator anytime you want. Don't call me,

518
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: don't let me know you come in. Just say you outside,

519
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: and i will drop whatever I'm doing and I'll come

520
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: and deal with you. I'm paint the picture for you.

521
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: Fifth shows up to Violator on Lexington at the nigger

522
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: had nobody was getting no money. Well, he wasn't getting

523
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: no money him, and shot was sucked up, broke. The

524
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: nigger had on a snorkel. Right. Some ran over Tim's

525
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: I'm painting a picture. This is not that he said.

526
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: We know now multimillionigmes fucked up, ran over Tim's bulletproof vest,

527
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: two bangers in his waist and looking like he was

528
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: ready for war, like looking like he's standing on the

529
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: corner ready for war with Cavan. I'm trying to and

530
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell him. Yo, my nigga, your story

531
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: is solidified. Now. Everybody in street knows what's going. Everybody

532
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: around the world knows what happened to you. Bro. What

533
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: we gotta do is now go make the records. That's

534
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: what I did. Let's go make the records and go

535
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: to Chris. Chris is like, now I ain't fucking with that,

536
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: like why would I want Why would I do that?

537
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: Irving the niggas at the time, Murder Inc. Had the

538
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: game in the fucking show call like they had the

539
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: game and a show called My Life This Quiet on

540
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: Jake Chance. Murder Ain't had the game in a chokehole.

541
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: But my job as a and r AT violator is

542
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to compete. When we was in one sixty

543
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: Verick Street, RV Gotti himself told me, my nigga, always

544
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: keep the energy in your office, always have the ship

545
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: popping Earth. Was always a good dude with me until

546
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: after I signed fifty cent. Then we wasn't cool nor more.

547
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm keeping it, but no, Chris Gotty kept it real

548
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: with me, he said. Chris Gotti said, you know, you

549
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: know why I folked with you because you wasn't trying

550
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: to get into the beef. He was just trying to

551
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: do business so we could leave you out of that.

552
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: You wasn't trying to enter the beef. You said, you

553
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: saw opportunity to sign a hot nigger, and you signed them,

554
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: and that's what I did. That was my job. Well,

555
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to strap up and put on a

556
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: bulletproof vessel and get out in the street and bang

557
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: it out with niggas. That's not who I was, So

558
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm keeping the g So, so I went to Chris

559
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: three different times and it wasn't until Chris realized how

560
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: his mixtape was heating up in the street that Chris said,

561
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: a fuck, you got it. Let's do it, and we

562
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: signed fifty cent to violator records, violated records, last, no

563
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: violent records, steph SRC, let me, let me, let me,

564
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: let me talk, and Steve didn't say that, but let's

565
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: throw a curb bother and that it was also a

566
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: MG Michael Ovid, the agent from Hollywood, you know what

567
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So there was this whole eco system going on.

568
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: Some people didn't understand because christ was making moves into

569
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: Hollywood that noody, let's we're gonna get to that because

570
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: because because now we're not gonna have to say that,

571
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to that second with that too. But

572
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: so he was signed s RC. You know, he signed

573
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: violated SRC Columbia back at Sony, but through violated through

574
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: ideal with SRC the Columbia deal. Yes, and so we

575
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: start to make the records fifty and shot Hop on

576
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: the plane and then gets a hold of this hot

577
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: ass mixtape in the street. This mixtape was killing the

578
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: street and then gets ahold of it, shot money and

579
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: fifty cent Hop on the plane. This is gonna you

580
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: ain't know this story. Jumps on the store, jump on

581
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: the plane, and agree to sign to Aftermath. But after

582
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: they signed, there was already in a deal. Wait wait

583
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait was it? There

584
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: was a J Records element to this. There was a

585
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: J Records record J Records. There was a J Records

586
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: element with Todd. With Todd when they came back from

587
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: the trip, because Marshall listened to it on the set

588
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: of the movie. They went to l A, got that

589
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: m they caught that ticket for to sign the deal.

590
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: They came back. It was street now. They came back

591
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: and they went in. They went in Todd's offense. That

592
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: was when you went times off. When when I when

593
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: I left Violator, we were still on Lexington. So they

594
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: came back from the deal. He said, fifty fifty cent

595
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: shot money sitting in my office in the middle of

596
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: the office. But did they get money from this violator?

597
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: They got money for the deal it's got advance and

598
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: every they was signed, sealed delivery. You got an open

599
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: budget going to the studio. But you gotta understand something.

600
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: He only had a mixtape in the street. He wasn't

601
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: fifty set hot, right, It wasn't It wasn't you know,

602
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: go short. You know I wasn't that. So he comes

603
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: back and goes, Yo, Eric, we gotta go to Chris,

604
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: gotta get out this this deal. I don't know what

605
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: you wom me to do. So we're going to top Moscow.

606
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: Was now had left Deft Gym and became general manager

607
00:35:52,880 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: of Violator. It was you ain't going no throwing to

608
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: the yo, Yo, fifth shot me Chris Todd. We're in

609
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: the office, Yo, we gotta get out this deal because

610
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: and then we don't want to sign us to the aftermath.

611
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: Todd looks and goes, I don't give a funk. That's

612
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: not happening, right. Chris is like laughing, like, Yo, this

613
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: is gonna bug you out, and I'll swear to God,

614
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: Nick Yo, put us his game on the table. He

615
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: puts his gun on the table and was like not

616
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: pointed at him. Puts his gun on the table and says, yo,

617
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: we gotta get out this deal. The niked Todd my schools,

618
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: runs out of the office. Down. Don't come to work

619
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: for gods to be pulling guns out on me. He

620
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: leaves the office. Todd is my guy. I'm not trying

621
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: to play your Todd problem telling it's just a factor.

622
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: Todd hands out of the office. I don't. I don't

623
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 1: come to the I don't come to the studio. I'll

624
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: come to work for God to be pulling guns out

625
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: on me. No Jewish, Jewish god, Jewish lawyer. You know

626
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: you don't ain't about the life. Right pulls the gun

627
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: out the nigger. Chris is me and christ and there

628
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: rolland laughing. I asses off right and Chris is so

629
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: g And this is why I have so much respect

630
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: for Chris, because Chris saw the bigger picture. He wasn't

631
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: being selfish. He saw the bigger picture, like, yo, go

632
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: blow up with Dr Dre And but the only William

633
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: letting you out to deal is if I manage you.

634
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: And that's how he became from violated records. S r C. Wasn'

635
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: him to violate a management and fifth and then and

636
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: then Chris shouted managing. I mean there's ways around things.

637
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But I mean christ everything,

638
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: but it was it was through your record then Columbia

639
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: and the split management was shot money because that's what

640
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people forget. You know, Shy as a

641
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: music guy was also his manager and also managed the money.

642
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying, So it came like a whole

643
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: package deal because I remember back to you in the

644
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: belief of fifty fifty was writing for Puff. It's the

645
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: Daddy's house. I'm the vice president of promotion. Is that

646
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: bad boy is? That's why fifth to be going on

647
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: that part right now. I mean, I think there's a

648
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: lot of different reasons, you know what I'm saying, But

649
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: fifty is just you know what I'm saying. It's awesome,

650
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: It's entertainment. I love it, you know what I'm saying.

651
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: Like just just to give you the psyche of fifty cent.

652
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: Fifty cent thinks he's doing your favorite when he goes

653
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: at you, he's not. He's not looking at it like

654
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm dissing you to punk you. He's looking at you

655
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: like stupid. Take advantage of it because all the eyes

656
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: are gonna be on you. And now I'm giving you

657
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: a platform as whole, like take advantage. She's not looking

658
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: at it like it's trying to play your psyche. So

659
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: some people, Peter and I don't need that type of promotion,

660
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 1: though I'm like, okay, I'm sure the Instagram going back

661
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: and forth with Buster and Fitter, that's where I heard it.

662
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: I heard. I heard Fifth ain't looking at Buster like

663
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm disrespecting you. And but if you know this, Buster

664
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: got in the gym though after that, but look at

665
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: Buster now I work. Let me tell you something. Buster

666
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: ain't had this confidence. He had this glow. This album

667
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: is something that albums out. He didn't have listen to listen.

668
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: And this is my friend and he loves to tell

669
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: me when I'm working up, so I can't wait to

670
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: tell I can't wait. He's really my friend, I really like.

671
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: But right now, not only he's not sucking up, he

672
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: has a certain glow to him. Presidents when you when

673
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: I heard that, Chris Rock, you can't god, I got

674
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: Bust the number. I wanted to be like, oh, I'm scared,

675
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: like I was literally scared, like this album's crazy. I

676
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: ain't even hear you. But Rock is doing that. That

677
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: ship is just as an energy and then I see

678
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: more black China and they I don't know what they

679
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: did it was, but even that, I just see if

680
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: I looked at my friend's confidence and I'm just like,

681
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: that's the busting rhymes. I know that's the motherfucker put

682
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: your hands while I can see bus right there, like

683
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm telling you, bro, I'm telling you,

684
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: I can't wait. And tonight, tonight is a great night.

685
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: Tonight jay Z is dropping it again, nas album is dropping.

686
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: What do we feel about this? For this? This is

687
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: like the third times now an now, it's just he's

688
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: dropping something and then the big home in stright after.

689
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: Does anybody see a coincidence here? Pulling the curtain too much,

690
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: pulling the curtain too much? No industry answers. And you

691
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: have it to sip with your drink either when you

692
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: ask for when Ali infras your fight, Ali and Frasier fight,

693
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: Let it be a great fight your book to do so,

694
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: I gotta let you actually brooken inside of you and

695
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: to wed very few point of you know, jay Z.

696
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: Jay Z is a chess player, man, man, and to

697
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: say that he's totally oblivious and this is a coincidence

698
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: I would say bullshit. I call bullshit on that, like

699
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: just me personally. Um, just you know, there's a saying

700
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: in the music industry, the more albums come out, it's

701
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: not that people are gonna buy one from the other.

702
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: It's more trafficking the stores. So when we, like when

703
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: we literally was selling CDs, it wasn't a bad thing

704
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: that you dropped the same day as your competition because

705
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: because because you now you are now your fan bases

706
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: in the store and the traffic is just heavy and

707
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: they gotta go get both albums. Some people only got

708
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: enough for one album, so they gotta choose, But the

709
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: traffic is there and everybody's gonna do well. So that

710
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: was that, that was in mindset behind it. But Hove

711
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: is always going to let everybody know who the funk

712
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: he is. Classforms of his life. Clatform no classform. When

713
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: nebody listening to record, you clapform, y'all listen to clapform.

714
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: People understand what he's saying. No, no, no no, yeah, yeah yeah,

715
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: clatform blatform, I passed, I passed is a genius. Hove

716
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: ISTRTIF and Hove his son's niggers. Just Brandy answered brand Lift,

717
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: do you think it's it's like delibly did answer the Q.

718
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: It's called the brand lift. Okay, there'll be exclusives on title,

719
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: don't let a lot of track, don't let me finish,

720
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: There'll be a lot of traffic, there'll be a lot

721
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 1: of visuals. Just more and jay Z dropping a single

722
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: and Naza is dropping the whole album. Yes, he's been

723
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: doing this ship from reasonable doubts too. It was written

724
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: like I remember being in studio with track masters and

725
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: Steve Stout and when and when Hove dropped reasonable doubts

726
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: stouting them didn't I'm a Brooklyn against doing him. Did

727
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: not really know who Hove was at that point, his talent.

728
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a reasonable doubt and this is gonna

729
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: make me sound crazy. Was hoes intro into the game

730
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: at the time. I'm gonna be honest with you. If

731
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: you were getting money, you was understanding what he was

732
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: talking about. You got into that album. I wasn't getting money.

733
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: If he's moved out, I didn't get into hope. What's

734
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: the next album after that? Um um and my life

735
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: my lifetime? I starting a little money. I went back

736
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: to you couldn't get into reasonable doubt. I didn't understand

737
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: a lot of that money. But if you do. But

738
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: if you when he was getting into that certain ship,

739
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: I was, I didn't know. I didn't know what christ Chris.

740
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: I went to the girl I bought Cristole. You how

741
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: if you if you're not getting money and you listen

742
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: to the presidents, you're like, man, this nigga like you like,

743
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't see that. I don't see that,

744
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, And I'll give you that because you know what,

745
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: if you really knew getting money cats back in those

746
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: days like we did, it was the soundtrack to their lights,

747
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: the real getting money cash, the cash from Brooklyn that

748
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: can do the fills, the Knicks, you know what I'm saying,

749
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: the casts uptown, the Lennis, you know what I'm saying, Like,

750
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But there was track to

751
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: that light. But there was two ti. There was two

752
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: types of hood niggers. Though. There was niggas that wanted

753
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: didn't I get you, But this this this niggas in

754
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: the hood that will never want to sell drugs. Like

755
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: in my hood there was niggas that never wanted to

756
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: sell drugs. They just wanted to stick niggas up and

757
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: then there's niggas who was keeps on taking who never

758
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: wanted to, who never wanted to rob niggas and stealing.

759
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: They I stand on the corner and pitch rocks, and

760
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: so the nigga is on the corner that pitch rocks.

761
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: Jay Z was the favorite. The niggas that was hoodied

762
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: up going out, you know, going to midtown and dig

763
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: pockets like things on the corner. Dudes that had the

764
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: dudes on the corner, the real get the dudes that

765
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: handlers on the corner. And I'm gonna be honest, I

766
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: was my own worker, like I didn't have workers like

767
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: so I can't even about pie like like this listen recently,

768
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: right a couple of years ago, your limitations of call

769
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: it's bad. So I love the record, but I'm friend

770
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: of my heat balls a couple of the hundred hours

771
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: with me before we get in the club. Gave him

772
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: the money. This nigg is in the club. What's spending grands? Nigga?

773
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: Let me, can you please remind me? I'm like, it's

774
00:45:52,040 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: a lot to your stop. That's every big boy here,

775
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: Like I'm looking like holy shit, But that's the reason why,

776
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: Like I didn't want to be that guy. I wanted

777
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: to if I funk with your lyrics, because like instance,

778
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: it's not that I love nas wanted jay Z or

779
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: anything like that, but I do a magic want to

780
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: be simple doubts. But when now I spoke to me

781
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: at Magic, I felt like he was still from Queensbroad

782
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: Like when Jay spoke to me, I feel like he's

783
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: from Beverly Hills that first album because he was on

784
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: my fourth Seasons Brunches ship like that. I didn't know

785
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: what the four seasons, know what bunch was, but he

786
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: what But you literally saying I'm down to him. You don't,

787
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: I said after he couldn't. I can't relax and I

788
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: went back. But I got now, I got some money,

789
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: so I'm like. But then we were like like, that's

790
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: but there was a whole team of cash that could

791
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: You don't say, look at this sport, look at Block Royal.

792
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, look at music. You don't

793
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: know that, but holy loan set it up. Come on,

794
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: okay you super lag hold on and you ended, how

795
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: are you okay? What were we talking about, James Ki,

796
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: keep going baby, were talking about Look what he samed,

797
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: Look what Jay was talking about he gave cast Getting

798
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: Money a blueprint to get out and do music. He

799
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: gave cast Getting Money the license to you in another

800
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: way because yeah, this is our life. He told you

801
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: his life. You couldn't relate, but you got interested. Yeah

802
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: you couldn't relate, but you want to hear more. You

803
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: couldn't relate, but you know what he did and traps

804
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: to Jay and props Siwan and allderm casts over at

805
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: the rock. You know what he did gave us an aspiration. Yeah,

806
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: I want to know what in my tired that's my time.

807
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: I want to know what the four seasons. Yeah you

808
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I want to know what. You know, like,

809
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: she was definitely something. It was definitely cold, so fou

810
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't even got a program, so you just stayed there.

811
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: Don't get no point. Did American card to find a

812
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: way out? I don't even I didn't even keep it

813
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: all the way real. One of my first nice nice

814
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: cars was um the g S Lexis. Remember those come

815
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: on because you had green flame? Yes, yes, I'm sorry.

816
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: So again, I wasn't getting that much money, so I

817
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: had the three hundred. So when jay Z said to

818
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: dive the six. I had to take my ship back

819
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: and just spend a little bit extra just to like

820
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: ship that I could like. The whole culture followed that.

821
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: The whole followed definitely knew. I definitely knew this. Two

822
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: instandus when he started wearing platinum made everybody we're platinum.

823
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: He started wearing football jersey, football jersey, start wearing jersey,

824
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: just starting button up thirty button up the record record

825
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: called changed clothes, and the whole culture started wearing button ups,

826
00:48:55,040 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: including me. Killed two. I didn't kill it. He'd every

827
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: definitely changed. He was. He stopped everybody from TV, he

828
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: stopped he paying paying. Ain't touch the sense. But let's

829
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: be honest. You know what Jay did on reason but

830
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: that he gave you aspiration. Like you said with fifty,

831
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: when fifty would come to the office, I'm gonna sell water,

832
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna self sneakers, I'm gonna do movies, I'm gonna

833
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: do video games. He's spoken into existence. Fifth was a genius.

834
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: You had Banks sitting over there for less because banks

835
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: don't talk. You had Yanyo sitting there being the hype man.

836
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: You have fifty telling you everything he was gonna do,

837
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: and then you had Eric doing the records and Dre

838
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: doing then you had Chris saying, all right, let's go

839
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: get this table. We're gonna take every every time we

840
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: could get Like you know what, I'm saying that they're

841
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: just certain cats that just had this innate Like you know,

842
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: I remember when Baby first walked in the Universal people

843
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: don't people look at me? Reboked, violated, bad boy. Now

844
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: I was at Universal too, and Baby walked in there

845
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: with two rod less on a go on in the

846
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: Platinum and signed a deal right at the table. They

847
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: had a movement. They spoke things into existence. These are

848
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: our heroes and hip hop people aren't giving them enough

849
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: credit for the aspirational talk, giving you an opportunity like now,

850
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: I ain't gotta be a hand in handcaf, I ain't

851
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: gotta be on the corner. I can go invest in this.

852
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. I could do this and do that.

853
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: And then vulnerability. Vulnerability, guys, that's the truest form of

854
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: artistry because when you're vulnerable, people can relate to you.

855
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: That's where we tend to forget that vulnerability as all

856
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: your glory with the manager Christ and the label the jams.

857
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: All right, you were vulnerable. You gave it up to

858
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: your to your manager, wasn't for him. That's why people connect.

859
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: So when Jay came with that, a lot of cats

860
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: ain't noticed. I knew all the street, big street cats.

861
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: I knew every one of them from Brooklyn to the

862
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 1: Bronx too, because I played bass. I was lucky. Wasn't

863
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: in the street when Jay came. He gave them a

864
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: blue print to play handball. No, baby, I got signed

865
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: a sixteen. You got down. I know the message. You

866
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: know what I know that they get casts. Wasn't Messa

867
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: with you on baseball? Soboy, you just joined us collegue. No, no,

868
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: it's okay. Um, so we uh, this is what we did.

869
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 1: You know he's uh two brothers that you know behind

870
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: the scenes and make the artists. And I wanted to

871
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: introduce you as well. Um and I wanted are using

872
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: your drink, I give people introduction, but today because I

873
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: wanted people to know, like places to go and how

874
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: to go about it. So I want you to give

875
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: your own introductions. Just let the people know of certain

876
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: things you did and be a part of Jesus. Um. Well,

877
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: I started in Miami, so I'm in Miami. I was

878
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: born in Jersey, but I am a Miami native. I

879
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: started at Slipping Slide Records as an intern, well even

880
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: before that as an intern. Even before that, I think

881
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: a lot of the Miami people know me as a

882
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: when I was in college waitressing and working at a

883
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: comedy club, so I got a lot of my connections.

884
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: The Babes, the Brian mckenney's, all those guys know me

885
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: from eight nineteen years old, um, when I was doing that.

886
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: But got into Slipping Slide with Ted Lucas and you

887
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: know el of it from there and Yellow Honey Ted

888
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: Lucas creaking legend so um. And from there I went

889
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: into management with the label Balls my management when he

890
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: signed Jacket Edge UM to an overall deal, and then

891
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: from there just Skyrider right Skyrocket. I ended up meeting

892
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: Mona Um by chance. Mona Scott Young been in from

893
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: their transition from music into television, and I've been a

894
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: part of the Love and Hip Hop brand since its

895
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: inception pretty much Yes morning now. I love a lot

896
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: of people don't know. I really love love and hip

897
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: hop like everyone lass at me. I love my hip

898
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: hop up marriage can watch it all, watch it but

899
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: Here's the thing that I've never seen. I've never seen

900
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: a star blow like Cardi B. Like like as opposed

901
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: to everyone else, Like people kind of like when you

902
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: do Love and hip Hop, they kind of look at

903
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: you like you're in a graveyard. Like you're a person

904
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: who had a career. You understand the sound and saying

905
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: and now this is your way of like like boosting

906
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: it back up. But Cardi B was like a person

907
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: that that came was was coming up, was known like

908
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: like like the strip clubs or whatever, but then took

909
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: it to a level that no, did you think that

910
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: she was could be wish she's at right now. I

911
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: mean Cardi had a huge following before we even got

912
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: her on the show. She was, but I think Love

913
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: and Hip Hop helped transition her social media fame to

914
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: music because we were there in the beginning and documenting

915
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: her studio stuff, her first one of he first videos

916
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: of her cafe. You know, like we really were there

917
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: to help um showcase that transition into music, and she

918
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: had a real specific goal. She knew she wanted to

919
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: come in what she had to do and go on

920
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: to the next thing in her life. You know, I

921
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: think some people in reality, not just love and hip

922
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: hop stay stuck because the fame and the notoriety and

923
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: walking around and the money you get quickly from being

924
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: on reality, people get really stuck in that. So you

925
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: have to understand, Yeah, you have to understand you have

926
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: a goal that you need to have when you come

927
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: into this, Like I'm coming in, I have this in mind,

928
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this for this amount of time and

929
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to go into the next thing. And I

930
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: think Carty had a great plan of attack when it

931
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: came to jumping on love hip hops. So this is

932
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: like boomer sometimes where you gotta sign people for eight

933
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: year contracts. That's that couldn't been. That couldn't been, That

934
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: couldn't been. I mean, everybody's relations everybody's negotiations are different

935
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: with the networks. You know, the networks are the direct

936
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: relationship when it comes to negotiating and stuff like that.

937
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: So everybody's is different, you know, and that goes it's

938
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: not directly through the production company. The production company, you know,

939
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: we're the network is the clients, so we're producing the

940
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: show for that. So once it's time to do the show,

941
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: then the networks have to come in and make those

942
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: pres no you you secretly work for love and hip

943
00:54:53,960 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: hop as much as you talk, like all right, because

944
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: I feel like a show. I feel like the show

945
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: gets wrong, wrong interpretation. What I mean by that is,

946
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: you know we have we have before let me finish.

947
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why drinks people come on drink

948
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: Champs and they blame me. They'd be like, you got

949
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: me drunk. There's no way I can get you drunk.

950
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: There's no way that I don't smoke weed. You can't

951
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 1: get second hand and weed. I'm just talking about. That's

952
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: that second hand when you see I've never believe you.

953
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: I never really believe. It's like this are gone. But

954
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people will sit down, they'll say to me, yo,

955
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: like I've seen I've seen artists say I've seen Marlon

956
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: Wayne's gotty and people say, no, he was on that show.

957
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: You smoke And then they were like, what they made

958
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: me smoke? And it's like it's not that's not one

959
00:55:52,200 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: of the truth. The smoke is available. Set many baby

960
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: definitely got jold o. Listen but wait you set up man,

961
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: But wait, wait, but MATI and I have this thing. Okay,

962
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,959
Speaker 1: all right, we got to drink. You gotta you gotta

963
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: say Maddy because you say Molly, I have a different relation.

964
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: I could say something connect and when I say it

965
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: that way, because she's gonna We've had this conversation. We

966
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: had this conversation recently. Yeah, So what are you so

967
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: about loving hip hop? Go on this sky? Love me?

968
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: I love loving hip hop. I love that I know

969
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: everybody on the show. I don't love is when I

970
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: walk into that corporate boardroom at Google, I walk into

971
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: that corporate boardroom at Nike or Reebok, and they think

972
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: that's all of us because we're portraying a certain way

973
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: of being on it on the show down, We're gonna

974
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: have it. You don't want to sit here and talk

975
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: about reality television and display the reality of someone's life

976
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: when you guys, because you guys are older than me.

977
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: To be clear, you guys have pushed the envelope of

978
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: rap for all these years, and realities of the rappers

979
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 1: that come in and talk about the drugs, talking about

980
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: slap on my dobbin, fucking bitches getting money. All this

981
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: ship was the reality of rappers is the reality show

982
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: without the visuals. So what love and hip hop and

983
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: onto the reality shows come in and did is that

984
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: They give you a visual representation and it took the

985
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: woman out of the shadows of a man that's been

986
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: there for all these years. You see the differences, the differences.

987
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: We take accountability, did you yes? We did? No? You

988
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: know how how went to the accountability by going in

989
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: those boardrooms and closing those deals to say no, we

990
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: are educated, we are professional managers. Say but your money?

991
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: How I just think I left you, I let you know,

992
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: hold all, I let you speak. We did take accountability

993
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: because we showed to those corporate boardrooms and closed the

994
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 1: types of deals which planned disease to allow for other

995
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: things to come out, like love and hip hop. So

996
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: we were learning as we went along. We made mistakes.

997
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: It was we didn't have a bootprint. Nobody gave us

998
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: a book this is how you go do this. But

999
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: we went out and did it, and we did it

1000
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: with integrity and accountability. But then, in all reality, they

1001
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: had that opinion of us way before love and hip hop.

1002
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: I agree, That's what I just said. We took accountabilities

1003
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: and changed the perception. But but but the people and

1004
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: the people in the corporate boardroom, A nobody's signed million

1005
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: dollar sponsor. Is that ostrich? You run around? They do it,

1006
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: That's what I do, all right, we're talking to me.

1007
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: I kind of watches that they had. They've always had

1008
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: that opinion of us from the eighties, right, And you

1009
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: can't single handedly blame it on loving. Nobody's doing it.

1010
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: I think that I definally, I don't think that love

1011
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: and Hip Hop portrays our culture properly. And that's what

1012
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I say and I think that a

1013
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: lot of it is exaggerated for the drama of TV,

1014
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: which makes it even worse. Right, But I understand it

1015
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: because the drama is actually taking these kids that were

1016
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: done finished, Nobody cared about them, and I get that,

1017
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:44,959
Speaker 1: but they took Okay, let's take not scrappy, but let's

1018
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: take Stevie J. Right, he was done, nobody gave, Nobody

1019
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: was paying attention to Steven Nobody. I wasn't calling Stevie

1020
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: J like, let me get a track. Okay. I respect that,

1021
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,479
Speaker 1: But there's also the cases that you can't look over,

1022
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 1: like a Pat Poos and Remy Mall, where not only

1023
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: on the show, they're making the show look good good

1024
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: and likes not look my wife with that I was like,

1025
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: that was my question. Actually, everybody loves the train wreck. Yeah, everybody.

1026
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: You cannot turn away from the train loving train wreck.

1027
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: No disrespect. I'm just saying that. I mean everybody, nobody

1028
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: as the woman and the only woman, not the woman

1029
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: in this room and Martin's that's all. Let me say something.

1030
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: Everybody one thing. Wait je j So this is my

1031
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: only thing I'm not saying before on the show. It's

1032
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: a love and hip hop. Now everybody hears industry and

1033
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: they represent mcs and the artists. That's only one element

1034
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: of hip hop. So when I go I've traveling around

1035
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: the world and I'm talking to people, they don't. They're like,

1036
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: I thought hip hop was this culture with with turntables

1037
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: and be boys and graffiti writers and knowledge yourself and

1038
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: all of this. And this is what you guys are saying,

1039
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: is hip hop now it's it. That's what I feel like,

1040
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: disrespectful to the culture in that sense. Not as a show.

1041
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: It's an amazing show, That's what I'm saying. If you

1042
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: call it loving hip hop, that's where I kind of

1043
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: drew the line. But love drama reality TV. When you

1044
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: look at all the reality TV, like if you take

1045
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: American Idol and you take um the other one where

1046
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: they spend your chair around like you take all of them.

1047
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: It's not about breaking your artists. It's about ratings for

1048
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: the show. It's about the person. Okay. So the story

1049
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: shows like Love and hip Hop, Basketball, wives, marriage, Blue

1050
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: campon these different type of shows is the personal slice

1051
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: of people's lives by the mic. That's what it's about.

1052
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Speaker 1: It's a very segmented audience. Now, you said something that

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Speaker 1: I disagree with. You said that these stories are not real.

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01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: Any of us that have been in this industry for

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01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: this amount of time you know someone personally or have

1056
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: been apart these four men in the table of situations

1057
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: like a Love and Hip Hop throughout the ten years.

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Speaker 1: When I say real, I said when I said, it's

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Speaker 1: not real. When I say it's not real if I

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01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: don't funk with you, right, and I do. But if

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Speaker 1: I don't funk with you, I'm not having I'm not

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Speaker 1: meeting up with you as some flat restaurant to talk

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Speaker 1: to you about our problems. I just don't. Well. This

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01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: is the thing is that there's people don't have there's

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Speaker 1: no secrets. When you get casted, you know, the people

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Speaker 1: in your cast. So it's up to you to decide

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Speaker 1: on whether you want to deal you have. This show

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01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: is about this specific world, These specific people dealing in

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01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: this specific thing particularly didn't funk with each other, and

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Speaker 1: you guys knew that and still booked both of them.

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Speaker 1: There's a casting process, there is a cast hold. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm so Mona Scott happens to be a really good

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Speaker 1: friend of mine, and I've helped her put certain certain

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01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: people on the show, and I've sat in the producer

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01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: grilling meetings with not Mona, but the producers are trying

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01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: to find out where the dirt is so that they

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01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:23,439
Speaker 1: can get the ratings up right. So it's instantly thought

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01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: of like if you come in and you just squeaky

1079
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: clean and you don't have no problems, you have no

1080
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: beef for nobody, get along with everybody, you're not a

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Speaker 1: good cast member. But don't we do that in the

1082
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Speaker 1: hip hop and now because we do marketing, but just

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01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: just because we were just going through that with the

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01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: cent thing, right, you guys said that she was cool

1085
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: with her and all that, and then you said when

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Speaker 1: fifty fifty got shot, but maybe it wasn't marking the

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01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: tool for you guys. But when Fifty wanted to market

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01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: that hit his album, couple was nine shots. I'm sure

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01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:00,959
Speaker 1: none of you guys said, no, no, that's not true.

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Speaker 1: So so if you again, if you rewind back, if

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Speaker 1: you you have a relationship with fifty, right, yeah, Okay,

1092
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: when you speak to him, he will tell you how

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01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: long I would speak to him. I got a relationship. Okay,

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01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: the next time you he will tell you how low

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01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: I funked with him before I actually got a chance

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Speaker 1: to Right, So what I'm saying to you is that

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Speaker 1: for me, I don't give a funk this the story

1098
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,919
Speaker 1: is a train wreck, or the story is a chance

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Speaker 1: to wrap up. I just want to know that the

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Speaker 1: artist is talented and he can articulate his story properly

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Speaker 1: on or I ever seen twenty four hour or All Access.

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Speaker 1: The thing is whoever Floyd fights, Right, that's suppose this

1103
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: guy is a Burgo. That suppose this guy is the

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Speaker 1: real deal. Truth. The thing about it is you have

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Speaker 1: to describe that opponent to be qualified to fight Floyd

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Speaker 1: that night. So don't we kind of like do that

1107
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: on the hill? Like, I mean, the thing about is this, right,

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Speaker 1: I learned from from a real person. He said, I

1109
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: don't want my enemy to ever be a sucker. They

1110
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: sucked me up because, he said, because because you begin this.

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Speaker 1: But the thing about it, if your enemy is a sucker,

1112
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: it also takes away from you, right, Like, I don't

1113
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: want anybody I ever had before, I want them to

1114
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,919
Speaker 1: stay up. I've been looking at the Instagram like, say,

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01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: don't fall out compet Like, so, isn't that somewhat what

1116
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: we do in hip hop's competition? That's how we got

1117
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: thrive since it started. Competitions that press for one second,

1118
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Speaker 1: please okay. I have a real issue with the fact

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Speaker 1: that what you would you just said at some point,

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Speaker 1: if you're nobody, if you're from Mars, if you're an

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01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: alien and you watch that show, there's a perception that

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01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: comes along with that. If you watch Hortel Crew, there's

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Speaker 1: a perception that comes along that about the last if

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01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: you watch wives, there's a perception that's being portrayed in

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Speaker 1: the environment that's allowing people too perceived that that's how

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Speaker 1: they all are. So you know what, it's entertainment, Yes,

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01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: we know it's entertainment. There are social issues that we've

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Speaker 1: grown up with that we identified with on those shows.

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Speaker 1: But not every bad Latin girl there's a stripper, not

1130
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Speaker 1: every way, let me say not every Spanish excuse me,

1131
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: not every Spanish dude in the game is a drug dealer,

1132
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But all the content that's

1133
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: being put forth, that's representing our culture, most of it

1134
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: has to do with the negative sides of our culture.

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Speaker 1: And real first off, I believe for this past these

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01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: past two years, um hip hop is embraced relationships and

1137
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: embrace life, and I think that's reflected on the show

1138
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: and with hip hop every there was relationship problems in

1139
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: every single way, and only one had to deal with

1140
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: them fidelity. But the reality is that it's still on

1141
01:06:53,840 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: the show. You you're talking about rappers, only you have

1142
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: James James. Your your issue is how they perceive us.

1143
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 1: But that's their problem, that's the hold, that's their lack

1144
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: of ignorance. Right, there's no such thing as all if I,

1145
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: IF I, IF I, if you're Hispanic, I'm not gonna

1146
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: consider all Hispanics just like you. Right, I'm not gonna

1147
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,479
Speaker 1: consider all women just like her, right, I'm not gonna

1148
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: consider all black dudes just like me. There's different. So

1149
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Speaker 1: because that's because I'm intelligent, and we live in a

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Speaker 1: culture now, and we live in the world, especially with

1151
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: this election coming up, where a lot of people are

1152
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: concerned with all right, they like they have this perception

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01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: of all black people are this way, all white people

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01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: are this way. And I know white people who say

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01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: black lives matter, and I know white people who don't

1156
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: understand why we have to say black lives matter. So

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01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: it's they're ignorance that we can't. We can't cater to nobody.

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01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: I'll give it up TV on that, but let's be real.

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01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm in those meetings and they want to talk about

1160
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: what's going on with love and hip hop, and they

1161
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: want to talk about what's going on TMZ, what's going

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01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: on lad TV, what's going on with all the social

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01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: media stuff. That's a perception they have that we have

1164
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: an uphill battle to change. You know what I'm saying.

1165
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: When you gotta look at you. You go on Netflix

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01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: right now showing one Puerto Rican, one Dominican, or one

1167
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: Cuban TV show. You can't Nicky Jams. Wait, that's a

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01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: documentary and it's a script. It's a Christian documentary by

1169
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: jesse Ja SI series. But how how did you How

1170
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: long did it take? How long did it take to

1171
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: get there? I'm gonna be honest naming one. You're correct,

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01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: anyone and anyone? How many Mexican drug dealer cartel shows

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01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: are I can't cant about number one. I'm just right,

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01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: every drug and drug and if this shows but scripted shows.

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01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: That goes back to when when everybody was making ministers

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01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 1: society and boys in the hood and every Do you

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01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 1: know what I think every I think that what's missing

1178
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: that's been missing forever in hip hop is just the balance. Yes,

1179
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of balance because you think we had.

1180
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't want this, don't I think what I'm saying

1181
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: now stop eat. What I'm saying is this, let's be clear,

1182
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 1: don't change, don't switch me up. I don't like that.

1183
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: You know what I want to shot? I want you

1184
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 1: know what you want? I want to wait. I wanted.

1185
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: I wanted us is Latinos to stop acting like guessing

1186
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: our own house, guessing him. There's a guy named Charlie Chase. Yeah,

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01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 1: there's a guy named Crazy Leg. There's a guy named Showing.

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01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: There's a guy named for named Clean. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of individuals. There's an anti Martinez as a d J.

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Speaker 1: Enough because the d J Camillo, there's a man I

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01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: still know. What I'm saying is like your guest, No,

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01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: we our guests in hip hop because the perception is

1193
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: we put Latin in front of everything, Latin rapper, Latin x, latiness, nothing.

1194
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: But they just started taking away urban. They now it's

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01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: a movement to take away urban from black music or

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01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 1: Black music department. How do you identified Spanish music now

1197
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: on Billboard chart? Tropical and now and now and now's

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01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: the last. Exactly Exactly what I'm saying is when we

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Speaker 1: have this conversation, when we say, when we talk about

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01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: hip hop, there are so many different influences that have

1201
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 1: been here that the perception is that it belongs here

1202
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: in those markets, in those meetings and those executive rooms.

1203
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: Because I'm in those exactive rooms every day, and I've

1204
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: got to hear what the perception is about our community.

1205
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: I've got to hear what the perception is when you

1206
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: listen to record who said what? And Cardi did this

1207
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: and oh this one says swallowed my kids in the

1208
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: two seat. But talking about why has anybody listened to

1209
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: music over the last time. Listen, that's the thing about

1210
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 1: what But you gotta go hold on, hold on, hold on,

1211
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 1: got stop stop stop, stop you. You can never stop

1212
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: artists from being who they are. I support what. I

1213
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: support women talking about they wet ass pussy because if

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01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: that's who that's who she is, if she if that's

1215
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: who she is as an individual. But but that don't

1216
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,560
Speaker 1: mean every That doesn't mean that Maddy's gonna sing that,

1217
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 1: because that's you're taking a point down the wrong. What

1218
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that we get caught up in the

1219
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: definitions that are given to us based on our knowledge

1220
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: and music. Yes we do, yes, yes we do, yes,

1221
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: we do asculate ourselves. Listen to me for a second.

1222
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 1: We don't get caught up in it. The ignorant people

1223
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: who don't understand the culture gets caught up in it.

1224
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 1: That's how they identify understand what I mean by caught

1225
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: up what I didn't know the different. No, we have

1226
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: to change the perception, so we get caught up in

1227
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: it by changing it. Why Why why do we gotta

1228
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: change our perception? Why? Because we better? We're better than

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01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: what people think. I don't give a funk what they think.

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01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,799
Speaker 1: That's why you're you're You're in your great music Sidy,

1231
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: And I'm like, my ill, I do care because I

1232
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: don't don't care. I don't give a funk what they think.

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01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm not here, listen because you know why you're in

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01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: that room. You're in that room because they need something.

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01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: They're not in that You're not in that room. You're

1236
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: not in that room because they got that room. You know,

1237
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 1: we're trying to give something from you. You know what.

1238
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: You know why we don't go in that room and

1239
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: you and that's not come on, let me say that's

1240
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: a come I always funk with Russell Simon. He said,

1241
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm walking into that room with a hoodie and my

1242
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: dadas on and I don't give a funk. I'll never

1243
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: putting on the super time to appease your motherfucker's because

1244
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: this is who I am, and you want to be

1245
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: a part of my culture. I don't give a funk

1246
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: about being a part of your way a second, you know, respect,

1247
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: you know why I'm in the room. Why come an owner?

1248
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm an owner, but I am an owner.

1249
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 1: I'm not to keep want no no, no, no no, no, okay,

1250
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:08,520
Speaker 1: want hi get wanted to know every time to maximize

1251
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: It's called cultural evolution. We involved the hip hop culture

1252
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: by trial and error. Nobody how many tell me room

1253
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: that you've ever been in your life that you didn't

1254
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: deserve to be it. Nobody said that I deserve to

1255
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 1: be in everyone. I'm not saying, no, that you did

1256
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: not earn to be. You know when I said to

1257
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: me in hip hop, in the culture of music, if

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01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: you don't have a reason to be in that room,

1259
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: you don't get your phone call. Hold on, this is real.

1260
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: Let's be real about this. We live in even amongst

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01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: our friends and the people who will be hot, they

1262
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: tell us they love us. Right when you get highna,

1263
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,560
Speaker 1: get out now. If you don't have something and you

1264
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 1: don't have a reason for them to call, they don't

1265
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: need you at that fucking movement. You got called five

1266
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: times to get your phone call to those the only

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01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: persons gonna answer. Polar band Toad you called as a mother.

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01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: Actually you don't mean I'm high school, so no, so

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01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: let me be cleps something. When you're in the rules,

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01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: when you're in the room, it's because you deserve, You've

1271
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: earned it be in that room. You have a commodity

1272
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: that they try to be in business with to help

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01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: market their ship. Other than that, you're not in this room.

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01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: I think I think you're living. I think you're speaking

1275
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 1: about a time that has already passed when you didn't time.

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01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 1: That's talking talking about Violet Chris, shout out, crazy, Chris,

1277
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 1: hit me, hit me for a stend. I'm gonna tossing

1278
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: it back to you. You're gonna love this right when

1279
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: you did vit him and work. Shout out to Jay

1280
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: Corus for being a focus trating behind and violent and

1281
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: multimillion dollar hundred two hundred three hundred million whatevers got

1282
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 1: for that ship. He was the reason. He was one

1283
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: of the reasons behind it. You negotiated that deal and

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01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 1: you bought vitamin water. End. If you don't have red

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01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: Hot fifty cent and you don't have a reason for

1286
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: them to come and funk with you, you don't sit

1287
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: in that room. It's my point, brother, But stop you that.

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01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: I gotta stop. That's not what happened. I need to

1289
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 1: understand that's not what happened because we've never heard let

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01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,560
Speaker 1: me tell you something, we've heard fifty cent story and

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01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: I hope this is drink chance. I hope you understand

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01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: he's the real that we want the whole story. I'm

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01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: gonna give you the whole story. So we've heard fifty

1294
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: cent talk about it. We've even heard Chris Ldy do

1295
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: interviews about it. Not an interview like this, obviously, but

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01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 1: we've never heard James Cruels. James CRUs we from the industry.

1297
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: I got to consider myself a person in the industry

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01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 1: and people outside of the industry. This is the first

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01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: time I heard people saying they know your name and

1300
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: they know what's the discrepancy that happened. And that's where

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01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: I feel like, But I want you to say you're

1302
01:15:58,479 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 1: a party of the story. I want you to say

1303
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: exactly how vitamin Warter came in, because I'm gonna be honest,

1304
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 1: we in the hood didn't even know what fucking vitamin

1305
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: warter was. We just fat, fucking fifties fucking wood. He's diesel, alright,

1306
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: I didn't even know when you were sending me cases

1307
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: of future How did you know I have the same?

1308
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 1: Like when that's not surruxy to but here this is

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01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: the Listen, James, this is drink drink moment. Yes, in

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01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: this drink chill We're in Hamburg, Germany, Hamburg, Da. Did

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01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: you just leave Doozel Golf because it was it was

1312
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: Frankfort Frank Frank Hamburg. We've been around one a few times. Yes,

1313
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: we have with Frankfurt, Germany. Me and young Buck have

1314
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: a fight, straight up fight this, James cruise quick. Yes,

1315
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: you and young all right, we have different part. Sorry, James,

1316
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 1: jam treuzy emotion in every week James truth. J can't

1317
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: take it. Chris flies out, straighten it all out, fifty

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01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: says listen a fly ship. He has a fly from

1319
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 1: New York to Germany. Yes, that's all. You respect that.

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01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money, my brother brother. Just just

1321
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 1: like I got a call Chicken little off the ledge

1322
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 1: because I'm quitting. I can't take it. Fifty says Yo.

1323
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: I want to sell fifty cent waters. You know how

1324
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: they sell quarter waters in the hood. I want to

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01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 1: sell it for fifty cent. Let's find a company to

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01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 1: do the quarter water deal and do fifty cents the

1327
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: bigger ones. Because he came up with wait a minute,

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01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 1: this is fifty just talking. I said. The man's a genius.

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01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 1: He spoke everything into existence. I want something waters. Chris

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01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 1: is all right. Chris goes back and does the research,

1331
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: flying to a company called glass Yow. It was right

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01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 1: next to Shake Stay Medium in Queens has a meeting

1333
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: with Rohan. Rohan says, okay, let's go, let's talk to them.

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01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 1: Let's not a conversation. Used to be that when he

1335
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: coming from the movie Zohan, he could, he could, he could.

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01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: He's a man behind Hop Chips and Vita Coco. This

1337
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 1: is a man that he's on Shark Tank. Alright, alright,

1338
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: So Rohan comes in to do a presentation. They bring

1339
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: about thirty bottles of water, all different colors. He says, well,

1340
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,839
Speaker 1: this is what we got, guys. I want the urban markets.

1341
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: Where's the grape? All right? Ding ding ding ding ding.

1342
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 1: They didn't have grape. So now there's an opportunity to

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01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 1: do business. Fifty said, didn't take no money. Fifty said,

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01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: didn't take a sponsorship. Fifty double down and said, fifty

1345
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: years ago, I'm investing in my own water. I want

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01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: temper cent of my water. Fifty cent said this. He

1347
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: only want to though he wanted skin in the game.

1348
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 1: He wanted fifty cent investment in glass Head on temper

1349
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 1: center his water. That was the deal on the only Timper.

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01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm not understanding because glasshow was over company. I know

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01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 1: it's Temper, his brand, his formula forli just the great,

1352
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: it's the great. Okay, put it down, all right. He

1353
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: put skin in the game. He bet on himself, like

1354
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: Callie says, Okay, don't have the term skin because we

1355
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: have it on skin corporate. He put money in the game, okay.

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01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: And he owned his own company. He owned his own business.

1357
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: But take the table, James. We're doing the marketing for it.

1358
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna do the grassroots, street teams and van rap

1359
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 1: to beat out what trucks. We're gonna do the commercial.

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01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna do the pH We're gonna hire. We're gonna

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01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: hire just you to whatever do this. We're gonna hire

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01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: Anthony Mannler to do that. We're gonna take the table.

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01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: So now we had an artists with money in the game.

1364
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 1: We had a marketing deal, but we had to sign

1365
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 1: a deal before a certain amount of time. We lost

1366
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: our oportunity. Now you want the drink Champ story. Chris

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01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: is lock up, Chris and Jam we need to sign

1368
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: the contract by midnight. We're at summer Jam theo Sado

1369
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: Meyer can't get in because they're not giving us no

1370
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 1: extra passes. They don't know who we bring it in there.

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01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: This is real time during the beef. You got twenty passes.

1372
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: That's it. Ain't no more ebro running around, everybody going crazy.

1373
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,480
Speaker 1: Del Sodomine stands in the parking lot with the contract,

1374
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: hands it to me. I run in fifty signs of

1375
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:34,560
Speaker 1: running back. We get it in by twelve o'clocks. We

1376
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: got water called Glass Vitamin Water. Glassy I was the

1377
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: name of the company. You guys know, it's vitamin water.

1378
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 1: And he took that brand and we put it in

1379
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 1: every video. We put in every rebouked commercial. We basically

1380
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: did the beats by dre initiative before there was a

1381
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 1: beats by Drey. Shout to Chris and shout to fifth

1382
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: they're the first ones that place. We had a tree

1383
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: minute commercial running on MTV twelve times a day that

1384
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 1: we had rebox sneakers, we had Vitamin Water Glass y'all,

1385
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: we had g Unit clothing. We used their platforms to

1386
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 1: maintain and sell our products. And then Coca Cola said, okay, guys,

1387
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: let's buy it now, let's pay you for this. So

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01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:27,879
Speaker 1: Co Cola came in yestis shares shares four building several millions,

1389
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 1: basically because we want to drink Champs and rather than

1390
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 1: confused people, he had shares which roughly equated to temper

1391
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: cent of his own brand. Okay, get only his own brand,

1392
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 1: or he didn't have nothing glassy his own brand, just

1393
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: his own brand. But they were buying everything, and everything

1394
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 1: still still equated to you know, non figures. It's still

1395
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: equated to numbers that we can't fathom because it's still going.

1396
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 1: People are still buying vitamin water, people still buying smart water.

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01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:05,520
Speaker 1: Kind of have intimate details deal whatever, Chris with geniuses,

1398
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 1: and there's still money being made through a deal that

1399
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 1: was astronomical from an equity standpoint because we were endorsers.

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01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't cool to be endorsed popcorn Chicken when I'm

1401
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: having to popcorn chicken. Everybody was shipping on him. Nobody

1402
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 1: wasn't cool. You were to sell out. I don't know

1403
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 1: any marketing strategy after two thousand and one that did

1404
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: not have a corporate brand structure involved with it. It

1405
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: didn't exist beforehand. Shout to Chris Likedy, Shout to bust

1406
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: A Rund's Mountain dude, shout to Miss Elliott, to Dida's

1407
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 1: shout to all the things, that the seeds were planted

1408
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: by violator because it didn't exist. It wasn't all right.

1409
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: But let's just take it. Let's just stay on this

1410
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: deal for a second. So and I'm I'm going with

1411
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 1: pure rumor, not the fact that I know you and

1412
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: I consider you with my family and I consider you

1413
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: my friend. Like I said, everything everybody involved with this

1414
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 1: my family and friends. But there was rumors that this

1415
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: deal went down, and the person that was sour all

1416
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: was I got fucked. I got schooled. You know why.

1417
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 1: I have paperwork, So every artist but you. But you

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01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: know what, you know what you know what? God, God,

1419
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 1: God is great because it was what you mean, it

1420
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 1: wasn't my time. But what do you mean by that?

1421
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: Because I didn't get it. I didn't get none of

1422
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: the money. I didn't get none of money on on

1423
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: on the sale. But that's okay, okay, but no, no,

1424
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: because that's you're the guy who found the Germany Google right, No, no,

1425
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: Chris found Chris. We executed the deal and executed the

1426
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: promotion and marketing of the brand initiative. That's what we did.

1427
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 1: I didn't deserve it. I thought I had too much

1428
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: equy at that time. I didn't deserve what I thought

1429
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: I deserved them because I didn't put in the work

1430
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: that I thought I put in my No, that's me.

1431
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: You know why it feels political now, it's not because

1432
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 1: I didn't get what I deserved. You know what I'm saying. Okay,

1433
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: that wasn't right now. I created the violated compilation album.

1434
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 1: He did. It was my idea and coached. I was

1435
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: about to say, because I want to get back when

1436
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 1: I get back, then we come back to let me

1437
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: come back to you. When I get back. I want

1438
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: to say, how music the music of the music right

1439
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 1: when I get back. But I just want to get

1440
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 1: this out of here. Huh. Yeah. I was salty. Okay,

1441
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. Can I be very honest? Yes,

1442
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 1: my mind was sucked up. I was on drugs. I

1443
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: was a straight alcoholic. Just keep one houses. Houses, we love,

1444
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 1: we celebrate sobriety, but let's be clear, we love cocaine,

1445
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: stories and a lot of roads. Yes, I was in

1446
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: the wrong sinke of mind. I was in the wrong spirit.

1447
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: I was heard this about you one time. But I'm

1448
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, James. And I'm not saying this because

1449
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 1: you in my face trying to make you feel better.

1450
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: I've never seen you in that type of state. So huh.

1451
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: So when like, I don't want to say that he

1452
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 1: hit it, well, I knew it because I worked on

1453
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: the world. I don't I read someone to play one

1454
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: flying to l A just randomly ran into it and

1455
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 1: I was like, Dan the Nick James fucked up, But

1456
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: I knew it. But he hit it well. It wasn't like,

1457
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, you want you want, you want to dig,

1458
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: you know you want to dig? No, no, no, that

1459
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 1: let's dig. There was a lot going on during that

1460
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: time that some of us didn't have the emotional tools

1461
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: to deal with, talking about shootouts, talking about life threats.

1462
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 1: Because you're talking about FBI van sitting on your block

1463
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 1: at your crib, you gotta talking about Nick's following your

1464
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 1: wife home. Come on, man, like you know I wasn't

1465
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not using as an excuse. I

1466
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: wasn't emotionally ready to deal with that. You know what.

1467
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: I got to eat that one. But thank God, by

1468
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 1: the grace of God in the s thos, I'm here.

1469
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: But I just want I don't want you to describe

1470
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: to this deal. I only even want to describe to

1471
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 1: this deal because I want somebody else who can be

1472
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,640
Speaker 1: in your position. I can say, you know what, what

1473
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: what did you feel like you could have did better

1474
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: in that deal? Because sign the paperwork, that's the only

1475
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:15,560
Speaker 1: thing you never saw. We rocked it Violator, right. It

1476
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: was a shape like like how we rocked the Violator.

1477
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: We just got in when we fit in and we

1478
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 1: just always hold us on us on the flip side

1479
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: of it, right, Chris took care of us all crazy, right,

1480
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: even like Chris paid us well when we didn't deserve

1481
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 1: to be paid well. Chris paid us when he didn't

1482
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 1: have money. He was going to keep it like Chris

1483
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 1: literally was like yo. He remember one time he walked

1484
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: into my office and he was like black hawk down

1485
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: and I knew what that meant, Like ship is fucked up,

1486
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 1: but you would never know it because we always got

1487
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: our paychecks. We always kept it. Ship moving, the lights

1488
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: was on, ship was moving. It was Violator. But there

1489
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: was there was a period of time and Violator when

1490
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: all the artists on the label Buster Rhymes Llo Cool,

1491
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: a three year period when nobody was touring, so that

1492
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:14,560
Speaker 1: means no, what was coming in? Remember coming in? But

1493
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 1: he still kept shelling it out. But I'm gonna tell

1494
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 1: you something. I'm sorry, that's fine. Sorry to the change

1495
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 1: of the subject. I the other day came across some transfer.

1496
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 1: Somebody sends me some some ship about a case in

1497
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 1: hip hop, and then when I look at this one

1498
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 1: case in hip hop, it transfers to three and six

1499
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: seven other cases. So it brings me this case about

1500
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy Henchman. I remember we had the office I say,

1501
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: weeks imbo later and then Jimmy Henchman had an office

1502
01:27:52,560 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: across the street. I was down the block, h history.

1503
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:10,759
Speaker 1: So I'm reading this thing and I felt terrible because

1504
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 1: at the time I didn't know how serious this was really.

1505
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: And I'm explaining somebody don't want me to talk to you.

1506
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: I might, yeah, because thank you, Chris Clean. Worry you

1507
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: do not want to go to cases. Worry you do

1508
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: not want to go to cases, alright, I Clean, ain't

1509
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: h him, No, I know, alright, don't be honest. I

1510
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: didn't understand what I was involved, like claim me. I'm

1511
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 1: just being honest. It's all seven years, it's all this

1512
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: is just twenty. We're talking about fifteen years ago, right,

1513
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 1: But I didn't understand because, and I'm gonna be honest

1514
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 1: with you, this is one million percent for lack of

1515
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 1: a better turn. Every time Jimmy and them see me,

1516
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 1: they act like they didn't even know I was violator. Bro.

1517
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 1: They were like, that was somebody say with me, somebody,

1518
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 1: And I'm looking like I'm I'm expecting this energy. So

1519
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm on guard and they're peeping, and I'm on guard

1520
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 1: and they're making me feel more comfortable. And I'm talking

1521
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: about this would be literally be walking from and then

1522
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 1: met me in the middle because they was in the

1523
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 1: middle across the street and they would just walk off

1524
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: nor I'm coming from later. So when people told me

1525
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: it was friction and ship like that, I ain't gonna lie.

1526
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I thought people was exaggerated. I was like,

1527
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 1: the nigga, try living in the middle. Try living in

1528
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 1: the middle of that tornado for five years. I did

1529
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 1: five years, Ready and listen to this grasscirt. I actually

1530
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 1: didn't know. I was like, oh, ship, I was totally wrong.

1531
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,560
Speaker 1: But the part that I felt bad was that the

1532
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: part that I felt bad was that obviously I'm violated

1533
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 1: for life. But I understood Jimmy. But I understood Jimmy. Okay, yeah,

1534
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 1: but but no, you gotta understand. It wasn't just that.

1535
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 1: Let's let's not let's not focus on Jimmy. It was

1536
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 1: all angles of all over the place. Yeah, Jimmy, was

1537
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 1: that case you're talking about. There was over here and

1538
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 1: there was over there, and you didn't know from over here.

1539
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 1: So anybody with any sense of semblance in the street

1540
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 1: would be like, Oh, here's an opportunity for me to

1541
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: get in because they don't know where it's coming from.

1542
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 1: Let's be real, let's let's go back. I'm gonna be honest, James.

1543
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:41,560
Speaker 1: Let me just say something. Violet was my hangouta I

1544
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 1: loved going to Violet Brown. Weed used to move, but

1545
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't ship. And there's a time with Missy and

1546
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: Missy was this ship and you knew where Missy was at.

1547
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:58,680
Speaker 1: This is Missy's mouth relaxed, come and see the weed man,

1548
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 1: But that is Missy's mom. There's the time it was

1549
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 1: Busters Busters mall. But there was a difference in fifty Camp.

1550
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 1: Fifty had six months at the town, a year at

1551
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: the time, a year at the time. Now it was.

1552
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: He was like, and that's what kind of changed, violator,

1553
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: because a lot of people say it was the shootout,

1554
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: not to shootout, the order suiting on twitching which one

1555
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 1: it was multiple oh ship all right, but then it

1556
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 1: wasn't really mean but no, it was. It was hold

1557
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:36,640
Speaker 1: on hold. But they wasn't trying to hit nobody. It

1558
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: was just like they were trying to get It was windows.

1559
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 1: It was calling Buster told me it was his car.

1560
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 1: It was his rose Busters, it was his Phantom, one

1561
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 1: of the first fantoms on the street at that Jesus. Yeah.

1562
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 1: Bus been getting a lot of buet no bustle the

1563
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: car you get. He had the last two Lamborghinis, Sunset

1564
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 1: and Pepperman. He had to humble before it came out.

1565
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 1: He had the Sandford and Sun truck. He this man

1566
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 1: had calls shout to Will Castro, unique order. Will Castro

1567
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: changed the game, the first original, original cast It was

1568
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 1: the original to get a spread it for you right now.

1569
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 1: But we why do we all get them busted one time?

1570
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 1: Let keep one hundred bust Yes, bust, I'm gonna say.

1571
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 1: Bus has spent a million dollars to win the funk

1572
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 1: Flex Car Show. I bought six cars to go up

1573
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 1: there to win the first Flex car. And we got

1574
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 1: there and Baby had every red car in the game.

1575
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 1: And then Wycleft comes with the McLaren and the big

1576
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 1: Foot truck. I ain't never seen Buster field that faces,

1577
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, but that that was a game back then.

1578
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: The jewelry and the cars Buster Buster Buster. Mother spent

1579
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 1: the most money I've ever seen on the video shoot,

1580
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 1: any video shoot, Danny Jackson. I didn't go to the

1581
01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 1: vantage backs and video shoot, but you know, my taste

1582
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:03,600
Speaker 1: buds was there in my mind because I was just

1583
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 1: looking in the Highway video. The Highway is looking shout

1584
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:12,639
Speaker 1: to slow but keep it real with you. Janet Jackson

1585
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 1: video was Joe because Janet Jackson was on set. But

1586
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 1: put your hands with your different put my eyes can

1587
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 1: see is my wedding song. Yeah, yeah, that's my we video.

1588
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 1: That video that would change everything that was. It was

1589
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 1: just Bust and his whole mind and coming to America

1590
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 1: and that whole to be all set and to see

1591
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 1: hype shoot that ship. He was like this. You remember

1592
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,639
Speaker 1: nooid the budgets was crazy. Then you had Victory Puff

1593
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 1: was listen man, listen that he was gonna go back

1594
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: to the consulation album. We come back to conation had it?

1595
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 1: You just do it the pop? So now I have

1596
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 1: to ask because you broke up the stories. So did

1597
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 1: you start doing okay around my man? Listen, I've been

1598
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 1: doing cocaine since teen years old. Nor ain't about nobody,

1599
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,600
Speaker 1: ain't noboddings story nor We're not going there. Ye. You

1600
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 1: you've been in situations that we might not want to

1601
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:22,679
Speaker 1: speak on right now, Normy talking about I don't stay cocaine.

1602
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 1: It doesn't remember, remember, remember, right, So let's just let's

1603
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 1: just let's sleep in door alright, alright, alright, murder Unit alright, yeah,

1604
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: asking him, Wait, let's remember whose records got played on

1605
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 1: Hot nine s Let's remember whose records got back on

1606
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 1: Hot Night and they bam me that's very true. We

1607
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 1: go on to that that we're not going it. You

1608
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 1: don't want to go to the nice version, alright, like

1609
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: I call the drink Champ. We google the drink nice version.

1610
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,720
Speaker 1: Let's version not to drink it stills drink Champs. But

1611
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,680
Speaker 1: so it was, isn't like that environment because I'm just

1612
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. Say the shiny suit thing earlier? Um,

1613
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: Chinese suit match, success in dancing and being who we were.

1614
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 1: There was no drugs involved during that time. You know

1615
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: why because the high Wisdom records there, when you saw

1616
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 1: you debuting, staying at number one, when you had five

1617
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 1: records in the top ten from one record label, when

1618
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 1: you had Puff on fire? Was you there when the

1619
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 1: lots wanted to go? Now I had left Red? How

1620
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 1: did you feel about that? I mean, I really didn't care.

1621
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 1: That was so focused on I had. I had this,

1622
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 1: I had baby Chris next to me, I mean birth

1623
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 1: by puff, raised by lighting, groomed by the game, like

1624
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not looking bad when you're racing you

1625
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:47,440
Speaker 1: you're a horse. You got I'm not looking side, looking straightforward.

1626
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 1: Let's gonna get this broad, Let's take the table. Definitely,

1627
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 1: I remember the day James started it with the company

1628
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 1: had definitely different energy. When when James started it was

1629
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 1: a different year. Did you come to oh God, I

1630
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,600
Speaker 1: started violating. So I came with Foxing Brown he was

1631
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 1: he was a round. Yeah I can't, seven, Dad, I

1632
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 1: can't violated. I know, I don't look that aldo. I

1633
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 1: can't Yeah, yeah, I got I got there in ninety nine,

1634
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 1: nine nine and a year before you. Okay, you got

1635
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:28,640
Speaker 1: it before me. Yeah, I got I got everywhere. Come on,

1636
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: I got it, I got it, I got I need

1637
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 1: Eric to tell this story because I would never forget

1638
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:40,680
Speaker 1: the day who kid and pun. I don't know why

1639
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 1: you want to go there. I'm going there. I'm going

1640
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 1: there because I'm giving my man props. You want to

1641
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 1: talk about a mediator. You want to talk about somebody

1642
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 1: that can make things smooth over. You want to talk

1643
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 1: like I sat there and I'm fresh that violator. We

1644
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 1: just left Jimmy's Bronx Cafe and I got the champagne

1645
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 1: bottle up stop two weeks in the game, when I

1646
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 1: saw every knick sit there and handle that like a

1647
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 1: true like a clown, like you should be every nixt

1648
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 1: avon not shot. Let's go. I had an intern. I

1649
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 1: had an intern who was hustling in my office right

1650
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 1: and not like drugs but not drugs. Again, Gotty always

1651
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 1: told me E Gotty and Leo always told me to

1652
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 1: keep it hot no matter what you do. Every time

1653
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 1: I walk into your office, Eric, this came from New York.

1654
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 1: You better have a hot record in your hand. I

1655
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. So my job was always always

1656
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 1: my job is in and R was always keep a

1657
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 1: hot record. Fast forward to Lexington Avenue I had and

1658
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 1: God blessed did this intern is not alive anymore. He

1659
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 1: he sold an exclusive that I think it was fun

1660
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: and Buster was on that that my intern took from

1661
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 1: my desk. In this case, you want to get shot

1662
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 1: a little and gave it and gave it and sold

1663
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:13,680
Speaker 1: it to who Kid for like a HUNDREFI yallars and

1664
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 1: stuff like that, because you know at the time when

1665
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 1: all the all the mixtape DJs like there's there, there's

1666
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 1: survival woman, I have a record that flex clue. I

1667
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 1: have this record on my mixtape that nobody has. So

1668
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 1: he sold it and who Kid when I'm keep it

1669
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 1: real with you and I almost gotten to beef with

1670
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:39,599
Speaker 1: Fat Joe on him about this kid. Happy birthday to Joe,

1671
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 1: Happy Birthday. Take the shot. So that's watermelons kid, Yeah

1672
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:57,599
Speaker 1: that watermelons. It's the best on the earth can ever Yeah,

1673
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 1: to take it when I would give it to you

1674
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 1: get some that's that's that's that's regularly we don't move you.

1675
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So who Kid says, you know, Fat Joe

1676
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 1: and punting them catch who Kids in Miami and in

1677
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 1: Macho Macho him who Kid up? And that was the

1678
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: start of the fifty cent fatio like kind of like controversial.

1679
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop you there, okay, okay about my video

1680
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 1: shop your video Van Van alright, alright, Miami. So I'm sorry,

1681
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 1: you're not wrong. Okay, we just forget forgot the part

1682
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 1: your video. It was crazy over here. We love who Kids?

1683
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 1: Who Kids? My guy? Who Kids? My guy? I've seen

1684
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 1: who Kids eat pork one day and I woke, okay, room, like, yeah,

1685
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 1: you're in the guard wise from He said, well, I said,

1686
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 1: I said, he said, I'm from Haiti. I eat dogs.

1687
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 1: He said this, he had this document, don't put right

1688
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 1: now he don't drink chance. I'm gonna be gonna make

1689
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 1: gonna confirm it right now. This case, we're gonna because

1690
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, Eves answers that phone. I'll be showing who

1691
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 1: can you Call? This? I have a segment in this

1692
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,679
Speaker 1: show called who can you call? Uh listen, I'm starting

1693
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 1: out with who Kids? Not very heavy, but let's just see.

1694
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 1: Let's see that he's my friend who Kids doing this

1695
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 1: thing right now doing he's been doing this thing, but

1696
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 1: he's in. He's in White America. He's he you know

1697
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 1: what he is. He's gonna be like like the new

1698
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: big In Hill, like my man Diego. He's like Biggy Hill.

1699
01:40:56,760 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 1: They'd be finging popping. I'm sorry I said that. I

1700
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 1: shouldn't have said that. I said, like, who get that,

1701
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 1: let's get let let's get to two. Back to to

1702
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,799
Speaker 1: this time in hip hop, when it was from all angles,

1703
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 1: it was beat everywhere. It was you ain't a way.

1704
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 1: It was coming from Eric's that sideman of Pause handling ship,

1705
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 1: Chris running getting. You know this is quote hip hop

1706
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 1: that I can't stand. It's called get the bag? What

1707
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 1: is that? Who wants a bag? You know what? I like?

1708
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 1: B B Back Brings truck or this get the bag,

1709
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 1: get the bag? You had the bag. Let's go get

1710
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:41,600
Speaker 1: the Brinks truck. That was Chris's concept, Chris's concept or

1711
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 1: three sixty deal. Anybody know who that was? His name

1712
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 1: is Ry's b I g O. Production Management, Lethal Merchant, Merchant, merchandise, publish,

1713
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 1: Gotta be careful with you. No, no, no, I'm saying

1714
01:41:55,439 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying this production label management but also publishing, and

1715
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:03,799
Speaker 1: I don't that's a I can that would be sixties.

1716
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 1: But let's know what am I getting? Wait? But what

1717
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 1: what about getting at the parts of just three biggest

1718
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:24,679
Speaker 1: parts of the income revenue for an artist is merchandizing, touring,

1719
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:28,639
Speaker 1: and publisht So now what am I getting at? Chris

1720
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 1: Genius managers. We own the game. We walked into the

1721
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: labels and said, Yo, we need X amount of we're

1722
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 1: doing the independent marketing, and on top of that, you're

1723
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 1: handing us the budget. We're gonna make the album and

1724
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:41,759
Speaker 1: while we're at it, we're gonna hire the video directors,

1725
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 1: and we're gonna write to you ever managed your artist

1726
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 1: after you left? Puff with Puff like, yes, I mean,

1727
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:50,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell your story. The president of s I seen.

1728
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm a president I see at the time with Steve

1729
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 1: Rifkin running the marketing company. Gobby is the president of

1730
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 1: record label. Shout to gobbyesterday. You know what I'm saying.

1731
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:01,559
Speaker 1: So you know, Puff calls me up and said, yo, James,

1732
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 1: let's start a management company. Huh he goes Yeah. I said,

1733
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:08,719
Speaker 1: Now I'm good over here with not not well? Alright, Puff,

1734
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 1: who's the client's met, Cassie. I'm all right over here? Puff? No, no, no, no, no, No,

1735
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 1: Rick Ross and Nicki Minash. That was the start. That

1736
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 1: was the start. Remember that that was the start of

1737
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 1: backgame management. Well, Nicki did not fire me, as per say,

1738
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 1: she fired the management company. So it wasn't anything pagement

1739
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 1: like that. All right, So but wait, but wait, But

1740
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:44,439
Speaker 1: then there were conversations. But there were conversations. There was

1741
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,600
Speaker 1: this guy named Able that shout to Salve that we

1742
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 1: were going to work on together. There's another due named

1743
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 1: Travis Scott that was writing for Puff that we were

1744
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 1: going to work with. There was a couple of producers.

1745
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:57,679
Speaker 1: It was really building a management company. Difference was puff

1746
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:01,679
Speaker 1: is needs a company behind them. Okay, let's be real.

1747
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 1: And on top of that, at that time, Christ is

1748
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 1: my arch nemesis. We couldn't go ch After I left Chris,

1749
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 1: he's my vie because because we were managing for cold

1750
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 1: managing violating. How much do you technically get a divide

1751
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 1: water deal? You don't want to mean, I don't I'd

1752
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 1: have to. I don't want to say the wrong thing,

1753
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:19,640
Speaker 1: like it's drink chat. You gotta keeping on Hudred. I

1754
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 1: don't want to say the wrong numbers. But it was

1755
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:23,560
Speaker 1: like forty million. It was it was. It was a

1756
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 1: six figure deal. It was six six figures. I don't

1757
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 1: little six figures time zero zero zero zero U no, no, no, no,

1758
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: not for me, not for me, for me if I

1759
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 1: don't know what to do copy worth four or five million?

1760
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:46,680
Speaker 1: You no, I would have what what? What? What? You

1761
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,640
Speaker 1: don't do? That? Didn't know that? I don't want it

1762
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 1: ain't it ain't work in the Jedi mind. Ain't gonna work.

1763
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:57,560
Speaker 1: You know. I thought it was obvious already think you

1764
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 1: love you A little trick doesn't. So now now let's

1765
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:13,759
Speaker 1: have a real conversation. Chris and I became an arch nemesis.

1766
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:16,759
Speaker 1: We couldn't be in the same room together. I didn't notice.

1767
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:21,759
Speaker 1: Let's keep on how much money got? No, it doesn't.

1768
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, but it was no but wait, but wait.

1769
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:28,639
Speaker 1: It was management as well as having our own equity,

1770
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,679
Speaker 1: as well as having the marketing. So we're adding things together.

1771
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:33,960
Speaker 1: So now me and Chris can't talk. We can't be

1772
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 1: in the same room together. My fortive birthday comes up.

1773
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:38,639
Speaker 1: What does my wife do? Love you? Lie? Marie sends

1774
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 1: a blast to everybody on my email list. Chris gets

1775
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 1: a blast. Come on my fortive birthday. God's plans plan.

1776
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 1: You know what Chris says to me at that party.

1777
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 1: You know, James, let's put Batman and Robbing back together.

1778
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 1: And when I say to Chris, this time, I'm Batman

1779
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 1: and you're robbing, Chris said, let's do it for Chris

1780
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:02,680
Speaker 1: because he was willing to allow the master, allowed the

1781
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 1: students to take the lead at that point. That's called leadership.

1782
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 1: That's called being a real executive that you're not afraid

1783
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 1: to let your student become the master. That's the beauty

1784
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 1: of Chris. Why did you want that? You know? I

1785
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:20,759
Speaker 1: wanted that because I knew that from my own personal

1786
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 1: egotistical issues that I needed to be that. No, we

1787
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 1: gotta do that paying forward. Listen, I can't tell you

1788
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 1: I got every Rolet's I travel around the world seven times.

1789
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: I've been everywhere, drove every car you can imagine. But

1790
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 1: I gotta pay it forward to the next generation. I

1791
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 1: gotta give it to the next generation. Make the mistake.

1792
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:39,639
Speaker 1: It's okay, learn from my mistake. I funked up, y'all,

1793
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 1: so hopefully you don't have to go through that. Learn

1794
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 1: from my mistake. But that's the beauty because Chris learned

1795
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 1: from the mistake because when d Knice shout to D

1796
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 1: Nice man, D Nice sat me down, how to cigar

1797
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 1: with me and said, before Chris passed, he said one

1798
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 1: of his biggest mistakes in this game was letting me go.

1799
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 1: I see that Chris's words. I'm quoting D Nice, But

1800
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:05,400
Speaker 1: that's not about me. That's about the student becoming the master.

1801
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 1: Eric was a student ever became the master. He made

1802
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 1: records that nobody else could make. L was number one.

1803
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 1: You put that on my resume. You know what I'm saying,

1804
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 1: L number one. But at the time it was so crazy.

1805
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 1: Let's talk, you know what I'm saying, Like, what's happening

1806
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 1: now in hip hop? Was it was real? This wasn't

1807
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 1: a w w F when we was in there. It

1808
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 1: became a w w after it was real. But we

1809
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 1: have to pay it forward to our next generation so

1810
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,839
Speaker 1: they don't make the same mistakes because we assimilated ourselves

1811
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 1: to a certain extent. But now we're owners and we're

1812
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 1: in those rooms for a reason. Come on, when we

1813
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 1: look at your deals, CBS, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Now

1814
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:51,599
Speaker 1: you don't want to talking about cocaine. I love violated

1815
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:56,639
Speaker 1: for similar reasons, like like I created, violated one multi platinum. Okay,

1816
01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's started. Okay, you're sitting around, You're

1817
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 1: looking at all the artists you have, and you said,

1818
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 1: why the funk we don't have a chronic because that's

1819
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 1: what Violet. It was exactly. That was, That was exactly

1820
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:13,640
Speaker 1: what I did mixtape. That was just exactly. It was

1821
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:16,719
Speaker 1: like it wasn't chronic, but it was like, so, okay,

1822
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: we I was more violated records then I was violated management.

1823
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 1: And so every time I called you, you knew every

1824
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:27,679
Speaker 1: producer in the world. I was like, I have a cold.

1825
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:30,639
Speaker 1: I'll just be testing every You understand the DJ sitting

1826
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 1: up I sunked up with you two. I ain't a

1827
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 1: lot of you because the record with you in Style Senior,

1828
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: I've been trying to hold on, by the way, just

1829
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 1: keep me up. I've been trying to pick a bone

1830
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:46,160
Speaker 1: with you forever. I know said that because you know

1831
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:50,760
Speaker 1: why he didn't let me hear styles P first, Like

1832
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm Violet, He's supposed to send me at already. And

1833
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of DMX DM actually got

1834
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:02,720
Speaker 1: DMX had a similar problem with me too, because when

1835
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:05,599
Speaker 1: I got DMX on on a Bust of Rhymes record,

1836
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 1: and then and then jay Z laid his verse after

1837
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 1: dmx X wasn't happy about that, you're supposed to tell

1838
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 1: me he happy about that. And that's the crazy thing

1839
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:17,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people know come through every let me

1840
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 1: just ship everything, said me, because listen see me is

1841
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 1: that he's always been like a and all. Like he's

1842
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 1: always been like the music guy, like when it's music.

1843
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 1: So I go to the joint. He got a check

1844
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:32,720
Speaker 1: from me. I'm like, what don't you get checks from

1845
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 1: like not from my own man, and like, no, no,

1846
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 1: this has just been good. Just take this. And I

1847
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 1: later joined that was hard to I'm thinking, like yo,

1848
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm coming back, but he's like no, no, no, no,

1849
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:50,439
Speaker 1: I just take it. I'm like, you let me finish

1850
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:51,680
Speaker 1: the joint. He like no, no, no. He had a

1851
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:54,640
Speaker 1: different vision, but it's his vision, so he put his

1852
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:56,920
Speaker 1: styles on it. And this is there's another funny ship

1853
01:49:57,040 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 1: that I probably you don't remember. I go to violate

1854
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 1: the office the day. This is the day. I think

1855
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:07,360
Speaker 1: it was just all sool me. So styles didn't want

1856
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 1: he didn't want his money. He wanted his flat screen

1857
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:19,800
Speaker 1: TV get Yeah, he wanted flash the oldfast thing got

1858
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 1: to this is the flat screen TV's just dirty. You

1859
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 1: want your bunny, you want budget, was guy. But I'm

1860
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:36,599
Speaker 1: like yeah, I was like, flast screen TV, you want

1861
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:40,560
Speaker 1: so much problems with values. But thus of year, I'm like,

1862
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 1: you didn't for the family. This is what he's gonna leaving.

1863
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:48,560
Speaker 1: He won't leave. This is working. But that was the

1864
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 1: first time I've ever seen a flat screen trying to

1865
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 1: get away away he tried to get it over with

1866
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 1: kid taxis trying to try to get away the tax

1867
01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 1: he didn't want. But Chris was like, I'll have him

1868
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 1: signed up letter direction and because that's Christmas and I

1869
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 1: had no idea listened to me. I went home and

1870
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:13,559
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, I gotta do another verse for somebody.

1871
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 1: This is my new ship. Just like I'm telling them

1872
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 1: to give me a chick. I'm just telling caught me something.

1873
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 1: And then I thought I was avoiding Texas too. I

1874
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 1: was also wrong. Yes I paid for that ill, but

1875
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 1: holy moly, Baca moly man, let's sake to yo, one

1876
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 1: of the biggest mistakes I've made was not making that

1877
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,760
Speaker 1: sh the single what come through? You know you've still

1878
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 1: been torn up for that, right that was. Then let

1879
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:54,000
Speaker 1: me tell you something about that record, Mia Styles to

1880
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:56,640
Speaker 1: this day, like I'm talking about this is like two

1881
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 1: or three four years ago. We have shows together, help

1882
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 1: come out to that record. That's crazy. I don't even

1883
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 1: have the instrumental Snuff Styles. I'd be like, Yo, how

1884
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 1: the funk you got? Bros. He's like, you know, just

1885
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 1: text me, I'll see you the instrumental. And I've never

1886
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:18,320
Speaker 1: had the instrumental in my life, my life, and that

1887
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:21,880
Speaker 1: that I ain't gonna lie. Uh. That record right there

1888
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 1: made me in styles like this, and we didn't lay

1889
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 1: it together. I laid it with you. I left, and

1890
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 1: you had a crazy money for the studio, which is

1891
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 1: why you said that when you said that in the

1892
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 1: course NIX when a that's I ain't gonna lie. I'm

1893
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:40,680
Speaker 1: gonna keep it with you for for a moment. When

1894
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 1: it came time from from n R. E to Melvin

1895
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 1: Flint to all these people like I remember it was,

1896
01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:49,200
Speaker 1: it was Missy. I remember even me hitting Chris Lighty

1897
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 1: saying yo, I want to do Missy and Chris saying

1898
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 1: to me, yo, you know, Missy is all about whatever whatever.

1899
01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 1: And you was the one who called more I wasn't.

1900
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you were. Remember I remember you

1901
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 1: called Mona and then hugged me up or Missy, but

1902
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 1: every time it was something music with lady and then

1903
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:10,160
Speaker 1: you moved on to track Masters or do I have

1904
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 1: it backwards? Was you track Masters prior to that? No,

1905
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 1: so I was. I went to track Masters after I

1906
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:20,800
Speaker 1: left Violator. So I left. I left Violator for a

1907
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:25,719
Speaker 1: simple reason that when I created the first Violet compilation album,

1908
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 1: it went platinum. Chris did a huge deal with Sony

1909
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:34,720
Speaker 1: SRC and then turned around and did a deal with

1910
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 1: a MG for while bread and brought me eighteen Carrot

1911
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 1: gooal on the list. I still have this watch. I

1912
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,080
Speaker 1: never just watching my life assisted my safe and I

1913
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:48,639
Speaker 1: can't wear it. He brought me a watch eighteen Carrigol

1914
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 1: rolettes Daytona on a leather band. Crocodile leather band is crazy.

1915
01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:58,719
Speaker 1: But let's talk about this watch later. But I felt

1916
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 1: like I deserved more because he got five million dollars

1917
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 1: from a MG and like four million dollars from Sony

1918
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 1: and he brought me a watch, and I felt like

1919
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 1: if I didn't put that album together, we wouldn't have

1920
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 1: got either one of those deals on top of what

1921
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 1: really made me leave, and I ain't got lot of you.

1922
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 1: I tried to leave a fifty set too, and it

1923
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 1: didn't work. I left with l L though. But when

1924
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:27,720
Speaker 1: I left, when when? At the time, Troy Carter shout

1925
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,920
Speaker 1: out to court, Troy Carter, Troy Carter was super hot

1926
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 1: with Eve. He was the only managing Eve. He wasn't

1927
01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 1: this Lady Gaga big guy right now, but he was

1928
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 1: only managing Eve. And Eve was hot, and Chris brought

1929
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 1: him in and gave him equity in the company, and

1930
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 1: I was it for me. I said, I'm out because

1931
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 1: someone knew got equity, because somebody who didn't put in

1932
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 1: the work that I did from the beginning Foxy Brown

1933
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 1: Buster Rhyn's ll O Coo J Valley accompilation album. You know,

1934
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 1: all of this ship is on my resume. That I

1935
01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 1: was still getting the check and somebody got equity in

1936
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 1: the company and only two people that have equity in

1937
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 1: the company was moaning Chris, and I felt like I

1938
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 1: was next in line, and then James and I didn't

1939
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 1: get it, and I was like, Marty, Marty, you next

1940
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 1: in line. I had an equity and the love of

1941
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:25,680
Speaker 1: hipp has it something else? Yeah? Drink drink you got shot? Okay, slowly,

1942
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 1: I have to pay drinking. These guys. You don't catch

1943
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:35,160
Speaker 1: me your guard. When I will say one thing, I'm

1944
01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 1: so you know again, I'm a generation under you guys.

1945
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:44,000
Speaker 1: Not to keep hiding you guys a little, but I

1946
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 1: will say that the impact that Violator had in the

1947
01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 1: culture is like I can never match because I when

1948
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 1: technically loving hip hop is Violator. Yeah, I mean yeah

1949
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:56,879
Speaker 1: in a way that is all the artists we represented

1950
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 1: when the great producers behind you, but respector Mouna Mona

1951
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 1: Scott always had the plan to be and that was

1952
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 1: her vision that you can never take that away from

1953
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 1: that way. She knew that's where she wanted to go.

1954
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 1: She was glad from Lexington Avenue. Mona even moved to

1955
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 1: twenty fIF Street for the last I want to say

1956
01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 1: three years of Mona being at Violator, all she thought

1957
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:32,840
Speaker 1: about was being in TV's absolutely innovator. And when she

1958
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 1: said TV, you ain't think about hobbying on TV, No,

1959
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 1: she knew where her next step was. That's the only

1960
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 1: thing about Mona Mona was always Mona was the visionary

1961
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:47,720
Speaker 1: of the company. Mona created the slogans for the company.

1962
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, like the Violator first

1963
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 1: album was called Hit SnO Hype, Mona came up with that.

1964
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:55,680
Speaker 1: That was Mona was the one who was the visionary

1965
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 1: and so where we were going as a company, and

1966
01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 1: she saw where she was going in terms of TV

1967
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:02,560
Speaker 1: and films. So when love and hip hop came, I

1968
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:04,840
Speaker 1: was like, that was of course we knew that was

1969
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:07,360
Speaker 1: gonna happen because Mona always knew she was going that way.

1970
01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:10,000
Speaker 1: She always had the strategy. Remember, Violator was a writer passage.

1971
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 1: From artist standpoint, you came through violated at some point.

1972
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:26,800
Speaker 1: It was Violet was violated. Was the Rutger. But Vitorfuff

1973
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:29,600
Speaker 1: past tour, Snoop Dogg and Puff Daddy on tour in

1974
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:34,520
Speaker 1: Europe in two thousand and three, that was a violated tour.

1975
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:39,320
Speaker 1: Chris left me and Harpus. You know what I'm saying,

1976
01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:40,960
Speaker 1: Like you have it was a writer pass like the

1977
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:44,440
Speaker 1: Rutger was. Every NBA star after college or when they

1978
01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:47,080
Speaker 1: got drafted had to play the Rutger. Every artist had

1979
01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 1: to come through violate. Some executives. We had Troy Carter,

1980
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:53,160
Speaker 1: we had John Monopoly, We hadn't been do you know

1981
01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 1: what I'm It was like, like you know it was

1982
01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:58,760
Speaker 1: it was almost like you had to come through there

1983
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 1: because you had to get that. You got to stand

1984
01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 1: next to Dobin. You just do a Laura dialin. But

1985
01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:10,960
Speaker 1: Claudine is doing her thing whatever. He's killing the women,

1986
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 1: Claudine for the executive that she's morphed into in the

1987
01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:31,880
Speaker 1: individual that she's morphed into. Chris Kea, like you have

1988
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:35,360
Speaker 1: to understand what was what was the tall girl Laura

1989
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 1: Laura associate? You have to like those days, Chris. You

1990
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:41,960
Speaker 1: don't one thing that Chris never did. I never didn't either.

1991
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 1: Hell not them back. Yeah, a lot of people can

1992
01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:48,840
Speaker 1: do a chest and don't want to next thing, you

1993
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 1: can say something that real quick. No, just even before

1994
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 1: the love and hip hop stuff, like when working at

1995
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:56,839
Speaker 1: Slip and Slide and Ted wanting to reinvigorate the management

1996
01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:59,360
Speaker 1: side of the label, which was boss Man management that

1997
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 1: originally was brought in by Red who managed Trina and Track.

1998
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 1: He wanted to bring it back because by a later

1999
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:07,640
Speaker 1: was what they were doing in the corporate space and everything,

2000
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:10,640
Speaker 1: like we literally Byron tries to manage flies at one

2001
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 1: point and I wanted to start the company and wanted

2002
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 1: to be the Violator of the South. That was our

2003
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:18,920
Speaker 1: goal because of what you guys brought together. So I

2004
01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:23,280
Speaker 1: think we're having a drink chance all moment one to three.

2005
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:30,440
Speaker 1: But a lot of the story that you had, you

2006
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:33,040
Speaker 1: had homeboy management and then you ended up with it

2007
01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:35,840
Speaker 1: was it was a constant mob d A lot of

2008
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people was like that. When you start

2009
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: out the game, you get hot and you realized, like, wait,

2010
01:59:41,160 --> 01:59:43,680
Speaker 1: this is another level of the game that my homeboy,

2011
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 1: who was running his management company out of his car,

2012
01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:50,760
Speaker 1: can't handle. But what made Violate the unique was it

2013
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:53,880
Speaker 1: was a dude who looked like your homeboy exactly. He

2014
01:59:54,000 --> 02:00:09,720
Speaker 1: looked just like your homeboy, but his coll before. So

2015
02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:12,040
Speaker 1: that's that's that's what it is. It was the first

2016
02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:15,000
Speaker 1: like facilitator because a lot of people don't know how

2017
02:00:15,080 --> 02:00:19,600
Speaker 1: important labels and management office has was no not not

2018
02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:23,200
Speaker 1: even relationships offices was because you know what happened is

2019
02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:27,040
Speaker 1: there's no financial I'm not me speaking from the artists

2020
02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:31,920
Speaker 1: point of view. I'm from lack of wherever. I'm from

2021
02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 1: from lack Frock. I got I make three thousand dollars

2022
02:00:35,640 --> 02:00:39,440
Speaker 1: a fucking year and now I'm making my first contract

2023
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:42,280
Speaker 1: is four dred thousand or whatever whatever. Right, my first

2024
02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:46,040
Speaker 1: solo flax vers I was like a hare in the

2025
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:48,640
Speaker 1: second on the fifth. But there's no person to teach

2026
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:52,320
Speaker 1: me how to maintain that money, and so all you

2027
02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 1: think is just I go from here, I go over there.

2028
02:00:55,280 --> 02:01:00,120
Speaker 1: The label the management company was that middle ground where you, oh,

2029
02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:02,960
Speaker 1: you sit down and this method man sitting there getting

2030
02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:05,200
Speaker 1: the haircut, like yo, man, I just funked up on

2031
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:08,880
Speaker 1: this investment. And you listen to them waiting to get

2032
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:11,560
Speaker 1: a cut from Chris, and you're like, oh, ship, and

2033
02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 1: then you listening to the next guy, and that's how

2034
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 1: you kind of learn financial statement. There was no artist development.

2035
02:01:19,160 --> 02:01:22,960
Speaker 1: There still isn't, no doubt like I wish, like I

2036
02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:25,480
Speaker 1: wish I could have spoke to Spop Smoke, like I

2037
02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:27,680
Speaker 1: wish I could have told him like, don't don't don't

2038
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:30,400
Speaker 1: stay in Hollywood. That's not that's not where they be,

2039
02:01:31,120 --> 02:01:32,400
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, that's where they all

2040
02:01:32,440 --> 02:01:34,640
Speaker 1: look like. This place is in Miami that I don't

2041
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:36,480
Speaker 1: give a funk what artist you is. I don't give

2042
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:38,360
Speaker 1: you want to stay at a tie I don't care.

2043
02:01:38,360 --> 02:01:39,960
Speaker 1: If you want to stay at the st regis don't

2044
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:41,960
Speaker 1: keep you want to stay at the W, Listen when

2045
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:44,080
Speaker 1: you post that picture, I know the room you win.

2046
02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:47,920
Speaker 1: Bro down me, no doll, no doubt. I've been out

2047
02:01:47,960 --> 02:01:51,920
Speaker 1: here fourteen years. There's no unless you're going to Star

2048
02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 1: Island and spending twenty million a night. I did, I can't.

2049
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:57,120
Speaker 1: I did the fire where you at, no doubt. But

2050
02:01:57,200 --> 02:01:59,240
Speaker 1: if you're spending some of y'all y'all in the night,

2051
02:01:59,360 --> 02:02:02,880
Speaker 1: I know when you post that y'all seven thirty eight

2052
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 1: the W South Beach. You had to stay one because

2053
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:12,880
Speaker 1: I stayed it everywhere. So you gotta relax and listen

2054
02:02:12,960 --> 02:02:15,920
Speaker 1: to your old We just discussed that we gotta pay

2055
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:17,800
Speaker 1: it forward. That's how a lot of the young, a

2056
02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:24,920
Speaker 1: lot of the a lot of That's one of my

2057
02:02:25,040 --> 02:02:27,560
Speaker 1: favorite Instagram pages. If you don't, if you don't, if

2058
02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 1: you don't listen, I'll tell people right now. If you

2059
02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:32,360
Speaker 1: don't listen to bas the o G Instagram page, I

2060
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:38,920
Speaker 1: don't like you. Yeah, yeah, you gotta don't like If

2061
02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:40,480
Speaker 1: you don't, if you don't know about him, like like

2062
02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:42,400
Speaker 1: like you don't have to follow him. But if you

2063
02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:44,400
Speaker 1: don't know about him. I just judge you. Like it's

2064
02:02:44,440 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 1: like like if you walk into a room, you don't

2065
02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:48,720
Speaker 1: got a good watch, as be looking at you do.

2066
02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:52,080
Speaker 1: I like watches, don't like watch. I like good watching

2067
02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:55,440
Speaker 1: watching for you know you got the president watch. I

2068
02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:57,200
Speaker 1: didn't say, I didn say president, don't look at my watching.

2069
02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:03,080
Speaker 1: I don't want back to show you know you can

2070
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 1: I know he left that watching whom he was talking

2071
02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:13,160
Speaker 1: about one yeah for his watch. Almost I would keep

2072
02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:14,840
Speaker 1: it all the way with you. Almost missed my flight

2073
02:03:14,920 --> 02:03:17,760
Speaker 1: this morning and walked out with left out with bracelet watch.

2074
02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:21,920
Speaker 1: Everything's okay, and you own like you own, like a

2075
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:24,160
Speaker 1: couple of what's the ship? Mom? So I invested in

2076
02:03:24,280 --> 02:03:28,080
Speaker 1: some Jersey mis franchises. I could get free Jersey Mike.

2077
02:03:28,200 --> 02:03:29,640
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I'm not. I'm not one of

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Speaker 1: those guys. I just want to discount, have free free

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Speaker 1: So wait a minute, that's that's Subways, little man. No,

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Speaker 1: it's Subways, big homie. I had a confuse. I thought

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Speaker 1: Jersey Mikes. No, it's just it's a. It's a. It's

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Speaker 1: a it's like upscale star staying in this place. And

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Speaker 1: like when I go to l A, when I'm on

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Speaker 1: the lower I stay in this place in Westwood and

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Speaker 1: in the building, I stare Jersey mis right, i'nder there.

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Speaker 1: And this is when I was trying to go local sandwich,

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Speaker 1: no brand. And then I go back and I wasn't satisfied.

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Speaker 1: Let me get the band let up. But so how

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Speaker 1: did this happen? Like, Um, I realized that I got

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Speaker 1: tired of chasing sixteen years around the country. That's sounding

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Speaker 1: a little crazy. That's just clarified that because creditor alright, no, no,

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Speaker 1: what I mean? So I started um managing this um

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Speaker 1: young kid who like when I started managing at one

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Speaker 1: point seven million and follow us no deal, no no

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Speaker 1: record in the street, no nothing right, And I got

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Speaker 1: offered like four million dollars to do this deal. Universal

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Speaker 1: Republic was in for like five million, and the kid

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Speaker 1: was like, nah, I want to do no deal. And

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Speaker 1: then there was promoters from around the country who I

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Speaker 1: was reaching out to, like yo, I got this kid.

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Speaker 1: It was offering like, you know, do ten thousands, like nah,

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Speaker 1: I want twenty thousand. And I realized, like all of

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Speaker 1: this money is slowing up because he keeps saying no,

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Speaker 1: and I and I just got tired of being dependent

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Speaker 1: on making money from other people. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: have a ten thousand square for a house that I

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Speaker 1: have to maintain. You know what I'm saying. I have.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I have. My daughter's tuition is forty seven

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Speaker 1: thousand a year for high school. Let's make some looist

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Speaker 1: and I'm keeping it. And so I gotta pay that

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Speaker 1: bill every month. I gotta wake up and pay that bill.

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Speaker 1: And if this kid says no, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: do something that takes from my bottom line, so I

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Speaker 1: had to start investing in other ship that would secure

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Speaker 1: that bottom line. So my transition, I'm still managing artists right,

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Speaker 1: but my transition is I want to manage products instead

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Speaker 1: of managing people, because products don't talk back. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us for another episode to Drink Champs hosted by

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