Speaker 1: It's nine with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hello, everybody,
Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of nine. O two one O
Speaker 1: m G. I'm here with my friend Tory and sistening.
Speaker 1: How how are you? You don't look like you feel
Speaker 1: so good today? Oh yeah, I'm still having some sinus trouble.
Speaker 1: So sorry if I sound nasally. Do I sound sexy though?
Speaker 1: You sound like you don't feel great? Yeah, damn it, sexy,
Speaker 1: I'm in sexy. Sexy. Um So, so let's jump right
Speaker 1: into this recap because that's what everyone wants. We've we've
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of flak. People don't like it when
Speaker 1: we talk, So let's talk about the show. That's all
Speaker 1: we're look I can't talk, We can't have a funch, Sorry,
Speaker 1: we can't have fun. This isn't our time as well,
Speaker 1: We'll do it this way and see if you really
Speaker 1: like it this way, because you know what, I thought,
Speaker 1: maybe it would be nice to have a little it
Speaker 1: chet before the episode, but apparently we'll save it for later.
Speaker 1: Maybe right, and so, Episode seventeen, stand Up and Deliver It,
Speaker 1: aired on March seventh, directed by Brinkerhoff, written by Darren
Speaker 1: Starr and Amy Spies, synopsis. Brenda, tired of being treated
Speaker 1: like a teen, moves out on her own into a
Speaker 1: shabby apartment owned by a hippie stand up comedian. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Brandon runs for junior class president against the fellow candidate
Speaker 1: and has to deal with Kelly and Andrea vuying to
Speaker 1: manage his campaign. What we do? Wow, I love of
Speaker 1: two women. Okay, what do you think about this episode? Well,
Speaker 1: go ahead, tour tell him how you fek about. So
Speaker 1: here's how I feel about this episode. You guys watching
Speaker 1: just as a fan, I'm going to tell you I
Speaker 1: wanted to uh literally rip each and every one of
Speaker 1: my eyelashes out and stab my eyeballs with them. Really,
Speaker 1: not a not a fan, not a fan. So you're
Speaker 1: saying you didn't like this episode. I'm saying I did
Speaker 1: not like this episode. I'm sorry. I love watching The Gang,
Speaker 1: but it just was born it was boring to me.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, a little too much class president stuff for me.
Speaker 1: Oh so that's stuff I didn't that. I didn't mind that.
Speaker 1: It was the coffeehouse that was the boring part for me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It just was really weirdly divided and it felt like
Speaker 1: a different show this week. It felt off point right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well the stuff at school honestly didn't bother me either,
Speaker 1: since like the president, Brandon running for president and I
Speaker 1: don't know, I did not like Kelly in this episode
Speaker 1: at all. I felt like, who is this character that
Speaker 1: I'm playing? Who are the words are saying? She was
Speaker 1: just like conniving and manipulative, and yeah, she was the
Speaker 1: first lady she was she was she should be the president.
Speaker 1: I guess she should have run for president herself. I
Speaker 1: liked it though. We got a first taste of what
Speaker 1: you and Brandon would be like as a team. I
Speaker 1: like that as an alady, Like, yeah, this was the
Speaker 1: first episode that Brenda, No, Kelly and Brandon worked together
Speaker 1: more closely. Brenda was off on her own. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what the heck where did she go? What? What?
Speaker 1: What got into her? She got like a bee in
Speaker 1: her bonnet or something. Isn't that the expert to be
Speaker 1: in her? But I don't know. She just didn't want
Speaker 1: to be a part of the group anymore. She didn't
Speaker 1: want to live at home anymore. She didn't want to
Speaker 1: do anything but hang out with the coffeehouse people. Oh man,
Speaker 1: but Kelly and Donna did did your this is true, Brandon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that happened to but I forgot about that, right.
Speaker 1: So they were supposed to go out to the club,
Speaker 1: and but they did. They went with her to the
Speaker 1: comedy club the first time, and Kelly was a bitch
Speaker 1: or rooney. She was like, it's not funny and the
Speaker 1: coffee is toxic. She was so rude. I hated her.
Speaker 1: I hated myself. Yeah, Brenda, Brenda, she found a new family.
Speaker 1: Think like stand up comedy, why why that? And on
Speaker 1: a couch and no offense, no offense to the writers whatsoever.
Speaker 1: We're just you know, talking here as viewers and fans
Speaker 1: of the show. Um. But I didn't think any of
Speaker 1: the comedy was funny either. Like I didn't have a
Speaker 1: chuckle at all. Wasn't that the whole point of going
Speaker 1: to a comedy club is to have a laugh, And
Speaker 1: I didn't have any. Yes, maybe it was funny back then.
Speaker 1: Maybe that was like the thing like to be cool
Speaker 1: and artsy. And I think coffee house and deliver comedy
Speaker 1: that's not really comedy, but like it's more like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the guy that the well First of all, the Sky
Speaker 1: was the first comedian that you kind of get to
Speaker 1: see she's laying on the couch, which was kind of
Speaker 1: weird that, you know, I've never seen a comedian lay
Speaker 1: on the couch and do a set. But okay, um,
Speaker 1: but she was great. I felt like, you know, that
Speaker 1: was Carrie Hamilton's played that role. And you guys know
Speaker 1: who Carrie Hamilton's was. She was the daughter of Carol
Speaker 1: Burnett m hm, who's just like a comedy you know icon.
Speaker 1: And I thought she was great. I thought she did
Speaker 1: a really good job and she just didn't have enough
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah. I felt like she remember watching that
Speaker 1: when we filmed it, me too and being kind of like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, she's so lover and she looks a
Speaker 1: lot like her mom, and it just what there was
Speaker 1: like a whole vibe about her that was really cool.
Speaker 1: Was that a set or was that actually a club?
Speaker 1: You guys want to I feel like, do you feel
Speaker 1: like that was the peach Pit after Dark? Before the
Speaker 1: peach Pit after Dark existed? I totally feel you're right,
Speaker 1: yes it was. I feel like that was like the
Speaker 1: warehouse sext door to the jail sales where we lived.
Speaker 1: And the at first they made it be uh, this weird.
Speaker 1: They had They probably used it for a bunch of
Speaker 1: different sets, but just felt like that same space layout
Speaker 1: kind of as the peach after Dark there you go
Speaker 1: unt like that recap fans, there's a little easter egg, huh.
Speaker 1: And maybe the coffeehouse comedy situation was intended to be
Speaker 1: our new hangout or something. Maybe it was gonna be
Speaker 1: more so because they went to great you know, trouble
Speaker 1: and expense to build that set out. But it was
Speaker 1: pretty you know, there was a lot there and then
Speaker 1: it didn't work, so they moved on to something else. Well,
Speaker 1: it could have been our central perk. Who knew? It
Speaker 1: could have been our peach pit after dark. Good thing
Speaker 1: it wasn't, but then it was. But I did feel
Speaker 1: bad a little bit for Brenda, like she just felt
Speaker 1: sort of ostracized and not really in the groove with everybody,
Speaker 1: and to have her friends flat lever like that for
Speaker 1: her brother was kind of like a minute Brandon was
Speaker 1: going to be running for class president. It instantly made
Speaker 1: him hotter in a weird way, especially Kelly to me
Speaker 1: and yeah, but it's just like like in one scene,
Speaker 1: I think Donna's like kissing him in the kitchen and
Speaker 1: You're like rubbing up on him. Tory. Yeah, you walk
Speaker 1: right up to branded and plant your lips. They're big,
Speaker 1: juicy lips right on his cheek, and then like kind
Speaker 1: of like in slow mode too. Yeah. Wow. I mean
Speaker 1: his little suit jackets looked good in this episode. The
Speaker 1: whole thing going on, he did. He looked good. He
Speaker 1: came out hot though. He came out of the gate
Speaker 1: hot with with Andrea at school, even discussing running for president.
Speaker 1: And he was like, you know this, poor Andre. He's
Speaker 1: up and down with her, back and forth, like I'm
Speaker 1: into you, I'm flirting with you know, we're just friends.
Speaker 1: Like every episode, I feel like they have a different
Speaker 1: thing going, and this one he was really flirty with
Speaker 1: her in the very beginning. But then she was not
Speaker 1: happy that Kelly was going to be part of the campaign.
Speaker 1: That that burst her bubble just a dad a little
Speaker 1: bit little l Yeah, and you came with your clipper clipboard,
Speaker 1: and I was I was prepared. I had my lookboard,
Speaker 1: my vision board prepared. I don't know what was written
Speaker 1: on that clipboard when I was carrying around, but it
Speaker 1: must have been really good stuff. He just probably had
Speaker 1: a bunch of like curly cues and hearts and yeah,
Speaker 1: rainbows and unicorns probably, but Kelly's. Kelly's whole vision was
Speaker 1: for Brandon to just be hot and look hot and
Speaker 1: then people would vote for him. I mean it kind
Speaker 1: of makes sense. It was the nineties, like not a
Speaker 1: bad tactile move. Then Andre is like, Crill, what do
Speaker 1: you know about politics? What do you even know? I
Speaker 1: was thinking, she don't know nothing. She knows about fashion politics,
Speaker 1: pulling up old people that were running for politics, and
Speaker 1: like she knew how to create the image the man.
Speaker 1: She's the word behind the man. That there's always the
Speaker 1: woman behind the man, right that That's what they say,
Speaker 1: at least behind every good man is a great woman.
Speaker 1: But I think we could flip that and say behind
Speaker 1: every good woman is a another great woman, or maybe
Speaker 1: another great woman, but it could be a great man.
Speaker 1: You know, did you guys see how do you feel
Speaker 1: about Brandon's video campaign? Like his I guess David cut
Speaker 1: that together sexy. I just it was just odd how
Speaker 1: what we saw the video content was actually clips from
Speaker 1: the beginning of the show. So I was just curious
Speaker 1: how David Silver get his hands in Aaron Spelling's vault
Speaker 1: of video footage how do you have access to that
Speaker 1: stuff to make that David Silver, he can get in
Speaker 1: touch with anyone. Happened Debbie Gibson. But it was a
Speaker 1: little weird his video that it was like the opening
Speaker 1: credits of the show. Well, I had to work with
Speaker 1: what we had. Brenda seemed like, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say gullible. I guess that's not
Speaker 1: the right word. Maybe the word is um impressionable. She's
Speaker 1: very impressionable, and and that's okay. Like she's young, she's
Speaker 1: trying to figure herself out, and she's trying to decide
Speaker 1: what fits for her, and I guess this was just
Speaker 1: another thing she was sort of checking out to see
Speaker 1: if this made her feel complete somehow. I like these
Speaker 1: she tries people. Yeah, I mean right, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: the time in your life, formative years. Figure it out.
Speaker 1: And even that first day at the club, when the
Speaker 1: comedian was picking on Kelly, she stepped in and stuck
Speaker 1: up for her right away. I thought that was pretty
Speaker 1: badass for being like sixteen. I would never do that.
Speaker 1: Her hair looked really pretty too. I was gonna say
Speaker 1: that about your hair. I was actually gonna ask you,
Speaker 1: that's your real hair. If there was extensions in this episode,
Speaker 1: it looked so full. No, that was my hair. We
Speaker 1: didn't we didn't wear extensions back then. That wasn't the thing. No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. Never, nobody ever had had extensions. I don't know,
Speaker 1: would you ever do stand up? Oh wait, wait, sorry,
Speaker 1: we can't talk about ourselves. We have to just talk
Speaker 1: about Okay, come on, you totally can. Let's just address that. Okay.
Speaker 1: So a lot of yours are saying how they feel
Speaker 1: about the show, which is what we asked for. We
Speaker 1: asked for you guys to listen and to comment and
Speaker 1: to give us your you know, opinion and your advice.
Speaker 1: And we love that and we're so grateful. And I
Speaker 1: read it and and I do take the constructive criticism,
Speaker 1: and we do try to make adjustments to things that work,
Speaker 1: you know. But there was a whole argument, I guess,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where it ended up on what platform,
Speaker 1: But some people are saying how they love when we
Speaker 1: chit chat and banter and like go off topic, and
Speaker 1: some people really don't like it. M h m hmm.
Speaker 1: I think it was more specific to when we start
Speaker 1: the podcast. Some were arguing that they would like it
Speaker 1: if we just jumped into the episode right away versus
Speaker 1: having our chit chat at the top of the show.
Speaker 1: I mean, my thing about that is this is our
Speaker 1: lives too. Like we're seeing each other for we're on Zoom.
Speaker 1: We're not together, and fortunately we're all friends. So when
Speaker 1: we see each other, we want to say hi and
Speaker 1: like see how everyone's week is. Like it's kind of
Speaker 1: that I don't know. And also like our listeners, they
Speaker 1: feel like our friends, Like you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: we can talk about anything with with our listeners, the
Speaker 1: people that love us, and you know, I want to
Speaker 1: hang out with us for an hour, like I feel,
Speaker 1: I feel like we're talking to girlfriends. I just want
Speaker 1: to give you a little appetizer before the entree, exactly
Speaker 1: right right into the entree. It's not done. So today
Speaker 1: we did and unnatural, Yeah it did. It felt weird.
Speaker 1: I wanted to say hi to you guys, and I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, here we go on task. This
Speaker 1: is how I look at it. There are thousands of
Speaker 1: people that listen to this podcast, okay, and it's growing
Speaker 1: every single week, and there's just a very very small
Speaker 1: handful that decided to write a comment on Instagram of
Speaker 1: those thousands of people that are probably just enjoying it
Speaker 1: as is, So I would say take it with a
Speaker 1: grain of salt, but always open. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I just I'm just messing with you, guys, like it
Speaker 1: doesn't really bother me, and I don't because you know what,
Speaker 1: everybody has an opinion. Obviously everybody can voice their opinion.
Speaker 1: So you know how scared I was to do this
Speaker 1: podcast with you guys, because yeah, because I was just
Speaker 1: like I felt all this pressure of like being a
Speaker 1: fan of the show and trying to like ask the
Speaker 1: right questions and then of course, like first two or
Speaker 1: three episodes and people are attacking me like you're not
Speaker 1: a real super fan, Like like whoa, Okay, I'm there.
Speaker 1: There are so many different levels of fans out there,
Speaker 1: and you're right, maybe I'm not as much of a
Speaker 1: super fan that you are, but I'm a fan and
Speaker 1: we it's also been many years and I forget things.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, well we do. We have some super loyal,
Speaker 1: very impic fans. You can see it in their eyes,
Speaker 1: just a super fan. Yeah, I love them. And they
Speaker 1: they're so helpful informative because they know way more than
Speaker 1: we do. Yeah, and they never want to be in
Speaker 1: that category. Don't put me in that category. You guys
Speaker 1: are on a whole other level. You are blue Ribbons.
Speaker 1: I'm just SUPERSI supersis that likes the show, fan of
Speaker 1: the show, super sis. I love that. But well, whatever,
Speaker 1: if you like it, listen if you don't, you know,
Speaker 1: there's another bit of drama if you guys want to
Speaker 1: address it. Wait, where are we not talking about the
Speaker 1: show anymore? Is that? Just? Thank god we can it's
Speaker 1: the campaign, it's the coffee house. I'm I'm over it.
Speaker 1: Let's go to spoiler spoiler alert. Brandon doesn't end up
Speaker 1: winning president. That's the right thing. He's a good We
Speaker 1: could come back to the episode after any but I
Speaker 1: did want to bring up something that was, um, I
Speaker 1: guess in the news about Vanessa Marceill. I just saw
Speaker 1: that article. Okay, I only saw the article because you
Speaker 1: guys sent it to me, because how would I have
Speaker 1: ever seen it. I don't know where was it published,
Speaker 1: what where did it? Was it an interview or was
Speaker 1: it an Instagram live? I'm very confused. It was a
Speaker 1: video interview published to Instagram on February a video interview
Speaker 1: by who published to Instagram. But she even she posted
Speaker 1: it that I don't know. Interesting, Um, so she's saying
Speaker 1: she's so she's opening up about the show and why
Speaker 1: she had to leave, saying I was I didn't know
Speaker 1: she had to leave, Like I didn't know she left
Speaker 1: the show. No, she's not on it anymore. The show
Speaker 1: is not on it. I'm aware that she stopped being
Speaker 1: on the show. I was not aware that she left
Speaker 1: the show. What are you trying to say? Misspelling? I
Speaker 1: just don't remember that character going on. I think it was,
Speaker 1: but you know what, maybe I remember wrong. Rarely, I'm
Speaker 1: not even sure what season it was. That it's all
Speaker 1: a blur, all the all the season's blend together. So
Speaker 1: we haven't gotten to those episodes yet. The character we're
Speaker 1: talking about is Gina. She played my my cousin, Donna's cousin. Okay, see,
Speaker 1: I don't know because I haven't watched it. So well,
Speaker 1: apparently you gave her some really great advice. This is
Speaker 1: what's crazy is that she really vividly recalls something I
Speaker 1: said to her, which is interesting because what you she
Speaker 1: claims you say said, what she claims that you said,
Speaker 1: I can't picture you ever saying that that doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like something you would even say. That seems like me now,
Speaker 1: something I would say now because it's a very evolved well,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine young Jenny, you know, off that being
Speaker 1: so presumptive or bold to say like, I know what's
Speaker 1: what you should do? Do you want to do? You
Speaker 1: want to say? What it? What she said? You said,
Speaker 1: I gotta find it. I gotta find it while you're
Speaker 1: finding it. I'm I'm gonna go on record. I hung
Speaker 1: out with Vanessa a lot. She was she was always
Speaker 1: great to me, always very nice, very professional. I don't
Speaker 1: remember her having a bad time or a hard go
Speaker 1: at it or even presenting problems like. She was very
Speaker 1: well liked. She's the type of girl that has no
Speaker 1: problem fitting in anywhere she's she's very confidentality. But this,
Speaker 1: this article or whatever video whatever it was, made, it
Speaker 1: seemed like she really had a bad experience on the
Speaker 1: show and that everyone was super catty, and that she
Speaker 1: said that the cattiness side swiped her, which I didn't
Speaker 1: really know what that meant, Like who was being catty?
Speaker 1: I wasn't clear on That doesn't really matter, but just
Speaker 1: like maybe it was just the energy or the there
Speaker 1: was a lot of female cast members. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: at that point there were only three other female cast
Speaker 1: members left. It was you, me and Lindsay. Hmm, okay,
Speaker 1: well that downtown. Well maybe the boys were Caddie. You
Speaker 1: don't know. And was she wait? Was she in her? Okay?
Speaker 1: Was was Vanessa at that time in a relationship with
Speaker 1: Brian Green? Or was was that before after her relationship
Speaker 1: with Brian happened right after after she was on the show. Yes,
Speaker 1: they met on the show, and remember he liked her,
Speaker 1: but she didn't like him back. And then after the
Speaker 1: show ended they started going out. Well that's nice. I'm
Speaker 1: glad that there was a love match there and they
Speaker 1: made She's a Beautiful Baby together. She's saying that Jenny
Speaker 1: Garth took her aside on set one day to make
Speaker 1: a suggestion. She said, maybe it would help if you
Speaker 1: didn't walk around like somebody who isn't liked me. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing that I could say that two ways. Here's
Speaker 1: here's one way. Okay, maybe I was gonna act it
Speaker 1: out for you. Here's what Maybe it would help if
Speaker 1: you didn't walk around like somebody isn't liked. Okay, young
Speaker 1: Jenny maybe said it that way, or maybe young Jenny
Speaker 1: was wise beyond her years and said, maybe it would
Speaker 1: help if you didn't walk around like somebody isn't liked
Speaker 1: you know what. Neither of those sound good, and neither
Speaker 1: of those sound like you. Now, I'm gonna go on
Speaker 1: record that you didn't say that, because I know you
Speaker 1: weren't there. I was there apparently, but I don't know
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Here's the thing, no matter how she
Speaker 1: phrases it, it has a negative connotation to it. Someone
Speaker 1: who's not like. It sounds like you're saying someone who's
Speaker 1: not liked like. It's already negative from start to finish.
Speaker 1: Anyway you say that, and I I just don't that
Speaker 1: was never First of all, you and Vanessa weren't that close, Like,
Speaker 1: we didn't really work together that much. Did my cousin.
Speaker 1: I worked a lot with her. I don't remember you
Speaker 1: guys having that many interactions. So I don't believe that
Speaker 1: you would take it upon yourself to be like, here's
Speaker 1: why you're acting like someone who's not like. So that's
Speaker 1: why you're going to be not liked, like, I don't
Speaker 1: know whatever, However, it was meant, and however it was taken.
Speaker 1: It is good advice. It is sound advice if you
Speaker 1: think about it, because we do walk around sometimes thinking
Speaker 1: everything is about us, and we do walk around taking
Speaker 1: everything everyone says personally. And that for me as a
Speaker 1: grown woman, has been a huge thing to learn and
Speaker 1: a huge thing to start practicing, because especially in our
Speaker 1: business and and in our what we do and what
Speaker 1: we've done since we were so young, it's always about
Speaker 1: are we good enough? Do people like us? Am I
Speaker 1: what they want right in this moment? And and there's
Speaker 1: always been this energy of a creative I mean not
Speaker 1: a creative, but a competitive environment amongst especially women, and
Speaker 1: that has shifted now in a beautiful way. Um and
Speaker 1: now you know, the messaging is much different and women
Speaker 1: are allowed, somehow in a different way to support each
Speaker 1: other and be each other's cheerleaders. And I just feel
Speaker 1: like that's why I said it sounds like something I
Speaker 1: would say now rather than as a young person, because I,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a good message. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just wish we could have an opportunity to go back
Speaker 1: and talk to I mean, let's get in our time.
Speaker 1: I said something now, Vanessa Marcela is saying something. I
Speaker 1: would love the opportunity to go back and be like,
Speaker 1: how did you it, Here's how we saw it, and
Speaker 1: then talk it out, because the truth is somewhere in
Speaker 1: the middle, like we were all young finding our ways.
Speaker 1: Who knows what truly transpired or what each of us
Speaker 1: were feeling. From my perception, Vanessa was a kick ass girl,
Speaker 1: like she came in, competent, beautiful, good actress, professional, always
Speaker 1: showed up. Um. I don't remember her having a bad time,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what was going on inside. Maybe
Speaker 1: she didn't divulge that. Yeah, And like I mean, I
Speaker 1: think to her point from what I sort of gleamed
Speaker 1: from the article, she was saying that she was in
Speaker 1: a bad place in her personal life, in her development,
Speaker 1: Like she was in that place where she took everything
Speaker 1: too personally and she was too affected by all the
Speaker 1: things around her, not just this situation, but many many things.
Speaker 1: Like you know, on any given day, our brains are
Speaker 1: like and our minds just go in a million different directions.
Speaker 1: And if we let our minds sort of like rule
Speaker 1: the roost and and and lead us down, every path
Speaker 1: that wants to lead is down. It's exhausting and it's
Speaker 1: it's an emotional roller coaster. So I think that she
Speaker 1: was kind of talking about how now she's learned that
Speaker 1: not everything needs to be taken personally. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: one of the four agreements. If you guys have read
Speaker 1: that book, which is a right book, you should read it.
Speaker 1: I need to reread it. Yeah, it's like one of
Speaker 1: the four agreements. Don't take anything personally because it's not
Speaker 1: about you. I have a I have a friend, and
Speaker 1: um a doctor, a friend of mine, doctor Amon, who
Speaker 1: he has this theory and I'm gonna get the numbers wrong,
Speaker 1: but it's like eighteen forty sixty or something like that.
Speaker 1: When you're eighteen, you think about you, think everything is
Speaker 1: about you. You think everybody's talking about you. When you're forty,
Speaker 1: you don't care if anybody's talking about you, and when
Speaker 1: you're sixty you realize nobody was ever talking about you.
Speaker 1: It's really really good. It's good, right, it is on
Speaker 1: that note, let's take a break and come back, And
Speaker 1: it looked like Tor was about to say something, so
Speaker 1: hold that, thought, Tor, we'll come back and retrial the episode.
Speaker 1: Hey guys, we're back. So I'm still feeling a wettle
Speaker 1: fired up about this Vanessa situation because we were friends.
Speaker 1: I felt like I felt like we all got along well.
Speaker 1: So I think we should have her on the show
Speaker 1: and kind of talk her through her experience. I want
Speaker 1: to hear honestly what her experience was like me too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would love that opportunity to to see what what
Speaker 1: she meant by her comment. And you know, I remember
Speaker 1: Vanessa was always very spiritual and very enlightened, very cool
Speaker 1: like girl. So I wanted to love growth. Let's all
Speaker 1: let's all grow if the Yeah, let's if let's all
Speaker 1: grow through something. I don't know, it would be fun.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Praise Vanessa, come on the show. Any who?
Speaker 1: Should we talk more about the episode? Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: it that you hated this. A few more eyelashes out
Speaker 1: and stabbed my eyeballs, Okay, go on. I know it
Speaker 1: wasn't my favorite episode either. You know what takeaway that
Speaker 1: I got from this episode was the way that Brenda
Speaker 1: and Kelly fight or are you? It was like a
Speaker 1: very it was almost a very like classy way of
Speaker 1: just like bickering at each other throughout the episode until
Speaker 1: you finally have your blowout. Your you blow up at
Speaker 1: the very end. I know, when did they start fighting?
Speaker 1: When did that happens? Like you almost don't notice it,
Speaker 1: but it was just like yeah, then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like you guys were at the lockers and like it
Speaker 1: was going going back and forth, and then Kelly made
Speaker 1: a comment about her costume that she was weary friend
Speaker 1: to take off that costume. Yeah, I mean see, I
Speaker 1: said Kelly is a bitch. In this episode, Kelly had
Speaker 1: her moments of bitchiness, but yeah, throughout the season. I
Speaker 1: mean that's what you hired me to do. I was
Speaker 1: just doing my job. I don't know why you're surprised
Speaker 1: when you see yourself up in a bitchy episode. It's
Speaker 1: like that was kind of your character. I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know my fittest people. Um hold on, But you're right.
Speaker 1: I did notice like Brendan Kelly were a little caddy
Speaker 1: to each other and like right, like I didn't know why. Oh, now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, she needed an antagonist, and I
Speaker 1: guess that they decided it would be Kelly in this
Speaker 1: episode with the bill write it in, Well, I think
Speaker 1: that's also because you did she just keep saying you
Speaker 1: like I get it. It was a character. It's very confusing,
Speaker 1: I know, but I think it's because I'm sorry because
Speaker 1: Kelly digits are for her brother, her twin brother, Brandon,
Speaker 1: and I feel like there's some hurt there. Then let's
Speaker 1: talk about that. Yeah, but they're not gonna talk about it.
Speaker 1: How about when Brenda just moves out mom and there's
Speaker 1: no there's no discussion with mom and dad. Just all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Brandon's using her room as his campaign
Speaker 1: headquarters and mom and dad are and they're making buttons
Speaker 1: or whatever they're doing. I actually rewound it because I
Speaker 1: thought I missed something. I was like, why was that allowed? Yeah,
Speaker 1: in what world do you just let your sixteen year
Speaker 1: old daughter kind of move out? But then they explain
Speaker 1: it was just supposed to be for three days. It
Speaker 1: was like a trial thing. But even still, that's weird.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Jim and Cindy, I questioned that that
Speaker 1: it's a very convenient Yeah, exactly. Yeah, And then she
Speaker 1: goes to watch Sky's apartment and feed her fish, and
Speaker 1: then we never see Sky again, but we see Jack
Speaker 1: again the comedy, the super super funny not guy comedian,
Speaker 1: And then I thought, oh, No, is there going to
Speaker 1: be like a love thing with him because he's an
Speaker 1: older man? And then and then up randomly. Maybe he's
Speaker 1: gonna keep being the Maybe there's gonna be a love thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know. They're gonna make spaghetti out of a can.
Speaker 1: It would be with no and not even warm it up.
Speaker 1: You know, I have politics and stand up comedy. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, you guys getting into the next episode. I
Speaker 1: can't what a combo? Right? You know the icon for
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime when I watched it was YouTube in your
Speaker 1: matching campaign outfits. That was the icon for this episode. What, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's funny. The thumbnail whatever you call it, I call
Speaker 1: it a thumbnail, Like is that just when it's like
Speaker 1: the little picture. It's a weird word expression. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even into the fashion. This episode was weird,
Speaker 1: Like it's just like everything just like I don't know
Speaker 1: what was happening. I liked Brenda's costume. I like that
Speaker 1: she was wearing. Maybe not the hat, but I love
Speaker 1: the dress. Yeah, Donna and Kelly were sporting the blazers
Speaker 1: a lot. They were trying to look real professional, not
Speaker 1: even like colorful. You had a long red coat, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. You had a daisy on your butt
Speaker 1: of your shorts. I noticed, Yeah, with that white crop top.
Speaker 1: That was fun. Yeah, it was just h It's a
Speaker 1: real bumber. You guys weren't able to keep the clothes
Speaker 1: from every episode. It makes no sense to me. Where
Speaker 1: did you go? They auctioned it off. There was a
Speaker 1: big auction. I think after the show they the wardrobe off.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yes, oh, I wish I would have
Speaker 1: gone to the auction. I know I would have put
Speaker 1: one of my own pieces, and now I have nothing. Great. Thanks,
Speaker 1: that's so crazy. You would think you you would have
Speaker 1: first DIBs. I know, were why when we can at
Speaker 1: least you know a flyer about the auction flyer. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you Iron has pieces, like he kept certain words.
Speaker 1: He has pieces because remember when we when we did
Speaker 1: B eight nine or two and O, like afterwards they
Speaker 1: were like selling off like you could buy like a
Speaker 1: discounted a discount of price from the wardrobe, and it
Speaker 1: was like, guys, be smart about this. We need to
Speaker 1: buy these pieces because you want to have this in
Speaker 1: your arsenal for yours. I don't have I don't have
Speaker 1: an arsenal we'd love to meet him too, and I
Speaker 1: maybe have him on this show hasn't worked out. I
Speaker 1: feel like everyone, you guys bring him up the most
Speaker 1: iron because you love him. I know where the hell
Speaker 1: is iron searing. He's like the big brother you always wanted.
Speaker 1: Pretty much, we all love him, love him, he's loved.
Speaker 1: Why do you say that? Why do we say we
Speaker 1: love him? Why do you say he's like the big
Speaker 1: brother you always wanted because you could go to him
Speaker 1: for advice or he made you laugh or he always
Speaker 1: made us laugh first of all, Like, yeah, he's foremost hysterical,
Speaker 1: but he's also just a good guy. And like he's
Speaker 1: he's accessible, he's available, Like when you talk to him,
Speaker 1: you feel like he's listening. And yeah, you know you
Speaker 1: feel as you feel like you're connected with him. When
Speaker 1: you're with him, it's nice, kind and loving, nurturing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and such a great dad. Now, Like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: when I see the pictures of his little girls in
Speaker 1: their cute little family, like his girl time with his kid,
Speaker 1: it's like it makes me so happy because I know
Speaker 1: those girls are laughing their asses off all the time,
Speaker 1: Like I know that they love their dad. They're like
Speaker 1: dad is so much fun. And that makes me really
Speaker 1: happy for not just those kids, but for him because
Speaker 1: I know it makes him happy to make them happy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, come on the show. Jeez, another invitation? Is
Speaker 1: that not a good invitation? Send him that clip and
Speaker 1: this is how much we talk about you on the
Speaker 1: podcast all the time. Please come on. Maybe if we
Speaker 1: stopped talking about him, then he would get mad and
Speaker 1: then he would come Onlogy, I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh boy, we had um. Yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 1: a good fashion episode, but there was some good one
Speaker 1: liners m sprinkled throughout, some really great lines. What was
Speaker 1: your your feve? I really liked Have you ever felt
Speaker 1: like a phone call that's been disconnected? Brenda wash all
Speaker 1: the time? Would you guys like my line? Uh? My
Speaker 1: line was from um Andrea Zuckerman. She said it's perfect.
Speaker 1: No one knows you well enough to hate you, and
Speaker 1: I thought, Wow, she's right. That's a good place to sit.
Speaker 1: No one knows you well enough to hate you. We're
Speaker 1: screwed because people know us too well. They get to
Speaker 1: love us or hate us. What about you? Sis? Um,
Speaker 1: I have to So this one's from Brenda and it
Speaker 1: was to your parents, says you raised me so well,
Speaker 1: I'm ahead of myself. That's confusing, I know, but it's
Speaker 1: such a teenage thing to say to your parents. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then this one is funny. Um it's from Kelly
Speaker 1: and she says the photo places closed soon when you
Speaker 1: were taking pictures of Brandon for the campaign. She mentions
Speaker 1: that she has to take it to the photo place
Speaker 1: to have the pictures developed. And it was just more
Speaker 1: like remember those whipper snappers out there probably don't remember
Speaker 1: when you had to actually rewind your camera, the film,
Speaker 1: actual film in your camera and take it, put it
Speaker 1: in a little envelope, remember, and fill out the form.
Speaker 1: Now we get the best though, because sometimes like it
Speaker 1: wasn't instant gratification, you had to wait a week and
Speaker 1: like if you had gone to a party or been
Speaker 1: doing something you would get the phos photos back. Did
Speaker 1: you ever get photos back? You're like, WHOA, I didn't
Speaker 1: remember that happening. Ye show your Night on Old You're like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. And then one hour photo came out
Speaker 1: and the world changed for an instant. In an instant,
Speaker 1: we could get our pictures in one hour. I guess
Speaker 1: you didn't really take as many like lame photos. Then
Speaker 1: you you were more specific about what you were taking
Speaker 1: pictures of. You didn't take a picture of your salad
Speaker 1: Y had for lunch, or like right now, or the
Speaker 1: same photo fifty of the same photo exactly. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I try to do that sometimes, to go back to
Speaker 1: that mentality of just taking like the one photo, and
Speaker 1: it's it's impossible, because why yeah, And sometimes if I
Speaker 1: have like extra time on my hands, I'll go through
Speaker 1: my camera roll and take all the bad ones and
Speaker 1: delete them and just try to narrow it down to
Speaker 1: the like winner. It's endless though, it's impossible. Um. We
Speaker 1: have a few emails from some listeners. Um, I think
Speaker 1: we should take a break, okay and come back with
Speaker 1: those Let's do it all right, ladies. A couple of questions. Um.
Speaker 1: This one is from Pomona Underscore Mama. She says, I
Speaker 1: recently came across the pod loving it. We have a
Speaker 1: fan that's happy. Guys. I watched Nino two religiously for
Speaker 1: the first few years and then off and on towards
Speaker 1: the end, after the college years. Where would each character
Speaker 1: be ine? Oh wow, that's a good question. You have
Speaker 1: to really like give that some thought though, Yeah, take
Speaker 1: your time, heavy one, Okay, I'll just I'll go first
Speaker 1: with let's pick a character. I'm gonna go easy, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Steve Sanders is now all grows up
Speaker 1: and he owns uh a like a customizing shop for
Speaker 1: um fancy corvettes. He owns like he owns like a
Speaker 1: chain of like Sanders sand I don't know, Sanders Automotives
Speaker 1: or something like where he would be so mad at
Speaker 1: you wait, I can step in here on that one.
Speaker 1: So years ago, Ian and I were at a fan
Speaker 1: convention and they asked him that, and he said that
Speaker 1: I'm not going to quote it verbat him that Steve
Speaker 1: Sanders owned was a very huge, like big international, like
Speaker 1: entrepreneur speaker. He owned his own island, kind of like
Speaker 1: um Jo Brand Sampson Richard Brampson. That's where Iron said
Speaker 1: Steve was, and that he was single. That sounds fun,
Speaker 1: Yeah right, good for have much better than an automotive dealer.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I thought, when you said you're gonna go
Speaker 1: with easy, we're gonna go with your own character. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that's hard. That one's harder for me to
Speaker 1: pin her down. I mean another easy one would be Andrea.
Speaker 1: I think Andrea has gone on to become the first
Speaker 1: female president of sag Aftra and she plans to run
Speaker 1: for president of the United States. In's I like that one.
Speaker 1: It's actually real life. Only she would run for president.
Speaker 1: Would be so amazing. I could see it happening. Will
Speaker 1: Smith just announced he wants to run for office. It's
Speaker 1: like jump on the free for all. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: free for all. M hmm. What about Donna? I feel
Speaker 1: you know me, I'm gonna be sappy and be like
Speaker 1: David and Donna are still married. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: like that storyline in Love and a Ton of Kids.
Speaker 1: I do hope that Donna is still like isn't a
Speaker 1: fashion though, because that was really important to her. So
Speaker 1: I hope she has a fashion line or does something
Speaker 1: styling or something that would make her happy in the
Speaker 1: fashion world. I feel like Donna still keeps it very
Speaker 1: interesting in the bedroom for David as well what I
Speaker 1: think she does and all the marriage she works at it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: America's most famous virgin is now into B D s M.
Speaker 1: Probably not that extreme, but yeah, I kind of want
Speaker 1: Kelly and Donna to have gone off to New York
Speaker 1: City and be living together still like sex in the city,
Speaker 1: like parallel universe. Damn it, we should have done that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that idea. Kelly and Donna take Manhattan? Is
Speaker 1: it still? Is it too late? No? I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: Manhattan's already been taken. M hmm. Okay, who else is there? Brekendon?
Speaker 1: Where's Brandon Walsh? Oh my gosh, this is hard, This
Speaker 1: is too hard. Brandon Brandon? Well, maybe he moved back
Speaker 1: to Minnesota and he runs a cattle farm. I don't know. Maybe,
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's a farmer now, who knows. He
Speaker 1: wanted to be a politician. He wanted to be in politics.
Speaker 1: Right later in the series, I think he ends up
Speaker 1: branding for president too against Andrea. I could see Brandon
Speaker 1: after all coming back to his like stomping ground and
Speaker 1: being a school teacher. Oh really, he'd be a favorite
Speaker 1: school teacher. Kids would like him. And where's Brenda? Where's Brenda? Now?
Speaker 1: She's still in London. Yeah, she's in Europe somewhere where
Speaker 1: she's married and has kids and runs like a theater. Cool.
Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, good one, because everyone well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's everyone. Well, David we didn't go. He's just still
Speaker 1: married to Donna. What is he doing still? Is he's
Speaker 1: producing some some beats? What's he doing? Yeah, that's not
Speaker 1: too far off. Yeah, he's producing for like jay Z
Speaker 1: and uh Brianna. Now go oh they all came out
Speaker 1: on top. I love it. Look at that. He still
Speaker 1: didn't do Kelly. Yeah, Kelly definitely moved to New York
Speaker 1: and um, she's it's in some high powered position as
Speaker 1: a running a women's equality empire or something. I don't know,
Speaker 1: something about women's rights or women being strong. I think
Speaker 1: that she would really be a voice for women. I
Speaker 1: like that me too. Al Right, next question, and Jordan's
Speaker 1: is asking. Through ten seasons of the show, we saw
Speaker 1: a lot of cast come and go, including main characters,
Speaker 1: but Jenny and Torrey stayed the whole time. Was there
Speaker 1: ever a time during the show where you wanted to
Speaker 1: call it quits or at least take a break for
Speaker 1: a season or two? On my part, no, because I
Speaker 1: remember people saying you would hear about Remember Luke was
Speaker 1: all up in arms that time. That was who was
Speaker 1: it the quit the guy on n Why Pete Blue? No,
Speaker 1: the redhead the guy? Remember David Cruso. Luke was so
Speaker 1: up in arms. He's like, this guy has a great career,
Speaker 1: he's doing this and then he just quit and he's
Speaker 1: like he doesn't know how lucky he is. Remember that,
Speaker 1: and he reached out to him. He did. He did
Speaker 1: did chastise him for making his own choices. I think so,
Speaker 1: or maybe he was happy you made I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I remember it. The message got across from to
Speaker 1: me that was like when you have a gift handed
Speaker 1: to you, you don't on it. Basically like we had
Speaker 1: a gift and it was a great show and it
Speaker 1: made us want to stay. I mean, there wasn't a time,
Speaker 1: you know, ten years is a long time. I don't
Speaker 1: think there was ever a time where I hate it
Speaker 1: going to work like I loved. There were you know,
Speaker 1: there's often on days with everyone in every field you're in,
Speaker 1: but there was never a day where I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore. Like I really
Speaker 1: loved being with my family every day. Yeah, I can
Speaker 1: second that. Actually I I loved that job and I
Speaker 1: knew I don't think I ever felt like I ever
Speaker 1: took it for granted because I knew that I was
Speaker 1: really lucky to be there, and I knew that I
Speaker 1: was being given an opportunity that a lot of people
Speaker 1: hadn't been given, and I didn't take that for granted.
Speaker 1: And also like we got to grow up there in
Speaker 1: a kind of a bubble, which was really cool and
Speaker 1: in some ways. And then you know, I got to
Speaker 1: have a baby on that show and be pregnant and
Speaker 1: have a child and bring my child to work every day.
Speaker 1: So I was never like chomping to leave. No, was
Speaker 1: there ever a time, like maybe season six or seven
Speaker 1: that like, were the ratings ever bad or were they
Speaker 1: always solid and always good and you guys felt secure
Speaker 1: in that sense? I think they were always good. I
Speaker 1: don't I think, you know, with any show, there is
Speaker 1: a decline as it goes on. It's just the inevitable
Speaker 1: evolution of it. But um, I don't think the ratings
Speaker 1: were ever bad. I know we all talked periodically about
Speaker 1: we wanted to end before quote unquote jumps the Shark.
Speaker 1: Will have a different perception when each show jumps shark.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. It's just saying like, when it's like, but
Speaker 1: what was that was that season ten then? Or do
Speaker 1: you think it could have gone on to maybe up
Speaker 1: to fifteen seasons. I think we wanted it to end
Speaker 1: before it jumped the shark, and we felt like it
Speaker 1: was appropriate. But looking back now, that was a damn
Speaker 1: good job. We should have stayed for fifteen seasons. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, I know, Yeah, I feel like it was
Speaker 1: a decision that I don't know who made the decision exactly,
Speaker 1: but it was a little hasty. Yeah. So you guys
Speaker 1: went into season ten knowing that was last season or
Speaker 1: you were told within that season, right, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I don't remember, Yeah, but I know we were. It
Speaker 1: was like devastating, even though we knew about it and
Speaker 1: we were prepared for it and we were working towards
Speaker 1: it to like have this completion the tenth episode, but
Speaker 1: the season I feel like it was still really hard
Speaker 1: for us to all wrap our heads around. Mhm. Imagine
Speaker 1: And what about like the next day when you just
Speaker 1: didn't have to come to work. It was weird. It
Speaker 1: was fun because it felt like summer break for a moment,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it just wasn't. And
Speaker 1: then it was like a whole chapter of your life
Speaker 1: which is done. That was the most startling part, Like
Speaker 1: when it was all over, Like after you sat in
Speaker 1: that for like a month, you're like whoa. But the
Speaker 1: the lucky part for us is like now I realize
Speaker 1: it more than ever, Like now we can we can
Speaker 1: go back and watch a decade of our lives on
Speaker 1: camera and fill in all the blanks and fill in
Speaker 1: all the spaces and remember so much of it and
Speaker 1: see it all so vividly because of the show, And
Speaker 1: it's like forever, you know, in history. I like that.
Speaker 1: Not many people can say they have that, and we do.
Speaker 1: And luckily with this podcast, we're just in the first season,
Speaker 1: so there's so much we need to do it all
Speaker 1: over again. And uh huh um. The next episode is
Speaker 1: episode eighteen and it's called It's only a Test. There's
Speaker 1: no politics in it, right, I don't know if there
Speaker 1: might be a test. She's not gonna like that either. Alright, guys,
Speaker 1: have a great week. We love you, I love you.
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