WEBVTT - It's Getting Hot in Here (S1, E17 “Stand (Up) and Deliver”) 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:10.400 It's nine with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hello, everybody, 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:13.840 welcome to another episode of nine. O two one O 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:19.280 m G. I'm here with my friend Tory and sistening. 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:21.160 How how are you? You don't look like you feel 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:26.520 so good today? Oh yeah, I'm still having some sinus trouble. 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:29.400 So sorry if I sound nasally. Do I sound sexy though? 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.640 You sound like you don't feel great? Yeah, damn it, sexy, 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:40.760 I'm in sexy. Sexy. Um So, so let's jump right 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:44.560 into this recap because that's what everyone wants. We've we've 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:46.680 gotten a lot of flak. People don't like it when 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:48.400 we talk, So let's talk about the show. That's all 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.720 we're look I can't talk, We can't have a funch, Sorry, 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:53.680 we can't have fun. This isn't our time as well, 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:56.480 We'll do it this way and see if you really 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:58.200 like it this way, because you know what, I thought, 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:00.040 maybe it would be nice to have a little it 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:04.480 chet before the episode, but apparently we'll save it for later. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:09.640 Maybe right, and so, Episode seventeen, stand Up and Deliver It, 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:14.959 aired on March seventh, directed by Brinkerhoff, written by Darren 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:20.400 Starr and Amy Spies, synopsis. Brenda, tired of being treated 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:22.959 like a teen, moves out on her own into a 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:26.840 shabby apartment owned by a hippie stand up comedian. Meanwhile, 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:30.520 Brandon runs for junior class president against the fellow candidate 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.200 and has to deal with Kelly and Andrea vuying to 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:38.200 manage his campaign. What we do? Wow, I love of 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:42.960 two women. Okay, what do you think about this episode? Well, 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.600 go ahead, tour tell him how you fek about. So 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:49.720 here's how I feel about this episode. You guys watching 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:51.760 just as a fan, I'm going to tell you I 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.960 wanted to uh literally rip each and every one of 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:59.559 my eyelashes out and stab my eyeballs with them. Really, 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.640 not a not a fan, not a fan. So you're 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.600 saying you didn't like this episode. I'm saying I did 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:11.160 not like this episode. I'm sorry. I love watching The Gang, 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:14.240 but it just was born it was boring to me. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:18.400 Maybe yeah, a little too much class president stuff for me. 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:22.000 Oh so that's stuff I didn't that. I didn't mind that. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:26.720 It was the coffeehouse that was the boring part for me. Yeah. 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:31.440 It just was really weirdly divided and it felt like 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:35.000 a different show this week. It felt off point right. Yeah, 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.040 well the stuff at school honestly didn't bother me either, 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:42.600 since like the president, Brandon running for president and I 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:46.280 don't know, I did not like Kelly in this episode 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.600 at all. I felt like, who is this character that 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:54.080 I'm playing? Who are the words are saying? She was 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:59.359 just like conniving and manipulative, and yeah, she was the 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:03.239 first lady she was she was she should be the president. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.920 I guess she should have run for president herself. I 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:08.919 liked it though. We got a first taste of what 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.920 you and Brandon would be like as a team. I 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.400 like that as an alady, Like, yeah, this was the 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:19.760 first episode that Brenda, No, Kelly and Brandon worked together 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:24.960 more closely. Brenda was off on her own. I don't 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.760 even know what the heck where did she go? What? What? 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.320 What got into her? She got like a bee in 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.480 her bonnet or something. Isn't that the expert to be 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:38.360 in her? But I don't know. She just didn't want 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.440 to be a part of the group anymore. She didn't 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.640 want to live at home anymore. She didn't want to 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:49.040 do anything but hang out with the coffeehouse people. Oh man, 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:55.240 but Kelly and Donna did did your this is true, Brandon. Yeah, 0:03:55.480 --> 0:04:00.240 well that happened to but I forgot about that, right. 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.640 So they were supposed to go out to the club, 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.200 and but they did. They went with her to the 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:10.200 comedy club the first time, and Kelly was a bitch 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.840 or rooney. She was like, it's not funny and the 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:18.680 coffee is toxic. She was so rude. I hated her. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:28.000 I hated myself. Yeah, Brenda, Brenda, she found a new family. 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.919 Think like stand up comedy, why why that? And on 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:36.160 a couch and no offense, no offense to the writers whatsoever. 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.280 We're just you know, talking here as viewers and fans 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.599 of the show. Um. But I didn't think any of 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.520 the comedy was funny either. Like I didn't have a 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:50.920 chuckle at all. Wasn't that the whole point of going 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.560 to a comedy club is to have a laugh, And 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:58.400 I didn't have any. Yes, maybe it was funny back then. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.120 Maybe that was like the thing like to be cool 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.960 and artsy. And I think coffee house and deliver comedy 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:11.720 that's not really comedy, but like it's more like yeah, yeah, 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.480 the guy that the well First of all, the Sky 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.560 was the first comedian that you kind of get to 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:22.040 see she's laying on the couch, which was kind of 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.720 weird that, you know, I've never seen a comedian lay 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.800 on the couch and do a set. But okay, um, 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.440 but she was great. I felt like, you know, that 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.919 was Carrie Hamilton's played that role. And you guys know 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:40.400 who Carrie Hamilton's was. She was the daughter of Carol 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:47.000 Burnett m hm, who's just like a comedy you know icon. 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.159 And I thought she was great. I thought she did 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.200 a really good job and she just didn't have enough 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.360 to do. Yeah. I felt like she remember watching that 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.839 when we filmed it, me too and being kind of like, 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.120 oh my gosh, she's so lover and she looks a 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.039 lot like her mom, and it just what there was 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:07.800 like a whole vibe about her that was really cool. 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:10.440 Was that a set or was that actually a club? 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.320 You guys want to I feel like, do you feel 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:17.320 like that was the peach Pit after Dark? Before the 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.480 peach Pit after Dark existed? I totally feel you're right, 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:24.400 yes it was. I feel like that was like the 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.760 warehouse sext door to the jail sales where we lived. 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:35.359 And the at first they made it be uh, this weird. 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.200 They had They probably used it for a bunch of 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.880 different sets, but just felt like that same space layout 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:44.359 kind of as the peach after Dark there you go 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:50.360 unt like that recap fans, there's a little easter egg, huh. 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:58.039 And maybe the coffeehouse comedy situation was intended to be 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.680 our new hangout or something. Maybe it was gonna be 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.200 more so because they went to great you know, trouble 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.599 and expense to build that set out. But it was 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:10.760 pretty you know, there was a lot there and then 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:16.280 it didn't work, so they moved on to something else. Well, 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.000 it could have been our central perk. Who knew? It 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:22.800 could have been our peach pit after dark. Good thing 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:28.600 it wasn't, but then it was. But I did feel 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:32.200 bad a little bit for Brenda, like she just felt 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:37.320 sort of ostracized and not really in the groove with everybody, 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.880 and to have her friends flat lever like that for 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.600 her brother was kind of like a minute Brandon was 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:48.960 going to be running for class president. It instantly made 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.880 him hotter in a weird way, especially Kelly to me 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.880 and yeah, but it's just like like in one scene, 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.400 I think Donna's like kissing him in the kitchen and 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:03.200 You're like rubbing up on him. Tory. Yeah, you walk 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:07.000 right up to branded and plant your lips. They're big, 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:10.280 juicy lips right on his cheek, and then like kind 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:16.280 of like in slow mode too. Yeah. Wow. I mean 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:20.680 his little suit jackets looked good in this episode. The 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.160 whole thing going on, he did. He looked good. He 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:25.880 came out hot though. He came out of the gate 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:30.280 hot with with Andrea at school, even discussing running for president. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.520 And he was like, you know this, poor Andre. He's 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:36.760 up and down with her, back and forth, like I'm 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.960 into you, I'm flirting with you know, we're just friends. 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.480 Like every episode, I feel like they have a different 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.880 thing going, and this one he was really flirty with 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.480 her in the very beginning. But then she was not 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.720 happy that Kelly was going to be part of the campaign. 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:56.000 That that burst her bubble just a dad a little 0:08:56.000 --> 0:09:01.680 bit little l Yeah, and you came with your clipper clipboard, 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:07.120 and I was I was prepared. I had my lookboard, 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:11.439 my vision board prepared. I don't know what was written 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.000 on that clipboard when I was carrying around, but it 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.040 must have been really good stuff. He just probably had 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.400 a bunch of like curly cues and hearts and yeah, 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:28.960 rainbows and unicorns probably, but Kelly's. Kelly's whole vision was 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.080 for Brandon to just be hot and look hot and 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.439 then people would vote for him. I mean it kind 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.960 of makes sense. It was the nineties, like not a 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:44.760 bad tactile move. Then Andre is like, Crill, what do 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:49.400 you know about politics? What do you even know? I 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:58.400 was thinking, she don't know nothing. She knows about fashion politics, 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.600 pulling up old people that were running for politics, and 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.200 like she knew how to create the image the man. 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.880 She's the word behind the man. That there's always the 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.640 woman behind the man, right that That's what they say, 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:15.520 at least behind every good man is a great woman. 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:20.600 But I think we could flip that and say behind 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:26.600 every good woman is a another great woman, or maybe 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.040 another great woman, but it could be a great man. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:35.400 You know, did you guys see how do you feel 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:40.360 about Brandon's video campaign? Like his I guess David cut 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:49.400 that together sexy. I just it was just odd how 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:55.240 what we saw the video content was actually clips from 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:59.400 the beginning of the show. So I was just curious 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:04.200 how David Silver get his hands in Aaron Spelling's vault 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:08.000 of video footage how do you have access to that 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.960 stuff to make that David Silver, he can get in 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:19.560 touch with anyone. Happened Debbie Gibson. But it was a 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.680 little weird his video that it was like the opening 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:27.160 credits of the show. Well, I had to work with 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.800 what we had. Brenda seemed like, you know, I don't know. 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:36.160 I don't want to say gullible. I guess that's not 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:41.160 the right word. Maybe the word is um impressionable. She's 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:45.559 very impressionable, and and that's okay. Like she's young, she's 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.440 trying to figure herself out, and she's trying to decide 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.880 what fits for her, and I guess this was just 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.760 another thing she was sort of checking out to see 0:11:54.760 --> 0:12:00.880 if this made her feel complete somehow. I like these 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:05.040 she tries people. Yeah, I mean right, yeah, this is 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:09.080 the time in your life, formative years. Figure it out. 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:11.880 And even that first day at the club, when the 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:15.520 comedian was picking on Kelly, she stepped in and stuck 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.120 up for her right away. I thought that was pretty 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:23.480 badass for being like sixteen. I would never do that. 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.600 Her hair looked really pretty too. I was gonna say 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:30.480 that about your hair. I was actually gonna ask you, 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.840 that's your real hair. If there was extensions in this episode, 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:38.240 it looked so full. No, that was my hair. We 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.920 didn't we didn't wear extensions back then. That wasn't the thing. No, 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.880 it wasn't. Never, nobody ever had had extensions. I don't know, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.120 would you ever do stand up? Oh wait, wait, sorry, 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:51.880 we can't talk about ourselves. We have to just talk 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:58.640 about Okay, come on, you totally can. Let's just address that. Okay. 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:03.800 So a lot of yours are saying how they feel 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.520 about the show, which is what we asked for. We 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.440 asked for you guys to listen and to comment and 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.400 to give us your you know, opinion and your advice. 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.080 And we love that and we're so grateful. And I 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:18.000 read it and and I do take the constructive criticism, 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.200 and we do try to make adjustments to things that work, 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:26.000 you know. But there was a whole argument, I guess, 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.840 I'm not sure where it ended up on what platform, 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.640 But some people are saying how they love when we 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.320 chit chat and banter and like go off topic, and 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:38.520 some people really don't like it. M h m hmm. 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.400 I think it was more specific to when we start 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.480 the podcast. Some were arguing that they would like it 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.480 if we just jumped into the episode right away versus 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.320 having our chit chat at the top of the show. 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.800 I mean, my thing about that is this is our 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:59.120 lives too. Like we're seeing each other for we're on Zoom. 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.120 We're not together, and fortunately we're all friends. So when 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.400 we see each other, we want to say hi and 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.679 like see how everyone's week is. Like it's kind of 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:11.199 that I don't know. And also like our listeners, they 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.000 feel like our friends, Like you know, I feel like 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.760 we can talk about anything with with our listeners, the 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.720 people that love us, and you know, I want to 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:21.480 hang out with us for an hour, like I feel, 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.520 I feel like we're talking to girlfriends. I just want 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:29.200 to give you a little appetizer before the entree, exactly 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:34.000 right right into the entree. It's not done. So today 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:38.000 we did and unnatural, Yeah it did. It felt weird. 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:39.600 I wanted to say hi to you guys, and I couldn't. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.720 I was like, okay, here we go on task. This 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.920 is how I look at it. There are thousands of 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.000 people that listen to this podcast, okay, and it's growing 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:53.560 every single week, and there's just a very very small 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:57.840 handful that decided to write a comment on Instagram of 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.560 those thousands of people that are probably just enjoying it 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.760 as is, So I would say take it with a 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:07.320 grain of salt, but always open. I agree with you. 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.640 I just I'm just messing with you, guys, like it 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:14.560 doesn't really bother me, and I don't because you know what, 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:21.040 everybody has an opinion. Obviously everybody can voice their opinion. 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:24.440 So you know how scared I was to do this 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:28.520 podcast with you guys, because yeah, because I was just 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.120 like I felt all this pressure of like being a 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.520 fan of the show and trying to like ask the 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.400 right questions and then of course, like first two or 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.320 three episodes and people are attacking me like you're not 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:44.760 a real super fan, Like like whoa, Okay, I'm there. 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.120 There are so many different levels of fans out there, 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.040 and you're right, maybe I'm not as much of a 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.280 super fan that you are, but I'm a fan and 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.360 we it's also been many years and I forget things. 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.560 Yeah right, well we do. We have some super loyal, 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:03.280 very impic fans. You can see it in their eyes, 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.120 just a super fan. Yeah, I love them. And they 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:10.920 they're so helpful informative because they know way more than 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.400 we do. Yeah, and they never want to be in 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.560 that category. Don't put me in that category. You guys 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:21.200 are on a whole other level. You are blue Ribbons. 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:25.120 I'm just SUPERSI supersis that likes the show, fan of 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:31.600 the show, super sis. I love that. But well, whatever, 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:35.240 if you like it, listen if you don't, you know, 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:39.320 there's another bit of drama if you guys want to 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.440 address it. Wait, where are we not talking about the 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:45.080 show anymore? Is that? Just? Thank god we can it's 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.560 the campaign, it's the coffee house. I'm I'm over it. 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:51.920 Let's go to spoiler spoiler alert. Brandon doesn't end up 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.280 winning president. That's the right thing. He's a good We 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.520 could come back to the episode after any but I 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:02.600 did want to bring up something that was, um, I 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.840 guess in the news about Vanessa Marceill. I just saw 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:11.280 that article. Okay, I only saw the article because you 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.520 guys sent it to me, because how would I have 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.399 ever seen it. I don't know where was it published, 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.760 what where did it? Was it an interview or was 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.639 it an Instagram live? I'm very confused. It was a 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:29.600 video interview published to Instagram on February a video interview 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:34.000 by who published to Instagram. But she even she posted 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:40.800 it that I don't know. Interesting, Um, so she's saying 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.800 she's so she's opening up about the show and why 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:48.679 she had to leave, saying I was I didn't know 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.000 she had to leave, Like I didn't know she left 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.600 the show. No, she's not on it anymore. The show 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:59.560 is not on it. I'm aware that she stopped being 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.160 on the show. I was not aware that she left 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.080 the show. What are you trying to say? Misspelling? I 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:09.359 just don't remember that character going on. I think it was, 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:14.280 but you know what, maybe I remember wrong. Rarely, I'm 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.439 not even sure what season it was. That it's all 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.679 a blur, all the all the season's blend together. So 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.520 we haven't gotten to those episodes yet. The character we're 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:27.160 talking about is Gina. She played my my cousin, Donna's cousin. Okay, see, 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.280 I don't know because I haven't watched it. So well, 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:34.280 apparently you gave her some really great advice. This is 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:38.399 what's crazy is that she really vividly recalls something I 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.800 said to her, which is interesting because what you she 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.560 claims you say said, what she claims that you said, 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.080 I can't picture you ever saying that that doesn't sound 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.760 like something you would even say. That seems like me now, 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.920 something I would say now because it's a very evolved well, 0:18:55.520 --> 0:19:01.320 I can't imagine young Jenny, you know, off that being 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:06.000 so presumptive or bold to say like, I know what's 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.399 what you should do? Do you want to do? You 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.960 want to say? What it? What she said? You said, 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.560 I gotta find it. I gotta find it while you're 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:16.520 finding it. I'm I'm gonna go on record. I hung 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:18.959 out with Vanessa a lot. She was she was always 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:23.040 great to me, always very nice, very professional. I don't 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:26.200 remember her having a bad time or a hard go 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.200 at it or even presenting problems like. She was very 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.480 well liked. She's the type of girl that has no 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:38.040 problem fitting in anywhere she's she's very confidentality. But this, 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.960 this article or whatever video whatever it was, made, it 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.080 seemed like she really had a bad experience on the 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.040 show and that everyone was super catty, and that she 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:50.760 said that the cattiness side swiped her, which I didn't 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:54.359 really know what that meant, Like who was being catty? 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:56.919 I wasn't clear on That doesn't really matter, but just 0:19:57.000 --> 0:20:00.119 like maybe it was just the energy or the there 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.840 was a lot of female cast members. I don't know. Well, 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.120 at that point there were only three other female cast 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:09.840 members left. It was you, me and Lindsay. Hmm, okay, 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:14.199 well that downtown. Well maybe the boys were Caddie. You 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:18.639 don't know. And was she wait? Was she in her? Okay? 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.159 Was was Vanessa at that time in a relationship with 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:27.800 Brian Green? Or was was that before after her relationship 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:33.120 with Brian happened right after after she was on the show. Yes, 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.080 they met on the show, and remember he liked her, 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:38.679 but she didn't like him back. And then after the 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:42.400 show ended they started going out. Well that's nice. I'm 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:45.120 glad that there was a love match there and they 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:50.359 made She's a Beautiful Baby together. She's saying that Jenny 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:53.520 Garth took her aside on set one day to make 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:57.000 a suggestion. She said, maybe it would help if you 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:05.000 didn't walk around like somebody who isn't liked me. Here's 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:08.160 the thing that I could say that two ways. Here's 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.960 here's one way. Okay, maybe I was gonna act it 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:14.439 out for you. Here's what Maybe it would help if 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:18.640 you didn't walk around like somebody isn't liked. Okay, young 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.840 Jenny maybe said it that way, or maybe young Jenny 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:27.080 was wise beyond her years and said, maybe it would 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:30.240 help if you didn't walk around like somebody isn't liked 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:33.960 you know what. Neither of those sound good, and neither 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.840 of those sound like you. Now, I'm gonna go on 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.119 record that you didn't say that, because I know you 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:44.880 weren't there. I was there apparently, but I don't know 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.800 the whole thing. Here's the thing, no matter how she 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:51.320 phrases it, it has a negative connotation to it. Someone 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.359 who's not like. It sounds like you're saying someone who's 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:57.439 not liked like. It's already negative from start to finish. 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:01.919 Anyway you say that, and I I just don't that 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:06.719 was never First of all, you and Vanessa weren't that close, Like, 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:10.000 we didn't really work together that much. Did my cousin. 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:13.560 I worked a lot with her. I don't remember you 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:17.359 guys having that many interactions. So I don't believe that 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:21.040 you would take it upon yourself to be like, here's 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.199 why you're acting like someone who's not like. So that's 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:24.960 why you're going to be not liked, like, I don't 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:29.880 know whatever, However, it was meant, and however it was taken. 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:34.000 It is good advice. It is sound advice if you 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:40.240 think about it, because we do walk around sometimes thinking 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.119 everything is about us, and we do walk around taking 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:46.840 everything everyone says personally. And that for me as a 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:51.560 grown woman, has been a huge thing to learn and 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:55.840 a huge thing to start practicing, because especially in our 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:59.719 business and and in our what we do and what 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.879 we've done since we were so young, it's always about 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:05.600 are we good enough? Do people like us? Am I 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:09.040 what they want right in this moment? And and there's 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:12.199 always been this energy of a creative I mean not 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:18.560 a creative, but a competitive environment amongst especially women, and 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:25.119 that has shifted now in a beautiful way. Um and 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:28.520 now you know, the messaging is much different and women 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:32.280 are allowed, somehow in a different way to support each 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:37.560 other and be each other's cheerleaders. And I just feel 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:41.320 like that's why I said it sounds like something I 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:45.920 would say now rather than as a young person, because I, 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:48.199 I mean, it's a good message. I don't know. I 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:50.520 just wish we could have an opportunity to go back 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.080 and talk to I mean, let's get in our time. 0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:57.040 I said something now, Vanessa Marcela is saying something. I 0:23:57.040 --> 0:23:58.919 would love the opportunity to go back and be like, 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.600 how did you it, Here's how we saw it, and 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:03.280 then talk it out, because the truth is somewhere in 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:05.800 the middle, like we were all young finding our ways. 0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.800 Who knows what truly transpired or what each of us 0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:13.680 were feeling. From my perception, Vanessa was a kick ass girl, 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:19.439 like she came in, competent, beautiful, good actress, professional, always 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:23.160 showed up. Um. I don't remember her having a bad time, 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.280 but I don't know what was going on inside. Maybe 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:28.480 she didn't divulge that. Yeah, And like I mean, I 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:31.760 think to her point from what I sort of gleamed 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.280 from the article, she was saying that she was in 0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:37.840 a bad place in her personal life, in her development, 0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.840 Like she was in that place where she took everything 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:44.240 too personally and she was too affected by all the 0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:47.480 things around her, not just this situation, but many many things. 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:49.920 Like you know, on any given day, our brains are 0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.840 like and our minds just go in a million different directions. 0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:55.440 And if we let our minds sort of like rule 0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:59.280 the roost and and and lead us down, every path 0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.800 that wants to lead is down. It's exhausting and it's 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:06.240 it's an emotional roller coaster. So I think that she 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:10.560 was kind of talking about how now she's learned that 0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:12.920 not everything needs to be taken personally. I mean, it's 0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:14.800