1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Is this a Great Game or What 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: with the Hall of Famer My Dad, Tim Kirkshon. I 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: am his son, Jeff Kirkshin And yesterday we had a 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: ten out of ten guest Jim Deschase was hilarious Dad, 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: and insightful too. 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: That's what we do on the show, Jeff. We laugh 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: and we learned. We learned and we laughed with Jim 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: desches He. 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: Was a great time. 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: If you missed it on the feed, you just got 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: to go back one episode. We're giving you three episodes 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: a week, including an interview on Wednesdays, so make sure 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: if you missed it, go back and check it out. 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: Dad. 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: Before we jump into baseball, we've had quite the strange 16 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: interaction with one of our members of our family, which 17 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: is what we call our listeners. 18 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: Right. 19 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 3: His name is Joshua. 20 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: Okay, Joshua sent me a picture on Instagram to are 21 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: at great game or what account? 22 00:00:58,800 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: Right? 23 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: That's our official podcast account. If you don't follow us, 24 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: you should do so. And it's a picture Dad of 25 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: a framed poem written the masthead of it is Tim Kirkshon, Dallas, Texas. 26 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: Your address in Dallas. 27 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: The date is September fifteenth, nineteen ninety two, so before 28 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: I was even born. 29 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: And it's called the. 30 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: Possum Response Poem Love Kathy, Tim and Kelly, my oldest 31 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: sister who is would have been one and a half 32 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: at the time. 33 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: And he said he got this Dad. 34 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: At a North Carolina thrift shop, this framed poem signed 35 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: by you, Mom and my sister. He found this at 36 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: a thrift shop and he said, hey, I would love 37 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: for you to shed some additional light on this. And 38 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: my first question was, what is that? 39 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: Where did you get that? 40 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: All right, well, let me try to explain. Jeff, I 41 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: couldn't remember anything about this poem, and neither could Mom. 42 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: So we sent it out to all our friends and family. 43 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: Can anyone shed any light on this? And Alison O'Briant 44 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: to our dear friend from the beach crowd, she and 45 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: her husband Doug bought a second home and they needed 46 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: a name for the second home. So apparently I came 47 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: up with the idea of playing possum, and they ended 48 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: up using part of that and calling their second home 49 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: I believe Possum Kingdom. So Mom wrote a poem about this. 50 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: Just shows you, Jeff, you married Emily Rios. I married 51 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: Emily Dickinson, apparently because Mom wrote a poem about this, 52 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: and I had lost track of the poem. I forgot 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: about it. Mom forgot about it, and if it weren't 54 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: for Alison O'Brien, the mystery would continue. So it's finally solved. 55 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: Well. 56 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: And he said he bought it because he recognized obviously 57 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: your name. He said, I said, when did you get this? 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: He said, about two weeks ago. It was not that 59 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: dot not expensive. 60 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: Nor should it be. I mean, it's not the greatest 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: moment in the world. And it was confusing and we 62 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: couldn't figure it out. But thank goodness, we we figured 63 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: it out. We can move on from here. 64 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: And another strange connection to Joshua Bartlett, who's the one 65 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: who bought it. 66 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: He grew up in Maryland, Dad, and he grew up. 67 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: Watching you cover or reading you covering the Baltimore Orioles, 68 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: and then he found himself in North Carolina, found himself 69 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: at this thrift shop in Winston Salem and ends up 70 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: buying this frame. 71 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: Now, he wouldn't tell me how much it was. I 72 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: finally gave. 73 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: Him an answer, and he says, does this have sentimental 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: value for your family or for the lake owners. So 75 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's trying to get me to 76 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: name a price, But do you want me to you want. 77 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: Me to try to get it from him? Or are 78 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: you like I'm good? 79 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: I'm good, Jeff, With all due respect to our dear 80 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: friend ze O'Bryant, that's not something we need hanging in 81 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 2: my office, okay, or in our house. We have enough 82 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: stuff in our house. I hope I didn't offend anyone 83 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: with that. 84 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: No, no, I just thought it was funny that mom 85 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,679 Speaker 1: was going around texting all these family members and friends. 86 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: Hey, who did we give this to? Also? 87 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: Why is it in the thrift shop? Clearly they didn't 88 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: like the poem very much. 89 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm just kidding. 90 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: Things get shuffled around in the world, and things get 91 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: shipped in boxes and pushed in piles that they're not 92 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: supposed to be. 93 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: So that's how I'm going to justify it, at least 94 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: for now. Dad, Should we jump into the takeaways of 95 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: what's going on in the world. 96 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot going on this week. Your boy 97 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber, who could beat you in a race running 98 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 2: backwards right now if he wanted to hit his three 99 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: hundredth career home run. Jeff, it's a pretty nice milestone 100 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: for one of the really good power hitters in the 101 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: game and one of the great leaders that I have 102 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: ever been around. You know, he passed twenty four different 103 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: players on the home run list this season to get 104 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: to three hundred, and then, of course the next game 105 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: he hit number three oh one. But included on that 106 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 2: list Rusty Stob, Jimmy Winn, Bobby Benia, kent Herbeck, Will Clark. 107 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: None of those guys hit three hundred home runs, and 108 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: those guys are all really good hitters. So the point is, 109 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: let's not sneeze at three hundred homers. It's pretty darned impressive. 110 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: And Kyle Schwarber, from what I could tell, he's got 111 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: a lot more coming too. 112 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: Agreed, Yeah, how many cups does Kyle Schwarber have nailed 113 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: in his garage like Ken Hrback did? Right, Well, we 114 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: have to tell the story when kent Hrbeck retired, he 115 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: took his protective cup. 116 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: And nailed it to the wall in his garage. And 117 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: I called him, like almost thirty years later for a 118 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 2: you know, a story I was doing, and he told 119 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: me that cup is still hanging on the wall of 120 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: his garage. These are only stories that could happen in baseball. 121 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: Ken rebec all time best. The Orioles continue to struggle 122 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: eight straight losses through Tuesday, fifteen and thirty two records. 123 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: And I know this isn't much, Jeff, but last year 124 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: I told you they grounded into the fewest double plays 125 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: in Major League history in one hundred and sixty two 126 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: game season, with seventy one, and they're already over halfway there. Now, 127 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: they're not terrible this year because they're grounded into so 128 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: many double plays, but just shows you just what a 129 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: systematic failure this has been. And Mike Lias, the general manager, 130 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: finally addressed the firing of Brandon Hide. It took him 131 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: three days to do that. It was a bit curious, 132 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: and by the way, Jeff, I got a chuckle out 133 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: of it. I read the headline and says Elias finally 134 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: addresses Orioles woes, and for a split second I thought 135 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: it was Frank from the Elias was asked to do that. 136 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: That is Mike Elias's last name, same spelling, and Orioles 137 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: are in trouble, as we told you last week. 138 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: Well it's funny Dad because Jerry McMullen, a member of 139 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: the Family Right who messaged us on social media. He said, first, 140 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: love the podcast. I listened to it each day it drops. 141 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Jerry, And he said question for 142 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: Tim or for Elias. Now I'm not sure which alias 143 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: he meant here the Orioles fired manager Brandon Hyde, marking 144 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: the third manager fired this season. Have we ever seen 145 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: three managers fired this early into a season? Thanks, and 146 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: I'll listen off air. 147 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: Yes, we already knew this. I should have used it 148 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: a couple of days ago. But in two thousand and two, 149 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: Tony Musser, Buddy Bell and Phil Garner all got fired 150 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: before the month of May. So we have three fired 151 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: before the month of June. But it just shows you again, 152 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: Jeff GMS and they're not fooling around anymore. The teams 153 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: have to win, and if you don't win, you're going 154 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: to lose your job. And in Brandon Hyde's case, he 155 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: did not deserve to be fired. Sometimes you need a 156 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: different voice, obviously, But yeah, it's happened before. But thanks 157 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: for the note and thanks for the question. Also, Jeff, 158 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: we had another official scoring snafu this week. Michael Duka 159 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: was the official scorer. I hope I pronounced that properly. 160 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: In Kansas City, Chris Bubick was pitching for the Royals 161 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: and they scored the ball in a sixth inning. Originally 162 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 2: they scored it an error on Michael Massey, second baseman, 163 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: who slipped while trying to get to it, and soon 164 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: after official score changed it to change it from an 165 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: error to a hit, and that's how Chris Bubick lost 166 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: his no hitter. Well, it was only in the sixth inning. 167 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: But Jeff, look, I'm just here to tell you again. 168 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: First off, I think they got the call right. It 169 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: was the hit because he slipped, he went a long 170 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: way to get a ball and everything else. I don't 171 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: think that's an error and he got it right. But 172 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 2: just one more time on this, Jeff. I've been an 173 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: official scorer before, granted it was in the minor leagues, 174 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: and a lot of official scorers have come under fire 175 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: this year. But I'm here again to defend them. Look, 176 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: do they get some calls wrong. Yes, happens all the time. 177 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: Just like everyone else. People get things wrong. However, you 178 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: don't have any idea how hard that job is until 179 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: you sit behind that microphone, and you're the one that 180 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: has to decide hit or error. It's a really hard job. 181 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: You don't get paid very much to do it. And 182 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: so I'm all for official scorers, especially when they have 183 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: the courage to change something in that spot. And by 184 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: the way, Boobach has had an amazing season. He's got 185 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: a one forty seven er. Jeff, he's been their best 186 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 2: starting pitcher. He was a really good relief pitcher last year. 187 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: They made him a starter this year and he's been 188 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: absolutely great. And next time you watch him, Jeff, which 189 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: may not watch much anytime soon, but he really hides 190 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: the ball really well, and deception is such an important 191 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: part of pitching and he does that exceptionally well. 192 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: So and nobody laughs harder at his last name than 193 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of middle school boys. 194 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: Right, Oh, I'm sure right, We've had a few chuckles. 195 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: You know. We had Scott blew it a couple of years, 196 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. Yes, So there's some funny 197 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: names out there for suure. Nick Allen of the of 198 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: the Braves made an error. Finally, shortstop little guy really 199 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: catches the ball on the run with one hand just 200 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: about as well as anyone in the game today. Such 201 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: a great defensive player, and I only pointed out he 202 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: finally made an error. He plays shortstop every day. I 203 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 2: had a nice chat with him in Pittsburgh the other 204 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: day about about his glove and how he takes care 205 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: of it. You know, you know how much I love 206 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: gloves and everything. And he breaks in a glove a year, 207 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: so he uses one glove per year, as Omar Fuskel 208 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: used to do. And he only uses his glove in 209 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: the game, meaning he's not using it invp. He's not 210 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: using it to take and feel. His gamer is his gamer, 211 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: And one reason he does it that way is he 212 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: doesn't want the ball going in there too many times 213 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: and create an indentation that might make it hard for 214 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: him to get the ball out of the glove on 215 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: the double play. It just shows you the precision that 216 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: are especially our middle infielders need when they're trying to 217 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: play shortstop, Sega Bays anywhere in the big leagues. 218 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: You know, when we started this podcast, or I should 219 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: say before we even started this podcast, we actually were 220 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: doing a segment called It's a Glove Story, and we 221 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: couldn't get the rights to Taylor Swift it's a glove 222 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: story as the intro of it. 223 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: All deaf ears not a Taylor Swift fan. 224 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: That's something. I know exactly who Taylor Swift is. I 225 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 2: know Billy Swift way better than I know Taylor Swift. 226 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: He had a great sinker Mariners others. 227 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: Yes, so, but we did this segment where Dad, you 228 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: would talk about different glove stories surrounding different players, famous 229 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: glove stories. 230 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 3: All of that stuff. I mean, we got to bring 231 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 3: it back every once in a while. 232 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: My buddy Jeff Bradley, former sports writer and a really 233 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: good one, one of my teammates at Sports Illustrated. He 234 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: has a company now where he makes baseball gloves for 235 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: little leaguers. We're going to get him on the show 236 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: sooner Reuven later, and we're gonna don't. We're going to 237 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: devote a lot of time to baseball gloves because I 238 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: love it. The other thing I love for this week, Jeff, 239 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: is that Alex Cora, the manager of the Red Sox, 240 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: missed a game in order to go to his daughter's 241 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: college graduation. And there are people out there being critical 242 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: of Alex Korra missing a major league game in order 243 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: to go to his daughter's graduation. Sorry, Jeff, they're playing 244 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty two games. He's allowed to miss 245 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: a game for such an important family, You know, situation. 246 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: Am I Am I wrong about this? Am I being 247 00:12:58,440 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: too kind? No? 248 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 3: I don't think you're being wrong, you're wrong at all. 249 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: I think, yes, I understand what this game demands, and 250 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: especially when you're a manager in Boston or New York, 251 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: you're going to be under fire constantly. 252 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: You can win four straight and then you make one bad. 253 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: Decision or put in a pitcher who gives up five 254 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: runs and blows the game, and you're the worst manager ever. 255 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: We got to fire them, right. So I definitely think 256 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 3: the work. 257 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: Life balance is so important, and it reminds me of 258 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: stories our guests have told us about Bobby Cox. Remember 259 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: when we had Tom glavinon and he talked about dad, 260 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: how important it was for Bobby Cox to let the 261 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: pitchers go play golf in spring training and do these 262 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: things because he knows, No, it's not that they want 263 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: to do this. It's going to make them better on 264 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: the field because it's going to allow them to relax 265 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: and do other things and work other muscles. 266 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: I think it's the sign of a great manager. 267 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: I think so too. And you know your graduation from 268 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: Syracuse to graduated from the New House School. You spoke 269 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: at graduation. I need to apologize again for not coming 270 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: to graduation, Jeff, But as you know, I missed it 271 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: for some really important, something really important. 272 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: So sorry, right, yeah, the Rays we're playing the Marlins 273 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: in the Battle of the Barrel. 274 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: I wasn't working, Jeff. I shot seventy nine at Falls 275 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: Road that day. That's why I missed your graduation. I 276 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: didn't miss your graduation. All right, Let's move on to 277 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: the Let's move on to the quirkchins. 278 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, actually, Dad, I have a quirk gin I 279 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: kind of wanted to kick off. 280 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: Oh, let's go. 281 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: Not mine, But it's from Christopher Wong. He is a 282 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: member of our family who messaged us at great Game 283 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: or what you know. Quite frankly, the website's a great 284 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: way to get in touch with us, but a lot 285 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: of people message us on social media, which is really 286 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: cool too. 287 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: He said, apologies if you've already. 288 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: Done this, but Dodgers Diamondbacks matchup and I don't have 289 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: a date on this, so I apologize. Could be an 290 00:14:54,280 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: older message, but when Brandon Fought and Landon Knack faced. 291 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: Against each other. 292 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: It's two guys whose names begin with a silent letter. 293 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: All right, we have completely poisoned our listeners when they 294 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: start looking up stuff like this, and I love it now. 295 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: I would have never thought of something like that, but Jeff, 296 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: it just proves my point about how beautiful this game is. 297 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: There are people out there looking for silent letters to 298 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: start a guy's name in a starting pitching matchup. This 299 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: is not happening in other sports. I do more of 300 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: this than probably anyone, and I'm not particularly proud of it, 301 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: but I'm also not apologizing for it. So I love this. 302 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: I love this quirtionin to kick him off. You know, 303 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: it's funny because I've been looking at Brandon Fott's name, 304 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: like you know, because he's a rotation guy and I 305 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: see him up in rotation all the time, trying to 306 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: find my own funny matchup names, and I haven't been 307 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: able to find one. So I'm glad that this one 308 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: was found because I think it's great. 309 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: It's great, It's great. Okay, more quirk stionins O'Neil Cruz 310 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: of the Pirates struck out four times out of the 311 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: leadoff spot. I've been updating this all seasons, you know, Jeff. 312 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: Leadoff guys just aren't built like they used to. O'Neil 313 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: Cruz is six foot seven and he's got amazing ability. 314 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: But that is the fourteenth time this year, Jeff, that 315 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,479 Speaker 2: a leadoff guy has struck out four or more times 316 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: in a game. That is tied for the record before 317 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: the month. Before we get to the month of June. 318 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: It happened in twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, and 319 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: now again in twenty twenty five. So somebody else is 320 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: going to strike out four times out of the leadoff spot, 321 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: and we're going to have another strikeout record in twenty 322 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: twenty five, because that's the game we play today. And 323 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: speaking of the Pirates, and we need to update this note, 324 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: but going into Wednesday's game, they had had gone twenty 325 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: five straight games scoring fewer than four runs. The record 326 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: done four different times last by the Angels in nineteen 327 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: sixty nine is twenty so they were only one away 328 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: from the major league record for consecutive games scoring fewer 329 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: than four runs. That just shows you how anemic that 330 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: Pirates offense has been. And speaking of anemak the Astros. 331 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: We used this last week. Jeff have scored nine runs 332 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: in the first inning this season as a team, nine 333 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: runs all year, we said, just recently, show hey, O 334 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: TODDI has scored more runs in the first inning this 335 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: year than the Astros have as a team. And then 336 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: it occurred to me that the Astros against the Reds 337 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: on May the tenth, gave up ten runs in the 338 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: first inning. So they gave up more runs in one 339 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: first inning this year than they have scored all season. 340 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 2: Does that strike you as odd? 341 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it. 342 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: And as a manager, I feel like you got to 343 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: be thinking to yourself, I gotta shake things up at 344 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: the top of the lineup here, because no one is 345 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: making any moves to start a game, right. 346 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 2: And last thing's Jeff again. Another Pirate note. They have 347 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: a reliever named Tanner Rainey, who's a really good guy. 348 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: Pitched very well for the Nationals for like five years. 349 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 2: I was talking to him the other day when I 350 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: did the Pirates game, and he used to drive a 351 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: scooter from his apartment, his home whatever to the ballpark 352 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: in Washington, and I asked him about a scooter and 353 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: he goes, you know, I live right across the river 354 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: here in Pittsburgh, and I'm getting my scooter delivered. So 355 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: he's going to drive a scooter to the ballpark now 356 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. So I checked with Frank at the Elias. 357 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: He's the first reliever ever to be with two different 358 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: teams drive a scooter to the ballpark in consecutive years 359 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: with two different teams. 360 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: Of course, that was a joke, Jeff dat I hope 361 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: they don't have that stat although Tito Francona. 362 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 2: Tito drove the scooter. Yeah, he's the greatest scooter. And 363 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 2: you know I wrote on the back of the scooter once, right, 364 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 2: I know, dummy, dummer, studumb and dumb. It was the greatest. 365 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: He stole the line as he always does. 366 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: Oh you can have a pair of my gloves. 367 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, pans are sweating. 368 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: Okay this day, mister Sampson, I give me your favorite 369 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: line from Dumb and Dumber. Uh, there's so many good ones. 370 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: There's so many good I just thought she was an 371 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: alcoholic right when he thought they were meeting in the 372 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: morning at the bar versus the evening. 373 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: There's too many good ones. 374 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: I know, you completely redeemed yourself all right, the. 375 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 3: Town is that way. 376 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: That's the best line in the whole movie. Yes, sorry, Jeff, Okay, 377 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: it's the very end. Sorry. 378 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: I caught you off guard with the dumb and Dumber 379 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: dad you know I had in my college apartment. I 380 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: had a picture of dumb and Dummer on the scooter. 381 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 3: Above my college couch. 382 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the most man thing ever to have, 383 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: most college dorm thing to ever have. But I thought 384 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: that was like the greatest photo of all time to 385 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: imagine you and Tito Francona on the scooter like that. 386 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: There's video evidence of it from It's so bad. So 387 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: all right, let's jump into on this date in baseball history, 388 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: what happened. 389 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: Okay, nineteen forty three, Tommy John was born. And someone 390 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: asked me the other day what name comes up more 391 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: often among pitching, Cy Young or Tommy John, And sadly, 392 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: the answer is Tommy John because all the people that 393 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: have had Tommy John surgery. I believe it was fifty 394 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: one years ago that he had Tommy John surgery. Let's understand, 395 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: Tommy John was a really good pitcher, won two hundred 396 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: and eighty eight games and his first shutout of his 397 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 2: career came in his second season, May the third, nineteen 398 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: sixty four. He beat Robin Roberts in that game, Robin 399 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: Roberts who won two hundred and eighty six games in 400 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: his career. And the point is that game lasted an 401 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: hour and thirty four minutes. That was Tommy John's first 402 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: major league shutout. Pretty cool. And I love this one, Jeff, 403 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: and I've used this one a million times. But on 404 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 2: this date in nineteen ninety one, Dennis Eckersley picked off 405 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: Kenny Williams in a game. And then Dennis Hickersley went 406 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: three and a half years without picking anyone off, and 407 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 2: then he picked off Kenny Williams again. Now, if that's 408 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: not the most beautiful ridiculous baseball note, I'm not sure 409 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: what is. 410 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what we're here to do, Dad, is 411 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: beautiful ridiculous notes. And so, if you ever have a 412 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: quirk gin you want to share with us, you can 413 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: follow us at great game or what on Instagram. You 414 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: can do it on Twitter, you can do it on Facebook, 415 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: you can do it on TikTok. Now, Dad, I know 416 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: you still have that Burner account. I haven't deleted yet, 417 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: so don't follow it. 418 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: Deleted it, Mark, your brother in law deleted the burner account. 419 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: It's done, it's over. I got rid of goodness. Yes, okay, goodness? 420 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: Well hey last night? Yes, I know. 421 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 3: Coming up next on is this a great game? 422 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 4: Or what? 423 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: Best of All? 424 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: Tim? 425 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: The best Minnesota Twins player of all time? 426 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: Ozzy to oral do number seventeen and number eighteen the 427 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: best players to wear those numbers. I am a seam 428 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: heead And then we'll wrap things up for you. That's 429 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: all coming up next on is this a great game 430 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: or what? Who would you say, Dad, welcome back to 431 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: Is this a great game? Or what is the greatest 432 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: Twins player of all time? For the best of all? 433 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: Tim? 434 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: Jeff, I think you missed the memo, but I'm wearing 435 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: my Did I ever tell you that I went to 436 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: Walter Johnson High School T shirt? I thought we were 437 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: both gonna wear these for the episode. Did someone not 438 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: right in and say they want one of these? We 439 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 2: used this. I've said this line like a thousand times 440 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: in my life. 441 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, this has become a joke. This has become a 442 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: running joke on the show. 443 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: Did I tell you when to Walter jens And High School? 444 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: We know and Our friend Carl Kostner is the one 445 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: who actually made that shirt for you, dad, and you know, 446 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: he sent them to us kind of at the end 447 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: of our first season of the podcast, and it is 448 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: so fitting that you're wearing it today because can I guess, 449 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 1: are you going to name Walter Johnson is the greatest 450 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: Twin of all time? 451 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: Yes? Now, let's be clear, Jeff, this is the greatest 452 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: player in the history of a franchise. The Minnesota ten 453 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: Twins franchise began with the Washington Senators, who played in 454 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: Washington from nineteen oh one through nineteen sixty and then 455 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: moved to Minneapolis, and then, of course, in nineteen sixty one, Washington, 456 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: DC got an expansion team. So it's ridiculous to say 457 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: that Walter Johnson played for the Minnesota Twins, because he didn't. 458 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 2: But the Minnesota Twins franchise is also the Washington Senators 459 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: from nineteen hundred point one to nineteen sixty and Walter Johnson, 460 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: as you know, Jeff, I'm hopelessly buyased here, but he's 461 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: the greatest pitcher of all time. He won four hundred 462 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: and seventeen games, he had one hundred and ten shutouts. 463 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: Jeff he had thirty eight one to nothing shutouts in 464 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: his career, and just for context, the combined shutouts of 465 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: Pedro Martinez and Kurt Schilling is thirty seven, and those 466 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: are shutouts of any score. So Walter Johnson had more 467 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: one to nothing shutouts than Shilling and Pedro had shutouts 468 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: of any score combined. And those guys were really, really good. 469 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: Walter Johnson also had a two point one seven career er. 470 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: He hit forty one triples, which is the most by 471 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: a pitcher in the modern era nineteen hundred on and 472 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: eight years in a row, Jeff, he had a higher 473 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: batting average than he had an er. Think about that 474 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: for us, all. Yeah, So that's who Walter Johnson is. 475 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: That's where I went to high school. That's I'm exceptionally 476 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: proud of that. This is my WJ hat right here, 477 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 2: but I can't wear it with my headphones on. And 478 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: I refuse to wear my hat backwards like you do, 479 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: because I think you got to be extra cool to 480 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: wear your hat backwards. And needless to say, pop up 481 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 2: is so far from being cool. I am so square. 482 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: I'm divisible by four, Jeff. So we're not. We're not. 483 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna wear a hat backwards because the only 484 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: cool people get to do that. 485 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: Well, a big shout out to our friend of the show, 486 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: Carl Costner, for these awesome, awesome shirts. And you know, Dad, 487 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: one day, if this podcast makes it big, maybe we'll 488 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: get a merch shop, you know what I mean, where 489 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: people who listen, members of the family who listen, they 490 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: can they can go on and buy some merch with 491 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: great sayings like did I. 492 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 3: Ever tell you I went to well this was a 493 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: high school. Yeah, now that would be a great merch. 494 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: What's some other merch we could create from this show? 495 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 3: Is? Okay, you know what we would do. 496 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: We would have to put just the names of the 497 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: four best players to never hit for the cycle, right, 498 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: and just those four names because if you know right, 499 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: you know all right? 500 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 2: And then we'll we'll have to list all the greatest 501 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 2: players from one to fifty five, from Ozzie to Oral. 502 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 2: We'll just put those guys on there. Well, obviously we're 503 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: going to have to do something about the all time 504 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: home run hitters for each letter of the alphabet, because 505 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: poor Pop up his pathetic life. I can name those 506 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: off the top of my head, which is not healthy, 507 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,239 Speaker 2: but I could do stuff like that. So yeah, so 508 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: those are just some of the T shirts that we 509 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 2: can come up with in the merch department. And I've 510 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: never used the word merch in my life until just now. Yeah. 511 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never heard you say that either. 512 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: It's kind of feeling like though our merch is just 513 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: going to be statistics on T shirts. 514 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, maybe we can have some other sayings, but 515 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: we have to be a little bit more clever than 516 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: we've been in the first year and a half of 517 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: the podcast. 518 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: And speaking of being clever, Dad, I did ask our 519 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: listeners to send over any Tim Kirkschen memes that they 520 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: felt like would fit the vibe, and we got one 521 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: meme that was created while you were wearing a suit suit. 522 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: Do I have that correctly doing the interviews during the 523 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: home run derby. 524 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 2: Yes, I was talking to Adrian Peterson, the great running 525 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: back at the time for the Minnesota Vikings, and I 526 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: was wearing a whatever that is called. I look absolutely preposterous, 527 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: but I was told I need to wear this. It 528 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 2: was a celebrity softball game. 529 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, right, Yeah, you had a real glow up. 530 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: You were the sideline reporter. Then you played in it, 531 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: and then you did play by play with me, So 532 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: you've done it all at this point. 533 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: And thank goodness ESPN doesn't have the rights to the 534 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: Celebrity Softball Game anymore, because I think I wore out 535 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 2: my welcome in every way. There. 536 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 3: Hey, you met Jamie Fox. Hey, that was the tops. 537 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 3: Well he knows who you are. 538 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, I had a chat with him and I 539 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: got on the He put me on the phone with 540 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: his daughter and I talked to his daughter about free 541 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 2: throw shooting because your sister Kelly made fifty four out 542 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 2: of fifty six free throws, and I was Jamie asked 543 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: me to give a little pep talk to his daughter, 544 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: who was playing basketball, and I explained that Kelly Kirchen's 545 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: the shortest kid ever to play high school basketball, and 546 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: she made fifty four out of fifty six free throw 547 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: So you can accomplish things if you put your mind 548 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 2: to Yes, I spoke to Jamie Fox's daughter. That was 549 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: very cool. He'll be our. 550 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 3: Guest next week. Just kidding, all right, we're not quite 551 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 3: there for Jamie Fox. 552 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: From Ozzie to Oral Dad, the best players at every 553 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: number were on number seventeen. 554 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: Right now, I really struggle with this, Jeff, because I 555 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: have this thing about you have to play a certain 556 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: number of years to qualify. You know, longevity really matters 557 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: to me. So at seventeen, you know, we've got Dizzy Dean, 558 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: who won eighty two games in a three year stretch, Jeff, 559 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: including thirty in one season nineteen thirty four. We have 560 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: Todd Helton, Hall of Famer, just went in a couple 561 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: of years ago, great player, tremendous defensive first basem. And 562 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: we have Keith Hernandez, the greatest defensive first baseman of 563 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: all time. He wore number seventeen. But I think I'm 564 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: gonna have to break the rules here, Jeff. I think 565 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: sho Hey Otani has already qualified as the greatest seventeen. 566 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: Am I wrong about this? 567 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: I mean he is a unicorn. He is Babe Ruth. 568 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: He is the most remoderable player of the game's ever seen. 569 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: He's won three MVPs. I think, with all due respect 570 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: to Dizzy Dean, Keith Hernandez, and Todd Helton, I think 571 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: you got to go show Hey already. Am I breaking 572 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: my own rule or not? 573 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, these are your rules, so we can 574 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: bend the rules. But I did just get a note 575 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: from Keith Hernandez he said, never want to be a 576 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: guest again on the show. 577 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: Remember we have Keith Hernandez as the greatest number thirty 578 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: seven of all time, So we're not exactly dissing him 579 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: here and putting him behind Hot Helton at Dizzy Dean 580 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: and show Hit. 581 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 3: That's a good point. That's my point. We should get 582 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 3: Todd Helton on the show. 583 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: But anyway, I think that that is a good choice 584 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: for seventeen, and because I think he's really also from 585 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: a cultural standpoint, changed the game for good. 586 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 3: And I know we don't count that right, but you should. 587 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: His impact on the game is important, all right. Number 588 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: eighteen was really difficult also, Jiff, you know, some numbers 589 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: are just a piece of gig eighteen. I've been going 590 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,479 Speaker 2: with Johnny Damon all these years that I you know, 591 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: the numbers he put up his career war is really impressive. 592 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: You know, he got twenty seven hundred hits. We also 593 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: have Mel Harder, We also have Darryl Strawberry. But I'm 594 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: going outside the box a tiny bit here and going 595 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: Moist's salou three zero three lifetime average three hundred and 596 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: thirty two homers twelve hundred and eighty seven RBIs ops 597 00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: of eight eighty five. Moist's Salou was a very very good, 598 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: underrated player. Of course, the son of Felipe Alu and 599 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: the nephew of Dan Patrick's favorite player, Jesus Alou. So 600 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: I'm going Moys's Lou here, and if anyone wants to 601 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: go Johnny Damon, you got no complaints from me. Even 602 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: Strawberry mel Hart are really really good players. But I'm 603 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: going with number eighteen Moist's Alu. 604 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: I think that's a really good choice. If you agree 605 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: or disagree, let us know. And of course we do 606 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: this every single Thursday on the show where we bring 607 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: up more numbers. Dad, remember speaking of family relations on Tuesday, 608 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: I brought up Lynn Manuel Miranda and the fact that 609 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: he he was, you know, created Hamilton the Musical and 610 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: In the Heights and he does music for Disney now, 611 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: is super super talented. I'm learning, Dad from the family 612 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: that's messaged us. 613 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 3: So he's making a. 614 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: Movie about the Marina family Molina Brothers, right right. 615 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: He's a huge baseball fan. 616 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: And get this, Dad, Linn Manuel Miranda confirmed his cousin 617 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: is Jose Miranda of the Minnesota Twins. 618 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: Really that is so cool. Well, maybe we can get 619 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: him on the show. 620 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,239 Speaker 1: I definitely think we should. I see he does a 621 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: lot of podcasts, so, you know, to talk about his 622 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: Molina Brothers movie, to talk about Hamilton, which you and. 623 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: I saw touring. 624 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: Well we saw it in Chicago, right, yes, right, you 625 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: don't sound too confident that we're gonna get li Manuel 626 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: Miranda on the show. I'm confident we can get him 627 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: on the show. 628 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: All right, Well that's great. I can't wait. All right, 629 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: So this week's seamhead is from my friend Bill Chuck, 630 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: who is a great baseball guy. He the stuff that 631 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: he unearthed is just amazing. I stay in touch with him. 632 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: He comes up with some amazing notes. He's got a 633 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: newsletter and he's got Billy Ball. You can find him 634 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: all over the place. You sho should subscribe to what 635 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: he does because if you love baseball, Bill Chuck has 636 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: a lot to offer. 637 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we subscribe. 638 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: I subscribe on my email to him, and he always 639 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: has some really great notes. 640 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 3: And he also Dad. 641 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: Is he the one who wants to do the Team 642 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: Bill against Team Tim and Team Jeff. 643 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: Yes, So when we did Team Tim against Team Jeff 644 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: and Team Tim. One. Of course, as I told you 645 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: in six Games, Bill Chuck said He's going to come 646 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: up with Team Bill and clobber both of our teams, 647 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: which I think is probably true. I'm sure there are 648 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: a lot of Bills out there who played in the 649 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: big leagues who are better than our guys. 650 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 3: Here is Bill Chuck's I am a seam head. 651 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 5: Hi, this is Bill Chuck, and I am indeed a 652 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 5: seam head. I live in Sleepy Hollow, New York, at 653 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 5: the intersection of players and numbers. Well, most folks who 654 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 5: love baseball like I do, love teams or players. Me. 655 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 4: I love the great writers and announcers who keep the 656 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 4: past and present of baseball into the future. I'll be honest, 657 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 4: I don't care how long Bill Mazeroski's Game seven homer went. 658 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 4: I just love knowing that it was Yogi, the Yankee 659 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 4: left fielder up against the Ivy at Forbes Field, watching 660 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 4: that ball go over. And when Hank hit his record 661 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 4: breaking homer, the one I still think is the record 662 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 4: it went over Bill Buckner's leaps. It's the stories of 663 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 4: baseball that thrill me. Bill Chuck, and yes, I am 664 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 4: a seamhead. 665 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: Okay, well, thank you, Bill, and I'll stay in touch 666 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 2: with you because every once in a while Bill will 667 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: just send me a text, an email or something, or 668 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: call me on the phone with some preposterous thing that 669 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: he looked up. And I just love it so much. 670 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 2: I just love that there are people out there, Jeff, 671 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: who think the same way that I do and that 672 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: we do. This is what separates baseball from the other sports. 673 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: People are looking up Brandon fought against Land and Nat 674 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 2: and they're looking up all the stuff that Bill Chuck 675 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 2: looks up. So if you really want to contribute to 676 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 2: the show, we are desperately looking for I am seamhead contributions. 677 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can always email me your audio note get 678 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: as seamheaded and nerdy as you would like. You can 679 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 1: email me Jeff at Great Game or what dot com. 680 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: I will say on the knack that's what my daughter 681 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: McKinley calls a snack knack. 682 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 3: Can I have a knack knack? And every time I 683 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 3: see his name, I think of McKinley. 684 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: Hope. That's great. Well, all right, Jeff. Last thing with 685 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 2: make sure everyone tunes in and listens to yesterday's podcast 686 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: with Jim Dshay's it was so good and I'll leave 687 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 2: you with this, Jeff, You remember what Jim Deshay said, 688 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 2: like how much he got a kick out of when 689 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 2: a position player pitches and everyone on the team laughs, 690 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 2: and he goes, it doesn't work this way in other sports. 691 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: So the other night, the night we talked to him, 692 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 2: the Marlins used a position player, Javier Sonoa. He pitched 693 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: in the game and he gave up five runs in 694 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: the ninth inning. And get this, this is how bizarre 695 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 2: baseball is. He also got caught stealing in the game. 696 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: So he's the first player in the last five years 697 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 2: to give up five runs in a game and get 698 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 2: caught stealing in a game. And he's the second Marlin 699 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 2: ever to do that. Dontrelle Willis, a pitcher, of course, 700 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: did that in two thousand and seven, a real pitcher 701 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: gave up five runs of the game and got caught stealing. 702 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: So Jim Deshay said, this is what I love. You know, 703 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 2: got pitched a position player and then he got one 704 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 2: the night that he told us all about it. I 705 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: just love it. 706 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: The d train. I haven't heard Dontrelle Willis in a while. God, 707 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: I miss that boy. 708 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 2: He could hit and he could run, and he was 709 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: a really good pitcher in his day. 710 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: So make sure to go back and listen to Jim 711 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 1: Desha's because I promise you it's going to be worth 712 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: your time. And Dad, next week on the podcast, we 713 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: have the greatest basketball writer of all time, arguably. 714 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: Right, No, no, no, it's not arguably. Bob Ryan is 715 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 2: the greatest basketball writer ever. His nickname is the Commissioner. 716 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 2: He's like Peter Gammons was the commissioner of baseball because 717 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: he's the greatest baseball writer. Bob Ryan is the commissioner 718 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 2: of basketball because he's the greatest basketball writer ever. And 719 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 2: what other distinction does he have beyond being a huge 720 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 2: baseball fan who has encyclopedic knowledge of baseball. 721 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 3: Well, two things. One, he has two first names. 722 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: But the most important thing is that this week, this Friday, 723 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 1: will be the final episode of Around the Horn on ESPN. 724 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: So if you recognize that name, Bob Bryan, you might 725 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: also recognize it from his years as a member of 726 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 1: Around the Horn. And so we'll have him on next 727 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: week and I'm sure we'll talk memories on that. I 728 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: guarantee he's going to get emotional about the show leaving 729 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: ESPN and no longer being a part of the programming. 730 00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 3: It's sad. 731 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 2: It's really sad, right, Okay, Jeff can't wait for Bob 732 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 2: Ryan and had a great time with you today. Thanks. 733 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like you're getting a phone call. Why 734 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 3: don't you pick that up? 735 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 2: I asked go pick up Emma at school and I'm 736 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 2: going to be late. That was Mom saying, are you 737 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 2: going to be able to get him? So I gotta go. 738 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 3: What happens? All right, he's leaving. 739 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, and it's always thank you for. 740 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 3: Being a part of our family. Bye, Bop Bop. 741 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: He already has his headphones off and he's already walked off, 742 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: So this is a good time for me to tell 743 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: you thank you for listening, and I really appreciate it. 744 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: Everybody. 745 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening, and thanks for being a part of 746 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 3: our family. 747 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: Bye.