1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the playoff drive. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: That's that. Kudos to Derrick Henry for getting the job 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: done against the Jacksonville Jaguars. 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: I think somebody called that you were all over. Yeah, 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: Jags are a bit of a mess too. 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: They are a mess, and that's a franchise that you 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: just expect when things get tight. You know, you could 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: feel it. But they win, makes the Sunday night game 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: not quite as well. It was still relevant, yeah, but 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: they were in, and the Steelers knew. 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: They were in. Miami was already in. Yeah, Houston was 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: happy about it as well. And you know, right, you 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: made it less of a Jacksonville did the whole a 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: nice favor. 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine I was thinking of that as I was 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: watching in game. I'm like, thank god Jacksonville lost earlier 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: in the day because if I were sitting up having 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: to watch this Bill's Dolphins. 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: Game by your future out there, yeah, that. 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: Would not have been fun. But as it was, the 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 1: Steelers take care of business on Saturday, beating the Ravens 23 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: for a second time, sweeping them seven of eight games. 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: Now they've won against the Baltimore Ravens and I don't 25 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: give two craps about who played and who didn't play. 26 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: The Ravens played most of their defense. 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: Yet but about three guys and had a rotation and 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: all that. 29 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: They even rested Hamilton might not have played period. 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was injured, right. 31 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of that floating around. Oh, the 32 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: Ravens rested some key guys. No, they didn't rest them. 33 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: Zay Flowers wasn't gonna play. He was doubtful all week long. 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: He didn't practice all week long. Lamar is a different 35 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: Lamar was the only one who really and then Rokwan 36 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: Smith didn't get that was really about it. Marlon Humphrey 37 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: was hurt. 38 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: Humphrey was heard, Hamilton was hurt. 39 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: They was hurt. Yeah, those guys were hurt, hurt. They 40 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: might not have played regardless, you know, so and. 41 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: Rest Mica No to your point, yeah, yeah, you know. 42 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: To me, you know, would Lamar have made a difference 43 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: in that game? 44 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: Maybe? Probably? 45 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: He's great, but the weather, neither team was going to 46 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: throw the ball right, and the Steelers were the more 47 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: physical team. And I sent this to you today, Matt. 48 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: I saw in the ESPN preview, Yeah, Patrick Queen saying 49 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: we play a brand of football that people don't want 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: to play. Talking about the Ravens, well, the Steelers do Steelers, 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: and the Steelers actually beat them at it. 52 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: I think the Steelers and Ravens play the way they 53 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: do because the Steelers and Ravens exist, Yes, and then 54 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: it trickles down to the rest of the division, you. 55 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: Know, right, and quite frankly, the Steelers might be better 56 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: at playing that brand of football when they play the Ravens. 57 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: You don't beat a team seven of eight times by accident, no. 58 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: No, I mean yes, you can look at it. Would 59 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: they have been better with themar of course they would 60 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: have been in Roquar all those things, But seven and 61 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: eight is a pretty strong trend, as it is five 62 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: and one the division, you know what I mean? Right, 63 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: those are those are numbers that are legit. 64 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: Some good things that happened for this team this year. 65 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: Three of the four teams in the AC North make 66 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs. 67 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, all have a winning record. First time. There's the 68 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: thirties that my division has had all winning record, you 69 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: know teams. 70 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: That Yeah, I mean it's the best division in football. Yeah, 71 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: it's not close, and it would not surprise me. I mean, 72 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: there's no if the Steelers beat baltim or beat the 73 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: other Ravens. Yeah, if the Steelers beat the Bills, I'll 74 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: get it. If the Steelers beat the Bills this week, 75 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: they go back to Baltimore, I guarantee you that's the 76 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: one match up the Baltimore's is home. Man. We don't 77 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: want that. 78 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, maybe this is optimistic, but I was 79 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: actually just on Mark Madden Show and we were kind 80 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: of talking about this too, that the it was more 81 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: the Tomlin McDermott factor. But there's definitely a Tomlin Harbaugh factor. 82 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: You know, where coaches coach against coaches more so than 83 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: you know, teams and franchises necessarily, and the familiarity that 84 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 2: the underdog. Frankly, the Steelers having Buffalo and then hopefully 85 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: in Baltimore works for their advantage. It just evens the 86 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: playing field a little bit. Yeah. 87 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now it was not all Rosie for he was 88 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: this weekend. You lose TJ Watt for this weekend, for sure. 89 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: We'll see about the following weekend. JJ Watt went on 90 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: TV last night on social media, just happened to be 91 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: on the pregame shows and said, it's a grade two 92 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: mcl spring looking at a couple of weeks here. 93 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: To be honest, when it happened, I thought, oh, no, 94 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: he's not gonna be ready for next year. 95 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: That was Oh, I hope he did. You know, did 96 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: he tear the A c L. Now? The way he 97 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: was walking around after that was like, okay, so it's 98 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: probably not an A C L spring, you. 99 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: Know, tear, didn't take them off a card or you know. 100 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: But I also saw Rod Woodson walk off back. 101 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: In the Yeah, just for the pride of it all, 102 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: but it didn't look good, and I initially thought, well, 103 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: his season's over. Hopefully he's around camp or you know. 104 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest, my initial thought was, oh, 105 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: he took a shot straight to the kneecap, you know, with. 106 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: With imagine Adams. 107 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: Adams, Yeah, Adams. You know they've kind of went kneed 108 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: a knee cap and I've had that happened to me before. 109 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: That's where the pain. 110 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 2: Comes from, the actual cap, the bone. 111 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you when somebody, when you bang knee caps 112 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: with somebody, oh yeah, like with hockey guys, the worst, 113 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: the worst pain ever. Yeah, like, oh, it makes you 114 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: want to just makes you want to throw up. It's 115 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: so bad, you know, because I've had the thing. Yeah, 116 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: I've had you know, about a three quarter tear of 117 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: my A c L before, not the whole way, but 118 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: I you know, I had a serious sprain. 119 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: From doing the need of the situation. 120 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: No, but but I've done the need knee thing a 121 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: lot too, And the need of thing hurts a hell 122 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: of a lot worse than the. 123 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 2: A c L. It's like getting the hammered of the ship. 124 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: Pain. I don't even like to think about that. So 125 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: I think that's where the initial you know, you saw 126 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: him pounding the turf and this hurts like crazy. It 127 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: hurts like crazy for about you know, twenty thirty seconds until. 128 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: The might not do permanent damage. Yeah, it's coctural damage. Okay, 129 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: that adds up, so you know, we'll see. 130 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: I will say this, the Steelers are in better shape 131 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: to not have TJ. Watson that in a long time, 132 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: and it might help even more this week. Un you know, 133 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: this is a glass half full kind of uh kind of. 134 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean, he's. 135 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: No chance, but Marcus Golden is more of a power rusher. 136 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: He's not going to get out of his lane. 137 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 2: No for her big to play a little more. 138 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but Golden's going to push the pocket straight up 139 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: the field and keep and keep Josh Allen in the pocket. 140 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure that'll be a big sticking point, is Yeah, 141 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: he can do so many things to carve you up. 142 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 2: We'll talk so much Allen this week. It's not to 143 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: the point where it's like Fields are one of these young, 144 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: unproven passers. But you definitely want him in the pocket. 145 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,119 Speaker 2: You don't want to don't want him around shrugging guys 146 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: off and doing ben stuff, you know, because he does. 147 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And and you know if he starts to do that, 148 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: he starts to put on the Superman cape. That's bad. 149 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: That's bad. That's bad. And he starts feeling it, That's 150 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: that's bad. I think you want him sitting there patting 151 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: the football in the pocket. You can live with that. 152 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: And and so you know you have that going for you. 153 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: You get CAZy and Mike A. Fitzpatrick back this week. 154 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: Casey was in the locker room today. The suspension is over, 155 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, So it's. 156 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: Bunkers to say this, and no offense to Killer Brew. 157 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: But he's a special teamer. Yeah, I mean he's played 158 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: twenty thirty snaps. He's last couple of weeks. That's too many, 159 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: So he's going to see the defense at all. But 160 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: not only you got Minka, who's a stud. 161 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: You get a three safety rotation. Now I think you 162 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: got four. 163 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: I mean k z Rowe, Peterson, Peter. I mean, I 164 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: think they'll play a ton of big nickel with I 165 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: just don't know who does who who loses out on 166 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: snaps between those other three. Levi Wallace, you think Peterson 167 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: goes back to the corner. 168 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: I think I think he goes back to being the 169 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: starting cornerback. And then when you go to you, when 170 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: you go to your your nikel or dime defense, now 171 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: you can now you can do something to stuff right 172 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: and and in that respect, in that regard, if you're Buffalo, 173 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: you don't know what to expect from the Steelers this week. 174 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: You don't know how you know those guys are all 175 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: going to be back, yeah, but you don't know how 176 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: they're going to be employed. 177 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. And we were talking off the air. I haven't 178 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: done a lot of breakdown, I mean other than number 179 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: stuff of the bills. But we know Porters gonna be 180 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: on Digga's diggs a lot. I mean that's fact at 181 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: this point. And I think he can hang Diggs is 182 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: not quite what it used to be. But if Minka 183 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: or Peterson, more likely Minka gets kincayed a lot. If 184 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: those other three beat you, all right, Yes, and Davis 185 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: is fighting something and Cook's a dangerous receiver, but you're 186 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 2: healthier at linebacker two. Speaking of that, I want to 187 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: ask you this, and this is I bet I know 188 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 2: the answer. But the linebacker snaps yesterday true, off the ball, 189 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: linebackers were very squashed together between Robinson, who frankly played 190 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 2: his best kid steeler. I thought Roberts, Walker and Jack 191 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: none of them dominated snaps. Nobody was an every down guy. 192 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: Do you think that's because it was Roberts first came back. 193 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: I think so yeah. 194 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 2: And I bet you think it snapped count goes up 195 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: and he's a snap leader from now on. I assumed 196 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 2: that was the case. 197 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: I think they just wanted the kind of limit he 198 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: even talking to him after the game, somebody asked him, 199 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, what do you have to do this week 200 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: to get ready? Because he had a big pad on 201 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: the on the on the arm and everything. He says, 202 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: I just I spent a lot of time with the trainers, 203 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: but I wasn't going to miss this game. Well, now 204 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: he's another week removed from that. 205 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would assume he leads that room and snaps 206 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: once again, which is good. 207 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know all things considered, spying. 208 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 2: Your knees and back in. You're able to weather that. 209 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: You know, their running game Steelers, Yeah, is nasty. 210 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: It's nasty. I think that's just had a good conversation 211 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: with with Wolf and Rob King and boy Wolf's in 212 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: his glory. I mean because not game, but they're trapping 213 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: like Chuck Noll tottom. I mean stuff that people don't 214 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: do anymore. They're out there trapping. 215 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: Do you see the speaking of the trap and say 216 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: am allow hit? Oh yeah, it came up and just 217 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: decleted him. That's what I'm saying. The Ravens played their 218 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: defensive guys. Oh yeah, that was their defensive front out there. 219 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: That's a Pro Bowl type guy out there, and he 220 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: got depleted. 221 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: But I said something that Wolf really loved him, like 222 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: goodo lines travel. He's like, oh yeah, I mean I 223 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: didn't make that sense that because they like to go 224 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: to dinner, that's they travel together to pasta places and 225 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: stake choice. 226 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: But they do. 227 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: I mean that five some now is playing well and 228 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: what they do will translate in any stadium with a 229 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: big back that is running like somebody attacked his family 230 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: or something. I mean, fifteen carries and second half just 231 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: fifty three carries. I think the last two games. 232 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, just looks better and better each time. You know, 233 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: he gets the ball, and I have to imagine he 234 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: wears on people a little bit. Another thousand yard season 235 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: from Najee Harrison three in a row. He's the only 236 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: back in Steelers history to start his career off with 237 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: three straight thousand yard seasons. He's the only back in 238 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: the NFL to have a thousand yards in each of 239 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: the last three seasons. 240 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: Really wow, Okay, I guess that adds up. Somebody gets 241 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 2: hurt and durabilities are certainly important. 242 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: During the game. I tweeted out when he, you know, 243 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: went over a thousand yards for the season, I tweeted out, 244 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: that's you know, puts nause your hairs over one thousand 245 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: yards and immediately get well, that's only averaging sixty yards 246 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: per game. 247 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, if you gonna show for every game? 248 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, why if that's If that's the case, if it's 249 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: so easy to do, why doesn't everybody do it? 250 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: Who else is in that neighborhood. Yeah, and there's nine 251 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: over the last three years. 252 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: He's only your has done it all three years. 253 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: Wow. 254 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: Availability is huge for that possession. I mean, I can't 255 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: stress it enough that you know, you you know, staying 256 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: healthy at that position is really difficult because of the 257 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: pounding that you take, and you know you can take. 258 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: Him more and mortal at work. Yeah, I mean you 259 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: warrened the struggling hold in the football. They trusted Harris more. 260 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: But am I saying one's better than the other or 261 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: anything of the sword. It's just over the last month 262 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 2: or so, he has been on a I mean he's 263 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: taking it personally. 264 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: He's put the team on his back to a certain 265 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: degree and carried them. 266 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think that comes from his upbringing, his competitiveness. 267 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: The Bama situation. Now, this is somewhat of a side note, 268 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 2: and we'll talk Bills a ton this week. The Bills 269 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: need that kind of back like you play in Buffalo 270 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: and the AFC Championships, in playoffs, you need that kind 271 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: of back. You don't need these little guys. 272 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: That's yeah. You saw Fournette. You get more run last night. 273 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: I think they're getting him ready they're okay, we saved. 274 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: They're taking the shrink wrap off of him for the 275 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: playoffs because they know that. 276 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: Maybe fresh legs and he was once a really talented player. 277 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: But I don't think he's that guy anymore. 278 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 2: He hasn't shown it. 279 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: Sure they looked like that last night. 280 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: In the last year or two, he's shown no signs 281 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: of that. 282 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he'll get you three yards. 283 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, and they run the ball a lot. 284 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: I didn't really how much Buffalo runs the ball. They 285 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 2: run the ball a ton and a lot of it's 286 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: allan yeah. 287 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: You know so so. 288 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 2: But in a bad weather game with a ton of running. 289 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: It's back to that conversation. I've had a lot of coffee, sorry, 290 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: back to that conversation of I can't beat Lebron in 291 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: a three point contest first one to hit one hundred, 292 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: but I might first one to one. You're like, if 293 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: you just shortened the game and everybody runs the ball 294 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: like crazy and bad weather, you got a better shot. 295 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: That's the thing. You don't want to go up to 296 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: Buffalo and turn this into, as you know, the first 297 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: one to thirty wins. 298 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not gonna go four wide and throw it 299 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: all over the place. 300 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: That's playing right, and that's what they want to do. 301 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: That's what they want to do. 302 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: But don't try to play their game. Make them play 303 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: your game. Start to limit the possessions. You could see 304 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: it in the Jacksonville game yesterday, as Tennessee continued to 305 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: run the football. You see Laurence starting to look at 306 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: the clock and go like, okay, we got maybe two 307 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: more possessions left, and you start to press a little. 308 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: Bit, and frankly even a little bit. In that Steelers 309 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: Ravens game, about halfway through the game, I thought the 310 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: Steelers got a little tight, you know, and Clowny's out 311 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: there dancing because he got his sack and he got 312 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: his seven or fifty grand and the Ravens had nothing 313 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: to lose. They're playing with house money, and I thought 314 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: they were really loose. And my halftime notes were Steelers 315 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: are a better team, but this is closer than it should 316 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: be right now, and the Ravens just need a bounce 317 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 2: to well. 318 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: The weather always is, it alwaysies. It equalizes things that 319 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: it can, condenses it and you get a fumble, you 320 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: get a you know. 321 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 2: Something screwed on special team? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and that's 322 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 2: what happens. 323 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so we'll see what the how the 324 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: weather affects this game. It's supposed to be snowy, it's 325 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: supposed to be cold, windy. You know that that certainly 326 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: you would think that the team that runs the ball 327 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: better in a game like. 328 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: That wins at least levels of playing field. Yeah, that much, 329 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: you know. And I also think you coach familiar to. 330 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: You don't want Mason Rudolph getting into a shootout with Josh. 331 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there are very few quarterbacks in the league 332 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: I would take in a shootout with Josh Allen. 333 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: But even just because the weather, I can't imagine the 334 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: Bills saying that's a good idea either. Yeah, I kind 335 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: of think they're going to go four wide and shotgun 336 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: and just slinging all over the field either. I mean 337 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: that that doesn't make sense that it enhances their room 338 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: for error. 339 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I've seen teams over the years do that. 340 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: You can slap you weather. 341 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: I can think of a Steelers team that went to 342 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: New York one year and tried to throw the ball 343 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: forty five times in a snowstorm, and this Martin ran 344 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: all over them. Yeah, but you know, so it does happen, 345 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: you get you again because you feel like you're the 346 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: better team. Well, we should just be able to do 347 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: what we do. And so you go out there and 348 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: you try to do it and you know, oh, we 349 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: have the better team, we can just do this. No, 350 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't work that way. 351 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: And of course you would take eighteen for twenty with 352 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: most of the you know, receptions go into your backs. 353 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: But there's also a big play in there, you know 354 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: what I mean, like and there was no negatives. I mean, 355 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: there was a pick in the first drive that easily 356 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: could have you know, it was a bad throw. Marcus 357 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: Williams jumped in front of it, he dropped it. He 358 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: didn't play a perfect game, but when they don't throw picks, 359 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: they usually win. And if he's completing what ninety percent 360 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: of its rows or whatever, you're going to be in 361 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: real good shade. 362 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: That was steel a record, by the way. I heard, Yeah, 363 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: I heard that. Yeah, eighteen of twenties, eighteen to twenty. 364 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't care who you're. 365 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: Throwing yourself into. Yeah, and you and there was the 366 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: big play. 367 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: They did hit the big play. 368 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: And they set that one up. 369 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they knew it was you Okay, well, they're 370 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna double firemouth here, They're double They're they're 371 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: taking away pickens. They're not gonna let us go to 372 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: ball the pickens. Deontay's gonna have one on one coverage. 373 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah boom. So Tuble notes on that, and they really 374 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: showed it well on the in the broadcast. He did 375 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: a really nice job too, of selling I want to 376 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: go to mooth. I want to go to mooth. And 377 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: then as soon as the safety kind of leaned, boom. 378 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: You know. 379 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: I mean, that's good quarterbacking, it's advanced quarterbacking. And I 380 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: think we have to mention Pickens, like I know, he's 381 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: a young pup and a little volatile himself, and that's 382 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: been well documented, but it sure looked like winning cured everything. 383 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: He's on the sidelines, happy as can be without a catch, 384 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: and if you're gonna roll that kind of coverage, to me, 385 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: I think he's mature enough and smart enough to realize 386 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: that's a compliment, you know, like you're a scary dude. 387 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: And not that he's t J Watt, but he has 388 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: the effect on the offense in a ripple effect because 389 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: people have to game plan for him. 390 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. The next step is then figuring out how to 391 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: beat the double coverage and it doesn't matter. That's where 392 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: that's where Antonio Brown took it to become a star. 393 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, when okay, they're gonna double me, but I'm 394 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: still gonna to get open and catch him one. 395 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 396 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still gonna be that guy because it doesn't matter. 397 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: So I don't know if Diggs is still that guy 398 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: or not. 399 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that he is either. 400 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: I mean, because he was pretty decent last night, but 401 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: his snap counts have been very, very low before that. 402 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: I bet he's fighting something. Like anyone who plays fantasy 403 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: and had Stephan Diggs in the playoffs probably didn't last 404 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: very long, you know, Like, so, is he hit a wall, 405 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: Is he fighting an injury? I don't know, but he 406 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 2: hasn't taken games over. 407 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: No, he's not. And you know, Joey Porter Junior's done. 408 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: He's a tremendous job, tremendous point nine yards allowed per route. 409 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: Cover this year, I thought the league. 410 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: It's fourth in the league, and it doesn't matter whether 411 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: you're a rookie whatever, power that fourth best in the league. Regardless. 412 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 1: He's been really good and that'll be a fun matchup 413 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: to watch. 414 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think you'll get it. Yeah, I think 415 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: you'll get it. And hey, you've earned it. You know, 416 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: this Ravens team didn't really have that type of player, 417 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: so why would you bother in such a way. But yeah, 418 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: Metcalf got the better of you here and there, but 419 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: then you had the last laugh and I think these 420 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: that's the point of his career where you got digs. 421 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, So the Steelers get the win that they needed. 422 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: I had somebody tried to tell me that the Steelers 423 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: backed into the playoffs last night on the social media 424 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: as well, Like if you win your final games, you 425 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: win your final game. You didn't back into the playoffs. 426 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,239 Speaker 1: The Steelers in twenty twenty backed into the playoffs. The 427 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: Eagles backed into the playoffs. They won enough games early 428 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: that they didn't have to win their way in at 429 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: the end of the season. The Steelers won their way 430 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: into this have they lost on Sunday and then somehow 431 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: still gotten in like Denver won and all the other 432 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: things that had to happen. Yeah, then you backed into 433 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: the playoffs. 434 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 2: I mean, actually, both these teams that are going to 435 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: play in Buffalo have been playing playoff games for a while. 436 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: Right now they've won their won the I. 437 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: See what you're saying as opposed to, Oh, the Eagles 438 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: are perfect example. 439 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 440 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: I think they're one and five in their last six games, 441 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 2: but they clinched because of being ten and one. 442 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jacksonville, had they somehow made the playoffs, would have 443 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: backed into the playoffs. 444 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I unless they blueted doors off the Titans, which 445 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: they sure didn't. 446 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: They did not know. 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Yeah, but we've 459 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: seen Arthur Smith fired in Atlanta after three consecutive seven 460 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: to ten seasons. 461 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: I think that had had to be done. I mean 462 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 2: it just seems like I don't know if you saw this, 463 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: but that could announce it like twelve oh two am. 464 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, like get ready to go, right. 465 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure they told him right after the game or 466 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 2: even before. Who's to say. Now everyone plays fantasy's always 467 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 2: mad at him because they drafted these three guys high, 468 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: and I think that's a warranted complaint. You know that 469 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 2: they're just not using those assets nearly enough. But I 470 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: also think going into the season with Heineke and Ritter. 471 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: As you're playing it probably not a good plan. 472 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: Is inadequate. They got better on D but they were 473 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 2: like the best running the offense in the league last year, 474 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: and then this year they went way backwards, so their 475 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: strengths became weaknesses, and I think it change makes sense. 476 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. Was he the play caller as well 477 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: in Atlanta? 478 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: I think so? Okay, I think so, I mean he 479 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: wasn't Tennessee. 480 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that might be what he's better suited 481 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: to do. Did you see how that game ended. 482 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: By the way, say he wasn't real thrilled. 483 00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been either. 484 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: I thought that was a bit much. Yeah, And as. 485 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: It turned out, you know, he was mad at Dennis 486 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: Allen about it, and the players did that on their 487 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: own to get Jamal Williams. 488 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: I did kind of hear something, you know. 489 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: So for the people who didn't see it, it's the 490 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: end of the game. I think the Saints were up 491 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: twenty one pay they're in they're in a victory formation 492 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: at the goal line on the final play of the game, 493 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: and instead of taking the knee, they snapped the football 494 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: and handed to Jamal Williams and he barrels into the 495 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: end zone because they needed to get him a touchdown 496 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: this year. 497 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: Is that for a bonus or something. 498 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: He hadn't scored a touchdown all a million last year. Yeah, 499 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: so they wanted to get him. 500 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: A touchdown and run him out of the eye like 501 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 2: everybody else, you know, right. 502 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was not the play call, that the that 503 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: the coaching staff gave them. They went rogue a. 504 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: Little bit on that, and I didn't realize all that. 505 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith was not happy about it, and you saw 506 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: Dennis Allen trying to explain it to him, and Arthur 507 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: Smith wasn't. I wouldn't either, because what if something. You know, 508 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: if you're Smith either Caro Falcons player, and you're okay, 509 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: they're in victory formation here, it's my last play of 510 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: the season. I'm not firing out on that. And if 511 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: I did fire out on it and they didn't do, 512 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: then the Saints are mad. Yeah. 513 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're diving at the quarterbacks in the eies, 514 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 2: they're taking their center and driving them into the backfield. 515 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: You know, No, that's exact same thing as a gentleman's 516 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: agreement the game's over, right, Yeah, that's that's different than 517 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: we just kept handing it off and you couldn't stop us, right, 518 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: I mean that frankly is Yeah. 519 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course Carolina fired not only head coach Frank 520 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: Reich and everybody else, but now they also fired a 521 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: general manager, Scott fitter Fitterer. 522 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's gonna be changes. They're looking like 523 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 2: this function junction there, and I get the impression that 524 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 2: the owner is the one that wanted Bryce Young, who 525 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: looks totally over well. To be honest with you, I mean, 526 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: do we blame the GM for that. I don't know. 527 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: I mean you couldn't convince the owner's mind. Who knows, 528 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: But I mean one guy has power there and that 529 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: could be a bad situation for a decade. 530 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, the Raiders situation. We already know what's 531 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: going on there that they need a new coach and 532 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: general manager. 533 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 2: The Chargers of State pierces out. 534 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: No, they haven't. 535 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 2: Okay, they've decided. 536 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: They've started requesting to speak to people. Same thing in 537 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. 538 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: From what I understand, Atlanta already asked for both Lions coordinators. Yeah, 539 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: like they're starting to do those type of things already. 540 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: The Giants not only get rid of the special teams 541 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: coordinator Thomas mcgahey and the offensive line coach Bobby Johnson 542 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: Wink Martindale, their defensive coordinator resigned today as well. Of course, 543 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: we know the Steelers are going to be looking for 544 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. 545 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not. I mean, it's gonna be different than 546 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 2: who started his offense cordion in last year. It's all 547 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: we know for fact. 548 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: And then in Washington you got there Ron Rivera out today. 549 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: We knew the Chicago Bears they need a new defensive 550 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: coordinators presently enough. I mean their guy stepped down September twentieth, 551 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: Alan Williams. 552 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 2: And eber Flues took over. 553 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: They got better and better as the season went on. 554 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: I see where ebra Flues made his spones, you know, 555 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: and their defense has been quite good. I don't think 556 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 2: they'll make many changes there. Yeah, So, I mean that's 557 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: where backside. Who knows, but that's where things stand. With 558 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: the coaching. 559 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: We'll see. We'll see about Belichick and some of. 560 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: These other Something could easily happen while we're on the air. Yeah, 561 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: that there could be news. Yeah. Yeah, the Martindale stuff. 562 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: I didn't know till just now either. 563 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: Now, let me as we were talking about t J. 564 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: Watt in the previous segment. He had nineteen sacks to 565 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: finish the season, led the NFL for one. Yeah, for 566 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: the third year, third time in the ass and. 567 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: Even end up with any I didn't notice he got 568 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 2: one or not. They both started with seventeen. 569 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: He he did, he had a half. 570 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: He had a half and a half. 571 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: So what leads to the league in sacks for three 572 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: the last four years. No player had ever led the 573 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: league in sacks three seasons. He I thought he was 574 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: playing ridiculous. 575 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: Had a great game before he got hurt, before he 576 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: got hurt. Yeah, the numbers even beared out. I think 577 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: you put it in your story, you know, the tackles 578 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 2: for loss and all the hits and all those things too. 579 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't see how anybody who has a vote for 580 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year doesn't vote for that guy. 581 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 2: I don't feel as strongly because I don't think he's 582 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: a slam dunk like he was the year he wonted. 583 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: But I don't think anyone is a better case. That's 584 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: what I mean. 585 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: There's nobody you want to get like people well, Miles Garrett, 586 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: he had one sack in the last six weeks in 587 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: the Seas. 588 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: It's a long stretch to go without a sack. 589 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: And if you're not going to vote for him, okay, 590 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: then then you. 591 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 2: Know Parsons conversation. 592 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: But wats numbers are better, are better? 593 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not a guy that's a slam dunk or 594 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: someone that is clearly as a better case. It really isn't. 595 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: And if you put if you put out on that 596 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 1: Dallas defense with the leads that they've played with, oh 597 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: my god. 598 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 2: It would have been better. Yeah, I mean, there's no 599 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: question about that. I'm with you. He would be my vote, 600 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: and I don't try to be homer issh on this. 601 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody ran away with the award. And 602 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: if you put his case out there, it's the strongest. 603 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even think that. To me, it's not 604 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: even close. I mean I just just looking at the numbers, 605 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: looking and yes, we've seen every snap that he's played 606 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: this year. They don't make the playoffs without TJ. Want 607 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: this chance, no chance, there's probably they probably have three 608 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: more losses than what they finished with. 609 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think Dallas does probably without Parsons 610 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: or all. These guys are super impactful. I mean that's 611 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: a hard conversation. It's not a quarterback or receiver where 612 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 2: the numbers are just right out there. I mean, I've 613 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 2: just defends these guys differently. 614 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: I've seen at least three games changed because of TJ 615 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: Wat where they've closed the game up because of something 616 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: that Want did or something Want was involved in. 617 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, it's his case is very very strong. 618 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 619 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: It just just get the impression that the national folks 620 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: aren't doing that because they think this is Garrett's year 621 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: and it's kind of preconceived since before the season. 622 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: Like Kevin Stefancy came out last week, Well, he's the 623 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: best player on the best defense in league. I don't 624 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: even know if they're the best defense in the league. 625 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 2: I don't either, But I don't know that that necessarily 626 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: means that you're deserved. 627 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: No, that's the other like, you know, if you're the. 628 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 2: Best player on the fifteenth best defense in the league 629 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 2: and you're getting Aaron Donald like disruption. 630 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: I mean quite exactly. Max Crosby would be my second. 631 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: He's been phenomenal too. 632 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he would be my second vote, you know. 633 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: And that's a situation like that, like where you're the 634 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: only show in town and that defense kept getting better 635 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: and better and better, a lot of it because of Crosby. 636 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you you know, if it comes 637 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: down to what, what do you consider the best defense? 638 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: Because points wise, Cleveland wasn't even in the top ten 639 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: in terms of points allowed. They allowed twenty one point 640 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: three points per game. 641 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: Wow, I thought they were closer to the top than that. 642 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 2: I think Baltimore's better defense. 643 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: Baltimore is a better defense, but they don't have they 644 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: don't really have a candidate that you would look. 645 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: At Norokwe is not enough. 646 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 647 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: I mean it's had a great year. He's a difference maker, 648 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 2: easy Pro Bowl or All Pro type guy. But it 649 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: doesn't have the Ray Lewis cachet or something like that. 650 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 2: It's hard for a linebacker two. 651 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: So you know, overall, the Steelers ended up finishing one, two, 652 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: three four six in scoring defense this year, which, yeah, 653 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: nineteen point one points per game. 654 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: They're also on the field a lot. Yeah, you would, 655 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 2: you would take that. 656 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: The yardage stuff, I don't care as much about yards 657 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: is important to me. You know, there's plenty of games 658 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: where teams you're gonna be're more than willing to give 659 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: up the yards to get a stock. 660 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 2: In terms of like defensive metrics I care about. Yardage 661 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: might not even be in the top ten. Yeah right, 662 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: I mean it really is. 663 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: The bottom line is what was the score at the 664 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: end of the game. 665 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and takeaways, red zone defense, pressure, sacks, you know, 666 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: yards per carry things. You know, there's a lot more 667 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: things to hone it down than how many yards to 668 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: give up in a game. 669 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just look at that, so I you know, 670 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean I think the Steelers defense was better 671 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: than Cleveland's this year. 672 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: No, I don't think it was either. 673 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: But I think you know that there there are some 674 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: things that they were better than the Browns in. 675 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: But I don't like this argument for any award. He 676 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: was the best player on the best unit. So therefore, 677 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: well that means you probably a lot of good guys 678 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: around him, right, probably unless it's a team game. Yeah, 679 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean the best guy in the best unit 680 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: can't win it. But to me, that's not like, well, 681 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: well he's the best guy on the best d he 682 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: wins it every year. That's not really how the world works. 683 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: I also looked up the stats on Joey Porter Junior 684 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: and Jalen Carter today. No, I don't know it's falling. 685 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: I don't know that Carter is going to win the 686 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year award. 687 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: He played who is though he. 688 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: Played forty seven percent for the season of the Eagle snaps. 689 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's been less and less from what I've understood. Yeah, Porter, 690 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: the defense, I mean you talk about the opposite orders. 691 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: Their defense stinks, Yeah stinks. Yeah. 692 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: Porter ended up playing like seventy three percent of the 693 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: Steelers defensive snaps. 694 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: For the season, but season after starting really slow, now 695 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: he plays every snap. 696 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And even when and he wasn't starting quote unquote 697 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: early year, he still played. Yeah, it's not like he 698 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: was a non factor for the Steelers. 699 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: And it wasn't long before he really started playing thirty snaps, 700 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: forty snaps, like the beginning it was ten to fifteen 701 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: and then it was every snap. 702 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: But I've heard, I've seen some things out there were 703 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: people whoever did that. There was a story on ESPN 704 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: about their picks and well Porter was you know, he 705 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: was a part he did or he didn't break into 706 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: the starting line up until week seven, So I didn't 707 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: consider him, But you considered Jalen. 708 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: Carter, who's not really a starter. Who's not a starter either, 709 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: he's a total rotation law player. Yeah, and they have 710 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: a lot of d linemen they won. Part of the 711 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: reason they drafted him is to keep rotating those guys 712 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: in has it worked out as plan, but none of 713 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: those guys are full time players and the Eagles front line. Yeah, 714 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: so it's a bad year though for defensive it is 715 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: like I don't know, I'm not discrediting Porter, but like 716 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: who's got a better case? Yeah, I mean, I know 717 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: the d tackle with the Rams has been impressive, and 718 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: that was Sando's call, and Witherspoon looked like he was 719 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: right in it for a while. I could understand that. 720 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 2: But I don't see anyone that's been a dominant defensive 721 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: rookie start to finish, that's for sure. 722 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I could see Will Anderson winning it because 723 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: he's got some momentum. He was a high draft pick. Yeahs. 724 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: You know, however, the last two or three games he's 725 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: playing forty percent of snaps. He's fight an injury, but 726 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: he's effective and they're a good story in there in 727 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: the postseason. It wouldn't break my heart if he won it. Yeah, 728 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: I would understand it. 729 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah I would too. Looking ahead, I bet he does. 730 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: The more I think about it, I. 731 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: Think it's I think that's probably who it ends up. 732 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: I haven't looked like Vegas odds or anything, but I 733 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: bet he wins it the morn. You know, they have 734 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: a lot of good momentum. 735 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: So the games for this weekend kicking off Saturday at 736 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: four thirty, You've got the Cleveland Browns at the Houston Texans. 737 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: If I one, that should be should be a good one. 738 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: I kind of like Houston in that game. 739 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: I'm leaving that way as well because but they're underdogs 740 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: at home at home. Yeah, I think I would probably 741 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 2: take the points. I haven't thought matchups nearly enough, and 742 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: we'll talk about it on Friday a lot more in 743 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: all week, but I like Rick Houston's at a lot. 744 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland's defense was just not as good on the road 745 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: this year. 746 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: That's very true. And again I'm a Flacco fan. That's 747 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: a great story someday one of these days. It's either 748 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: gonna be this game or the game after if they win. 749 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: In my opinion, the turnovers and sacks are going. 750 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: To come back as a team. They turned the ball 751 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: over thirty six times or twenty six times if. 752 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: She spent a ton and he has not been helping. 753 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: It, that will kill you. In the playoffs. You might 754 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: get you might be able to beat, you know, Jake 755 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: Browning right right during that right, you're not going to. 756 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: Beat on the road in the playoffs as a wild 757 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: card team, not gonna can't be taking sacks and turn 758 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: the ball over, and they do. 759 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: A lot of that. The other game on Saturday, this 760 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: is eight point fifteen Miami at Kansas City. Kansas City 761 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: is not a juggernaut this year. No, but I like 762 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: them over the Dolphins. 763 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: I do too. I just think they're in a better place. 764 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: I trust the coaching staff. Quarterback Kelsey ain't what he 765 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: used to be, but that Chiefs D's pretty good. 766 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: In Miami's defense is all kinds of bands. 767 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 2: They don't rush pass her anymore. They've been there hanging 768 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: on by a thread. Yeah, they really need waddle back 769 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: and guys like that. 770 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,239 Speaker 1: They do. 771 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 2: I mean they do because that one might be for 772 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: Miami to win that game in Kansas City, they might 773 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: have to put up twenty eight or thirty. I think 774 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 2: they need a wattle. Yeah, some kind of Yeah. 775 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: Even Tyreek was a little nicked up last night towards 776 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: the end of that. Like the final play, the beating 777 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: final play of the game, their off final offensive play 778 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: of the game. 779 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: He wasn't on the field, Wasn't it okay? So I 780 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: says everything. No, ye, most importing guy in the league. 781 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: Of course. We know. The Steelers are at the Bills 782 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: at one o'clock on Sunday, kicking off the Sunday schedule. 783 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: Then at four thirty Green Bay at Dallas. The Mike 784 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: McCarthy Bull. 785 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: There's some fun matchups that way. I mean we've been talking, 786 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: you know, Rams Lions, but some fun Tyreek going back 787 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: to Kansas City. A lot of that kind of stuff 788 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 2: is really exciting. Man. I give the Packers credit that offense. 789 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 2: Jordan Love I when he came here eight weeks ago, 790 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: whatever it was, I thought, Man, I don't think he's 791 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: a long term answer, but boy, he's playing extremely well 792 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: in a really young offense. Maybe Lafloor winning thirteen games, 793 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 2: thirteen games, thirteen games was more than just Aaron Rodgers. 794 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: You know, maybe he knows a thing or two defense 795 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: playing a little better. I'd be a little scared from Dallas, 796 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 2: like Dallas should be favored. 797 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: I get it. I still like Dallas in that game. 798 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: I think they'll win, but I would be I don't 799 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: love the matchup. I mean not doing cartwheels over. I'd 800 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 2: rather play the Eagles or Tampa. 801 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the night game on Sunday night is even more 802 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: fun to me. This might be the game of the 803 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: weekend in terms of the one that I want to watch. 804 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: Rams at Lions. Yeah, I mean Stafford going back to 805 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: Detroit for a playoff game. 806 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: I'm golf totally disrespectful to get out here because we 807 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 2: want Stafford kicking over Cans And yeah. 808 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: You can't ask for better storylines than that. 809 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 2: No, that's phenomenal. So that's that's good stuff. That's too 810 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: easy teams to root for. I was really hard on 811 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: the Lions head coach for playing everybody. I don't understand 812 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: why he did that. And it looks like Laporta is 813 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: not as bad off as he could have been. But 814 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: and then he didn't take game off the field after that, 815 00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: But different story altogether. 816 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then finally in what might be the dog 817 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: game of the weekend, Eagles at Buccaneers at eight o'clock 818 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 1: on Monday. 819 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 2: They're both limping around right now. 820 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: The Eagles are favored in that game, and I. 821 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Baker's far from one und I don't know how 822 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: much you're able to watch it, but he's probably should 823 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 2: not have been out there. 824 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: But he gets another day of rest the ribs. That's 825 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: a rib injury. 826 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 2: Solo for the Steelers, they get an extra day too. Yeah, 827 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 2: it's important. Could the Eagles turn it on maybe, but 828 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 2: they're showing off that defense. 829 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: I heard. I heard. I was listening my drive down 830 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: to Baltimore listening to a serious NFL and there was 831 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: a quote from one of the Eagles defenders because they 832 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: made have switched to Matt Patricia as their defensive coordinator 833 00:35:53,320 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, talking about how they changed terminology things. 834 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: You can't do that in the middle of a season. 835 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: Nick. I don't know the man. I've never been around him, 836 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 2: but boy does he scream too smart for his own good. Yeah, 837 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: I mean he was like that as a head coach 838 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: of the Lions. I guess he's like some Mensa Harvard 839 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 2: something something something that's great. 840 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: You're dealing with guys that you want. 841 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 2: Them to Everyone listening to you is from Mensa and Harvard. 842 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: You want guys being able to think quickly on their feet. 843 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: You don't want them to have to see, Okay, what's 844 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: this call? What do I got to do here? 845 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 2: And that's what the Eagles were all about last year. 846 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 2: They were never a complex defense. They won up front, 847 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 2: swarm to the ball, you know, played with a lot 848 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: of leads, which they haven't been able to do either. 849 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: Devonte Smith didn't play yesterday. A J. Brown could be 850 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: out for the rest of the year. I'ven't seen Hurtz 851 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 2: has a bad finger that is all messed up and 852 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: hasn't played well. Swift missed the game, yesterd Yeah, I 853 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 2: mean they're not a good football team right now. 854 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: They're not. You know, if they were playing any of 855 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: the other teams in the AFC or the NFC playoffs, 856 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: I would say, well, but I don't know that I 857 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: can pick Tampa Bay against him. 858 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 2: I know, I know, especially the way Baker looks at 859 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 2: the moment, but those two teams are limping in. 860 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: They are definitely limping in. 861 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 862 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: With that in mind, Matt, when we come back, all right, 863 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: tonight's the NCAA Championship. 864 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, i'msych for that too. So we're gonna we're gonna. 865 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: Go ahead and look at this playoff field or the 866 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: NFL in general, and pick this the fourteen teams we 867 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: would have liked to have seen in the postseason. 868 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,959 Speaker 2: So maybe someone that didn't make. 869 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe there's somebody in there that we we looked 870 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: at that we look at them like they were Florida. 871 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 2: State, Georgia. 872 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, so let's do that when we return. 873 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening 874 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio, Welcome back. 875 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: I am Dale Lollly. He is the Matt Williamson and 876 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: Matt as I t is there in the before the break. 877 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna look at these playoff fields like we are 878 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: the college selection committee or the NFL Selection Committee for 879 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs. There are no rules to get into the playoffs. 880 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: It's just it's gonna impress us who's playing the best 881 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: right now and that's that's where you go. 882 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 2: So we're taking fourteen teams, we're. 883 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: Taking seven from each conference, and we're split, you know, 884 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: splitting them up here. 885 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 2: We are going to do conferences. Ye're not just taking them. 886 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 2: They can all be from the Big ten or packed whatever, 887 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 2: right right. 888 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: So looking at the AFC, you got Baltimore at thirteen 889 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: and four, Buffalo at eleven and six, Kansas City at 890 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: eleven and six, Houston at ten and seven, those year 891 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 1: division winners. Then you've got Cleveland eleven and six, Miami 892 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: at eleven and six, Pittsburgh at ten and seven. That's 893 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 1: the rest of your playoff field. After that, you've got Cincinnati, 894 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: Jacksonville and Indianapolis at nine and eight, the Raiders, the 895 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: Broncos at eight and nine, the Jets at seven and ten, 896 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: the Titans at six and eleven, the Chargers at four 897 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: and twelve, and the Patriots are five and twelve and 898 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots at four and thirteen. 899 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 2: Patriots end up being the last in the last in 900 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 2: the conference thirteen. That's as possible. 901 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: I don't really argue too much with the teams that 902 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: made it in the AFC, so. 903 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 2: We don't have to rank these, you know, like one 904 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 2: place seven and all that kind of stuff necessarily for 905 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 2: this exercise. We could we could play with that order 906 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 2: if you want. 907 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, to me, I. 908 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 2: Don't think anybody outside was one of the best seven. 909 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: I don't think so either. I think the seven are 910 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: the are the best seven? 911 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 2: Yeah? 912 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: Would those be? Would that be the order in which 913 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: you would rank them going into the postseason. 914 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 2: Before we do? Who would be your eight? I think 915 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 2: mine would be the Colts. 916 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. 917 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I know the Colts beat the Steelers now 918 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 2: is a month ago or whatever, and you can use 919 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 2: that transit won that game. Yeah. I mean, if anyone 920 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 2: was to say a team doesn't belong and one should, 921 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 2: I think the Colts are the strongest argument. But the 922 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 2: way the Steelers finished, I still put them ahead of them, 923 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 2: same with Houston, same with the Browns. 924 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: Might have the Steelers ahead of Miami right now. 925 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 2: Miami is soft, but they're definitely one of the seven. 926 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're definitely they definitely want yeah. Yeah, but they 927 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: still didn't beat anybody. Their strength of victory this season 928 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: was three fifty eight. 929 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 930 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: Three. The Steelers' strength of victory was the second best 931 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: in the league at five seventy one. 932 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 2: Okay. 933 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: That's the three fifty eight is easily easily the worst 934 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: in the AFC. It's in fact, it's almost one hundred 935 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: points less. The only other team that comes close was 936 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: the Chiefs at four to twenty eight. 937 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 2: Okay, So do you want to rank them one to seven? Yeah, 938 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 2: Baltimore's one, yeah, Miami seven. 939 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: I think they are. For me, I think I would. 940 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: I would have Buffalo. 941 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 2: Two agreed out of the Steelers six. Okay, So do 942 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 2: we agree on the top two and bottom two? Yes, Okay, 943 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: that leaves. 944 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: I think three. I would still have Kansas City, Yeah, 945 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: because of the Mahomes, I. 946 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 2: Would too, and Andy Reid and they have their problems, 947 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 2: but they have a defense and Ben they're done. It 948 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 2: means something to me in the player Browns or Texans. 949 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: I kind of like where the Texans are at right 950 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: now better than where I do with the Browns. I know, 951 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: the Flacco story is all cute and everything, but he's 952 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: gonna turn the football over. See. 953 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 2: I think there's two ways of looking at this. Is 954 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 2: because I don't think it happened to line up that 955 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 2: they play this week, and then a couple segments ago, 956 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 2: we kind of both leaned towards we're going to pick 957 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 2: the Texans. That doesn't mean they should be seated higher though, 958 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 2: right well, if the. 959 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: Game we're in Cleveland, I would feel the other way 960 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: about it. 961 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 2: That's what That's kind of my point is if we're 962 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 2: picking teams to go to the playoffs, I don't care 963 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 2: what they're going, what is ahead of them in the NFL, 964 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, well, they don't travel well. 965 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 2: I think i'd have the Browns ahead of Houston, even 966 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 2: though I probably will pick against them in this game. 967 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 2: I think their case for the playoffs to hold the 968 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 2: National Championship up is stronger. I get it, you know 969 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 2: what I mean? 970 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: Okay, let's move on to me is much more interesting. 971 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: So you've got San Francisco at twelve and five. You've 972 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: got Dallas at twelve and five. You've got Detroit at 973 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: twelve and five. That game, that's why that game in 974 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: Dallas two weeks ago. 975 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, bigger than yeah right, I brushed that off more 976 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 2: than I should have. 977 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: You got Tampa at nine and eight. Then you have 978 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: the Eagles at eleven and six, the Rams at ten 979 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: and seven, the Packers at nine and eight. Also at 980 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: nine and eight are Seattle, in New Orleans and Nava 981 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: case at seven and ten, Minnesota, Chicago and Atlanta. Then 982 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: you get the Giants at six and eleven, Washington at 983 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: four and thirteen, Arizona at four to thirteen, in Carolina 984 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: at two and fifteen. 985 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 2: So we can't make a case for the Bears after 986 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 2: I mean like they were playing really well, but then 987 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 2: they got pretty much stamped. I don't think we can 988 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 2: make case for Atlanta, who was else right in that 989 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 2: neighborhood that are I think the Vikings don't have the. 990 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: Vikings fell off, Yeah, but I think Seattle and New 991 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: Orleans and. 992 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 2: Nine teams have a case. 993 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:56,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 994 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 2: Okay, well let's rank them then go San Franz won San. 995 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:02,399 Speaker 1: Fran Is one. 996 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 2: I would go to Detroit too. 997 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: I would have Detroit second. 998 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 2: Okay, I thought that'd be controversial, but I would have 999 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:08,399 Speaker 2: Detroit too. 1000 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: Dallas three, yes, but I would then have the Rams. 1001 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 2: Before For me though, I had to think about that, 1002 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 2: you know, Rams versus Dallas. Is I trust Rams coach more? 1003 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? So the Rams would be four Green Bay five. 1004 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 2: Say it's not Tampa, it's. 1005 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: Not Tampa, and it's not Philadelphia, right right, based on 1006 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: how they're playing right now, I might take Seattle or 1007 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: New Orleans over. 1008 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 2: Fideli too, and it gets to that point. But who's 1009 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 2: five Green Bay? 1010 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: Green Bay? 1011 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like if I was like Tampa did in Philly. 1012 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 2: To me, I know, this is kind of the opposite 1013 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 2: of what I said, or very fortunately be playing each other. Yeah, 1014 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 2: right right, I mean like neither one maybe is in 1015 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 2: the top seven. 1016 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,280 Speaker 1: Like to me, Tampa, I guess is six just because. 1017 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 2: It's Tampa better than New Orleans? 1018 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: Well, they finished. 1019 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 2: I don't care about their records. 1020 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: Who's they beat them when they needed to beat them. 1021 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: Who can convince the committee to get in the tournament? 1022 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 1: I mean they had had the head wins on them 1023 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: and yeah, you know, so I guess Yeah, I mean 1024 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: New Orleans lost the tiebreaker to Tampa based on the 1025 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: head to head stuff. They both went four and two 1026 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:20,760 Speaker 1: in the division. 1027 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 2: I think Seattle's pretty good too. 1028 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: Seattle's unfortunately because of the division they play, and went 1029 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: to and four in their division. Yeah, you know, but 1030 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: they beat teams like the Browns. 1031 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 2: But are they better than the Eagles right the second? 1032 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams are better than the 1033 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: Eagles right to second too, like this, Yeah, that would 1034 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: be the Eagles would be a team that wouldn't make it. 1035 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: You don't. You don't win one time in your last 1036 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: five games or six games. 1037 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 2: One of us they were ten and one. 1038 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: There were ten and one, yeah, and completely falling apart. 1039 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: They don't belong. 1040 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 2: They don't. 1041 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: You want to talk about not deserving to being a player, 1042 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: and I always tell people, if you make it, you 1043 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: deserve to be. 1044 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 2: And it's all math. It's not but it doesn't work 1045 00:44:59,080 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 2: the way we're doing this. 1046 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: Actual, that's not a team that should be around. They 1047 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: got very fortunate in their matchup. 1048 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 2: Mm hm. So if if the season went seven. 1049 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: If the season went one more week, or even two 1050 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,240 Speaker 1: more weeks, two more weeks, they might not make. 1051 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:20,280 Speaker 2: The playoffs, right, and they clinched a year ago. So okay, 1052 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 2: I think we both agree they're not in the top 1053 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:28,280 Speaker 2: seven fair enough, But is Seattle better than Tampa? 1054 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: That leaves us Tampa's Okay. So then now we break 1055 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 1: it down to strength of victory. Tampa's strength of victory 1056 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: is three seventy nine. Okay, Seattle's strength of victory is 1057 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: three ninety two, so that doesn't really close. Give that 1058 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: to me. New Orleans strength of victory is three forty. 1059 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: They're all kind of. 1060 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 2: Those South teams, all played easy. 1061 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: Schedules, they're all kind of yuck. 1062 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 2: So we have to pick two of those three. 1063 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: Yes, unless you want to keep Philadelphia in the playoffs. Now, 1064 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't think Philadelphia's strength of trees four seventy six. 1065 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 2: This, I don't mean logic behind this. But if I 1066 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 2: were the Steelers or the Bears, Giants, whoever, I think 1067 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 2: I want to play the Bucks out of those three. 1068 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: Teams, Okay, I can understand why. 1069 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean constructed Seattle, scary Seattle. 1070 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: Seattle will be my seventh team over Philly has currently constructed, assuming. 1071 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,399 Speaker 2: You'd leave the Saints out, Yeah, I think we're both 1072 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 2: leaving Philly out. 1073 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Philly's out. I would I would keep 1074 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay in, but I would add Seattle instead. 1075 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 2: I think I'd leave Tampa out, And there's a lot 1076 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 2: of recency bias behind that. I think the Saints are 1077 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 2: better than them. 1078 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: They just lost to the Buccaneers two weeks. 1079 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 2: Right now, I know, but they also just wiped the 1080 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 2: floor with the Falcon I think Seattle would be my six, 1081 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 2: and either the Saints or Bucks would be seven, and 1082 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 2: the Eagles are nine. Yeah, give me the Bucks. They 1083 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 2: won the division. 1084 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. Okay, so different than what actually 1085 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: came to fruition, but that's why you play the whole season. 1086 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 2: Who would be your fourteen if you combined them all? 1087 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 2: The NFC in Carolina, No, No, I'm all of the 1088 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 2: Big seven and seven. If if a conference doesn't matter, 1089 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 2: does matter. 1090 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: I think you go. I think you go Baltimore, San Francisco. 1091 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 2: I think the NFC would have the bottom two or 1092 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 2: three teams. 1093 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1094 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 2: If the Steelers probably of Green Bay over the Steelers. 1095 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: See I wouldn't they played that game, I know, and 1096 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: the Steelers beat them. 1097 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 2: But really impressively convincingly beat them. I think I'd have 1098 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 2: the Miami over anyone in the NFC South, Yeah, over Seattle, 1099 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 2: Miami versus Greensay. 1100 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: I look at the NFC and I think, Okay, the 1101 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: only the teams in the NFC that I know are 1102 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: better than the Steelers, San Francisco, Detroit, in Dallas, the 1103 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,720 Speaker 1: rest of it. They played the Rams in Los Angeles 1104 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: and beat them. They played Green Bay here, but they 1105 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 1: beat them. 1106 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 2: I would Power rank the Rams today over the Steelers 1107 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 2: Packers is a conversation. I don't know that I would 1108 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 2: Packers Steelers. 1109 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: The Steelers offense is playing better than that the Steelers 1110 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: offense was when they played them. 1111 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Packers offense is playing way better. 1112 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: Would it play better? Way better against this defense? 1113 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,399 Speaker 2: Though? And then you have to talk about head to head, 1114 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 2: you know, just. 1115 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: Take into consideration that the Steelers won't have what I 1116 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: get that. That's also part of the conversation, is it is? 1117 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 2: I think the Steelers, Dolphins, and Packers are about the 1118 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 2: same level, and I would have the Rams slightly above them. 1119 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 2: Everybody else that made the cut below them. Okay, one 1120 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 2: time I was impressed with the Packers. 1121 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: Tomorrow we'll do uh, we'll do our power rankings day. 1122 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: We'll see where all this, how they sorted out Eric 1123 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 1: at home one NFL dot Com. I thought that was 1124 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 1: a little interesting. 1125 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Twitch looking at it. 1126 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, get your ready for tonight's game with Michigan playing 1127 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 1: Washington the National Championship. 1128 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 2: A lot of prospects to watch, folks. 1129 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely, we're gonna get to another break that's going to 1130 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: do it for our number one of the drive. We'll 1131 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: be back with our number two right after this.