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Now, 27 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: if that still holds when the recount is complete, Joe 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: Biden will be the first Democratic presidential candidate to win 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: Georgia since If that weren't enough, control of the Senate 30 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: now hinges on two critical Georgia runoff elections, which will 31 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: happen in January. At the center of this national political 32 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: storm is Georgia's Republican Secretary of State, Brad Rafinsburger. Good evening, Hi, Brad, 33 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: and I had a chance to speak Monday evening, So 34 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: listen and enjoy. What has it been like for you 35 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: to be at the epicenter of national media attention? I mean, 36 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: all eyes are on Georgia. Is that stressing you out? Brad? Oh? 37 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: But when you look at two years ago, when Stacy 38 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: Abrahams ran against Governor Kemp. He prevailed with the fifty 39 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: three thousand margin, and so Georgia is more competitive. I thought, 40 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: as a Republican it was going to go the other way, 41 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: and right now it doesn't look like it's going to. 42 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: I think some of that is us. President Biden had 43 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: a very robust absolute ballot campaign and President Trump said, 44 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: don't vote absentee, come out in vote the day of 45 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: the election, and only less than a million people showed 46 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: up on election day. If at one point three one 47 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: point four million people would have shown up, he would 48 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: have just one big time in Georgia. But why do 49 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: you think he was so opposed to, in the midst 50 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: of a national global pandemic, in fact, to encourage his 51 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: supporters to vote by mail. In retrospect, wasn't that a 52 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: massive mistake and miscalculation. Well, I think President Trump was 53 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: looking at some of the other states where they just 54 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: send out a live ballot and and how do you 55 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: really identify those people? And that's what some people did. 56 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: But in Georgia, we followed the law, and what that 57 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: was is that you had your request an absodute ballot. 58 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: So we have done that. We followed the state law. 59 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: In fact, over this year because of some of the 60 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: issues you could have with absolutely, we even strengthened the 61 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: signature match. For the first time, we have Photo I D. 62 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: If you used our online portal, then you required photo 63 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: ID and you seamlessly to your driver's license, so we 64 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: knew it was you that was applying for the absodute ballot. 65 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: Were there are other things for people who may not 66 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: be familiar with how things are done in Georgia. Were 67 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: there are other things that you all put in place 68 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: to assure the integrity of mail in ballots. Well, that 69 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: was probably the number one thing, is making sure we 70 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: had signature match with the paper application signature match you know, 71 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: when the ballot came back, and then with online portal. 72 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: But then we also made it more user friendly. From 73 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: that standpoint, if you had an absolute ballot, we had 74 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: an app called Ballot Tracks, so you can see where 75 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: your ballot was in the process. And then we understood 76 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: that way times were one of the biggest issues, and 77 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: we wanted to keep all options open sixteen days of 78 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: early voting, day of election, and so we helped work 79 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: on making sure you can securely and safely move through 80 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: those lines during election day, and we did that. We 81 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: had an average weight time on election day have two minutes. 82 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: You know, during the lead up to the election, a 83 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: lot of people were concerned of people. Democrats were concerned 84 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: that as a Republican Secretary of State, you know, they 85 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: were on the lookout for any involvement in voter suppression. 86 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: Now you are kind of the target of your own party. Well, 87 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: we're the referee, and what our job is to make 88 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: sure we walk that line of integrity because I like 89 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: integrity still matters um and it's up to the candidates 90 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: to run their races. We have the laws in place, 91 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: we enforced the laws. We want to make sure that 92 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: we have secure voting. As soon as I became elected. 93 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: As soon as office, we worked on passing a bill 94 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: that outlawed ballot harvesting. That ballot harvesting to us, I 95 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: don't think it's secure, it's wrong, and so we outlawed it. 96 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: So we want to make sure that voters understood that. 97 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: We also made sure as soon as I became Secretary 98 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: of State that we can join ERIC, which is the 99 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: Electronic Registration Information Center. It's it's multi state, about thirties 100 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: plus states. Now I'm part of it. So if you 101 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: live in Georgia moved to Texas, Texas, will let us 102 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: know that you registered in Texas. What that does is 103 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: allows us to begin the process of taking off the 104 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: vota roles. We want to make sure our voter roles 105 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: are clean. Let's talk about the hand recount and the 106 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: audit that you have ordered. Can you explain the recount 107 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: process for us? And if you expect this process to 108 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: change the results in any significant way, Well, what we're 109 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: doing is a risk lamenting audit, and state law requires 110 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: us to do a minimum confidence level. That means we'd 111 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: have to pull up one point five million ballots. If 112 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: we did confidence level, that'd be two and a half 113 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: many ballots. You start pulling that many ballots out of 114 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: five million, randomly, be minds with us count all five million. 115 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: So we decided to do that. But instead of scanning 116 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: those through the machines again, we said, let's go ahead 117 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: and can't count these by hand, because some of these 118 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: people are questioning are these machines accurate? Did that QR 119 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: codes somehow change something? So everyone is looking at these ballots. 120 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: Who did you want for president? Do you want Trump? 121 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: Biden or Joe Jorgenson either one and it goes in 122 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: three piles and then you count them by hand. And 123 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: that's what we've done to secure and make sure that 124 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: you know exactly what it is. Now, do we have 125 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: some changes well today and Floyd County, what we found 126 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: in the part of the audit process, there's about ballots 127 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: that were counted, but they were not uploaded properly at 128 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: the county level. It was a poll worker mistake, not 129 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: a machine mistake. But regardless that appears at a President 130 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: Trump picked up about eight hundred votes, So now we'll 131 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: add that to the total. But in some of these 132 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: other counties, uh, it's not changed one vote at all, 133 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: and so it's been very very close other than this 134 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: kind of kind of poll worker air. But that's why 135 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: you're do an audit. That's why people audit books that 136 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: they're looking for any mistakes, because we want to give 137 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: voters a percent confidence. We know half the people are 138 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: not going to be placed with this result and then 139 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: the other path are going to be a static. We 140 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: get that, and I think I may be the one 141 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: that's not happy with the respults, but we're gonna do 142 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: that they have percent confidence and when will that audit 143 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: be complete. We've tasked them to be done by because 144 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: we have to certify these elections this election on. Then 145 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: if it is within a half percent, the candidate that 146 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: has gotten the lower total can say I would like 147 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: a hundred percent recount that we'll grab up all those 148 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: ballots and we'll run them through the scanners and we'll 149 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: do the same thing again because that is their right 150 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: and will follow state law. And as far as you 151 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: can tell to this point, will it be within that 152 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: percentage point? Well, it is right now within that half 153 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: percentage point, So the losing candidate could ask for another total. 154 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: We have five million ballots, it's a fifty vote delta, 155 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: and so we'll be well within that margin. Okay. And 156 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: do you expect the Trump campaign to ask for a 157 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: full recount? Oh, that is their decision, but state law 158 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: allows for it and the state, uh state will pay 159 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: and fund that for all the counties to do that. 160 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: Trump supporter and an attorney that I happen to know 161 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: name when would has alleged in a federal lawsuit which 162 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: was wild Friday, that absentee ballots signature review procedures violate 163 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: the US Constitution. The lawsuit takes issue with the settlement 164 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: this spring between you and the Democratic Party of Georgia 165 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: which required election workers to consult with two of their 166 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: peers before rejecting absentee ballots because of possible mismatched signatures, 167 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: and the suit alleges that change needed approval from the 168 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: Georgia General Assembly. While we're really getting into the weeds here, 169 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: but can you give us your perspective on this lawsuit. 170 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: It's provolist, it's not going to go anywhere because in 171 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: the end of the day, what were we kept signature match. 172 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: And it really is if you did not think it matched, 173 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: then you could have another set of eyes look at it. 174 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: But if the other ice set of I say it 175 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: doesn't match, it doesn't match, and then you can have 176 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: the opportunity to come down and cure your ballot. And 177 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: and then you can say, no, my signatures change because 178 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: I broke my arm, whatever reason that is. But you 179 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: have signature cure and so, uh, it's really not changing anything. 180 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: And we kept signature match. You have to have signature 181 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,359 Speaker 1: match when you do your application of paper application application, 182 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: and you also do signature match when you send the 183 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: ballots in. So it's really there'll be three ballots on 184 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: our three signatures on file, the original you've registered, then 185 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: the application, and then with the ballot, and so you 186 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: look at all three, line them up and see is 187 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: this the same person? So you think Lynnwood is barking 188 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: up the wrong tree. I don't know what tree is 189 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: barking up, but I'm sure he's just daring a good 190 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: lawyer's feed for, you know, following a frivolous lawsuit. But 191 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: it's not gonna go anywhere. That dog won't hunt. Yes, 192 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: Dan rather often said. Senators left Ler and Perdue, who 193 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: are both candidates in the Senate runoff, released a statement 194 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: accusing you of having failed the people of Georgia and 195 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: asking you to step down and meet at least. What 196 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: was your response to that, Well, I told him I'm 197 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: not going anywhere. And all I would really tell them 198 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: is you boast there in competitive races, and you best 199 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: get at it and quit worrying about, you know, this election, 200 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: because you've got a big runoff election, and as a Republican, 201 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, I want to see our Republicans prevailed. At 202 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I'm gonna walk that line 203 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: of integrity and they're gonna win. If they win honestly, 204 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: and everyone's gonna know that they want with an honest vote, 205 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: and that's what I'm called to do as Secretary of State. 206 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a short break. We'll be right back. Hi. 207 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: My name is Lindsay Louis. Cal Hope is here for 208 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: you with free mental health resources. Go to cal hope 209 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: dot org to chat with a live person all their 210 00:11:53,960 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: warmline at one eight three three Hope. What's up? 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To me like and 243 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: I you know, whether it's Democrat or Republican, it's automatically 244 00:13:55,160 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: going to feel um, not necessarily fair and in partial 245 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: if we've got a Republican running things or if we 246 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: have a Democrat want running things. What what I mean 247 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: it sounds nutty to me. Well, but we have a 248 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty nine counties, and I know that when 249 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: we get some of our rural counties that voted eighty 250 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: five percent for President Trump, that those elected election directors 251 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: may actually then also may have voted for President Trump. 252 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: But then you get into some of the urban areas 253 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: and it goes the other way. They may have voted 254 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: for Vice President Biden. But at the end of the day, 255 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: they set aside their partisan you know, leanings, and they 256 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: run the election. It's about process and that's really what 257 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: it gets down to, is you run the process, You 258 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: do the drill, and the results will be the results 259 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: based on the candidate get his people out. And so 260 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: as long as we have personal integrity, it works. Yeah, 261 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: I guess, I mean, you know, I believe you want brings. 262 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: Everyone has partisanship and biases, and so at the end 263 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: of the day, we set that aside. And we follow 264 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: what is the law say, what do the rules say? 265 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: And that's what we do. What did Lindsey Graham say 266 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: to you, Secretary of st Rappensburger, when he called you 267 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: on Friday? I thought when he called, originally it was 268 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: really to talk about two run offs we have for 269 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: the U. S. Senate seats, since he's influential in that area. 270 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: But he asked if the Ashleuty ballots can be matched 271 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: back to the envelope. So I explained how it works 272 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: in Georgia that the signature is matched when you make 273 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: your ballot application, and then the signature has matched again 274 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: when the when the ballot comes back, so there's two 275 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: signature checks there. But once that happens, then the ballot 276 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: is separated from the envelope and then you can't match 277 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: them back. But then I felt that he implied that 278 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: for us to audit the envelopes and throw out ballots 279 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: of counties who had the highest frequency era of signatures, 280 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: and I, you know, mentioned that that's not something we 281 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: can do, and that's really where we left it. I 282 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: told him I talked to my general counsel and would 283 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: circle back, and there was no need to circle back. 284 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: Because then President Trump put out his tweet about something 285 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: along those lines, and it just appeared that they were 286 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: already coordinating their campaign. And subsequent to that, I understand 287 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: there's a lawsuit in Michigan really along those lines, and 288 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: this attorney, Lynnwood has found a lawsuit. Uh, you know 289 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: a about the Absolitute about process which you were going 290 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: to defend. Did you feel the Republican Party, Lindsey Graham 291 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: in particular, was exerting undue pressure on you and actually 292 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: trying to find a way to toss legally cast ballots 293 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: out of the system. I don't know. It wasn't undo 294 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: because I said no. So at the end of the day, 295 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: we are following our process. But the fact that he 296 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: called you and asked you this, Brad, did you feel 297 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: it was inappropriate? Yeah? I did, and that's why I 298 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: didn't call him back. I talked to counsel uh, and 299 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: we just kind of moved off. Fortunately, had a couple 300 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: of my staff members on the call because I noticed. 301 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: I understand everything that we do will be put under 302 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: a Microsoft scope, And at the end of the day, 303 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: no matter how this election falls, I want voters to 304 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: have concent in the accuracy of the election, and as 305 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: a Republican, I know I'm going to probably be disappointed 306 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: that something is not going to happen during this audit, 307 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: because as the numbers come in, it's just really substantiating 308 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: that the vote was accurately counted on the election night. 309 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: But that's how it appears right now. We had in 310 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: Floyd County they never took out the memory stick in 311 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: one of the machines used for early voting, and that 312 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: added about votes, which gave President Trump eight hundred more. 313 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: When you're when you're short fourteen thousand votes, it doesn't 314 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: get you there. Maybe there's another county that also did 315 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: something dumb and uh, and we'll we take them out 316 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: to the woodshed later. But right now we're just working 317 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: on our process of buttoning it up. But I don't 318 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: think that will get them where they need to be. 319 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: Senator Graham had a different recollection of your conversation. He 320 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: said that if you found it threatening, you quote have 321 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: a problem. What's your response? Uh, Well, Uh, I just 322 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: haven't had a different impression. And I guess I just 323 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: really want to make sure that I mind all my ps, 324 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: all my cues so that we can run this election. 325 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: You know right down, you know the center line, you know, 326 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: with integrity, and so that both sides know this is 327 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: how the results came out. I understand I've been saying 328 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: this for six months, Katie, that half the people will 329 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: be happy after people we said yes, the other half 330 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: was very very sad and they didn't admit that. How 331 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: did President Trump win? Well, now was going to be 332 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: my side saying how did that happen? And I get that, 333 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: But in Georgia, people won't be out of question results. 334 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: There's spot and nine other states and all the secretaries 335 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: have stayed over there going to run their elections. My 336 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: job is Georgia and that's what I'm focusing on. So 337 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: my George and have confidence. Senator Graham also insists that 338 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: he called you on his own accord and it wasn't 339 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: prompted by the Trump campaign. Do you believe him? Well, 340 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: I'll take him at his word. Um, I know he's 341 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: a Republican, and so am I and he maybe have 342 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: been just concerned, and so who am I? I don't 343 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: know what was in his mind and all that. That's 344 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: that's just me guessing. I just didn't like to deal 345 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: with facts. I'm an engineer and if I deal with 346 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: facts in a secretary of State, that's gonna be a 347 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: whole lot better. At the end of the day, when 348 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: we talked to our voters and talked to both sides 349 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: of the aisle, Democrats have called for an ethics investigation 350 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: looking into this. Do you think they're justified? Well, that's 351 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: Washington politics and I'm gonna tend to what we do 352 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: here in Georgia. I love Georgia, and uh, this is 353 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: where my home is and Secretary of State is where 354 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: my focus is. We'll be back with Brad Raethlisberger right 355 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: after this. Hi, my name is Lindsay Louis. Cal Hope 356 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: is here for you with three mental health resources. 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Well, when I run for 399 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: re election, I'm not going to resign for those few 400 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: months as I run, so I'll still I'll be in office, 401 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: and that has typically happened people throughout those charges. But 402 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: I hope that what they'll see at the end of 403 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: the day that I will not be putting my thumb 404 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: on the scale. So when I run for re election, 405 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: if I lose, I'll lose honestly, and I'll take my loss, 406 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, and I'll suck it up and I'll move 407 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: on and if I win, and it'll be what it is. 408 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: But my point is, should Brian Kemp have run for 409 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: governor while simultaneously serving as Secretary of State and overseeing 410 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: his own election? Doesn't that seem like a conflict of interest? 411 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: It sounds like it is one, But there's you know, 412 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: really the elections are run at the county level. It's 413 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: a hundred county for running these elections. What they're doing 414 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: is we we have oversight, but then they report those 415 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: numbers up. You can't get in your Georgia is too 416 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: big to get in your car and drive to all 417 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: hundred counties and start stuffing ballots. So it was a fair, 418 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: honest election, and Stacy Arams needs to get over She 419 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: lost and she lost barely, and and that wasn't helpful then, 420 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be helpful now for people to question 421 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: what the results are actually are in Georgia. Having said that, 422 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: you do credit her with bringing out voters and increasing 423 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: turnout significantly in your state. She did two years ago. 424 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: It's just that Governor Kemp turned out more this year. 425 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: If you look at what happened her team and herself, 426 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: they turned out voters. In fact, Senator Purdue had fourteen thousand, 427 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: five hundred more votes in the metro region and President 428 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: Trump did. And so there's a man going forward that 429 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: Republicans need to have a message that resonates with more 430 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: people throughout the entire state of Georgia and urban areas 431 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: in particular. Yeah, and I think that bit by bit 432 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: we can make inroads there. And I think that as 433 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: we diversify and make our party really the party of 434 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: achievement and opportunity, we can do that. I go back 435 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: to Ronald Reagan days. He was my hero, and I 436 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: think he had a great message. You have been called 437 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: the most hated man and the Republican Party, and it's 438 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: actually serious because you and your wife have have been 439 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: receiving death threat Um. Are you frustrated that your party 440 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: can't take the partisanship out of the process. I'm really 441 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: disappointed that, uh, we have people, uh from our side 442 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: of the aisle that would send my wife death threats. Uh. 443 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: You know, you always think that we're if we're gonna 444 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: do cops and robbers, you know, you know, or we're 445 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: playing the Wild West show. Where the guys with the 446 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: white cowboy hats and the other ones, you know, the 447 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: other sides more with the black cowboy hats. Someone and 448 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: Democrats to do the same with us, right verse. And 449 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: when your own team, you know, you realize that you've 450 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: got people desperados with the with the black hats, it's disappointing. 451 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: I like, I thought we were above that, but obviously 452 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: we're not. That's that's what is disappointing. We need to 453 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: realize that the election results have been accurately counted. It's 454 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty nine counties and it really just shows 455 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: you where we are as a as a state. The 456 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: problem is when you live in your bubble of a 457 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: Trump you know, district, you don't understand how it happens. 458 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 1: But districts change over time, and that's why we need 459 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: to make sure that we always, you know, build on 460 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: our message and make sure that we're reaching out to 461 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: voters before we go. It seems to me that one 462 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: thing Americans probably agree on is that there probably need 463 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: to be some reform, some some I know, it's state 464 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: by state, and even if Georgia is going doing a 465 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: good job, when you look at the big picture, Brad, 466 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: what reforms would you institute to make make voting easier 467 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: and and and more accessible for all Americans. I think 468 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: for US Georgia already we have sixteen days of early voting, 469 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: we have election day voting, and we have no excuse 470 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: absolute voting. But I think that we really need to 471 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: look at the guard rails for absolite so you don't 472 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: have these questions, so you really can be certain. We 473 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: added that portal with photo IP. It really gives people 474 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: confidence you if you're using it, they're really checking that 475 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: it is me. That's a good thing other people that 476 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: know that you're using it. And then I think also 477 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: being able to join what is callite talked about Eric, 478 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: so when you move different states, we can update the 479 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: voter roles with objective measures. When we just take people 480 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: off without those objective measures, it seems very subjective, and 481 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: that's what creates distrust. So we keep it more fact based, 482 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: objective based. I think that's a good thing. I'm an engineer, 483 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: so I think that way. I think at the end 484 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: of the day, we need to get some more engineers 485 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: as secretaries of state and less politicians. And what about 486 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: like claims that dead people are voting or people are 487 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: getting multiple ballots. Um. When you hear those anecdotally, I 488 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: think it sometimes undermines trust in the system. Are there 489 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: measures and guard rails, as you would say, in place 490 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: that even if that happens, those votes are not necessarily counted. Well, 491 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: when the Republicans had the State House for two years 492 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: and Doug Colums did nothing the one thing he should 493 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: have done because we've hit you know, headwinds with federal laws, 494 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: but they don't let us update the voter roles ninety 495 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: days out. But here's why it's so important. With seven 496 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: point six million registered voters in Georgia and nationwide statistics 497 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: say eleven percent move every year. That means that eight 498 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: d Georgians are moving every year. Have to be moving 499 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: within the state, within the county, but the other half 500 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: to be moving to other states ninety days out. That's 501 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: two people that have votd in ninety days. It's it's 502 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: an awesome number. Like think, you know, we're so mobile, 503 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: but if you can't update it, how do you keep 504 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: up with your list that you could be off by 505 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: up to a hundred thousand and a half of those 506 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: are moved out of state, and so those are things 507 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: that need to be addressed, that you have accurate roles 508 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: so people aren't voting in two different states, and then 509 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: also making sure we keep up with the death records 510 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: and other situations. And that's why ERIC is is very objective. 511 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: It's Democrat Republican states, so it's multi state. It was 512 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: really headed up by fellow named David Becker. You should 513 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: get him on sometimes he's with Center of Election Innovation 514 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: and Research and he's done a really good job helping 515 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: bring it both sides together to form ERIC because it's 516 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: like Ronald Reagan said, trust but verify, and so sometimes 517 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: there's not that trust, so we have to verify and 518 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. And ERIC again stands 519 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: for Electronic Registration Information Center and there's a website called 520 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: ERIC states dot org. Alright, well, Georgia's Secretary of State, 521 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: Brad Rathinsburger, thank you very very much for talking with us. 522 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: Thanks really appreciate it. Good luck with everything, Brad. Thanks. 523 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: Turnout is a production of I Heart Media and Katie 524 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: Curric Media. The executive producers are Katie Curic and Courtney Littz. 525 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: Supervising producers Lauren Hansen, Associate producers Derek Clements, Eliza Costas 526 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: and Emily Pento. Editing by Derrick Clements and Lauren Hansen, 527 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: Mixing by Derrick Clements. 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