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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Kyle Skorber and welcome to the Philly Show. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Rubin Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's a lucky It's the

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Speaker 1: Philly Show. It's Wednesday, December tenth, twenty twenty five. We've

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Speaker 1: been talking all week about the winter meetings and what

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Speaker 1: the Phillies are gonna do, and oh, they did something

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Speaker 1: big on Tuesday, guys, Kyle Schwarber and the Phillies have

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Speaker 1: agreed to a five year, one hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 1: dollars deal. What do we think, guys, Let's jump right

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of Schwarberfest, a lot of ho gies.

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Speaker 2: Not surprised, not surprised that the number, not surprised that

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Speaker 2: we've been feeling all along. Important player to what the

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Speaker 2: Phillies do offensively in the clubhouse and the community. He's

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Speaker 2: been one of the best signings in club history. Four years,

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Speaker 2: seventy nine million. In the offense they've gotten out of him.

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Speaker 2: They had a ten year drought in the postseason. They've

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Speaker 2: been there four times with him, and others, of course

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Speaker 2: have contributed, but one of the best signings in franchise history,

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Speaker 2: right up there with that initial Zach Zach Wheeler deal.

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Speaker 2: So not surprised that John Middleton was not going to

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Speaker 2: let him get away. That's what we had been hearing.

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Speaker 2: And they go to five years. I'm sure they would

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Speaker 2: have rather had four, but you go five and we

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Speaker 2: all think that Batsby's going to hold up. He's not

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Speaker 2: him losing a step. You got a few young players coming,

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Speaker 2: and I love the chance that he has to impact

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Speaker 2: So I'm very enthused by the signing.

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Speaker 3: Totally agree, great insight on that with the young players,

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Speaker 3: because he will be influential with those guys.

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Speaker 1: There's no question about it.

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Speaker 3: He is as strong in a clubhouse presence as we've

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Speaker 3: and that's high praise. I don't quite think that anybody

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Speaker 3: especially as of late, and the Phillies probably said, hey,

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Speaker 3: make a move so we can figure out what we

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Speaker 3: like we talked.

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Speaker 1: About, I mean, he wasn't going to drag this out.

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Speaker 3: He wanted to know what was happening. He wants to

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Speaker 3: know whose teammates are going to be, what kind of

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Speaker 3: so I'm sure that that was a part of the

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Speaker 2: So we used to talk.

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Speaker 3: About how many hits you got that day, a face

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Speaker 3: full of them? Well he got a face full of years.

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Speaker 3: And it's a great thing. I love Kyle Schwarber for

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Speaker 3: so many different reasons, but I also do believe, I

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Speaker 2: And I know a lot of people talked about, you know,

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Speaker 1: Well he has in the past.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't don the last couple of years as strongly

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Speaker 3: not just the amazing production that he's had. I mean,

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Speaker 3: think about it, he started coming close to like an

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Speaker 3: a Lynch pin. Now the question is what's next?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely you know, so you guys mentioned the other teams involved,

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Speaker 1: and or we've been talking about the other teams involved.

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Speaker 1: So something. A few things that I learned on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: that I wrote on Tuesday night at MLB dot com

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Speaker 1: my story. Well, first, I should say Ken Rosenthal, part

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Speaker 1: of Fair Territory and File Territory, reported that the Orioles

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Speaker 1: offered this same contract five years, one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: As we'd been talking a couple of weeks ago, the

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Speaker 1: and said, listen, we want to get this done. Here's

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Speaker 1: They made the offer to match the Orioles. And that

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Speaker 2: So that's a great insight.

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Speaker 3: That's great insight there, todd On on that stuff, because listen,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I look at when I hear you know, Baltimore,

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Speaker 2: that's a great piece of reporting by Kenny. You know,

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Speaker 2: Baltimore made the exact same offer Cincinnati. We knew it

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Speaker 2: testament to the galvanizing power of Kyle Schwarmer in a

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Speaker 2: His testament to what it's called package.

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Speaker 1: He is. Yeah. Absolutely. When I mentioned one other thing,

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Speaker 1: Rob Thompson was asked on Tuesday about, you know, where

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Speaker 1: Schwarber protect Harper next season, as supposed to Harper protecting

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Speaker 2: Whether it said the same thing last winer meetings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly right, exactly right, And then Harper got hurt.

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Speaker 1: And then when Harper came back this season, it was

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Speaker 1: like you know, they kind of switched those spots in

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Speaker 2: You know, that could change if they get a right

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and it's it's awesome. So you know, Ruben,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that offer is. Maybe two years.

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Speaker 1: How long they should wait. Do they have to wait

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, if they get him on a

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Speaker 2: two year deal, win win.

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Speaker 1: I agree, win win for the Phillies.

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Speaker 3: And the question is I think I would assume that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean for right, exactly exactly. So what

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Speaker 1: Somehow, some way.

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Speaker 3: That's where I would be right now, just to change

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe when Bashitt and Bregman find homes and the

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Speaker 1: And they have a lot they have a lot of space. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Hey, I got a question for you guys. Would you

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Speaker 1: Right and you know, like one of those two guys.

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Speaker 2: You know, Rob.

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Speaker 5: You always it doesn't mean you have to give them

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot that still needs to happen for

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Speaker 2: We didn't get Ruben's take on it looks like Don

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Speaker 3: I love Don Manningly on so many different levels. I

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Speaker 3: obviously has a relationship with Rob Thompson, which is huge,

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Speaker 3: I think that combination is huge for the Phillies and

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Speaker 3: and it'd be really helpful for Rob Thompson as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be guys a legend. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they waited until Thompson was I think they sort

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Speaker 3: of waited until Thompson's extension happened before they made that

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Speaker 2: I think they had a lot to do with it.

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Speaker 1: Well they haven't, actually, I guess he hasn't officially been

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Speaker 1: hired yet. But but it was funny because they've Dave

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Speaker 1: So but but you know, Dave's Dave did say he's

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Speaker 1: like I talked with Rob about the comfort level. I

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Speaker 1: talked to Don about the comfort level, and then talk

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Speaker 1: with the Preston about the comfort level. The whole father

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Speaker 2: I think he was the had no issues with me

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Speaker 2: being his boss when I.

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Speaker 3: Was, when my dad was working as a as a

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Speaker 3: rover for the Phillies back then, and when Ed Wade

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Speaker 3: hired him. So it's I'm sure that Don was happy

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Speaker 2: I would think he's the only I think he's the

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Speaker 2: only guy they pursued or they have pursued for that position.

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Speaker 2: I think it was his job, like they made him

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Speaker 2: like chords. If you want it, take take a week,

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Speaker 2: take a month, think about it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: The stuff cleared Disappointingly, you didn't get it. But uh,

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Speaker 2: maybe maybe he'll come here and add a line to

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Speaker 2: his resume as a world serious champ. I mean that

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Speaker 2: that's what the Phillies want, that's what the city wants.

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Speaker 2: But it would be an incredible story for that family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. Well, that guys, that was fun.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back wrap up the winner meeting on Thursday

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Speaker 1: or Friday. Let's see what happens. Never know what happened,

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Speaker 1: but it was a big, big big Tuesday was big

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Speaker 1: though for the Phillies. They get Kyleshwarar back. You keep

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Speaker 1: that power.

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Speaker 2: Here's the other thing, Todd, Kyle Schwarber, I'm sorry to

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Speaker 2: interrupt you.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're good.

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Speaker 2: Five year deal, three hundred and forty career home runs.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna probably get to the five hundred mark while

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Speaker 2: he's here, So he's gonna be chasing the World series title,

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Speaker 2: the elusive World series title for the Phillies. Obviously he's

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Speaker 2: already got one. But he's also there's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: Cooperstown countdown, you know, with the five hundred club. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna be talking about that in a few years. So

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Speaker 2: you know, you might have two guys in that clubhouse

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Speaker 2: going into the Hall of Fame with peas on their hat,

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Speaker 2: Harper and Schwarra from this nucleus, And how cool would

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Speaker 2: that be? Very cool? But they need that extra line

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Speaker 2: on their bronze Plax World Series Champions. But I think

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Speaker 2: he can get to five hundred home runs here. He's

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Speaker 2: got like one hundred and sixty seven in four years here,

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Speaker 2: He'll get to five hundred home runs here with that

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Speaker 2: bat speed, the way he stays in shape, improving hitter,

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Speaker 2: that's a neat storyline.

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Speaker 1: That is a great point. Jim. Yeah, I hadn't even

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Speaker 1: thought about that, But you're right, he's I mean, gosh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he's gonna be dhing, so it's not

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Speaker 1: you know, he should know they're they're expecting it. Rob said,

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Speaker 1: he's like, don't expect this year's numbers every year. But

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Speaker 1: he's like, we think he'll stay productive for the for

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Speaker 1: the next five years. Pointed out the fact that he's

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Speaker 1: in tremendous shape, and man, he is in tremendous shape,

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Speaker 1: and you know he is good. That this is somebody

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Speaker 1: who is not going to rest on his laurels. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna be working his butt off from today through the

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Speaker 1: final day of that five year, hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 1: dollar contract.

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Speaker 3: And that's what separates the insight from you, guys versus

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Speaker 3: everybody else. You Todd and you, James, you're insight separators.

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Speaker 1: Lift and yeah, lift and separate. That's the way we

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Speaker 1: like to do it.

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Speaker 2: Long before that was a baseball term, there was a

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Speaker 2: commercial on TV with Jane Russell talking about lifting and separating.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'll stay away from that one.

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Speaker 1: It's a great way to end, Jim.

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Speaker 2: Okay, way to bring it home.

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Speaker 5: My slow brain literally when it click click click, ah.

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Speaker 1: I got it all right, Guys.

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Speaker 2: Clothes we gotta get rid of. That's good, Jim, juh, Jim.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you later. You gotta say your closing line, Jim.

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