1 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to the latest edition of 2 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: No Fouls Given, presented by Prize Picks. Of course, I'm 3 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: your co host Big Wise, joined as always by Danny 4 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: Green Paul Pierce. We got a super dope show in 5 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: store for you, guys. Let's get right into it. Sga 6 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Man is going streaking, y'all. He's tied Wilk Chamberlain for 7 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: the second most consecutive games with twenty plus points. He's 8 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: now at ninety two straight games, which is hilariously Wilt 9 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: Chamberlain's second longest twenty point how. 10 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: Many is this Perstone? 11 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: So so he's thirty four games off of the pace. 12 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: He could break the record this season if he continues 13 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: at it. 14 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what, but what can you. 15 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: Even say, man, about a guy that's just this consistent 16 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: in his output every single game. Every defense knows it's 17 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: on him to get okay, C's offense going yeah. 18 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: And he still delivers every game. 19 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's what's most impressive, right, Like the 20 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: scout reporters out they. 21 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: Know what he can do, they know his spots that 22 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: he likes to get through. 23 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: But I think that's also a test of how good. 24 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: His team is like you can't just double him, you 25 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like they're developing other guys. AJ 26 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: Mitchell come up the bench, scoring even Isaiah Joke, Alex Caruso, 27 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: Lou Dort, they're doing this. J Dubb still not even Yeah, 28 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: he's not even. 29 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: He's not back yet. 30 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: He's not even in his his form. So Chef having 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: some games Isaiah Hartenstein, like they got a good group over. 32 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: This allows him to I want to say, just play 33 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: one on one. But he's able to took more io 34 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 2: than your average superstar. You don't see Anthony Edwards be 35 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: able to do that every night, you know what I'm saying. So, 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: but it's impressive, bro. So that this is a record 37 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: that's been held for since the sixties. That's that's over 38 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: sixty years. 39 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 4: You just can't stop him. You know, he's starting to 40 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 4: give me that Jordan presence, Like seriously, yeah, Like I'm 41 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 4: looking like, all right, he's gonna get thirty. 42 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can clock it it. 43 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 4: I know we had cove lebron kd and they will 44 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 4: have big nights, but this dude is consistent thirties, Like. 45 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: Like, come on, man, you don't see that type of 46 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: focus or that type of hunger. 47 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: You know, I'm surprised not on this list too, uh 48 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: Cob and Iverson. 49 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Iver said, I thought for sure. 50 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: Because the way they get to the line, get to 51 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: the line every single game, and they are going to 52 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: get their attempts up. 53 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 4: So then maybe injuries, Yeah, getting injured in the middle 54 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: of the game. 55 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Yes, And to me, that's the part about Shay is 56 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: his his consistency. He's always available, man, he just plays. 57 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: He's in every single game. 58 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: He's not satisfied, bro, No. 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: You would think that they would come into the season 60 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: with a little bit of complacency after you know, winning 61 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: the championship is a huge breakthrough for all these young guys, 62 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: and it seems like they're even more hungry. 63 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, they getting greedy. Man. 64 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: Is it considered a point guard or two guard? 65 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: That's that's the debate I was gonna bring up because 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: you know, he had that shooting guard conversation. 67 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: I mean, to me, he's their point guard because nobody 68 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: else on their team handles the ball as much as him, 69 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: nobody in like sometimes you know, I feel like with 70 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: SHA's penetration, like j Double do some initiation at times, 71 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: but like they don't let Isaiah Joe or Agent Mitchell 72 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: does a lot of his own creation for itself for sure, 73 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: but he's not really you know what I mean, I. 74 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: Feel you, but I feel like last year was more 75 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: point guard. This year he's been playing more off the ball. 76 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: I feel like they're trying to preserve his energy somewhere, 77 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: having Alice Caruso or a J Mitchell or somebody else 78 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: bring the ball up. Now, he does bring the ball 79 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: up sometimes, but he's shown that in the finals against Indiana, 80 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: like how to like he can play off the ball 81 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: some you know, because he needed to because they were 82 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 2: running on flow and fatigue. 83 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 4: If he hold on at the pace, he going that 84 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: if they win it again, he gonnamuck up a lot 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 4: of all time conversations of course, like whether we rank 86 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 4: him as a point guard or two guard. 87 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: That's that's the converce. So again, when we talked about 88 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: James Harden and shoot like who else to put James 89 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 2: Harden to the point guard? Conversation like that was somebody 90 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: brought that message and who else would consider him a 91 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: point guard even though he has played point guard. 92 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: I mean, he's not like that. 93 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 1: A couple of years that he played with Chris Paul. 94 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: I guess he played with Ross as well, who was 95 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: obviously the point guard, but for most of his career 96 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: he's been. 97 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: But again, when you retire and retire him as a 98 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 2: point guard or shooting guard. 99 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just so interesting, man, the. 100 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: Way must point really you retire James the point. 101 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: I'm putting steph at point. 102 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I go, I go. You should be placed at 103 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: who's guarding you because that's the case you're puting Lebron 104 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: James's point guard too. 105 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think most people would say the other Like 106 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: most people would say, people would say. 107 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: Whoever guard you guarded, who is guarding you? Because even 108 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: though Lebron James is playing point guard, point guards are 109 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: not guarding Lebron Jay. It's the small Even though James 110 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: Harden is playing the point guard, it ain't point guard guard. 111 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: It's usually a small forward or a shooting guard that's guarding. 112 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: So that's how I place most guys. It's who is 113 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: guarding you, both on sha but mostly shooting guards point guards. 114 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: He's too, he's a bigger. Yeah, even though Kate is 115 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: a bigger point guard, like they have other big wings 116 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: like you probably, but he's still like a true to me, 117 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: more of a point guard than the other guys. I 118 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: feel like he's also creating. 119 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 4: He's a superstar, but like I feel like he should 120 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 4: be a bigger superstar for some reason, I. 121 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: Think the market the market. 122 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: I think these. 123 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: Guys Canadian, I don't know. 124 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: I don't think it's that. 125 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: I think these guys are just so used to not 126 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: being themselves in public, and I think that affects their 127 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: ability to connect with the wide They're just too corporate, 128 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: Like they get told like, yo, go out, don't make any. 129 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: Waves because of your money. Is it because of the 130 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: social media era? 131 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: I would? I would say so. 132 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: I think guys are just less afraid to be themselves, 133 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: Like you know, like Charles Barkley, for instance, he was 134 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: never the best player in the league, but. 135 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: He connected with fans because he would say shit, you know. 136 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: What I mean. 137 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: But when he said it was taken to it like 138 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: because you didn't hear him say it, so like. 139 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 4: Don't you don't have a commercial, Yeah, you don't have. 140 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: As much access to him. 141 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: But he's like his his Nike commercial was I'm not 142 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: a role model, you know what I mean? 143 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 4: Remember that? 144 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: Well, I think these guys the opposite. 145 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think these guys take the opposite track, and 146 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: so they're not connecting with fans like I love Jason Tatum. Okay, 147 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 1: I watched The Top the Top five Starting five on Netflix, 148 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: and what I got from him was he loves his mother, 149 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: he loves his child, he loves to play basketball. 150 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: That's not interesting. 151 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: That's not enough for you. No, Like on a personal level, 152 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: you need to find more. I just feel like I 153 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: think he is. 154 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: Just so like he's not gonna give you anything. I 155 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: don't in terms of personality. 156 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: Again, I think it's because in today's world, less is 157 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: more like you're more of a celebrity. Less you show 158 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: Like That's why when people watch Kawia, like, yo, what 159 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: is he gonna say? Oh, it's funny because you don't 160 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: hear him say it that much. Like back then, they 161 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: didn't have as much access to guys. So whenever they 162 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: said something or they did something, oh shit, I just 163 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: saw Michael Jordan do this, or he went over there. 164 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: If Shay's doing tiktoks again, look at him like Jared McCain, 165 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, I just in a 166 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: different light. 167 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: I think guys like John Morant and Edwards, while they're 168 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: bigger stars in terms of like popularity than Shay is 169 00:07:50,760 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: because personable, Yeah, the people personality and for sure. 170 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: He's a bigger superstar to Shay. 171 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: I would, I would he could have been. I don't 172 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: think right now. Maybe maybe right now because he was 173 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: more like. 174 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: And he's never played as good as Shake just Alexander's 175 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: playing now, you know what I mean? 176 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 4: The top four players in the league, our top four 177 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: are like, bro, these guys like when you look at it, 178 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 4: like a joker wemby Luca. I think. 179 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: I think these guys are not as popular because they 180 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: get told because like you know, a lot of people 181 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: emulate Lebron right and he's like, you know, he's super professional, 182 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: but right, but I'm like, he didn't come in the 183 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: league that way though, Yeah that's not how he was 184 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: his first three seasons. 185 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: Personality, yes he did. 186 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: You know, he was doing the commercials playing different characters 187 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: and you know, like these guys get some of the 188 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: wrong lessons. To me, it's like, yes, we don't want 189 00:08:58,720 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: you to get d. 190 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: You wise and domestic violence, like yeah, we. 191 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: Don't want you to do that, but like that doesn't 192 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: mean you got to be a Robot in public, and 193 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: I think that affects. 194 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: Their brand, their personal brand, that's mine. 195 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: I agree. I guess I also say to blame anybody, 196 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 2: but that's their groups like fault for not branding them 197 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 2: that way. Like there's certain guys that could be branded 198 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: that way, like and shows personally they can say s everyone. 199 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: You know, Gilbert was like, oh he paid a million 200 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: dollars throw party. Not say you're gonna do that. I'm saying, 201 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 2: you can put yourself out there, more like we're gonna 202 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: go to look. 203 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: At our stars. Was in the movie music videos connected 204 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: with the culture, you know what I'm saying. 205 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: Carmelo was was wearing stop Snitching t shirt. 206 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: We just connected like Stars is connected with the culture 207 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 4: as much as we did. I don't think, yeah, that's 208 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 4: that's that blew them up. 209 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: I honestly think that's what it is. 210 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: And again you think about somebody like Paul or KG 211 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: who he played. 212 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: The more locked in on the game than actually do 213 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: it like they but. 214 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 3: They were also they just felt like people. 215 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: For sure, movies music videos that you actors. 216 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: Like, what's the most interesting thing you've ever heard Jason 217 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: Tatum say? And again he's somebody I admire his game. 218 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: He's like, you can't think of one. He's just he's 219 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: been programmed to be like, nah, we don't do that, 220 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: We show up our job, we go to home. 221 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: I just think maybe because this generation is more under 222 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 4: the microscope to. 223 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: I think being on being on the social media and 224 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: being able to see thousands of people just talk ship 225 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: about you. 226 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's alway gonna take an. 227 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 4: Effect everybody to like you. Yeah, that's what it is. 228 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: And anything you do is gonna be taking a negative, 229 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: like they're gonna find something to pick apart and be like, oh, 230 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: why the fuck you doing this? Why even when pods 231 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: in the podcast? 232 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: Why you don't podcast? Losing it? He had. 233 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: Podcast because he was playing so bad. 234 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: Even said the pocket like podcasts don't take a lot 235 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: of time. Do the podcast. In the finals, they was 236 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: on his head like he's like, I'm gonna do this 237 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: podcast and they won't like yo. Then they started saying, 238 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: all right, podcasts aren't the reason why you're playing bad, 239 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: but they're not allowed. The fans aren't allowing guys to 240 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 2: do anything other than play basketball, because if you do 241 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: and you don't play well, oh yo, I shouldn't be 242 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: selling ice cream, or you shouldn't be doing clothes. Why 243 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: are you doing fashion? 244 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: And even somebody likes Steph who like definitely always super 245 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: careful with his words, like his game is just way 246 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: more expressive. 247 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: He does put on entertainment. He's gonna give you a 248 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: little you know what I mean, He's gonna give. 249 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 3: An expressive game shape. He's just like, nah, bro, I'm 250 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: getting machine. 251 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 4: I just do this terminator, Yeah, terminator. 252 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: You know. 253 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,479 Speaker 3: And I think that is affecting. 254 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: You need more entertainment vibe. I think so, which is 255 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: crazy because again we have kids like sell Like would 256 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: you teach him? 257 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't encourage it, but if they did it on 258 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: their own, I wouldn't be too crazy about one of 259 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: my boys kids is. 260 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 3: He's the kind of guy. 261 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: He's the kind of kid he's like seven, like when 262 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: he scored, like if he trucks somebody in football, Like 263 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna. 264 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: Talk emotionally, he's gonna even emotions. I don't want you 265 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: to be. 266 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 4: But also the superstars I feel like are superstars now 267 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 4: they live more of a private life, like the superstars 268 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 4: who are marketing. Think about the lebron and and staph 269 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 4: like we knew what type of food they like to eat. 270 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 4: Who was like wifies and kids because they opened up facts. 271 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 4: I feel like this generation, the newer stars are a 272 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 4: little more closed, the. 273 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: More private people. 274 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I think it has it's it has 275 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: an effect, like people don't feel connected personally to the 276 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: newer guys. 277 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: I don't disagree. I think there's a way they can 278 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: separate the two. Like if you want to keep your 279 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: family private, but just be you this. Some guys said, 280 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: I didn't know Jimmy had kids. You know what I'm saying, Like, 281 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: like you can keep your family separate from what you 282 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: do off the court and on the Like what I'm saying, 283 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: like your your branding, whether it's magazines, fashion, even Kawhi 284 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: he's starting to get into more fashion stuff, Like you 285 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: don't know much about those families want to know that stuff. 286 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: But you can separate if you want to keep your kids. 287 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: Nobody at the top. Nobody at the top separates. 288 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 1: That, Hey, y'all pioneered bringing his kid to the press conference. 289 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like, nobody at the top 290 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: separates that. They let you know, Yeah I'm married or 291 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: I'm dating who the kids? You know? I'm just like y'all. Yeah, 292 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 4: ain't nothing wrong with that. So you know what I'm saying, 293 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: human you humanize yourself. 294 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I want to see I want to see 295 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: Shade gain and White the audience because I just think 296 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: he's a remarkable player and like, aside from the personality 297 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: selling of yourself part, I think he's like a beautiful 298 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: example of everything that's right with the NBA right now. Like, yeah, 299 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: he was like a late lottery pick, you know, just 300 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: came in and just got better every single season, worked 301 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: his ass off, you. 302 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: Know, he does that, He does have the order to 303 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: be that. 304 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: I think he's Yeah, I think he could be a 305 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: compelling person, but he got to. 306 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: Do more to put himself out. 307 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 4: I think so too. 308 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: This episode is brought to you by Prize Picks. 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In response 343 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: to hearing about the milestone that he cleared, Gianna said, quote, 344 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: I think it's four years away, four or five years away, 345 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: four and a half years away. And I think when 346 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: we are going to be thirty five years old and 347 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: sitting this year, going to have a discussion, I'm in 348 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: the top of the list of all time scoring. 349 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: I mean again, looking at the list, I'm realizing why 350 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: he wasn't one of the fastest. Like he did this 351 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: without a jump shot. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, 352 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: everybody else paint free throws. 353 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. 354 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: So I don't think this is something he can't sure 355 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: if he stays healthy enough, that's the biggest thing. 356 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: That's the thing I think with Janni's for sure, especially 357 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: with his style of play, is so physical, so like 358 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: he's so. 359 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: Fast, it's it's it's it's taxing physically. 360 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 2: He's definitely gonna be. He's probably leading the league or 361 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: history in dunks, right, He's definitely gonna be. Probably, I 362 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 2: don't see anbody I don't think gonna catch that one. 363 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: He's definitely gonna get to thirty thousand for sure. 364 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: And as you can tell from his response, and I 365 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: don't want to make it sound like bad, but like 366 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: Yannis cares about his numbers. He's very Oh yeah, I know, 367 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: so you're very big into the stats he's because it 368 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: feels like for him it's like shows his stature amongst 369 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: his peers, his ability to achieve certain stats. 370 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 4: I think the stats driven error though. Yeah, I truly 371 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 4: believe that. 372 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: I'm with you, But I think I don't think he 373 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: cares about his stats as much as others do. I 374 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: think he does care. He thinks he does care about winning, 375 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: but I think he just wants to be appreciated for 376 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: what he's what he's doing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, 377 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 2: is like I'm able to do this. I'm gonna keep going. 378 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: Because you gotta remember to remember that whole discussion was 379 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: having like four or five years ago, Joannis don't got 380 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: a bag. I think that kind of stuff like pissed 381 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: them off, like it's like. 382 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 3: A it's like special bron you know what I'm saying. 383 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure said that the same thing about Jordan. 384 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: Never said Jordan. 385 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: In the bag, Nah, I don't know that then in 386 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: the bag. But again he simplified the games where you have. 387 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: To do like one to dribble pull ups bro Away 388 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 4: one has been man. 389 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 3: To create space for those shots. 390 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 4: You have to have one or two dribble pull. 391 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 3: Ups go back and just Kyrie doing crazy ship off 392 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 3: the backboard Kyle. 393 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: Kyle had a mixed like you can make move one 394 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: on one io. 395 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 3: Moves like so Jordan had no bag. 396 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 2: I say no bag. I just don't think. 397 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, one to dribble pull up. 398 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: Cop had unbelievableotwork too, like different. 399 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 4: As a bag. First of all, just those to the shot. 400 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: I think to me, like what what. 401 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: You have a plethoro of movie. 402 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, the defense does this. 403 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: They don't not not predictable. 404 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 3: Yes, you have multiple counters to the test. 405 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: You have counters. 406 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 3: To me, that's a bad I. 407 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: Think they have the capability, but they didn't have to 408 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: counter because Mike was one two dribbles. You know you're 409 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: not stopping, get to a spot and he's jump. Give 410 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: your show. 411 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: They say Mike had a limited bag. 412 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 4: Mike can't limited limited that. 413 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: I don't agree. I just don't use this bad guys. 414 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 3: Hedn't need to. 415 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: He just wanted it was right to the business, Like 416 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 417 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: Like se got more of a bag though, but like 418 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 2: usually gets to you know, you can get to a 419 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 2: spot broke, Mike had a back, didn't. 420 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 3: Have to use it so impeccable. I think I think 421 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 3: Mike Kobe had better footwork than Mike. 422 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 2: I think I think. 423 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 4: No, I don't think so, I don't. 424 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 425 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 4: We watched, we watched. 426 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: I think it's just like in Evans, like Kobe had 427 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: you here to play against better. To you what I'm saying, 428 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: like Mike didn't have to do as much as. 429 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: You're doing living the mic played against I'm saying. 430 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: I'm not saying Kobe is a better player. I'm just 431 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: saying footwork wise, I think Cob had to evolve his 432 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: footwork because he's playing against better I'm not saying Mike 433 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: didn play against some good talent, but things the generational 434 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: things have gotten better, bro over time. 435 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 4: Mike had limited bag? 436 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: Did Paul Pierce have a bag? 437 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 4: Because? 438 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 3: To me, like, what is this game? 439 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: Besides, I think they had the capability like. 440 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 3: So many moves to get by guys. 441 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 2: Mike had a bag, you didn't have to use it. 442 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: Cob had a bag. He used it a little more 443 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: than Mike. I think he was capable of using different moves. 444 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: He didn't have to like jigga guards us bumping, how 445 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: to get to the spots, make a couple of moves, 446 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: keep it simple. 447 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 4: Like Harden got a bag because he's gonna get it. 448 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 4: Why I have a bag? 449 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: He's capable, but you don't use it like that. 450 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 4: But I'm saying, yeah, no he got a bag. 451 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: To me, what a limited bag is like big man DM. 452 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 4: Got a limited bag somewhat Yeah, UK score thirty with 453 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: a limited bag. 454 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: So I'm not one of. 455 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: These people that's like the moves in still crazy, but 456 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: it's not a crazy amount of tools there. 457 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: The tools that he has are excellent, you know what 458 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 3: I mean? 459 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so again, but like. 460 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 4: That's no bag that's giving you twenty five today. 461 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 3: No, I didn't say no bad I limited bag? Then 462 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 3: limited what them so because maybe you could say a 463 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 3: shock or something. 464 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: I mean, got a bag, got a bad But. 465 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: Yo, kids has so many fucking moves, the counters to the. 466 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: That's all footwork. Yeah, and I think that's where, like 467 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: I said, Mike has a footwork. Cod had the football. 468 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: That's where their bag was was the footwork? 469 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: Does polo band Carol got a bag? 470 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: I think he has a bad I think it's a 471 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 2: little it's a little limited. I think it's a little 472 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: limit limit. 473 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: I think it could be better. 474 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: Okay, got a I think he lost too much on 475 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: his stree, you know what I mean. 476 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: But even Franz, I like, I don't see Franz. 477 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 4: Would have like not twenty twenty five. 478 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 2: You know, Franz getting to it. But I follow right now. 479 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 2: They're playing pretty well. But like to say, they're just 480 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 2: like certain guys are just bigger guys' get to my spot. 481 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: I can shoot over you. You're I'm gonna stop on 482 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: a dime or change give your shoulder bump. You're not 483 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: you're not recovering. I'm shooting over you. 484 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: To me, I just thought it was unfair to be 485 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: like Joannie when when Hardy was trolling him and all 486 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: of that to be like Yannis, he don't got no 487 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: moves like you got most of down here, he got move. 488 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: This is a little yellottle I'm saying, little stutter step cross. 489 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 4: Most of your bag to me is like you got 490 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 4: about four or five go to move. 491 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 3: Who's who's the baggiest god bag? 492 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 4: I'll tell who the baggie is right now? Is for 493 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 4: sure right now playing joker, Yeah, I'm. 494 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: Gonna put crazy. 495 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 4: I saw that. 496 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 2: P is not revailable now, but jo Jo Ki James, Harden, James, 497 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: it is not as what it used to be. He 498 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: don't have to again, he's older. He's getting to a 499 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: spot step back between twenty steps, you know what I'm saying. 500 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 4: Like Austin Reeves got a back, got a bad. 501 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: He's got a back, so. 502 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: Respect he's gonna get to thirty thousand points even with 503 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: a somewhat. 504 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: Something something like smaller players have to have more of 505 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: a bag. You have to like I'm thinking of East, 506 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 2: like who. 507 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 3: Is harder for you when you were a smaller guy? 508 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: Damn Thomas, I don't know. Maxie got a little back, 509 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: but he's he's like explosive like speed. Jay Len Bruston 510 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: got the back because he's got step back or getting 511 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: too the like you're not gonna but he got a bag. 512 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 2: But jaylen Burnson has got a lot of footwork, pivots, shoulder, 513 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 514 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, a lot of different ways to get his 515 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: stuff off, and he'll do it to get a variety 516 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: of the defenders. Remember, like big guys used to give him, 517 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: like problems and stuff, you know what I mean, Like the. 518 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: Bigger Wings used to give Rangy. 519 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: Guys used to give him. He figured that out. 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Let's get to our favorite part of the show, 562 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: which are the picks of the night presented by prize picks. 563 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: The Clippers who are struggling mightily struggling. 564 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: That's not the word. 565 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 3: We're gonna get to that. 566 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: The Clippers are at the Miami Heat, who are doing 567 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: the opposite more with less. 568 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: Somehow yea, the Heat are. 569 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: Let's get to a couple of picks. Let's see who 570 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: do we want to get first? 571 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: Up here? Harden more or less than twenty seven and 572 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: a half points? 573 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 4: Ooh at Miami. 574 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go less in Miami. You know why. 575 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 4: Aia coach to you. 576 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 3: A lot of great hookahs spots. 577 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 4: I think I think he's gonna get a lot of assist. 578 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: You're going less, I'm going less. 579 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna follow. 580 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 2: I think they are. They're in a very bad place 581 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: right now. And I see him enjoying himself in the 582 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 2: city and then instead of really instead of really focusing 583 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: on like you. 584 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: Said it a million times, the Heat are a very 585 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: high paced team, so he will have extra possessions to 586 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: try to get it. 587 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, I could see him not reaching the mouth. 588 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: So Kawhi Leonard, who is still gonna somewhat minutes restriction, 589 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: But excuse me, Kawhi Leonard more or less than twenty 590 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: three and a half points. 591 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 4: I got him getting more because if I got hard 592 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 4: and getting less, I'm gonna have to have him get more. 593 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to say he's gonna get his buckets. You 594 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 595 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 4: He ain't. 596 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go more as well in it and like, yeah, 597 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: you say what you're saying about your teammates, man, you better. 598 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 4: Yourself. 599 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: Norm Powell, who's been ever since he's come back for 600 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: the Heat, he's just been killing it. 601 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 3: Twenty and a half points more or less than. 602 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: Ooh, twenty and a half. He's going more, they've both 603 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: been said. Even with Tyler herroll back, they've been playing well. 604 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go less though Tyler herro back everybody healthy, 605 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 4: he had to carry a lot of them. Yeah, probably 606 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go less. 607 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go less as well. 608 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: And last but not least, Tyer Hero twenty one and 609 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: a half points more. 610 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: Or less than I'm going more. Both of them have 611 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: been playing well together that they've been able to I 612 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: feel like Bam is the one that's kind of taking 613 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: a back seat. Got you again. Last game, Norm had 614 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: twenty eight, Tyler had twenty four. 615 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go more for Tyler. 616 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, let's go. Let's go more more than twenty 617 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: one and a half. I'm gonna Tyler hero all right, guys. 618 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: The Clippers, so like before the season, like when the 619 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: season got off. 620 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: Was trying to find a word a shaky the artest 621 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: way to say how terrible I was. 622 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: I was wrong about basically Philly. I thought they'd be 623 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: horrible out the game. They've shown that they're not like 624 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: world beaters, but they're. 625 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: Like yeah, same with the Bucks. 626 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: I thought they would be pretty bad this year, but 627 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: like once Giannis has been playing, they've been kind of 628 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: a five hundred team, which you know is fine. Where 629 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: I got it the most fed up was the Clippers. 630 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: I just thought they would actually be good this year. 631 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: I thought they'd be a lot not good. But I 632 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: thought they'd be you know what, I'm with you. I 633 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: thought they would be pretty good this year. It's an odd. 634 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: Team that I watched take Denver to seven games in 635 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: the first round of the playoffs, like be one of 636 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: the best defensive teams in the NBA. Kawhi Leonards just 637 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: straight up elite wings scoring. Still, I'm like, these guys 638 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: are going to be a good team this year. 639 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: And they added Brook, Lopez. 640 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: Added Lopez added John Collins. 641 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: They got well, I think they got rid of normal 642 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: because they couldn't keep them. They couldn't pay him. 643 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: Brand was doing the ski mask way. 644 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: That's unfortunate. 645 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 2: Hip practice. He's on a very fair deal there too. 646 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: Right now he got bought out, so he's not on 647 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: the same thing was Phoenix his deals On. 648 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 4: Paper, they the most talented team when you looked at 649 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 4: it before the season started. 650 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were not ten years ago. 651 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 4: Would have been great. 652 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: Names great ten years ago. 653 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: The years logged and minutes played in the NBA careers 654 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: too old. 655 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: They just look old. 656 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 4: That came awful, bro old loser. 657 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 2: Dallas and Memphis teams. 658 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: Can we because we got some great sound coming out 659 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: of just some of the recent struggles can. 660 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: We queue up the James Harden who. 661 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 5: You wanted to play through? 662 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: Bathrooms challenges? 663 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 6: Trying to integrate those different guys into how you play 664 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 6: offensively right now? 665 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: Challenging in what ways? 666 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 4: Everywhere? 667 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: For you? 668 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 7: I mean, you've been one of the great floor raisers 669 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 7: that this game has ever seen. Is this How is 670 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 7: it more challenging to some of the other situations you've 671 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 7: been in where you've been able to race that floor. 672 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 8: I can't call the last situations or whatever like situation 673 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 8: areas is typicult. You know, we just we're not, you know, 674 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 8: not making sure it's offensively you know, defensive, which just 675 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 8: allow things that the game plan mistakes willow That happened 676 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 8: too many times. So that's it's just one of the 677 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 8: reasons why we lose games. 678 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I kind of feelin I told y'all. 679 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 4: After twenty to twenty five games, you start seeing who 680 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 4: people really are. 681 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is who they are. 682 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 4: Who they are this year. 683 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: Because Kawhi had some words as well, and. 684 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: Which is always a big deal, because Kawhi doesn't he 685 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: tries not to give quote. 686 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't give much. I think I think something 687 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: slipped up. I don't think he meant to say, you. 688 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 7: Guys have obviously had some unfortunate circumstances. Like you said, 689 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 7: you missed time. Brad has been out for the year, 690 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 7: but the previous seasons that it hasn't been totally going 691 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 7: for this group to have guys in and out, and 692 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 7: they've still kind of found ways to stay. 693 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 4: Around five hundred above five hundred. 694 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 7: What do you think is the difference with this group 695 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 7: where it's been such a struggle to kind of sustain 696 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 7: some of the blows you guys are taken early. 697 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 5: I just got to get the right lineups on the court. 698 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 5: I guess, you know, get some more talent. Play play 699 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 5: with better talent, see what happens. 700 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 7: You should, like, get more talents that like internally externally. 701 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 5: I'm saying, like playing better. I think we all just 702 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 5: got to play better, make shots a little ball, a 703 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 5: little bit more trust one another, and just get better. 704 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: So, yeah, don't I don't think I said the first part. 705 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: I don't think he meant to say it that way. 706 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: He caught himself and was like, damn, I probably should 707 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: have guys. 708 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: Wait, so you mean, yeah, not get better players. 709 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: I mean that's probably how him and James really feel again, bro. 710 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: I feel bad for James. James got traded there. He's 711 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: he's gonna play with Kawhi and certain company. They had 712 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: a good year last year. And he's never missed the playoffs. 713 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: I don't think he's ever missed the playoff. I could 714 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: be mistaken, but I know up until like fifteen years, 715 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: he's always been the playoffs. To be the first year 716 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: in seventeen years, I. 717 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: Don't know who the reporter was that framed the question, 718 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: but like he's right about hard and being a floor 719 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: racer traditionally in his career, like straight up just good 720 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: for fifty wins. 721 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: Yes that was in Houston prime James. So James is good, 722 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: but he's not. He can't do that. 723 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 3: He's thirty four. 724 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: Again, you start realizing, like again we started were retired. 725 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: We play, we play now. I could play some after 726 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: a time at basketball, but don't put me in a 727 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: situahere I have to carry a team. I couldnot do 728 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: that no more. Like if we're in a good league, 729 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: I better have a good team around me. Not we're losing. Man, 730 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: I'm not bringing it. I'm not blocking shots to play. 731 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: I'm a good floor general and shit like that. But 732 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: I can't carry a team no more. He's not to 733 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: blow up the Clippers. That's what about to ask younger, it's. 734 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: The way they put the team together is just they 735 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: realize that mediocrity is kind of the ceiling of the group. 736 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 2: Mediocre, that's what I'm saying. 737 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 3: But like, that's what I think. 738 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: They like the forty six win team this year, and 739 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: instead they're looking on pace to be in the thirties, 740 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,479 Speaker 1: which is just they're very below average and their pick 741 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: is going to Okay, See, they can't even George. 742 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: Got They gotta blow everything to try to get something back. 743 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 4: So who do you trade? 744 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: Everybody? Everybody's on the everybody. 745 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 3: Like, what do you give up for kawhal and who? 746 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 3: When he's right, it's still. 747 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: A highly why you Why the fuck you can trade anybody? 748 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 4: Listen, you got a new you got a new building. 749 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 2: Especially with the stipulations you have, you got to see. 750 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 4: Some tickets, brou I mean, you ain't just giving them 751 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 4: up for just know anybody. 752 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: At this point right now, you're not getting anybody in 753 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 2: the building anyway. Who's on the squad. They are losing 754 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 2: every every game. It looks like I think got they 755 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 2: all have value, But You're not winning with them, so 756 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: why not. 757 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 3: Just start over value? 758 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 4: I think his deal is pretty years. 759 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,959 Speaker 2: I gotta trade everybody to get picks, get some picks, 760 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: trying to get some picks and young young guys back, 761 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: like trade for young guys to places. 762 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: If you can't, Yeah, it's it's difficult because I think again, 763 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: you know the John Collins move to Brad Build move. 764 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: These are moves made because you want to be a quality. 765 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: None of them want to be there. None of those 766 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: guys want to be there. You think James want to 767 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: be there right now? 768 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 3: It didn't look like. 769 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: And the thing about John Collins, Derek Jones Jr. Those 770 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: guys for sure first, Kawhi and James last. But I'm 771 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: if I'm starting over, we don't we We took a 772 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: risk on going old with some good veteran guys that 773 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 2: we had the talent. It ain't working out CP Brook Lopez, Damn. 774 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: I might keep I might keep CP. Just we're gonna 775 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 2: retire here. But bro, what No, we gotta let's start now. 776 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: What's the what's the wait for? What are you waiting for? 777 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: It till they get older, so they lose more value 778 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: because by the end of the season. How much more 779 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 2: value to have. 780 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: And the thing about James too, Like I said, I 781 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: think he's still a valuable player. 782 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 2: I think they're all valuable. I'm not winning in that 783 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 2: such a scenario. 784 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: He doesn't really market himself as this way. But like 785 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: he's one of the hardest working guys. 786 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 2: For sure. 787 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 3: He puts a lot of work. 788 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: I will give that. I'll give him that. Like you know, 789 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 2: people think he just partnered James works Bro. 790 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 3: He puts a lot of. 791 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 2: Until point where he overworks. I'm like, yo, you might 792 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 2: want to chill. We gotta game tomorrow. 793 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: Ye think he he puts so much into it, so 794 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: obviously he really cares about it. 795 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 2: And he's put up the numbers. He had fifty five, 796 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 2: like that, he had to score fifty five to be 797 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 2: Charlotte the other night. 798 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 4: Damn, you know, crazy that sounds. 799 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 2: He's thirty seven, thirty eight years seventeen thirty seven years old. 800 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 2: He's got to score fifty because he's coming out most court, 801 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 2: like most games, first quarter, like seventeen hot for and 802 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 2: you would think getting him to a good start like 803 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 2: some of the team is a help. He can't do 804 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 2: that two halves for a full season at this age. Yeah, 805 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 2: I mean he's not getting much help. Wi is back now. 806 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: But and I was like, you know what, this thing 807 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: is going to correct itself at some point, but I'm starting. 808 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 2: Everybody's thinking that. They're like, oh, I'm starting, the Cliper 809 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: is gonna get better. I'm like, they're not getting any better. Yeah, year, 810 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 2: that's over, bro, it's not getting any better. Some people like, oh, 811 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 2: that's not after that, I said, she said ergy exactly Thanksgiving. 812 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 2: I was like, maybe since thanks they lost too to 813 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 2: some of the worst teams in the league. 814 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 4: They already looked deflated. 815 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they look defeated. They're defeated. They're done. They're done. 816 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: Bro, So forking the Clippers unfortunately, sorry to the Clipper fandom. 817 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 2: And suspect the host and All Star. And they're going 818 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 2: through all the internal stuff behind the scenes with you 819 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: know Kawhi, Uncle Dennis and you know Bamber. Yeah, it's 820 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 2: just not you gotta somehow find a way to get 821 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: a clean site, somehow started refreshed. 822 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: Tough, tough year at the end to it, doom moving 823 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: right along, man to a young rookie who's seems to 824 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: be blossoming before our very eyes. 825 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 2: How bad the Clippers are Flag But yeah, I won't 826 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: take anything away from him, but. 827 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you a rookie dropping thirty five on you. 828 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 2: With no threes. He's just shot making, just at the rim, 829 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 2: mid range. 830 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 831 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 4: That just show But that just showed me that the 832 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 4: Clippers need to get younger, more athletic. You know what 833 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 4: I'm saying, these young athletes A is coming in here to. 834 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 3: Scri destroy you. Yeah. 835 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: Cooper Flag passes Lebron to become the youngest player in 836 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,959 Speaker 1: NBA history to score thirty five points in the game 837 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: as he helped Dallas Mavericks rally to a one fourteen 838 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: one ten victory over the Los Angeles Clippers on Saturday night. 839 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: The eighteen year old went thirteen for twenty two from 840 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: the field in his twentieth career game. He's was the 841 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: top pick in this year's draft, and he also grabbed 842 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 1: eight boards. The only other eighteen year old to score 843 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: thirty five points in the NBA game is Lebron James, 844 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 1: who did twice his rookie season. 845 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 2: Cooper is a really good player, but he's not having 846 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 2: Lebron James rookie season. No, So for him to give 847 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 2: you thirty five yeah, and not to take anything Cooper flag. 848 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 2: He's a very good player. Again, I think he's starting. 849 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 2: It's gonna take him some time. He doesn't have a 850 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 2: good group round him either. Dallas ain't good either. 851 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you've been having the season from hell himself. 852 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 2: If you're losing to Dallas, who was firing Nico Harres 853 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 2: like they're firing people who Guy's still nhealthy, Kyrie ain't 854 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 2: back yet, Clays in and out of the lineup, you know. 855 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 2: So they're trying to figure it out too, And you're 856 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 2: the rookie. Gives you thirty five Lebron James night numbers. 857 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 2: That's pretty bad as a for the Clippers. 858 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think you tip your 859 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: cap to an eighteen years for sure. 860 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 2: Do we like the way he's trending. I think he's 861 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 2: trending in the right direction. He started off a little slow, 862 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 2: but he's starting to, you know, knock down more shots, 863 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 2: get more comfortable or confident again. In the beginning of 864 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 2: the season, I said this was not an experimental year. 865 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 2: Don't need to play that point guard at this point, 866 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 2: playing at the point, playing at every position because his 867 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 2: experimental year and he's he's able to you know, learn 868 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 2: through some of the failures, ups and downs, the bumps 869 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 2: and bruises and having some tough nights. But this is 870 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 2: a great year for him to grow. 871 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he got year locked up pretty much. 872 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 2: I don't know about that one. Who are you saying 873 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 2: making a lot of noise right now? 874 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 3: Is playing his ass off. 875 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: You can't forget about the anyway. But he's playing playing 876 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 2: very good basketball. There's a lot of other VJ Edge 877 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 2: comes start off hot. He fears it's a couple of queen. 878 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 2: Queen could make a comeback. It's Jery up in the 879 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 2: air race. But he's starting to trend to make himself more. 880 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 4: He's starting to separate himself. 881 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 2: He's starting to climb the ladder. 882 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think him and Nipple has definitely been to me. 883 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: Impressive rookies like Cocker play Man, that kid guys, the 884 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: two dookies playing well, but shatsa Cooper flag Man. It's 885 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: cool to see a young guy kind of making his way. 886 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: Speaking of improvement, the Orlando Magic you know now was 887 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: firing people eight games in is in this season, but 888 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: they've turned it around and I think you know the magic. 889 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 3: So just to list off how things have been going. 890 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: The Magic have won ten of their last fourteen games 891 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: after starting one and four. 892 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 3: They've seen the league's biggest jumps in points score pro. 893 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 1: So their offense is picking up since last season where 894 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: they were just like a bottom ten offense in terms 895 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: of their offensive rating, and there's reason to believe that 896 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: they're going to be a top four team in the East. 897 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 3: They got a point differential of five point three, which 898 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 3: is fifth in the conference. 899 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: They're doing this without pollow correct has been out. 900 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Polo has been out, and yeah, they got the 901 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: point differential of a team that is basically like thirteen 902 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: and six. So they've like kind of underachieved for how 903 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,760 Speaker 1: well they've played. 904 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 2: Franz so far des been whooping finals with him and 905 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,720 Speaker 2: Anthony Black. Yeah, he's been coming off the bench wilding. 906 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's coming out finally showing finally, you know he's 907 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: this year two three. 908 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 3: I know, but like it was looking kind of shaky. 909 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 2: And bro he is the first is killing the. 910 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: Jump shot is falling at like he's even when it's 911 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: not falling, he's taking it. 912 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,240 Speaker 3: He's more confident when he's jumping. 913 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, did you get to the Orlando's gonna be 914 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 4: a problem though. Yeahland again, the way they played Boston 915 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 4: and the way he finished the Sea. You gotta understand 916 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:55,240 Speaker 4: last year and France missed half the games, they still 917 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 4: was a. 918 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 2: High. 919 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 4: See you not, I mean when they were in the playoffs. Yeah, 920 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 4: I just figured if they get healthy, they're gonna be 921 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 4: a problem in these They can they can very well 922 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 4: be in the conference finals. I'm telling they got that type. 923 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: Of talent for surely open wide open. The East is again. 924 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 2: Cleveland is just not looking. Cleveland has just been disappointing 925 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: this year. Yeah, something knixas trending, nixus trending. Yeah, the Knicks, 926 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 2: like Mike Brown and they they figured out a company, 927 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 2: like even with the injuries they're against some road wins, 928 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 2: they got get it together, look like yeah. 929 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Magic again. 930 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: I thought they was somebody that was serious contended for 931 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: the conference finals, if not the NBA Finals, just like 932 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: I just I just didn't think. 933 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 3: That the Cavs. 934 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: M Yeah, I just didn't think the Cats and Knicks 935 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: were heading shoulders above these. I don't think so, you know, 936 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: But it's finally coming together, like the offense again, like 937 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: they've had like basically since the Dwight Howard years they've 938 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 1: been like a bottom ten defense. Damn there every single 939 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean offense, excuse me, themn there every year. But 940 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: so for not so for them to now don't be 941 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: kind of catching his stride on on offense. And we 942 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: know they got the defensive talent like Paul you watched 943 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: him against Boston last year. 944 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 3: These guys like have great physical you know. 945 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 2: Big Ringac is healthy and playing. You got a bunch 946 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 2: of guys, you know, Wendell Carter like big men at 947 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 2: a mobile. 948 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: They got a defensive you know, mentality, and you know 949 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: that win against the Church that was a huge win. 950 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 3: The choice been the best team in the East. 951 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: By record, and to go out and get that win 952 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: in that NBA Cup group play game super huge. So 953 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: it's nice to see Orlando is is moving in a 954 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: direction that a lot of people thought that they would 955 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: before the season started. 956 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 3: So now let's get into foul or no foul here. 957 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: Gilbert Areenez recently sat down with Al Harrington and he said, 958 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: once a player signs along contract, long a large contract, 959 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: the financial investment makes it nearly impossible for coaches to 960 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: reduce their playing times, even if younger, more productive players 961 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: are available because benching a high paid veteran creates an 962 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: untenable situation. So let's listen to the clip of Gilbert 963 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: talking about the dynamics. When you know a young guys 964 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 1: trying to crack into a rotation. 965 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 9: I got like four hundred thousand, and then they just 966 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 9: paid this through five million dollars and I'm busting his 967 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 9: ass in practice zero minutes. 968 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 3: Bro, I'm getting zero minutes. 969 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,280 Speaker 4: None of that means nothing. 970 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 9: I'm gonna I'm not gonna sit five million dollars for 971 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 9: no two four hundred thousand gods. So now you just 972 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 9: sitting there four years, you ain't got a minute, like 973 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 9: just alter league overseas when you killed this whole starter 974 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 9: for full years in practice. 975 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 4: But because they put the money behind them, that's it. 976 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 4: They ain't. 977 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: I've had coaches tell that player that four hundred thousand, 978 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: like be cool, Like. 979 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 3: Enough enough. 980 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 4: Enough. I've seen it with my. 981 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 3: Enough, so I got enough with that full full flat. 982 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: What do you what do you think about the sort 983 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: of politics of the world. 984 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 3: Just yeah, this is the money dynamic in basketball, because. 985 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 2: Like the world is not just basketball anywhere. Man, You 986 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 2: know what politic if somebody's established they're gonna get more 987 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 2: of the opportunity to mess up than you get the 988 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 2: opportunity to succeed. Right, he's making five million dollars, Yeah, 989 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 2: he's gonna be But that four hundred thousand dollar player, 990 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 2: we know he has values. You're not gonna cut. It's 991 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 2: a little bit extreme, not gonna say overseas cut. We're 992 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 2: gonna keep you because you know what you can do. 993 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,479 Speaker 2: But we're not gonna sit this five million dollar player 994 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 2: unless he shows he's really messing up for the job. 995 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 2: Practice is not enough, Like if he's not doing the 996 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 2: game and all right, now, a four hunite thousand dollar 997 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,919 Speaker 2: player will get the opportunity, but he has to screw 998 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 2: up a bunch of times for that to happen. I 999 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 2: guess the only example I can give is play with Pozemski. 1000 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, you know, like, yeah. 1001 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Clay has all the champions equity, he's got, 1002 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 1: he's got the respect of the guys, and it's like 1003 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 1: there's a younger player who's basically playing his position next 1004 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: to Steph and yet it was a lot of tension. 1005 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 2: And it was more so sure because he was rightfully 1006 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,359 Speaker 2: so deserving. I'm a starter I'm a Hall of Fame player. 1007 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,399 Speaker 2: I should be playing. I should be starting. I think 1008 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 2: it was more so for them of trying to get 1009 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 2: him out of his own head and like, let's throw 1010 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 2: a different look from him. See if he come up 1011 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 2: the bench against a different unit where we can feature 1012 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 2: him more than it was more Pozemski. But it looks like, oh, 1013 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 2: this young guy is taking the spot because he's just 1014 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 2: not playing up to his normal He's not playing up 1015 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 2: the parks where we're not winning games. So I mean again, 1016 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 2: we've seen it time and time again. But that's just 1017 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 2: the normal human. Like, yeah, that's the of the world. 1018 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 4: I gotta I gott to justify as an owner, as 1019 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 4: a general manager, as a coach, paying this dude more 1020 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 4: than him, so he's gonna get the opportunity. I can 1021 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 4: wait on this four hundred thousand to develop. This is 1022 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 4: this ain't burning my pocketbooks. But if this five million 1023 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 4: sitting on the bench just burning my pocketbooks, I need 1024 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 4: this on the dance floor. I need to see what 1025 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 4: you got on with how you're moving there. 1026 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying you play both at the same time, but 1027 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,479 Speaker 2: you can kind of mix in that forour in thousand 1028 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,879 Speaker 2: dollars player a little bit and see what he does. 1029 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 2: You're not gonna like zero minutes. And then overseas it's 1030 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 2: a little bit extreme because if you're killing, they're gonna 1031 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 2: find it. We've seen it to you. 1032 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 3: Guys are saying it's not foul. 1033 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: But I think what fans would say is because most 1034 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: people think of sports as a meritocracy, like it's merit based, 1035 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: like the guy who deserves. 1036 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 2: To play wrong. That's all I can say. It's not. 1037 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 2: It's not just like the regular world. There is nepotism, 1038 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 2: there's there's classism, there's all types of it's a system 1039 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 2: in every sport, in every field of professionalism, there is that. 1040 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 2: There's politics. And as much as you think it's the 1041 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 2: best player, no, there's a lot of really great guys 1042 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 2: that didn't make it. Then an opportunity because of they 1043 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 2: either couldn't perform in the bright lights or because it 1044 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,120 Speaker 2: was a guy that had the opportunity first made. I 1045 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 2: took advantage of it. 1046 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:01,720 Speaker 4: I think you're. 1047 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:03,760 Speaker 3: Rising. 1048 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: The NBA is very instructive because you are the second 1049 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: round pick. 1050 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 2: It's all timing and I wouldn't say I got. 1051 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 3: Lucky, but I did get lucky. 1052 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying of like when I got 1053 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 2: to San Antonio and Manu being at that because if 1054 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,280 Speaker 2: Minu was young, I don't get that opportunity. He's healthy, 1055 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 2: like he started getting hamstring issues. You know, I'm not 1056 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 2: starting over mine. And I know that he's a special player. 1057 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 2: He was an All Star. Yea, he was getting older, 1058 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 2: he started having hamstring issues, they started getting minute restriction. 1059 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 2: We have to bring them with the bench. At some point, 1060 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 2: it's like, who do we start. I got the opportunity 1061 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 2: because I could play defense. But that's how I got 1062 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 2: the opportunity. And the guys in front of me that 1063 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 2: were there at the time weren't elite, were lead defenders. 1064 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 2: Let it be another first round pick or Kawhi was 1065 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,240 Speaker 2: there before me. And what I'm saying, I'm not getting 1066 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,399 Speaker 2: the opportunity. I'm on the bench the show. What if 1067 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 2: I peaked or I didn't. I had my best years 1068 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 2: there and I go to somewhere else and I'm not 1069 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 2: playing that type of type of basketball like then, I 1070 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 2: never break in the league. Timing is everything, and it 1071 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 2: is you do need a little bit of luck on 1072 00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 2: your side to break through. 1073 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 1: Kate Cunningham sat down with Kevin Durant on the boardroom 1074 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: for an interview and the subject of load management came up, 1075 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: and here's what he had to say. 1076 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 6: You just get that pre game, working on the shoot 1077 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 6: around on the game day, or you get working before 1078 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,800 Speaker 6: a shooting aroundor after shootinground. Like when you get you 1079 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 6: usually get your individuals. Get individuals. How long is that 1080 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 6: because that's the type of ship I'm thinking about, because 1081 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 6: they because you know, we get loads. You know, they 1082 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 6: put chips on this all the time, so it's like 1083 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 6: they're trying to tailor our workouts. I'm always curious to 1084 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 6: what dudes doing throughout the game and how much load 1085 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 6: they putting on their body. 1086 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 3: I was just told today, I got to shorten. 1087 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 6: That up me too, bro, So man, I was pitched. 1088 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 10: Because it just goes into the fields like yeah, right, 1089 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 10: and so but that doesn't that doesn't align with the 1090 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 10: loads that they want, you know what I'm saying. So 1091 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 10: and I understand that. Sometimes I feel it was like 1092 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 10: I did too much trying to work. 1093 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 6: But I feel I feel as though it's a tough 1094 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 6: one and a lot of people and you know, I'm 1095 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,799 Speaker 6: always tapped into how people view our game and they 1096 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 6: view the players, and they tend to look at us 1097 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 6: as a little softer as other generations. But I'm just like, yo, 1098 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 6: if you would, we're basically in the lab in there. 1099 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 6: Sometimes it's like they can read every little thing that 1100 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 6: we do and tailor everything. You're not playing today or 1101 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 6: put this workout in twenty minutes. But as a player, 1102 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 6: like you really have to find your own rhythm amongst 1103 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 6: all of this stuff, regardless of what they say. 1104 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 10: Sometimes Yeah, you do right to bro. It's all on 1105 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 10: your field at the end of the day. 1106 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you feel like as you a young VET 1107 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 6: and UK you a max player, you feel like you 1108 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 6: can say, all right, nah, this is what I want 1109 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 6: to do. You feel like you got that type of 1110 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 6: voice within the organization again today. Yeah, it's all on field, bro. 1111 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 10: If something don't feel right you know what I'm saying, yeah, 1112 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 10: or if you just want something to be sharper like 1113 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 10: it is what it is. 1114 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:45,239 Speaker 1: So just to like just to summarize what he said, basically, 1115 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: they have these things your body as you train, and 1116 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: whatever the freaking computer science tells them is the optimal 1117 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, function of the body. They'll be like, oh, 1118 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 1: you need to do a little bit less or you 1119 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 1: need to do a little bit you can you can 1120 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,439 Speaker 1: do a little bit more. 1121 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 3: And that plays a. 1122 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: Big role in how teams are going to players and 1123 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: telling them how to manage their load, their load. 1124 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 2: That was crazy, God, this category they put it in that. 1125 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 11: Way anyway, he is saying, like He'll just it's a 1126 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 11: feel through that you go through your work set on 1127 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 11: how you how much you feel you accomplished, like you 1128 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 11: until you feel like all right, I got enough rhythm 1129 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 11: of this shot, I feel comfortable with all right, I 1130 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,320 Speaker 11: got enough work in shooting this floater or this corner. 1131 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 2: Three. I don't like how sometimes this is by feel 1132 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 2: and sometimes some guys need to be saying from themselves. 1133 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 2: But I go back to Paul had a great point, 1134 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 2: man like you can't run a marathon without practicing format, 1135 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 2: so you need more practice. But I'm going back to 1136 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,399 Speaker 2: they need to space out the games, like teams having 1137 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 2: seventeen games and twenty nine nights, and I don't know 1138 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 2: if it was different back in the day, add a 1139 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 2: couple of weeks to the sea, Like I know they 1140 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,760 Speaker 2: don't want to compete with football. We're doing it anyway. 1141 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 2: Football is now doing Christmas games well, do we start 1142 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 2: doing Thanksgiving games like you're gonna compete with them anyway. 1143 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 2: Add an extra week in the beginning season, extra week 1144 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 2: the end of the season. You can space games out, 1145 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 2: and then you also have more time to actually practice. 1146 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 2: Now guys could actually do their workouts and you won't say, oh, 1147 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 2: you need to lighten it up some because we have 1148 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 2: a game tomorrow, they have a day off in between. 1149 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 2: You have some more time in between. If you add 1150 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 2: just more time, and I think it'll change at some point. 1151 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, some guys need to be saving themselves. But 1152 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 2: some guys, again, they gotta do with what they feel 1153 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 2: is right, you know, for them. 1154 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 4: For me, I'm not I work my whole life to 1155 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 4: get here, right, and I worked how I worked. You 1156 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 4: can't tell me how to work to get better, you 1157 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,840 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like I'm not listening to no 1158 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 4: computer geek with a buttoning me up on a vest 1159 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 4: telling me that I need to stop doing what I'm 1160 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 4: doing to get better, Like that's an excuse to me, 1161 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 4: Like we've been it's been eighty two games for fifty 1162 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 4: years now, Like you just not in optimal shape then, 1163 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,839 Speaker 4: like come on, that's why you probably getting hurt, Like, 1164 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 4: come on, they don't even practice no more, So how 1165 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 4: you gonna tell me, like not to get some extra 1166 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,800 Speaker 4: shots or lift some extra weights or ride the bike 1167 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 4: like I'm conditioning my body for this long run. Like 1168 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,959 Speaker 4: if I'm constantly like, nah, I played thirty five minutes, 1169 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 4: I don't need to do nothing tomorrow. Then my body 1170 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 4: gets tight and and then I don't do nothing for 1171 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 4: two or three days, and that's where injuries come in. 1172 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,319 Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, like, don't tell me how to 1173 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 4: work like I got here, Like you over there, you're 1174 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 4: telling me that you with all them wires on that computer, 1175 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 4: been in the gym my whole life. I know mentally 1176 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 4: and physically what I need to do to be ready. 1177 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 4: Every player in the league should know that for sure. 1178 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 4: I don't need nobody to tell me. Now, you're doing 1179 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 4: too much, you know what I'm saying, Like, when you're 1180 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 4: at the highest level, you got there because of the 1181 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 4: work that you put in and the discipline, and it hurts. 1182 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,400 Speaker 4: The body hurts sometime, but that's what got you there. 1183 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 4: You know, that's what you condition to do. So I 1184 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 4: really don't like that somebody not today, get out of here, man, 1185 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 4: I'm about to go get my shots to work on 1186 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 4: this right now. 1187 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 2: Again, I think it's a domino effect man, because there's 1188 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 2: less spaces, less time to actually practice. So but I 1189 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 2: will give a test that there is When I was 1190 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 2: in Santonio, they do see where you're at and like, yeah, 1191 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 2: you keep going this right, you got the injury is 1192 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 2: going to happen. And I'm not sure if it's that 1193 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 2: year or not, but like it's happened, Like they can 1194 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 2: predict when like a hamstring or something might might come. 1195 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,319 Speaker 4: Then they ain't measuring heart and balls for sure. That's 1196 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 4: something unmeasured for sure. 1197 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 2: But again I was I was still keep going. I 1198 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 2: was still keep playing, like I'm gonna play whatever if 1199 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,320 Speaker 2: the guy's injured. I' gonna play if you don't have 1200 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,240 Speaker 2: to play me thirty five minutes. 1201 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:19,439 Speaker 4: Cool. 1202 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:20,840 Speaker 2: I was young enough. I was in my twenties. 1203 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 4: I'm not right. 1204 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 2: So you you condition your body to do that, you 1205 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,800 Speaker 2: should be able to sustain it. That's I feel like 1206 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 2: the body and the mind is a powerful thing. Like 1207 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 2: if you condition your mind and your body to do that, 1208 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:32,240 Speaker 2: you should be fine. 1209 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 1: My thing with all of it is like with all 1210 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 1: of this ship that they're doing with monitoring people's heart 1211 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 1: rate and the muscle twitch and all of that, it. 1212 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 3: Doesn't seem to be working, like getting. 1213 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,399 Speaker 2: Injured exactly what we doing? 1214 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,239 Speaker 4: What are we doing? 1215 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 2: Agree? But only you don't know the success rate is 1216 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 2: also only people behind because you don't know who. 1217 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 3: You can't say who they saved from injury. 1218 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know who was Like to be lucky, 1219 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 2: that's it for sure, Like to be lucky. 1220 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 4: These are the greatest athletes in the world get injured. 1221 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,279 Speaker 1: Like, I understand, it's a nice instinct to be, like, yo, 1222 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: we want to keep our guys' bodies fresh. 1223 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 3: You know, Like I understand, Like it's I understand that. 1224 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: But like at a certain point, man hoop has got 1225 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 1: a hoop thinking about this. 1226 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 4: What are the injuries? 1227 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 2: Mostly strains, tendons, had like. 1228 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 1: A lot of calves, a lot of hamstrings, mostly springs, 1229 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 1: mostly thumbs, fingers just located. 1230 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can't control that. 1231 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, those I get. But the other ones, the 1232 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 2: strains and the I think eight achilles last year, yeah 1233 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 2: they have and this year has been calf strings, hamstring, 1234 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 2: and I don't know what other but mostly strains I've 1235 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 2: seen like hamstring and calf like Wenby's calf, Aaron Gordon 1236 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 2: hamstring and Edwards was hamstring like Oganoba. I think it's hamstring. 1237 00:57:54,680 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 2: So those are like more so minimum minutes managing. Yeah, 1238 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 2: well again, if you practice, like like you said, if 1239 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 2: you're practicing for the marathon, you're able to get that in, 1240 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 2: then your body's more conditioned to sustain that. Because they 1241 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 2: don't have they have seventeen games and twenty nine nights. 1242 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 2: You don't have time to practice and you're flying half 1243 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 2: the time. All you do is walk throughs in lunch 1244 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 2: room what I'm saying in food rooms? 1245 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 4: So why are more players getting hurt? If we got 1246 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 4: all this, I don't know why all the stars the 1247 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 4: other day we looked at like ten stars out like 1248 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 4: if we got all of this, why are. 1249 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 2: They That was a dude broke it down. It's a 1250 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 2: combination of all of waving back to. 1251 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 4: Like a are they just doing this to create more jobs? 1252 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 3: That's trying to jobs for dorks basketball. I could believe 1253 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 3: that for sure. 1254 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 1: It's definitely a jobs program for NBA's and stuff like that. 1255 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 3: I just I don't know. 1256 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,040 Speaker 1: I like, I've like when they first started doing this, 1257 00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, of course, if the teams want to 1258 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 1: keep the player Soalthias. 1259 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 2: And the like. 1260 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 1: I've kind of changed my mind about it, man, But yeah, 1261 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 1: I do think that is an underrated part of it. 1262 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 3: Like the amount of games these dudes playing. 1263 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 2: AU the AU and they talk about the pace, They 1264 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 2: talk about the pace and changes that AU like they 1265 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 2: come into young age to now how many games? Back then, 1266 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 2: we played a lot of games too, Like bro, we 1267 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 2: played like three or four games. Now they limit kids 1268 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 2: now they have like in tournaments. Remember like Bob Gibbons 1269 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 2: and all the ship Uh, Like we played like three 1270 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 2: games a day. 1271 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 3: Now doing that all year round though we. 1272 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,479 Speaker 2: Played a lot. Man, I remember playing a lot pretty 1273 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 2: much all year around. 1274 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 4: My airplayed the same. We didn't play a we played 1275 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 4: at the park ten games a day. Or it's harder fouls, 1276 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 4: it's the different. 1277 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 1: Yeah again, man, uh, I understand why the league wants 1278 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 1: to monitor this stuff. 1279 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 3: It just seems like a whole lot of ship that 1280 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 3: now it's not it's not working. 1281 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 2: To find a new solution, a different solution. 1282 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 1: So let's close the show out with some NBA Cup predictions. 1283 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 1: We've got we're out of the group phase. We're now 1284 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: in the knockout rounds in the East, we have the 1285 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: fourth seeded Heat versus the number one seeded Magic, the 1286 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 1: third seeded Knicks versus the number two seeded Raptors. 1287 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:27,919 Speaker 3: So who do we got? 1288 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 2: Are these the games from tonight or last other? They're 1289 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 2: coming up again, Christian. 1290 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 3: Games tonight probably? 1291 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I mean this is coming up. Okay, we're 1292 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 2: I thought, what name is? Just played each other? That's 1293 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 2: what I was asking some raptors. Yeah, no, Raptors play 1294 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 2: the Hornets. Okay, you know today Sunday, So your next 1295 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:54,440 Speaker 2: Raptors just play it? 1296 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:55,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1297 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 2: Who else would? Who else on there? 1298 01:00:59,040 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 3: The Heat versus the Man? 1299 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah they didn't play Okay, all right, Yeah, I 1300 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 2: just don't see. I don't see the next beat them 1301 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 2: twice back to back. So I'm gonna go Toronto for 1302 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 2: that one. 1303 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,640 Speaker 3: Wow, Toronto took an advance to the semi finals. 1304 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 2: Huh, I see Toronto going. I feel like they could 1305 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 2: be a team that I'm saying get a little mid 1306 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 2: season cultural win. 1307 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, definitely what I'm saying. 1308 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 2: I feel like that's the teams that kind of could 1309 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 2: win these and I like the. 1310 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 1: Young guys like really really wanting to get the paper 1311 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 1: wanting to get their fifteenth guy off the bench. 1312 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, extra million and change. 1313 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the heat coming out of the east. 1314 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 1: You like the heat to just come out, just period. 1315 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 1: Beat the Magic, beat the winner of the next Raptors. 1316 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 4: They're getting healthy right now. 1317 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 2: I think they'll beat I think they'll beat Magic, but 1318 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 2: I think they end up losing to Toronto. 1319 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 3: The opposite. I think the Magic is just it's trending 1320 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 3: in such a right direction. 1321 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 1: This gives them a goal and to focus them. I 1322 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 1: like the Magic to beat the Heat, the Knicks, to 1323 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: beat the Raptors, and then the Magic to beat. 1324 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 3: The Knicks again to go to the Cup finals. 1325 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Out West, we have the fourth seeded Suns versus the 1326 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 1: Thunder and the third seeded Spurs versus the Lakers, and 1327 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,440 Speaker 1: Luka Doncis currently has the best odds to win the 1328 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 1: NBA Cup MVP. 1329 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 3: So what do you think about Suns Thunder. 1330 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 2: Thunder? But I just don't think Thunder cared to win 1331 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 2: the Cup? 1332 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 3: Got you? 1333 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 2: Will they rest, guys, one of these games got you 1334 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 2: and just say hey, f it, we don't care to 1335 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 2: be in Vegas during this time and actually get the 1336 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 2: extra extra days off maybe, and then I have to 1337 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 2: play extra games because some of those games on I 1338 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 2: guess the Cup final don't count towards the season. Got you, 1339 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 2: but I'll go Thunder. And then second, I'm gonna go Lakers. 1340 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,880 Speaker 2: Spurs no Wemby right. 1341 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 3: Probably not. This game will be December tenth, and they said. 1342 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 1: They was like usually with the with those strains, they 1343 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 1: like to give it like three four weeks. 1344 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 2: At the two weeks to read to reevaluate value. Probably 1345 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 2: in another week. So I don't think is gonna play. 1346 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go, like I'm actually covering this game, so 1347 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Lakers. I'll be a Spectrum Sports net 1348 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 2: covering this game. 1349 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna go. Okay, see Lakers with the Okay, 1350 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 4: see Thunder making the statement gonna blow out win versus 1351 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 4: the Legers to the finals Cup again. 1352 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 2: I think he think Okay, he's gonna rest guys one 1353 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 2: of those games they going. 1354 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,280 Speaker 4: They playing for history. 1355 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 3: I think Okay is gonna beat up on the Suns. 1356 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 4: I think that I'm gonna beat up on everybody. 1357 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think they should beat the Lakers in 1358 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,440 Speaker 1: the semi finals match will be back in Vegas. 1359 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 2: I got Lakers over Okay see in the semi final. 1360 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:50,040 Speaker 2: I think Okay just doesn't checks over there. I'm saying, 1361 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 2: I don't think they can. 1362 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 4: We know he working with. 1363 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 2: Picked against the Spur, Ye pick the Spurs. 1364 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, bo't cutting the check. 1365 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 4: He lived in l A. 1366 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 5: L A. 1367 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 4: Boy the Spurs jersey up, but we didn't or. 1368 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 3: Oh man, all right man. 1369 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,640 Speaker 1: So you guys be on the lookout for this NBA 1370 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,320 Speaker 1: Cup action and that'll be our show for today. 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