WEBVTT - IT: Welcome To Derry, Episode 1 “Pilot” 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:06.880 Worried today's episode contained spoilers for the first episode of it. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:26.640 Welcome to Derry One speaking Hello. Name is Jason Caccepsio 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.520 and I'm Rosey Night and welcome back to Extra Vision 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:33.360 where we dive deep. It's your favorite shows, movies, comics 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:35.199 of pop culture, company from Iron, where we're bringing you 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:40.120 three episodes a week. News plus news guys, did you 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:40.400 know that? 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:41.760 Have you listened to the news ever? 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.479 Because guess what it's gonna be on. But first, this 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:48.680 episode today is only about it. Welcome to Darius, Andy 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:55.240 and Barbara Maschetti Ratturn to Stephen King's dastardly Town with 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.600 new kids and a new era fifties to sixties. I 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:00.800 think by the time we hit the main kids were 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:05.360 in the early sixties. We are let's just say we're 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:07.160 excited about this show. So me and Jason are going 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.440 to recap the episode. Then we will introduce our scream queens, 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.000 Common and Joel to join us to discuss because this 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.480 is more than just a Stephen King adaptation. This is 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:21.560 Warner Brothers trying to launch a Stephen King connected universe, 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:23.080 which is really interesting. 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:30.880 Okay, Welcome to Darry the pilot episode, and folks, it's dry, 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:32.600 you know what. You know what's going on. The kids 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:36.319 are disappearing bad, they're ending up in the sewer. This 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.319 shit's been going on for centuries up there in Maine, 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.400 and it's going on now. We open at the cinema 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.600 with a with a showing of the music Man, Rosie, 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.080 are you the music a music man person? 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:50.680 I'm not. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.760 I'm not necessarily a music man fan, you know, I 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.560 like a like like a weirder. I like a bit 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.200 of a weird one. But you know what I did 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:00.720 learn from this episode, which is gonna make it everyone's shocked. 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:04.720 I didn't realize that the very famous Conan O'Brien monorail 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.040 episode of The Simpsons is just him doing the music Man. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.680 I had like did not flock until this opening, so 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:12.200 nice to see that. 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.920 And The music Man itself is about a guy who 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:21.880 comes to town to sell like band costumes and musical 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.639 instruments to the town. Is like, I'm gonna teach you 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:25.840 how to be a band. It's gonna be great. Every 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.480 town needs a band, and I've got the instruments and 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:29.920 all this stuff. And then as soon as he sells 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.560 the stuff, he leaves and never teaches anybody to play anyway. 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:35.960 We open at the cinema. It's the Music Man. There's 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:41.080 a young man who we're gonna find out is named Maddie. 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.320 He's watching The Music Man and he's, uh, he's got 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.400 a pacifier in and he's you know, you can tell 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:51.000 immediately he's too old to be here. But we're gonna 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.960 discover that he's got a really fucked up home life. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.520 And as you know, the people around him are kind 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.840 of saying. He gets chased out of the theater because 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.760 he's snuck in to watch the Music Man, and Ronnie, 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.839 the daughter of the theater owner, basically covers for him, 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.720 sends the guy in the wrong direction so he can escape. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:13.040 He hitchhikes a ride out of town, gets in a 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:17.200 car with a family dad, mom, teenage daughter, younger brother, 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:22.440 and it very quickly gets weird. The teenage daughter's got 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:27.200 like a container of liver juice, liver meat and liver juice, 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.160 and she like dips her fingers in the liver juice 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.760 and tries to get him to smell it. And then 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:35.720 the mom's making all kinds of jokes about her daughter's promiscuity. 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.560 It's really like what is going on? And then it 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:45.360 turns into a fucking nightmare real quick, like scary faces 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.880 and screaming and repeating or wrestling for the wheel. He's like, 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.240 let me try, and like five, oh my god. Of 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.160 course he can't do that because the dad is a 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.440 grown man with demon strength. The mom then goes into 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.680 labor and give labor of many. By the way, guys, 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.480 this is a birth heavy show. Listen, folks, We're giving 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.400 birth to demons in this show. She gives birth to 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:12.320 a gross demon bat baby. It's disgusting, a lot of 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:16.839 blood and juice the kids. Pacifire goes flying out into 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:18.839 the river and floats down into the sewer when the 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.839 baby attacks him, and then we cut and we flash 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:26.640 forward to the present four months later, April eighteen. Excuse me, 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:28.920 I wrote eighteen sixty two, as if it's the height 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.000 of the Civil War. Nineteen sixty two. They're a little 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:33.600 bit different. It's still not going great. 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.240 He's going great, But yeah, I want this. I went 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.480 into this with low expectations. I've talked on the show. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.200 I never like to yuck. Anyone's yum. I'm glad people 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:42.600 love these. 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.039 We're gonna have the scream Queen coming in those Andy 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:49.039 Michet It movies were not particularly for me. But this 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:55.440 opening is so scary and atmospheric and weird and good 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:57.560 that I was just immediately hooked. 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.040 I think the kids, the kids love horror, are gonna 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:06.000 love this. We open, Okay, So it's April eight, nineteen 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:10.520 sixty two. We are at Air Force Base Dairy. It's 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:15.040 part of the US National Strategic Bomber Command, and two 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.640 airmen are just arriving on the base. It's Major Handlan 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:22.360 and Captain Russo, and they are buddies. And also Russo 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:25.800 is like Handlan's aide de camp. It's like Handlan's going 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.760 to be commanding a major bombing wing and Russo is 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:35.880 like his main guy and his assistant. This base is 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.240 home to like the bomber wing that's going to be 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.560 like the first bomber wing into Moscow if the shit 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:45.800 pops off. But Handlan is like, listen, I'm optimistic. I 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.160 know it's nineteen sixty two and I'm a black major 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.040 in the Air Force, but I am optimistic about America. 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:58.120 I'm optimistic about the world, and I don't think there's 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.280 gonna be a world war. I mean, I think it's 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:02.000 gonna be fine. 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:06.440 Yeah, all good, and nothing is gonna happen at Dairy. 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.280 This is not a bad place. 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.599 And there's definitely nothing dodgy about having a fos bace 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.839 say that's connected to the Cold War. I couldn't see 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:15.120 anyway that this goes wrong. 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:20.760 This is and I haven't watched episode any episode. No, 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.520 but I'm eager to go. Yeah, yeah, okay, But I 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.520 just want to say, it seems to me as if 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:30.520 this show is going to draw connection between the US 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:39.520 military and Pennywise, and it was ready, I've forgot ready, Eddie. 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.680 Come on. We open on Dairy High School. You know, 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.080 it's your typical high school in the early sixties. We 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:50.960 meet Lily, and Lily is bullied because I guess she's 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:54.480 something of the class weirdo, and people make fun of her, 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.120 they put stuff in her locker, et cetera. She's got 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:01.200 a very very, very supportive best friend named Marge, who 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:05.560 is worried about her glasses, that her glasses make her ugly. 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.039 But they look nice. Glasses are great, they look nice. 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.760 It's a typically they look nice. Yeah, it's a typical, 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:15.320 kind of like a teenage small town situation. We meet Phil. 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.480 Phil is obsessed with traffic going into the airbase. He 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.440 can't help but notice the traffic is picked up lately, 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:25.760 and he thinks this means World War three might be 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:29.440 in the offing. We go to Hanlon and Russo they 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.920 meet their men in the seventieth seventieth bomb wing, and 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:39.320 it certainly appears that not everybody has Handlan's optimistic disposition 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.880 about the future of America, because there's definitely some folks 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:47.280 here who have problem taking orders from a black commanding officer. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:51.480 Definitely, And I want to say touching already on one 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.720 of the things I think this pilot immediately does beat 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:57.480 than the movies, which is the way that they look 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.360 at race and I think it's really interesting. 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:03.400 And we stop to get that touch with the Handland story. 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:09.360 The one who is the most disrespectful, disobedient to his 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:14.160 commanding officer about this particular issue is a airman named Masters, 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:18.400 and Masters, you know, basically, Handlin approaches him in this 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:22.960 moment and gives him like a free one. It's basically, hey, listen, 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.920 I get it, you don't like it, but I am 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:29.280 your commanding officer, so like I'll forget that one. But 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.680 you're gonna give me the respect I deserve. But before 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:35.079 he can give him that pass, General Shaw the Great 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:39.640 James Remar comes up and is and basically drops his 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:46.240 fucking nuts on the ges. Listen, I am the general 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:50.000 of this air base, okay, and if anybody is going 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:54.520 to bring racial discrimination into my airbase, they're gonna get 0:08:54.520 --> 0:09:01.160 fucking marshaled. Okay, you're out of here racism, right, So 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:02.880 do you have a problem? Do I have any kind 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:07.280 of problems here? Air masters? And masters like very He 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.440 doesn't want to, but he salutes the General then is like, hay, 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.160 then come to my office later. Let's have a drink. 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:13.640 I want to talk to you about it. Just stuff. 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.679 We get to another scene with Phil and Teddy, the 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.280 young friends. They're best friends. They're making a comic book together, 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.040 which you love to see. Teddy is like the artist 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.840 while Phil is like the Stanley of this. 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.120 Definitely he's the talka yes. 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:36.080 And it turns out that they were Phil, Teddy and Maddie, 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.600 the kid who disappeared. They were all best friends together, 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.160 and Teddy is like just torn up about it. It's 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.240 only been four months, and he's like, what if he's alive? 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:48.680 What if he ran away? Where is he? Phil is like, listen, 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.360 it's dairy. Kids are disappearing all the time and they're 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.480 probably dead, and I'm sad about it too, but let's 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.400 just like move on from it. Teddy is clearly guilty 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:01.480 in a way that says that they did something, and 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:17.679 he blames himself for Maddie disappearing. 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.280 It definitely feels like they're leaning into a little bit 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:26.840 more of the complexity of being a kid. There's definitely 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.520 some interesting stuff here around like friendship and guilt and popularity. 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.120 And it's not just the classic like four kids going 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.640 on an adventure like stand by Me or you know, 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:38.720 the versions of it that we've seen. 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.280 Post Stranger Things. So I really like that. 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:45.520 And yeah, I was very intrigued immediately by this conversation 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.600 and what they obviously were meant to go and meet 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.120 Matty but they didn't go. I think is kind of 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.240 the vibe like they'd said they would meet him, but 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.760 they didn't end up going, and they have guilt around. 0:10:56.440 --> 0:11:00.080 It something, or they were mean to him in some 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.800 kind of way that forced him out. I do. I 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.040 found the writing around the kids. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:06.800 You know. 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:10.920 The thing is like when you when you very often 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.680 when you have a story that involves like high school 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:18.120 middle school kids, it's hard to toe that line between 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:22.480 like the emotional rawness that like kids have, yeah, and 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:26.679 the feeling of like existential everyday dread of just going 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:31.760 to school, and but also like balancing that with not 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:36.640 making them to adult introspective, like too mature. And I 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:40.000 think they really toe the line well here. 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.800 I also think the kids are so young looking like 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.440 this is very different to what we usually see this 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.679 kind of you know, kids in high school who look 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.280 like that twenty seven or who are twenty seven, And 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.439 they did a great job of making these kids look 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.959 like that's twelve, like you believe it. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.320 It's a great point because I was actually wondering, and 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:06.120 I think this is more about shows usually casting teenagers 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.560 who are in real life like twenty eight nine. 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:09.320 Yeah exactly. 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.880 I was actually wondering. Yeah, I was actually wondering whether 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:14.360 it was middle school for a second, but it is 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.160 high school. Okay. So we go to Lily. Lily is 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:21.520 practicing smiling in the mirror because she's insecure, but also 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.640 I think she wants to remember what it was like 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.360 to smile again. She's having a tough time of it. 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:30.480 She's remembering a night when Maddie took her to the 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.800 trio of Boy's Secret Boy Hangout, which you know with 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.360 Phil and Teddy, and they had this wonderful moment where 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:42.360 you know, Lily is she's called Lily the Looney by 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.080 her bullies, and it turns out her dad was mangled 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.920 in a terrible industrial life. I think that Lily blames 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:53.480 herself for is horredous. You want to talk about low 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.800 bars for being a nice guy and a decent kid. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.560 Maddie clears that bar easily by assuring her it was 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:01.800 not your fault that your dad. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.880 More people need to be telling this child it was 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:09.160 not your God. 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.200 He then he gets caught up in the moment and 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.600 I get it there he could you know. He's talking 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.240 to her, he's looking in her eyes, she's crying. He's 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.600 telling her like, it wasn't your dad's fault. It wasn't 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.880 your fault your dad died. And he goes for he 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.600 kind of like leans in for the kiss, and she's 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.679 like whoa, and she's just kind of like, oh my god. 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:27.040 Wait what. 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.880 And then Maddie is like, Okay, that was a mistake. 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:35.240 I'm sorry. I'm going to leave now, don't tell Phil 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.720 and Teddy that I took you to the Secret Boys hangout. 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.360 And I'm just I'm going to go home. And he 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.120 goes off into the night, never to be seen again 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:50.439 to return. He's gone. Lily uh Is comes out of 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.280 this reverie when her mom comes up and is like, 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.680 you were going to your dad's grave tomorrow, so remember that, 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.800 and we're going And she's like, well, I don't want 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.560 to go, Like it's can we just I'm trying to 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:04.960 get past this. Also that she's on meds to go. 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.720 Through the grave right now. I feel like this kid 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:08.760 is dealing with this every day, Like, let her go 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:09.640 in her own time. 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.439 She's very aware her dad was crushed in the literal 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.000 geas of capitalism. 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.840 That's right. And so her mom leaves and Lily's in 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:22.920 the bathroom and she hears like, coming out of the drain, 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.240 what's that it's that sounds like the music man? Is 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:30.400 that the music man? It's Maddie. That's the distinctive voice 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.000 of young Maddie coming from the drain. He's down in 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.760 the sewer and Lily's like, what's going. 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:36.360 On down there? Maddie? 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:36.800 Is that you? 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.520 And Maddie goes, he's got made down here. 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:40.160 We we'll let it go. 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.680 Let his little bloody fingers. Two of his fingers pop 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.880 out of the drain, and Lily is scared and grossed out. 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.960 Lily goes and tells Marge, best friend Marge the next 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:55.160 day at school and Marge and I don't Faulter for 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:59.800 this at all. Marge is like, Lily, don't tell people 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:04.040 that tell she's trying to help you. Yeah, because that's 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:09.200 fucking banana. That's the nuts. That story's nuts. And you've already, 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.600 through no fault of your own, have this school reputation 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.600 as Lily the looney and that's not right. But don't 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.840 give people more ammo, and tell people this. And of 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.840 course Lily takes this like you're not I thought you 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:24.760 were my friend. And it seems like they might break 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.280 up as friends now, which is very very sad, and 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:28.600 you can see both sides of it. 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:30.680 Phil very sad. 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:36.040 We learn obsessed with seeing titties. He wants to see breasts, 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:37.280 he wants to see bears. 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:38.280 He loves boobs. 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:39.840 This he got to see him. 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:41.640 He's like he's in pookies. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:51.160 It's absolutely like just staring into windows. Like, you know, 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.240 if it goes much further than this, Phil, I'm gonna 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.440 be worried. But we have to remember this is an 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.200 age in which, uh, a young man who want to 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.560 see boobs could see him. You're not seeing him. 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.040 Yeah, No. Internet also very good way to see it, Arrah. 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.320 Yeah, it has always been about repression and childhood coming 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:10.520 of age, so that makes sense. 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:11.480 But it is funny. 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.640 I loved when I was looking through you all recap 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.400 and I was like, glad you mentioned that he is 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.960 fucking obsessed with boobs, because this kid is like, it's 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:18.840 a problem. 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.640 It's almost too much. Yeah, Like, this is a kid 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.720 who is like he's he's one step away from like 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.160 drawing tits in the dirt with a stick and staring 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:34.040 at exactly like, yeah, come on, guys. So Lily approaches 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.600 Phil and Teddy at the clubhouse and tells them the story, 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.880 and Teddy takes it. Teddy is inclined to take it seriously. 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.880 Teddy's like very wait, you said you heard his voice 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:46.760 coming in and the s were very very interesting. Phil 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.680 is like, come on, let's go through all the ways 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:53.400 that this could not possibly happen. But of course he 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.440 doesn't understand the history of Derry and the way we do. 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.440 Teddy's like, come on, wait, hold on, you're the stan Lee, 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:04.199 You're the fucking sci fi fantasy guy. Come on, like 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.800 you're coming up with all these incredible scenarios all the time, 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:08.639 and you don't believe that, like Maddie could have been 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.320 taken by some kind of like evil force and kept 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.920 prisoner in the sewer where he's talking to us through 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.840 the drain pipe. But then Teddy is like, you know, actually, 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.919 when I hear myself say it, I have to say that, 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:22.679 it's it's far fetched. 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:23.119 I can't. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:25.920 Sorry, I'm not I can't go there with you, Lily 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.080 Lily Stocks. We go to the air Force base. The 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.919 General and Handlan are having that little drink and he's like, listen, 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:39.440 guess what, your buddy masters, I put him on latrines 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:43.440 for like the next month, so he's cleaning your Make 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:47.240 sure to fucking drink five cups of coffee, have some oatmeal, 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.600 and then take a big wet dump and then I'll 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:52.639 send him in there to fucking clean that up. How 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.960 about that Handland Apparently an ace pilot he was he 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.000 earned his wings in Korea, where he was doing all 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:06.800 types of action movie type stuff and when he talks 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.600 about Korea. When when the general talks about Korea, Handlan 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:11.960 is like, I don't like talking about Korea. Handlin's and 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.160 the generally why and He's like, because we didn't fucking 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.359 win on some Michael Jordan shit. 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:23.320 Wow, all right, undefeated warrior whoa okay think about that one. 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.400 Handlan is apparently on base because there's a brand new 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.720 Bee fifty two bomber with all the bells and whistles, 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.439 and Handlan is just the guy to test it out. 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:36.680 We go to Teddy's family house, Teddy's Jewish, at dinner, 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.840 his dad's prayer and then they're, you know, passing food 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:45.679 around and Teddy is like, Dad, let me ask you 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.840 a question. You're a man of the world. Is it 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:54.080 possible could this happen? This scenario say a kid gets kidnapped, 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:58.760 everybody thinks he's dead, he disappears for months, but in actuality, 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.800 he's been taken prisoner to some kind of like central 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:05.080 sewer room where all the pipes connect, and he has 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:09.000 figured out which pipe to talk into to talk to 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.520 not his girlfriend but almost and his dad is like, 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.520 are you fucking get your fucking my head out of 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.160 your ass? Are you kidding me with this shit? What 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:20.240 the fuck is wrong with you? 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.040 Extremely real to me. This was like the story am 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.320 I Like. When I was a kid, I would always be. 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:27.320 Like, is this possible? 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:28.280 Could this happen? 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:28.879 I read this. 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.320 Scary book and my parents will like, please just shut 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:31.919 the fuck up. 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:33.760 I shut up, man. 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:37.520 And you know what I have to say, bad parenting a dad, 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:41.520 because in this specific situation, if you know about Derry 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:43.920 like we do, you should be listening to your kid. 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.480 But again, I think this is a great play on 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.280 the themes of the original book and also the horror 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.440 that we've been seeing this year, this twenty twenty five 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.800 year of horror with you know, adults not being good 0:19:57.800 --> 0:19:59.200 at tight taking care of kids. 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.960 It's a tradition horror trope. The police are always useless, 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:03.040 the parents are useless. 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.800 But this one I felt like was a great, really 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.640 hit time because also then he's like, stop fucking reading comics, 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:09.040 and I. 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.280 Was like, ah, stop, stopped a bit stuffed. 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.280 The thing I loved about this exchange was his dad 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:16.840 is like, stop with the comics, and then immediate smash 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:21.520 cut Teddy in bed reading comics correct and looking, looking 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:25.400 more at ease than anybody you could possibly imagine, absolutely 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:29.840 flipping through a detective comics. Now, his dad had mentioned 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:32.719 in that screen about stop reading comics that you know 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.320 we come from, you know, our people were almost exterminated. 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.520 We know horrors. I don't need to imagine these crazy 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.280 kids sewer horrors. What the fuck are you talking about? 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.800 They used to like the Nazis made lampshades out of 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.520 our skin, Like, okay, the real world is terrible. Maddie's 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:50.600 is trying to read, but his lamp keeps dying, and 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.960 when then it's finally turns on with this blaring light, 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:57.600 the lampshade is made out of what I assumed to 0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:01.199 be Maddie's face skin that is talking to him, and 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.280 it's talking to him so good, such a really good 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.560 jumps good one, really scary, very evil. 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:10.480 Dead coded looks a lot like the kind of necronomicon 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:13.840 Book of the Dead Faces. Yes, also, I am very 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:23.480 interested in this new kind of reframing of the skinned 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:28.399 murder kind of lamps and their connections back to Nazi Germany, 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:33.359 because obviously that was treated very grossly in Edgene Monster, 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:35.800 which we talked about on a previous episode, but I 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:38.840 was interested to see it come up again here, and 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:41.879 this I think works for a really good scare also 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:46.000 very real that when your parents tell you something like 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.600 that about your past, about your family, that then then 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:50.560 that becomes the thing you're. 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:51.000 Most scared of. 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:53.840 So I think again for me, the way that they 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:57.480 worked in kind of how a kid really has nightmares 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:00.040 and then added kind of the dairy. 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:04.640 Mystery of it all because I mean, pretty crazy. 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:07.080 Guys to say this, but this is a New IT 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.960 show with like a sink, not barely a single character 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.679 that you will know unless you deeply read the Stephen 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.119 King book. So I think that is also kind of 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:17.760