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Speaker 3: Because guess what it's gonna be on. But first, this
Speaker 3: episode today is only about it. Welcome to Darius, Andy
Speaker 3: and Barbara Maschetti Ratturn to Stephen King's dastardly Town with
Speaker 3: new kids and a new era fifties to sixties. I
Speaker 3: think by the time we hit the main kids were
Speaker 3: in the early sixties. We are let's just say we're
Speaker 3: excited about this show. So me and Jason are going
Speaker 3: to recap the episode. Then we will introduce our scream queens,
Speaker 3: Common and Joel to join us to discuss because this
Speaker 3: is more than just a Stephen King adaptation. This is
Speaker 3: Warner Brothers trying to launch a Stephen King connected universe,
Speaker 3: which is really interesting.
Speaker 1: Okay, Welcome to Darry the pilot episode, and folks, it's dry,
Speaker 1: you know what. You know what's going on. The kids
Speaker 1: are disappearing bad, they're ending up in the sewer. This
Speaker 1: shit's been going on for centuries up there in Maine,
Speaker 1: and it's going on now. We open at the cinema
Speaker 1: with a with a showing of the music Man, Rosie,
Speaker 1: are you the music a music man person?
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not necessarily a music man fan, you know, I
Speaker 3: like a like like a weirder. I like a bit
Speaker 3: of a weird one. But you know what I did
Speaker 3: learn from this episode, which is gonna make it everyone's shocked.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that the very famous Conan O'Brien monorail
Speaker 3: episode of The Simpsons is just him doing the music Man.
Speaker 3: I had like did not flock until this opening, so
Speaker 3: nice to see that.
Speaker 1: And The music Man itself is about a guy who
Speaker 1: comes to town to sell like band costumes and musical
Speaker 1: instruments to the town. Is like, I'm gonna teach you
Speaker 1: how to be a band. It's gonna be great. Every
Speaker 1: town needs a band, and I've got the instruments and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. And then as soon as he sells
Speaker 1: the stuff, he leaves and never teaches anybody to play anyway.
Speaker 1: We open at the cinema. It's the Music Man. There's
Speaker 1: a young man who we're gonna find out is named Maddie.
Speaker 1: He's watching The Music Man and he's, uh, he's got
Speaker 1: a pacifier in and he's you know, you can tell
Speaker 1: immediately he's too old to be here. But we're gonna
Speaker 1: discover that he's got a really fucked up home life.
Speaker 1: And as you know, the people around him are kind
Speaker 1: of saying. He gets chased out of the theater because
Speaker 1: he's snuck in to watch the Music Man, and Ronnie,
Speaker 1: the daughter of the theater owner, basically covers for him,
Speaker 1: sends the guy in the wrong direction so he can escape.
Speaker 1: He hitchhikes a ride out of town, gets in a
Speaker 1: car with a family dad, mom, teenage daughter, younger brother,
Speaker 1: and it very quickly gets weird. The teenage daughter's got
Speaker 1: like a container of liver juice, liver meat and liver juice,
Speaker 1: and she like dips her fingers in the liver juice
Speaker 1: and tries to get him to smell it. And then
Speaker 1: the mom's making all kinds of jokes about her daughter's promiscuity.
Speaker 1: It's really like what is going on? And then it
Speaker 1: turns into a fucking nightmare real quick, like scary faces
Speaker 1: and screaming and repeating or wrestling for the wheel. He's like,
Speaker 1: let me try, and like five, oh my god. Of
Speaker 1: course he can't do that because the dad is a
Speaker 1: grown man with demon strength. The mom then goes into
Speaker 1: labor and give labor of many. By the way, guys,
Speaker 1: this is a birth heavy show. Listen, folks, We're giving
Speaker 1: birth to demons in this show. She gives birth to
Speaker 1: a gross demon bat baby. It's disgusting, a lot of
Speaker 1: blood and juice the kids. Pacifire goes flying out into
Speaker 1: the river and floats down into the sewer when the
Speaker 1: baby attacks him, and then we cut and we flash
Speaker 1: forward to the present four months later, April eighteen. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: I wrote eighteen sixty two, as if it's the height
Speaker 1: of the Civil War. Nineteen sixty two. They're a little
Speaker 1: bit different. It's still not going great.
Speaker 4: He's going great, But yeah, I want this. I went
Speaker 4: into this with low expectations. I've talked on the show.
Speaker 4: I never like to yuck. Anyone's yum. I'm glad people
Speaker 4: love these.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have the scream Queen coming in those Andy
Speaker 3: Michet It movies were not particularly for me. But this
Speaker 3: opening is so scary and atmospheric and weird and good
Speaker 3: that I was just immediately hooked.
Speaker 1: I think the kids, the kids love horror, are gonna
Speaker 1: love this. We open, Okay, So it's April eight, nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty two. We are at Air Force Base Dairy. It's
Speaker 1: part of the US National Strategic Bomber Command, and two
Speaker 1: airmen are just arriving on the base. It's Major Handlan
Speaker 1: and Captain Russo, and they are buddies. And also Russo
Speaker 1: is like Handlan's aide de camp. It's like Handlan's going
Speaker 1: to be commanding a major bombing wing and Russo is
Speaker 1: like his main guy and his assistant. This base is
Speaker 1: home to like the bomber wing that's going to be
Speaker 1: like the first bomber wing into Moscow if the shit
Speaker 1: pops off. But Handlan is like, listen, I'm optimistic. I
Speaker 1: know it's nineteen sixty two and I'm a black major
Speaker 1: in the Air Force, but I am optimistic about America.
Speaker 1: I'm optimistic about the world, and I don't think there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a world war. I mean, I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all good, and nothing is gonna happen at Dairy.
Speaker 4: This is not a bad place.
Speaker 3: And there's definitely nothing dodgy about having a fos bace
Speaker 3: say that's connected to the Cold War. I couldn't see
Speaker 3: anyway that this goes wrong.
Speaker 1: This is and I haven't watched episode any episode. No,
Speaker 1: but I'm eager to go. Yeah, yeah, okay, But I
Speaker 1: just want to say, it seems to me as if
Speaker 1: this show is going to draw connection between the US
Speaker 1: military and Pennywise, and it was ready, I've forgot ready, Eddie.
Speaker 1: Come on. We open on Dairy High School. You know,
Speaker 1: it's your typical high school in the early sixties. We
Speaker 1: meet Lily, and Lily is bullied because I guess she's
Speaker 1: something of the class weirdo, and people make fun of her,
Speaker 1: they put stuff in her locker, et cetera. She's got
Speaker 1: a very very, very supportive best friend named Marge, who
Speaker 1: is worried about her glasses, that her glasses make her ugly.
Speaker 1: But they look nice. Glasses are great, they look nice.
Speaker 1: It's a typically they look nice. Yeah, it's a typical,
Speaker 1: kind of like a teenage small town situation. We meet Phil.
Speaker 1: Phil is obsessed with traffic going into the airbase. He
Speaker 1: can't help but notice the traffic is picked up lately,
Speaker 1: and he thinks this means World War three might be
Speaker 1: in the offing. We go to Hanlon and Russo they
Speaker 1: meet their men in the seventieth seventieth bomb wing, and
Speaker 1: it certainly appears that not everybody has Handlan's optimistic disposition
Speaker 1: about the future of America, because there's definitely some folks
Speaker 1: here who have problem taking orders from a black commanding officer.
Speaker 3: Definitely, And I want to say touching already on one
Speaker 3: of the things I think this pilot immediately does beat
Speaker 3: than the movies, which is the way that they look
Speaker 3: at race and I think it's really interesting.
Speaker 4: And we stop to get that touch with the Handland story.
Speaker 1: The one who is the most disrespectful, disobedient to his
Speaker 1: commanding officer about this particular issue is a airman named Masters,
Speaker 1: and Masters, you know, basically, Handlin approaches him in this
Speaker 1: moment and gives him like a free one. It's basically, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I get it, you don't like it, but I am
Speaker 1: your commanding officer, so like I'll forget that one. But
Speaker 1: you're gonna give me the respect I deserve. But before
Speaker 1: he can give him that pass, General Shaw the Great
Speaker 1: James Remar comes up and is and basically drops his
Speaker 1: fucking nuts on the ges. Listen, I am the general
Speaker 1: of this air base, okay, and if anybody is going
Speaker 1: to bring racial discrimination into my airbase, they're gonna get
Speaker 1: fucking marshaled. Okay, you're out of here racism, right, So
Speaker 1: do you have a problem? Do I have any kind
Speaker 1: of problems here? Air masters? And masters like very He
Speaker 1: doesn't want to, but he salutes the General then is like, hay,
Speaker 1: then come to my office later. Let's have a drink.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about it. Just stuff.
Speaker 1: We get to another scene with Phil and Teddy, the
Speaker 1: young friends. They're best friends. They're making a comic book together,
Speaker 1: which you love to see. Teddy is like the artist
Speaker 1: while Phil is like the Stanley of this.
Speaker 4: Definitely he's the talka yes.
Speaker 1: And it turns out that they were Phil, Teddy and Maddie,
Speaker 1: the kid who disappeared. They were all best friends together,
Speaker 1: and Teddy is like just torn up about it. It's
Speaker 1: only been four months, and he's like, what if he's alive?
Speaker 1: What if he ran away? Where is he? Phil is like, listen,
Speaker 1: it's dairy. Kids are disappearing all the time and they're
Speaker 1: probably dead, and I'm sad about it too, but let's
Speaker 1: just like move on from it. Teddy is clearly guilty
Speaker 1: in a way that says that they did something, and
Speaker 1: he blames himself for Maddie disappearing.
Speaker 3: It definitely feels like they're leaning into a little bit
Speaker 3: more of the complexity of being a kid. There's definitely
Speaker 3: some interesting stuff here around like friendship and guilt and popularity.
Speaker 3: And it's not just the classic like four kids going
Speaker 3: on an adventure like stand by Me or you know,
Speaker 3: the versions of it that we've seen.
Speaker 4: Post Stranger Things. So I really like that.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I was very intrigued immediately by this conversation
Speaker 3: and what they obviously were meant to go and meet
Speaker 3: Matty but they didn't go. I think is kind of
Speaker 3: the vibe like they'd said they would meet him, but
Speaker 3: they didn't end up going, and they have guilt around.
Speaker 1: It something, or they were mean to him in some
Speaker 1: kind of way that forced him out. I do. I
Speaker 1: found the writing around the kids.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: The thing is like when you when you very often
Speaker 1: when you have a story that involves like high school
Speaker 1: middle school kids, it's hard to toe that line between
Speaker 1: like the emotional rawness that like kids have, yeah, and
Speaker 1: the feeling of like existential everyday dread of just going
Speaker 1: to school, and but also like balancing that with not
Speaker 1: making them to adult introspective, like too mature. And I
Speaker 1: think they really toe the line well here.
Speaker 3: I also think the kids are so young looking like
Speaker 3: this is very different to what we usually see this
Speaker 3: kind of you know, kids in high school who look
Speaker 3: like that twenty seven or who are twenty seven, And
Speaker 3: they did a great job of making these kids look
Speaker 3: like that's twelve, like you believe it.
Speaker 1: It's a great point because I was actually wondering, and
Speaker 1: I think this is more about shows usually casting teenagers
Speaker 1: who are in real life like twenty eight nine.
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: I was actually wondering. Yeah, I was actually wondering whether
Speaker 1: it was middle school for a second, but it is
Speaker 1: high school. Okay. So we go to Lily. Lily is
Speaker 1: practicing smiling in the mirror because she's insecure, but also
Speaker 1: I think she wants to remember what it was like
Speaker 1: to smile again. She's having a tough time of it.
Speaker 1: She's remembering a night when Maddie took her to the
Speaker 1: trio of Boy's Secret Boy Hangout, which you know with
Speaker 1: Phil and Teddy, and they had this wonderful moment where
Speaker 1: you know, Lily is she's called Lily the Looney by
Speaker 1: her bullies, and it turns out her dad was mangled
Speaker 1: in a terrible industrial life. I think that Lily blames
Speaker 1: herself for is horredous. You want to talk about low
Speaker 1: bars for being a nice guy and a decent kid.
Speaker 1: Maddie clears that bar easily by assuring her it was
Speaker 1: not your fault that your dad.
Speaker 3: More people need to be telling this child it was
Speaker 3: not your God.
Speaker 1: He then he gets caught up in the moment and
Speaker 1: I get it there he could you know. He's talking
Speaker 1: to her, he's looking in her eyes, she's crying. He's
Speaker 1: telling her like, it wasn't your dad's fault. It wasn't
Speaker 1: your fault your dad died. And he goes for he
Speaker 1: kind of like leans in for the kiss, and she's
Speaker 1: like whoa, and she's just kind of like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Wait what.
Speaker 1: And then Maddie is like, Okay, that was a mistake.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm going to leave now, don't tell Phil
Speaker 1: and Teddy that I took you to the Secret Boys hangout.
Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm going to go home. And he
Speaker 1: goes off into the night, never to be seen again
Speaker 1: to return. He's gone. Lily uh Is comes out of
Speaker 1: this reverie when her mom comes up and is like,
Speaker 1: you were going to your dad's grave tomorrow, so remember that,
Speaker 1: and we're going And she's like, well, I don't want
Speaker 1: to go, Like it's can we just I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get past this. Also that she's on meds to go.
Speaker 4: Through the grave right now. I feel like this kid
Speaker 4: is dealing with this every day, Like, let her go
Speaker 4: in her own time.
Speaker 3: She's very aware her dad was crushed in the literal
Speaker 3: geas of capitalism.
Speaker 1: That's right. And so her mom leaves and Lily's in
Speaker 1: the bathroom and she hears like, coming out of the drain,
Speaker 1: what's that it's that sounds like the music man? Is
Speaker 1: that the music man? It's Maddie. That's the distinctive voice
Speaker 1: of young Maddie coming from the drain. He's down in
Speaker 1: the sewer and Lily's like, what's going.
Speaker 2: On down there? Maddie?
Speaker 3: Is that you?
Speaker 1: And Maddie goes, he's got made down here.
Speaker 3: We we'll let it go.
Speaker 1: Let his little bloody fingers. Two of his fingers pop
Speaker 1: out of the drain, and Lily is scared and grossed out.
Speaker 1: Lily goes and tells Marge, best friend Marge the next
Speaker 1: day at school and Marge and I don't Faulter for
Speaker 1: this at all. Marge is like, Lily, don't tell people
Speaker 1: that tell she's trying to help you. Yeah, because that's
Speaker 1: fucking banana. That's the nuts. That story's nuts. And you've already,
Speaker 1: through no fault of your own, have this school reputation
Speaker 1: as Lily the looney and that's not right. But don't
Speaker 1: give people more ammo, and tell people this. And of
Speaker 1: course Lily takes this like you're not I thought you
Speaker 1: were my friend. And it seems like they might break
Speaker 1: up as friends now, which is very very sad, and
Speaker 1: you can see both sides of it.
Speaker 4: Phil very sad.
Speaker 1: We learn obsessed with seeing titties. He wants to see breasts,
Speaker 1: he wants to see bears.
Speaker 4: He loves boobs.
Speaker 1: This he got to see him.
Speaker 4: He's like he's in pookies.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely like just staring into windows. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: if it goes much further than this, Phil, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be worried. But we have to remember this is an
Speaker 1: age in which, uh, a young man who want to
Speaker 1: see boobs could see him. You're not seeing him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No. Internet also very good way to see it, Arrah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has always been about repression and childhood coming
Speaker 3: of age, so that makes sense.
Speaker 4: But it is funny.
Speaker 3: I loved when I was looking through you all recap
Speaker 3: and I was like, glad you mentioned that he is
Speaker 3: fucking obsessed with boobs, because this kid is like, it's
Speaker 3: a problem.
Speaker 1: It's almost too much. Yeah, Like, this is a kid
Speaker 1: who is like he's he's one step away from like
Speaker 1: drawing tits in the dirt with a stick and staring
Speaker 1: at exactly like, yeah, come on, guys. So Lily approaches
Speaker 1: Phil and Teddy at the clubhouse and tells them the story,
Speaker 1: and Teddy takes it. Teddy is inclined to take it seriously.
Speaker 1: Teddy's like very wait, you said you heard his voice
Speaker 1: coming in and the s were very very interesting. Phil
Speaker 1: is like, come on, let's go through all the ways
Speaker 1: that this could not possibly happen. But of course he
Speaker 1: doesn't understand the history of Derry and the way we do.
Speaker 1: Teddy's like, come on, wait, hold on, you're the stan Lee,
Speaker 1: You're the fucking sci fi fantasy guy. Come on, like
Speaker 1: you're coming up with all these incredible scenarios all the time,
Speaker 1: and you don't believe that, like Maddie could have been
Speaker 1: taken by some kind of like evil force and kept
Speaker 1: prisoner in the sewer where he's talking to us through
Speaker 1: the drain pipe. But then Teddy is like, you know, actually,
Speaker 1: when I hear myself say it, I have to say that,
Speaker 1: it's it's far fetched.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm not I can't go there with you, Lily
Speaker 1: Lily Stocks. We go to the air Force base. The
Speaker 1: General and Handlan are having that little drink and he's like, listen,
Speaker 1: guess what, your buddy masters, I put him on latrines
Speaker 1: for like the next month, so he's cleaning your Make
Speaker 1: sure to fucking drink five cups of coffee, have some oatmeal,
Speaker 1: and then take a big wet dump and then I'll
Speaker 1: send him in there to fucking clean that up. How
Speaker 1: about that Handland Apparently an ace pilot he was he
Speaker 1: earned his wings in Korea, where he was doing all
Speaker 1: types of action movie type stuff and when he talks
Speaker 1: about Korea. When when the general talks about Korea, Handlan
Speaker 1: is like, I don't like talking about Korea. Handlin's and
Speaker 1: the generally why and He's like, because we didn't fucking
Speaker 1: win on some Michael Jordan shit.
Speaker 3: Wow, all right, undefeated warrior whoa okay think about that one.
Speaker 1: Handlan is apparently on base because there's a brand new
Speaker 1: Bee fifty two bomber with all the bells and whistles,
Speaker 1: and Handlan is just the guy to test it out.
Speaker 1: We go to Teddy's family house, Teddy's Jewish, at dinner,
Speaker 1: his dad's prayer and then they're, you know, passing food
Speaker 1: around and Teddy is like, Dad, let me ask you
Speaker 1: a question. You're a man of the world. Is it
Speaker 1: possible could this happen? This scenario say a kid gets kidnapped,
Speaker 1: everybody thinks he's dead, he disappears for months, but in actuality,
Speaker 1: he's been taken prisoner to some kind of like central
Speaker 1: sewer room where all the pipes connect, and he has
Speaker 1: figured out which pipe to talk into to talk to
Speaker 1: not his girlfriend but almost and his dad is like,
Speaker 1: are you fucking get your fucking my head out of
Speaker 1: your ass? Are you kidding me with this shit? What
Speaker 1: the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 3: Extremely real to me. This was like the story am
Speaker 3: I Like. When I was a kid, I would always be.
Speaker 4: Like, is this possible?
Speaker 3: Could this happen?
Speaker 2: I read this.
Speaker 3: Scary book and my parents will like, please just shut
Speaker 3: the fuck up.
Speaker 1: I shut up, man.
Speaker 3: And you know what I have to say, bad parenting a dad,
Speaker 3: because in this specific situation, if you know about Derry
Speaker 3: like we do, you should be listening to your kid.
Speaker 3: But again, I think this is a great play on
Speaker 3: the themes of the original book and also the horror
Speaker 3: that we've been seeing this year, this twenty twenty five
Speaker 3: year of horror with you know, adults not being good
Speaker 3: at tight taking care of kids.
Speaker 4: It's a tradition horror trope. The police are always useless,
Speaker 4: the parents are useless.
Speaker 3: But this one I felt like was a great, really
Speaker 3: hit time because also then he's like, stop fucking reading comics,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 4: Was like, ah, stop, stopped a bit stuffed.
Speaker 1: The thing I loved about this exchange was his dad
Speaker 1: is like, stop with the comics, and then immediate smash
Speaker 1: cut Teddy in bed reading comics correct and looking, looking
Speaker 1: more at ease than anybody you could possibly imagine, absolutely
Speaker 1: flipping through a detective comics. Now, his dad had mentioned
Speaker 1: in that screen about stop reading comics that you know
Speaker 1: we come from, you know, our people were almost exterminated.
Speaker 1: We know horrors. I don't need to imagine these crazy
Speaker 1: kids sewer horrors. What the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1: They used to like the Nazis made lampshades out of
Speaker 1: our skin, Like, okay, the real world is terrible. Maddie's
Speaker 1: is trying to read, but his lamp keeps dying, and
Speaker 1: when then it's finally turns on with this blaring light,
Speaker 1: the lampshade is made out of what I assumed to
Speaker 1: be Maddie's face skin that is talking to him, and
Speaker 1: it's talking to him so good, such a really good
Speaker 1: jumps good one, really scary, very evil.
Speaker 3: Dead coded looks a lot like the kind of necronomicon
Speaker 3: Book of the Dead Faces. Yes, also, I am very
Speaker 3: interested in this new kind of reframing of the skinned
Speaker 3: murder kind of lamps and their connections back to Nazi Germany,
Speaker 3: because obviously that was treated very grossly in Edgene Monster,
Speaker 3: which we talked about on a previous episode, but I
Speaker 3: was interested to see it come up again here, and
Speaker 3: this I think works for a really good scare also
Speaker 3: very real that when your parents tell you something like
Speaker 3: that about your past, about your family, that then then
Speaker 3: that becomes the thing you're.
Speaker 4: Most scared of.
Speaker 3: So I think again for me, the way that they
Speaker 3: worked in kind of how a kid really has nightmares
Speaker 3: and then added kind of the dairy.
Speaker 4: Mystery of it all because I mean, pretty crazy.
Speaker 3: Guys to say this, but this is a New IT
Speaker 3: show with like a sink, not barely a single character
Speaker 3: that you will know unless you deeply read the Stephen
Speaker 3: King book. So I think that is also kind of
Speaker 3: a brave gambit. But the kids stuff sells it to me.
Speaker 1: It really does. You know what this reminds me of
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, we uh me and my
Speaker 1: friends we learned about like the whole playing records backwards thing.
Speaker 1: Oh so we got we got a copy of led
Speaker 1: Zeppelin four and we were playing steroids. Heaven backwards is
Speaker 1: trying to hear the like my sweet Satan or whatever
Speaker 1: he's supposed to say. Yeah, and clearly my mom or
Speaker 1: stepdad or someone was waiting for the moment because as
Speaker 1: we were doing it, they shut off the lights in
Speaker 1: my room. There's a light so that my room was
Speaker 1: like formerly the garage but they had remade it, but
Speaker 1: still the lights which was on the outside. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it was the scariest moment. I was like, was like
Speaker 1: like never again.
Speaker 3: And for girls, it's definitely weed your boards and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 1: So Teddy's story about the lamp, Phil is in and
Speaker 1: it feels like, you know what, I buy it?
Speaker 4: Now two crazy stories I'm in.
Speaker 1: So now it's Teddy, Phil and Lily and this trio
Speaker 1: sets off to figure out, like what the fuck is
Speaker 1: going on. They go to the library, Lily pulls up
Speaker 1: the newspaper story about Maddie's disappearance, and they realize that Ronnie,
Speaker 1: the daughter of the movie theater owner, was the last
Speaker 1: person to see Maddie, so they go to see her.
Speaker 1: Ronnie is like, listen that whole fucking thing. The cops
Speaker 1: tried to pin it Maddie's disappearance on my dad. Guess why?
Speaker 1: And oh, did I know Ronnie is black and her
Speaker 1: dad is black? You haven't.
Speaker 3: And this is a very clearly trying to pin it
Speaker 3: on this matter and also it was clear that Mattie
Speaker 3: and Ronnie were chill, and it seemed like it seemed
Speaker 3: like Ronnie's dad was also kind of kind to Matty.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's an outside of space the cinema
Speaker 3: and the police immediately look there.
Speaker 1: So Ronnie's like, get the fuck out of here. I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about Maddie, Like this whole thing
Speaker 1: has been a real stressor for my family, and just
Speaker 1: get out of here. And so they're leaving. But as
Speaker 1: they're leaving, Phil is like I told you she wouldn't
Speaker 1: believe it about the sewers, and Ronnie's who wha, wha
Speaker 1: who what would you say? Sewers? And Ronnie is like,
Speaker 1: hold up, sewers, I'm hearing stuff in the sewers too.
Speaker 1: Bomb bomb bomb on the base. That night after the meeting,
Speaker 1: Hanlan is attacked by several maskmen and lest you think
Speaker 1: this is purely a racial incident, they want They're like,
Speaker 1: give us the intel about the new B fifty two bomber.
Speaker 1: What okay? So something very interesting going on. Hanlan is like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna need to pull that tra your hoss if
Speaker 1: you want that, you want, you need to shoot me
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna give you the intel. So Russo
Speaker 1: comes kool aid through the breaks down the door and
Speaker 1: they have this scrap with these masked men and they
Speaker 1: fight them off, and then the mask men run off
Speaker 1: of Tonight, and then Handlin and Russo sit there and
Speaker 1: basically pat each other on the back while these men
Speaker 1: are running through the base. Shouldn't you go alert like
Speaker 1: the base security and be like, hey, there's masked men
Speaker 1: on the base looking for info about the B fifty
Speaker 1: two bomber.
Speaker 3: My theory is that there is more going on at
Speaker 3: the base than just the ball master. There's a reason
Speaker 3: these two don't want to be talking, because otherwise, why
Speaker 3: is that not the first thing you do? Also, I
Speaker 3: guess we should mention that I think that's really interesting
Speaker 3: for them to center a black family and have Jovanna
Speaker 3: Deppo from Overlord come in as.
Speaker 4: Leroy Handlin and then have a new mic.
Speaker 3: We also get Taylor Page as Mike's mom, and I
Speaker 3: think this is a time to kind of course correct
Speaker 3: post Mike being written out of it, and this focuses
Speaker 3: more on kind of oh my god, Mike leading into
Speaker 3: what he would be in the interludes as an adult.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm very excited and I love these characters
Speaker 3: so far.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's still crazy to me that you're go chase
Speaker 1: these guys or go find the MP's and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That was weird anyway. So the kids
Speaker 1: learned from Ronnie that the song that Maddie was because like,
Speaker 1: you know, Lily sings a little bit of it, and
Speaker 1: Ronnie's like, oh, that's from the that's from the music Man.
Speaker 1: So let's go see the music Man. I have the
Speaker 1: real at the theater and she strings up the she
Speaker 1: puts the film on. They're watching it in the empty theater,
Speaker 1: the kids, and they're like, you know, just looking for clues,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they're like, wait a second.
Speaker 1: In the crowd is like the music Man is happening,
Speaker 1: and he's like dancing around, you know, talking to the townsfolks.
Speaker 1: They look and like the Purple Rose of Cairo type situation.
Speaker 1: They see Maddie in the film. Maddie's in the body.
Speaker 4: It's he's gone.
Speaker 1: He's got like a bundle, like a little baby in
Speaker 1: his arms, and it was like very very creepy and
Speaker 1: well done. And they're just like Maddie come out witches coded.
Speaker 3: Do you remember how I'm the original Waldal, which is
Speaker 3: like the girl got trapped in the pain thing. This
Speaker 3: was really giving that and his friends are talking to him,
Speaker 3: and it seems like he's able to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like in my work. They're like, man's crown, Yeah,
Speaker 1: walk towards whatever, Walk towards our voye that who knows
Speaker 1: what Maddie sees inside the screen. But they're like, come here.
Speaker 1: They're trying to get him outside the screen, but Maddie
Speaker 1: when he gets closer to the screen is basically like,
Speaker 1: now it's too late. I'm trapped in here. And then
Speaker 1: he throws the baby through the screen and it's the
Speaker 1: demon baby, and the demon baby fucking goes ape shit
Speaker 1: inside this fucking movie theater. It kills, it smashes Teddy's head.
Speaker 1: I think Teddy's done.
Speaker 4: Eddy's gone.
Speaker 1: Teddy's gone. Ronnie very bravely comes down from the projectionist
Speaker 1: booth with a hammer to defend her. She's not even
Speaker 1: close with them.
Speaker 4: This is classic. Do you remember that tweet?
Speaker 3: I should. This is an eternal in my phone reaction meme,
Speaker 3: so I should remember who wrote it. But sorry to
Speaker 3: this uncredited non Twitter account. You are amazing. This is
Speaker 3: a great meme, but it basically is the one where
Speaker 3: it's like me, if me and my friends had seen ET,
Speaker 3: We're killing that motherfucker with hammers, you know, like that's
Speaker 3: Ronnie is Like, Ronnie's like, okay, we'd demon baby. I'm
Speaker 3: getting the hammer, I'm going down and I'm fucking taking it.
Speaker 1: But she's a real one for brutal guys.
Speaker 4: Like all kids getting killed in a movie theater.
Speaker 3: This is a crazy final set piece, and I think
Speaker 3: it establishes who our.
Speaker 4: Real leads are gonna be, which I think is really interesting.
Speaker 1: So again, Lily goes Ronnie goes down there with the hammer,
Speaker 1: very very very courageous thing to do. She finds that
Speaker 1: the demon Baby is gone, Phil Teddy, Phil's sister Susie,
Speaker 1: poor little Susie, who shouldn't even have been there, are
Speaker 1: probably all dead. And she finds Lily covered in blood,
Speaker 1: and Lily in shock, looks down and she's holding Susie's
Speaker 1: severed hat. Folks, it was it was a shocker moment.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed this pilot.
Speaker 4: I think it's so good.
Speaker 1: It's really fun. Let's take a quick break and bring
Speaker 1: in the screen Queens and talk more about and we're back.
Speaker 1: Please welcome now to the to the Dairy Movie Theater,
Speaker 1: Blood Soak Darry Movie Theater, To talk Now, episode one
Speaker 1: of Welcome to Jerry the Screen Queens, Barman and Joel.
Speaker 1: How are you, ladies, and your thoughts on this pilot episode?
Speaker 2: Holy shit, I'll watched this silent in Rosie's bed and
Speaker 2: we were just freaking We were like.
Speaker 4: We were so freaked out.
Speaker 1: We were just laying there like, oh my god, Like
Speaker 1: it was so funny.
Speaker 3: It was unintentional. We were doing a different Halloween marathon.
Speaker 3: We were watching over the garden.
Speaker 4: Wall, and yeah, me and Joel were just blown away.
Speaker 3: Like, I did not expect to have so much style panache.
Speaker 3: I find those IT movies to be very bleak. This
Speaker 3: this had a little bit more of that Stephen King
Speaker 3: kids kind of fighting together.
Speaker 4: That I love.
Speaker 3: But Joel, what about your reading on this first episode?
Speaker 2: Man? I was really blown away, And there's just so
Speaker 2: much for us to talk about. But I think from
Speaker 2: a broad scope, right, Like, so, not only is the
Speaker 2: pilot good, but the premise for the show is good.
Speaker 2: And by that I mean Eddie whi Eddie was like,
Speaker 2: oh damn, I really love making these movies. They're so
Speaker 2: much fun. There's all these preludes in the books. Can't
Speaker 2: do those in the movie. We gotta streamline it. What
Speaker 2: have I made an entire TV series justly you get
Speaker 2: the preludes from the books. And also, what if I
Speaker 2: did it backwards? So each of your season is going
Speaker 2: to take us like twenty seven years into the past,
Speaker 2: twenty seven years further back in order to like unravel
Speaker 2: the mystery of like how did it become penny Wise?
Speaker 2: Are you joking?
Speaker 5: I was gray?
Speaker 2: And then to encase it all in a Stephen King
Speaker 2: universe where you're getting major characters and locations from classic
Speaker 2: Stephen King books. I was like, this is so delicious.
Speaker 2: Immediately I was like, we have to be covering this,
Speaker 2: like I'm never're gonna do week to week or somebody regularly,
Speaker 2: but like, I want to be checking in on the show.
Speaker 2: I'm curious with the thing. I think the cast is outstanding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I did read some folks were.
Speaker 2: Upset with the scares, But what really impressed me is
Speaker 2: like Andy and Barbara, so there, it doesn't live to
Speaker 2: the movie. It does not scary to know they're wrong.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why
Speaker 2: they're wrong. Let me tell you whether, yeah not, only
Speaker 2: is it actually genuinely terrifying? I know not maybe not
Speaker 2: everybody's into like the bat that's been transformed by nuclear
Speaker 2: power or whatever. I liked it. It worked for me.
Speaker 2: I thought the car scene was really scary. I think
Speaker 2: all of the kids' performances really lean into the like
Speaker 2: suspense and tear. The lamp shade will get there. But
Speaker 2: holy crap. But Barbara and Andy have only done movies, and
Speaker 2: it's really hard to transition from thinking about the very
Speaker 2: streamline process of telling a film story versus the long,
Speaker 2: drawn out, really difficult process of making a television show.
Speaker 2: They look different structurally, and not everyone's able to adjust.
Speaker 4: I think the.
Speaker 2: Amount of scares, the fact that we don't get Penny
Speaker 2: Wise in the pilot, all of that. Really, I think
Speaker 2: are strong, smart television making great decisions, and if they
Speaker 2: can pull this off on the pilot, I know Andy
Speaker 2: directs a couple more episodes throughout. I'm really excited about
Speaker 2: the whole series. I loved it. Carmen, what did you think? Oh?
Speaker 5: I was so hyped for this series. I mean opening
Speaker 5: up with that childbirth scene absolutely.
Speaker 2: In the car so visceral. She's not like the underwear
Speaker 2: on and everything.
Speaker 5: You're like, oh no, and we feel safe. We feel safe, like, oh,
Speaker 5: this family's gonna take care of him, and then you
Speaker 5: start to realize, wait a minute, there's somebody yeah, and
Speaker 5: then I I do appreciate that that we did not
Speaker 5: get to see penny Wise in the first episode. I
Speaker 5: half expected that that baby was going to pop out
Speaker 5: and it was going to be penny Wise any I.
Speaker 4: Did we did think.
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm glad they didn't do that, though,
Speaker 5: because I'm still I know that when we do see
Speaker 5: penny Wise for the first time, we are going to
Speaker 5: be shocked and amazed. But no, I thought it was effective.
Speaker 5: Just even hearing Jason go through the recap, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 5: that all happened in that first time, and it.
Speaker 3: It feels really breezy when you watch it, like it
Speaker 3: feels like it works. Something I loved common I wonder
Speaker 3: if you could speak to is just like a lot
Speaker 3: of weird horror vibes and references and just like feeling
Speaker 3: like the opening in the car feels completely different to
Speaker 3: any kind of Stephen King thing we've seen. But if
Speaker 3: you've watched trapped, like if you've watched weird cult movies
Speaker 3: where people are trapped in their car, or that, you know,
Speaker 3: the What's dead End, the one where they just trapped
Speaker 3: on the loop, it was giving a lot of feelings.
Speaker 3: So as a horror lover, what were you feeling from that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it reminded me. I felt like I was watching
Speaker 5: like it had done like Nightmare on Elm Street. I
Speaker 5: was like, we're doing like Nightmare on Elm Street level,
Speaker 5: like horror vignettes that are really like elaborate and thought out,
Speaker 5: like that lamp scene. You know, that lamp scene went
Speaker 5: on for like I feel like watching it felt like
Speaker 5: five minutes, you know, but of course it was.
Speaker 2: That's actually the shortest scared, but it's how funny, it's
Speaker 2: so terrifying. About maybe a minute a minute and a half.
Speaker 2: Where is the like opening car scene is I think
Speaker 2: like seven and the final movie scene is roughly the same.
Speaker 2: It's fast, but it's so scary.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and especially when it rolls around and screams in
Speaker 5: his space, it really sticks with you so much. Said that,
Speaker 5: I had forgotten that the Cinema was at the end
Speaker 5: of this episode because it's so much happening, and yeah,
Speaker 5: I just love I feel like, you know, we're I mean, shit,
Speaker 5: we all they killed off all these kids we were
Speaker 5: meant to care about in the first episode, and so
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, it's we're doing something really bold here.
Speaker 5: It feels almost like Game of Thrones for like horror people.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Now who was watched beyond episode one.
Speaker 2: A little bit of episode two, but not too much.
Speaker 5: I've seen episode two.
Speaker 1: It seems to me from episode one, you know it,
Speaker 1: you know, just give me yours that what we're going
Speaker 1: to find out is that the US military has tried
Speaker 1: to weaponize pennywise what we're going to find out because
Speaker 1: what it feels because I write what I what I
Speaker 1: love about what I think is really interesting about the
Speaker 1: way this, at least through the pilot, the way this
Speaker 1: show is set up and how it works is like
Speaker 1: there's almost in terms of like how the horror works
Speaker 1: in the world, it's like kind of nothing. The kids
Speaker 1: are disappearing. It's like you could actually be confused that
Speaker 1: you're not watching it or a reboot of it, like
Speaker 1: because it is basically what happens. But what they've added
Speaker 1: is these other textures of like the military conspiracy and
Speaker 1: uh and the goings on with the adults in town,
Speaker 1: and it really feels like there there's going to be
Speaker 1: a much larger conspiracy and it's not just going to
Speaker 1: be about this ancient fucking demon that's been in this
Speaker 1: area since you know, the indigenous Native Americans. Time, it's
Speaker 1: going to be some other kind of military conspiracy. And
Speaker 1: if that's the case, it's so crazy that I'm here
Speaker 1: for it's.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, let me read two and yes. So
Speaker 2: Andy says, it was very exciting to explore what the
Speaker 2: sixties were in America and what fear was and what
Speaker 2: kids were afraid of. It was the Cold War and
Speaker 2: kids in school were performing drills in case of a
Speaker 2: nuclear explosion. You can't imagine the state of paranoia. People
Speaker 2: were asking, is there going to be a nuclear explosion tomorrow?
Speaker 2: What are we going to do? Will there be people
Speaker 2: with birth defects? It was very exciting to think of
Speaker 2: those ripples. Then, at the premiere of the show, he
Speaker 2: was talking about growing up in Buenos Aires and living
Speaker 2: under a dictatorship, and he had this to say when
Speaker 2: Stephen King wrote it, he was writing a masterpiece of
Speaker 2: horror and a coming of age story, but it was
Speaker 2: also a parable of fear mongering and weaponizing a fear
Speaker 2: in the real world. The metaphor about fear mongering was
Speaker 2: very relevant when he wrote it, but somehow it seems
Speaker 2: much more relevant in the days that we're living now.
Speaker 2: So that's why I like to consider the show as
Speaker 2: a reminder of that if you believe in empathy and love,
Speaker 2: we can keep together and stand up against violence and
Speaker 2: intimidation and cruelty from these fucking clowns are bestowing upon us.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 3: This also makes so much sense because I was I'm
Speaker 3: a big Mike Canlan fan from the original, especially the
Speaker 3: nineties TV show version the mini series, and correctly so
Speaker 3: in the first not a lot of Mike in the
Speaker 3: first IT movie, by Machete's second one does bring adult
Speaker 3: Mike him, but not like crazily, not how much of
Speaker 3: a big part he really is in the interludes of
Speaker 3: the book.
Speaker 4: So to have adult.
Speaker 3: Mike Canlan here as your adult in character, I think
Speaker 3: is so clever and I want to know more about it,
Speaker 3: and I want to I want to see them tell
Speaker 3: this story in a way that is both relevant to
Speaker 3: the American time that it's set in, but also like
Speaker 3: imagine some bigger and I think that is here what
Speaker 3: appeals to me so much is like there is a
Speaker 3: world outside of Derry that is influencing Derry, and there
Speaker 3: are politics, and there are conversations. But a lot of
Speaker 3: times I feel like when people set a show in
Speaker 3: the past, they use it as an excuse to not
Speaker 3: cast people of.
Speaker 4: Color, and I feel like it's very and exactly thanks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, Robert, there were there were vikings, there
Speaker 3: were other colors, my friend. But but I think here
Speaker 3: this actually like surprised me by how much it establishes
Speaker 3: that it might explore that. And we know from the
Speaker 3: trailers put your ear muffs on if you don't want
Speaker 3: to hear a spoiler for the rest of the show spoiler.
Speaker 4: Air muffs on.
Speaker 3: We know that we will also get to meet the
Speaker 3: character who is a psychic from Shining from the Shining Right.
Speaker 4: We are going to be in the show. We see
Speaker 4: him briefly, and if you know in The Shining Law
Speaker 4: he is a psychic.
Speaker 3: So my reading on this and I do watch a
Speaker 3: lot of anime about espers and esp and that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. But I feel like this is going to
Speaker 3: be about America's exploration of the paranormal, of how they
Speaker 3: can weaponize people who have sensitivities, and I think that,
Speaker 3: you know, we've seen.
Speaker 4: It in such fun Ghostbusters.
Speaker 3: You know, I think about that a lot, but I
Speaker 3: don't remember a really great exploration of Americanized exploration into
Speaker 3: the paranormal and the occult for military purposes, even though
Speaker 3: we know, for example, the Nazis loved occult sciences and magic,
Speaker 3: and so I'm really interested in that aspect and I
Speaker 3: loved it call Around. He didn't get the ending he
Speaker 3: deserved in the Shining, but it's been great to see
Speaker 3: him come back and other stuff like Doctor Sleep. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm just very excited. I think this is great. Jason,
Speaker 3: this is a Stephen King heavy show. Did you notice
Speaker 3: any other Steve King moments or.
Speaker 4: Will it should checking out.
Speaker 1: Nothing that we didn't pick up on.
Speaker 4: In the trim.
Speaker 1: You know, for instance, that the Shank Boss stuff like that,
Speaker 1: But I'm eager to to to check on more of that.
Speaker 1: You know, I think one of my most favorite Stephen
Speaker 1: King reading moments was the moment that I realized that
Speaker 1: the bad guy from the stand Flag was uh, was
Speaker 1: the bad guy in like the gun Slinger stuff and
Speaker 1: in The Tower and in different other Stephen King things.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm eager to see if he threads that
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 4: I want to know that to the question.
Speaker 3: They have been trying to make an interconnected Stephen King
Speaker 3: universe for many years.
Speaker 4: Guess what, Stephen King already made it. It's in the book.
Speaker 4: But we've seen Castle Rock where we had like.
Speaker 3: Lizzie Kaplan playing the iconic Kathy Bates role from Miseries,
Speaker 3: and so there has been investment in these kind of stories.
Speaker 4: But I think they.
Speaker 3: Were more in that mceu esque era of how do
Speaker 3: we connect everything? Not necessarily story first, which obviously knows
Speaker 3: why the MCU was so popular because they did go.
Speaker 4: Story first in Phase one.
Speaker 3: I think those were more of a representation of that.
Speaker 3: I also have seen multiple different cuts of the Dark
Speaker 3: Tower movie. I saw one many years ago at an
Speaker 3: early screening before I was a journalist. That was a
Speaker 3: test screening that was two and a half hours long
Speaker 3: and actually pretty incredible and did a great job of
Speaker 3: weaving all of that together. The final version was ninety
Speaker 3: minutes long, mostly set in New York, so there has
Speaker 3: been a struggle to do this. But this episode and
Speaker 3: the little hints that is very well done to me,
Speaker 3: and I love the characters they're focusing on. I love
Speaker 3: that this is maybe a little bit of a course
Speaker 3: correction from Stephen King's own representations of race and sex.
Speaker 2: Can we move over and talk about that.
Speaker 4: Let's do that as our final conversation point, because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the character of Leroy is really intriguing to me.
Speaker 2: The soldier prittally, a black soldier in the sixties who's
Speaker 2: so pro America at that time, is really intriguing. I
Speaker 2: think the line there's nothing wrong with this country that
Speaker 2: can be fixed by what's right with this country is
Speaker 2: a very fun opening because you're just like, oh, brother,
Speaker 2: you're about to get bit to be.
Speaker 1: This guys after the.
Speaker 2: Very the Korean War, he's like, I can't even talk
Speaker 2: about Korea. It's interesting to hear him, you know when
Speaker 2: we when we think about black soldiers in World War
Speaker 2: Two and they're instance from being in Europe to coming
Speaker 2: back home and how they were treated. I wanted to
Speaker 2: make a very quick comment on you, you know, you guys
Speaker 2: were talking earlier about like, you know, why wouldn't this
Speaker 2: character Leroy like run and tell security given his earlier
Speaker 2: interaction where the guy didn't want to salute him. My
Speaker 2: thought was like, Oh, this is hazing. This is trying
Speaker 2: to see if I would break under being krilled like
Speaker 2: this like that. These are American like regul like there's
Speaker 2: not an accent here the I'm being hazed or abused,
Speaker 2: I mean really just being abused as a black eye
Speaker 2: in charge. And I think he was like, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to rap. I'll figure this out separately. Perhaps that
Speaker 2: was my takeaway. And and with all of that and
Speaker 2: the fact that there are so many black characters in
Speaker 2: this show, I'm really excited we'll also have indigenous characters
Speaker 2: being featured later. There's nine episodes in this season.
Speaker 4: I'm interested to see where that's gonna go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm really hoping, you know, Stephen King has
Speaker 2: done the indigenous popular He's pretty dirty, with a lot
Speaker 2: of like haunted. So I think if you're going to
Speaker 2: try to create a Stephen King universe, uh, starting here
Speaker 2: by sort of cleaning up the slate, really getting some
Speaker 2: of this like way backstory established early. That's really exciting
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very I think that that's a great cool
Speaker 3: and I'm very excited to see jove On playing Leroy
Speaker 3: and getting a new Mike Camlin who hopefully is gonna
Speaker 3: and it seems like from this episode is going to
Speaker 3: be one of the mates.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I want to get that. I want to see him
Speaker 3: get that story. He is the historian, he is the
Speaker 3: hat of the kids, and I think this is so
Speaker 3: I'm just really excited about it.
Speaker 1: I think it's so so week. It feels so Phil
Speaker 1: and Teddy not dead, right, They're just in the sewer problem.
Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't think about that. I was considering okay
Speaker 4: with dead, but I like they could be in the sewers.
Speaker 1: The casting is too good too, was too good. I
Speaker 1: feel like it would it would be audacious and really
Speaker 1: cool if they were dead. That I agree.
Speaker 2: Baby assisted though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, they showed the hand she got.
Speaker 2: I wouldst one.
Speaker 3: It could be really interesting if we get a duel
Speaker 3: adventure now, which is the three boys trying to escape
Speaker 3: the sewers and the two girls having to go in
Speaker 3: to have them. That would be really interesting. But look,
Speaker 3: and maybe this is an issue for some people.
Speaker 4: I get it. I do love these kids.
Speaker 3: I think the actors are so good. I'm really feeling them.
Speaker 3: But also, I think one of the best things about
Speaker 3: this is it manages to not feel derivative like a
Speaker 3: Stranger Things, even though obviously Stranger Things is derivative of it.
Speaker 3: But by broaderinging the world and allowing these kids to
Speaker 3: exist in this kind of wider cultural space, I feel
Speaker 3: like actually makes the.
Speaker 4: Show feel way way more original. But I still want
Speaker 4: to see those kids. I love a kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, calm and.
Speaker 5: Go for it, I said I was going to say, Ian,
Speaker 5: even put in the chat, it feels very Stranger Things Coded.
Speaker 5: I'm hoping that they can pull this off before all
Speaker 5: of these kids turn thirty and.
Speaker 2: They won't be in the next season, so they only
Speaker 2: need to do this season and then we're going back,
Speaker 2: so we're going to fast.
Speaker 3: Forward, and I think the idea is that by the
Speaker 3: season three is your key penny Wise season, so you're
Speaker 3: really gonna be waiting to see Bill though I'm sure
Speaker 3: it and Pennywise will agree it definitely.
Speaker 1: I don't think I.
Speaker 3: Think the Cold War aspects, Ian, You're totally right, like
Speaker 3: very Stranger Things Coded, but I think that for me
Speaker 3: This just felt like quite shocking in how scary was,
Speaker 3: and I'm seeing that maybe other wee wouldn't feel that way.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was a bit B movie for them, but
Speaker 3: that's what I love. So Yeah, great first episode. I
Speaker 3: thought it was really scary and I'm excited for you guys.
Speaker 4: To come on and talk more about it.
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