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Speaker 1: Worried today's episode contained spoilers for the first episode of it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Derry One speaking Hello. Name is Jason Caccepsio

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Speaker 1: and I'm Rosey Night and welcome back to Extra Vision

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Speaker 1: where we dive deep. It's your favorite shows, movies, comics

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Speaker 1: of pop culture, company from Iron, where we're bringing you

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Speaker 1: three episodes a week. News plus news guys, did you

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Speaker 1: know that?

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Speaker 2: Have you listened to the news ever?

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Speaker 3: Because guess what it's gonna be on. But first, this

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Speaker 3: episode today is only about it. Welcome to Darius, Andy

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Speaker 3: and Barbara Maschetti Ratturn to Stephen King's dastardly Town with

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Speaker 3: new kids and a new era fifties to sixties. I

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Speaker 3: think by the time we hit the main kids were

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Speaker 3: in the early sixties. We are let's just say we're

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Speaker 3: excited about this show. So me and Jason are going

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Speaker 3: to recap the episode. Then we will introduce our scream queens,

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Speaker 3: Common and Joel to join us to discuss because this

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Speaker 3: is more than just a Stephen King adaptation. This is

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Speaker 3: Warner Brothers trying to launch a Stephen King connected universe,

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Speaker 3: which is really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Welcome to Darry the pilot episode, and folks, it's dry,

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Speaker 1: you know what. You know what's going on. The kids

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Speaker 1: are disappearing bad, they're ending up in the sewer. This

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Speaker 1: shit's been going on for centuries up there in Maine,

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Speaker 1: and it's going on now. We open at the cinema

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Speaker 1: with a with a showing of the music Man, Rosie,

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Speaker 1: are you the music a music man person?

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Speaker 3: I'm not necessarily a music man fan, you know, I

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Speaker 3: learn from this episode, which is gonna make it everyone's shocked.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that the very famous Conan O'Brien monorail

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Speaker 3: episode of The Simpsons is just him doing the music Man.

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Speaker 1: And The music Man itself is about a guy who

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Speaker 1: We open at the cinema. It's the Music Man. There's

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Speaker 1: He's watching The Music Man and he's, uh, he's got

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Speaker 1: And as you know, the people around him are kind

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Speaker 1: forward to the present four months later, April eighteen. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: I wrote eighteen sixty two, as if it's the height

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all good, and nothing is gonna happen at Dairy.

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Speaker 3: And there's definitely nothing dodgy about having a fos bace

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Speaker 1: Come on. We open on Dairy High School. You know,

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Speaker 3: Definitely, And I want to say touching already on one

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Speaker 4: And we stop to get that touch with the Handland story.

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Speaker 1: The one who is the most disrespectful, disobedient to his

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Speaker 1: James Remar comes up and is and basically drops his

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Speaker 1: then come to my office later. Let's have a drink.

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Speaker 1: We get to another scene with Phil and Teddy, the

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Speaker 1: And it turns out that they were Phil, Teddy and Maddie,

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Speaker 1: The thing is like when you when you very often

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Speaker 3: I also think the kids are so young looking like

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm not I can't go there with you, Lily

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Speaker 3: Extremely real to me. This was like the story am

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Speaker 4: Like, is this possible?

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Speaker 2: I read this.

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Speaker 3: Scary book and my parents will like, please just shut

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Speaker 3: And you know what I have to say, bad parenting a dad,

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Speaker 1: So now it's Teddy, Phil and Lily and this trio

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Speaker 3: like Ronnie's dad was also kind of kind to Matty.

435
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: So you know, it's an outside of space the cinema

436
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 3: and the police immediately look there.

437
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: So Ronnie's like, get the fuck out of here. I

438
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about Maddie, Like this whole thing

439
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: has been a real stressor for my family, and just

440
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: get out of here. And so they're leaving. But as

441
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: they're leaving, Phil is like I told you she wouldn't

442
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: believe it about the sewers, and Ronnie's who wha, wha

443
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: who what would you say? Sewers? And Ronnie is like,

444
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: hold up, sewers, I'm hearing stuff in the sewers too.

445
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Speaker 1: Bomb bomb bomb on the base. That night after the meeting,

446
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Speaker 1: Hanlan is attacked by several maskmen and lest you think

447
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: this is purely a racial incident, they want They're like,

448
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: give us the intel about the new B fifty two bomber.

449
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: What okay? So something very interesting going on. Hanlan is like,

450
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: you're gonna need to pull that tra your hoss if

451
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: you want that, you want, you need to shoot me

452
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna give you the intel. So Russo

453
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Speaker 1: comes kool aid through the breaks down the door and

454
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: they have this scrap with these masked men and they

455
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Speaker 1: fight them off, and then the mask men run off

456
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Speaker 1: of Tonight, and then Handlin and Russo sit there and

457
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: basically pat each other on the back while these men

458
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 1: are running through the base. Shouldn't you go alert like

459
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Speaker 1: the base security and be like, hey, there's masked men

460
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Speaker 1: on the base looking for info about the B fifty

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Speaker 1: two bomber.

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Speaker 3: My theory is that there is more going on at

463
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Speaker 3: the base than just the ball master. There's a reason

464
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Speaker 3: these two don't want to be talking, because otherwise, why

465
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Speaker 3: is that not the first thing you do? Also, I

466
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Speaker 3: guess we should mention that I think that's really interesting

467
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 3: for them to center a black family and have Jovanna

468
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Speaker 3: Deppo from Overlord come in as.

469
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Speaker 4: Leroy Handlin and then have a new mic.

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Speaker 3: We also get Taylor Page as Mike's mom, and I

471
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Speaker 3: think this is a time to kind of course correct

472
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Speaker 3: post Mike being written out of it, and this focuses

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Speaker 3: more on kind of oh my god, Mike leading into

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Speaker 3: what he would be in the interludes as an adult.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm very excited and I love these characters

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Speaker 3: so far.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's still crazy to me that you're go chase

478
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: these guys or go find the MP's and be like, hey,

479
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. That was weird anyway. So the kids

480
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: learned from Ronnie that the song that Maddie was because like,

481
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, Lily sings a little bit of it, and

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Speaker 1: Ronnie's like, oh, that's from the that's from the music Man.

483
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Speaker 1: So let's go see the music Man. I have the

484
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Speaker 1: real at the theater and she strings up the she

485
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Speaker 1: puts the film on. They're watching it in the empty theater,

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Speaker 1: the kids, and they're like, you know, just looking for clues,

487
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they're like, wait a second.

488
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Speaker 1: In the crowd is like the music Man is happening,

489
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Speaker 1: and he's like dancing around, you know, talking to the townsfolks.

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Speaker 1: They look and like the Purple Rose of Cairo type situation.

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Speaker 1: They see Maddie in the film. Maddie's in the body.

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Speaker 4: It's he's gone.

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Speaker 1: He's got like a bundle, like a little baby in

494
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: his arms, and it was like very very creepy and

495
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Speaker 1: well done. And they're just like Maddie come out witches coded.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember how I'm the original Waldal, which is

497
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: like the girl got trapped in the pain thing. This

498
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 3: was really giving that and his friends are talking to him,

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Speaker 3: and it seems like he's able to.

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00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, like in my work. They're like, man's crown, Yeah,

501
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: walk towards whatever, Walk towards our voye that who knows

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Speaker 1: what Maddie sees inside the screen. But they're like, come here.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to get him outside the screen, but Maddie

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00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: when he gets closer to the screen is basically like,

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Speaker 1: now it's too late. I'm trapped in here. And then

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00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: he throws the baby through the screen and it's the

507
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: demon baby, and the demon baby fucking goes ape shit

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Speaker 1: inside this fucking movie theater. It kills, it smashes Teddy's head.

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00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: I think Teddy's done.

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Speaker 4: Eddy's gone.

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Speaker 1: Teddy's gone. Ronnie very bravely comes down from the projectionist

512
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Speaker 1: booth with a hammer to defend her. She's not even

513
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Speaker 1: close with them.

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Speaker 4: This is classic. Do you remember that tweet?

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00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: I should. This is an eternal in my phone reaction meme,

516
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 3: so I should remember who wrote it. But sorry to

517
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 3: this uncredited non Twitter account. You are amazing. This is

518
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 3: a great meme, but it basically is the one where

519
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: it's like me, if me and my friends had seen ET,

520
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: We're killing that motherfucker with hammers, you know, like that's

521
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 3: Ronnie is Like, Ronnie's like, okay, we'd demon baby. I'm

522
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: getting the hammer, I'm going down and I'm fucking taking it.

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Speaker 1: But she's a real one for brutal guys.

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Speaker 4: Like all kids getting killed in a movie theater.

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Speaker 3: This is a crazy final set piece, and I think

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Speaker 3: it establishes who our.

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Speaker 4: Real leads are gonna be, which I think is really interesting.

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Speaker 1: So again, Lily goes Ronnie goes down there with the hammer,

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Speaker 1: very very very courageous thing to do. She finds that

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Speaker 1: the demon Baby is gone, Phil Teddy, Phil's sister Susie,

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Speaker 1: poor little Susie, who shouldn't even have been there, are

532
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: probably all dead. And she finds Lily covered in blood,

533
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Speaker 1: and Lily in shock, looks down and she's holding Susie's

534
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: severed hat. Folks, it was it was a shocker moment.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed this pilot.

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Speaker 4: I think it's so good.

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Speaker 1: It's really fun. Let's take a quick break and bring

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Speaker 1: in the screen Queens and talk more about and we're back.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome now to the to the Dairy Movie Theater,

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Speaker 1: Blood Soak Darry Movie Theater, To talk Now, episode one

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Speaker 1: of Welcome to Jerry the Screen Queens, Barman and Joel.

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00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: How are you, ladies, and your thoughts on this pilot episode?

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00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: Holy shit, I'll watched this silent in Rosie's bed and

544
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: we were just freaking We were like.

545
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 4: We were so freaked out.

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Speaker 1: We were just laying there like, oh my god, Like

547
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: it was so funny.

548
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Speaker 3: It was unintentional. We were doing a different Halloween marathon.

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Speaker 3: We were watching over the garden.

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Speaker 4: Wall, and yeah, me and Joel were just blown away.

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Speaker 3: Like, I did not expect to have so much style panache.

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00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 3: I find those IT movies to be very bleak. This

553
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: this had a little bit more of that Stephen King

554
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 3: kids kind of fighting together.

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Speaker 4: That I love.

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Speaker 3: But Joel, what about your reading on this first episode?

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Speaker 2: Man? I was really blown away, And there's just so

558
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: much for us to talk about. But I think from

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00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: a broad scope, right, Like, so, not only is the

560
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: pilot good, but the premise for the show is good.

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Speaker 2: And by that I mean Eddie whi Eddie was like,

562
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: oh damn, I really love making these movies. They're so

563
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: much fun. There's all these preludes in the books. Can't

564
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: do those in the movie. We gotta streamline it. What

565
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: have I made an entire TV series justly you get

566
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Speaker 2: the preludes from the books. And also, what if I

567
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 2: did it backwards? So each of your season is going

568
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: to take us like twenty seven years into the past,

569
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Speaker 2: twenty seven years further back in order to like unravel

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Speaker 2: the mystery of like how did it become penny Wise?

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Speaker 2: Are you joking?

572
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 5: I was gray?

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Speaker 2: And then to encase it all in a Stephen King

574
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Speaker 2: universe where you're getting major characters and locations from classic

575
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Speaker 2: Stephen King books. I was like, this is so delicious.

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00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: Immediately I was like, we have to be covering this,

577
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: like I'm never're gonna do week to week or somebody regularly,

578
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: but like, I want to be checking in on the show.

579
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Speaker 2: I'm curious with the thing. I think the cast is outstanding.

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00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I did read some folks were.

581
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: Upset with the scares, But what really impressed me is

582
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Speaker 2: like Andy and Barbara, so there, it doesn't live to

583
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: the movie. It does not scary to know they're wrong.

584
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why

585
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: they're wrong. Let me tell you whether, yeah not, only

586
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: is it actually genuinely terrifying? I know not maybe not

587
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: everybody's into like the bat that's been transformed by nuclear

588
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: power or whatever. I liked it. It worked for me.

589
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: I thought the car scene was really scary. I think

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Speaker 2: all of the kids' performances really lean into the like

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Speaker 2: suspense and tear. The lamp shade will get there. But

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Speaker 2: holy crap. But Barbara and Andy have only done movies, and

593
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: it's really hard to transition from thinking about the very

594
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: streamline process of telling a film story versus the long,

595
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: drawn out, really difficult process of making a television show.

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Speaker 2: They look different structurally, and not everyone's able to adjust.

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Speaker 4: I think the.

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Speaker 2: Amount of scares, the fact that we don't get Penny

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00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: Wise in the pilot, all of that. Really, I think

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Speaker 2: are strong, smart television making great decisions, and if they

601
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Speaker 2: can pull this off on the pilot, I know Andy

602
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: directs a couple more episodes throughout. I'm really excited about

603
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Speaker 2: the whole series. I loved it. Carmen, what did you think? Oh?

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Speaker 5: I was so hyped for this series. I mean opening

605
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 5: up with that childbirth scene absolutely.

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Speaker 2: In the car so visceral. She's not like the underwear

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Speaker 2: on and everything.

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Speaker 5: You're like, oh no, and we feel safe. We feel safe, like, oh,

609
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Speaker 5: this family's gonna take care of him, and then you

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00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 5: start to realize, wait a minute, there's somebody yeah, and

611
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Speaker 5: then I I do appreciate that that we did not

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Speaker 5: get to see penny Wise in the first episode. I

613
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 5: half expected that that baby was going to pop out

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Speaker 5: and it was going to be penny Wise any I.

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Speaker 4: Did we did think.

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Speaker 5: I was like, I'm glad they didn't do that, though,

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Speaker 5: because I'm still I know that when we do see

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Speaker 5: penny Wise for the first time, we are going to

619
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Speaker 5: be shocked and amazed. But no, I thought it was effective.

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Speaker 5: Just even hearing Jason go through the recap, I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 5: that all happened in that first time, and it.

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Speaker 3: It feels really breezy when you watch it, like it

623
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Speaker 3: feels like it works. Something I loved common I wonder

624
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 3: if you could speak to is just like a lot

625
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 3: of weird horror vibes and references and just like feeling

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Speaker 3: like the opening in the car feels completely different to

627
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 3: any kind of Stephen King thing we've seen. But if

628
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: you've watched trapped, like if you've watched weird cult movies

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Speaker 3: where people are trapped in their car, or that, you know,

630
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Speaker 3: the What's dead End, the one where they just trapped

631
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Speaker 3: on the loop, it was giving a lot of feelings.

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Speaker 3: So as a horror lover, what were you feeling from that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it reminded me. I felt like I was watching

634
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Speaker 5: like it had done like Nightmare on Elm Street. I

635
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 5: was like, we're doing like Nightmare on Elm Street level,

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Speaker 5: like horror vignettes that are really like elaborate and thought out,

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00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 5: like that lamp scene. You know, that lamp scene went

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Speaker 5: on for like I feel like watching it felt like

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Speaker 5: five minutes, you know, but of course it was.

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Speaker 2: That's actually the shortest scared, but it's how funny, it's

641
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: so terrifying. About maybe a minute a minute and a half.

642
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: Where is the like opening car scene is I think

643
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: like seven and the final movie scene is roughly the same.

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00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: It's fast, but it's so scary.

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00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, and especially when it rolls around and screams in

646
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 5: his space, it really sticks with you so much. Said that,

647
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Speaker 5: I had forgotten that the Cinema was at the end

648
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Speaker 5: of this episode because it's so much happening, and yeah,

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Speaker 5: I just love I feel like, you know, we're I mean, shit,

650
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 5: we all they killed off all these kids we were

651
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 5: meant to care about in the first episode, and so

652
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, it's we're doing something really bold here.

653
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 5: It feels almost like Game of Thrones for like horror people.

654
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 3: You know.

655
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: Now who was watched beyond episode one.

656
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: A little bit of episode two, but not too much.

657
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 5: I've seen episode two.

658
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: It seems to me from episode one, you know it,

659
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, just give me yours that what we're going

660
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 1: to find out is that the US military has tried

661
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: to weaponize pennywise what we're going to find out because

662
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: what it feels because I write what I what I

663
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: love about what I think is really interesting about the

664
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: way this, at least through the pilot, the way this

665
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: show is set up and how it works is like

666
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: there's almost in terms of like how the horror works

667
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: in the world, it's like kind of nothing. The kids

668
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: are disappearing. It's like you could actually be confused that

669
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: you're not watching it or a reboot of it, like

670
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: because it is basically what happens. But what they've added

671
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: is these other textures of like the military conspiracy and

672
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: uh and the goings on with the adults in town,

673
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: and it really feels like there there's going to be

674
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: a much larger conspiracy and it's not just going to

675
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: be about this ancient fucking demon that's been in this

676
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: area since you know, the indigenous Native Americans. Time, it's

677
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: going to be some other kind of military conspiracy. And

678
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: if that's the case, it's so crazy that I'm here

679
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: for it's.

680
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, let me read two and yes. So

681
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: Andy says, it was very exciting to explore what the

682
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 2: sixties were in America and what fear was and what

683
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: kids were afraid of. It was the Cold War and

684
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: kids in school were performing drills in case of a

685
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 2: nuclear explosion. You can't imagine the state of paranoia. People

686
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: were asking, is there going to be a nuclear explosion tomorrow?

687
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: What are we going to do? Will there be people

688
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: with birth defects? It was very exciting to think of

689
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: those ripples. Then, at the premiere of the show, he

690
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: was talking about growing up in Buenos Aires and living

691
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: under a dictatorship, and he had this to say when

692
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: Stephen King wrote it, he was writing a masterpiece of

693
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: horror and a coming of age story, but it was

694
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 2: also a parable of fear mongering and weaponizing a fear

695
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: in the real world. The metaphor about fear mongering was

696
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: very relevant when he wrote it, but somehow it seems

697
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: much more relevant in the days that we're living now.

698
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: So that's why I like to consider the show as

699
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: a reminder of that if you believe in empathy and love,

700
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: we can keep together and stand up against violence and

701
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: intimidation and cruelty from these fucking clowns are bestowing upon us.

702
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 5: I love it.

703
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: This also makes so much sense because I was I'm

704
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: a big Mike Canlan fan from the original, especially the

705
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: nineties TV show version the mini series, and correctly so

706
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: in the first not a lot of Mike in the

707
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: first IT movie, by Machete's second one does bring adult

708
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: Mike him, but not like crazily, not how much of

709
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: a big part he really is in the interludes of

710
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: the book.

711
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 4: So to have adult.

712
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: Mike Canlan here as your adult in character, I think

713
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 3: is so clever and I want to know more about it,

714
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: and I want to I want to see them tell

715
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 3: this story in a way that is both relevant to

716
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 3: the American time that it's set in, but also like

717
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: imagine some bigger and I think that is here what

718
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 3: appeals to me so much is like there is a

719
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: world outside of Derry that is influencing Derry, and there

720
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 3: are politics, and there are conversations. But a lot of

721
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: times I feel like when people set a show in

722
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: the past, they use it as an excuse to not

723
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: cast people of.

724
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 4: Color, and I feel like it's very and exactly thanks.

725
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, Robert, there were there were vikings, there

726
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: were other colors, my friend. But but I think here

727
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 3: this actually like surprised me by how much it establishes

728
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: that it might explore that. And we know from the

729
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 3: trailers put your ear muffs on if you don't want

730
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: to hear a spoiler for the rest of the show spoiler.

731
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: Air muffs on.

732
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: We know that we will also get to meet the

733
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: character who is a psychic from Shining from the Shining Right.

734
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 4: We are going to be in the show. We see

735
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 4: him briefly, and if you know in The Shining Law

736
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 4: he is a psychic.

737
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: So my reading on this and I do watch a

738
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 3: lot of anime about espers and esp and that kind

739
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: of stuff. But I feel like this is going to

740
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: be about America's exploration of the paranormal, of how they

741
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 3: can weaponize people who have sensitivities, and I think that,

742
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 3: you know, we've seen.

743
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: It in such fun Ghostbusters.

744
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 3: You know, I think about that a lot, but I

745
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: don't remember a really great exploration of Americanized exploration into

746
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: the paranormal and the occult for military purposes, even though

747
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: we know, for example, the Nazis loved occult sciences and magic,

748
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: and so I'm really interested in that aspect and I

749
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: loved it call Around. He didn't get the ending he

750
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 3: deserved in the Shining, but it's been great to see

751
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: him come back and other stuff like Doctor Sleep. So yeah,

752
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: I'm just very excited. I think this is great. Jason,

753
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: this is a Stephen King heavy show. Did you notice

754
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 3: any other Steve King moments or.

755
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: Will it should checking out.

756
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: Nothing that we didn't pick up on.

757
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 4: In the trim.

758
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: You know, for instance, that the Shank Boss stuff like that,

759
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: But I'm eager to to to check on more of that.

760
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: You know, I think one of my most favorite Stephen

761
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: King reading moments was the moment that I realized that

762
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: the bad guy from the stand Flag was uh, was

763
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: the bad guy in like the gun Slinger stuff and

764
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: in The Tower and in different other Stephen King things.

765
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm eager to see if he threads that

766
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: kind of.

767
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 4: I want to know that to the question.

768
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: They have been trying to make an interconnected Stephen King

769
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: universe for many years.

770
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 4: Guess what, Stephen King already made it. It's in the book.

771
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 4: But we've seen Castle Rock where we had like.

772
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: Lizzie Kaplan playing the iconic Kathy Bates role from Miseries,

773
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: and so there has been investment in these kind of stories.

774
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 4: But I think they.

775
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 3: Were more in that mceu esque era of how do

776
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: we connect everything? Not necessarily story first, which obviously knows

777
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: why the MCU was so popular because they did go.

778
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 4: Story first in Phase one.

779
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: I think those were more of a representation of that.

780
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: I also have seen multiple different cuts of the Dark

781
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: Tower movie. I saw one many years ago at an

782
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: early screening before I was a journalist. That was a

783
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: test screening that was two and a half hours long

784
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 3: and actually pretty incredible and did a great job of

785
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: weaving all of that together. The final version was ninety

786
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: minutes long, mostly set in New York, so there has

787
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: been a struggle to do this. But this episode and

788
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: the little hints that is very well done to me,

789
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: and I love the characters they're focusing on. I love

790
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: that this is maybe a little bit of a course

791
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 3: correction from Stephen King's own representations of race and sex.

792
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: Can we move over and talk about that.

793
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 4: Let's do that as our final conversation point, because.

794
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the character of Leroy is really intriguing to me.

795
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 2: The soldier prittally, a black soldier in the sixties who's

796
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: so pro America at that time, is really intriguing. I

797
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: think the line there's nothing wrong with this country that

798
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 2: can be fixed by what's right with this country is

799
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: a very fun opening because you're just like, oh, brother,

800
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: you're about to get bit to be.

801
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: This guys after the.

802
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 2: Very the Korean War, he's like, I can't even talk

803
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: about Korea. It's interesting to hear him, you know when

804
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: we when we think about black soldiers in World War

805
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: Two and they're instance from being in Europe to coming

806
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: back home and how they were treated. I wanted to

807
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: make a very quick comment on you, you know, you guys

808
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: were talking earlier about like, you know, why wouldn't this

809
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: character Leroy like run and tell security given his earlier

810
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: interaction where the guy didn't want to salute him. My

811
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: thought was like, Oh, this is hazing. This is trying

812
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: to see if I would break under being krilled like

813
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: this like that. These are American like regul like there's

814
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: not an accent here the I'm being hazed or abused,

815
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: I mean really just being abused as a black eye

816
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: in charge. And I think he was like, I'm not

817
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: going to rap. I'll figure this out separately. Perhaps that

818
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: was my takeaway. And and with all of that and

819
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: the fact that there are so many black characters in

820
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: this show, I'm really excited we'll also have indigenous characters

821
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: being featured later. There's nine episodes in this season.

822
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 4: I'm interested to see where that's gonna go.

823
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm really hoping, you know, Stephen King has

824
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: done the indigenous popular He's pretty dirty, with a lot

825
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: of like haunted. So I think if you're going to

826
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: try to create a Stephen King universe, uh, starting here

827
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: by sort of cleaning up the slate, really getting some

828
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: of this like way backstory established early. That's really exciting

829
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: to me.

830
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very I think that that's a great cool

831
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: and I'm very excited to see jove On playing Leroy

832
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: and getting a new Mike Camlin who hopefully is gonna

833
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: and it seems like from this episode is going to

834
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: be one of the mates.

835
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

836
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: I want to get that. I want to see him

837
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 3: get that story. He is the historian, he is the

838
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: hat of the kids, and I think this is so

839
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: I'm just really excited about it.

840
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: I think it's so so week. It feels so Phil

841
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: and Teddy not dead, right, They're just in the sewer problem.

842
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't think about that. I was considering okay

843
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: with dead, but I like they could be in the sewers.

844
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: The casting is too good too, was too good. I

845
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: feel like it would it would be audacious and really

846
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: cool if they were dead. That I agree.

847
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: Baby assisted though.

848
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, they showed the hand she got.

849
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: I wouldst one.

850
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 3: It could be really interesting if we get a duel

851
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: adventure now, which is the three boys trying to escape

852
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 3: the sewers and the two girls having to go in

853
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: to have them. That would be really interesting. But look,

854
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: and maybe this is an issue for some people.

855
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 4: I get it. I do love these kids.

856
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,959
Speaker 3: I think the actors are so good. I'm really feeling them.

857
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 3: But also, I think one of the best things about

858
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: this is it manages to not feel derivative like a

859
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: Stranger Things, even though obviously Stranger Things is derivative of it.

860
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: But by broaderinging the world and allowing these kids to

861
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 3: exist in this kind of wider cultural space, I feel

862
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 3: like actually makes the.

863
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 4: Show feel way way more original. But I still want

864
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 4: to see those kids. I love a kid.

865
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, calm and.

866
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 5: Go for it, I said I was going to say, Ian,

867
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 5: even put in the chat, it feels very Stranger Things Coded.

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Speaker 5: I'm hoping that they can pull this off before all

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Speaker 5: of these kids turn thirty and.

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Speaker 2: They won't be in the next season, so they only

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Speaker 2: need to do this season and then we're going back,

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Speaker 2: so we're going to fast.

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Speaker 3: Forward, and I think the idea is that by the

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Speaker 3: season three is your key penny Wise season, so you're

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Speaker 3: really gonna be waiting to see Bill though I'm sure

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Speaker 3: it and Pennywise will agree it definitely.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I.

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Speaker 3: Think the Cold War aspects, Ian, You're totally right, like

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Speaker 3: very Stranger Things Coded, but I think that for me

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Speaker 3: This just felt like quite shocking in how scary was,

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Speaker 3: and I'm seeing that maybe other wee wouldn't feel that way.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it was a bit B movie for them, but

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Speaker 3: that's what I love. So Yeah, great first episode. I

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Speaker 3: thought it was really scary and I'm excited for you guys.

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Speaker 4: To come on and talk more about it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, on the next episode of Extra Vision, we have

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Speaker 1: a very special Halloween edition of Your Wrong Friend. That's

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Speaker 1: it for this episode.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening him Bye bye.

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Speaker 1: Xtra Vision is hosted by Jason Concepts Young and Rosie

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