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Speaker 1: Well, because they're doing clickbait, Marv, that's what we call that,

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Speaker 2: It's just like I'm sucked in by the clickmate headlines

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Speaker 1: On both sides because the reason the word immorality is

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Speaker 1: Believe the exact same things.

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Speaker 2: Right, But I can feel I can feel your honesty,

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Speaker 2: Right now, you might as well get honest because we're

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Speaker 1: Right, it's not real anyway. All right, Well, let's move

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Speaker 2: That's universal truths, intuition, your soul. I was just doing

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, desires are a positive that you should do without

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm kind of into it. I'm like, let's wrap

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Speaker 1: this shit up because it's made a mess, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm open to the new eccentric ideas and everyone

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Speaker 1: what we're fed constantly. Like that sounds actually really nice

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Speaker 1: to me. And if we're able to speak about it

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Speaker 1: that would be whoof Chef's kiss to that?

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Speaker 2: Fabulous?

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Speaker 1: Yes, that sounds amazing. Well, Marv, I'm gonna put all

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Speaker 1: of the time. Yeah, I'm gonna put all of Marv's

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Speaker 1: contact info. A great Christmas gift if you guys are

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Speaker 1: looking for, you know, a fun, different, interesting Christmas gift

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Speaker 1: is to give a session with Marv to anyone in

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Speaker 1: your life. I've done that multiple times. It's always well

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Speaker 1: received and it's just a fun, you know, interesting thing.

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Speaker 1: So I will put his contact info in the description

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Speaker 1: of this podcast. A link to where you can find

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Speaker 1: his book, and Marv will be back with us next year.

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Speaker 1: I guess we won't see you anymore in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: How how interesting for us?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll be a year older, and I hope i'm

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Speaker 2: a year wise.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Well, happy early birthday. I totally forgot

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Speaker 1: about that as well. Yes, well, hopefully we're all a

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Speaker 1: year wiser after this one. All right, Well, thank you

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Speaker 1: guys so much for listening with us and being here.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you're twenty your December of twenty twenty five wrap up.

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Speaker 1: You can be guided a little bit with what tools

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Speaker 1: Marv just gave us. And Marv, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for everything you've given us this year and for this

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Speaker 1: breakdown for December.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for the opportunity, Miss Kelly. I appreciate it,

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Speaker 2: and I hope everyone has a wonderful, beautiful holiday. Make

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Speaker 2: it happen. We're in jearge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, that's a good way to put it. We

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Speaker 1: are in charge of our own lives, all right. You

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Speaker 1: guys have a great full moon and Gemini and godspeed

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Speaker 1: with all of the December astrology, and we'll be back

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Speaker 1: with you guys in January.