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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back Scart Marlow with us. We'll

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Speaker 1: take calls with Scott next hours. We're talking about cryptids

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Speaker 1: in Florida. Fascinating. Have you ever been scared by any

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Speaker 1: of these creatures, Scott, No, which is really kind of strange.

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Speaker 1: They don't frighten me. Why not? They just don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't know exactly why. They just you know, it's I

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Speaker 1: guess it's just me. Uh. And they they really don't

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Speaker 1: frighten my son either. But then we've dealt with the

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Speaker 1: big cats. We've dealt with bears, you know, We've you know,

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Speaker 1: we've dealt with all kinds of animals. But an animal

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Speaker 1: is just an animal. Uh. And you know I don't

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Speaker 1: look at these things in any kind of particular with

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Speaker 1: any glasses on, so to speak, or colored glasses on.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know their animals are gonna do what

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Speaker 1: animals do, and I have no trouble dealing with them.

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Speaker 1: I'm good for you. Now let's go back to talk

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Speaker 1: about this Florida skunk cape again and again. The size

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Speaker 1: of it, the look does it look like a big

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Speaker 1: foot to most people? Well, it's got hair. Yes, it

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Speaker 1: has more of a neck than the classic big foot

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Speaker 1: or subsquatch. It's very muscular and it kind of looks

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Speaker 1: like it's wearing a hairsuit that's elastic, if you will,

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Speaker 1: because it, you know, it hangs to the musculature of

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Speaker 1: the animal very well. But of course, you know, we've

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Speaker 1: got to remember they live in a swampy environment, so

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Speaker 1: you know, they don't of course down here, they don't

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Speaker 1: need to have the super heavy coat of fur that

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Speaker 1: you'd have to have if you live in the mountains

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Speaker 1: because of the different different climate. What do you think

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Speaker 1: the population size might be out there, Scott? There's probably

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Speaker 1: a couple of thousand, uh, you know, and there's plenty

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Speaker 1: of space for them to hide down here. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's still unbuild areas, although it's disappearing fast, especially down

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Speaker 1: in the Everglades. They're now talking about moving even further

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Speaker 1: west and disrupting the environment down there, which I don't

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Speaker 1: support at all. That's a pretty good population though, a

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Speaker 1: couple of thousand, isn't it. Yeah, well, I mean again,

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Speaker 1: you've got how many how many thousands of square miles

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Speaker 1: of state to work with? Sure, So I mean it's

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Speaker 1: you know, we've got some pretty remote areas. You go

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Speaker 1: into the Appalachicola National Forest, Like I said, Tate's Hell Swamp,

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Speaker 1: which is up in that area, the big Cypress Swamp

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Speaker 1: down here, which is undeveloped, pretty much, the area up

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Speaker 1: north of me, the Green Swamp. Boy, that's lots and

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Speaker 1: lots and lots of space. Okala National Forest, going up

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Speaker 1: into the Okifinoki. I mean, you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of places that these animals can be. Now you were

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Speaker 1: in trees that kind of scary. That's scary. It can be.

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Speaker 1: It's not as scary to me as those darned snakes

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Speaker 1: that we're having down in the Everglades now, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: but then again, I'm a I'm an anti snake person.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I appreciate them. I don't want to do

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Speaker 1: anything bad to them. I just don't like them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's like Indiana Jones. Why did it have to be snakes?

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Speaker 1: So you know, there's they're getting to the point that

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Speaker 1: they're out of control in the Everglades. I mean, they're enormous.

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Speaker 1: Well are they man eaters? Well, we haven't had any

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Speaker 1: taking on the you know, the wildlife down there. There's

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Speaker 1: How big are they? Well, they get to be like

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Speaker 1: eighteen feet or more. And if they open up their mouths,

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Speaker 1: how big would it be? About twelve inches big? Well,

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Speaker 1: they could certainly swallow a small child. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that human. Well, you want to see a really big

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Speaker 1: that's a big snake, isn't It's a huge snake. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh. And now there have been reports of shark

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Speaker 1: teeth being found right, Oh yeah, Well, you find sharks

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Speaker 1: teeth all over the place, fossil I sharks teeth are

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Speaker 1: a big thing down here. People love to collect them.

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Speaker 1: But you also, if you beach comb you can find

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Speaker 1: go and you can find all sorts of fossils down there,

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Speaker 1: sharks teeth primarily, they're called megalodons. Yep. I've got a

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Speaker 1: They go up to about nine inches, but the around

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Speaker 1: is around three or four inches. That's still a big tooth, Yes,

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Speaker 1: that they would wash ashore, does that tell you that

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Speaker 1: or are these things alive out there? Well? The coloration

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Speaker 1: of the teeth tell you everything. If they're fossilized, they're

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Speaker 1: going to be either brownish or black, okay, upon the

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Speaker 1: kind of soil they've been fossilized in. But if it's

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Speaker 1: an off white or a cream color, that's that's a

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Speaker 1: living animal. And so what are your colors? All of

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Speaker 1: mine are black and brown, so they're pretty old. Can

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Speaker 1: you can you carbon date something like that a tooth? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You could, Yes, you haven't done that yet though, no, okay,

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Speaker 1: but I would guess it could go back how far

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Speaker 1: millions of years? Oh? Several and at least several thousand. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You've found some extremely interesting specimens of things all over

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Speaker 1: the state. I mean the crystal minever over near Fort

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Speaker 1: Drum used to produce some really interesting material. They were

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Speaker 1: well known for calcite clams, the gigantic prehistoric clams, but

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Speaker 1: and other things we'd find there. We've found sharks teeth

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Speaker 1: there as well. But you know, the biggest cash of

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Speaker 1: good of good shark two specimens I've found thus far

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Speaker 1: on Peace River U in Arcadia, Florida. Are they all

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Speaker 1: over the place? Oh? Yeah, you can find them in

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Speaker 1: any of the old rivers. You'll find them in the

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Speaker 1: in the wiki Wachee area. You'll find them off of Akaiva.

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Speaker 1: You'll find them up on the Swannee River. You'll find

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Speaker 1: them on the Alachua River. They're everywhere. Now, a shark,

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Speaker 1: even prehistoric they didn't have bones, did they. They didn't

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you'll find jaw fragments by the teeth really is

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Speaker 1: That's not but that does tend to disintegrate as well.

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Speaker 1: They've got some wonderful samples at the State Museum. If

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Speaker 1: you want to see some good meglodon jaws, they've got

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Speaker 1: a completely reconstructed one. They're at the museum in Gainesville. Now,

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Speaker 1: constantly getting reports. Most of them I can tell are

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Speaker 1: phony and hoaxes. Why would people do that? They're trying

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Speaker 1: out of that. Well, they want to prove they're smarter

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Speaker 1: then again, the kind of people who want to perpetrate

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Speaker 1: those hoaxes are juvenile to begin with. Yeah, absolutely. Do

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Speaker 1: stuffed it with deer guts. Yeah, we're well aware of

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Speaker 1: uh particularly one of them wasn't wasn't one a cup? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought we lost you. But actually the biker gangs,

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Speaker 1: he ran off with his tail between his legs. Will

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Speaker 1: we ever really get the specimen? I mean, what where

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Speaker 1: for example? No, not at this point, but I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing is coming. Why why do we

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Speaker 1: have them with all the sophisticated technology we have these

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Speaker 1: What about families of swamp apes? Has anybody found little

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Speaker 1: babies or anything like that. They've reported them, they've seen them.

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Speaker 1: But actually some commercial fishermen down in the Key saw

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Speaker 1: Thousand Islands. Go ahead, yeah, no, go ahead. What are

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Speaker 1: when they see these creatures, They're not the skunk cape

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Speaker 1: what are they? No? Well, there, they would be the

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Speaker 1: bigfoot of the sasquatch, which is a totally different breed

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Speaker 1: the sasquatch bigfoot does exist. Yes, that's pretty remarkable. I'm

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Speaker 1: there's a connection between them and things like the red

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Speaker 1: do some DNA work. And when I got there, the

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Speaker 1: any other Why not, They've got some to hide whatever

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Speaker 1: great discovery that would have been. Yeah. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: some very convincing materials that the mainstream archeology is calling

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Speaker 1: site picked, which is ridiculous. At the Calico Mountain site

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Speaker 1: near what is it I can't think of in Varstow, California.

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Speaker 1: And in any case, what I saw were definitely handmade

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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that these things that were going

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Speaker 1: it be the missing link between man and ape? Well,

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Speaker 1: a linear chain of events. It's it's a branches of

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Speaker 1: a tree, So missing link really doesn't apply. But they

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Speaker 1: be one of the things that doctor Meldourn believes right,

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Speaker 1: Well that that is absolutely true. These of all the

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Speaker 1: cryptic stories you hear, Scott and all the creatures, which

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Speaker 1: one fascinates you the most? Oh? God, I can't pick one.

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Speaker 1: They all do. And you had mentioned that there's like

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Speaker 1: some twenty down in Florida. We just mentioned like three

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Speaker 1: or four of them. What else is out there? Well,

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Speaker 1: among other things? The cracker dog killer. What is that?

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Speaker 1: That's goes back quite a way. Uh. It's an animal.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like a wolverine from what they report

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Speaker 1: that years ago used to go after the dogs belonging

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Speaker 1: to Florida crackers. So they called it the cracker dog killer.

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Speaker 1: I think actually that it's an otter. Are otters dangerous?

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Speaker 1: They can be They're pretty ferocious little things. You can

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Speaker 1: keep them as a pet too, really, yeah, if you

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Speaker 1: raise them from a pup. Yes, but they can be

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Speaker 1: pretty nasty and they've got some they've got some teeth'll

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Speaker 1: gnaw yet pretty good. They've got that big flat tail,

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Speaker 1: don't they. Yes, yeah, well that's that's a beaver. But

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Speaker 1: you know they have they have a rodenty body. What

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Speaker 1: about large rats. Yeah, we've got the gabun rats down

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Speaker 1: in the Florida Keys. How big are they? The size

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Speaker 1: of a house cat? That's a pretty that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: big rat. Yeah, although I have seen some mortar rats

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Speaker 1: up in the New York area along the Hudson River

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Speaker 1: that are about the same size. These are These are

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Speaker 1: amazing creatures. And again I'd like to get back to

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Speaker 1: the thunderbirds too. I mean those sightings still continue. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know, we we get a sighting down

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Speaker 1: in the in the Keys every now and then of

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Speaker 1: like I said, the pterodactyl like birds, that's like that's

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Speaker 1: like a featherless bird, right, yes, but the feathered feathered thunderbirds.

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Speaker 1: I get reports of those from old Town that area,

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Speaker 1: from uh Carabelle, Appalachicola, and uh, you know, and even

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Speaker 1: down as far as Tampa pretty much yearly. Well, thunderbirds

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Speaker 1: are creatures birds to themselves, aren't they. Yes, they're very large.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Like we said before, some of them are

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Speaker 1: reported to be the size of a small plane. But

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Speaker 1: you know, they're it's hard to say because I that's

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Speaker 1: one I have not seen myself. Were they located, Well,

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Speaker 1: the most of the reports come from the Midwest and

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Speaker 1: the Rockies. Okay, you do get them around here once

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Speaker 1: in a while. Can you imagine what a thunderbird nest

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Speaker 1: would look like? Yeah, I can imagine. My god, it

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Speaker 1: must be like ten feet long or something like that. Well,

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Speaker 1: they're going to be a much larger version of an

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Speaker 1: area from a bald eagle. Sure, but the egg would

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Speaker 1: be how big? Well, the egg would probably be a

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Speaker 1: good six seven inches, My god. I'd love to see

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Speaker 1: one of these things, wouldn't you. It'd be very interesting. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean that that is fascinating, and especially the But

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Speaker 1: is there I mean, there are cryptozoologists, but you would

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Speaker 1: not call them scientists, would you. Well, cryptozoologists are if

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Speaker 1: they're dedicated to doing things in a scientific way. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of quote researchers unquote out there that haven't

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Speaker 1: got a clue what to do scientifically right exactly. And

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Speaker 1: my objection as many of them use these animals as

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Speaker 1: an excuse to go out in the in party on

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Speaker 1: the weekend, and yeah, that's that's not science, that's not

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Speaker 1: that's not doing any kind of valid work. Listen to

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