WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Kyle Soelle Latest AZ Native To Play For Cardinals 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:05.320 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles ahead. 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:06.560 He got jacked. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:11.480 This is the big red Rain presented by santan Ford 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:12.120 in Gilbert. 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.560 Harry's gonna score touchdown. Slim to the ground by Buddha 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:20.640 Baker Like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:25.480 The rage is brought to you by santan Ford in Gilbert. 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:29.880 Are you santan Ford State Farm? Talk to an agent 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:34.880 today at eight hundred State Farm. And by Arizona Cardinals 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.960 Podcasts visit Hazycardinals dot com, Slash podcasts. 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:41.920 All red scenes, rising up. 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:49.760 Temperaturizing vision, flurring, rage taking over. 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For 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.120 this edition of The Big Red Rage, presented by santan 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.480 Ford and Gilbert, we are santan Ford shortly going to 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:41.280 be joined by Kyle Soley, the Cardinals rookie from ASU, Paul, 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:42.720 kelvycre Ron Wolfley. 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.959 There, what's going on, Paulie? How you doing well? 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:46.720 Ding dong? 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.840 The off season is over, wolf next stop training camp? 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:50.480 Yeah? 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:54.120 You know, Polly, it's interesting because the due point is 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.520 coming up right now. Okay, the due point. I don't 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.960 know if you happen to notice, Paul, fifty three. As 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.559 a matter of fact, when it gets to fifty five degrees, Paul, 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.560 the due point three days in a row. It's truly 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:09.000 monsoon season. Will that happen? When will that happen? I 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.760 have no idea, but you can almost feel it right now. 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.040 When I feel the due point coming up here in 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.400 the basin, PAULI I immediately think of football, and I 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:18.560 think of training camp. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.600 Well, it can't come soon enough, because all I see 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.760 is in the extended forecast by Sunday, it's going to 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.960 be one ten plus for an extended stretch. So here 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.680 we go, Cardinals, coming off the off season, brand new 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:32.720 head coach, brand new culture. Dare we say Jonathan Gannon? 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.919 So before we commence with what we observed and heard 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.440 from the Cardinals here in twenty twenty three, the Cardinals 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.560 new head coach was asked, where does the team stand 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:44.119 exactly after Mini Camp? 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.239 At a point there in the offseason, I felt like 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:47.840 we're moving fast on a lot of things, a lot 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:49.920 of different balls in the air, But I really like 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.519 where we are as far as where we are right 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.399 now at the end of Mini Camp and a lot 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.160 of work to be done this summer. But I think 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.400 that we set a good foundation for when we come 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.840 back here. You know it's going to be it's going 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:03.840 to be ratcheted up. 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.280 Just to tad two words. We've heard plenty of wolf 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:11.160 and it's a favorite phrase of Jonathan Gannon winning behavior. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.720 It either is or it isn't. And he's trying to 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:19.920 check those boxes of accountability, attention to detail, all out 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.200 effort all the time. These are all things you can control. 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:25.000 We have no idea what's going to happen in camp. 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:26.640 We have no idea what's gonna happen this season. I 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:30.320 guess what the things you can control. He's been very 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.760 much in favor of trying to set once again that 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.480 winning behavior no matter what the Cardinals are doing at 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.000 any point in the process. 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:42.760 That's exactly right, Polly. And when you're talking about behavior 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.000 as well, you're talking about the behavior as it relates 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:49.040 to culture and what your culture is. I know it's 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.720 an overused term, Polly, it's an overused word, but it's 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.520 so legit. It's something that is so integral to the 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:00.440 success of a professional sports team, in particular because money 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:04.480 changes the entire dynamic. Culture is so important because it 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:08.119 says what we do and it also says how we 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:12.120 do it. See, that's where your behavior comes into play. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.680 It's what we do and how we do it. How 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.800 are you going to behave under those two conditions. This 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:24.279 is why this offseason was so important to JG. Because 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.279 he's trying to lay the foundation of what they do 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.440 and how they're gonna do it for training camp coming up. 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:33.520 And I'll give you a real life example. You tell 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.560 me if this is on point or not. Because Craig 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.200 Reel and myself. We were going through some of these 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.640 stats regarding penalties over the last three years twenty twenty, 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.800 the Cardinals are the most penalized team. Right They had 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.080 the most false starts last year, third most penalized team, 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.880 but the most accepted penalties against the Cardinals in the NFL. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:56.280 And they led the NFL in pre snap penalties, including 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.520 twenty five false starts, which was number two. See, to me, 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:04.080 that's controllable. To me, that is culture. To me, that 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.880 is attention to detail. And when we've heard the stories 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.000 and I'm gonna ask Kyle solely about this a little 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:13.839 bit later, has Jonathan Gannon held you accountable yet? Because 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.520 how did the off season start with the owner? The 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:21.000 owner instigating vast change through the organization, both the head 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:24.120 coach and the GM and telling the media we have 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.880 an accountability issue. And that's where this off season started. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.880 And guess what, I think that's the path they've tried 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.279 to go down more than anything as they head into camp. 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.120 And you know what, poly honestly, just to continue to 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.920 harp on this a little bit here, but it's so important. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.880 Once again, when I talk about what we do and 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.240 how we do it, think of the example of Zavan 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:50.159 Collins who said he brought food into a meeting, right 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:54.240 and JG was like, Nope, that's not gonna work. Get 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.800 that out of here right now. Okay, that that right 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.240 there is Okay, what do we do while we meet? 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.719 Maybe it's the first thing they do is a team 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.520 every morning. I'm not saying that's the truth. I'm just 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:08.040 saying hypothetically, maybe that's what they do they meet. That's 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.520 the first thing. That's what you do when you come 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.920 into the facility building. You're gonna have an eight o'clock meeting. 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.360 That's what you do first. And how you do it. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.440 Don't you dare bring anything to drink or anything to 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.880 eat inside that meeting. That is the discipline. That's where discipline, 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:29.120 team discipline starts, Paulie. And if you're talking about team discipline, 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:34.040 you're really talking about what individuals. You're talking about individual 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:38.080 player discipline. It starts with one that it goes to 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:42.440 two and then four. You do the math, paul No math. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.480 That's my hashtag that I live by. But I will 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.120 say this that you know that example there was zam 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.400 and Collins, Hey, thou shalt not multitask because what are 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.400 you doing that means you're not fully focused on what 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:57.119 Jonathan Gandon's talking about. So I think there is cause 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.720 and effect there. There is a message sin and it 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.560 is a applicable to when the little things are big 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.560 things in the NFL, and those little things can cost 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.719 you games. So there's that. And by the way, Xavi 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.080 and Collins, I'll tell you this much towards the end 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:11.760 of camp, the end of mini camp, and you had 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.680 two players say, and Dennis Gardek I'll quote him, he'll 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.560 be a dominant outside backer talking about Zavon Collins. And 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.880 then Josh Woods told you wolf on ninety eight to 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.600 seven that Xavin Collins is quote going to be an 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:26.560 amazing player in this league. That raised a couple eyebrows 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.920 have have we missed a storyline in Xavi and Collins? 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.480 Because if you're talking about position groups and where they 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:37.600 could add to the roster, obviously edge is right up there. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.280 I'd say, d line is up there, cornerback is up there, 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:46.480 maybe center, tight end. What's your gut feeling do you think, 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.320 Manti asin Ford is this still a work in progress 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:50.440 in what degree? 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.120 Yeah? No, it is a work in progress right now. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.560 I think we're going to have a lot of veteran 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.800 signings right before camp. Now we'll see how this whole 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.160 thing shakes up. But Paully, I just want to go 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.560 back to what you were saying about Zavon Collins and 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.560 Zavon Collins being on the edge. Once again, if you 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.280 were to look at Zavon Collins, where would you guess 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:11.920 he was playing in the NFL? 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.320 Yeah, in almost six five, two sixty, Yeah, Yeah, I'd 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.480 say he's defensive end or an outside linebacker. 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.520 Yeh, that's exactly right, Paully. That's what everybody would say, 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.880 anyone who knows the NFL. You'd look at a body, 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.760 you'd look at a type like Zavon Collins, and you'd say, 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.680 that guy's playing on the edge. It was an anomaly 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.120 that he was a Mike linebacker. When you think about it, 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:36.439 you just don't get a lot of tall inside Mike linebackers. Now, 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:41.360 Brian Urlacker was a big, tall Mike linebacker. Okay, Jack Lambert, 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.440 you can go all the way, go all the way 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.719 back to Jack Lambert's and the Pittsburgh Steelers that were 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.560 winning Super Bowls. He was. He was a complete freak 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.880 anomaly at six ' four for an inside linebacker right now, 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.360 but you don't see a lot of them. They're typically 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.560 lowered to the ground, and that's because you don't want 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.400 to have somebody that's easy to get under as your 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.360 mike linebacker when you're six ' five as tall as 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.079 Zavian Collins. Now, all of a sudden, he's going to 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.320 be out on the edge where his skills set I 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:17.040 think really really benefits him. Now, can he learn the 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.520 technique soon enough, PAULI to really make a difference on 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.400 the edge. We're gonna see. 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.480 And look, I can give you all these storylines that 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.800 I can name names and position groups, but it always 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:31.400 comes back to quarterback. So the number one storyline going 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.760 into camp is going to be number one himself and 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.440 Jonathan Ganning. Before kicking off a quick summer vacation, was 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.600 asked about the outlook for Kyler Murray. 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.640 Well, see long way to go, you know what I mean. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.600 I don't know if there's five or six weeks until 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.200 we start, I think, or five and a half or 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.400 whatever it is, But we'll take it day by day. 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.720 And he's doing a good job improving his game every 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.360 day in the training room, in the meeting rooms. He's 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.640 out there. He's another one like Buddha. He asked a 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:56.880 lot of questions, which is good. 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:01.160 He's engaged, and look, we don't know. That's the honest answer. 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.000 Could he be back right away in September? Sure, Could 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.280 he be back in October? Absolutely, we just don't know. 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.400 What we do know is when he gets back Wolf, 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.719 this offense is going to look a lot different than 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.000 the scheme he just ran the last four years. 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.040 There's no doubt about it, Bully, and that is That's why, 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:21.680 once again, in a gross simplification of the truth, you're 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.600 looking at a year that most people believe is going 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:28.040 to be a rebuilding year for the Arizona Cardinals. Who knows, 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:31.560 we've seen Brian Dabile, of course, have great success with 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:34.440 the New York Giants during a rebuild, still getting him 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.000 into the postseason. I don't think there's a lot of 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.560 people out there that look at the Arizona Cardinals and 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:43.680 think they're going to win twelve games, ten games get 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.679 into the postseason. I don't think there's a lot of 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:48.880 analysts that are out there that look at the Arizona 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.240 Cardinals and think they're going to win a lot. But 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.360 what they are going to do is start building this 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:58.560 team from the ground up once again. In this this 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.400 to me is so important for Kyler Murray that he 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.840 learns how to play from under center. I've talked about 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.680 it for a long long time. Paully, He's got to 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.120 evolve that part of his game. Kenny do it, Kenny 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.439 do it. That's what this season is really gonna be about. 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.599 In a gross simplification of the truth. 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.000 Cole McCoy, when asked about the offense just a couple 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:21.280 of weeks ago, said quote, it's all new. Everybody has 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:26.160 gone back to school. So yeah, that peaked Oark curiosity. 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:30.400 There's no question about that. Hey, it's season six, episode four. 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.240 The Cardinals Flight Plan available now on the Cardinals YouTube page. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:36.120 Go to YouTube dot com slash a Z Cardinals go 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.520 behind the scenes with Paris Johnson at the draft, Mantia 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.640 support in the war room. That's worth the price of 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.360 admission alone, The Cardinals rookies at a Dbacks game, and more, 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:49.000 YouTube dot com slash a Z Cardinals. All Right, Kyle Soley, 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.679 rookie linebacker at ASU Scottsdale. Guy, what does it mean 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.120 to play for the hometown team? That is next? And 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:59.040 the big Red Rage wasented by santan Ford in Gilbert. 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.839 A pump fake by Martinez Now throws across the middle 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:10.160 intercept it. Kyle Solely caught that one just off the 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:14.360 turf and solely the Sun Devil's Senior captain mix up 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.120 for the interception the first of the year for the 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:18.480 Arizona State defense. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:24.000 The unmistakable voice of ASU Athletics Tim Healy, and that's 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.680 sort of three time team captain at ASU sounds like 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.200 I mean you talk about all Arizona from first team 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:35.280 All State at Swarrow High School to ASU's leading tackler 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.120 each of the last two years, to Arizona Cardinals rookie 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.880 who joins US now on the Big Red Rage presented 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:45.360 by santan Ford in Gilbert. We say good evening. Kyle 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.760 Solely is in studio and is rocking some Cardinals gear. Kyle, 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:51.400 how are we doing it? And how did it feel? 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.560 How did it feel to put that on for the 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:54.000 first time? 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.000 It was great, I think I said you know before, 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.439 it was a surreal moment to put on the Cardinal Red. 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.040 Growing up as a kid, I was obviously a fan, 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.720 hometown guy through and through. I love all the hometown 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:05.680 sports teams. So when I got to put on the 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.760 Cardinal red in that jersey, it was a surreal moment. 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.680 And you know, once you step on the grass, just 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.120 right back to work. So it's a great opportunity. I'm excited. 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.920 And your family was emotional as well. I remember you 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:15.400 mentioned in. 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.679 That absolutely absolutely, you know they love that I'm right 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.520 down the street. They get to come to the practices, 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:24.600 you know, hopefully close to the games, and it's just 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.439 like I said, a dream come true and surreal moment 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.320 for everyone in my family. And you know, if you're 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.440 a hometown kid, you know what's better than playing for 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:32.160 the hometown team. 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.360 You know what was surreal for the media was when 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.679 we realized you were nine when the Cardinals made the 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.840 Super Bowl run. So that was a reality check for 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.160 a lot of us around here. That's middle aged guys. 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.679 So but what do you remember from the Super Bowl 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:47.480 running and who was your guy? Did you have a 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:48.719 favorite player back then? 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:53.120 My favorite player was Fitzgerald for sure, And honestly, the 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.560 memories from that game was just heart wrenching. I can't lie. 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.320 I was actually watching it with my family at another 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.880 family who was a Steelers fan, so it was one 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:07.079 of those like everyone's cheering, I'm like heartbroken at James 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.280 Harrison running back, you know, right, an interception one hundred yards. 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.640 But you know, those memories stick with me forever. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.560 And did you ever ask your folks later, wait a minute, 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.720 why did we watch Super Bowl forty three at the 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:19.160 home of a Steelers family? 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:23.000 What's I should have ran that question by them in 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.880 the first place, But I think at that moment, I 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.760 was just thinking about the free food and that's that's right. 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:29.360 I did it. 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:29.760 That's right. 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.600 The trips and salsa was good, so you know, I 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.760 mean so, so let me ask you this. You talked about, Okay, 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.480 your hometown team, it's surreal, your family's emotional. But then 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:41.480 not only that, but you got the call from the 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:46.720 Cardinals from your position coach at ASU previously, Rob Rodriguez. 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:49.200 Right, yep, yep, yep. A great relationship with him. Obviously 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.640 was with him the last I believe it's three three 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:55.080 to four years at Arizona State. I had a great 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.240 relationship with him. You know, we worked closely together, so 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.440 getting the call from him was actually a really special 0:14:59.520 --> 0:14:59.960 moment for me. 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.840 And the connection also goes to the local pro day 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.440 where he was already a member of the Cardinals' staff. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.120 In fact, defensive coordinator Nick Rawlis was talking about the 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.800 benefit of that with Kyle at linebacker. 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.040 We had the privilege of he was here at the 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.080 local pro day, and so it was really good to 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.720 be able to see him in person and work with him. 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.960 You can undervalue that ability, that interaction of when you're 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.720 on the field, right, And so not only did we 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.520 get to see the skill set, the movement skills, but 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.320 we also got to see kind of the leadership and 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:32.120 the work ethic. 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:33.000 Yeah. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.480 I was gonna say, you know, the whole draft process, right, 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.040 it's inaccurate at best. I mean, think about it, right, 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:40.520 I mean the forty nine ers right now have the 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.200 number three pick overall at quarterback and Trey Lance, but 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.360 they're starting the last pick in the draft last year 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.280 at brock Purty. Okay, so there's there's a high degree 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.200 of difficulty in trying to forecast. What do you think 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:54.200 Rob Rodriguez in particular knows about your game that maybe 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.520 the thirty one other teams just can't because they never 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:57.440 coached you before. 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.920 Well, he's seen me work, like you know, Coach Rolla said, 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:02.800 And I think you know, when you see me work, 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:06.320 it stands out for me that the opportunity was just 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.520 important that they got to see, you know, like they said, 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.560 the skill set on the field, and just how I 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.360 am around my teammates. I'm the type of guy. I'm 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.480 not going to be loud and flashy, but I like 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.240 to get the work in, you know. I think that's 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.560 what separates myself and I enjoy being around my teammates 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.440 and my guys, and I'm willing to do whatever I 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.160 can to help the team win, and I think that's 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:24.840 most important. 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.000 Cardinals rookie Kyle Solely is our guest here in the 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.360 Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. Inside 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:34.680 linebacker the position itself, how would you describe it to me? 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.400 It's like you're at the epicenter of all the chaos, right. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.200 It's almost like like a game of paintball. Right, they 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.760 say go and it's just mayhem everywhere. That's what I 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:44.480 think of when I watch from the sideline and I 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:45.720 see inside linebacker. 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:48.440 You have to be versatile, you have to have a 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.680 high football IQ. I think people often forget it's the 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.600 quarterback of the defense. You've got to be smart, and 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.360 you know, you got to one get your guys up 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:58.880 front of line, and you got to know what's going 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.480 on in the back end with the dB. So you're 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.200 kind of that middle point, that mesh point, you know, 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.920 between the defense and you kind of wear the cap 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.080 you like I said, quarterback of the defense. You got 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.399 to know everything that's going on, and you must be 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.840 versatile and you got to have a hard nose for 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:13.800 the football. 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.320 Because all these talent evaluators they want to measure what 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.920 they can measure, right, and your speed and all these 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:19.760 three cone. 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:19.840 And all that. 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:21.960 But how many times do you make a play just 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.119 based on your brain sh. 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:26.479 I would say probably more times than not. 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:28.719 It allows you to get the first step, and if 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.960 you can anticipate plays, that'll help you know, jump a snap, 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.000 maybe jump a route. There's a lot of different things 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:36.320 that it can help you with. And that just comes 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.280 with film study. And like I said, football IQ, and I. 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.360 Realized Nolan's and pads. All right, there's no full contact, 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.480 full speed football yet. But what have you picked up 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.320 just watching Kaizer White for example, a veteran in the 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:49.119 mic linebacker. 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:51.879 Just how to go about your business as a professional. 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.480 I think that's been the biggest thing for me, how 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.720 to go out and work every day and work at 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:58.760 the highest level and just be efficient with your work. 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.160 And you know, it's a great, great guy to look after, 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.159 a great person to model your game after. And everything 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.240 I can do to learn from Kay's year, it's been. 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:07.920 It's been a great opportunity for me as. 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.200 You got older and you're here in the valley. Which 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.639 inside linebackers did you admire or follow? Because when I 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.800 see fifty eight on an inside linebacker, I can't help 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:17.160 thinking about Carlos Stansby. 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:18.400 He was a great one. 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:18.680 People. 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.359 I will say, yeah, you know, I watched a lot 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:23.440 of a lot of games with him at linebacker in 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:26.159 at fifty A and I'll be sure to you know, 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.480 wear that with pride and you know, thinking about him. 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.960 But I would say Luke Keigley was a big, big one. 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.800 And then also my previous you know, linebacker coach Arizona State, 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.119 Antonio Pierce, watched a lot of his tape growing up. 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.520 So those are those are some guys I modeled my 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:39.960 game after. 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.439 Those guys could play, no doubt about it. So has 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.760 Jonathan Gann. It held you accountable yet and I bring 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.000 it up because Zavion told a story. He walks into 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:51.159 the first team meeting, He's got his little bowl eggs, 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:52.800 he's eating his breakfast, and then he got put on 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:56.760 blast for a multitasking. We've had other guys. We had 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.680 count ingram in here last week said, oh yeah, JG's 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:01.479 yelled to me a couple of times and you know, 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.040 or tested me. How about you? How's that going so far? 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.720 Yeah, I've definitely been tested. I think it was the 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.680 second meeting we had, and you know, he just brought 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:11.560 up something in the playbook and kind of caught me 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:15.280 on the spot in the moment. He kind of got me, 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.359 and I'm not gonna lie. It was a learning moment 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:18.840 for me, kind of one of those rookie moments. I 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.040 always be on your toes and I'll never forget it. 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:22.760 So he definitely got me. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:24.840 What does that do to the vibe in a team 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.600 meeting when everyone has to be on point right? 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.560 Yeah, I think it just keeps everyone on their toes 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.520 and you understand, you know, you're in a professional environment, 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.040 you're at work. When you're in the building, it's time 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.919 to go. And I appreciate that aspect from him and 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.199 you know, it's a good thing for rookies to learn quickly. 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:44.840 How often have you heard the two words winning behavior 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.000 from Jonathan Gannet Because I know there's not a ton 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.719 you can accomplish this time of year, but it really 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.600 seems like he's got a few checkpoints in terms of 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.880 establishing a culture in this building. 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.600 I've heard it from him quite a bit, but honestly, 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.560 I think that's the best way to describe what he wants, 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.400 winning behavior, And I think, you know, I've never heard 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:06.720 that from a coach before, but I think that's the 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.240 correct term for it. You know, there's certain things, little 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:13.879 details that all add up to becoming winning behavior, and 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:15.520 that's something I'll take with me probably for the rest 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:15.960 of my life. 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:17.680 And I appreciate that point by him. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.879 Kyle Solely is our guest Cardinals rookie inside linebacker. So 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:25.000 next stop is Cardinals training camp. In the preseason games, 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.800 what are you most curious to find out about the 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:30.840 NFL game itself once the full pads go on. 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.240 I'm curious to test the physicality, you know, playing linebacker, 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.760 it's obviously a physical position. When we're running around with 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:43.320 jerseys and helmets, you can't really feel that physicality yet, 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.320 so once we put the pads on, I'm really curious 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.280 to see how that is. And you know, just play 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:49.760 football at the end of the day, That's what it 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:51.520 comes down to, and I'm just excited to get out 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:52.680 there on the grass and play football. 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.360 What do you hope you've shown the coaches so far? 0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:00.320 Versatility? I hope that I showed I do have like 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:03.440 you and I can manage the huddle. Playing Mike linebacker, 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:05.560 it's important to manage the huddle and be able to 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.000 make the correct checks and be on your toes at 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:09.800 all times because you know, if he wants to go 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:11.600 hurry up, you got to be ready and get your 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:14.280 guys lined up because you know you're responsible for ten 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:15.080 other teammates. 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:15.960 So that's important. 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:18.240 When you say versatility, you're talking about playing the mic, 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:20.800 playing the will or are you talking run versus pass 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:21.800 and being a three down. 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:23.000 Backer run versus pass? 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.840 Ability to you know, cover down outside the box, play 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:28.800 in the box. You know, just be versatile on the field. 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.480 Don't allow teams to kind of iso you one on one. 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.240 What's your confidence level like right now? Have you seen 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:36.920 enough to know, okay, I can hang in this league? 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:39.800 I don't think I've seen enough. You know, I still 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:42.280 have a lot to learn, and every day I try 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:45.200 to keep that mindset. And you know, we haven't played 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:48.080 a full game yet, so I don't even think I'm near, 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:50.320 you know, to the point where like, okay, I feel 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:53.840 like I'm I made it. So just every day being 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:55.359 a learner and just trying to do the best I 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:56.000 can to get better. 0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:57.520 And I think that's the most important. 0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:59.400 About this playbook. If there was a game tomorrow, could 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:00.560 you call this defense? 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:03.520 I feel confident in that. I do feel really confident. 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.480 And you did that your last two or three years 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:06.560 a day issue. 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:10.760 Honestly, four the last four years, last four years for sure. 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:13.720 Because I'm seeing here you played fifty three games over 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:14.439 five years. 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:14.840 Mm hmm. 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.760 I mean that's almost exactly for example, what a rock party. 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:19.720 Played, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could say that. 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:23.240 I mean, there's got to be a level of preparation 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:25.520 that you feel that maybe a lot of rookies don't. 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:27.920 You could say that. 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:31.800 Honestly, my mindset just going into everything has just always 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:34.240 stemmed from, you know, what I learned in college in 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:36.600 terms of just know every position, because if you know 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:38.800 every position, you're gonna feel more comfortable out there, and 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:40.639 you're gonna be able to not only help yourself, but 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:42.520 help your teammates if they you know, once the bolts 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:45.920 start flying. So I try to take that mindset every 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:48.359 day when I come into work and just grow from that. 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.480 So players, no players, Kyle Solis, our guest Cardinals rookie. 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:53.679 When you watch either side of the ball, is there 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.560 a certain player who stands out? You're like, man, that 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:59.439 guy's inn NFL dude, that guy has skills. Is there 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:00.919 anybody's really stood out to you? 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:04.680 I would say Hollywood Brown with his quickness and his 0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:07.280 quick twitch. That's one guy for sure. I would also 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:10.800 say Michael Wilson, the rookie. He's been making plays and 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.520 practice that. You know, I'm saying, you know, he's catching 0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:15.600 my eye and I'm tipping my cap to him. So, 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:17.520 but I think once we put the pads on, it's 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.919 going to start. You know, the real players will show up. 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:22.720 Then you're as an Arizona guy. When you heard the rookies, 0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:24.680 like in early May say, man, it's hot out here, 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.400 did you laugh like laugh and knowing laugh Like, oh man, 0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:28.480 you guys have no idea. 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.240 I t I try my best to warn that, you know, 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.920 I tell of listen, you can't over a hydrate here. 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:34.960 It's not possible. 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:37.200 So just make sure if you think you're drinking enough, 0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:38.359 you're having a little bit more. 0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:39.160 It's good. 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:41.360 Well, look, it's been an introduction in the NFL. You've 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:44.440 also had some field trips right the bowling you have 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:45.400 then go cards. 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.200 Yeah, we've had some fun and we've also got to 0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:50.280 see other people's skill set off the fields. 0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:53.200 We look forward to it, Kyle, next stop training. Can't 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:53.760 appreciate it. 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:54.840 Thank you appreciate it. 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:56.880 Back right after this on the Big Red. 0:23:56.760 --> 0:24:05.400 Rage back to Pasco's Dalton. On first down buyers over 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:07.200 the middle, the ball is tipped into the air. 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:09.680 To pick off of the thirty yard line running left, 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.280 and it's funny Marco Wilson to the ted. 0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.880 He high steps and then he doesn't flip into the. 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.120 Ends up of the touchdown. Marco Wilson with a pick 0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:22.080 six Pavia Cardinals take the lane twenty to fourteen. 0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:27.000 Boy, did you see Marco Wilson elevate on that dude 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:28.760 that touchdown slip. 0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:33.439 What was kind of funny is they're showing the camerangle 0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:36.359 of Andy Dalton being upset and in the background you 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:40.040 can see Wilson launch it into the air like it's 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:41.639 just part of the background. 0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:43.480 It looks quite humorous. 0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:45.600 That was an all time meme, no doubt about it. 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.080 You guys are reacting in real time. Dave pash Ron Woefully. 0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:50.320 It's a big red rage presented by santan Ford and 0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:53.639 Gilbert We are santan Ford special. Thanks Kyle Solely, Cardinals 0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:57.560 rookie linebacker. He has been held accountable by Jonathan Gannon. 0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:01.560 Imagine that. So that was interesting. But Wolf, if I 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:03.880 if you had to give me one memory something that's 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:07.000 really just indelible in your memory bank from last season, 0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:10.640 wouldn't it have to be that TV low angle shot 0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.240 of Andy Dalton after he threw the pick six and 0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:17.600 then behind him is an airborne Marco Wilson baulting into 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:18.160 the end zone. 0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:21.879 Paully, there's no tough about it. It's one of the best. 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:24.720 It was turned into a meme. Yes, it was turned 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.320 into a meme. Man, It was just the best one 0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.600 that I think I've ever seen. The look on Andy 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:36.640 Dalton's face walking off with the flipping Marco Wilson behind him. Man, 0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.200 you just can't make that up ball that was. 0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:43.080 So good, Just stupid athleticism by Marco Wilson. You realize 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.720 you're in the NFL when you see something like that, right, 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.800 not just the play, but the finish. So Jonathan Gannon, 0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.560 speaking of the Cardinals new head coach, he has a 0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.680 lot of history coaching defensive backs and one of the 0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.600 big questions right now, what does that cornerback depth chart 0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:01.119 look like? We figure Marco Wilson is we don't know 0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:05.359 for sure. As for expectations of the position group, here's 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:06.000 the head coach. 0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:07.120 We ask a. 0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.119 Lot of our corners, you know, with the different coverage 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.560 structures that we play and things like that, like the 0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:15.040 days of having a corner that doesn't know what's going on, 0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:15.760 that's not here. 0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.080 No, you got to prove you can be trusted, especially 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:22.440 as a cornerback, because a blown coverage guess what, it's 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:25.480 not like a defensive lineman maybe blowing an assignment and 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.720 there's a big hole in the B gap. No, you 0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:30.600 blow an assignment as a corner and guess what, it's 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.399 most likely six points. So A, you have to be 0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:36.000 trusted by the coaches and then b guess what you're 0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.160 gonna have to show them you can play. So how 0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.720 do you read the room, that cornerback room as we 0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:41.439 go into campbell. 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:43.679 Yeah, you know what, Paul, I think it does. It 0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:47.359 all starts with Marco Wilson, of course, and this guy, 0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.119 I really do believe he's going to take a huge 0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:53.720 step forward a couple of seasons now. And I remember 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:57.919 going into training camp last training camp, the coaching staff 0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:00.600 was looking at Marco Wilson with a johndice that were 0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:03.960 waiting for him to actually make that leap, take that 0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:08.000 next step forward, and I think he did ultimately during 0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:11.640 that season. Marco Wilson's got good size. He's five to eleven. 0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.000 It's not like Marco Wilson is a five to nine 0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:17.240 corner out there. He's five eleven. He's got good size, 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:21.040 the athleticism is there, He's got everything you need to 0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:24.240 be a very very good corner in this league. PAULI. 0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.080 That's why I think it's important Marco Wilson from day 0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:31.439 one of training camp takes that next step forward and 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:33.440 truly does become CB one. 0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.560 And you know what, that's a great recollection because you're 0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.000 right by the end of camp it was Byron Murphy one. 0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:44.040 Antonio Hamilton two. Yes, Antonio Hamilton had the tragic cooking 0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.639 accident where he poured hot grease on his feet and 0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.240 he missed the first month of the season. So Marco 0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:53.760 Wilson as a default starter, really got those reps early, 0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:55.919 and to your point, he made progress throughout the season. 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:59.920 But Antonio Hamilton is back on this roster. A sobering 0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.040 moment for Antonio he shared with the media when he 0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:05.480 realized he's older than his defensive coordinator. He's thirty one. 0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:09.120 Nick Rollis is about to turn thirty and speaking of coaching, 0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:12.159 here's Antonio Hamilton, the veteran corner. 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.960 It's a little different, but they have such a great 0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:17.720 understanding of it, and I think that they can tell 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.360 you what it is. The reason why we're doing it 0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.320 is just to give you that full fledged understanding of 0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:26.720 just not running cover three like you understand the principles 0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:28.840 of why we're running and doing it like this. 0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:32.200 A lot of those guys in that defensive backfield Wolf 0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.680 talking about how different it is, you know, Jalen Thompson said, 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.000 in some ways, actually they're going to be allowed to 0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:41.400 play a little more free than under vance. Joseph which 0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.480 I found intriguing. He didn't really define it exactly, but 0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:47.200 I do think this coaching seven both sides of the 0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:49.640 ball is going to try and simplify things a little bit, 0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:50.560 at least out of the gate. 0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.840 Well. It's interesting because when you listen to JG and 0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.280 what he said right there, he's talking about corner. It's 0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.600 not a position any longer that you can just put 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:01.560 somebody out there that has great athleticism. It used to 0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:05.120 be a situation where you know a guy and I'm 0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:08.840 just being as open and transparent as I can here, 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:10.720 but it used to be a situation stick a guy 0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:12.520 out there. He really didn't have to know a whole 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.520 lot of what you were doing. It was basically cover 0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:17.760 the guy in front of you. Right right there, you 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.080 got him in man. Cover. We're playing an awful lot 0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.760 of man cover him in man. That's your job, that's 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.320 your assignment. Right there, You've got the number one receiver. 0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.480 Depending on the formation, of course, and depending on the 0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:31.680 personnel grouping, you've got the number one receiver. Cover them. 0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:35.600 That's what you do right there. It's not like that anymore, 0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.640 and it's not a surprise with all the advanced schemes 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.479 that the NFL have gone to now and what they're running. 0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.240 It's not like they've got brand new schemes. Paul. You 0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.560 heard him mentioned Cover three right there, that's three deep 0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:51.840 four underneath rush four. That is really taken over the 0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:57.800 National Football League. It's incredible to see the way that 0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:02.400 it has taken over. And everyone's got their own rules 0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:06.479 as to how and why you jump a route or 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:10.520 jump a receiver based on that Cover three scheme. See, 0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:14.000 that's something that Bill Belichick has done for years. Cover two, Polly, 0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.800 everybody runs Cover two. You got two safeties high, you 0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:21.240 got five underneath, you rush for right there. Everybody runs it. 0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:24.640 What makes it different is what you tell the guys 0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:27.360 that are in the zone rooms what they should be 0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.400 looking for, and how they react to what they're looking for. 0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.600 That's what makes it different. And Bill Belichick was a 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:37.880 master at making his Cover two different from somebody else's 0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:40.800 Cover two. Well, the same thing I think is going 0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.760 to apply here. The Cardinals are going to play man cover, 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:46.960 there's no doubt about that. But this Cover three scheme 0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:50.080 as well is a big part of what they do. Now, 0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:54.560 how you teach it, that's JG. His fingerprints are all over. 0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:57.720 That and ultimately who plays it in that secondary Marco Wilson, 0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:01.880 Antonio Hamilton, Christian Matthew, the seventh rounder last year, a 0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.840 couple of veteran journeymen Nate Harriston, Rashot Fenn, a couple 0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.600 of rookies, Key Troll. Clark was impressed so far. You 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:09.800 figured Garrett Williams the third round, when he's back from 0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.600 the knee injury, he'll be in the mix. But you're right, 0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.760 you get to week one against Washington, for example, are 0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.959 you sending Marco Wilson to shadow and travel with Pro 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:22.760 Bowl receiver Terry McLaurin. Don't know, not exactly sure. They'll 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.080 probably mix up coverage is what a lot of teams do. 0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:28.320 But Jonathan gan and again has a lot of experience 0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:31.000 with this position group, and he was just asked, all right, 0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.600 what do the cornerbacks need to have in your defense? 0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.080 So they got to be smart, know what's going on, 0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.479 and know why calls are being called, where's the stress 0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:41.040 and the strength of each call, and then be able 0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:42.840 to line up and deny the ball on the highway, 0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:44.480 which that's a lonely world out there. 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:46.920 A couple of weeks ago, well, me and you were 0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:50.200 able to talk to Manti asifor New Cardinals GM, and 0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.240 we asked him about a couple of position groups where 0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.840 maybe there's a lot to be determined. Cornerback might be 0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:58.440 atop that power pole, and he said, well, look, we're 0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:00.640 throwing numbers at it right now, and sure enough, I 0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:04.360 just counted up. There are a dozen cornerbacks on the 0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:08.000 roster coming out of mandatory mini camp. So, man, the 0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.600 competition is on and the back end of that room 0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:12.080 could be anybody at this point. 0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:15.240 Yeah, Pauly, you know, it's also interesting there are some 0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.480 corners that are still out there as free agents. Paul. 0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.600 There are some guys that are still Marcus Peters. Does 0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:24.040 that peak your interest? 0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:25.920 Right, So you've been doing some homework, You've been looking 0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:26.560 at who's out there. 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.760 Okay, I still, Paul, I still have this feeling. Bryce 0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.280 Callahan is also out there. Now. I understand that he's 0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.160 thirty one years old. I understand Marcus Peters is thirty 0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.480 years old. But these are guys that were starters in 0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:44.720 the National Football League and injuries have really beat down 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.760 Bryce Callahan a little bit right here, and you could 0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:50.960 say the same for Marcus Peters. But I think their 0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.440 experience would make them very very appealing, and I think 0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.160 you could also get them at a very good rate. 0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:59.640 You could get them and it wouldn't break the bank. 0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.680 That would be something that I would keep my ant 0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:06.000 kind of open to do. I think the Arizona Cardinals 0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.520 need to go out and get these guys. No, I 0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.360 don't think they need to do that. But once again, 0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.560 I think that this roster is going to be very, 0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.680 very fluid, and I also think JG is going to 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.640 open the entire roster up to competition. 0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.080 You know, the other thing that maniac Safort told us 0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.760 was that he's maybe not as apt to sign someone 0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.400 right before camp or early in camp as to wait 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:31.440 for the waiver claims at the end of NFL training 0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.640 camps where teams set their final fifty three and some 0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:38.160 experienced corners might hit the open market. Now it might 0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:39.800 be one of those guys you just cited, and then 0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:41.600 that could be logical. Here's the other thing. You have 0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:44.480 a joint practice set, in fact, two of them against 0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.200 the Vikings. So if you get a sense of your 0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:51.600 corners against the Vikings receivers led by Justin Jefferson, you go, 0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:53.800 you know what we need a need. We have a need, 0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:56.600 we need some experience in here. And by the way, 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.480 the Minnesota Vikings announced that on August twenty third, twenty 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:02.360 four joint practices, those are going to be open to 0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.440 the public. So Wolf, it is like, so on right, 0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:09.920 everybody's gonna be watching Cardinals and Vikings in a joint practice. 0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.719 Oh my goodness, right there. So I'm thinking that the 0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:14.680 twenty third is a Wednesday, is it not? 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:15.400 Yep? 0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.200 Okay, Okay, the twenty third, Polly, that's gonna be the 0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.719 greasy one. That's gonna be the one right there that 0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.040 I unless I miss my guest here, that is going 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.640 to be a Wednesday. That probably is gonna be full pads, 0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:31.520 full gear right there. If you are somebody who lives 0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.480 up there in Minnesota, if you are somebody that loves 0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.719 the NFL, if you want to take a summer trip, Okay, 0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.040 if you are living here in Arizona and you want 0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:42.960 to take a summer trip, I would say go up 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:46.880 to Minnesota and watch that practice, because that's gonna be 0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.719 the physical one. That's gonna be the greasy one. And 0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.880 what makes it even better with the news you just 0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:54.960 said it's going to be open to the public, and 0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:59.440 that means everybody's gonna be watching every individual drill, not 0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.279 just the guy your room, not just the guys that 0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.640 are at your position, but everybody is going to be 0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.839 watching your one on one as you're trying to beat 0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.719 a corner on a slam. 0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:15.080 Hopefully we'll be coming from Larry's place henor Larry Fitzgerald's lakehouse. 0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:17.000 Hopefully we'll be hanging out at Larry's with his cruise 0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.560 right over to the joint practice. We'll see by the way, 0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:24.640 Cardinals Camp first open practice July twenty seventh, First padded 0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:28.800 practice July thirty first. 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All right, 0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.719 we'll come back and talk about an all timer in 0:35:54.760 --> 0:36:00.200 Cardinals history when we return on the Big Red Rage. 0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:02.960 This is everything that you hoped it was going to be. 0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:06.239 You look out here at University of Phoenix Stadium and 0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:09.920 just see the passion and to feel the energy that 0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:13.040 is in this building right now. This is what playoff 0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:14.479 football is all about at. 0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:15.080 The beginning of the year. 0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:16.520 This is what everybody signs up for. 0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:19.320 I mean, sixteen regular season games with the promise to 0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.080 get to the playoffs. And it's just one of those 0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:22.959 things that I mean, you suck it up, you play 0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.800 off adrenaline and hopefully we'll be sitting on a parade 0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:27.640 float in downtown Phoenix. 0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:32.960 That is Clarkhagans, heck of a player, all time personality 0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:36.839 in recent Cardinals history, a guy who knew a thing 0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:40.400 or two about the NFL postseason, won oring two thousand 0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:44.160 and five with the Pittsburgh Steelers when he started opposite 0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:48.239 his college teammate at Colorado State, Joey Porter for the Steelers. 0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:51.359 Think about that, and then think about the news we 0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:53.560 received this week as we wrap with this edition to 0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:56.360 the Big Red Rage presented by Santan ford In Gilbert 0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:59.480 Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley, and I know I speak for 0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:01.680 both of us when we were shocked to learn that 0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:04.319 Clark Hagens that were now speaking of him in the 0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:08.200 past tense. He has passed away aged forty six. There 0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.160 was no cause of death given, and it was a 0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:15.080 thirteen year career and so many memories right the four 0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.399 seasons he spent with the Cardinals Wolf, including one edition 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.080 of this show that honestly might have been the funniest 0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.200 top to bottom edition of The Big Red Rage ever. 0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.000 It was two thousand and eight early that season with 0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:30.239 bertrand Bury and Clark Hags was so hilarious during that 0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:33.799 show and so vibrant is a personality. I mean, the 0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:37.120 energy was just just palpable every time he ran into. 0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:39.839 Him, No no doubt about it, Paulie. It truly was 0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:43.640 who Clark Hagen's was and what he was all about. 0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:47.360 And you say memories, Paulie, I think of man, I 0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:50.440 think of what a good football player. He was not 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:54.480 only a funny individual and a very smart guy, but 0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.640 a very good football player. He didn't lose a lot 0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:01.440 of physical battles on the football. He didn't and those 0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:05.680 that he he did lose, he walked through. For the 0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:09.680 most part. He was very very tough, very resilient. He 0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:14.239 enjoyed the physicality of the game as well, and just 0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:18.160 a smart guy overall. Clark haagens it's hard for me, Paulie. 0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.880 I know it is for you as well to imagine 0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:24.000 him no longer with us at the age of forty six. 0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:28.120 We're gonna go back into the archives and here's an 0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:31.440 episode of Wired All Access. He was wearing a microphone. 0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.200 It was against Seattle. It was two thousand and nine. 0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:37.600 I think you can really hear how Clarkhagan's was equal 0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:43.520 parts intense and equal parts entertaining. I'm having some fun. 0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:47.239 It's all about playing, tackling, hitting people, just being loud 0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:47.760 and crazy. 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:49.000 Hey, let's go. 0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.200 You just gotta be ready always. 0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:52.480 Castlebec takes five step drop. 0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:54.600 He's in trouble and the ball comes out as he 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:58.080 got sacked and the Cardinals have it robles on it. 0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:05.120 Twenty three. D oh, no, let's go, let's stop, let's 0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:05.520 go out. 0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:08.399 Well, I just came off the corner and hassled back, 0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:11.000 held the ball and I saw I think it was 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.800 Colais fall, so I tried to just go airborne to 0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.400 do the superfly. Jimmy Snook at old school. 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:20.600 W w e, oh, little children, we're playing against little children. 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:21.200 We're fast. 0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:24.400 Everybody's athletic, and we just like to fly around to 0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:31.440 the ball. No work, no work, pushing three kaboc and 0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:36.560 cost some turnovers, get some sacks, some interceptions. 0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:42.719 Oh no, let's go. 0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:46.080 Just keep playing like just wild frenzy and just have 0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.760 a lot of fun doing it. You've been wired into 0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:51.239 Clark Haigns. 0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:54.560 Just being down on the sideline during his career. I 0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:57.160 was furred up just watching Clark Kagans. He was in 0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.560 phenomenal shape. Used to crush camelback. I mean just he 0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:03.319 would beat the entire team up there when they'd have 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.319 the rookies take that hike with old strength, quotes John Lott. 0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:08.120 And then his story is like the one he told 0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:10.360 on the Big Red Rage, that one time Wolf about Halloween. 0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:13.879 He loved Halloween, loved the candy, loved dressing up. Told 0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.040 the story in Pittsburgh. He got the cops called on 0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.120 him once because he dressed up in a real Spider 0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:21.600 Man outfit and then started running and vaulting through people's backyards. 0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:26.280 Who's this guy, you know, Pully? And so it's amazing 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.840 you say that because Clark Haagen's was all of six four. 0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:32.080 He was six ' four he was two hundred and 0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:35.400 forty five pounds. I think Paully somewhere in there. But 0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:38.839 this guy had to have what five percent body fat 0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:39.200 on him. 0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:39.799 Believable. 0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:41.880 So when you say when you say you know he 0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:45.919 loved Halloween, which he did, love to dress up, loved 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.480 doing it. But when you say Spider Man, he was 0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.200 in the Spider Man outfit, to me, it makes me 0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:56.600 laugh because Clark could have he pulled that off. Hundred 0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:59.360 and forty five pounds. He pulled that off because he 0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:01.719 didn't have a rite a fat on him. 0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:03.960 The two thousand and eight year, by the way, he 0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:06.879 suffered that foot injury in mid December, but he's still 0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:10.080 such a vocal leader. As the Cardinals made that Super 0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:12.680 Bowl run, he wound up his career forty six and 0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.919 a half career sacks, thirteen year career, still the all 0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:19.600 time sack leader in Colorado state history. Once again, Clark 0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:22.479 Kagan's passes away at the age of forty six, much 0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:25.879 too soon, and no cause of death has been given yet. 0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:28.080 We're gonna go in the next three weeks, by the way, 0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.960 Wolf into the Cardinals archives. We're gonna have some special 0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:34.919 Cardinals folk tales editions of The Big Red Rage. In order, 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:37.440 we're gonna have Thanks Coach, right, Dennis Green and the 0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:43.120 famous rant Monday night meltdown, legendary locker. This is can't 0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:46.480 miss radio Pat Tillman, the story of Pat Tillman. And 0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.680 we've all seen the statue out of the stadium. But 0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:53.719 the Cardinals have another museum piece and it's locker. His 0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:57.000 locker was saved from the wrecking ball, literally, and that 0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.719 is inside Cardinals headquarters. We'll talk all about that. And 0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:01.680 then the Miracle in the Desert. This is where the 0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.080 Cardinals knocked the Vikings from the playoffs. We all remember 0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.920 that resulted in losing the number one pick in the 0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.960 two thousand and four draft. But all this Shakespearean tragedy 0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.680 of Miracle in the Desert, the Cardinals knocking the Vikings 0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:14.680 out of the playoffs the next three weeks on the 0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:15.440 Big Red Rage. 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.279 No, that sounds really really good, right there, boy. The 0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:23.720 Thanks Coach that is that's got my attention immediately right there, Pauli, 0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:28.080 and you bring up Tilman's locker. That that right there 0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:32.440 saved by our own Jim Omahundro, the best game day 0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:37.560 producer in the history of mankind, and it's incredible to 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.000 hear that story. I think a lot of people listening 0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:43.240 right now you want to hear that folk tale because 0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:48.400 it specifically is hardcore history with the Arizona Cardinals, and 0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:50.000 it deals with Pat Tillman. 0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.120 And especially now being on the verge of training camp 0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:55.040 because Wolf we were there when Pat Tillman was a 0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:58.440 seventh round pick. Even he admitted that he thinks the 0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:01.239 Cardinals drafted him just for the mark purposes because he 0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.799 was such a personality, such a celebrity, a star at 0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:06.520 Arizona State. He was the Pack ten defensive player of 0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:08.880 the year. He was a media darling, right, and so 0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.799 he came out and he earned himself a spot out 0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:15.239 of the I mean, he was a long shot to 0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.480 make that roster as a tweener, and not only did 0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:19.719 he make the roster, but he was an integral part 0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:21.880 of a team that ended up winning its first playoff 0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:23.280 game in nearly a half century. 0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:25.799 Yeah, and you got to remember, too, here's a guy 0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:29.200 that was poised to sign his second contract. Here's a 0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:35.239 guy that was succeeding at the NFL level, a guy that, yeah, 0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:38.000 didn't come in with a lot of fanfare. It was local, 0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:41.120 of course because of ASU, but nationally didn't come in 0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:44.520 with a lot of fanfare and suddenly just became a 0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:49.239 legendary figure to the entire country, not just Arizona, but 0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.480 the entire country and Pat Tillman. Paully, we had the 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:56.760 benefit of actually getting to know Pat Tillman a little 0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.920 bit and it left an indelible mark on his ball, 0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:01.640 if I believe no doubt. 0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.759 By the way, happy birthday today to Kurt Warner. It 0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:07.920 is his birthday. And as we one last thought, I'm 0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:09.840 gonna give you wolf as we go into training camp 0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:14.000 twenty twenty three. You know your former coach Bill Belichick 0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:17.840 and his famous phrase no days off. Yes, I think 0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:19.759 by the time we're done with camp and we get 0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.560 the final fifty three, the phrase is going to be 0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:27.719 no allegiances. I'm real curious to see who makes this 0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:31.480 team and who doesn't make this team because you have 0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:34.360 new decision makers and the head coach, Jonathan Gannon and 0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:39.319 the GM moniasin port no allegiances. What does that mean 0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:42.520 once they get going on July twenty seventh. 0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:45.319 Boy, that means to me, Paully, somebody can make a 0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:48.759 team and practice and how you practice. 0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:52.040 Interesting single game tickets on sale now. Get Easycardinals dot 0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:55.120 com slash buy tickets to secure your seats today. Special 0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:58.919 thanks as always Kyle Soley, Cardinals rookie inside linebacker, Jim 0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:03.120 Omahundra Executive producer, Cody Fincher, Technical director on Paul calveyc 0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:06.600 Ron Wolfley. You can now wear your cowboy hat for 0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.920 the next three weeks. Although I will say Dion Sanders 0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:11.880 looks better in a cowboy hat than you. 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