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Speaker 5: Who knows what's gonna happen next? I mean, life is

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Speaker 5: just a series of ifs, is it not? Look at

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Speaker 5: the last twenty four hours. If Elon Musk can challenge

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Speaker 5: Mark Zuckerberg to a cage match, and the Facebook CEO

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Speaker 5: If Corbin Carrol the d Backs can score from first

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Speaker 5: be joined by Kyle Soley, the Cardinals rookie from ASU, Paul,

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Speaker 2: There, what's going on, Paulie? How you doing well?

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Speaker 5: The off season is over, wolf next stop training camp?

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Speaker 2: You know, Polly, it's interesting because the due point is

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Speaker 2: know if you happen to notice, Paul, fifty three. As

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Speaker 2: a matter of fact, when it gets to fifty five degrees, Paul,

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Speaker 2: the due point three days in a row. It's truly

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Speaker 2: monsoon season. Will that happen? When will that happen? I

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Speaker 2: When I feel the due point coming up here in

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Speaker 2: the basin, PAULI I immediately think of football, and I

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Speaker 5: Well, it can't come soon enough, because all I see

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Speaker 5: we go, Cardinals, coming off the off season, brand new

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Speaker 5: new head coach was asked, where does the team stand

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Speaker 8: At a point there in the offseason, I felt like

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Speaker 8: now at the end of Mini Camp and a lot

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Speaker 5: Just to tad two words. We've heard plenty of wolf

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Speaker 5: and it's a favorite phrase of Jonathan Gannon winning behavior.

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Speaker 5: It either is or it isn't. And he's trying to

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Speaker 5: check those boxes of accountability, attention to detail, all out

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Speaker 5: effort all the time. These are all things you can control.

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Speaker 5: We have no idea what's going to happen in camp.

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Speaker 5: We have no idea what's gonna happen this season. I

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right, Polly. And when you're talking about behavior

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Speaker 2: It's what we do and how we do it. How

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Speaker 5: And I'll give you a real life example. You tell

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals are the most penalized team. Right They had

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Speaker 5: how did the off season start with the owner? The

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Speaker 5: And guess what, I think that's the path they've tried

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Speaker 2: And you know what, poly honestly, just to continue to

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Speaker 2: Once again, when I talk about what we do and

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Speaker 2: That's what you do first. And how you do it.

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Speaker 2: eat inside that meeting. That is the discipline. That's where discipline,

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Speaker 2: team discipline starts, Paulie. And if you're talking about team discipline,

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Speaker 5: That's my hashtag that I live by. But I will

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Speaker 5: Because if you're talking about position groups and where they

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Speaker 5: I'd say, d line is up there, cornerback is up there,

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Speaker 5: maybe center, tight end. What's your gut feeling do you think,

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Speaker 5: Manti asin Ford is this still a work in progress

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Speaker 5: in what degree?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, it is a work in progress right now.

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Speaker 2: I think we're going to have a lot of veteran

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Speaker 2: back to what you were saying about Zavon Collins and

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Speaker 2: Zavon Collins being on the edge. Once again, if you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in almost six five, two sixty, Yeah, Yeah, I'd

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Speaker 2: Yeh, that's exactly right, Paully. That's what everybody would say,

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Speaker 2: that guy's playing on the edge. It was an anomaly

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Speaker 2: that he was a Mike linebacker. When you think about it,

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Speaker 2: Brian Urlacker was a big, tall Mike linebacker. Okay, Jack Lambert,

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Speaker 5: And look, I can give you all these storylines that

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Speaker 5: Jonathan Ganning. Before kicking off a quick summer vacation, was

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Speaker 8: Well, see long way to go, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: And he's doing a good job improving his game every

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Speaker 5: He's engaged, and look, we don't know. That's the honest answer.

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Speaker 5: Could he be back right away in September? Sure, Could

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Speaker 5: he be back in October? Absolutely, we just don't know.

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Speaker 5: What we do know is when he gets back Wolf,

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it, Bully, and that is That's why,

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Speaker 2: once again, in a gross simplification of the truth, you're

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Speaker 2: looking at a year that most people believe is going

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Speaker 2: to be a rebuilding year for the Arizona Cardinals. Who knows,

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Speaker 2: to me is so important for Kyler Murray that he

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Speaker 10: I think that's been the biggest thing for me, how

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Speaker 10: I'm curious to test the physicality, you know, playing linebacker,

435
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Speaker 10: it's obviously a physical position. When we're running around with

436
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Speaker 10: jerseys and helmets, you can't really feel that physicality yet,

437
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Speaker 10: so once we put the pads on, I'm really curious

438
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Speaker 10: to see how that is. And you know, just play

439
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Speaker 10: football at the end of the day, That's what it

440
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Speaker 10: comes down to, and I'm just excited to get out

441
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Speaker 10: there on the grass and play football.

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Speaker 5: What do you hope you've shown the coaches so far?

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Speaker 10: Versatility? I hope that I showed I do have like

444
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Speaker 10: you and I can manage the huddle. Playing Mike linebacker,

445
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Speaker 10: it's important to manage the huddle and be able to

446
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Speaker 10: make the correct checks and be on your toes at

447
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Speaker 10: all times because you know, if he wants to go

448
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 10: hurry up, you got to be ready and get your

449
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Speaker 10: guys lined up because you know you're responsible for ten

450
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Speaker 10: other teammates.

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Speaker 6: So that's important.

452
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Speaker 5: When you say versatility, you're talking about playing the mic,

453
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Speaker 5: playing the will or are you talking run versus pass

454
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Speaker 5: and being a three down.

455
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Speaker 6: Backer run versus pass?

456
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Speaker 10: Ability to you know, cover down outside the box, play

457
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Speaker 10: in the box. You know, just be versatile on the field.

458
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Speaker 10: Don't allow teams to kind of iso you one on one.

459
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Speaker 5: What's your confidence level like right now? Have you seen

460
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Speaker 5: enough to know, okay, I can hang in this league?

461
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Speaker 10: I don't think I've seen enough. You know, I still

462
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Speaker 10: have a lot to learn, and every day I try

463
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Speaker 10: to keep that mindset. And you know, we haven't played

464
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Speaker 10: a full game yet, so I don't even think I'm near,

465
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Speaker 10: you know, to the point where like, okay, I feel

466
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Speaker 10: like I'm I made it. So just every day being

467
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Speaker 10: a learner and just trying to do the best I

468
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Speaker 10: can to get better.

469
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Speaker 6: And I think that's the most important.

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Speaker 5: About this playbook. If there was a game tomorrow, could

471
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Speaker 5: you call this defense?

472
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Speaker 6: I feel confident in that. I do feel really confident.

473
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Speaker 5: And you did that your last two or three years

474
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Speaker 5: a day issue.

475
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Speaker 10: Honestly, four the last four years, last four years for sure.

476
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Speaker 5: Because I'm seeing here you played fifty three games over

477
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Speaker 5: five years.

478
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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

479
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Speaker 5: I mean that's almost exactly for example, what a rock party.

480
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Speaker 6: Played, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could say that.

481
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Speaker 5: I mean, there's got to be a level of preparation

482
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Speaker 5: that you feel that maybe a lot of rookies don't.

483
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Speaker 6: You could say that.

484
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Speaker 10: Honestly, my mindset just going into everything has just always

485
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Speaker 10: stemmed from, you know, what I learned in college in

486
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Speaker 10: terms of just know every position, because if you know

487
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Speaker 10: every position, you're gonna feel more comfortable out there, and

488
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Speaker 10: you're gonna be able to not only help yourself, but

489
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Speaker 10: help your teammates if they you know, once the bolts

490
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Speaker 10: start flying. So I try to take that mindset every

491
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Speaker 10: day when I come into work and just grow from that.

492
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Speaker 5: So players, no players, Kyle Solis, our guest Cardinals rookie.

493
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Speaker 5: When you watch either side of the ball, is there

494
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Speaker 5: a certain player who stands out? You're like, man, that

495
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Speaker 5: guy's inn NFL dude, that guy has skills. Is there

496
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Speaker 5: anybody's really stood out to you?

497
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Speaker 10: I would say Hollywood Brown with his quickness and his

498
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Speaker 10: quick twitch. That's one guy for sure. I would also

499
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Speaker 10: say Michael Wilson, the rookie. He's been making plays and

500
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Speaker 10: practice that. You know, I'm saying, you know, he's catching

501
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Speaker 10: my eye and I'm tipping my cap to him. So,

502
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Speaker 10: but I think once we put the pads on, it's

503
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Speaker 10: going to start. You know, the real players will show up.

504
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Speaker 5: Then you're as an Arizona guy. When you heard the rookies,

505
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Speaker 5: like in early May say, man, it's hot out here,

506
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Speaker 5: did you laugh like laugh and knowing laugh Like, oh man,

507
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Speaker 5: you guys have no idea.

508
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Speaker 10: I t I try my best to warn that, you know,

509
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Speaker 10: I tell of listen, you can't over a hydrate here.

510
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Speaker 6: It's not possible.

511
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Speaker 10: So just make sure if you think you're drinking enough,

512
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Speaker 10: you're having a little bit more.

513
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Speaker 6: It's good.

514
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Speaker 5: Well, look, it's been an introduction in the NFL. You've

515
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Speaker 5: also had some field trips right the bowling you have

516
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Speaker 5: then go cards.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we've had some fun and we've also got to

518
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Speaker 10: see other people's skill set off the fields.

519
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Speaker 5: We look forward to it, Kyle, next stop training. Can't

520
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Speaker 5: appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Back right after this on the Big Red.

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Speaker 11: Rage back to Pasco's Dalton. On first down buyers over

524
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Speaker 11: the middle, the ball is tipped into the air.

525
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Speaker 4: To pick off of the thirty yard line running left,

526
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Speaker 4: and it's funny Marco Wilson to the ted.

527
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 5: He high steps and then he doesn't flip into the.

528
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Speaker 4: Ends up of the touchdown. Marco Wilson with a pick

529
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Speaker 4: six Pavia Cardinals take the lane twenty to fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Boy, did you see Marco Wilson elevate on that dude

531
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Speaker 2: that touchdown slip.

532
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Speaker 11: What was kind of funny is they're showing the camerangle

533
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Speaker 11: of Andy Dalton being upset and in the background you

534
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Speaker 11: can see Wilson launch it into the air like it's

535
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Speaker 11: just part of the background.

536
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Speaker 6: It looks quite humorous.

537
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Speaker 5: That was an all time meme, no doubt about it.

538
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Speaker 5: You guys are reacting in real time. Dave pash Ron Woefully.

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Speaker 5: It's a big red rage presented by santan Ford and

540
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Speaker 5: Gilbert We are santan Ford special. Thanks Kyle Solely, Cardinals

541
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Speaker 5: rookie linebacker. He has been held accountable by Jonathan Gannon.

542
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Speaker 5: Imagine that. So that was interesting. But Wolf, if I

543
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Speaker 5: if you had to give me one memory something that's

544
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 5: really just indelible in your memory bank from last season,

545
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Speaker 5: wouldn't it have to be that TV low angle shot

546
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Speaker 5: of Andy Dalton after he threw the pick six and

547
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Speaker 5: then behind him is an airborne Marco Wilson baulting into

548
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Speaker 5: the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Paully, there's no tough about it. It's one of the best.

550
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Speaker 2: It was turned into a meme. Yes, it was turned

551
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Speaker 2: into a meme. Man, It was just the best one

552
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Speaker 2: that I think I've ever seen. The look on Andy

553
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Speaker 2: Dalton's face walking off with the flipping Marco Wilson behind him. Man,

554
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Speaker 2: you just can't make that up ball that was.

555
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Speaker 5: So good, Just stupid athleticism by Marco Wilson. You realize

556
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Speaker 5: you're in the NFL when you see something like that, right,

557
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 5: not just the play, but the finish. So Jonathan Gannon,

558
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Speaker 5: speaking of the Cardinals new head coach, he has a

559
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Speaker 5: lot of history coaching defensive backs and one of the

560
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Speaker 5: big questions right now, what does that cornerback depth chart

561
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Speaker 5: look like? We figure Marco Wilson is we don't know

562
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Speaker 5: for sure. As for expectations of the position group, here's

563
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Speaker 5: the head coach.

564
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Speaker 2: We ask a.

565
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Speaker 8: Lot of our corners, you know, with the different coverage

566
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Speaker 8: structures that we play and things like that, like the

567
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Speaker 8: days of having a corner that doesn't know what's going on,

568
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Speaker 8: that's not here.

569
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Speaker 5: No, you got to prove you can be trusted, especially

570
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Speaker 5: as a cornerback, because a blown coverage guess what, it's

571
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Speaker 5: not like a defensive lineman maybe blowing an assignment and

572
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Speaker 5: there's a big hole in the B gap. No, you

573
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Speaker 5: blow an assignment as a corner and guess what, it's

574
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Speaker 5: most likely six points. So A, you have to be

575
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Speaker 5: trusted by the coaches and then b guess what you're

576
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Speaker 5: gonna have to show them you can play. So how

577
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Speaker 5: do you read the room, that cornerback room as we

578
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Speaker 5: go into campbell.

579
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, Paul, I think it does. It

580
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Speaker 2: all starts with Marco Wilson, of course, and this guy,

581
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Speaker 2: I really do believe he's going to take a huge

582
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Speaker 2: step forward a couple of seasons now. And I remember

583
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Speaker 2: going into training camp last training camp, the coaching staff

584
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Speaker 2: was looking at Marco Wilson with a johndice that were

585
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Speaker 2: waiting for him to actually make that leap, take that

586
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Speaker 2: next step forward, and I think he did ultimately during

587
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Speaker 2: that season. Marco Wilson's got good size. He's five to eleven.

588
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Speaker 2: It's not like Marco Wilson is a five to nine

589
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: corner out there. He's five eleven. He's got good size,

590
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Speaker 2: the athleticism is there, He's got everything you need to

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Speaker 2: be a very very good corner in this league. PAULI.

592
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Speaker 2: That's why I think it's important Marco Wilson from day

593
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Speaker 2: one of training camp takes that next step forward and

594
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Speaker 2: truly does become CB one.

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Speaker 5: And you know what, that's a great recollection because you're

596
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 5: right by the end of camp it was Byron Murphy one.

597
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Speaker 5: Antonio Hamilton two. Yes, Antonio Hamilton had the tragic cooking

598
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 5: accident where he poured hot grease on his feet and

599
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 5: he missed the first month of the season. So Marco

600
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Speaker 5: Wilson as a default starter, really got those reps early,

601
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Speaker 5: and to your point, he made progress throughout the season.

602
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Speaker 5: But Antonio Hamilton is back on this roster. A sobering

603
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 5: moment for Antonio he shared with the media when he

604
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Speaker 5: realized he's older than his defensive coordinator. He's thirty one.

605
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 5: Nick Rollis is about to turn thirty and speaking of coaching,

606
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Speaker 5: here's Antonio Hamilton, the veteran corner.

607
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Speaker 12: It's a little different, but they have such a great

608
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Speaker 12: understanding of it, and I think that they can tell

609
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Speaker 12: you what it is. The reason why we're doing it

610
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Speaker 12: is just to give you that full fledged understanding of

611
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Speaker 12: just not running cover three like you understand the principles

612
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Speaker 12: of why we're running and doing it like this.

613
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Speaker 5: A lot of those guys in that defensive backfield Wolf

614
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Speaker 5: talking about how different it is, you know, Jalen Thompson said,

615
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Speaker 5: in some ways, actually they're going to be allowed to

616
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 5: play a little more free than under vance. Joseph which

617
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Speaker 5: I found intriguing. He didn't really define it exactly, but

618
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Speaker 5: I do think this coaching seven both sides of the

619
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Speaker 5: ball is going to try and simplify things a little bit,

620
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Speaker 5: at least out of the gate.

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Speaker 2: Well. It's interesting because when you listen to JG and

622
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Speaker 2: what he said right there, he's talking about corner. It's

623
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Speaker 2: not a position any longer that you can just put

624
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Speaker 2: somebody out there that has great athleticism. It used to

625
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: be a situation where you know a guy and I'm

626
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: just being as open and transparent as I can here,

627
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: but it used to be a situation stick a guy

628
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Speaker 2: out there. He really didn't have to know a whole

629
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: lot of what you were doing. It was basically cover

630
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: the guy in front of you. Right right there, you

631
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Speaker 2: got him in man. Cover. We're playing an awful lot

632
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Speaker 2: of man cover him in man. That's your job, that's

633
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: your assignment. Right there, You've got the number one receiver.

634
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: Depending on the formation, of course, and depending on the

635
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: personnel grouping, you've got the number one receiver. Cover them.

636
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Speaker 2: That's what you do right there. It's not like that anymore,

637
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: and it's not a surprise with all the advanced schemes

638
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 2: that the NFL have gone to now and what they're running.

639
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: It's not like they've got brand new schemes. Paul. You

640
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: heard him mentioned Cover three right there, that's three deep

641
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: four underneath rush four. That is really taken over the

642
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: National Football League. It's incredible to see the way that

643
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: it has taken over. And everyone's got their own rules

644
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,479
Speaker 2: as to how and why you jump a route or

645
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: jump a receiver based on that Cover three scheme. See,

646
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Speaker 2: that's something that Bill Belichick has done for years. Cover two, Polly,

647
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: everybody runs Cover two. You got two safeties high, you

648
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: got five underneath, you rush for right there. Everybody runs it.

649
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Speaker 2: What makes it different is what you tell the guys

650
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Speaker 2: that are in the zone rooms what they should be

651
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Speaker 2: looking for, and how they react to what they're looking for.

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Speaker 2: That's what makes it different. And Bill Belichick was a

653
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Speaker 2: master at making his Cover two different from somebody else's

654
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Speaker 2: Cover two. Well, the same thing I think is going

655
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: to apply here. The Cardinals are going to play man cover,

656
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: there's no doubt about that. But this Cover three scheme

657
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: as well is a big part of what they do. Now,

658
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: how you teach it, that's JG. His fingerprints are all over.

659
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Speaker 5: That and ultimately who plays it in that secondary Marco Wilson,

660
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Speaker 5: Antonio Hamilton, Christian Matthew, the seventh rounder last year, a

661
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Speaker 5: couple of veteran journeymen Nate Harriston, Rashot Fenn, a couple

662
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 5: of rookies, Key Troll. Clark was impressed so far. You

663
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 5: figured Garrett Williams the third round, when he's back from

664
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Speaker 5: the knee injury, he'll be in the mix. But you're right,

665
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Speaker 5: you get to week one against Washington, for example, are

666
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Speaker 5: you sending Marco Wilson to shadow and travel with Pro

667
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Speaker 5: Bowl receiver Terry McLaurin. Don't know, not exactly sure. They'll

668
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 5: probably mix up coverage is what a lot of teams do.

669
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Speaker 5: But Jonathan gan and again has a lot of experience

670
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Speaker 5: with this position group, and he was just asked, all right,

671
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Speaker 5: what do the cornerbacks need to have in your defense?

672
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Speaker 8: So they got to be smart, know what's going on,

673
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Speaker 8: and know why calls are being called, where's the stress

674
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Speaker 8: and the strength of each call, and then be able

675
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Speaker 8: to line up and deny the ball on the highway,

676
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Speaker 8: which that's a lonely world out there.

677
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Speaker 5: A couple of weeks ago, well, me and you were

678
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 5: able to talk to Manti asifor New Cardinals GM, and

679
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 5: we asked him about a couple of position groups where

680
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 5: maybe there's a lot to be determined. Cornerback might be

681
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Speaker 5: atop that power pole, and he said, well, look, we're

682
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 5: throwing numbers at it right now, and sure enough, I

683
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 5: just counted up. There are a dozen cornerbacks on the

684
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Speaker 5: roster coming out of mandatory mini camp. So, man, the

685
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 5: competition is on and the back end of that room

686
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 5: could be anybody at this point.

687
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pauly, you know, it's also interesting there are some

688
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: corners that are still out there as free agents. Paul.

689
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Speaker 2: There are some guys that are still Marcus Peters. Does

690
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: that peak your interest?

691
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Speaker 5: Right, So you've been doing some homework, You've been looking

692
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Speaker 5: at who's out there.

693
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Speaker 2: Okay, I still, Paul, I still have this feeling. Bryce

694
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Speaker 2: Callahan is also out there. Now. I understand that he's

695
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Speaker 2: thirty one years old. I understand Marcus Peters is thirty

696
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: years old. But these are guys that were starters in

697
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: the National Football League and injuries have really beat down

698
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: Bryce Callahan a little bit right here, and you could

699
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: say the same for Marcus Peters. But I think their

700
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Speaker 2: experience would make them very very appealing, and I think

701
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Speaker 2: you could also get them at a very good rate.

702
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Speaker 2: You could get them and it wouldn't break the bank.

703
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Speaker 2: That would be something that I would keep my ant

704
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: kind of open to do. I think the Arizona Cardinals

705
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: need to go out and get these guys. No, I

706
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: don't think they need to do that. But once again,

707
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Speaker 2: I think that this roster is going to be very,

708
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: very fluid, and I also think JG is going to

709
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Speaker 2: open the entire roster up to competition.

710
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Speaker 5: You know, the other thing that maniac Safort told us

711
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 5: was that he's maybe not as apt to sign someone

712
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 5: right before camp or early in camp as to wait

713
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 5: for the waiver claims at the end of NFL training

714
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 5: camps where teams set their final fifty three and some

715
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 5: experienced corners might hit the open market. Now it might

716
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 5: be one of those guys you just cited, and then

717
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 5: that could be logical. Here's the other thing. You have

718
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Speaker 5: a joint practice set, in fact, two of them against

719
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Speaker 5: the Vikings. So if you get a sense of your

720
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 5: corners against the Vikings receivers led by Justin Jefferson, you go,

721
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 5: you know what we need a need. We have a need,

722
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 5: we need some experience in here. And by the way,

723
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Speaker 5: the Minnesota Vikings announced that on August twenty third, twenty

724
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Speaker 5: four joint practices, those are going to be open to

725
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Speaker 5: the public. So Wolf, it is like, so on right,

726
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 5: everybody's gonna be watching Cardinals and Vikings in a joint practice.

727
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, right there. So I'm thinking that the

728
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: twenty third is a Wednesday, is it not?

729
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Speaker 6: Yep?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, the twenty third, Polly, that's gonna be the

731
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Speaker 2: greasy one. That's gonna be the one right there that

732
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Speaker 2: I unless I miss my guest here, that is going

733
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Speaker 2: to be a Wednesday. That probably is gonna be full pads,

734
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Speaker 2: full gear right there. If you are somebody who lives

735
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Speaker 2: up there in Minnesota, if you are somebody that loves

736
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Speaker 2: the NFL, if you want to take a summer trip, Okay,

737
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: if you are living here in Arizona and you want

738
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Speaker 2: to take a summer trip, I would say go up

739
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: to Minnesota and watch that practice, because that's gonna be

740
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Speaker 2: the physical one. That's gonna be the greasy one. And

741
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: what makes it even better with the news you just

742
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: said it's going to be open to the public, and

743
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Speaker 2: that means everybody's gonna be watching every individual drill, not

744
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: just the guy your room, not just the guys that

745
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: are at your position, but everybody is going to be

746
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: watching your one on one as you're trying to beat

747
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: a corner on a slam.

748
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Speaker 5: Hopefully we'll be coming from Larry's place henor Larry Fitzgerald's lakehouse.

749
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 5: Hopefully we'll be hanging out at Larry's with his cruise

750
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Speaker 5: right over to the joint practice. We'll see by the way,

751
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Speaker 5: Cardinals Camp first open practice July twenty seventh, First padded

752
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 5: practice July thirty first. That should be like an official

753
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 5: state holiday, the first padded practice July thirty first, everybody

754
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 5: gets the afternoon off. Hey team up with the Cardinals

755
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 5: and State Farm by donating a backpack filled with school

756
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Speaker 5: supplies for students and need in the Tempe Elementary School District.

757
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Speaker 5: Support the virtual Back to School Drive from now through

758
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Speaker 5: June twenty third. That's Asycardinals dot Com slash Back to School,

759
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Speaker 5: Asycardinals dot Com slash back the number two school. All right,

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Speaker 5: we'll come back and talk about an all timer in

761
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Speaker 5: Cardinals history when we return on the Big Red Rage.

762
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Speaker 5: This is everything that you hoped it was going to be.

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Speaker 1: You look out here at University of Phoenix Stadium and

764
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Speaker 1: just see the passion and to feel the energy that

765
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Speaker 1: is in this building right now. This is what playoff

766
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Speaker 1: football is all about at.

767
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Speaker 2: The beginning of the year.

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Speaker 5: This is what everybody signs up for.

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Speaker 13: I mean, sixteen regular season games with the promise to

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Speaker 13: get to the playoffs. And it's just one of those

771
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Speaker 13: things that I mean, you suck it up, you play

772
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Speaker 13: off adrenaline and hopefully we'll be sitting on a parade

773
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Speaker 13: float in downtown Phoenix.

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Speaker 5: That is Clarkhagans, heck of a player, all time personality

775
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 5: in recent Cardinals history, a guy who knew a thing

776
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 5: or two about the NFL postseason, won oring two thousand

777
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 5: and five with the Pittsburgh Steelers when he started opposite

778
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Speaker 5: his college teammate at Colorado State, Joey Porter for the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: Think about that, and then think about the news we

780
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Speaker 5: received this week as we wrap with this edition to

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Speaker 5: the Big Red Rage presented by Santan ford In Gilbert

782
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 5: Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley, and I know I speak for

783
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Speaker 5: both of us when we were shocked to learn that

784
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Speaker 5: Clark Hagens that were now speaking of him in the

785
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 5: past tense. He has passed away aged forty six. There

786
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 5: was no cause of death given, and it was a

787
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 5: thirteen year career and so many memories right the four

788
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Speaker 5: seasons he spent with the Cardinals Wolf, including one edition

789
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Speaker 5: of this show that honestly might have been the funniest

790
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Speaker 5: top to bottom edition of The Big Red Rage ever.

791
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Speaker 5: It was two thousand and eight early that season with

792
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Speaker 5: bertrand Bury and Clark Hags was so hilarious during that

793
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 5: show and so vibrant is a personality. I mean, the

794
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Speaker 5: energy was just just palpable every time he ran into.

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Speaker 2: Him, No no doubt about it, Paulie. It truly was

796
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Speaker 2: who Clark Hagen's was and what he was all about.

797
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Speaker 2: And you say memories, Paulie, I think of man, I

798
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: think of what a good football player. He was not

799
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Speaker 2: only a funny individual and a very smart guy, but

800
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: a very good football player. He didn't lose a lot

801
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: of physical battles on the football. He didn't and those

802
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: that he he did lose, he walked through. For the

803
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: most part. He was very very tough, very resilient. He

804
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Speaker 2: enjoyed the physicality of the game as well, and just

805
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: a smart guy overall. Clark haagens it's hard for me, Paulie.

806
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: I know it is for you as well to imagine

807
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Speaker 2: him no longer with us at the age of forty six.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna go back into the archives and here's an

809
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Speaker 5: episode of Wired All Access. He was wearing a microphone.

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Speaker 5: It was against Seattle. It was two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 5: I think you can really hear how Clarkhagan's was equal

812
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Speaker 5: parts intense and equal parts entertaining. I'm having some fun.

813
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Speaker 14: It's all about playing, tackling, hitting people, just being loud

814
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Speaker 14: and crazy.

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Speaker 5: Hey, let's go.

816
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Speaker 6: You just gotta be ready always.

817
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Speaker 11: Castlebec takes five step drop.

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Speaker 4: He's in trouble and the ball comes out as he

819
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Speaker 4: got sacked and the Cardinals have it robles on it.

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Speaker 5: Twenty three. D oh, no, let's go, let's stop, let's

821
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Speaker 5: go out.

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Speaker 14: Well, I just came off the corner and hassled back,

823
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Speaker 14: held the ball and I saw I think it was

824
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Speaker 14: Colais fall, so I tried to just go airborne to

825
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Speaker 14: do the superfly. Jimmy Snook at old school.

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Speaker 2: W w e, oh, little children, we're playing against little children.

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Speaker 6: We're fast.

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Speaker 14: Everybody's athletic, and we just like to fly around to

829
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Speaker 14: the ball. No work, no work, pushing three kaboc and

830
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Speaker 14: cost some turnovers, get some sacks, some interceptions.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, let's go.

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Speaker 14: Just keep playing like just wild frenzy and just have

833
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Speaker 14: a lot of fun doing it. You've been wired into

834
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Speaker 14: Clark Haigns.

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Speaker 5: Just being down on the sideline during his career. I

836
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Speaker 5: was furred up just watching Clark Kagans. He was in

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Speaker 5: phenomenal shape. Used to crush camelback. I mean just he

838
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Speaker 5: would beat the entire team up there when they'd have

839
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Speaker 5: the rookies take that hike with old strength, quotes John Lott.

840
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Speaker 5: And then his story is like the one he told

841
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Speaker 5: on the Big Red Rage, that one time Wolf about Halloween.

842
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 5: He loved Halloween, loved the candy, loved dressing up. Told

843
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Speaker 5: the story in Pittsburgh. He got the cops called on

844
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Speaker 5: him once because he dressed up in a real Spider

845
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Speaker 5: Man outfit and then started running and vaulting through people's backyards.

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Speaker 2: Who's this guy, you know, Pully? And so it's amazing

847
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Speaker 2: you say that because Clark Haagen's was all of six four.

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Speaker 2: He was six ' four he was two hundred and

849
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Speaker 2: forty five pounds. I think Paully somewhere in there. But

850
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Speaker 2: this guy had to have what five percent body fat

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Speaker 2: on him.

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Speaker 5: Believable.

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Speaker 2: So when you say when you say you know he

854
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Speaker 2: loved Halloween, which he did, love to dress up, loved

855
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Speaker 2: doing it. But when you say Spider Man, he was

856
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Speaker 2: in the Spider Man outfit, to me, it makes me

857
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Speaker 2: laugh because Clark could have he pulled that off. Hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty five pounds. He pulled that off because he

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Speaker 2: didn't have a rite a fat on him.

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Speaker 5: The two thousand and eight year, by the way, he

861
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 5: suffered that foot injury in mid December, but he's still

862
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 5: such a vocal leader. As the Cardinals made that Super

863
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Speaker 5: Bowl run, he wound up his career forty six and

864
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Speaker 5: a half career sacks, thirteen year career, still the all

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Speaker 5: time sack leader in Colorado state history. Once again, Clark

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Speaker 5: Kagan's passes away at the age of forty six, much

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Speaker 5: too soon, and no cause of death has been given yet.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna go in the next three weeks, by the way,

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Speaker 5: Wolf into the Cardinals archives. We're gonna have some special

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Speaker 5: Cardinals folk tales editions of The Big Red Rage. In order,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna have Thanks Coach, right, Dennis Green and the

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Speaker 5: famous rant Monday night meltdown, legendary locker. This is can't

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Speaker 5: miss radio Pat Tillman, the story of Pat Tillman. And

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Speaker 5: we've all seen the statue out of the stadium. But

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals have another museum piece and it's locker. His

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Speaker 5: locker was saved from the wrecking ball, literally, and that

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Speaker 5: is inside Cardinals headquarters. We'll talk all about that. And

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Speaker 5: then the Miracle in the Desert. This is where the

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Speaker 5: Cardinals knocked the Vikings from the playoffs. We all remember

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Speaker 5: that resulted in losing the number one pick in the

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Speaker 5: two thousand and four draft. But all this Shakespearean tragedy

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Speaker 5: of Miracle in the Desert, the Cardinals knocking the Vikings

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Speaker 5: out of the playoffs the next three weeks on the

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Speaker 5: Big Red Rage.

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Speaker 2: No, that sounds really really good, right there, boy. The

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Speaker 2: Thanks Coach that is that's got my attention immediately right there, Pauli,

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Speaker 2: and you bring up Tilman's locker. That that right there

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Speaker 2: saved by our own Jim Omahundro, the best game day

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Speaker 2: producer in the history of mankind, and it's incredible to

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Speaker 2: hear that story. I think a lot of people listening

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Speaker 2: right now you want to hear that folk tale because

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Speaker 2: it specifically is hardcore history with the Arizona Cardinals, and

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Speaker 2: it deals with Pat Tillman.

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Speaker 5: And especially now being on the verge of training camp

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Speaker 5: because Wolf we were there when Pat Tillman was a

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Speaker 5: seventh round pick. Even he admitted that he thinks the

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Speaker 5: Cardinals drafted him just for the mark purposes because he

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Speaker 5: was such a personality, such a celebrity, a star at

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Speaker 5: Arizona State. He was the Pack ten defensive player of

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Speaker 5: the year. He was a media darling, right, and so

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Speaker 5: he came out and he earned himself a spot out

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Speaker 5: of the I mean, he was a long shot to

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Speaker 5: make that roster as a tweener, and not only did

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Speaker 5: he make the roster, but he was an integral part

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Speaker 5: of a team that ended up winning its first playoff

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Speaker 5: game in nearly a half century.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got to remember, too, here's a guy

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Speaker 2: that was poised to sign his second contract. Here's a

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Speaker 2: guy that was succeeding at the NFL level, a guy that, yeah,

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00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: didn't come in with a lot of fanfare. It was local,

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Speaker 2: of course because of ASU, but nationally didn't come in

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Speaker 2: with a lot of fanfare and suddenly just became a

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Speaker 2: legendary figure to the entire country, not just Arizona, but

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Speaker 2: the entire country and Pat Tillman. Paully, we had the

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Speaker 2: benefit of actually getting to know Pat Tillman a little

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Speaker 2: bit and it left an indelible mark on his ball,

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Speaker 2: if I believe no doubt.

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Speaker 5: By the way, happy birthday today to Kurt Warner. It

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Speaker 5: is his birthday. And as we one last thought, I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna give you wolf as we go into training camp

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty three. You know your former coach Bill Belichick

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Speaker 5: and his famous phrase no days off. Yes, I think

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Speaker 5: by the time we're done with camp and we get

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Speaker 5: the final fifty three, the phrase is going to be

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Speaker 5: no allegiances. I'm real curious to see who makes this

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Speaker 5: team and who doesn't make this team because you have

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Speaker 5: new decision makers and the head coach, Jonathan Gannon and

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Speaker 5: the GM moniasin port no allegiances. What does that mean

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Speaker 5: once they get going on July twenty seventh.

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Speaker 2: Boy, that means to me, Paully, somebody can make a

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Speaker 2: team and practice and how you practice.

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Speaker 5: thanks as always Kyle Soley, Cardinals rookie inside linebacker, Jim

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Speaker 5: Omahundra Executive producer, Cody Fincher, Technical director on Paul calveyc

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Speaker 5: Ron Wolfley. You can now wear your cowboy hat for

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Speaker 5: the next three weeks. Although I will say Dion Sanders

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Speaker 5: looks better in a cowboy hat than you. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: That'll do it for the Big Red Rage presented by

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