1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:22,075 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. I 2 00:00:22,115 --> 00:00:26,835 Speaker 1: am sorry only that this is not a capital case. 3 00:00:27,835 --> 00:00:31,235 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a traitor to this nation and a 4 00:00:31,315 --> 00:00:34,715 Speaker 1: danger to its literal survival. And he has spit on 5 00:00:34,795 --> 00:00:38,395 Speaker 1: everyone who serves it, and on every military member present 6 00:00:38,475 --> 00:00:43,475 Speaker 1: and past, active veterans dead alike. He has been and 7 00:00:43,515 --> 00:00:45,355 Speaker 1: he remains a threat to the safety of every one 8 00:00:45,395 --> 00:00:47,275 Speaker 1: of us, and he will be so as long as 9 00:00:47,275 --> 00:00:52,355 Speaker 1: he lives. Donald Trump has jeopardized this nation's security. He 10 00:00:52,355 --> 00:00:55,995 Speaker 1: has jeopardized its rule of law. He has jeopardized its 11 00:00:55,995 --> 00:00:59,355 Speaker 1: position as a leader in this world. And those whose 12 00:00:59,395 --> 00:01:02,795 Speaker 1: responds to the breathtaking scope of the thirty seven charges 13 00:01:02,835 --> 00:01:06,075 Speaker 1: against him is to lash out at the prosecution, or 14 00:01:06,115 --> 00:01:10,355 Speaker 1: defend the indefensible, or promise retribution in the courts, they 15 00:01:10,395 --> 00:01:15,555 Speaker 1: have lost all connection to morality, personal and national. Those 16 00:01:15,595 --> 00:01:17,795 Speaker 1: who have vowed revenge or an eye for an eye 17 00:01:17,835 --> 00:01:21,955 Speaker 1: have lost all right to serve in our government in 18 00:01:22,035 --> 00:01:29,275 Speaker 1: any capacity. I am very, very sorry that when Donald 19 00:01:29,315 --> 00:01:32,875 Speaker 1: Trump goes on trial for his traitorous, treacherous trees and 20 00:01:32,955 --> 00:01:35,355 Speaker 1: his crimes against the United States of America, that he 21 00:01:35,435 --> 00:01:39,435 Speaker 1: will face only the possibility of sentences totaling one hundred years. 22 00:01:39,755 --> 00:01:46,835 Speaker 1: That is not enough. It is that bad quote. The 23 00:01:46,835 --> 00:01:51,275 Speaker 1: classified documents Trump stored in his boxes included information regarding 24 00:01:51,315 --> 00:01:54,315 Speaker 1: defense and weapons capabilities of both the United States and 25 00:01:54,395 --> 00:01:58,115 Speaker 1: foreign countries. Reads the indictment, The next sentence is worse. 26 00:01:58,995 --> 00:02:03,395 Speaker 1: Trump had documents detailing United States nuclear programs. There are 27 00:02:03,395 --> 00:02:06,995 Speaker 1: references to a document about American nuclear weaponry and another 28 00:02:07,075 --> 00:02:11,235 Speaker 1: document about another country's nuclear capacity. But the next sentence 29 00:02:11,395 --> 00:02:15,435 Speaker 1: is worse. He had potential vulnerabilities of the United States 30 00:02:15,435 --> 00:02:19,355 Speaker 1: and its allies to military attack. But the next sentence 31 00:02:19,395 --> 00:02:23,955 Speaker 1: is even worse. He had America's plans for possible retaliation 32 00:02:24,075 --> 00:02:28,035 Speaker 1: to a foreign attack. All that keeps US safe from 33 00:02:28,075 --> 00:02:33,355 Speaker 1: countries which still truly harbored dreams of attacking this country militarily, 34 00:02:33,555 --> 00:02:37,715 Speaker 1: North Korea, Russia, maybe China. All that could have enabled 35 00:02:37,715 --> 00:02:41,115 Speaker 1: those countries to transform those dreams into battle plans. All 36 00:02:41,155 --> 00:02:45,395 Speaker 1: of that Donald Trump stole and kept and kept near 37 00:02:45,595 --> 00:02:50,195 Speaker 1: the Marlago Club's swimming pool and near the liquor supply closet. 38 00:02:50,475 --> 00:02:53,395 Speaker 1: And other documents were kept in the bathroom next to 39 00:02:53,475 --> 00:03:00,755 Speaker 1: the toilet. It is that bad. It is as bad 40 00:03:01,155 --> 00:03:04,795 Speaker 1: as the Rosenberg's. It is as bad as the other 41 00:03:04,995 --> 00:03:07,795 Speaker 1: nuclear spies of the nineteen fifties. It is as bad 42 00:03:07,835 --> 00:03:11,555 Speaker 1: as Rick Ames and Robert Hanson. It is, in fact worse. 43 00:03:12,915 --> 00:03:14,915 Speaker 1: It is not only worse, It is worse than we 44 00:03:14,955 --> 00:03:18,155 Speaker 1: could possibly have imagined, and it may yet be worse 45 00:03:18,395 --> 00:03:22,795 Speaker 1: than we even know today after the indictment. It is 46 00:03:22,955 --> 00:03:28,275 Speaker 1: so bad that former FBI Deputy Counterintelligence Chief Pete Struck 47 00:03:28,835 --> 00:03:31,675 Speaker 1: says there seemed to be as many as thirteen top 48 00:03:31,755 --> 00:03:35,675 Speaker 1: secret documents recovered in the FBI search of marri Lago, 49 00:03:36,075 --> 00:03:41,475 Speaker 1: about which no charges were filed. Struck suggests, based on 50 00:03:41,555 --> 00:03:44,555 Speaker 1: his long experience, that the Department of Justice had to 51 00:03:44,595 --> 00:03:48,155 Speaker 1: get permission from each agency that owned the information to 52 00:03:48,275 --> 00:03:52,195 Speaker 1: even publicly acknowledge that a document was missing or stolen 53 00:03:52,715 --> 00:03:56,675 Speaker 1: or existed, and that in those thirteen cases, the acknowledgment 54 00:03:56,955 --> 00:04:00,555 Speaker 1: was too dangerous and the documents were too secret, too sensitive, 55 00:04:00,675 --> 00:04:03,475 Speaker 1: too vital to the security of a nation to even 56 00:04:03,515 --> 00:04:06,075 Speaker 1: be referred to, let alone to be part of a 57 00:04:06,075 --> 00:04:12,075 Speaker 1: criminal case. A reading of the indictment shows several occasions 58 00:04:12,115 --> 00:04:15,635 Speaker 1: in which some of the code names and other terminology 59 00:04:15,795 --> 00:04:19,475 Speaker 1: of the documents and terminology in the documents had to 60 00:04:19,555 --> 00:04:24,755 Speaker 1: be redacted. In the indictment itself. These crimes are so 61 00:04:25,035 --> 00:04:28,555 Speaker 1: bad that you need special clearance just to be told 62 00:04:28,675 --> 00:04:35,315 Speaker 1: exactly what some of them are. Trump stolen kept documents 63 00:04:35,315 --> 00:04:38,955 Speaker 1: from the Department of Defense. He stolen kept documents from 64 00:04:38,995 --> 00:04:42,395 Speaker 1: the National Security Agency. He stolen kept documents from the 65 00:04:42,475 --> 00:04:46,635 Speaker 1: National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. He stolen kept documents from the 66 00:04:46,675 --> 00:04:50,355 Speaker 1: National Reconnaissance Office. He stolen, kept documents from the Department 67 00:04:50,395 --> 00:04:53,675 Speaker 1: of Energy. He stolen kept documents from the State Department 68 00:04:53,795 --> 00:04:59,955 Speaker 1: Bureau of Intelligence and Research. And these were not mistakes, 69 00:05:01,115 --> 00:05:07,275 Speaker 1: These were not accidents, These were not souvenirs. This was 70 00:05:07,355 --> 00:05:16,355 Speaker 1: not hoarding. This was a curated collection. Trump chose the 71 00:05:16,435 --> 00:05:19,835 Speaker 1: most secret, the most sensitive, the most damaging, the most 72 00:05:19,875 --> 00:05:22,595 Speaker 1: important documents. He took them with him. He chose which 73 00:05:22,595 --> 00:05:24,995 Speaker 1: ones he might give back. He worried to this Walt 74 00:05:25,075 --> 00:05:27,315 Speaker 1: Naouda that the boxes he kept them in had been 75 00:05:27,395 --> 00:05:30,635 Speaker 1: labeled with too many details about what the boxes contained. 76 00:05:31,035 --> 00:05:33,675 Speaker 1: He replaced the tops to the boxes because the old 77 00:05:33,675 --> 00:05:39,235 Speaker 1: ones were insufficient. This was his collection, and at least twice, 78 00:05:39,275 --> 00:05:41,995 Speaker 1: including in the case of that Mark milly Iran document, 79 00:05:42,035 --> 00:05:45,315 Speaker 1: to the Mark Meadows Ghostwriters, he showed parts of his 80 00:05:45,475 --> 00:05:48,515 Speaker 1: collection off to people who never should have seen any 81 00:05:48,555 --> 00:05:51,155 Speaker 1: of it. And as he did so, he acknowledged that 82 00:05:51,235 --> 00:05:52,915 Speaker 1: he had no right to do so. And still he 83 00:05:52,955 --> 00:05:57,035 Speaker 1: showed the documents off like your grandmother and her Humbo figurines. 84 00:05:58,995 --> 00:06:01,635 Speaker 1: And then when he was done with them, they were left, 85 00:06:01,675 --> 00:06:06,755 Speaker 1: often where they sat. On December seventh, twenty twenty one, 86 00:06:07,635 --> 00:06:11,515 Speaker 1: another date which shall live in infamy, Walt Nahould have 87 00:06:11,555 --> 00:06:16,635 Speaker 1: found boxes and their contents strewn on the floor of 88 00:06:16,715 --> 00:06:20,675 Speaker 1: the storage room. One document he saw said it was 89 00:06:20,755 --> 00:06:28,835 Speaker 1: releasable only to the Five Eyes Intelligence Alliance. Trump spilling 90 00:06:28,915 --> 00:06:37,395 Speaker 1: secrets literally on the floor. It is bad. It is 91 00:06:37,475 --> 00:06:40,395 Speaker 1: so bad that the conservative David from may have stated 92 00:06:40,395 --> 00:06:44,035 Speaker 1: this half jokingly, but what he stated is entirely true. 93 00:06:44,795 --> 00:06:49,035 Speaker 1: Any hostile foreign intelligence service that failed to steal US 94 00:06:49,115 --> 00:06:52,995 Speaker 1: secrets from Trump's Mary Lago stash owes its taxpayers a 95 00:06:52,995 --> 00:06:57,875 Speaker 1: big refund that is dark and bitter humor, and it 96 00:06:57,915 --> 00:07:01,795 Speaker 1: contains a more awful truth. Still, how do we know 97 00:07:02,795 --> 00:07:07,835 Speaker 1: all the hostile foreign intelligence services failed to steal our 98 00:07:07,915 --> 00:07:13,715 Speaker 1: secrets from Mary Lago from the floor, from the bathroom. 99 00:07:14,595 --> 00:07:21,235 Speaker 1: How do we not know we are not today compromised, endangered, imperiled, 100 00:07:23,835 --> 00:07:27,395 Speaker 1: and all along Trump knew he was breaking the law, 101 00:07:27,795 --> 00:07:30,795 Speaker 1: document after document and day after day, breaking the law 102 00:07:30,835 --> 00:07:34,075 Speaker 1: by having the documents, breaking the law by keeping the documents, 103 00:07:34,195 --> 00:07:37,595 Speaker 1: trying to get his attorney to break the law for him. 104 00:07:38,195 --> 00:07:41,115 Speaker 1: Trump telling somebody not to stand quite that close to 105 00:07:41,155 --> 00:07:43,515 Speaker 1: one of the classified documents because they didn't have the 106 00:07:43,595 --> 00:07:48,955 Speaker 1: right clearance. The idiocy of it. Trump, this was done 107 00:07:48,995 --> 00:07:51,595 Speaker 1: by the military and given to me. Trump looks to 108 00:07:51,635 --> 00:07:54,595 Speaker 1: a staffer there with him and to the civilians. He 109 00:07:54,755 --> 00:07:59,195 Speaker 1: asks the staffer, I think we can probably write. The 110 00:07:59,235 --> 00:08:02,835 Speaker 1: staffer says, I don't know. We'll have to see. Yeah, 111 00:08:02,835 --> 00:08:05,235 Speaker 1: I will have to try to Trump interrupts him to 112 00:08:05,315 --> 00:08:11,075 Speaker 1: classify it. The staffer replies, figure out a yeah. Trump says, see, 113 00:08:11,155 --> 00:08:16,355 Speaker 1: as president, I could have declassified it. Everybody laughs. Trump again, 114 00:08:16,755 --> 00:08:19,595 Speaker 1: Now I can't you know, bod this is still a secret. 115 00:08:20,195 --> 00:08:24,955 Speaker 1: Stafford says, now we have a problem. Trump, seemingly looking 116 00:08:25,035 --> 00:08:27,435 Speaker 1: at the secret document he never should have shown, never 117 00:08:27,475 --> 00:08:30,675 Speaker 1: should have referred to, never should have stolen now, says, 118 00:08:31,555 --> 00:08:36,155 Speaker 1: isn't that interesting? And finally, when it looked like they 119 00:08:36,195 --> 00:08:40,595 Speaker 1: would catch him, Trump's response was not the easiest and 120 00:08:40,715 --> 00:08:43,635 Speaker 1: coincidentally most honest thing. The thing that would have made 121 00:08:43,755 --> 00:08:47,795 Speaker 1: all this never happen. The only thing our government actually 122 00:08:47,835 --> 00:08:50,875 Speaker 1: wanted As of a year ago, he never once entertained 123 00:08:50,915 --> 00:08:55,715 Speaker 1: the thought of giving it back. In May of twenty 124 00:08:55,755 --> 00:08:58,795 Speaker 1: twenty two, Evan Corcoran told him they needed to search 125 00:08:59,275 --> 00:09:02,515 Speaker 1: for classified documents in order to be responsive to the 126 00:09:02,515 --> 00:09:05,995 Speaker 1: Department of Justice subpoena. I don't want anybody looking through 127 00:09:05,995 --> 00:09:08,995 Speaker 1: my boxes. Trump told him, I really don't. I don't 128 00:09:08,995 --> 00:09:12,555 Speaker 1: want you looking through my boxes. He asked Corcoran, what 129 00:09:12,675 --> 00:09:14,955 Speaker 1: happens if we just don't respond at all or don't 130 00:09:14,995 --> 00:09:19,555 Speaker 1: play ball with them? He philosophized Corkoran, wouldn't it be 131 00:09:19,555 --> 00:09:22,355 Speaker 1: better if we just told them we don't have anything here? 132 00:09:22,955 --> 00:09:26,835 Speaker 1: Isn't it better if there are no documents? And then 133 00:09:26,915 --> 00:09:30,795 Speaker 1: he ruminated after all he had said about this topic, 134 00:09:31,515 --> 00:09:34,515 Speaker 1: He ruminated about what a wonderful job the Hillary Clinton 135 00:09:34,595 --> 00:09:37,355 Speaker 1: aide had done, the one who deleted all the emails 136 00:09:37,395 --> 00:09:42,355 Speaker 1: so as he said, she wouldn't get into trouble. And then, 137 00:09:42,435 --> 00:09:44,515 Speaker 1: after Trump seemed to give in to the idea that 138 00:09:44,515 --> 00:09:47,635 Speaker 1: Corcoran would have to search. On June first, Trump had 139 00:09:47,675 --> 00:09:51,115 Speaker 1: Naota move eleven boxes out of that storage room. And 140 00:09:51,115 --> 00:09:53,475 Speaker 1: then Trump asked Corkoran if Corkoran was coming back to 141 00:09:53,515 --> 00:09:55,435 Speaker 1: Mari Lago the next day. And then on the next day, 142 00:09:55,515 --> 00:09:58,315 Speaker 1: June second, he got Walt Naota to move sixty four 143 00:09:58,355 --> 00:10:01,515 Speaker 1: more boxes, including classified materials, out of the storage room 144 00:10:01,555 --> 00:10:04,035 Speaker 1: and two Trump's residents, but he only had him return 145 00:10:04,155 --> 00:10:08,395 Speaker 1: thirty by boxes. And then he let Corkoran search the 146 00:10:08,515 --> 00:10:14,035 Speaker 1: room that Trump had already searched. And then Trump asked, innocently, 147 00:10:14,555 --> 00:10:22,755 Speaker 1: did you find anything? Is it bad? Good? Since I 148 00:10:22,835 --> 00:10:25,355 Speaker 1: met him in December nineteen eighty three, almost nothing about 149 00:10:25,395 --> 00:10:28,875 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has amazed me. Certainly nothing about Trump and 150 00:10:28,915 --> 00:10:31,595 Speaker 1: the document's case has amazed me in these last months. 151 00:10:31,915 --> 00:10:35,195 Speaker 1: Yet it still stuns me. It still makes me shake 152 00:10:36,155 --> 00:10:40,275 Speaker 1: that those defending him are not defending him. Nobody is 153 00:10:40,315 --> 00:10:44,035 Speaker 1: saying he didn't do these things. They say only he 154 00:10:44,155 --> 00:10:46,715 Speaker 1: had the right to break the laws of the country, 155 00:10:47,675 --> 00:10:49,795 Speaker 1: or that the laws of the country do not apply 156 00:10:49,915 --> 00:10:56,355 Speaker 1: to him, or they threaten US weaponization, impeach Merrick Garland 157 00:10:56,595 --> 00:10:59,515 Speaker 1: an eye for an eye. One idiot on Fox demanded 158 00:10:59,555 --> 00:11:04,675 Speaker 1: that doctor Jill Biden be arrested in return all these excuses, 159 00:11:04,715 --> 00:11:07,195 Speaker 1: these admissions that yes, there are two tiers of law 160 00:11:07,275 --> 00:11:09,915 Speaker 1: enforcement in this country, and the Trumpists believe in that 161 00:11:09,955 --> 00:11:12,235 Speaker 1: system because they believe they are in the tier which 162 00:11:12,315 --> 00:11:14,315 Speaker 1: rights the laws, and the rest of us are in 163 00:11:14,355 --> 00:11:17,835 Speaker 1: the tier upon whom the laws are enacted, and if 164 00:11:17,835 --> 00:11:19,915 Speaker 1: you try to use the laws against them, you have 165 00:11:20,235 --> 00:11:23,995 Speaker 1: politicized justice. It is a vendetta. It is politics. It 166 00:11:24,075 --> 00:11:27,635 Speaker 1: is a Banana republic. It is one presidential candidate targeting 167 00:11:27,675 --> 00:11:32,755 Speaker 1: his opponent criminally. Trump tried to have Hillary Clinton investigated 168 00:11:32,755 --> 00:11:36,115 Speaker 1: for the Uranium one deal. He tried to have the 169 00:11:36,195 --> 00:11:40,435 Speaker 1: Clinton campaign investigated for supposed collusion with Russia to help 170 00:11:40,475 --> 00:11:43,955 Speaker 1: her lose I guess. He tried to have the Clinton 171 00:11:43,995 --> 00:11:47,515 Speaker 1: Foundation investigated for unspecified corruption. He tried to have the 172 00:11:47,515 --> 00:11:51,315 Speaker 1: Obama administration investigated for tapping his phones. He tried to 173 00:11:51,355 --> 00:11:54,035 Speaker 1: have Obama investigated over Russia. He tried to have Adam 174 00:11:54,115 --> 00:11:56,835 Speaker 1: Schiff charged with treason. He tried to have Joe Biden 175 00:11:56,915 --> 00:12:00,035 Speaker 1: charged with treason. He tried to have Google charged with treason. 176 00:12:00,195 --> 00:12:02,715 Speaker 1: He tried to have Senator Blumenthal charged with lying about 177 00:12:02,755 --> 00:12:05,635 Speaker 1: his military service. He tried to have Speaker Pelosi charged 178 00:12:05,635 --> 00:12:08,195 Speaker 1: with lyne about Russia. He tried to have Senator Warner 179 00:12:08,235 --> 00:12:11,395 Speaker 1: Trent for illegally discussing the Mueller investigation. He tried to 180 00:12:11,435 --> 00:12:13,915 Speaker 1: have an anonymous New York Times op ed writer charged 181 00:12:13,915 --> 00:12:16,875 Speaker 1: for national security violations. He tried to have the FBI 182 00:12:16,995 --> 00:12:19,915 Speaker 1: charged with infiltrating his campaign. He tried to have the 183 00:12:19,955 --> 00:12:23,435 Speaker 1: DOJ charged with infiltrating his campaign. He tried to have 184 00:12:23,515 --> 00:12:26,275 Speaker 1: James Comby charged for leaks. He tried to have Robert 185 00:12:26,355 --> 00:12:28,915 Speaker 1: Muller charged for conflicts of interest. He tried to have 186 00:12:28,955 --> 00:12:32,515 Speaker 1: Andy McCabe charged for political donations received by his wife. 187 00:12:32,715 --> 00:12:35,795 Speaker 1: He tried to have Congressman Cummings charged because Baltimore was 188 00:12:35,795 --> 00:12:38,915 Speaker 1: a mess. He tried to have Fusion GPS charge for 189 00:12:39,035 --> 00:12:42,395 Speaker 1: dealing with Christopher Steele. He tried to have Muller prosecutor 190 00:12:42,435 --> 00:12:45,915 Speaker 1: Andrew Weisman investigated just cuz he tried to have Christopher 191 00:12:45,995 --> 00:12:49,115 Speaker 1: Steele charged over the dossier. He tried to have Bruce 192 00:12:49,315 --> 00:12:51,955 Speaker 1: Or charged for meeting with Christopher Steele. He tried to 193 00:12:51,995 --> 00:12:55,275 Speaker 1: have Pete Struck charged for texting Lisa Page. He tried 194 00:12:55,315 --> 00:12:58,835 Speaker 1: to have Lisa Page charged with texting with Pete Struck. 195 00:12:59,075 --> 00:13:02,035 Speaker 1: He tried to have Joe Scarborough investigated over the death 196 00:13:02,075 --> 00:13:07,675 Speaker 1: of a staffer. One presidential candidate criminally targeting his opponents. 197 00:13:07,915 --> 00:13:11,675 Speaker 1: What was that again? And he did something like this 198 00:13:11,835 --> 00:13:17,515 Speaker 1: again at arms length as recently as last month, and 199 00:13:17,555 --> 00:13:21,995 Speaker 1: we really didn't notice it. But yesterday the imfeccable Scott 200 00:13:22,035 --> 00:13:24,635 Speaker 1: mcfarawan of CBS News did a little juxtaposition of the 201 00:13:24,675 --> 00:13:28,715 Speaker 1: timelines now that the DOJ has confirmed its timeline. On 202 00:13:28,835 --> 00:13:32,235 Speaker 1: May nineteenth, the Special Council advised Trump he was a target. 203 00:13:32,675 --> 00:13:35,795 Speaker 1: That day he posted election interference through the use of 204 00:13:35,795 --> 00:13:39,675 Speaker 1: the corrupt FBI and DOJ is the twenty twenty three 205 00:13:39,795 --> 00:13:44,275 Speaker 1: playbook for the radical left, Democrats, rhinos and other lunatics 206 00:13:44,315 --> 00:13:49,035 Speaker 1: among us. Here's the part. Hopefully Jim Jordan and our 207 00:13:49,075 --> 00:13:54,155 Speaker 1: many Republican congressional patriots will stop them cold. The future 208 00:13:54,195 --> 00:13:57,515 Speaker 1: of our country is counting on it. All honest FBI 209 00:13:57,675 --> 00:14:01,915 Speaker 1: agents and representatives must step forward now it is your time. 210 00:14:03,475 --> 00:14:06,475 Speaker 1: Understanding what he had been told that day, That is 211 00:14:06,515 --> 00:14:11,435 Speaker 1: a call for something kin to a military coup against 212 00:14:11,475 --> 00:14:13,635 Speaker 1: the government of the United States, to be led by 213 00:14:13,715 --> 00:14:16,875 Speaker 1: FBI agents and members of the House of Representatives, and 214 00:14:16,955 --> 00:14:21,555 Speaker 1: specifically led by Jim Jordan. That is what Trump wanted. 215 00:14:24,555 --> 00:14:26,515 Speaker 1: And the defense of Trump is not a defense of 216 00:14:26,595 --> 00:14:28,795 Speaker 1: Trump at all. It is a chorus of so watts 217 00:14:28,875 --> 00:14:32,315 Speaker 1: and we'll show youse. And there are Republicans and conservatives 218 00:14:32,355 --> 00:14:35,635 Speaker 1: who see the reality here and now they will be threatened. 219 00:14:36,275 --> 00:14:39,595 Speaker 1: Two of Trump's lawyers quit. James Trusty was on television 220 00:14:39,635 --> 00:14:42,435 Speaker 1: yesterday morning defending him. By afternoon, he and John Rowley 221 00:14:42,475 --> 00:14:46,635 Speaker 1: were out. Jonathan Turley, who has for many years seemingly 222 00:14:46,675 --> 00:14:50,155 Speaker 1: been acting like a man possessed or blackmailed or hallucinating, 223 00:14:50,475 --> 00:14:54,755 Speaker 1: said quote. It is an extremely damning indictment. This is 224 00:14:54,835 --> 00:14:57,835 Speaker 1: not an indictment that you can dismiss. It's really breathtaking. 225 00:14:58,155 --> 00:15:03,675 Speaker 1: The visual and audio tape evidence is really daunting. Senator Murkowski, 226 00:15:03,755 --> 00:15:07,515 Speaker 1: rather blandly noted the real risk here. Mishandling classified documents 227 00:15:07,515 --> 00:15:10,835 Speaker 1: is a federal crime because it can expose national secrets. 228 00:15:11,075 --> 00:15:14,115 Speaker 1: Anyone found guilty, whether an analyst, a former president, or 229 00:15:14,155 --> 00:15:17,475 Speaker 1: another elected or appointed official, should face the same set 230 00:15:17,515 --> 00:15:23,115 Speaker 1: of consequences. Senator Romney spoke up. Trump brought these charges 231 00:15:23,195 --> 00:15:26,915 Speaker 1: upon himself by not only taking classified documents, but by 232 00:15:26,955 --> 00:15:31,675 Speaker 1: refusing to simply return them when given numerous opportunities to 233 00:15:31,795 --> 00:15:38,115 Speaker 1: do so, which is Senator exactly correct. And everybody else, 234 00:15:39,155 --> 00:15:42,675 Speaker 1: they are threatening the rest of us Trump last night. 235 00:15:42,955 --> 00:15:46,875 Speaker 1: See you in Miami on Tuesday. I hope we do 236 00:15:46,915 --> 00:15:51,595 Speaker 1: not repeat the mistakes of January sixth. These are insurrectionist militias. 237 00:15:52,075 --> 00:15:55,795 Speaker 1: They understand only force. The government needs as much force 238 00:15:55,995 --> 00:15:59,955 Speaker 1: as possible, pointed at the militias, in which case, because 239 00:15:59,995 --> 00:16:02,675 Speaker 1: they are bullies and cowards, they will not do a 240 00:16:02,715 --> 00:16:04,675 Speaker 1: thing and there will not even be a rock throat 241 00:16:04,915 --> 00:16:10,875 Speaker 1: by either side. Harry Fleischer, a liar for two different 242 00:16:10,915 --> 00:16:14,115 Speaker 1: presidents and also for the international scum of the earth, 243 00:16:14,515 --> 00:16:18,115 Speaker 1: said every wise Republican should make a pledge they would 244 00:16:18,155 --> 00:16:21,715 Speaker 1: pardon Donald Trump, which I believe would make every one 245 00:16:21,755 --> 00:16:25,195 Speaker 1: of them part of a criminal conspiracy to break the 246 00:16:25,235 --> 00:16:28,435 Speaker 1: same laws that Trump has now been charged with breaking. 247 00:16:29,555 --> 00:16:33,995 Speaker 1: The sixth string. Conservative commentator Monica Crowley urged Republicans to 248 00:16:34,275 --> 00:16:38,435 Speaker 1: fight fire with fire. The insurrectionist congressman Andy Biggs wrote, 249 00:16:38,435 --> 00:16:41,875 Speaker 1: we have now reached a war phrase I for an eye, 250 00:16:42,275 --> 00:16:45,715 Speaker 1: and the Louisiana Congressman Clay Higgins tweeted a cryptic call 251 00:16:45,755 --> 00:16:48,635 Speaker 1: for nothing less than a second January sixth and full 252 00:16:48,675 --> 00:16:51,675 Speaker 1: on civil war quote. President Trump said he has been 253 00:16:51,715 --> 00:16:54,875 Speaker 1: summoned to appear at the federal courthouse in Miami, on 254 00:16:54,995 --> 00:16:58,795 Speaker 1: Tuesday at three pm. This is a perimeter probe from 255 00:16:58,835 --> 00:17:05,795 Speaker 1: the oppressor's hold. Our potus has this buckle up one 256 00:17:06,155 --> 00:17:11,355 Speaker 1: of slash fifty K know your bridges, rock steady, calm, 257 00:17:11,595 --> 00:17:16,355 Speaker 1: that is all. Obviously, this is a deranged middle aged 258 00:17:16,355 --> 00:17:20,435 Speaker 1: man playing soldier in his mind. He wants thousands to 259 00:17:20,475 --> 00:17:22,515 Speaker 1: show up in block bridges and the rest of it 260 00:17:22,595 --> 00:17:26,075 Speaker 1: is QAnon gibberish. But it is an incitement to rebellion 261 00:17:26,115 --> 00:17:28,835 Speaker 1: against the duly elected government of the United States, and 262 00:17:28,915 --> 00:17:31,875 Speaker 1: Clay Higgens should be arrested immediately and then first of 263 00:17:31,915 --> 00:17:39,515 Speaker 1: all given a psych eval of more practical concern going forward. 264 00:17:39,755 --> 00:17:42,715 Speaker 1: This case is, at least for the moment, in the 265 00:17:42,755 --> 00:17:47,835 Speaker 1: hands of the MAGA Judge Eileen Cannon, the same Trump 266 00:17:47,875 --> 00:17:51,275 Speaker 1: appointee who tried to stop the investigation last year and 267 00:17:51,355 --> 00:17:54,635 Speaker 1: then inserted a special master into the equation to decide 268 00:17:54,715 --> 00:17:57,235 Speaker 1: what the DOJ could and could not look at from 269 00:17:57,275 --> 00:18:00,795 Speaker 1: marri A Lago, and who was overturned and reprimanded by 270 00:18:00,875 --> 00:18:04,675 Speaker 1: higher courts at every turn, and she has been assigned 271 00:18:04,795 --> 00:18:08,515 Speaker 1: this case. Charlie Savage of The New York Times writes 272 00:18:08,515 --> 00:18:10,635 Speaker 1: that last year he wrote to the Chief Clerk of 273 00:18:10,675 --> 00:18:16,075 Speaker 1: the Southern District of Florida. Anticipating something, he asked about 274 00:18:16,195 --> 00:18:20,035 Speaker 1: Cannon's potential involvement going forward in the event of further 275 00:18:20,155 --> 00:18:23,315 Speaker 1: legal action in Florida, and he was told by the 276 00:18:23,355 --> 00:18:27,075 Speaker 1: clerk quote, we do not assign related cases to the 277 00:18:27,075 --> 00:18:31,715 Speaker 1: same judge. A related case will still be randomly assigned. 278 00:18:32,835 --> 00:18:36,395 Speaker 1: Meaning unless somebody fixed this, Judge Cannon should go play 279 00:18:36,395 --> 00:18:38,915 Speaker 1: the lottery right now. Because she, out of about thirty 280 00:18:38,995 --> 00:18:42,395 Speaker 1: eligible Florida judges, got the one case, she should never 281 00:18:42,435 --> 00:18:47,235 Speaker 1: be allowed near. The former federal prosecutor Joyce Elleen thinks 282 00:18:47,275 --> 00:18:51,075 Speaker 1: that this is temporary, that the judges expected to recuse, 283 00:18:51,875 --> 00:18:53,835 Speaker 1: that if she is still on the case, Jack Smith 284 00:18:53,875 --> 00:18:56,995 Speaker 1: can challenge her role and would win that challenge. A 285 00:18:57,115 --> 00:19:00,355 Speaker 1: cow law professor named Orrin Curse as maybe not. Judges 286 00:19:00,475 --> 00:19:03,195 Speaker 1: who do not choose recusal are usually given at least 287 00:19:03,195 --> 00:19:05,995 Speaker 1: a chance to not screw up the trial before they 288 00:19:06,035 --> 00:19:08,795 Speaker 1: are removed for screwing up the trial, and that is 289 00:19:08,835 --> 00:19:12,195 Speaker 1: the problem with Canon. More than anything else. The immediate 290 00:19:12,435 --> 00:19:17,035 Speaker 1: enemy is delay. Judge Cannon could accept the most ridiculous 291 00:19:17,075 --> 00:19:20,915 Speaker 1: of Trump legal challenges and stays. She might also rule 292 00:19:20,955 --> 00:19:24,475 Speaker 1: out the entirety of the Evan Corcoran lawyer evidence. She 293 00:19:24,515 --> 00:19:27,955 Speaker 1: could refuse to keep secret documents unseen outside of court. 294 00:19:28,195 --> 00:19:31,315 Speaker 1: The prosecution might therefore have to not pursue Trump on 295 00:19:31,395 --> 00:19:34,475 Speaker 1: some or all of those documents. She could give weight 296 00:19:34,555 --> 00:19:38,075 Speaker 1: to this crap about the Justice Department's Jay Bratt mentioning 297 00:19:38,115 --> 00:19:42,875 Speaker 1: a witness's lawyer's judge ship application. And even if none 298 00:19:42,915 --> 00:19:45,355 Speaker 1: of it actually harms the case, and all of it 299 00:19:45,435 --> 00:19:50,955 Speaker 1: is wiped away by a real judge, it can simply delay. Delay, delay, 300 00:19:51,875 --> 00:19:55,435 Speaker 1: And every delay means the greater likelihood that the trial 301 00:19:55,515 --> 00:19:57,755 Speaker 1: and the appeal and the appeals of the appeal will 302 00:19:57,795 --> 00:19:59,995 Speaker 1: not be over before the election, and that the Republicans 303 00:20:00,075 --> 00:20:03,275 Speaker 1: will not just run a candidate who has been indicted 304 00:20:03,275 --> 00:20:05,955 Speaker 1: and arrested for some of the worst national security crimes 305 00:20:05,955 --> 00:20:09,755 Speaker 1: in this nation's history, the worst when the degree of 306 00:20:09,795 --> 00:20:12,755 Speaker 1: his violation of his oath is considered, they will not 307 00:20:12,795 --> 00:20:18,275 Speaker 1: only run this scumbag, they will run him lustily. I 308 00:20:18,435 --> 00:20:24,875 Speaker 1: will never forgive Merrick Garland for dragging his feet. These 309 00:20:24,915 --> 00:20:31,875 Speaker 1: indictments could have come last January or last September. The 310 00:20:31,915 --> 00:20:36,275 Speaker 1: future chances of the democracy are now diminished because Merrick 311 00:20:36,315 --> 00:20:38,955 Speaker 1: Garland could not see what all the rest of us, 312 00:20:38,995 --> 00:20:41,595 Speaker 1: the ones who have not spent our lives in the law. 313 00:20:42,435 --> 00:20:44,595 Speaker 1: He could not see what all the rest of us saw. 314 00:20:46,595 --> 00:20:50,875 Speaker 1: And to that end, and lastly, I wanted to address 315 00:20:50,915 --> 00:20:55,395 Speaker 1: the difference between shock and surprise. I read the indictment 316 00:20:55,435 --> 00:20:59,155 Speaker 1: and found it blurring before my eyes because I was shaking. 317 00:21:00,115 --> 00:21:04,435 Speaker 1: That was shock. It is shock now. I have, as 318 00:21:04,475 --> 00:21:06,875 Speaker 1: I'm mentioned, no NONINALD Trump for nearly forty years, and 319 00:21:06,915 --> 00:21:09,355 Speaker 1: have always known him evil and irresponsible and selfish, beyond 320 00:21:09,435 --> 00:21:12,835 Speaker 1: all measure and not sane. And still this shocks me, 321 00:21:12,875 --> 00:21:14,675 Speaker 1: as I'm sure it shocks you. But it does not 322 00:21:15,715 --> 00:21:20,515 Speaker 1: surprise me because nearly everything in the thirty seven counts 323 00:21:20,515 --> 00:21:23,275 Speaker 1: against him, and in that document Jack Smith released yesterday, 324 00:21:24,275 --> 00:21:27,835 Speaker 1: You and I have heard that before, nearly all of it. 325 00:21:28,595 --> 00:21:31,715 Speaker 1: The shock is to see it all in one place 326 00:21:31,715 --> 00:21:35,555 Speaker 1: and confirmed and on the record. But last August eleventh. 327 00:21:37,155 --> 00:21:43,435 Speaker 1: August eleventh, DEVILN Barrett, Josh Dawzy, Perry Stein, and Shane 328 00:21:43,475 --> 00:21:47,995 Speaker 1: Harris wrote this in the Washington Post. Quote classified documents 329 00:21:48,035 --> 00:21:52,835 Speaker 1: relating to a nuclear weapon were among the items FBI 330 00:21:52,915 --> 00:21:56,275 Speaker 1: agents sought in search of former President Donald Trump's Florida 331 00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:59,395 Speaker 1: residents on Monday. According to people familiar with the investigation 332 00:22:01,235 --> 00:22:06,355 Speaker 1: August eleventh, and on August twenty five. August twenty five, 333 00:22:07,515 --> 00:22:10,995 Speaker 1: a former Wall Street Journal and Washington Post investigative reporter 334 00:22:11,075 --> 00:22:15,675 Speaker 1: named Ronald Kessler went on Fox. Kessler wrote twenty one 335 00:22:15,875 --> 00:22:18,275 Speaker 1: books about the FBI and the CIA and the Secret 336 00:22:18,355 --> 00:22:21,035 Speaker 1: Service and the White House, and then he became something 337 00:22:21,035 --> 00:22:25,875 Speaker 1: of a florid conservative shill. He wrote an adoring biography 338 00:22:25,875 --> 00:22:29,755 Speaker 1: of Laura Bush. He wrote another praising the presidency of 339 00:22:29,795 --> 00:22:32,795 Speaker 1: her husband. He wrote a third, worshiping Trump. He had 340 00:22:32,875 --> 00:22:35,995 Speaker 1: last been seen early in twenty twenty two on Newsmax 341 00:22:36,635 --> 00:22:41,635 Speaker 1: doing a fawning Trump documentary, yet not even three weeks 342 00:22:41,635 --> 00:22:44,795 Speaker 1: into the marri Lago documents case, which crested yesterday with 343 00:22:44,835 --> 00:22:48,795 Speaker 1: these thirty seven indictments. While the Fox on screen graphics 344 00:22:48,795 --> 00:22:51,835 Speaker 1: first read, did the FBI bug marri A Lago? And 345 00:22:51,915 --> 00:22:55,235 Speaker 1: then what is the FBI hiding? And then the FBI 346 00:22:55,435 --> 00:23:03,075 Speaker 1: shady bugging techniques? Ronald Kessler, Trump apologist went rogue first. 347 00:23:03,155 --> 00:23:05,635 Speaker 1: Kessler said that the level of secret classification for the 348 00:23:05,635 --> 00:23:08,715 Speaker 1: documents Trump took to Mary Lago was above and beyond 349 00:23:08,875 --> 00:23:14,115 Speaker 1: top secret and above and beyond sensitive slash compartmented and 350 00:23:14,195 --> 00:23:16,955 Speaker 1: then before the guy on Fox could stop him, Ronald Kessler, 351 00:23:17,035 --> 00:23:20,915 Speaker 1: a Trump guy, began to explain what specific kinds of 352 00:23:20,955 --> 00:23:25,275 Speaker 1: documents would be classified and above and beyond those levels 353 00:23:25,275 --> 00:23:29,155 Speaker 1: of secrecy, the boxes of documents Trump took, Kessler said, 354 00:23:29,235 --> 00:23:34,115 Speaker 1: quote could very well include the plans for counter striking 355 00:23:34,155 --> 00:23:37,515 Speaker 1: against Russia in the event of a nuclear attack. That's 356 00:23:37,515 --> 00:23:40,035 Speaker 1: something that's part of the football program, which I've written about, 357 00:23:40,115 --> 00:23:43,235 Speaker 1: where the president chooses options from these documents on how 358 00:23:43,235 --> 00:23:46,475 Speaker 1: to respond. He has to respond within twenty minutes to 359 00:23:46,475 --> 00:23:49,515 Speaker 1: prevent annihilation of the United States. That's one item that 360 00:23:49,515 --> 00:23:54,195 Speaker 1: could be in these documents. Unquote. At marri a Lago 361 00:23:54,995 --> 00:24:01,035 Speaker 1: last August, he said this united States nuclear programs. It 362 00:24:01,075 --> 00:24:04,555 Speaker 1: says in the indictment document, potential vulnerabilities of the United States, 363 00:24:04,795 --> 00:24:07,915 Speaker 1: it says in the document and its allies to military attacks. 364 00:24:08,035 --> 00:24:10,955 Speaker 1: It says in the document plans for possible retaliation to 365 00:24:10,995 --> 00:24:15,475 Speaker 1: a foreign attack. Ronald Kessler saw all that and said 366 00:24:15,515 --> 00:24:18,315 Speaker 1: all that two hundred and eighty nine days ago, and 367 00:24:18,395 --> 00:24:20,915 Speaker 1: he said something else. And I still don't know, and 368 00:24:20,995 --> 00:24:23,875 Speaker 1: we still don't know that his second speculation is not 369 00:24:23,995 --> 00:24:27,595 Speaker 1: as correct as his first. Kesler also believed that Trump 370 00:24:27,675 --> 00:24:31,595 Speaker 1: might be holding on to quote, our penetrations by the 371 00:24:31,635 --> 00:24:35,955 Speaker 1: CIA of foreign embassies, of foreign leaders like Putin, as 372 00:24:36,035 --> 00:24:39,915 Speaker 1: well as recruitment of spies overseas. So we're talking about 373 00:24:39,955 --> 00:24:44,435 Speaker 1: incredibly valuable secrets that the Russians, of course, would have 374 00:24:44,515 --> 00:24:49,475 Speaker 1: been after the Russians would have been trying to penetrate 375 00:24:49,515 --> 00:24:52,835 Speaker 1: marri A lago day and night, he said, and very 376 00:24:52,955 --> 00:25:02,515 Speaker 1: possibly did recruit spies to obtain these documents. These documents, 377 00:25:03,555 --> 00:25:07,275 Speaker 1: they were next to toilet and on storage room floors, 378 00:25:08,315 --> 00:25:12,395 Speaker 1: and on the bandstand in a ballroom and near the pool. 379 00:25:13,755 --> 00:25:17,675 Speaker 1: Never mind whether Trump sold them, as David from half joked. 380 00:25:18,075 --> 00:25:20,435 Speaker 1: How did the Russians not steal them? How did the 381 00:25:20,515 --> 00:25:24,595 Speaker 1: Chinese not steal them? How did the North Koreans not 382 00:25:24,675 --> 00:25:28,795 Speaker 1: steal them? How did the Saudis not steal them? And 383 00:25:28,955 --> 00:25:33,115 Speaker 1: more terrifying, still more terrifying again, and what keeps me 384 00:25:33,275 --> 00:25:39,795 Speaker 1: up at night? How can we be certain that nobody 385 00:25:39,835 --> 00:25:46,875 Speaker 1: did steal them? The rest of this edition of the 386 00:25:46,915 --> 00:25:51,155 Speaker 1: podcast is from the Friday edition, before the full scope 387 00:25:51,155 --> 00:25:54,115 Speaker 1: of the thirty seven count indictment was revealed. It had 388 00:25:54,115 --> 00:25:56,035 Speaker 1: been written in the wake of Trump's announcement of his 389 00:25:56,075 --> 00:25:58,755 Speaker 1: own indictment of seven counts, which, like everything else he's 390 00:25:58,795 --> 00:26:03,075 Speaker 1: ever said, was a lie. If you heard Friday's podcast, 391 00:26:03,115 --> 00:26:04,755 Speaker 1: there is no need to stay through the break. If 392 00:26:04,795 --> 00:26:07,515 Speaker 1: you did not please, you have my invitation to do so. 393 00:26:07,555 --> 00:26:11,835 Speaker 1: It's pretty good, although the advertisers would probably prefer I 394 00:26:11,915 --> 00:26:14,715 Speaker 1: not say any of that. That's next. This is countdown. 395 00:26:25,795 --> 00:26:29,155 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has been indicted on seven charges, and the 396 00:26:29,195 --> 00:26:33,075 Speaker 1: foremost of them is clearly a violation of the Espionage Act, 397 00:26:33,435 --> 00:26:37,075 Speaker 1: specifically one designed to send to prison for up to 398 00:26:37,195 --> 00:26:43,595 Speaker 1: ten years someone who was legally allowed to possess unclassified 399 00:26:43,715 --> 00:26:47,795 Speaker 1: national defense information, but who refused to return that information 400 00:26:47,915 --> 00:26:51,315 Speaker 1: in whatever form it took, to the proper government authorities. 401 00:26:52,195 --> 00:26:55,555 Speaker 1: It is eighteen US Code seven nine to three D, 402 00:26:56,435 --> 00:27:00,595 Speaker 1: and it fits the allegations against Trump better than any 403 00:27:00,795 --> 00:27:06,435 Speaker 1: of his suits. It erases all his states defenses and excuses, 404 00:27:06,555 --> 00:27:10,715 Speaker 1: like Trump's belief he owned a magic wand of declassification 405 00:27:11,195 --> 00:27:13,995 Speaker 1: and a new defense posited in just the last few 406 00:27:14,075 --> 00:27:16,675 Speaker 1: days that he was the president, so of course he 407 00:27:16,715 --> 00:27:20,195 Speaker 1: had the right to possess and keep all defense information. 408 00:27:21,035 --> 00:27:25,115 Speaker 1: Eighteen US Code seven nine to three D describes a 409 00:27:25,195 --> 00:27:31,235 Speaker 1: crime involving information that is not classified which the defendant 410 00:27:31,275 --> 00:27:34,875 Speaker 1: at some point did have the right to possess and 411 00:27:34,995 --> 00:27:39,395 Speaker 1: it's still illegal. Eighteen US Codes seven nine to three 412 00:27:39,555 --> 00:27:45,395 Speaker 1: D would seemingly box Trump in without the possibility of escape. 413 00:27:45,555 --> 00:27:49,275 Speaker 1: Trump's lawyer, James Trusty told CNN last night he has 414 00:27:49,355 --> 00:27:52,635 Speaker 1: not even seen the actual indictment, but only had broad 415 00:27:52,835 --> 00:27:56,475 Speaker 1: strokes painted to him, and he mentioned the wilful retention 416 00:27:56,675 --> 00:28:00,715 Speaker 1: part of the Espionage Act, thus essentially confirming eighteen US 417 00:28:00,755 --> 00:28:04,155 Speaker 1: Code seven nine three D. He mentioned multiple charges about 418 00:28:04,195 --> 00:28:09,955 Speaker 1: false statements about conspiracy, and quote several obstruction based charges, 419 00:28:10,675 --> 00:28:16,115 Speaker 1: including witness tampering, to go back to the beginning. At 420 00:28:16,155 --> 00:28:20,795 Speaker 1: approximately seven pm Eastern daylight time on Thursday, June eighth, 421 00:28:20,915 --> 00:28:24,435 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, his attorneys were informed by the Department 422 00:28:24,475 --> 00:28:27,875 Speaker 1: of Justice by phone, and he was then informed by 423 00:28:27,915 --> 00:28:31,795 Speaker 1: those attorneys that Trump had been indicted in Miami on 424 00:28:31,915 --> 00:28:35,795 Speaker 1: seven separate sealed counts of criminal conduct, none of them 425 00:28:35,835 --> 00:28:39,315 Speaker 1: yet formally revealed to the public, but clearly pertaining to 426 00:28:39,355 --> 00:28:42,955 Speaker 1: the classified and defense documents he stole and kept in 427 00:28:42,995 --> 00:28:46,515 Speaker 1: his home and his office at marri Lago, and reportedly 428 00:28:46,555 --> 00:28:50,915 Speaker 1: including charges of illegal retention of national defense information, conspiracy 429 00:28:50,915 --> 00:28:55,475 Speaker 1: to obstruct Justice false statements to government investigators seven counts. 430 00:28:56,115 --> 00:29:00,195 Speaker 1: For context, the usual number of indictments for former presidents 431 00:29:00,595 --> 00:29:07,635 Speaker 1: or current presidential candidates is approximately zero. CBS News is 432 00:29:07,675 --> 00:29:10,875 Speaker 1: reporting that, for all of his bravado, when that happened, 433 00:29:10,875 --> 00:29:13,835 Speaker 1: Trump reacted to the indictments with anger because Trump had 434 00:29:13,875 --> 00:29:17,315 Speaker 1: quote people in his inner circle who reassured him for 435 00:29:17,475 --> 00:29:22,635 Speaker 1: months that it was very unlikely to happen. The entire 436 00:29:22,755 --> 00:29:26,115 Speaker 1: Miami grand jury process was apparently news to him, and 437 00:29:26,195 --> 00:29:29,115 Speaker 1: he really believed there was a chance that the meeting 438 00:29:29,275 --> 00:29:33,835 Speaker 1: between his attorneys Trustee and Rowley and Halligan with Jack Smith, 439 00:29:33,875 --> 00:29:37,035 Speaker 1: the Special Counsel, on Monday might have turned into some 440 00:29:37,235 --> 00:29:41,915 Speaker 1: form of negotiation. CBS also reports Trump's team now will 441 00:29:41,955 --> 00:29:45,475 Speaker 1: move to dismiss and to try to question Jack Smith 442 00:29:45,875 --> 00:29:49,355 Speaker 1: or j Bratt of the Justice Department the ladder over 443 00:29:49,355 --> 00:29:52,915 Speaker 1: a casual remark he made to one witnesses lawyers about 444 00:29:52,955 --> 00:29:56,915 Speaker 1: the lawyer's application to become a judge, which Trump's lawyers 445 00:29:56,915 --> 00:29:58,875 Speaker 1: will now try to blow up into a reason that 446 00:29:58,955 --> 00:30:02,035 Speaker 1: Trump should walk on all of these charges and all 447 00:30:02,075 --> 00:30:07,835 Speaker 1: other charges forever and ever ever. Trump is also reported 448 00:30:08,075 --> 00:30:11,395 Speaker 1: shocked by the reported cooperation of his former chief of 449 00:30:11,435 --> 00:30:15,435 Speaker 1: staff Mark Meadows, and CBS's Robert Costa quotes a Trump 450 00:30:15,515 --> 00:30:19,875 Speaker 1: ally as fuming, quote, why the f has he been 451 00:30:19,955 --> 00:30:26,155 Speaker 1: so quiet? Well, I can answer that the specifics of 452 00:30:26,195 --> 00:30:29,315 Speaker 1: what is the first federal indictment of a former president 453 00:30:29,435 --> 00:30:33,475 Speaker 1: only because Richard Nixon was preemptively pardoned by the president 454 00:30:33,475 --> 00:30:37,395 Speaker 1: who succeeded him, Gerald Ford, are as of recording time 455 00:30:37,755 --> 00:30:42,395 Speaker 1: entirely unofficial and just sourced. But the centerpiece of all 456 00:30:42,435 --> 00:30:46,075 Speaker 1: reporting is, as it was phraised by ABC News, quote 457 00:30:46,355 --> 00:30:51,075 Speaker 1: willful retention of national defense information. If that is the 458 00:30:51,155 --> 00:30:55,635 Speaker 1: correct characterization, it would seem to be exactly what the 459 00:30:55,755 --> 00:30:59,755 Speaker 1: UK paper The Independent had reported on Wednesday that Special 460 00:30:59,795 --> 00:31:03,915 Speaker 1: Counsel Smith had made the deliberate decision to prosecute Trump 461 00:31:04,035 --> 00:31:08,435 Speaker 1: not for step feeling or possessing classified information, but to 462 00:31:08,515 --> 00:31:11,995 Speaker 1: proceed instead under eighteen US Code seven nine to three. 463 00:31:12,475 --> 00:31:16,195 Speaker 1: As that newspapers Andrew Feinberg wrote, the use of section 464 00:31:16,355 --> 00:31:19,875 Speaker 1: seven nine three, which does not make reference to classified information, 465 00:31:20,355 --> 00:31:24,235 Speaker 1: is understood to be a strategic decision by prosecutors that 466 00:31:24,315 --> 00:31:26,995 Speaker 1: has been made to short circuit mister Trump's ability to 467 00:31:26,995 --> 00:31:31,035 Speaker 1: claim that he used his authority as president to declassified 468 00:31:31,075 --> 00:31:35,715 Speaker 1: documents He removed from a White House on quote. Conviction 469 00:31:35,915 --> 00:31:39,995 Speaker 1: for violation of that Code seven nine three Gathering, transmitting, 470 00:31:40,155 --> 00:31:44,995 Speaker 1: or losing defense information carries a penalty of a fine 471 00:31:45,675 --> 00:31:48,235 Speaker 1: or of up to ten years in prison, or both. 472 00:31:49,035 --> 00:31:54,835 Speaker 1: Since Paragraph D lists fourteen different kinds of defense information 473 00:31:55,315 --> 00:31:59,675 Speaker 1: fourteen different forms of defense information, let me abridge the 474 00:31:59,715 --> 00:32:03,195 Speaker 1: code somewhat as I read it to you. Quote. Whoever 475 00:32:03,515 --> 00:32:08,795 Speaker 1: lawfully having possession of access, to, control, over, or being 476 00:32:09,075 --> 00:32:12,915 Speaker 1: entrusted with any document, et cetera relating to the national 477 00:32:12,955 --> 00:32:17,795 Speaker 1: defense willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it 478 00:32:17,955 --> 00:32:21,675 Speaker 1: on demand to the officer or employee of the United 479 00:32:21,675 --> 00:32:25,315 Speaker 1: States entitled to receive it on quote is guilty of 480 00:32:25,395 --> 00:32:29,595 Speaker 1: violating that statute. That not only reads as if it 481 00:32:29,635 --> 00:32:33,555 Speaker 1: were written to describe exactly what Trump did with all 482 00:32:33,675 --> 00:32:37,315 Speaker 1: the documents, but as suggested previously, it denies Trump any 483 00:32:37,395 --> 00:32:41,155 Speaker 1: claim that he had declassified those materials because the climb 484 00:32:41,155 --> 00:32:45,595 Speaker 1: does not depend on their being any classified materials. It 485 00:32:45,715 --> 00:32:50,475 Speaker 1: circumvents the entirety of Trump's declassification defense, and were he 486 00:32:50,595 --> 00:32:53,155 Speaker 1: now to try to defend himself by modifying it to 487 00:32:53,155 --> 00:32:56,075 Speaker 1: claim that he had the right to possess the defense 488 00:32:56,195 --> 00:33:01,075 Speaker 1: information that is also irrelevant the first clause of this 489 00:33:01,275 --> 00:33:04,475 Speaker 1: magic wand eighteen US Code seventy nine to three D 490 00:33:04,675 --> 00:33:13,475 Speaker 1: he whoever lawfully having possession of defense information. Moreover, we 491 00:33:13,635 --> 00:33:16,955 Speaker 1: may have previously been given a preview of exactly what 492 00:33:17,195 --> 00:33:21,155 Speaker 1: that defense information is, or at least what one piece 493 00:33:21,195 --> 00:33:24,475 Speaker 1: of that defense information could be, even if there are 494 00:33:24,555 --> 00:33:28,115 Speaker 1: multiple allegations, even if there is just one indictment for 495 00:33:28,275 --> 00:33:32,675 Speaker 1: ten thousand pieces of paper. On May thirty first, CNN 496 00:33:32,755 --> 00:33:35,835 Speaker 1: reported that Trump had been recorded by the ghostwriters for 497 00:33:35,995 --> 00:33:40,915 Speaker 1: Mark Meadows, referring to seemingly holding in his hands, seemingly 498 00:33:41,035 --> 00:33:44,635 Speaker 1: paraphrasing what Trump said was a four page document from 499 00:33:44,675 --> 00:33:47,035 Speaker 1: the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Millie, 500 00:33:47,395 --> 00:33:51,035 Speaker 1: which outlined United States military plans for an attack on Iran. 501 00:33:51,755 --> 00:33:54,475 Speaker 1: Trump refers to the fact on the recording that he 502 00:33:54,555 --> 00:33:57,635 Speaker 1: cannot just show it to the writers because he can't 503 00:33:57,755 --> 00:34:02,635 Speaker 1: unilaterally declassify material. There was also subsequent reporting that the 504 00:34:02,715 --> 00:34:07,035 Speaker 1: National Archives asked for the return of a document matching 505 00:34:07,115 --> 00:34:10,835 Speaker 1: Trump's own description of the four page milli Iran plan, 506 00:34:11,515 --> 00:34:17,155 Speaker 1: but Trump's lawyers could not find it, and by all 507 00:34:17,235 --> 00:34:23,475 Speaker 1: accounts did not and have not returned it. I referred 508 00:34:23,635 --> 00:34:26,795 Speaker 1: to this four page document on this podcast on that 509 00:34:26,955 --> 00:34:31,555 Speaker 1: date as the smoking gun. I think I'll stick with 510 00:34:31,555 --> 00:34:35,955 Speaker 1: that reference. Of course, any charge under eighteen US Code 511 00:34:35,995 --> 00:34:38,515 Speaker 1: seventy nine to three D would be so broad, could 512 00:34:38,595 --> 00:34:41,835 Speaker 1: be so broad that it could contain almost any document 513 00:34:41,915 --> 00:34:45,435 Speaker 1: Trump kept, or all of them, or just the classified ones, 514 00:34:45,635 --> 00:34:48,195 Speaker 1: or just the unclassified ones, or just the ones he 515 00:34:48,235 --> 00:34:51,675 Speaker 1: claimed had been declassified. It doesn't matter if Trump actually 516 00:34:51,795 --> 00:34:55,955 Speaker 1: had some kind of magic wand it matters only that 517 00:34:56,115 --> 00:35:01,755 Speaker 1: Jack Smith has won. Now we do not and probably 518 00:35:01,835 --> 00:35:05,355 Speaker 1: will not, have any kind of understanding of the math. 519 00:35:05,995 --> 00:35:09,595 Speaker 1: Where do seven counts come from? When virtually all reporting 520 00:35:09,635 --> 00:35:13,275 Speaker 1: creates three column headings for the crimes of Donald Trump? 521 00:35:13,435 --> 00:35:17,995 Speaker 1: Again to quote ABC's reporting willful retention of national defense information, 522 00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:21,915 Speaker 1: Well we got that one clear, I hope conspiracy scheme 523 00:35:22,155 --> 00:35:28,515 Speaker 1: to conceal and false statements and representations, for the impeccable 524 00:35:28,635 --> 00:35:33,315 Speaker 1: Ryan Goodman of Just Security, Scheme to conceal could easily 525 00:35:33,315 --> 00:35:37,835 Speaker 1: be eighteen US Code one zero zero one quote. Whoever, 526 00:35:37,955 --> 00:35:41,315 Speaker 1: in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, 527 00:35:41,395 --> 00:35:45,635 Speaker 1: or judicial branch of the government, falsifies, conceals, or covers 528 00:35:45,715 --> 00:35:49,395 Speaker 1: up by any trick, scheme, or device, a material fact 529 00:35:49,555 --> 00:35:53,835 Speaker 1: unquote relevant to a prosecution that carries fines or prison 530 00:35:54,275 --> 00:35:59,715 Speaker 1: up to five years for doing that false statements. That's 531 00:35:59,715 --> 00:36:02,315 Speaker 1: a little less obvious, since there is no evidence that 532 00:36:02,395 --> 00:36:06,715 Speaker 1: Trump himself has made any statement to any official in 533 00:36:06,755 --> 00:36:11,315 Speaker 1: this investigation. That, after all, is the art of being Trump. 534 00:36:11,875 --> 00:36:15,515 Speaker 1: You don't go on the record that guy does. But 535 00:36:15,555 --> 00:36:18,755 Speaker 1: the New York Times observes Trump could still be guilty 536 00:36:18,915 --> 00:36:24,115 Speaker 1: of violating eighteen US Code two. Quote. Whoever commits an 537 00:36:24,155 --> 00:36:29,075 Speaker 1: offense against the United States or aids, bets Council's commands, 538 00:36:29,155 --> 00:36:34,755 Speaker 1: induces or procures its commission is punishable as a principle. 539 00:36:35,595 --> 00:36:39,035 Speaker 1: Slight translation here, if you caused it to happen, it's 540 00:36:39,075 --> 00:36:43,075 Speaker 1: the same as you actually doing it yourself. To resume 541 00:36:43,155 --> 00:36:47,155 Speaker 1: eighteen US Code two, whoever willfully causes an act to 542 00:36:47,195 --> 00:36:50,715 Speaker 1: be done, which, if directly performed by him or another, 543 00:36:50,835 --> 00:36:54,235 Speaker 1: would be on offense against the United States is punishable 544 00:36:54,555 --> 00:36:58,595 Speaker 1: as a principle. Well, what on earth could that be 545 00:36:59,315 --> 00:37:02,795 Speaker 1: that could easily be making his own attorney Evan Corcoran 546 00:37:02,915 --> 00:37:06,195 Speaker 1: draw up that document saying that a thorough search of 547 00:37:06,235 --> 00:37:09,875 Speaker 1: Mari Lago had been conducted, and these thirty eight classified 548 00:37:09,955 --> 00:37:14,075 Speaker 1: documents were all we found, and here's Christina Bob's signature 549 00:37:14,075 --> 00:37:16,955 Speaker 1: on it at the bottom, when in fact, Trump himself 550 00:37:16,955 --> 00:37:19,715 Speaker 1: had made sure that it could not have been a 551 00:37:19,875 --> 00:37:23,515 Speaker 1: thorough search because he moved all the boxes back and forth, 552 00:37:23,595 --> 00:37:25,955 Speaker 1: and he kept Corcoran from searching anywhere but in the 553 00:37:25,995 --> 00:37:29,035 Speaker 1: storage room. Or it could be what I mentioned to 554 00:37:29,075 --> 00:37:33,395 Speaker 1: you yesterday, this newly reported fascination that prosecutors have with 555 00:37:33,475 --> 00:37:36,835 Speaker 1: the original draft of a January twenty twenty two statement 556 00:37:37,275 --> 00:37:40,715 Speaker 1: that included a claim that everything had been returned to 557 00:37:40,755 --> 00:37:44,875 Speaker 1: the archives, then a claim that was removed from the 558 00:37:44,915 --> 00:37:49,995 Speaker 1: final statement on the matter in January twenty twenty two. Again, 559 00:37:50,715 --> 00:37:53,795 Speaker 1: this is all just reading tea leaves, and we are 560 00:37:53,835 --> 00:37:56,995 Speaker 1: reading tea leaves because by Department of Justice code of 561 00:37:57,035 --> 00:38:01,235 Speaker 1: honor or god knows what the indictment is sealed, that 562 00:38:01,435 --> 00:38:04,835 Speaker 1: secrecy by the Special Council has left the entire their 563 00:38:05,035 --> 00:38:09,515 Speaker 1: publicity playing field clear for Trump and every Republican under 564 00:38:09,555 --> 00:38:12,195 Speaker 1: the sun to get out their version of this write 565 00:38:12,235 --> 00:38:15,475 Speaker 1: down to Trump in fact being the first to reveal 566 00:38:15,635 --> 00:38:19,075 Speaker 1: his own indictment in a social media post at seven 567 00:38:19,075 --> 00:38:22,955 Speaker 1: to twenty one pm Eastern quote, the corrupt Biden administration 568 00:38:23,075 --> 00:38:26,435 Speaker 1: has informed my attorneys that I have been indicted seemingly 569 00:38:26,475 --> 00:38:29,995 Speaker 1: over the boxes, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, followed 570 00:38:30,035 --> 00:38:33,035 Speaker 1: by I have been summoned to appear at the Federal 571 00:38:33,075 --> 00:38:37,035 Speaker 1: Courthouse in Miami on Tuesday at three pm. He did 572 00:38:37,035 --> 00:38:42,235 Speaker 1: not add be there aloha. There followed an avalanche of 573 00:38:42,315 --> 00:38:46,275 Speaker 1: Banana Republic references and a blitz of fundraising emails, and 574 00:38:46,315 --> 00:38:51,515 Speaker 1: a promise from the unintentional parody presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswami 575 00:38:51,555 --> 00:38:55,875 Speaker 1: to pardon Trump on January twentieth, twenty twenty five, which, 576 00:38:55,955 --> 00:38:59,715 Speaker 1: given Trump's intention to be president again and his insistence 577 00:38:59,875 --> 00:39:02,155 Speaker 1: that he is innocent, may not be the flex that 578 00:39:02,235 --> 00:39:07,235 Speaker 1: Ramaswami thinks. It is. A couple of brief scenes off 579 00:39:07,395 --> 00:39:11,435 Speaker 1: stage worth noting The New York Times Glen Thrush may 580 00:39:11,475 --> 00:39:15,075 Speaker 1: have seen the indictment in real time shortly before three 581 00:39:15,075 --> 00:39:17,995 Speaker 1: point thirty yesterday in the courtyard of the Justice Department, 582 00:39:18,075 --> 00:39:22,555 Speaker 1: writes Thrush. Quote Marshall Miller, a top Department official who 583 00:39:22,595 --> 00:39:26,075 Speaker 1: acted as an intermediary with the Special Council, raced out 584 00:39:26,115 --> 00:39:28,435 Speaker 1: of the building with a wad of papers in his 585 00:39:28,515 --> 00:39:33,315 Speaker 1: hand and an aid in tow. Also, the reputation of 586 00:39:33,355 --> 00:39:38,115 Speaker 1: the Secret Service continues to disintegrate. The Washington Post Rights 587 00:39:38,715 --> 00:39:42,275 Speaker 1: Secret Service officials in Washington and members of Trump's security 588 00:39:42,275 --> 00:39:46,315 Speaker 1: detail accompanying him in New Jersey were caught off guard 589 00:39:46,995 --> 00:39:49,835 Speaker 1: by his announcement Thursday night that he had been indicted. 590 00:39:50,315 --> 00:39:53,595 Speaker 1: Within moments of his post, untruth, social Secret Service officials 591 00:39:53,595 --> 00:39:57,235 Speaker 1: began emailing one another and setting in motion a series 592 00:39:57,275 --> 00:40:04,555 Speaker 1: of planning meetings in Washington and Miami. Really, they were surprise, 593 00:40:06,435 --> 00:40:10,795 Speaker 1: how what happened here? Did the Secret Service transfer those 594 00:40:10,835 --> 00:40:12,835 Speaker 1: agents who had been guarding the home of the National 595 00:40:12,835 --> 00:40:17,275 Speaker 1: Security Advisor Jake Sullivan back in April when an intoxicated 596 00:40:17,315 --> 00:40:20,435 Speaker 1: man sash Aid, passed every last one of them at 597 00:40:20,435 --> 00:40:23,275 Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning and broke into Sullivan's house. 598 00:40:23,555 --> 00:40:25,755 Speaker 1: And they never noticed because they were too busy looking 599 00:40:25,795 --> 00:40:28,955 Speaker 1: at their cell phones, And they didn't know about it 600 00:40:29,035 --> 00:40:34,795 Speaker 1: until Sulliban came out and told them himself. Same guys surprised. 601 00:40:36,635 --> 00:40:41,195 Speaker 1: Other notes, Newt Gingrich testified yesterday presumably about Trump bilking 602 00:40:41,235 --> 00:40:43,835 Speaker 1: his own roobs for funds to fight as stolen election 603 00:40:43,955 --> 00:40:46,875 Speaker 1: that he knew was not stolen. Or about the fake 604 00:40:46,915 --> 00:40:50,475 Speaker 1: elector's scheme, or both, and that serves as a reminder 605 00:40:50,875 --> 00:40:55,435 Speaker 1: that Jack Smith's investigations and possible charges against Trump continue 606 00:40:55,555 --> 00:41:00,275 Speaker 1: on all other fronts. Also, Steve Mannon has been subpoened, 607 00:41:00,595 --> 00:41:03,755 Speaker 1: and the Biden White House insists that it learned of 608 00:41:03,795 --> 00:41:09,595 Speaker 1: the indictment's last night only when they saw it in media. 609 00:41:09,795 --> 00:41:11,555 Speaker 1: You know, I did get out one of the first 610 00:41:11,555 --> 00:41:16,475 Speaker 1: tweets on the Trump announcement. I'm hoping they saw that. Lastly, 611 00:41:17,195 --> 00:41:22,795 Speaker 1: since man's most distant ancestor climbed the primordial ooze, every 612 00:41:23,075 --> 00:41:27,555 Speaker 1: momentous event in our history has always been accompanied by 613 00:41:28,075 --> 00:41:32,995 Speaker 1: an equally momentous stupid event. There was the twenty one 614 00:41:33,035 --> 00:41:36,755 Speaker 1: gun salute in which the honoree got shot. There was 615 00:41:36,795 --> 00:41:39,275 Speaker 1: the new state of the art baseball stadium that opened 616 00:41:39,635 --> 00:41:42,075 Speaker 1: without a press box for the reporters to sit in. 617 00:41:42,755 --> 00:41:48,715 Speaker 1: And now there is Trump's indictment announcement and the worst 618 00:41:48,755 --> 00:41:56,115 Speaker 1: home video ever recorded. It is a masterpiece of missteps. 619 00:41:56,995 --> 00:42:01,075 Speaker 1: It is on the rushmore of rushed work. It is 620 00:42:01,435 --> 00:42:06,475 Speaker 1: a new high in low Trump posted it at seven 621 00:42:06,475 --> 00:42:09,915 Speaker 1: point fifty seven from his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey. 622 00:42:10,475 --> 00:42:13,995 Speaker 1: He is standing in front of a large painting seemingly 623 00:42:14,035 --> 00:42:17,755 Speaker 1: depicting a white house office scene from the late nineteenth century. 624 00:42:18,395 --> 00:42:23,395 Speaker 1: Trump has been positioned directly under an overhead spotlight of 625 00:42:23,435 --> 00:42:27,395 Speaker 1: some kind, so his flock of seagulls comb over that 626 00:42:27,475 --> 00:42:32,035 Speaker 1: he has honed to exactly his preferred shade of spray 627 00:42:32,115 --> 00:42:37,435 Speaker 1: on gold rustolium has instead been bleached white, and it 628 00:42:37,515 --> 00:42:41,355 Speaker 1: looks like a white yamica that has slid forward towards 629 00:42:41,355 --> 00:42:45,995 Speaker 1: his bright white eyebrows. He is also perfectly placed in 630 00:42:46,035 --> 00:42:48,235 Speaker 1: front of that painting in such a way that a 631 00:42:48,275 --> 00:42:51,395 Speaker 1: man in the painting who is standing I think it 632 00:42:51,435 --> 00:42:55,275 Speaker 1: could be President Chester A. Arthur, or even President Grover Cleveland, 633 00:42:55,675 --> 00:42:59,475 Speaker 1: although the body language suggests it's mister Peanut. The man 634 00:42:59,555 --> 00:43:03,115 Speaker 1: in the painting is perfectly positioned and seems to be 635 00:43:03,155 --> 00:43:06,235 Speaker 1: about a foot tall and seems to be standing on 636 00:43:07,155 --> 00:43:13,475 Speaker 1: top of Trump's right shoulder. If this great gazoo effect 637 00:43:13,515 --> 00:43:18,315 Speaker 1: were not already hilarious enough, the man standing on Trump's shoulder, 638 00:43:18,875 --> 00:43:23,275 Speaker 1: the foot tall man on Trump's shoulder, is twirling his 639 00:43:23,635 --> 00:43:28,755 Speaker 1: mustache like he is snidely whiplash who has just tied 640 00:43:29,675 --> 00:43:34,195 Speaker 1: nol Fenwick to the railroad tracks, and he is standing 641 00:43:34,675 --> 00:43:40,155 Speaker 1: on Trump's shoulder as Trump announces he has been indicted 642 00:43:40,235 --> 00:43:46,995 Speaker 1: for crimes against the United States of America. What a 643 00:43:47,195 --> 00:43:51,115 Speaker 1: fitting way to end the coverage of the first time 644 00:43:51,315 --> 00:43:57,275 Speaker 1: in our hist Oh wait, I forgot something I forgot 645 00:43:58,115 --> 00:44:06,955 Speaker 1: there's new lyrics to my favorite song. Godd indicted in Miami, 646 00:44:08,635 --> 00:44:14,515 Speaker 1: Dan Don accounts, Argona Club. Book me and bail me, 647 00:44:15,155 --> 00:44:18,315 Speaker 1: try me and jail me, but get me to the 648 00:44:18,555 --> 00:44:29,035 Speaker 1: trial on time. Thank you, Nancy Faust. Also of interest 649 00:44:29,115 --> 00:44:33,475 Speaker 1: here as if we could possibly possibly top the indictment 650 00:44:33,635 --> 00:44:39,315 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump on seven different charges. Also of interest 651 00:44:39,355 --> 00:44:43,195 Speaker 1: here a name you thought you had been done with 652 00:44:43,355 --> 00:44:47,915 Speaker 1: hearing me say ever again? Ah, But CNN's year to 653 00:44:47,995 --> 00:44:52,155 Speaker 1: year advertising information has come out. I will go over 654 00:44:52,315 --> 00:44:55,395 Speaker 1: all of it because it doesn't take as long as 655 00:44:55,435 --> 00:44:59,795 Speaker 1: it should, because it's down forty percent from last year. 656 00:45:00,475 --> 00:45:06,195 Speaker 1: Last year before they ever heard the name that's next. 657 00:45:06,355 --> 00:45:11,755 Speaker 1: This discountdown, you know, this is countdown with uh you 658 00:45:11,795 --> 00:45:19,515 Speaker 1: know Keith Alberman postscripts to do some headlines, some updates, 659 00:45:19,515 --> 00:45:23,995 Speaker 1: some snarks, some predictions, dateline the Supreme Court, somebody got scared. 660 00:45:24,395 --> 00:45:28,995 Speaker 1: Chief Justice Roberts and Brett party down. Cavanaugh lined up 661 00:45:29,035 --> 00:45:33,235 Speaker 1: with the three liberals to strike down Alabama's racist congressional map, 662 00:45:33,635 --> 00:45:36,595 Speaker 1: upholding a key part of the Voting Rights Act, with 663 00:45:36,755 --> 00:45:41,795 Speaker 1: such alacrity that within hours, the Cook Political Report changed 664 00:45:41,955 --> 00:45:45,635 Speaker 1: five of its congressional predictions for next year. Alabama's first 665 00:45:45,635 --> 00:45:49,235 Speaker 1: and second districts and the Louisiana fifth and sixth go 666 00:45:49,355 --> 00:45:52,915 Speaker 1: from solid Republican to toss up, and the North Carolina 667 00:45:52,995 --> 00:45:57,195 Speaker 1: first goes from toss up to lean Democratic. As some 668 00:45:57,275 --> 00:46:01,435 Speaker 1: political observers observed, the Court may have just given the 669 00:46:01,435 --> 00:46:04,795 Speaker 1: Democrats the House back, if that weren't shocking any u. 670 00:46:04,955 --> 00:46:07,875 Speaker 1: A bid to hobble medicaid and keep citizens from suing 671 00:46:07,915 --> 00:46:11,875 Speaker 1: states for violating their rights was rejected by the Court 672 00:46:11,915 --> 00:46:16,195 Speaker 1: by seven to two. The only dissenters were Alito and Thomas. Obviously, 673 00:46:16,355 --> 00:46:20,955 Speaker 1: Thomas's check has cleared. Dateline CNN Hudson Yards, New York, 674 00:46:21,035 --> 00:46:24,315 Speaker 1: Chris Lick is gone, but the memory and the stench 675 00:46:24,475 --> 00:46:28,715 Speaker 1: lingers on the advertising Research from Media Radar reports that 676 00:46:28,755 --> 00:46:32,035 Speaker 1: for the first four months of twenty twenty three, CNN's 677 00:46:32,115 --> 00:46:36,035 Speaker 1: on air and digital ad revenue had dropped forty percent 678 00:46:36,595 --> 00:46:38,835 Speaker 1: compared to the first four months of twenty twenty two 679 00:46:38,835 --> 00:46:41,675 Speaker 1: before lickt got there and started hunting for the middle 680 00:46:41,715 --> 00:46:46,435 Speaker 1: that does not exist in real terms. That's two hundred 681 00:46:46,515 --> 00:46:51,555 Speaker 1: million dollars CNN did not make for context. MSNBC lost 682 00:46:51,635 --> 00:46:54,515 Speaker 1: six point one percent of its ad revenue, Fox six 683 00:46:54,555 --> 00:46:59,955 Speaker 1: point eight, CNN forty. But I'm sure they'll figure it out, 684 00:47:00,515 --> 00:47:03,275 Speaker 1: just because their old audience is gone and there's no 685 00:47:03,435 --> 00:47:06,555 Speaker 1: stars in primetime in the morning or any other time 686 00:47:06,595 --> 00:47:27,915 Speaker 1: of the day. Thank you, Nancy Faust. Dateline, Fox quote 687 00:47:27,955 --> 00:47:31,435 Speaker 1: News unquote. It has announced that Monday, Sean Hannity's guest 688 00:47:31,475 --> 00:47:35,875 Speaker 1: will be Governor Gavin Newsom of California, who admits he 689 00:47:35,955 --> 00:47:39,955 Speaker 1: watches Fox all the time, whose ex wife, Kimberly Gilfoyle 690 00:47:40,075 --> 00:47:42,595 Speaker 1: used to be on Fox before she turned out to 691 00:47:42,635 --> 00:47:45,875 Speaker 1: be even too gross for them. Here's a question, Governor, 692 00:47:46,795 --> 00:47:50,875 Speaker 1: why why would you go on Fox? Now? Their own 693 00:47:51,075 --> 00:47:54,195 Speaker 1: viewers have their foot on Fox's neck and you go 694 00:47:54,275 --> 00:47:57,435 Speaker 1: on there. It's like Stephen A. Smith going on with Hannity. 695 00:47:57,915 --> 00:48:00,955 Speaker 1: You can only damage yourself. Then, even if you don't 696 00:48:00,995 --> 00:48:04,075 Speaker 1: actually damage yourself during the show, they have all that 697 00:48:04,195 --> 00:48:06,835 Speaker 1: tape of that they can distort out of context and 698 00:48:06,955 --> 00:48:11,595 Speaker 1: use against you next time. Democrats do not go on Fox. 699 00:48:12,235 --> 00:48:18,195 Speaker 1: They are mortally wounded, let them bleed. Dateline Alderman Broadcasting, 700 00:48:18,195 --> 00:48:22,075 Speaker 1: Empire World Headquarters, Sports Capsule Building, New York. Sometime very 701 00:48:22,155 --> 00:48:25,875 Speaker 1: late Tuesday. It looks like this podcast crossed another threshold. 702 00:48:26,315 --> 00:48:29,595 Speaker 1: Ten million downloads in a little over ten months, a million, 703 00:48:29,675 --> 00:48:32,955 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand of them last month alone. As ever, 704 00:48:33,035 --> 00:48:35,315 Speaker 1: I thank you for your support and your loyalty, and 705 00:48:35,355 --> 00:48:39,115 Speaker 1: with that uncharacteristic niceness out of the way, it's not enough, 706 00:48:39,315 --> 00:48:46,115 Speaker 1: it's not nearly enough. Tell the others stop passers by, seriously, 707 00:48:46,235 --> 00:49:02,675 Speaker 1: thank you. Coming up Fridays with Thurber and many of 708 00:49:02,715 --> 00:49:05,155 Speaker 1: his stories are clever, and many are fun. And then 709 00:49:05,195 --> 00:49:08,955 Speaker 1: there are some whose plots are worthy of Arthur Conan 710 00:49:08,995 --> 00:49:14,155 Speaker 1: Doyle or Shakespeare. The catbird Seat next first the day 711 00:49:14,155 --> 00:49:16,475 Speaker 1: he round up with the misigrants, morons and dunning Kruger 712 00:49:16,475 --> 00:49:21,115 Speaker 1: effects specimens who constitute today's bus bussons and the world 713 00:49:22,035 --> 00:49:25,755 Speaker 1: Lebron's a bunch of people bashing Gene Simmons of Kiss 714 00:49:26,035 --> 00:49:29,155 Speaker 1: because he showed up to the British Parliament and attended 715 00:49:29,195 --> 00:49:32,715 Speaker 1: Prime Minister's question time, and he visited the Irish mp 716 00:49:32,955 --> 00:49:36,755 Speaker 1: ian Paisley. Simmons also called for the restoration of the 717 00:49:36,795 --> 00:49:39,755 Speaker 1: Stormont House agreement in which power in Northern Ireland would 718 00:49:39,795 --> 00:49:42,435 Speaker 1: be shared by Irish and pro British politicians for the 719 00:49:42,475 --> 00:49:45,195 Speaker 1: benefit of citizens, and a lot of reaction here and 720 00:49:45,235 --> 00:49:49,675 Speaker 1: there was he's a rock and roll guy in face paint. 721 00:49:50,595 --> 00:49:52,795 Speaker 1: Gene Simmons also used to be a sixth grade teacher, 722 00:49:52,795 --> 00:49:56,075 Speaker 1: And I ask you this, which makes more sense Gene 723 00:49:56,075 --> 00:50:01,835 Speaker 1: Simmons in his kiss attire talking about Irish politics, or 724 00:50:01,915 --> 00:50:05,155 Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green being allowed into Congress without a tour 725 00:50:05,275 --> 00:50:10,755 Speaker 1: pass and adult supervision. The runner's up Jesse Waters and 726 00:50:10,795 --> 00:50:13,035 Speaker 1: Laura Ingram, who work at the rotting carcass of what 727 00:50:13,235 --> 00:50:17,035 Speaker 1: used to be Fox quote News unquote, don't go on there, Governor. 728 00:50:18,555 --> 00:50:21,635 Speaker 1: They continue to mock the last two days of the 729 00:50:21,675 --> 00:50:24,235 Speaker 1: air in New York and Washington and all the Atlantic 730 00:50:24,275 --> 00:50:28,715 Speaker 1: seaboard being tasteable, being so orange that, as the satirical 731 00:50:28,755 --> 00:50:30,995 Speaker 1: site Have I Got News for You pointed out, New 732 00:50:31,035 --> 00:50:34,515 Speaker 1: Yorker is urged to remain vigilant after Donald Trump is 733 00:50:34,555 --> 00:50:41,395 Speaker 1: rendered completely invisible. Waters mocked warnings to stay inside by saying, 734 00:50:41,995 --> 00:50:47,115 Speaker 1: everybody saints stay inside, but I didn't listen, which checks 735 00:50:47,115 --> 00:50:49,915 Speaker 1: out because he's a moron. A lot of stupid people 736 00:50:49,915 --> 00:50:53,115 Speaker 1: on Fox kill meat is stupid. Harris Faulkner is so stupid. 737 00:50:53,595 --> 00:50:55,555 Speaker 1: She used to have a cell phone case with her 738 00:50:55,595 --> 00:50:58,915 Speaker 1: own picture on it, apparently in case she forgot what 739 00:50:58,955 --> 00:51:03,475 Speaker 1: she looked like. But Waters is next level Ingram meanwhile 740 00:51:03,475 --> 00:51:05,995 Speaker 1: hosted a climate change to I are named Steve Molloy, 741 00:51:06,355 --> 00:51:08,355 Speaker 1: and Steve malloy said, we have this kind of air 742 00:51:08,395 --> 00:51:11,635 Speaker 1: in India and China all the time. No public health emergency. 743 00:51:11,875 --> 00:51:14,755 Speaker 1: This doesn't kill anybody, that doesn't make anybody cough. This 744 00:51:14,835 --> 00:51:17,875 Speaker 1: is not a health event. No, of course, not other 745 00:51:17,915 --> 00:51:20,635 Speaker 1: than the extra million premature deaths a year from air 746 00:51:20,675 --> 00:51:26,195 Speaker 1: pollution in China and India. Doesn't mean a thing. Ah, 747 00:51:27,795 --> 00:51:31,155 Speaker 1: I'm surprised they didn't note that. With the atmospheric patterns 748 00:51:31,195 --> 00:51:33,435 Speaker 1: suggesting that we're in for a summer of this, New 749 00:51:33,515 --> 00:51:36,995 Speaker 1: Yorkers and Washingtonians who have always wanted their own fireplace 750 00:51:37,315 --> 00:51:40,075 Speaker 1: but could not afford one to now just open a 751 00:51:40,115 --> 00:51:43,315 Speaker 1: window and make a crackling sound with some cellophane and 752 00:51:43,395 --> 00:51:47,475 Speaker 1: pretend they have one. But our winner, good old George Santos, 753 00:51:47,755 --> 00:51:49,795 Speaker 1: once again, we can do two things at once. We 754 00:51:49,835 --> 00:51:53,915 Speaker 1: can deplore his extraordinary dishonesty. That his amazing conviction that 755 00:51:54,235 --> 00:51:56,795 Speaker 1: he will continue to get away with it because so 756 00:51:56,915 --> 00:51:59,595 Speaker 1: far he has, while at the same time we can 757 00:51:59,675 --> 00:52:05,035 Speaker 1: only look at the stamina with envy, his stam in 758 00:52:05,075 --> 00:52:07,275 Speaker 1: finding ways that none of the rest of us would 759 00:52:07,275 --> 00:52:10,555 Speaker 1: have ever dreamed of to break laws, violate ethics, and 760 00:52:10,675 --> 00:52:16,275 Speaker 1: surround ourselves with the worst possible people. That Mother Jones Magazine, 761 00:52:16,355 --> 00:52:19,115 Speaker 1: David Corn and Jacqueline's Sweet report that Santos is so 762 00:52:19,235 --> 00:52:22,755 Speaker 1: corrupt that his lawyer was in the mob that attacked 763 00:52:22,755 --> 00:52:26,515 Speaker 1: the Capitol on January sixth. Now we know Santos was 764 00:52:26,595 --> 00:52:30,395 Speaker 1: in the vip section that day for Trump's stochastic terrorism 765 00:52:30,475 --> 00:52:33,555 Speaker 1: speech at the Ellipse. But now Mother Jones reports quote 766 00:52:33,715 --> 00:52:37,035 Speaker 1: newly uncovered photos and video footage of January sixth show 767 00:52:37,075 --> 00:52:40,195 Speaker 1: that his attorney, Joseph Murray, was in the angry mob 768 00:52:40,235 --> 00:52:44,795 Speaker 1: that trespassed on Capitol grounds. It appears the attorney Murray 769 00:52:44,795 --> 00:52:47,395 Speaker 1: got to the steps of the Capitol and stopped and watched. 770 00:52:48,075 --> 00:52:50,355 Speaker 1: No evidence he went in, no evidence he broke the law. 771 00:52:50,555 --> 00:52:54,355 Speaker 1: But Mother Jones says former Queen's Republican District leader Philip Grillow, 772 00:52:54,795 --> 00:52:59,595 Speaker 1: who went into the Congress through a broken window says 773 00:52:59,635 --> 00:53:02,915 Speaker 1: he himself saw Murray on the way from the Ellipse quote. 774 00:53:02,955 --> 00:53:05,675 Speaker 1: He was leading the charge up the hill. He was 775 00:53:05,835 --> 00:53:08,795 Speaker 1: urging us on, waiving us to follow him. And now 776 00:53:09,675 --> 00:53:13,875 Speaker 1: he's George Santos's lawyer. George, Yeah, but he didn't go 777 00:53:13,955 --> 00:53:21,355 Speaker 1: in the Capitol Santos. 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