1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:01,320 Speaker 1: Taking a walk. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 2: What happens when the Texas Prairie meets a well worn 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: melody and wit ride shotgun with every lyric I'm buzz 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: night and on today's taking a walk, we'll lace up 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: our boots with the legendary Lyle Lovett, a man who's 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: been taking listeners on extraordinary journeys for decades, one unforgettable 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: song at a time. Join me as we wander back 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: roads and backstage halls with the Grammy winning storyteller whose 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: music captures the heart of American life, whether he's spinning 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: tales about love, horses or the places he calls home. 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: Lovett's world is as wide as the Texas horizon itself. 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: So step outside with us, because you're going to take 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: a walk with Lyle Lovet. You never know what stories 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: you'll find around the next bend. 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: Taking a walk. 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: Hi, Lyle, hey buys by Harriet. 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 4: I'm very well, Lyle. 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: How are you right? 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: Thanks? 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 3: You're very kind to having me. 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: It's a pleasure having you on Taking a walk. 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the large band and the 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,919 Speaker 2: acoustic group. You got so many live shows to talk about. 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: But but I'm. 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 3: A little disappointed that we're not actually taking a walk. 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 4: Let's go take a walk. 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: Have you have you have you ever done one of these? 28 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: Where you where you do it? Where you are? Do 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: you do you see Kevin Eland's podcast Just Hiking with Kevin. 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 3: It's it's we should do this, we should actually do 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: you walk? 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 4: Yes, I would love that. I've done it a few times. 33 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: I was out at your mcal Caenan's fur Piece ranch 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: and we got to uh take a walk over there, 35 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: and uh I was out at uh. 36 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 4: Peter Himmelman's place in upstate New York. 37 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: So whenever possible, I like an in person walk, Lyle 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: and I would be honored one time to do it 39 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: wherever it worked for you. 40 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 3: That'd be fun. Your what a what a great character 41 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 3: he is and man just so good. I opened for 42 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: him years ago at there was a there's a great 43 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: club in Houston called Rockefellers, and it was in the 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: It was in the Old Heights. State Heights was a 45 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: neighborhood in Houston Heights State Bank and the Criners turned 46 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: it into a three hundred seat listening room and they 47 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: used to have national touring acts. And I was back 48 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: in the in the early eighties. I was one of 49 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: the local opening acts that they would call regularly, and 50 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: I got to open for Gosha, you know, plethora of 51 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: different types of performers and and it was always fun. 52 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: But one time I got to open for for for 53 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: Yarma and uh and I had I hadn't seen a 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: picture of Yarma. I didn't know Yarma and and Uh. 55 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: There was there was There was a very little backstage area. 56 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: There's just sort of one green room that led onto 57 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: the stage. And I remember getting there early because I 58 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: was an opening act. And and I saw a guy 59 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: in blue jeans and a black T shirt carrying a 60 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: guitar and an amp coming coming you know, into the building. 61 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: And I said, are you with Yorma and and uh 62 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: because he looked like a crew person, you know, I said, 63 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: you're with Yarma and he looked, he kind of looked around, 64 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: he looked both ways, and you know, Zert to make sure, 65 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: just to make sure, you know, and he said, uh, 66 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: I am Yrma. He was. He was really nice. 67 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: I love it. 68 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: I love it well other than you and I taking 69 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: a walk, which would be a dream come true. Is 70 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: there anybody else that you would love to take a 71 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: walk with, living or dead? That would be an experience 72 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: to cherish. 73 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, you know, I get to take a walk, uh, 74 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: you know, figuratively and literally sometimes with people. Watch that 75 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 3: all the time. You know, people, people, It's all about 76 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: the people, isn't it. People are fascinating and everyone has 77 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 3: a story. Everyone, you know, everyone's lives unfolds in an 78 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: individual way. And I just, you know, find it really 79 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: interesting to talk to people. And and you know, especially 80 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: you know, as as I get older and I talk 81 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: to people who are my age, to hear their interpretation 82 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: of events and how events of the world and events 83 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: of their lives affect them, and and and then to 84 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: ask people, so what does that, you know, what does 85 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: that mean? Uh to them? You know, how does all that? 86 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: You know, how does all of that that's happened to 87 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 3: someone make them feel about life in general? And the 88 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: things that people talk about, the things that are important 89 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: to people always come back to the same basic things, uh, 90 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: you know, love and family, and I mean those those 91 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: are seem to be the most important things to people. 92 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: And and I you know, I find I find people 93 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: wonderfully consistent and and then wonderfully subtly different from one another. 94 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: And there's just I think talking to anyone is an education. 95 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: I think. I think every any anybody, anybody in this 96 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: world that you happen to talk too could be that 97 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: one person that gives you an insight that you'd never 98 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 3: had before. 99 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: And the consistency is a really important thing that you mentioned. 100 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: And I find another piece of this I want to see, 101 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 2: if you agree with you also find where passion plays 102 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: in to what either the every person is thinking about 103 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: or an author, an artist, musician, their passion for their 104 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: work and their art, and then additionally the incredible resilience 105 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: that they have through ups and downs the way the 106 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: world goes. 107 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 4: Would you agree with that? Lyle? 108 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I don't know whether it's resilience or 109 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 3: you know, this mindset that says, no, I have to 110 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 3: do this, this is what I have to do. It's 111 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: almost almost an inability to do anything else. And when 112 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: you see that quality in someone, When I see that 113 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: quality in someone, I am always inspired. I'm inspired by 114 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 3: their feeling compelled to do what they do. You know, 115 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: I think it's as much about that as it is 116 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: about a determination. In terms of navigating whatever obstacles the 117 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: world throws in your way. I think it's you know, 118 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: it's almost you know, rather than rather than being a 119 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: bulldozer going down the street knocking obstacles out of the way, 120 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: the artists that seem to be successful and well adjusted, 121 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: or more like a stream of water that simply flows 122 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: its way around obstacles to get to the end. So 123 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: it's I mean, there are different approaches, certainly, but you know, 124 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: the kind of person that I would rather be myself, 125 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: it would be more of that stream of water that 126 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: flows through and makes it makes it to the end 127 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: more effortlessly. Just thinking about water, I mean brings to 128 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: mind that, you know, the flooding that we've had down 129 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: in Texas and how devastating that is. So that can 130 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 3: you know, a stream of water is one thing, but 131 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 3: but a flood like that, man, I'm sorry, I'm just 132 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: kidding on tract. But that you know that that that 133 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 3: there is a quality of, you know, a persistence that 134 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: I think any artist of any type has to have. 135 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: You know, you don't really have to work at the 136 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: persistence because because what you're doing is important enough to 137 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: you to just never stop. It's not a matter of 138 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: saying saying I have to be persistent. It's more a 139 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: matter of you know, I don't know what's going to happen, 140 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: but I can't stop doing this. 141 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: I do want to touch on the conditions that you 142 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: and you know, friends and family are keenly aware of 143 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: in Texas these days. You know, the horrible story that 144 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: we see and visualize and know about is so terrible 145 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,599 Speaker 2: and so just you know, frightening. 146 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: What can you tell us about the condition of things now? 147 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: Well, you know, people are are you know, trying trying 148 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: to It was just a memorial service on Monday in 149 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: our neighborhood. That was you know, it was so so 150 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: many people were there, It was so supported. My wife 151 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 3: April was able to go. I was we were playing 152 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: Grand Rapids Michigan, but for for an eight year old 153 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: girl who has swept away in her cabin. And she 154 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: was the granddaughter of neighbors of ours, and and who 155 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: we're close with, and and at you know, feeling that, 156 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: and and having eight year old children ourselves, you know, 157 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: you feel the impact of that especially, and and and 158 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: and you know, all I can all I can think 159 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 3: is how her father, her father spoke beautifully at service, 160 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 3: April said, And and you know, how he could even 161 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: speak at all is beyond my imagination and and you know, 162 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: you I can't help but think about how, you know, 163 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: how those families will never be the same, and yeah, 164 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: I and and think also, you know how I have 165 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: no idea how I would respond in that kind of situation. 166 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: I have no idea what that would do to me. 167 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: But so so so, you know, it's really thinking about 168 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 3: the tragedy, and you know, the the community in general, 169 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 3: you know, has been devastated, and it's wonderful to see 170 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: the support that the community is rallying to to help 171 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: help these folks. I'm my friend Robert Keene is doing 172 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: a fundraiser with some really wonderful artists on the twenty 173 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: eighth of August. I'm I'm part of I've been invited 174 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: to be part of four different fundraisers earlier in August. 175 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: George Strait has already done a fundraiser. You know, people started, 176 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: musicians and performers started wanting to help immediately, And I 177 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: haven't spoken to a single performer who hasn't just said sure, 178 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: account me in most performers are are in a better 179 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: position to to donate their time and and their performances 180 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: to to try to get people out. People people out 181 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: who can can actually financially support the organizations who are 182 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: trying to help they and they can, you know, financially 183 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: support themselves. But I don't know of a single musician 184 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: or performer who who hasn't said, yeah, just sign me up, look, 185 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: you know, whatever I can do. And and that's you know, 186 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: that's that's a wonderful thing to see. But but none, 187 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: none of that, none of that and none of that, 188 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: you know, wonderful humanity that comes from a tragedy makes 189 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: up for the loss that actually happened. And and uh, 190 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: you know, all I think all we can do as 191 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: people in the world is be sensitive to to the 192 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: people who've lost people or have lost their homes, lost 193 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: everything they had. We can all we can do is 194 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: be sensitive to them and be sympathetic to them and 195 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: to help them however we can. But nothing, nothing we 196 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 3: can do well you know, whatever, come close to making 197 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: up for their their loss in the first place. 198 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more of the Taken a 199 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: Walk Podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 200 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 2: Well, what of horses and your love of the countryside 201 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: taught you about patience and art and life. 202 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 3: I've learned so much from horses animals in general. You know, 203 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: I grew up on my grandfather's farm. My grandfather had 204 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 3: retired by the time I came along, but but his 205 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: sons ran a dairy farm on the on the place 206 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 3: and and also grew vegetables, and there was always something 207 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 3: to do, you know, there was always there was always 208 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: work to be done, and even as a little boy, 209 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 3: I and my cousins were offered, you know, offered jobs 210 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: to go and pick vegetables or helping the dairy barn, 211 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: you know, just to do anything. And I appreciate that 212 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: my uncle's and my extended family who all lived there 213 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: and part of the farm place. My mom was one 214 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: of seven children, and my grandparents offered each one of 215 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: their children, you know, an acre or two to build 216 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: homes on so that everyone would be close. And so 217 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: that's the sort of family environment I grew up in. 218 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: And I was an only child, but I was, you know, 219 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: three hundred yards from my grandparents and my aunts and 220 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: uncles and a dozen first cousins, and so I always 221 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: felt as if I was from a big family. But 222 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: there was there was always plenty to do and and 223 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: uh patients. I one of the one of the great 224 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: horsemen that I had the privilege of working with, but 225 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: not you know, not until I was in my gosh 226 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: and my my forties. But retired world champion BRONC writer 227 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: named Bill Smith, and he just passed away on the 228 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: first of June this year, Cody Bill Smith is he 229 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: was from Cody, Wyoming. Uh, and he got interested in 230 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: horsemanship after he retired from rodeo and started attending ray 231 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: Hunt clinics and uh, you know, just just the wisdom, 232 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: the wisdom he had in working with horses is so 233 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: afflicable to humanity as well. But but he used to say, 234 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: you asked me about what what uh you know, Uh, 235 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: what did I learn about patients? And what I learned 236 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: about patients? And one of Bill Smith always put it, 237 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: so succeed succeed He said, you know, people say that 238 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: you need to have patients in working with horses, he said, 239 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: but you know, he said, you only have to have 240 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: patience when nothing's happening. He said, with horses, there's always 241 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: something happening, you just have to notice it. And that 242 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: I thought it was so wise because in this world 243 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: in general, I mean, you really don't have to have 244 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: patience because there's always something happening. You just have to 245 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: see what it is. You just have to notice what's happening. 246 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: And if you pay attention to everything that's happening, you know, 247 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: you don't have time to be patient because there's always 248 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: something to do. That's that's what I learned from in 249 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: the farm life. I mean, there is always something to do. 250 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: There's always something you can do better. And you know, 251 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: in general, when you're when you're working with animals or 252 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: you're working with you know, crops, if you do the 253 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: right thing, you'll get the result you're looking for. If 254 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: you do the right thing, the right thing will happen. 255 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 3: I think that's the biggest lesson that I learned growing 256 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 3: up on the farm. Do things the right way. I 257 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 3: appreciate the process of what I do more than I 258 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 3: value the end result. I mean, I hope my goal 259 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 3: is to make a living for me and my family, 260 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: but it is also to work with people whose company 261 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 3: I enjoy every day, who I respect as people who 262 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 3: I look up to, and I am fortunate and blessed 263 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: to work with people I feel that way about on 264 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: stage and off. Members of the band are people that 265 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: I admire and look up to greatly, but also members 266 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 3: of our production crew who we count on every day 267 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 3: are people that I admire and look up to. How 268 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 3: they you know, the family people they are, How they 269 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 3: how they negotiate the difficulties as I do, you know, 270 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: having to be gone from home more than we'd like 271 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 3: to be. Uh and how how we you know, how 272 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: we have you know, we respect our jobs and what 273 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: we're doing and and they're they're people that I greatly 274 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 3: admire and and how and how you know how important 275 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 3: it is every day to to make sure we're doing 276 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: things the right way for the people who are showing 277 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 3: up at night for the show. You know, we depend 278 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: on and uh, you know, are grateful for those people 279 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 3: that come to support us, because that ultimately, that's that's 280 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 3: our only measure of whether or not we get to 281 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 3: keep our jobs. Those people that that show up at. 282 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: Night, when you think of the way their lives are, 283 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: through personal challenges in their life and the way the 284 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: world is today, tell me how it makes you feel 285 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: when you know this community has come together to come 286 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: to a show at night, to see either the acoustic 287 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 2: side of you or the large band side. What does 288 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: it mean seeing that community every night out when you're 289 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: on stage. 290 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 3: Well, you know, feeling the support of people that you know, 291 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: pay money to come to come hear what you do, 292 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 3: see what you do is a tremendous feeling. I mean, 293 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 3: is it's the permission to keep going. And no, it's 294 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 3: a wonderful feeling. 295 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 4: You know. 296 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: In my early days of performing, I started playing out 297 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: when I was eighteen years old in nineteen seventy six, 298 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: and I played anywhere that someone you know would let me, 299 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 3: At any any restaurant, hamburger joint, pizza joint that wanted 300 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 3: live music as a part of their atmosphere. I would 301 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: gladly play anywhere, and I had my own little pa 302 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 3: I could set up, and I was happy to be 303 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: to be playing anywhere, and you know, for any kind 304 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: of any kind of money. I mean, I played for 305 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: two years. I played two or three or four nights 306 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 3: a week at a Mister Gatty's Pizza in College Station, 307 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 3: Texas when I was you know, in school there. Live 308 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 3: music was part of the atmosphere, but live music was 309 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: not the point. 310 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: You know. 311 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: People didn't come there just to hear me. I mean 312 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 3: a few people may have in the old days, but 313 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: mainly people came there to have pizza, I mean, you know, 314 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 3: eventually you felt a little bit of a local audience. 315 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 3: But but you know, I played another place for for 316 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: a two year period. It was a hamburger joint. It 317 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: was my very favorite hamburger joint in college station, owned 318 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: by a fellow named Sircey Bond. It was called dead 319 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 3: solid perfect. He put two thirds of a pound of 320 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 3: meat on every hamburger and they were delicious, and he 321 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: had the only music he ever featured was was me 322 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 3: on Sunday nights from six to eight, and he paid 323 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: me actually in hamburgers. So I got eight eight hamburgers, 324 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: you know, for every gig that I played there. So 325 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 3: I you know, I had a hard time eating that 326 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 3: many myself. So I was I had I had a 327 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 3: you know, a tab built up of hamburgers available to me, 328 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 3: and and so I could you know, take my buddies 329 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 3: to lunch. I could go there kind of whenever I 330 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 3: wanted and treat my friends, which was, you know, which 331 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 3: was a great feeling. So I played places where music 332 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: was not the point early on, and I always thought about, Wow, 333 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: what would it be like, What would it be like 334 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: to play someplace where people, you know, they come to 335 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 3: hear you because they want to hear you. You know, 336 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: they're not just coming there for pizza, They're not just 337 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 3: coming there for a hamburger. They actually are coming there 338 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: on purpose to hear you. And I used to think 339 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 3: about that all the time and think about, well, what 340 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 3: a great feeling that must be, And all these years later, 341 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 3: I am able to realize what a great feeling that is. 342 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: And I appreciate it every time that the band and I, 343 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: whatever the band is with the band, anytime the band 344 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 3: and I step on stage, I appreciate those folks that come. 345 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: Well, folks can go to Lyle Lovett dot com to 346 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: see the multitude of dates that you are playing you 347 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: Rode Warrior, you and there's tickets available while looking on 348 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,239 Speaker 2: your website and uh, you're You're on the road for 349 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: a long time, sir. So there's a lot of opportunities 350 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: for folks to get to see you. 351 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 4: But this has been a thrill talking to you, Lyle. 352 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 3: It's nice on to you. It's not shoing to you. 353 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 3: Buzz the you know, playing music. And I think most 354 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: recording musicians are, you know, in the in the same 355 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: state as as I am. You know, most most recording 356 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: artists make their living playing playing live shows. These days, 357 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 3: you know, the idea of making a record and having 358 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: a record sell enough to just support you without going out, 359 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just you know, unless you're selling crazy, 360 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: crazy numbers that very few recording artists in this day 361 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: and time sell. Most performers make their living playing live 362 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 3: And I have consistently, you know, played ninety to one 363 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: hundred dates a year over the course of my career, 364 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: which which means that I'm home more than I'm gone, 365 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 3: and and and also when I'm home, you know, I'm 366 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: really home. I don't have to go to an office. 367 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: I don't have to be away from my family, which 368 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,239 Speaker 3: is sort of how I measure value these days. Is 369 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: you know, is it is it? Is it worth? Is 370 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: it worth being away from my children, you know, who 371 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: are eight years old now, I means a day away 372 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 3: means I don't get to take them to school and 373 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 3: pick them up. So it's it's a you know, it's 374 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: a pretty high bar to have to be as important 375 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 3: as that, you know. But but but playing on the 376 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: road is how we make a living. And and I'm 377 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: grateful to the people who support us. Where where are 378 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 3: you calling from? Today us. 379 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: I am in the suburb of Bossston known as Carlisle, Massachusetts. 380 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, the and the and the Boston area 381 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: is has been, you know, in New England in general, 382 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 3: has been great to me over the course of my career. 383 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: I love. Boston's just one of the great cities in 384 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 3: the world, isn't it. I loved and I've gotten to 385 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: take a couple of summers ago I was there. My 386 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: family was with me on tour there and we we 387 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: walked around the Boston Common and had a wonderful time 388 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 3: walking them the old streets of Boston. But New England, 389 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 3: we'll be in the Lowell mass this summer in a 390 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: couple of weeks. But but we Boston, Boston, New England 391 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: is you know, we we get there once a year. 392 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: You know. It amazes me really because I spent most 393 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 3: of my my youth growing up. We didn't my parents 394 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 3: both worked, we didn't travel a lot. We had I 395 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: can think of only a couple of trips where we 396 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: flew somewhere when I was growing up to take a 397 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: family vacation. So I didn't start seeing a lot of 398 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 3: the country until I started traveling to perform. And I 399 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 3: always love coming to New England. 400 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 4: You are a gem, mister Lovett. 401 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: It's an honor to speak with you. 402 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on Buzz and I appreciate your 403 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 3: helping me get the word out to your audience. And 404 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 3: for any of you folks listening, Thanks, thanks for listening. 405 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 3: Come see us. 406 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 4: Anything for you. Lyle, thank you so much, and thank 407 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 4: you Bud. 408 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 409 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: Walk podcast. Share this and other episodes with your friends 410 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: and follow us so you never miss an episode. Taking 411 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: a Walk is available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 412 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: and wherever you get your podcasts