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Speaker 3: Good morning everyone, Happy Friday, Ryan and Emily. We have

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Speaker 3: an amazing show, don't we.

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Speaker 4: Indeed we do.

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Speaker 5: Indeed we do.

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Speaker 6: I just stepped on that. I'm so sorry. That was

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Speaker 6: That was a great, enthusiastic, robust Indeed we do.

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Speaker 5: This is why we're the B team, you know. We're

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Speaker 5: working on it.

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Speaker 3: So we've got more Epstein News, more more of our

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Speaker 3: you know associates going down today. We've also got US

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Speaker 3: strangling Cuba, Mexico SENDI Navy ships.

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Speaker 5: We also have some more Ice.

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Speaker 3: News with Tom Homan ending the Minneapolis incursion.

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Speaker 5: What are they calling it? What was it?

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Speaker 3: The Raider Metro Surge Operation. Metro SERD has completed its

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Speaker 3: mission and.

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Speaker 4: Its insurgeons have been victorious.

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Speaker 6: That's right, Yes, the battle, the battle has been won.

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Speaker 3: We've got a little maya couple for me on some

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Speaker 3: James fishback stuff going down in Florida that I'd love

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Speaker 3: to talk to Emily about. And we also have don't laugh,

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Speaker 3: And we also have a congressional candidate, Ryan at ten.

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Speaker 5: Who do we got?

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Speaker 7: We got Nita Alam who in twenty twenty two I

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Speaker 7: covered this race. It was her against Valerie Fouchet. Actually

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Speaker 7: I think it's Fushi. We'll ask, well, ask Nita. And

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Speaker 7: Apak threw something like seven plus million dollars into this race.

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Speaker 7: She was a county commissioner, and it seemed like basically

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Speaker 7: because she was Muslim, there was some criticism of Israel,

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Speaker 7: but it seemed like pretty heavily coded, like let's make

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Speaker 7: sure we don't get any more Muslims into the capitol.

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Speaker 7: And she lost by something like four thousand votes. After that, Fushi,

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Speaker 7: Valerie Fushi was critical of Israel like gently a couple

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Speaker 7: of times, and so the district has been redrawn. It's

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Speaker 7: actually a little bit more favorable to Nita, who was

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Speaker 7: more progressive. And if the election like unfolded exactly as

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Speaker 7: it did in twenty twenty two, Alama actually probably wins

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Speaker 7: this time. But this time it seems like there's no

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Speaker 7: APAC support coming for Valerie Fushi because of this very

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Speaker 7: gentle criticism that she had that she had offered. You know,

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Speaker 7: when the political tide turning started turning very heavily against

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Speaker 4: Last night, a.

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Speaker 7: Superpack came in in support of Nita alam Drop apparently

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Speaker 7: dropping five hundred thousand dollars worth of ads supporting her.

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Speaker 7: We don't know who's funding that, alum. You know, probably

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Speaker 7: doesn't either. If she does, maybe she'll tell us. But

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Speaker 7: it's an interesting kind of turn of events because now

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Speaker 7: APAC might end up losing this seat that they spent

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Speaker 7: you know, seven million dollars four years ago to win.

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Speaker 3: It's beautiful and when could you what's this gentle criticism, like, well,

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Speaker 3: could you give me an example like we have seen.

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Speaker 7: On the show, because I don't know, stop killing children.

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Speaker 7: You know, it was like a little nudge in the

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Speaker 5: But it was.

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Speaker 4: It was very mild, but it was.

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Speaker 8: It was.

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Speaker 7: It was eyebrow raising enough because I think she might

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Speaker 7: was eyebrow raising because she had taken the apack. You know,

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Speaker 7: she'd taken all this a PAC money, and then she

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Speaker 7: took the APAC trip to Israel and then voted on

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Speaker 4: It's like, oh, that's this is interesting. What's going on here?

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Speaker 7: And apparently APAC not a not very forgiving and and

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Speaker 7: Bring twenty twenty five, she said, y'all know that I

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Speaker 3: Uh, well, we'll learn more about that from Nita in

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Speaker 3: just a little bit excited to hear that. But once again,

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Speaker 3: we've got a little bit more Epstein news coming down

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Speaker 3: the pike this morning. Uh In, Goldman Sachs's general counsel,

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Speaker 3: Kathy Rumler, a former top Obama administration lawyer, is out

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Speaker 3: at Goldman Sachs after email showed a friendship with the

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Speaker 3: sex offender Jeffrey Epstein spanning many years now, Ryan has

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Speaker 3: Kath has.

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Speaker 5: She shown up in your investigations at all? In your

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Speaker 5: jmail searches, She's.

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Speaker 6: In like every email. If you search the inbox, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 6: Rumbler's on this one?

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Speaker 5: Is she BC Seed? On everything?

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Speaker 4: She was?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, she was general counsel for Obama and so she

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Speaker 7: was and we've reported this. She so she the Arianda

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Speaker 7: she was with. She was on the ross Child account

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Speaker 7: She then ended up becoming the kind of the middle

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Speaker 7: attorney between Epstein and and the.

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Speaker 4: Roths Child account.

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Speaker 7: What was known as the Epstein was what was known

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Speaker 7: account and the Edmund of Rosschild Bank. She's the She's

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Speaker 7: the first roths Child to run the banking operation who

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Speaker 7: was not born a Rothschild. She's like born in El Salvador.

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Speaker 7: Is it central? She's from Central America, married into the

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Speaker 7: boss of this and Epstein and her were very close

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Speaker 7: and so Rumler managed that operation.

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Speaker 7: He also tried to connect her with Gates Bill Gates.

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Speaker 7: That didn't pan out as a as a client situation,

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Speaker 7: but Rumbler helped to then negotiate the settlement between the

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Speaker 7: Rothschild banking operations like, we don't owe you anything. We

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Speaker 7: we literally financed the creation of the state of Israel.

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Speaker 7: You think, how do we owe you anything? Is was

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Speaker 7: like no you're a nonprofit and you are supposed to

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Speaker 7: live up to your nonprofit obligations to fund these education

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Speaker 7: And so Epstein helped negotiate a settlement around around that.

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Speaker 7: We have a couple other stories coming about other things

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Speaker 7: that Epstein and Rumbler Rumler did, which I'll hold for

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Speaker 7: hold for later, but I guess it just became too

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Speaker 4: You know, you know, the the tightness of the relationship.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is she's this clo She's a chief

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Speaker 6: one of the most world and they stood by her

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Speaker 6: over and over again. She is constantly copied on emails.

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Speaker 6: She's in conversations with Steve Bannon, those conversations that Michael

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Speaker 6: wolf appears to have leaked. It's Steve Bannon, Jeffrey Epstein,

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Speaker 6: Michael Wolfe, and Kathy Rumler strategizing about public relations. Essentially,

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Speaker 6: she was a participant in that. We still don't understand

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Speaker 6: exactly what was happening in those conversations. She in one email,

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Speaker 6: brags to Epstein about getting a top award from the

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Speaker 6: CIA by John Brennan, which is very important because Kathy

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Speaker 6: Rumler was dispatched when she was GC of the Obama

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Speaker 6: Center and the ACLU were concerned about the contents and

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Speaker 6: Rumbler was the one then dealing with it. There are

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Speaker 6: calendar invites for Kathy comma NSA signal intelligence between Epstein

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Speaker 7: Which apparently that's related to our story about Yeah, I

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Speaker 7: think it is biohacking rather than what people think of

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Speaker 7: signals intelligence as intercepts of signals. He's using it in

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Speaker 7: a way I don't quite understand, but it's a reference

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, no, I think that's he's what sounds like

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Speaker 6: is he's thinking of code breaking. And he would be

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Speaker 6: we don't fully understand the complete picture of what Kathy

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Speaker 6: Rumler was doing. With Jeffrey Epstein. She was getting lavish

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Speaker 6: Very disgusting by the way, referring to him as uncle

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Speaker 6: But it's Goldman stood by Kathy Rumler for years. This

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Speaker 6: has been dogging her for years, and the emails made

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Speaker 6: it untenable because she was clearly, so intimately intimately connected

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Speaker 7: She was a.

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Speaker 6: Participant in these big picture schemes, as dropsite has reported

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Speaker 6: and as Ryan has been all over, so it would

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Speaker 6: be absurd to keep kat Rummler on. It was already

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Speaker 6: absurd enough, but this took down the clo of one

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Speaker 7: So I think I think the legal world and SAX

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Speaker 7: also lawyers are loath to ever and for good reason,

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Speaker 7: blame the lawyers for the client's behavior. If you do that,

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Speaker 7: every every defense attorney is then associated with the depravity

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Speaker 7: to draw a bright line that like look, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 7: or ethically culpable for the behavior of the client.

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Speaker 4: Otherwise, though she.

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Speaker 5: Was asking for dating advice from Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 7: And so these emails getting leaked in like with that,

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Speaker 3: Why are so many people asking for relationship advice from

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Speaker 7: Yeah, all in the same room, literally, in the same

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Speaker 7: Oh that's a former dictator, like he ran death squads

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Speaker 6: I suppose it's also possible she was a handler or something.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. It's it's hard to hard to figure

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Speaker 5: I like Ryan's defense. Ryan, you have a future at Goldman, so.

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Speaker 3: There's a there's a big opening, so you're his days

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Speaker 3: Uh subject, I beat Bush? Hi, Jeffrey, I got more

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Speaker 5: He had four. It's so funny to me, totally embarrassing

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Speaker 7: So the Internet's assessment is that this is Marco Ruby,

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Speaker 7: But this gets into a very dicey territory because you

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Speaker 4: Like what's going on?

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Speaker 5: Fraud?

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Speaker 7: What was what was Beck involved with? Like that's that

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Speaker 7: why are you redacting your name? You can't can't just

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Speaker 4: Who's in here?

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Speaker 6: Tell us?

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Speaker 4: What's that?

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Speaker 6: Tell us who she is?

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Speaker 4: Why we're a this?

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Speaker 7: She ran for Congress and she's close with Epstein clearly,

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Speaker 6: Very incredible to be Jeb. That's a huge accomplishment. I

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Speaker 4: She only ran yeah, right in Virginia's eighth district.

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Speaker 3: don't know if you've seen this one, but I wanted

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Speaker 3: you to react to it. Here this person says that

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Speaker 3: Steve Bannon's war room was Jeffrey Epstein's idea so that

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Speaker 3: Steve could avoid registering under FARA, a Bannon friend of

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Speaker 3: the pod. So here in this it says Steve Bannon

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Speaker 3: says excellent. Then there's redacted name says Yorgy Schwartz real

446
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Speaker 3: name of George Soros was careful not to register under

447
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Speaker 3: FARA NGOs were carefully structured. My reading is that you

448
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Speaker 3: can form a media company and make the umbrella exemption.

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Speaker 3: Steve Bannon says on it, then redacted says the media

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Speaker 3: co has lots of advantages, source privilege, etc.

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Speaker 5: So, Emily, what do you make of this?

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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, this was like one of the

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Speaker 6: only times I've looked at an Epstein piece of advice

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Speaker 6: and been like, well, I guess people, we're actually getting

455
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Speaker 6: decent guidance from him, because that's quite a loophole that

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Speaker 6: Epstein was steering step Bann into it. Now, I don't

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Speaker 6: think that necessarily means war Room itself is a creation.

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Speaker 6: My understanding of Steve Bannon is that he's had a

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Speaker 6: lot of companies over the years and is one of

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Speaker 6: those people that manages different things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, although he didn't create Brightbarton, it wasn't like his

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Speaker 6: own thing, but yeah, he had I think he had

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Speaker 6: a film company called like Victory Films, and he's had well,

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Speaker 6: I don't know if he created a separate entity where

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Speaker 6: he was getting, for example, money from his sources in

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Speaker 6: the kind of populist right in Europe. And I don't

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Speaker 6: know the date on this. I meant to look it

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Speaker 6: up last night. But maybe he was. He was getting money,

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Speaker 6: and then maybe that's a pastor entity to war war Room,

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Speaker 6: or maybe it's just a separate entity where he's taking

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Speaker 6: money from these people and then it goes into war Room,

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Speaker 6: and maybe potentially maybe he never created this media company

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Speaker 6: that Jeffrey Epstein was referring to, and war Room is

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Speaker 6: like some I don't know how it's formally incorporated. It

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Speaker 6: could be different. But Bannon is Boy, does this man

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Speaker 6: have a lot to answer for, because these messages are

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Speaker 6: strategies to help Epstein, to coordinate with Epstein, to have

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Speaker 6: Epstein help him to infiltrate the Trump circle. There's a

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Speaker 6: point where they're going back and forth over whether Bannon

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Speaker 6: should try to bring Jared Kushner into the kind of

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Speaker 6: populist world. And Bannon and Kushner have always been at

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Speaker 6: each other's throats, so Epstein is like encouraging him to

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Speaker 6: get in with Kushner, which is interesting for UAE purposes.

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Speaker 6: So this is just it. It's there are a million

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Speaker 6: pieces of this puzzle. I actually don't even know how

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Speaker 6: many pieces there are to this puzzle. I just know

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Speaker 6: that there's a million of them on the ground, and

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Speaker 6: none of them look particularly good for State Bannon.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it seems like Bannon is using Epstein to

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Speaker 7: try to get leverage over Trump, like he feels burned,

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Speaker 7: you know, the Trump world better, but feels burned by

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Speaker 7: getting pushed out of the White House.

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Speaker 4: He wants to kind of be.

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Speaker 7: The guy who is the you know, colonel of the

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Speaker 7: Maga army on the on the outside, and he's there's

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Speaker 7: some one very revealing message where Bannon says something like Trump,

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Speaker 7: you know, keeps Trump up at night, knowing, knowing that

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Speaker 7: we're so close to each other, which is not true

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Speaker 7: because Trump doesn't sleep, so nothing keeps him up at nights.

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Speaker 4: Just up.

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Speaker 6: He's just TV keeps him up at night, up at night.

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Speaker 4: Keeps him up.

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Speaker 7: But clearly what he like, he's getting inside and information

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Speaker 7: about Trump that that he feels like he can use

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Speaker 7: his leverage against Trump at that point to like lidify

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Speaker 7: his position in the Maga world. The fact that he's

508
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Speaker 7: maintained a position in the Maga world despite that knowledge

509
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Speaker 7: being out there is kind of wild. Like you would

510
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Speaker 7: think you get caught doing that, A proper mob boss

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Speaker 7: is like, Bannon, how could you do this to me?

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Speaker 7: Like you're you're gone, but no, like, which I think

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Speaker 7: speaks to his significant grassroots support that remains. He is,

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Speaker 7: like he has an independent power base at this point.

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Speaker 6: He is somebody who Ryan you probably listen to more

516
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Speaker 6: warroom than I do. When he's somebody who, over the

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Speaker 6: years will if there's an issue up in the air

518
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Speaker 6: and people like I don't know which way MAGA is

519
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Speaker 6: going to come down on this, Steve Bannon has the

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Speaker 6: pulse of the sort of people who are going to

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Speaker 6: go to Trump rallies, or maybe people don't even have

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Speaker 6: enough money to go to Trump rallies. Like the hardcore

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Speaker 6: grassroots populist MAGA. Steve Bannon just instinctively under stands and

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Speaker 6: to some extent, I think he understands it better than

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Speaker 6: almost anyone, with the exception of Donald Trump, who has

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Speaker 6: other concerns. You know, he knows he can shoot someone

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Speaker 6: on Fifth Avenue and the BASI is going to so

528
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Speaker 6: like when it comes down to economic populism, nat sek,

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Speaker 6: foreign policy, all of that. Steve Bannon, because he is

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Speaker 6: from Bright bar tea party world, and he's like an

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Speaker 6: ideological he's ideologically aligned with that world. He's able to

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Speaker 6: be the real like Mago Whisperer. And so what it

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Speaker 6: looks like he was trying to do is use other

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Speaker 6: very powerful wealthy people to consolidate the power of the grassroots,

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Speaker 6: to be as powerful as like to be a Maga

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Speaker 6: general in a way where he could direct behind the

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Speaker 6: scenes no matter what Trump was doing.

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Speaker 7: And speaking of the financial precarity of his audience, have

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Speaker 7: you noticed what kind of ads the band show plays.

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Speaker 4: On the war room?

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Speaker 7: Mostly no gold credit, plenty of gold credit card, debt consolidation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have tax bills that are way overdue.

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Speaker 7: You need to fight the I R S. Sulfuric acid

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Speaker 7: and then of course get Her, which I think to

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Speaker 7: this day is still advertising that you can get Charlie

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Speaker 7: Kirk's thoughts if you download the Getter apps.

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Speaker 4: Put a new ad in there.

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Speaker 6: Guys, just record another one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Think you're talking about silver solution Griffin, not sulfurc acid.

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Speaker 3: Well, what did they shift to the island. What do

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Speaker 3: they burned the bodies furic acid?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Oh they did. Oh, I thought you were talking about

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Speaker 6: like cringe ad on.

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Speaker 3: I was talking about the gallons they sent, uh you

557
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Speaker 3: know what they what they put in the tub, and

558
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Speaker 3: like breaking bad to burn the body.

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Speaker 6: There you go, there you go.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just want to say I wanted to move

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Speaker 3: on to Cuba next, but I did just want to say,

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Speaker 3: we're going to keep uncovering all the intricate details of

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Speaker 3: this and this weekend I really came to appreciate, uh,

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Speaker 3: the work that it happens on this show and from

565
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Speaker 3: drop Site, because we were at a media event over

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Speaker 3: the weekend with people that kind of imbibe a little

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Speaker 3: bit more of the mainstream coverage of the Epstein. And

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Speaker 3: when I talked to people at our at our media

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Speaker 3: table that Epstein potentially was associated with Massad and former

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Speaker 3: PM who Barack, people looked at me like I was

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Speaker 3: fucking insane, which goes to show you there's really two

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Speaker 3: there's kind of two narratives kind of happening. One that's

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Speaker 3: very surface level in the mainstream media, and one where

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Speaker 3: you're going to get a lot more of the details

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Speaker 3: and paint a much broader and filled in picture at

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Speaker 3: places like Dropsite and what we try to do here.

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Speaker 3: So I was proud of the show, and very embarrassed

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Speaker 3: at dinner because people thought I was crazy.

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Speaker 7: I was trying to think this morning, like if if

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Speaker 7: we weren't doing the work that we're doing, like what

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Speaker 7: the media landscape would look like when it would when

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Speaker 7: it came to the coverage of Jeffrey Epstein. Not that

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Speaker 7: we are remotely the first one to go down this path,

584
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Speaker 7: like Whitney Webb has done terrific work on this for

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Speaker 7: many years at this point, and plenty of you know,

586
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Speaker 7: plenty of others in the like independent space have done it,

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Speaker 7: but among those who are kind of read in the

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Speaker 7: and viewed and with a mass audience. Because if you

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Speaker 7: wanted to tell your aunt or your uncle, no, no, seriously,

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Speaker 7: there's something to this, go read this ex news article

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Speaker 7: or go watch this video that lays it out without

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Speaker 7: breaking points of drops. I'd be like, what exactly would

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Speaker 7: you send them that they would be able to read

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Speaker 7: and be like, oh, okay, this is credible and I

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Speaker 7: understand this. Twitter threads, Yeah, you know, nobody wants Twitter

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Speaker 7: threads like, especially Twitter, like the way that they're putting

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Speaker 7: this stuff out. Yeah, it's not good, and people screenshot

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Speaker 7: it and that then it's disaggregated from the source, and

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Speaker 7: then people make fake ones and like, and now DJ

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Speaker 7: has taken down like most stuff, Like they've taken down

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Speaker 7: a ton of zip files just in the last like

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Speaker 7: twenty four hours. So right now you basically have to

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Speaker 7: go to either jmail or Distributed den Aisle of Secrets

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Speaker 7: to see to get like the actual files, Like you

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Speaker 7: can't even go to doj for a lot of it

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Speaker 7: anymore to prove that it's real.

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Speaker 3: So mess and just like offering any of the details

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Speaker 3: from these shows at your at your dinner table, at

609
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Speaker 3: your social function, they're almost designed to make you sound

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Speaker 3: like a nut, right, yeah, like the way that if

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Speaker 3: you were to talk about these details, so you know,

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Speaker 3: to the audience, we've been considering doing a long form

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Speaker 3: like three four hour entire you know, encapsulation of everything

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Speaker 3: we've learned about the Epstein thing, and maybe that can

615
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Speaker 3: be a resource for you to share it to your

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Speaker 3: friends and family so you can look a little less

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Speaker 3: like a kook. So if you think that's a good idea,

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Speaker 3: let us know in the comments, And we're heavily considering that.

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Speaker 3: But that will bring us to our next topic, Ryan,

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Speaker 3: which is Cuba.

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Speaker 5: What's going on with Cuba right now?

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Speaker 3: We're strangling the island and it seems like the administration

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Speaker 3: is kind of panicking a little bit. I wanted to

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Speaker 3: put this up on screen. Several sources tell the Economists

625
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Speaker 3: the United States is considering sending small quantities of fuel

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Speaker 3: to the island, gas for cooking and diesel to keep

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Speaker 3: water infrastructure running. Rubio could easily end up as the

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Speaker 3: public face of an induced humanitarian crisis.

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Speaker 7: It's really eerie how quickly and seamlessly the US moved

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Speaker 7: Gaza policy over to Cuba. Like, in fact, they are

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Speaker 7: still withholding the humanitarian aid life essentials from Gaza. Like

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Speaker 7: they're supposed to be letting in six hundred trucks a

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Speaker 7: day into Gaza as part of this quote unquote ceasefire,

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Speaker 7: and they're also supposed to stop killing Palestinians. They've done

635
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Speaker 7: neither of those things. They're still restricting aid. They won't

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Speaker 7: even let like new tents in, Like the people living

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Speaker 7: in tents that are now like two years old and

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Speaker 7: completely destroyed from from the weather. The conditions are absolutely unspeakable.

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Speaker 7: There's like a there's a there's like this fierce like

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Speaker 7: respiratory illness that is like rocking through the Godza strip

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Speaker 7: at this point, and they haven't even ended that before.

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Speaker 7: They now replicate a version of it over in Cuba

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Speaker 7: and cut off everything and then become the the power center.

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Speaker 7: That's going to like, that's going to loosen the chokehold

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Speaker 7: a little bit. So like first first you choke them

646
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Speaker 7: completely to the brink of death, some people to death.

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Speaker 7: If you look at uh, child cancer cancer fatality rates

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Speaker 7: in Cuba, because we're not allowing in the equipment and

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Speaker 7: the supplies that you need to treat cancer, children are

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Speaker 7: dying of cancer at a much higher rate than they

651
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Speaker 7: were pretty so we're already killing people in the most

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Speaker 7: torturous kind of gruesome way. But now what they're suggesting

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Speaker 7: is uh oh, because somebody just posted an aerial photo

654
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Speaker 7: the island's like almost completely black. They're like, oh, we

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Speaker 7: are going to induce like a humanitarian crisis for these

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Speaker 7: nine million people that used to be like twelve or

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Speaker 7: so before Biden and Trump smashed the population down to nine.

658
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Speaker 7: That is going to be horrific. And we and like

659
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Speaker 7: with the healthy.

660
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 6: Assist from the Cuban government that was beating something.

661
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Speaker 7: And it's like, okay, Israel was like October seventh, October seventh,

662
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 7: October seventh, what did Cuba do? What on earth are

663
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 7: you doing to Cuba for why? Like did Cuba do?

664
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Speaker 7: Like nineteen fifty nine, like really like and it's also

665
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 7: so crazy to be like to just have finished and

666
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 7: we're not even finished. But over in Israel, it's like

667
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 7: nineteen forty eight. They talk about it a lot, and

668
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 7: the Israelis will say it's over, forget about it.

669
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Speaker 4: Nine forty it happened.

670
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 7: There's no right of return, like we're a state, now,

671
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 7: get over it, Like we're now the state of Israel.

672
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 7: We have a right to defend ourselves. We have a

673
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 7: right to exist. Anybody who is bringing up nineteen forty

674
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 7: eight is insane now over here like no, nineteen fifty nine,

675
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 7: eleven years later, that somehow is a reason to starve

676
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 7: millions of people in twenty twenty six, like can we

677
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 7: even can we get an ounce of consistency in our

678
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 7: in our like barbaric behavior toward toward people apparently not so?

679
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: Uh.

680
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 7: Putting the US in the position of loosening the chokehold

681
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 7: then gives them this power over life and death in Cuba,

682
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 7: and the idea is, and you had my camera as

683
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 7: a diplomat in Cuba going around like door to door

684
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 7: handing out supplies. So like you starve everybody and you

685
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 7: hand out a little bit of stuff that gives you

686
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 7: control over their lives.

687
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 4: And then the idea is then you can then replace.

688
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 7: You become government effectively, like if you're the one that's

689
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 7: keeping people alive, you are the government. So it's like

690
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 7: a it's like a regime replacement, subtle regime replacement without

691
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 7: doing the just don't let them, don't even worry about

692
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 7: them collapsing, like, just completely starve them, and then what

693
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 7: are they at that point?

694
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: And Emily, what's the conservative perspective on this? You know,

695
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: is is there like a threat from the Cuban government?

696
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: I mean, this is ninety miles off the shore of America. Like,

697
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: what is the conservative perspective on the need to do

698
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 3: regime change in Cuba?

699
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I don't agree with the policy prescription,

700
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 6: but one of the places where Ryan and I probably

701
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 6: disagree is that the Cold War rationale for taking Cuba

702
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 6: extremely seriously as a threat is that it's obviously right

703
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 6: for the picking of a hostile foreign actor to you know,

704
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 6: launch surveillance operations, potentially nuclear weapons and other types of

705
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 6: weapons like missiles, all those types of things when you're

706
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 6: so close to the United States and there have been

707
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 6: incursions or there have been efforts from places like China,

708
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 6: obviously still Russia, maybe a little Iran. But who knows

709
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 6: what to believe because all of this is from, you know, propaganda.

710
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 6: You don't totally know what's propaganda and what's not. But

711
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 6: the potential for it to be co opted by a

712
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 6: hostile foreign actor is there. And obviously the Cuban government

713
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 6: works heavily with other countries that haven't been friendly with

714
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 6: the United States for various reasons. I'm not saying it's

715
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 6: all just because they're you know, they're they're inherently bad

716
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 6: people and we we're just perfectly innocent. But Cuba has

717
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 6: a government. I think it's a little bit on like

718
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 6: Gaza in that respect that like they do have a government,

719
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 6: they have government infrastructure. Yes, it's true the blocka it

720
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 6: has been very problematic for them, but I think it's

721
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 6: also that they bear some of the blame. That said, Conservatives,

722
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 6: in my mind, are wrong to continue this policy of

723
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 6: just blockading starving, trying to do what Kissinger said to

724
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 6: Nixon about Allende and what nineteen seventy three make the

725
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 6: economy screen, and then you'll be able to do your

726
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 6: regime change. Has not worked in Cuba for decades, is

727
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 6: not currently working in Iran either. I mean, we'll see

728
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 6: what happens. But to keep recycling that playbook when you have,

729
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 6: especially a country like Cuba that is right off of

730
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 6: your coast and that you now have a significant amount

731
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 6: of leverage over and could genuinely try to thaw the

732
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 6: relationship with in a way that is better for everyone,

733
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 6: is better for the Malnur's children, who if you don't

734
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 6: want kids like let's just say you're the most conservative

735
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 6: person in the world, and you don't want kids starving

736
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 6: under socialism, that's what you see happening in Cuban. You

737
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 6: don't want that to happen anymore. There's actually a better way.

738
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 6: There's actually a better way. There's actually a better way.

739
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 6: The United States has relationships with all kinds of different

740
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 6: countries that have all kinds of different governments, And if

741
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 6: you want to stop suffering in Cuba, you at some

742
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 6: point probably can do that. And now is a great

743
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 6: time actually to do that because of the amount of

744
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 6: leverage that exists. So to just act like this is

745
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 6: a stand against socialism is obviously absurd. And right now

746
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 6: there's a pathway to ending suffering or alleviating suffering that's

747
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 6: better for both the United States and for the people

748
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 6: of Cuba. I know a lot of conservatives disagree with that.

749
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 6: But if if Venezuela is any example, if you want

750
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 6: to take the Trump playbook and you want to recycle that,

751
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 6: there might be some way whatever it looks like if

752
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 6: you're conservative. So that's something they think about.

753
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, the Cubans have said they'll what do you want

754
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 7: to negotiate, democracy, human rights, direct foreign investment, tourism, like

755
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 7: what like we're put it on the table, let's talk.

756
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 7: It is very true what Emily said that the conservative

757
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 7: argument is that Cuba is some sort of a threat.

758
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 7: I feel like that's rooted in this like nineteen sixties

759
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 7: seventies understanding of Cuba. If you look if you look

760
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 7: at say drug in addiction and migration, like the country

761
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 7: that is the most helpful to the United States than

762
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 7: any other country in the hemisphere is Cuba when it

763
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 7: particularly when it comes to drug in addiction, like now

764
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 7: it's cut off right now because the US is trying

765
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 7: to destroy them. But they have said any any moment

766
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 7: that you want to get back to doing drug in

767
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 7: addiction in normal way, like where we go up to

768
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 7: the boat and like search it and then if it's

769
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 7: not carrying drugs, we let it go rather than execute

770
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 7: them from the sky.

771
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 4: We're happy, We're happy to do it.

772
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 7: They're like, we don't believe in executing people from the

773
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 7: sky on a suspicion. But there's like, any moment you

774
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 7: want to go back to this drug in a and

775
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 7: you know, Cuba's well positioned to do this counter narcotics

776
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 7: work that they've been doing with the US for many years.

777
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 4: I think people don't really understand.

778
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 7: That that's but that's like the US government will say

779
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 7: that out loud, like that nobody has been a better

780
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 7: partner on countering drug trafficking than Cuba. So but then

781
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 7: you get this nineteen seventies sixties era Cuban misuspisis thing.

782
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: It's like, wow, we have to nuke them.

783
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 6: Well, I was going to ask, actually, like if there's

784
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 6: anybody so if people are wondering why this seems so

785
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 6: mad It's similarly with Venezuela. It's that you have people

786
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 6: who have poured decades of their life since the Cold

787
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 6: War into these movements and are sort of stuck. They

788
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 6: would just be ad money like yeah, exactly, yeah.

789
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 7: The year of building an industry toward this, and you

790
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 7: get shouldn't be surprised, Yeah, you.

791
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 6: Get stuck in this loop, which is that you have

792
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 6: dedicated so much to the ideological goal of total incomplete

793
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 6: regime change that, like the Bay of Pigs, at some

794
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 6: point there are enough Cubans to rise up and obviously

795
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 6: didn't work done, but there are enough Cubans will rise

796
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 6: up top of the regime and bring back the next

797
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 6: Batista and everything will be great and happy. But if

798
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 6: ever there was somebody who could break that pattern and

799
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 6: shock people out of the loop, it's Trump. I mean,

800
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 6: look at what they did in Venezuela. It's a little

801
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 6: baby step in a better direction by well, I don't

802
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 6: know if it'll be better or not, but by keeping

803
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 6: Delcia Rodriguez like a direction that was not what the

804
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 6: hardcore Hawks wanted to have happened. So anyone could like

805
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 6: shake people out of this loop where Cuba is still

806
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 6: nineteen sixty. I think on principle, it's still very important

807
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 6: that you don't have China getting a foothold in Cuba.

808
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 6: That's obviously true. But if anyone could shake people out

809
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 6: of the idea that squeezing their economy and their people

810
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 6: is the way to prevent China from getting a foothold

811
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 6: in Cuba, it would be Donald Trump. So the time

812
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 6: is ripe.

813
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 3: And what is Rubio's end goal here?

814
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 5: Now?

815
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 3: The article seems to state that Rubio is getting nervous

816
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: that he's going to be the face of a humanitarian crisis,

817
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 3: but this does seem to be exactly what he's wanted

818
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 3: for a really long time. And maybe you disagree, but

819
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: is the is the end stage goal here to strangle

820
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: the island until it becomes like a US colony or.

821
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 5: What is like the file goal here?

822
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, he said a couple of weeks ago, we want

823
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 7: to see the regime fall because like that's not exactly

824
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 7: our what we're doing, but like we would love to

825
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 7: see that. He would love to see that, and he'd

826
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 7: love to see it replaced by some Boo Kelly like

827
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 7: right wing figure.

828
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: Right and now they're just like just like Gaza history

829
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: repeating itself. There is a flotilla being planned to break

830
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: the siege, much like there was a flotilla going to Gaza. Now,

831
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: what are the chances that this flotilla will have a

832
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: better chance at actually getting to Cuba or will it

833
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: just be like the idea where where America swoops in

834
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: and stops them in the ocean, Like what.

835
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 5: Is the what does that look like?

836
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 7: The problem is that like Gaza needed the things that

837
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 7: the flotilla was bringing, Now they need a lot more

838
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 7: than the flotilla was bringing, but that was real the

839
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 7: kinds of things they needed. What Cuba needs is fuel

840
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 7: and so unless the flotillas can bring oil tankers, it's good.

841
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 7: And it's nice to bring lentils and and beans and

842
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 7: you know.

843
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 4: With yeah, it's yeah.

844
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 7: It's an island, like you're gonna like people are cooking

845
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 7: with wood, Like you're going to completely DeForest that island

846
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 7: in a short amount of time, and deforestation is insanely

847
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 7: difficult to overcome, and then you start getting mud slides

848
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 7: and like like if you look at Haiti from the air,

849
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 7: you know it's completely deforested on the Haitian side because

850
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 7: of this, and it's and you look at the other side.

851
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 7: You know, it's green, so good, you know it's good

852
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 7: to raise awareness and like put political pressure, but they

853
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 7: need fuel, all.

854
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 3: Right, Well that will lead us to our congressional candidate.

855
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 7: Last update from Newsside, Russia has basically said they're not

856
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 7: going to challenge the US and bring fuel.

857
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 4: Mexico has capitulated.

858
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 7: China is the only one that is saying they're still

859
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 7: going to send as much fuel as they can, so

860
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 7: we'll see what kind of conflict that brings. China is

861
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 7: also bringing solar panels, and they've tried to accelerate accelerate

862
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 7: the installation of these solar panels. I think they're now

863
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 7: up to twenty percent of energy from renewables and solar.

864
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 7: So when in solar, so it's nowhere near enough and

865
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 7: you can't do it fast enough. You need fuel to

866
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 7: like power this through the transition. But so that's the

867
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 7: that's the state of play. China is like the only

868
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 7: one saying they're going to have we'll see what they

869
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 7: actually end up doing.

870
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 3: I read that the Mexican Navy sent two boats with

871
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 3: some supplies. I'm not sure if there was.

872
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 7: Any rentals beans, like right, not oil.

873
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 6: They don't want to be. Yeah, I mean this is Mexico, Ryan,

874
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Speaker 6: kirct me if around. Mexico is the largest supplier of

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Speaker 6: fuel to Cuba, and so that's a really, really significant

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Speaker 6: consequence of the American Empire. Honestly.

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Speaker 5: Yep, all right, Ryan, who do we got coming up next?

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Speaker 7: Well? I got Nita Alam can it for a house

879
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 7: in North Carolina running against Valerie Fushi.

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Speaker 5: She here, I shall be here in just a moment.

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Speaker 5: We'll just wait for her at this point, and.

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Speaker 6: Ryan, maybe you can while we wait tee it up.

883
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Speaker 6: I know we talked about this at the beginning of

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Speaker 6: the episode, but give us some of the backstory in

885
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 6: case people are just tuning in for this part about

886
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Speaker 6: why we're talking in today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So, Nina Lamps is from Dorham County. She was a

889
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Speaker 7: Dorham County commissioner. The way she got into politics though

890
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Speaker 7: that some of her friends were the victims of very

891
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Speaker 7: high profile hate crimes in Dorham Dorham County, and that

892
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Speaker 7: inspired her to say, I'm going I want to get

893
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Speaker 7: into public office, and she became this Durham County commissioner

894
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Speaker 7: and then in twenty twenty two ran for Congress. Was

895
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Speaker 7: very popular locally and was expected to win that race,

896
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Speaker 7: and instead APAK came in through their superpack, spending more

897
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Speaker 7: than two million dollars to try to tear her down

898
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Speaker 7: and lift up a rival candidate, Valerie Fushi. Fushi ended

899
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Speaker 7: up winning by something like four thousand votes, and so

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Speaker 7: has been a member of Congress now for a couple

901
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Speaker 7: of terms. Fushi though, so this is twenty twenty two,

902
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Speaker 7: you know, So it's January of twenty twenty three is

903
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Speaker 7: when Food she has sworn in, the combination of anger

904
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Speaker 7: from her constituents at having gotten in on the back

905
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Speaker 7: of all this a PAC money, combined with what Israel

906
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Speaker 7: did after October seventh, twenty twenty three, led her to

907
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Speaker 7: be a little bit more, a little bit critical of

908
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Speaker 7: Israel and probably more critical. And she also took it

909
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Speaker 7: like an APAC funded tript Yahoo like the whole did

910
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Speaker 7: the whole thing.

911
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Speaker 4: So she was.

912
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Speaker 7: Probably more critical of Israel than anybody else elected with

913
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Speaker 7: two million, at least two million dollars of a PAC money.

914
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Speaker 7: So it's not as if she was out there joining

915
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Speaker 7: the squad or joining others in like denouncing in a

916
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Speaker 7: really you know, confident way, what Israel was doing, but

917
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Speaker 7: raising real questions about what they were up to. And

918
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Speaker 7: then in twenty twenty five spring she set it a

919
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Speaker 7: town hall. She's like, I'm not taking a PAC money

920
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Speaker 7: and that and implied that she she had like she

921
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Speaker 7: was asked if she had regrets about it, she said, yes,

922
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Speaker 7: I took a PAC money at the time, but I'm

923
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Speaker 7: not going to take it again, you know, so I

924
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Speaker 7: want you to trust me when on that score. And

925
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Speaker 7: so now Alam is running against her again and so

926
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Speaker 7: it looks like she's not going to have the APAC

927
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Speaker 7: support and they end up losing her seat, which you

928
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Speaker 7: know it it creates complicated politics around it because you

929
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Speaker 7: do want people, right when they get in office to

930
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Speaker 7: break with a pack so that they can so that

931
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Speaker 7: they can you know, present their their own vision, like

932
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Speaker 7: whatever they think that you should do and whatever their

933
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Speaker 7: voters want them to do, Like that's what they should

934
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Speaker 7: be doing, not like what a special interest is telling

935
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Speaker 7: them to do. You do that, that's that's better for

936
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Speaker 7: democracy than doing what a super PAC tells you to do.

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Speaker 5: And we've got it right here Ryan, by the way.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, on the other hand, she came in with two

939
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Speaker 7: plus billion dollars of a PAC money and ni Alam

940
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Speaker 7: is a you know, much more progressive candidate in the race,

941
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Speaker 7: not just when it comes to Israel Palestine.

942
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Speaker 3: And she's about to get on the stage in just

943
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Speaker 3: a few minutes to a rally with Bernie Sanders, and

944
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Speaker 3: she so graciously offered to join right before that rally.

945
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Speaker 5: Let's welcome her to the show.

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Speaker 7: Hi, how are you welcome to Breaking Points?

947
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Speaker 10: Yes, I'm good, Thanks so much for having me.

948
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Speaker 7: So where's the where's the Bernie rally? Is it going

949
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Speaker 7: to be live streams? Can people watch it?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

951
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Speaker 10: So it's going to be on the Bernie's live stream.

952
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Speaker 10: I think we're also going to be cross posting it,

953
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Speaker 10: but we're having it at the Convention Center in downtown Durham.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

955
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Speaker 7: So I don't know if you were able to hear

956
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Speaker 7: the intro as you're as you're awaiting, but it looks

957
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 7: like Valerie Fushi is probably not going to get at

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Speaker 7: least a pack outside support.

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Speaker 4: We don't know, we'll see.

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Speaker 7: When is the when when does voting start and when

961
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Speaker 7: is the election?

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Speaker 10: Early voting started yesterday actually and it's running through the

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Speaker 10: twenty eighth, and then election day is March third, So

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Speaker 10: we're in the thick of it right now?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 7: Did she get crypto money in twenty twenty two? Was

967
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Speaker 7: it because there was a lot of this APEC crypto overlapped.

968
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Speaker 7: Do you remember was she one of those she.

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Speaker 10: Had Sam Bakman Freed, She was one of the protect

970
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Speaker 10: our future, Sam BigMan Freed got like things.

971
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Speaker 7: Going right for person, So he's not coming to the rescue.

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Speaker 7: What what do you what are you seeing? What are

973
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Speaker 7: you seeing as the contest plays out? Because you're like

974
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Speaker 7: you said that we're just weeks away from the election

975
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Speaker 7: at this point.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, we've been the only campaign that's been

977
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Speaker 10: out knocking on doors, talking to voters where they're at,

978
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Speaker 10: and also doing relational community organizing because what we're seeing

979
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Speaker 10: right now is that people across this country they're feeling

980
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Speaker 10: let down by our political systems. They're feeling like there's

981
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 10: no reason for them to vote. What's the purpose? The

982
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 10: systems have just failed them in so many ways. So

983
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Speaker 10: the way that we're doing things differently this race is

984
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Speaker 10: we're obviously doing the traditional like radio, male TV program,

985
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Speaker 10: but also we have our aunties and uncles in their

986
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 10: WhatsApp chats talking to each other, reminding each other to

987
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Speaker 10: vote because Ramadan is going to overlap with the election.

988
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Speaker 10: We're organizing the mosques to have if thars to the polls.

989
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Speaker 10: Holy is right after election Nay, but we're celebrating a

990
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Speaker 10: little early and going to do like adult to the polls,

991
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Speaker 10: have some music and Hannah and like bringing our community

992
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 10: together into this like way that it shows that we're

993
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 10: all accepted and we're all fighting for this same like

994
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 10: equality and dignity for everyone and.

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Speaker 7: Last one for me before and then Emi griff minocquestion.

996
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Speaker 7: So last night it was reported that there's a super

997
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 7: pack getting in to support you with almost a five

998
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,959
Speaker 7: one thousand dollars add by. It's one of these pop

999
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 7: up super packs where it won't have to disclose kind

1000
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Speaker 7: of who's funding it until until after the election. I

1001
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 7: think you've been backed by Justice Democrats.

1002
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Speaker 4: Is that right? Yes, you have, you have their endorsement.

1003
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Speaker 7: My first guest, I was like, maybe Justice Democrats to

1004
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 7: organize this. Have you heard any rumors about who? Because

1005
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Speaker 7: you're not supposed to coordinate, you're not allowed to coordinate,

1006
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 7: I should say, yeah with super packs. Have you heard

1007
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 7: any rumors about where this money is coming from? And

1008
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 7: were you surprised by it or had you heard, oh

1009
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Speaker 7: there might be this cavalry coming in.

1010
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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I'm proud to have the endorsements of so

1012
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Speaker 10: many national progressive organizations, and we're actually the first campaign

1013
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 10: of this cycle to have this coalition of progressive groups

1014
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Speaker 10: all endorse one race of Sunrise, Working Families Party, Justice Democrats,

1015
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 10: so many more, and then also Senator Bernie Sanders himself,

1016
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Speaker 10: And I mean, for me, I'm looking at it, I'm like,

1017
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Speaker 10: I highly highly doubt there's any sort of right wing

1018
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 10: billionaire or corporation behind this, because I'm not going to

1019
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Speaker 10: be any benefit to them.

1020
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I wonder I'll see if I can do

1021
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 7: some taking and figure it out. I would suspect that

1022
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Speaker 7: it is the coalition of because that that coalition Justice Democrats,

1023
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 7: Working Families Party, it's like they've done independent expenditures in

1024
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 7: the past, usually they put their name on it or

1025
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 7: not comparised like it's not it's not kind of harmful

1026
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Speaker 7: to be supported by them.

1027
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Speaker 4: So so I don't know.

1028
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 7: There's also this kind of pro Palestine super pac that launched.

1029
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 7: Maybe they're trying to copy a pack.

1030
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

1031
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think there's we're seeing a lot of progressive

1032
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 10: energy and excitement, especially like posts Soaran's victory, folks have

1033
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 10: felt like we were able to overcome ten million over yeah,

1034
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 10: over ten million dollars of corporate spending in that race,

1035
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 10: and then now even more excited from Anna Lilia Mehia's election.

1036
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 10: And I'm proud that like with our campaign, we've been

1037
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Speaker 10: running a grassroots race, or like our average contribution is

1038
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 10: like fifty dollars or something, and it's coming from working

1039
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 10: class folks in this district and across this country who

1040
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 10: understand that I'm running for the fourth congressional district, but

1041
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 10: I'm going to be a champion for everyone across this

1042
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Speaker 10: country who wants to live with dignity, which is everyone.

1043
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Speaker 3: You know.

1044
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Speaker 6: That's interesting because one of the things that divides the

1045
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 6: populace left and right when there's a lot of overlap.

1046
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Speaker 6: Because I remember when we were talking to Zoron when

1047
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Speaker 6: he was really early, like right, this was before the

1048
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 6: election had really taken off. He had just been out

1049
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 6: talking to Trump voters, and one of the things that

1050
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 6: they were agreeing on was it was sort of obvious,

1051
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 6: like paying your bills, healthcare costs, all of that. But

1052
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Speaker 6: one of the things that does divide populis left and

1053
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 6: right is immigration. And I'm curious because to me, it

1054
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 6: feels like what Obamacare did for the party movement, those

1055
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 6: of us on the right, ICE is doing to the

1056
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 6: progressive movement right now that it's become this real like

1057
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 6: the fuel that is just driving people to organize and

1058
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Speaker 6: get active. So I'm curious how you're thinking about all

1059
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 6: of that right now.

1060
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Speaker 10: Yeah, And I think, I mean, even in North Carolina,

1061
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 10: we are seeing, like, obviously there's gonna be folks who

1062
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 10: are just deeply xenophobic, who don't want immigrants and don't

1063
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 10: want people who look like me to be in this country.

1064
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 10: But if you look at there's a lot of people

1065
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 10: also in this district, this state, this country that consider

1066
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 10: themselves Republicans but are also deeply disturbed by the actions

1067
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 10: of ICE and CBP because they're not just going out

1068
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 10: and actually enforcing immigration of what their agency's title is,

1069
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 10: they're going out and terrorizing our neighbors, and they're targeting everyone.

1070
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 10: The folks that they've been killing in January have been

1071
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Speaker 10: and US citizens. They've been innocent civilians who are protesting

1072
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 10: or documenting and have been murdered. And that's using our

1073
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 10: taxpayer dollars, and I think folks across party lines should

1074
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 10: be and are enraged by that.

1075
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 7: What is the issue that you're finding resonate the most

1076
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 7: are when you know what is kind of what are

1077
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 7: you leaning leaning into?

1078
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 10: I mean, I think one of the overarching issues that

1079
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 10: we're seeing in this district and across the country is

1080
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 10: the issue of affordability. And immigration is really deep in

1081
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 10: top of mind for everyone also right now in this moment,

1082
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Speaker 10: and its personal to me as a naturalized citizen myself

1083
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 10: the daughter of immigrants from Indian Pakistan. And when it

1084
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Speaker 10: comes down to the affordability issue though, that's something to

1085
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 10: Emily what you were saying, like being able to talk

1086
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 10: to Republican voters unaffiliated Democratic voters, Like I'm a county

1087
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Speaker 10: commissioner in the Bluest District, Bluest County and North Caro,

1088
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Speaker 10: but I've built relationships with Republican county commissioners across our

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Speaker 10: state because when we talk about building our budgets as

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Speaker 10: at the county level and the challenges we face of

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Speaker 10: the state not doing their jobs to fund public education

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Speaker 10: and how that creates a greater load on our counties

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Speaker 10: and we have to balance picking up that load but

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Speaker 10: also taking care of our residents and making sure that

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Speaker 10: they're able to have, you know, their snap benefits, their

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Speaker 10: social welfare programs, all of those things actually reaching them.

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Speaker 10: And so I've built relationships with Republicans by taking away

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Speaker 10: the labels because so much of the policy that I'm

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Speaker 10: supporting and folks across this country, working class folks want,

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Speaker 10: is common sense that I'll say where the Republican commission

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Speaker 10: is actually appointed to the North Carolina Association of County Commissioners,

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Speaker 10: which is our board of all one hundred counties across

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Speaker 10: the state. I was appointed and by a Republican commissioner

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Speaker 10: to the board of directors because I talked to him

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Speaker 10: about like he's in western North Carolina, and we found

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Speaker 10: common ground that I want my residents to be able

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Speaker 10: to put food on the table. You want your residence

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Speaker 10: to be able to put food on their tables. You

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Speaker 10: want your residence to keep a roof over their heads.

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Speaker 10: I want that for my residence. And if we talk

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Speaker 10: about these issues at that human level of taking care

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Speaker 10: of one another, the national noise that we hear it's

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Speaker 10: clouding those conversations, and that's what's hurting our families, and

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Speaker 10: we're able to build relationships and actually lobby for change

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Speaker 10: at the state level together at the federal level when

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Speaker 10: we're advocating for the dignity of working class folks.

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Speaker 5: So, how is the go for a row?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Real quick?

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Speaker 7: How's the AI and the advent of AI impacting politics

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Speaker 7: in North Carolina? Because you've got the resource triangle, so

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Speaker 7: I imagine it's like, you know, really shaking things up

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Speaker 7: on that front. But what and what about the kind

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Speaker 7: of production of the you know, the power behind it?

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Speaker 4: Like, are are the data centers actually having growing a

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Speaker 4: political issue?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? They absolutely are. They We actually have an AI

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Speaker 10: data center that's being considered at the local level in Apex,

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Speaker 10: which is in this district, and residents have been coming

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Speaker 10: out strongly against it because it's going to be built

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Speaker 10: basically like right outside their neighborhoods. And Duke Energy, which

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Speaker 10: essentially has a monopoly on our electricity grid here in

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Speaker 10: North Carolina, they are already negotiating renegotiating their energy rates

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Speaker 10: with the town of Apex and basically increasing the rates

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Speaker 10: for residents to take account for the fact that they're

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Speaker 10: going to need an increased load for these AI data

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Speaker 10: centers and infrastructure needs. And so we're already seeing the

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Speaker 10: bill being passed on to our families and neighbors. And

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Speaker 10: that's why I'm the actually the only candidate, and this

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Speaker 10: came up in a town hall meeting, and I'm the

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Speaker 10: only candidate that's called to support Senator Sanders' national moratorium

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Speaker 10: on AI data centers. And it's not about hindering AI.

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Speaker 10: AI is going to exist in our world. It's not

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Speaker 10: going to go away. But how do we make sure

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Speaker 10: there are proper regulations in place that things like what

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Speaker 10: we're seeing right now with the energy electricity costs being

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Speaker 10: passed down down to the residents, millions of gallons of

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Speaker 10: water being consumed and folks is across the country just

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Speaker 10: to run a data center for one day. If folks

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Speaker 10: across the country are starting to see their taps run dry,

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Speaker 10: and we can't have that happen in our district, because again,

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Speaker 10: who is going to pay for those infrastructure costs? Where

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Speaker 10: are we going to get alternate resources of water? The

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Speaker 10: town of Apex gets their water from Jordan Lake, which

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Speaker 10: is not an indefinite bottomless lake of water.

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Speaker 4: Called it, it's a lake. Yeah, yeah, gotta be nerve wracking.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I had a one more ICE related question for you.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I did some research on some of your haters online

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Speaker 3: that are calling you the zoron Mamdanie of North Carolina,

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Speaker 3: which I don't know if that's a great attack. Seems

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Speaker 3: like people like that guy, but they were cifically saying

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Speaker 3: because you have helped citizens in North Carolina with ice Watch,

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Speaker 3: alerting people to ice presence and things like that, and

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Speaker 3: there's currently this funding battle in Congress over the DHS

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Speaker 3: over how they're going to fund it. If you were

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Speaker 3: in Congress, what are like the clear demands that you

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Speaker 3: would make to say, we're not funding DHS until these

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Speaker 3: things happen.

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Speaker 10: Look, ICE as an agency was created in the Bush

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Speaker 10: era in two thousand and three, in a post nine

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Speaker 10: to eleven world, to target my community, the Muslim community.

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Speaker 10: It was an agency that was created to dehumanize us,

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Speaker 10: to target us, to surveil us. And now we're seeing

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Speaker 10: it push to another level of extreme under Trump's administry,

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Speaker 10: to murder innocent civilians in broad daylight. And I'm seeing

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Speaker 10: even in our incumbent in this seat is saying that

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Speaker 10: she's calling for reform of ICE as an agency that

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01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 10: body cameras and unasking them will somehow keep them in check.

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Speaker 10: They're already being live streamed murdering innocent people in broad daylight.

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Speaker 10: A body camera is not going to save our neighbors.

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Speaker 10: And so I am clear in my stance that ICE

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Speaker 10: needs to be abolished. It's not an agency that's actually

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Speaker 10: making our community safer. That the way that we tackle

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Speaker 10: and address the issue of immigration is through investment in

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Speaker 10: safe and clear legal passageways for immigration, opening up our

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Speaker 10: visa programs and green cards. I'm a naturalized citizen myself.

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Speaker 10: Most people who come to this country are either refugees

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Speaker 10: who are seeking refuge from honestly, most of the times

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Speaker 10: disasters that we the United States government has funded and created,

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Speaker 10: or they're coming here like my parents did to achieve

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Speaker 10: the American dream, to raise me and my sisters, to

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Speaker 10: be able to seek opportunity and to have to dream big.

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Speaker 7: Last last one for me, I've started to see a

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Speaker 7: lot of Democrats when it comes to question of immigration, say,

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Speaker 7: you know what, we actually we made a mistake by

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Speaker 7: letting ourselves be labeled as open border democrats. Democrats that

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Speaker 7: we that we don't care come, everybody can come in.

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Speaker 7: It led to Trump getting elected, and it led to

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Speaker 7: then this Jock Conian kind of reaction to it. We

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Speaker 7: need to focus on beating back ICE, abolishing ICE, rolling

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Speaker 7: rolling back CBPS abuses, and focusing on the way that

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Speaker 7: immigration enforcement is done internally. But we have to kind

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Speaker 7: of concede some ground on the on the border.

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Speaker 4: Uh are you seeing that?

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Speaker 7: And where do you fall down on that compromise? I

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Speaker 7: guess you would call it that Democrats seem to be

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Speaker 7: making or is it like no, no, no, Actually, Biden's

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Speaker 7: border policy is something that should be supported.

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Speaker 10: I honestly don't think that immigration has been the issue

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Speaker 10: that has cost us elections. I do sincerely believe that

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Speaker 10: it is issues around affordability. And it's not just the

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Speaker 10: issue of affordability in this district, it's across the country.

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Speaker 10: Is that working class folks want to hear what their

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Speaker 10: elected officials are going to do for them. Most people

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Speaker 10: in this country are unaffiliated voters, and so they just

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Speaker 10: want to see how are you going to fight for them,

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Speaker 10: how are you going to lower their costs of living?

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Speaker 10: And I think that as Democrats, we haven't done a

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Speaker 10: good job of talking to every demographic and talking to

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Speaker 10: every voter. Because even in states like North Carolina, where

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Speaker 10: we're labeled red, but we're truly purple, we're a pretty

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Speaker 10: fifty to fifty state.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 10: Trump may have won the presidential here, but a Democratic

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Speaker 10: governor in the past three elections. And so what we

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Speaker 10: need to be doing is going into these areas and

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Speaker 10: these congressional districts that we take for granted and say

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Speaker 10: that they're read and talking to the everyday folks and

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Speaker 10: having conversations with them at that human level of like,

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Speaker 10: we know that you're struggling to make ends meet, that

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Speaker 10: your wages have stayed stagnant. North Carolina's minimum wage has

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Speaker 10: not changed over twenty years. It's been stuck at seven

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Speaker 10: dollars twenty five cents. The cost of living here is

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Speaker 10: twenty four dollars an hour. And this is how we

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Speaker 10: as Democrats or just we as your elected leaders, are

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Speaker 10: going to fight for you to raise the minimum wage

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Speaker 10: so that you can that you'll only have to work

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Speaker 10: one job to take care of your family. This is

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Speaker 10: how passing Medicare for All is going to guarantee health

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Speaker 10: care for you so that you don't have to worry

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Speaker 10: about going to the doctor or paying your rent, and

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Speaker 10: having those conversations with folks face to face, through community

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Speaker 10: town halls, through relational organizing. That's what we've struggled and

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Speaker 10: failed with I believe as a Democratic party, is that

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01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 10: we've taken these votes for granted that they're they're red,

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Speaker 10: they're going to vote read. There's no point in us

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Speaker 10: reaching out, but these aren't. We can't label our counties

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Speaker 10: and our districts as red or blue when it's all

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Speaker 10: working class folks.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, Well we got we got anything else before we

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Speaker 3: let her go on to her very busy day with

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Speaker 3: that rally.

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Speaker 5: Big day, Big day.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we'll be watching, we'll be tuning in. We'll include

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Speaker 3: a link to your website in the description. Any any

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Speaker 3: final words before we send you off.

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Speaker 10: No, just thank you, Ryan Griffin, Emily so much for

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Speaker 10: this opportunity. I think this election, you know, it's the

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Speaker 10: first primary alongside Texas, and we have the opportunity to

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Speaker 10: show that not only can Progressives win, they can win

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Speaker 10: in the South and we're gonna be able to prove

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Speaker 10: that come March third.

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you so much for thank you so much. Thanks,

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Speaker 3: talk to you soon. All right, that'll do it for

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Speaker 3: the first half of the show, and we'll see you

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Speaker 3: back here in just a moment. All right, we are

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Speaker 3: back in the second half of the show.

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Speaker 10: Here.

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Speaker 3: We're going to release the full show altogether publicly for

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Speaker 3: everyone today.

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Speaker 5: And you know, we just talk.

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Speaker 6: It's a little teased to see what you get with

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01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 6: the premium subscription. Sometimes we act as as business people

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Speaker 6: and we have business strategies.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's so adorable. Wow.

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Speaker 3: So we were looking at a certain race in the

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Speaker 3: South and North Carolina, but I had to turn our

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Speaker 3: attention momentarily to another race in the South. I'm talking,

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Speaker 3: of course, about the Florida governor race with one James Fishback.

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Speaker 3: Have you all been keeping track of the fish Back news?

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Speaker 6: What happened?

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Speaker 5: He got suspended from Twitter? He got suspended from what.

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Speaker 4: You have to do to get suspended from Twitter? My god?

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Speaker 3: Well, even worse, he got suspended from Tinder, which is

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Speaker 3: even more challenging. That's far, far more challenging.

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Speaker 9: Me.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you.

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Speaker 7: Harvesting votes on tender. I guess that could be a

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Speaker 7: term of service violation.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: He was reaching out to women, Yeah, he was reaching

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Speaker 3: out to female voters on Tinder is what he said.

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Speaker 6: But girlfriend but he brings around with him.

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Speaker 7: Well he well, he wasn't trying to know, he was

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Speaker 7: just trying to get their votes.

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Speaker 4: That's all.

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Speaker 3: I have seen people on dating apps like now posts

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Speaker 3: that they're like plumbers and stuff like people are just

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Speaker 3: posting jobs like on them now, being like hey I

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Speaker 3: can fix your I can fix your sink or whatever.

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Speaker 6: Literally, oh, they're they're combining like task grab it with tender.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's so yeah. So look, if you're looking

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Speaker 3: for love, well maybe well you have a plumber. Uh

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Speaker 3: so in Florida. And I didn't want to offer a

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Speaker 3: mea culpa because a few episodes ago I said that

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Speaker 3: James Fishback had no motion and I was wrong, and

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Speaker 3: I'm here admitting it here on the show there is

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Speaker 3: some type of motion happening. And now I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: if this adds up to a successful political campaign, but

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Speaker 3: I did want to play a few clips here where

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Speaker 3: James Fishbeck seems to be generating some level of an

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Speaker 3: organic movement of young men down in Florida, and I

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Speaker 3: specifically wanted to highlight this clip where he referred to

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Speaker 3: cafeteria food as goy slop. So let's let's let's take

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Speaker 3: a let's take a listen to that.

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Speaker 8: My view is our our high school cafeterias should be

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Speaker 8: run by great local businesses, small business restaurants that have

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Speaker 8: local labor, that use Florida cattle, Florida produce Florida fruit

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Speaker 8: and yes, Florida orange juice. They should take over our cafeterias.

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Speaker 8: What's with the pop tarts in the Broward County public

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Speaker 8: schools in the cafeterias. I'm not saying that the test

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Speaker 8: scores are a results of the pop tarts, but if

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Speaker 8: you wanted kids to fail, if you wanted to set

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Speaker 8: up our kids for failure, you would feed them the

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Speaker 8: absolute goys slop in our cafeterias.

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Speaker 3: And for those just listening, he put his hand over

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Speaker 3: his heart at the end of that. There emotional all right.

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Speaker 7: As an old person, like, what what on earth does

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Speaker 7: he mean by goyslop?

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Speaker 3: It also implies the existence of of of Michelin star

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Speaker 3: goy like like a high class goy food as well. Uh,

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Speaker 3: you know it means well, it means it's like I mean,

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Speaker 3: isn't isn't you never heard?

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Speaker 5: This is not part of your vernacular?

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Speaker 7: Ryan, I'm not I need I need a little bit

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Speaker 7: of education on this Okay, reddit confused about goislop. I'm

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Speaker 7: gonna read a thread while you guys discuss.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, please please elucidate the entire audience. I

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Speaker 3: want the I want the Webster definition.

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Speaker 7: Let's see for well, it's like dog food, the food

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Speaker 7: made for a dog, goyslop slop for a goy for

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Speaker 7: the US And okay, so this I see.

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Speaker 4: So it's.

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Speaker 7: It's it's like playing into anti Semitic tropes that like

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Speaker 7: they're saying that the Jewish people only feed non Jewish

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Speaker 7: people dog food?

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Speaker 6: Is that?

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Speaker 4: Is that what the essentially?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, essentially, and that's what got the pop from these

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Speaker 3: young Republican kids here now listen, I mean, outside of

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Speaker 3: the vernacular usage, it is hard to debate the fact

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Speaker 3: that we do feed absolute dog food garbage to our

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Speaker 3: children and we do not invest in the we do.

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Speaker 7: And when when Michelle Obama tried to change that, she

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Speaker 7: was like presented as like this was like Mause Dun

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Speaker 7: coming back from the grave. Right, So forgive me if,

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Speaker 7: like I don't have the most amount of patients for

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Speaker 7: this argument coming from from the right, Like like why

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Speaker 7: what was wrong with Michelle saying it, except I didn't

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Speaker 7: Michelle needed more anti semitism in in her presentation in

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Speaker 7: order to be acceptable to universalists.

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Speaker 4: And non bigoted.

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Speaker 7: Potentially, Okay, so we can get good food for the kids,

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Speaker 7: but only if we like lace it with bigotry.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right now it's laced with preservatives and right and additives,

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Speaker 3: but it could use a little bit more of the

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Speaker 3: anti semitism.

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Speaker 7: And you know, I mean, you've got to raise taxes,

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Speaker 7: like property taxes, get that.

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Speaker 5: Income tax in Florida. And I don't think he's uh suggested.

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Speaker 4: That, right.

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Speaker 7: It's more expensive to have a local business make the

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Speaker 7: food with than it is to have Cisco come in

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Speaker 7: and feed them slop like that's that's just a fact.

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Speaker 7: I think that that'd be a good thing. I'm for it,

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Speaker 7: but I'd like to hear how Fishbeck is going to

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Speaker 7: pay for that. I guess he'd say he's going to

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Speaker 7: use the Israeli bonds.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, potentially, And and you know it seems illiterate.

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Speaker 4: But whatever.

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Speaker 5: The outside of the.

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Speaker 3: Specifics of the cafeteria food, which you know, I Ryan,

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Speaker 3: I know you have kids, I'm not sure what the

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Speaker 3: food's like at their schools, but just like today pizza day, Sure,

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Speaker 3: chocolate milk day.

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Speaker 4: But you know what I said, which is kind of disturbing, Like.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so the chili is not goy slap,

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Speaker 3: but everything else is. But you know, outside of the

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Speaker 3: specific vernacular, the larger picture here seems to be that

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Speaker 3: James Fishback is a new type of young Republican that

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Speaker 3: is activating young Republican voters by becoming the far right

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Speaker 3: meme come to life. I've got more footage.

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Speaker 4: Here of being straight up anti semitic, yes, but.

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Speaker 3: He's meme in all sorts of ways. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: not just the anti Semitism stuff. He claimed that someone

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Speaker 3: tried to burn down his home, so he came out

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Speaker 3: with an AR fifteen.

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Speaker 11: If you threaten our campaign, if you lay hands on

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Speaker 11: a single one of our volunteers, if you come back

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01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 11: to this home and our staff, our volunteers are working hard,

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01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 11: We're not waiting for the police.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna shoot you with.

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Speaker 8: An AR fifteen sight on scene five five six.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what we're doing.

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01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 3: So he does that, and he also got into a

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Speaker 3: very heated debate over don Lemon recently with Tara Paul

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Speaker 3: Mary that I just wanted to share a quick moment

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Speaker 3: of as well to give you a full flavor of

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Speaker 3: this guy.

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Speaker 12: If I had to go into a cave to interview

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Speaker 12: the Taliban? Am I co conspirator to interview them? If

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Speaker 12: there's a buyer inside of a church and I'm in

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Speaker 12: there covering it? Am I a co conspirator? Am I

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Speaker 12: the arsonists? Because I'm in there?

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Speaker 6: True?

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Speaker 7: If the nine to eleven highjackers gave you a heads

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Speaker 7: up and you bore to the plane to cover the

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Speaker 7: nine to eleven high jacking, and yes, you and anyone

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Speaker 7: else involved should be publicly executed.

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Speaker 12: Oh my gosh, why would I get into a plane

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Speaker 12: that's about to.

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 3: So listen, it's not just anti Semitism, it's a little

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Speaker 3: bit of everything, Ryan.

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Speaker 7: Her point is a fair one that she's got bigger

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Speaker 7: problems if she gets.

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Speaker 4: Onto the into the natal line.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think sort those charges out later.

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Speaker 7: You know, he's he's polling in the double titches and

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Speaker 7: how he was at like two percent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I saw a pole that's had him at

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01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 3: like twenty percent with his opponent buyer in at like

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01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 3: thirty five or what have you.

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Speaker 7: So the latest latest Paul is Donald's up fifteen. I

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Speaker 7: don't think it's a very reputable poll. But previous polls, Mason,

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Speaker 7: there's a Mason Dixon pole which is more credible, that

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Speaker 7: has Donald at thirty seven and fish Back at three, and.

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Speaker 4: That's the January poll.

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Speaker 7: I like, that's much more credible than this Patriot polling

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Speaker 7: that are people are circulating. It's like A and Ryan.

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Speaker 3: I've also heard rumors, and I haven't been able to

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01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 3: confirm this yet, but there are rumors that he's not

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01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,600
Speaker 3: even eligible to run in Florida because he has not

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01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 3: lived in a Florida residence for seven years. There are apparently,

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Speaker 3: allegedly some records that show that he had a d

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01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 3: C based home up to twenty and twenty five, which

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Speaker 3: wouldn't even make him eligible technically.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not gonna be other Byron Donald's internal polls,

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01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 7: but still that like they have him no. Forty Donald's

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01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 7: forty seven, Fishback five.

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Speaker 3: I think ultimately what I am seeing from this Fishback thing,

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01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 3: whether this is a real race or not, is is

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01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 3: I guess the question. The larger question for me is

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Speaker 3: is this a lens into the future of activating young Republican.

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01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 5: Voters to the means. It's interesting the memes in real life.

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01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, so far as not trans on the ground into votes, but.

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Speaker 3: It is translated into these viral videos, these these crowd

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Speaker 3: clips or.

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Speaker 7: What disconnect there, Yeah, which I think Republicans should pay

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01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 7: close attention to, Like is in doing it for you

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01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 7: unless you're just trying to grow an audience on the internet.

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Speaker 7: Grow A lot of people are, But if you're trying

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01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 7: to win elections, went over the electorate, it's not happening.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, well that was my James fishback update. Just

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Speaker 3: wanted to keep everyone ahead of what's going on over there.

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Speaker 3: There is another race, uh that we've been looking at

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Speaker 3: for a little bit, mister James Talerico h versus Jasmine

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Speaker 3: Crockett Ryan. What is going on with this Tallarico Crockett race.

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Speaker 3: We've talked a little bit behind the scenes about it.

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Speaker 3: But but what do you make of this? And and

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Speaker 3: who would you say has the better chance here between

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Speaker 3: the two?

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Speaker 5: If you were if you were voting in Texas.

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Speaker 7: US you want to I want to poll some polling up,

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01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 7: but see what we got the in the in the poll.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll play this video while, uh, while we look

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Speaker 3: for some polling here, because Talllarco, you know, does seem

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Speaker 3: to be imbibing some of the new democratic energy around

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01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:22,600
Speaker 3: the oligarchy. He's been talking a lot about class warfare

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01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 3: in the such Let's take.

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Speaker 7: A listen, and how is that not just like pushing

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01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:28,799
Speaker 7: for class warfare.

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01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 13: We already have class warfare in this country. It's the

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01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 13: billionaires waging war against the rest of us, and right

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01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 13: now the billionaires are winning. They've been winning for fifty years.

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01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 13: Trickle down economics is not a theory. It is theft.

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01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 13: For fifty years. For fifty years, the billionaires have been

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01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 13: stealing from the American people, stealing the wealth that we created.

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01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,799
Speaker 13: It's why everyone is so angry right now. It's why

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01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 13: no matter how hard you work, you can't seem to

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01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 13: get ahead. The American people are not asking for a

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01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 13: lot a job. We don't hate, a house big enough

1495
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 13: to rape the family in and a little left over

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01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,799
Speaker 13: so we can go on vacation every once in a while.

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Speaker 13: That is a lot harder than it should be, harder

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Speaker 13: than it should be in America. So I'm not fighting

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Speaker 13: for class warfare. I'm fighting for the American dream.

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Speaker 3: So that is Tallerico fighting for the American dream, and

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Speaker 3: that does seem to be like what he has been

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Speaker 3: kind of pushing over and over again, whereas the Jasmine

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Speaker 3: Crockett side seems to be solely around I'm going to

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Speaker 3: fight Donald Trump.

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Speaker 5: I pissed.

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01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:51,799
Speaker 3: I triggered Donald Trump, and I'm the one that triggers

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump the most.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the first clip of his I saw

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Speaker 7: circulating more like, Okay, this guy's like all right, I'm

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Speaker 7: listening now, Okay, let's hear what else you got. I

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Speaker 7: still think he's got the problem that he kind of

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01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 7: looks like he's seventeen, not to be shallow, but like,

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Speaker 7: you know, voting that matters to voters. So I'm looking

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Speaker 7: here at the time summary. There's been three polls that

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Speaker 7: are not internal polls in January. Two of them have

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Speaker 7: Crockett up. The University of Houston, the School of Public

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Speaker 7: Policy there has crocketted up eight. Slingshot Strategies poll Texas

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Speaker 7: Public Opinion Research has crocked up one, and then Emerson

1519
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 7: College is good pollster sponsored by next Star, which is

1520
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 7: the News Nation and local news conglomerate, has Tallerico up

1521
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 7: nine over Crockett. So it feels like the polling is

1522
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 7: basically tilting Crocket's way a little bit, but not in

1523
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 7: a way that you would say that this race is

1524
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 7: any anywhere near over.

1525
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 3: And this is after there was, you know, two weeks ago,

1526
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 3: and we covered on the show here what was supposed

1527
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 3: to be sort of like an identity politics kill shot

1528
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 3: on Tallarico where they said, oh, he called Colin Allred

1529
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 3: a mediocre black man or whatever, you know, which potentially

1530
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 3: maybe back in twenty eighteen that might have been it,

1531
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 3: but it doesn't really seem to have fully put the

1532
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 3: you know, the holes in his tires.

1533
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 7: I you know, he denied it, and then all Red

1534
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 7: and Crockett, you know, came in for some significant criticism

1535
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 7: from National Democrats for kind of going in on it. So, yeah,

1536
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 7: that is a different state of affairs than would have

1537
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 7: existed a couple of years ago.

1538
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 3: And you know, tall Urico seems to be, you know,

1539
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 3: he's catching the wave of the anti oligarchy. People are

1540
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 3: mad at the billionaires or what have you, and he

1541
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 3: says the billionaires are are what's wrong. But I just

1542
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 3: had did a little bit of research and I had

1543
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 3: to fla this political article dem Darling Tylarrico showered with

1544
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 3: Miriam Addelson linked money. A group funded by Adelson was

1545
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:12,560
Speaker 3: the biggest donor to James Tallerco's campaign last.

1546
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 7: Year, his his like state legislative campaign, his and so

1547
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:21,520
Speaker 7: his defense of this has been it's kind of a

1548
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 7: funny defense. It's like, this was not about Israel. This

1549
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 7: was about gambling.

1550
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 5: Perfect.

1551
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 4: It was.

1552
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 7: It was for this casino that Adamson Empire, uh, you know,

1553
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 7: wanted to build in Texas. So it's like, okay, all right,

1554
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 7: well the best we can do.

1555
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 3: I guess what one's gotta go, Israel or gambling. It's

1556
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 3: your pig, Bryan, you can't have. But you can't have both.

1557
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 4: Well, I mean.

1558
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 7: One of them is committing a genocide. The other is, yeah,

1559
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 7: utterly cutting like the entire like finances of country. I

1560
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 7: would get rid of. The one doing the genocide will

1561
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 7: not get rid of, but like have them end their genocide.

1562
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

1563
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's us. We're pro gambling now as long

1564
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 3: as we can end the genocide. I feel really good

1565
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 3: about that.

1566
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 7: He could also just say I'm not taking any super

1567
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 7: pac money or any adults in money, no matter what

1568
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 7: the cause is.

1569
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 5: I do think it's a sign that they're there.

1570
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 7: Obviously, she's not giving him money for a Senate campaign either.

1571
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 3: Right, but this is kind of a sign that there's

1572
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 3: going to be a lot more centrist Dems that are

1573
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 3: like I get it, yo, Like whatever Bernie's saying, anti oligarchy,

1574
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 3: sure whatever, just don't look into like any of my

1575
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 3: past and like we're good. So we'll see how that

1576
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 3: strategy works and if the DEM base is is cognizant

1577
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 3: enough or or or shrewd enough to pick apart the

1578
01:26:56,160 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 3: the I don't know the conflict or the hypocrisies laden

1579
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 3: within some of these candidates. I think that leads us

1580
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 3: nicely to the end. But we'll answer just a few

1581
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 3: of your AMA questions from the audience. And Emily did not.

1582
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 3: I just want to tell Emily left. She didn't leave

1583
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,640
Speaker 3: because she was but she didn't leave because she was

1584
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 3: scared of the Fishback conversation. She tells me. She says

1585
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 3: her power went out. Coincidence, Huh. I was hoping for

1586
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 3: a virulent defense of fish Back from Emily. I guess

1587
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 3: we'll never know.

1588
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 4: I don't think we're going to get that. Yeah, I guess.

1589
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 3: We'll never know what she would have said there. But

1590
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 3: let's get to some of these am a questions. First off,

1591
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 3: someone asked, what was your experience on the Peers Morgan

1592
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 3: Show yesterday?

1593
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 5: Ryan, how did that go?

1594
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 4: Well?

1595
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 7: It was usually when Pierce Morgan's reaching out, You're like, oh, God, like,

1596
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 7: so like it's gonna be some you know, shout fest

1597
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 7: whoever can shout earliest and loudest. But they were like, no, no, no,

1598
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 7: like we just want you to come on and like

1599
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 7: talk about your reporting when it comes to Epstein and

1600
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 7: also Nenyaw's visit to d C. We did end up

1601
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 7: having time for the Nenyaw who visit to d C,

1602
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 7: and then I left, I did my did my piece,

1603
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 7: and then Dershowitz and Boz Musev just got to go

1604
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 7: at each other for half an hour over long.

1605
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 4: They went out each other.

1606
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,799
Speaker 7: So that that's actually kind of a nice ideal situation

1607
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 7: to be in. I like sharing the reporting and then

1608
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 7: the other folks can hash it out. I was in

1609
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 7: the trailer listing to Dershowitz. As I'm leaving, I'm like, oh,

1610
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 7: I kind of wish I was on for some of

1611
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 7: these some of this nonsense. But I also don't want

1612
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 7: to be there for that either. Like it's I'm very

1613
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 7: much torn in both directions.

1614
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:50,759
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, they got to institute some sort of mute

1615
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 3: button or something, but they liked the crosstalks.

1616
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 5: I'm not sure.

1617
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 3: I'm I'm not going to tell the I'm not going

1618
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 3: to tell the professionals what to.

1619
01:28:58,120 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 5: Do over there.

1620
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 3: They seem to have a good thing going. This next

1621
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 3: one is from Jack ve'd beck. He says, would you

1622
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 3: guys bring on Michael Tracy to debate Epstein stuff? I

1623
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 3: always liked him and thought he was a good faith actor,

1624
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 3: even when I disagree with him, But his takes on

1625
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 3: Epstein have been absolutely bad shit, and I would liked

1626
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:20,440
Speaker 3: it before Ryan response, We did do this already about

1627
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 3: four months ago, before this new tranch of emails came

1628
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 3: out between Sager and Tracy. So we've already had one

1629
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 3: struggle session over this. But is it time for a

1630
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:31,879
Speaker 3: Michael Tracy return?

1631
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 4: Definitely not.

1632
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 7: We also had him on, didn't we have him on

1633
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 7: a Friday show? Probably he was arguing with No.

1634
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 5: Maybe it was a counterpoints like debate show back in

1635
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 5: the day.

1636
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:51,879
Speaker 7: Counterpoints Friday. We had him on arguing something. Now yeah.

1637
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 7: Last night he was also defending Jean lu Brunell, a

1638
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 7: notorious sex trafficker who getting accused of rap going all

1639
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 7: the way back to nineteen eighties, like a documentary about

1640
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 7: it eight nineteen eighty eight, and then he continued abusing

1641
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 7: women for decades, and now you're also defending him. This

1642
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 7: this associate of Epstein's.

1643
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 3: Like, no, so yeah, I don't know. It's a lot

1644
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 3: to unpack with that, gentleman. I'll say that as well.

1645
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 3: Someone here asks s w Z says, can we get

1646
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 3: a good News by Griffin weekly round Up? I think

1647
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 3: it'd be a great addition to the Friday show. And

1648
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 3: he's the one silly enough to deliver the endorphin boost

1649
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 3: amidst his bleak weekly gestures at everything. It is kind

1650
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 3: of tough, Like there was that show that John Krasinsky

1651
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 3: did during COVID that was like some good news, and

1652
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,680
Speaker 3: I don't it those always came off as like a

1653
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 3: little a little well, I don't know, unnecessary. I'm not sure,

1654
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 3: Like should we fit in a nuggative optimism?

1655
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 5: I mean we try to.

1656
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes it's candidates that come on here, they

1657
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 3: give a little bit of optimism, like we had one

1658
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 3: on today. I mean, but I mean, what do you

1659
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 3: make Ryan, Should we be doing more good news on

1660
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 3: the show.

1661
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 7: If you want to do it, you go for it.

1662
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 7: I think we're covering the news. If it's good, we'll

1663
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 7: cover it. Unfortunately much of.

1664
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 3: It, Ryan, what do you make of the l Passo shooting.

1665
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 3: There's multiple people asking here about that, the l Passo

1666
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 3: air shut down and what is now the official story

1667
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 3: that CBP has laser beams and shot down a birthday balloon.

1668
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 7: I know Saga is pretty suspicious of that, and his

1669
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 7: UFO Radars is going off the idea that DHS would

1670
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 7: be given a laser gun and immediately deploy.

1671
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 4: It in a de irresponsible way.

1672
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 7: It has something I find very credible, and maybe they're

1673
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:12,600
Speaker 7: like exploiting CBP and DHS's like low brand among the

1674
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 7: public that like the whole public right now is like, oh,

1675
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,440
Speaker 7: these idiots were acting recklessly.

1676
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that track.

1677
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 7: So maybe maybe we're like the victims of a of

1678
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 7: a psyop because they know that we have the lowest

1679
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 7: possible opinion of the goons at CBP and ICE, so

1680
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 7: we'll believe anything.

1681
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 10: Oh.

1682
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,560
Speaker 5: I like that theory, kind of like, oh, blame it

1683
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 5: all on them.

1684
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 3: But I also just totally believe it. Yeah, yeah, and

1685
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 3: it is I mean I believe it too. That that

1686
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 3: there was a misuse of a weapon by CBP is

1687
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,639
Speaker 3: the daily story. But I think what is scarier about

1688
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 3: that to me is guys that could not get a

1689
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:59,719
Speaker 3: job being the mall security cop have laser beams.

1690
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1691
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 7: It's not ideal, not ideal at all. Powerful, like powerful

1692
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 7: enough to panic the FAA into shutting down the airspace

1693
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:10,480
Speaker 7: for ten freaking days.

1694
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, I like I was talking to Crystal

1695
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 3: about this, like the people that from the FFA, they

1696
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 3: probably just had to scramble like what the hell is

1697
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 3: going on over here? And and okay, screw it, We're

1698
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 3: shutting down the airspace for ten days. So I believe

1699
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 3: they were the adults in the room on this one, actually.

1700
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, so look forward to more laser related incidents

1701
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 3: in the future. I guess with these laser beams, Now,

1702
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 3: what's a laser beam weapon?

1703
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 4: Is this?

1704
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 5: Like, do you have you have you ever heard of

1705
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 5: this before?

1706
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 4: They exist? Yeah, they exists.

1707
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 5: It's it's just like Star Wars or is this something

1708
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 5: a little bit more?

1709
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 4: Yeah? Cool? You can you can find.

1710
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 7: You can find demonstration videos of them, like on YouTube

1711
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:02,679
Speaker 7: or something from different companies that trying trying to sell them.

1712
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 3: So I can get a laser gun, as assess, I

1713
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 3: think you would need a serious license a license for that.

1714
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, Israel is talking about, you know, moving to these

1715
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 7: laser defenses because the current like missile defense system costs

1716
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 7: them you know, or sorry, costs us you know, billions,

1717
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,759
Speaker 7: and so every time they get into a conflict with Iran,

1718
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 7: they have to spend billions launching these missiles to knock

1719
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 7: down the Irani missiles. And so they're trying to develop

1720
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 7: and claim that they have made serious strides in developing

1721
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:42,440
Speaker 7: a laser system that costs very little for each each shot. Incredible,

1722
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,639
Speaker 7: incredible things happening over there. All right, Well now now

1723
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 7: I want to shoot it.

1724
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 4: Later.

1725
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,600
Speaker 3: If the CBP guys are getting to do it, I

1726
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:52,879
Speaker 3: want to do it. Our final question is from lay MVP.

1727
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:57,679
Speaker 3: They ask breaking points. Kyle Kolinski is the dark Woke Commander,

1728
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 3: Hassan Piker the Ayatola of Woke. What are the titles

1729
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 3: of Crystal Ball and Ryan Grimm in the reawokening?

1730
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 8: Uh?

1731
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 7: Still, I'm still asleep Crystal's Uh, what kind of woke

1732
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 7: is she?

1733
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 6: Just?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. What do you think?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think you're I think your professor woke perhaps or.

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Speaker 3: And for her I mean something maybe Queen Chancellor, we

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01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 3: have to come up with it.

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Speaker 5: I've had it. Ladies are obviously their own.

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Speaker 3: Dark woke as well, So yeah, I mean, people really

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Speaker 3: liked when Kyle went on the Piers Morgan Show and

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01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 3: was very rude to one Daily Wire correspondent, and people

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Speaker 3: seem to get a lot out of that. He did

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Speaker 3: have sunglasses on, which is more conservative coded I think,

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01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,600
Speaker 3: using some of their visual language and aesthetic taking that

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Speaker 3: back from.

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Speaker 5: Them, which I like.

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Speaker 3: But do do you think that dark woke is the

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Speaker 3: future to be? To be rude and crude on the

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Speaker 3: side of on the side of woke? Is that an

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Speaker 3: effective measure maybe.

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Speaker 4: For a little while. I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I think things are changing rapidly. Nothing nothing is stable,

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Speaker 7: so seem like welcome that.

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Speaker 3: I do already sense it. In the entertainment industry and beyond.

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Speaker 3: There are podcasters and others who are starting to put

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01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 3: their fingers into the wind and feel things changing. So

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01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 3: it seems like woke was dead for about eight months,

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01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:44,719
Speaker 3: and now we've got Piers Morgan debating Megan Kelly about

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Speaker 3: the bad Bunny thing, and Piers Morgan is taking the

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Speaker 3: bad Bunny side. So it does seem like they had

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Speaker 3: a very very quick run on the Woke is dead

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01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 3: thing and Woke maybe returning very soon. So is that

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Speaker 3: some good news? I don't know, previous questioner, there's your

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01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 3: good news Woke return.

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Speaker 7: There wasn't as much latent bigotry as the Maga world

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Speaker 7: that that wing of the Maga world expected there would

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01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:12,799
Speaker 7: be because they have we now have permission to be bigoted.

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Speaker 7: Everyone's going to be bigoted, I mean, and they look

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01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 7: around like, oh, a lot of people are just not

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01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 7: don't want to do that.

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Speaker 3: And I think that buying Elon buying Twitter was actually

1772
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 3: like a poison pill for the sort of reality distortion

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01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 3: of the of the cultural conservatism because conservatives went on

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01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 3: too x now and they see, oh, everyone agrees with me,

1775
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 3: everyone thinks it's hilarious when the DHS Gov posts an

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01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 3: as MR of an immigrant in chains and that everyone

1777
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 3: likes would love it. So this is this is really

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01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 3: going to resonate with the public, and they're at the

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01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 3: top of the feed, and they're getting tons of quote

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01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:57,799
Speaker 3: unquote engagement in views. So surely this must be the

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01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 3: feeling of the nation, and so we're going to stack

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Speaker 3: our White House communications with that energy.

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Speaker 5: And most people.

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Speaker 3: Have found that kind of revolting, including many of my

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Speaker 3: young MAGA friends. You know, I've talked to many of

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Speaker 3: my young MAGA friends that voted for Trump and they go, man, like,

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01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 3: I didn't think I was voting for like, you know,

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Speaker 3: ripping a mom out of her car, Like, I don't.

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Speaker 5: Know what they thought they were voting for, but it

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01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 5: wasn't that right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I think that's right.

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Speaker 4: So that's something all right.

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Speaker 3: And that's Hey, another good news story with do them

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Speaker 3: All on the AMAS. That's gonna do it for us

1795
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 3: this week. Again, thank you so much everyone for supporting

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1797
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Speaker 3: our very intensive breakdowns of epstein news and you'll see

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Speaker 3: what our clips are getting way bigger views than normal.

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Speaker 3: stories out on drop site and for Ryan to come

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Speaker 3: on here, for Sager to come on here and have

1807
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Speaker 3: if you were to just watch the mainstream media on

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Speaker 3: these issues, you would be getting such a fractional surface

1812
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Speaker 3: view at what's going on here, and the reason that

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Speaker 3: that note, that'll do it for us here Friday, we

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Speaker 3: all help you have a great weekend and we'll see

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Speaker 3: you back in the studio on Monday.

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Speaker 4: To you