1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,977 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:19,737 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:20,097 --> 00:00:23,417 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. On this episode, 5 00:00:23,497 --> 00:00:26,777 Speaker 2: my friend Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer is with us. He 6 00:00:26,937 --> 00:00:31,337 Speaker 2: is a retired Department of Defense operative. He also heads 7 00:00:31,337 --> 00:00:35,857 Speaker 2: a project sentinel over at the London Center, author of 8 00:00:35,897 --> 00:00:40,897 Speaker 2: Operation dark Heart. A man of many skills and many stories. 9 00:00:41,017 --> 00:00:45,177 Speaker 2: Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer, Tony, great to have you, answer, Buck. 10 00:00:45,217 --> 00:00:46,857 Speaker 1: It's good to be on. I listen to you every day. 11 00:00:46,857 --> 00:00:49,217 Speaker 1: I appreciate the time you're taking to kind of go 12 00:00:49,217 --> 00:00:50,617 Speaker 1: through and do a deep dive and a couple of 13 00:00:50,657 --> 00:00:52,817 Speaker 1: these issues. So thank you. 14 00:00:52,857 --> 00:00:55,257 Speaker 2: Apparently, apparently you also have excellent taste in some of 15 00:00:55,297 --> 00:00:59,737 Speaker 2: your radio programming, which I very much appreciate. So let's 16 00:00:59,737 --> 00:01:02,137 Speaker 2: start with the it's not getting a lot of attention 17 00:01:02,657 --> 00:01:05,617 Speaker 2: in a lot of the media, and they're kind of 18 00:01:05,657 --> 00:01:09,657 Speaker 2: covering it in this very who cares way, no big deal. 19 00:01:10,177 --> 00:01:13,697 Speaker 2: But the Secretary of State Blanken was just over in 20 00:01:13,817 --> 00:01:17,537 Speaker 2: China and he said, I mean, he said a bunch 21 00:01:17,577 --> 00:01:20,617 Speaker 2: of things. One of things you said is Taiwanese independence 22 00:01:20,657 --> 00:01:24,297 Speaker 2: is not US policies, which I'm sitting here saying, okay, 23 00:01:24,377 --> 00:01:28,777 Speaker 2: so Tony, what is Biden administration policy with regard to Taiwan? 24 00:01:28,857 --> 00:01:29,537 Speaker 2: Do they even know? 25 00:01:31,177 --> 00:01:33,937 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they do, and it's not good. So I've 26 00:01:34,017 --> 00:01:38,897 Speaker 1: listened intently this morning to NPR, which is talking about 27 00:01:38,937 --> 00:01:41,017 Speaker 1: bat taste in radio. I listened to NPR and their 28 00:01:41,097 --> 00:01:44,017 Speaker 1: take on this and it was the most amazing soft 29 00:01:44,137 --> 00:01:47,577 Speaker 1: language of appeasement. Oh there's a word for you. Appeasement 30 00:01:48,057 --> 00:01:53,697 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty eight, Chamberlain piece for our time. If I 31 00:01:53,977 --> 00:01:56,417 Speaker 1: were the Taiwanese, I'd be hitting the history books right now, 32 00:01:56,457 --> 00:01:59,897 Speaker 1: buck and looking up so dton Land nineteen thirty eight, 33 00:01:59,977 --> 00:02:02,417 Speaker 1: because that's the paths we're on right now. So that's 34 00:02:02,457 --> 00:02:05,577 Speaker 1: the policy. There's no doubt that it's not an absence 35 00:02:05,577 --> 00:02:09,017 Speaker 1: of policy. It's a policy of appeasement and trying somehow 36 00:02:09,017 --> 00:02:13,017 Speaker 1: to believe being just a little bit nicer, complying just 37 00:02:13,057 --> 00:02:17,177 Speaker 1: a little bit more to help China deal with its 38 00:02:17,177 --> 00:02:22,257 Speaker 1: aggressive nature is going to resolve the situation. And it's not. Remember, 39 00:02:22,297 --> 00:02:25,537 Speaker 1: over the past six weeks we've seen China, let's say 40 00:02:25,857 --> 00:02:29,137 Speaker 1: one's of balloon. I guess the last three months, we've 41 00:02:29,137 --> 00:02:32,937 Speaker 1: seen the Chinese reconnaissance balloon coming over the United States, 42 00:02:32,977 --> 00:02:36,097 Speaker 1: which was a necessary intelligence tool that does something they 43 00:02:36,097 --> 00:02:37,937 Speaker 1: can't do. I don't want to get in classified areas, 44 00:02:37,937 --> 00:02:40,377 Speaker 1: but there's things that satellites, their satellites can't do that 45 00:02:40,457 --> 00:02:43,497 Speaker 1: balloon did for them. Just saying we've come to find 46 00:02:43,537 --> 00:02:45,577 Speaker 1: that the Lords listening site that was created by the 47 00:02:45,657 --> 00:02:48,657 Speaker 1: Russians during the Cold War has been reactivated. John Kirby 48 00:02:48,737 --> 00:02:50,897 Speaker 1: lied about this. I called him out. It's like John's 49 00:02:50,977 --> 00:02:54,297 Speaker 1: lying about this, and he was. We've seen aggressive treatment 50 00:02:54,337 --> 00:02:58,017 Speaker 1: of our navy, with ships being nearly hit in the Pacific, 51 00:02:58,257 --> 00:03:01,657 Speaker 1: aircraft being nearly hit in the skies. These are all 52 00:03:01,697 --> 00:03:05,657 Speaker 1: aggressive actions which go line with the Chinese policy of 53 00:03:06,097 --> 00:03:10,137 Speaker 1: expanding their influence and all the way down to the 54 00:03:10,337 --> 00:03:13,217 Speaker 1: unit level. Buck they've now for the first time ever, 55 00:03:13,217 --> 00:03:16,137 Speaker 1: decided to armor up. They've actually invested in body armor. 56 00:03:16,377 --> 00:03:18,977 Speaker 1: They've got a new small arm that they've developed for 57 00:03:19,337 --> 00:03:22,937 Speaker 1: purposes of invasion, invading Taiwan. These are all bad things, 58 00:03:22,937 --> 00:03:25,377 Speaker 1: and Blincoln did nothing to push back on that, let 59 00:03:25,417 --> 00:03:27,177 Speaker 1: alone the COVID issue. We could go into the COVID 60 00:03:27,217 --> 00:03:30,457 Speaker 1: issue for thirty minutes by itself ample evidence that the 61 00:03:30,537 --> 00:03:35,337 Speaker 1: Chinese weaponized COVID through their PLA. The People's Liberation Army 62 00:03:35,537 --> 00:03:39,697 Speaker 1: worked with our money to weaponize COVID and Wuhan. We 63 00:03:39,777 --> 00:03:41,817 Speaker 1: know this, and yet not a thing was said about 64 00:03:41,857 --> 00:03:42,897 Speaker 1: that from b. Lincoln to Z. 65 00:03:44,297 --> 00:03:46,377 Speaker 2: I have to say, you know, it was pretty recent, 66 00:03:46,497 --> 00:03:49,137 Speaker 2: just in the last week or two, that there were 67 00:03:49,137 --> 00:03:56,177 Speaker 2: some news stories about China using a spying base in Cuba. Again, 68 00:03:57,097 --> 00:03:58,657 Speaker 2: for a lot of people, this is setting off some 69 00:03:58,737 --> 00:04:02,097 Speaker 2: hold on that that feels a little Soviet Cold War esque, right, 70 00:04:02,137 --> 00:04:06,817 Speaker 2: that feels pretty aggressive. China is is using Cuba as 71 00:04:06,817 --> 00:04:10,057 Speaker 2: a spying base against the United States. What should be 72 00:04:10,257 --> 00:04:14,657 Speaker 2: know about the scope of these Chinese operations and their 73 00:04:14,737 --> 00:04:17,017 Speaker 2: efforts to spy on us here at home? 74 00:04:17,577 --> 00:04:19,857 Speaker 1: Excellent question, and you know as an analyst, but the 75 00:04:19,897 --> 00:04:24,057 Speaker 1: biggest thing that an adversary wants to know are indications 76 00:04:24,057 --> 00:04:26,857 Speaker 1: of capability and capacity. One of the things that Chinese 77 00:04:26,937 --> 00:04:30,577 Speaker 1: do not have is persistent surveillance. That's why the balloon 78 00:04:31,777 --> 00:04:34,697 Speaker 1: was such an important thing. They need the ability to 79 00:04:34,817 --> 00:04:38,337 Speaker 1: kind of look deeper inside the interior. Because satellites, as 80 00:04:38,417 --> 00:04:42,457 Speaker 1: much as they're good, there's limitations. So what another limitation 81 00:04:42,577 --> 00:04:46,377 Speaker 1: is persistent surveillance of our signals intelligence LORDS, which is 82 00:04:46,377 --> 00:04:51,937 Speaker 1: a Soviet made listing post in just outside of a 83 00:04:52,017 --> 00:04:55,537 Speaker 1: Vana from I understand, was created to listen to our 84 00:04:55,737 --> 00:04:59,257 Speaker 1: most sensitive military communications. And you and I both know 85 00:04:59,377 --> 00:05:03,217 Speaker 1: that it's difficult to break encryptive communications. But one of 86 00:05:03,217 --> 00:05:05,897 Speaker 1: the things they can learn, which we do learn as well, 87 00:05:06,297 --> 00:05:09,417 Speaker 1: something relating to who's talking to who and when they're talking. 88 00:05:09,617 --> 00:05:13,297 Speaker 1: You can't that, so it's called channel analysis. Channel analysis 89 00:05:13,297 --> 00:05:15,337 Speaker 1: gives you a great deal of intelligence just by the 90 00:05:15,337 --> 00:05:19,737 Speaker 1: frequency of communications, who's talking to who and the responses. 91 00:05:20,017 --> 00:05:22,497 Speaker 1: That's what this gives them. This is no small thing. 92 00:05:22,897 --> 00:05:25,617 Speaker 1: And when you start considering the fact that they're telegraphing, 93 00:05:25,617 --> 00:05:28,617 Speaker 1: they're going to aggressive, aggressively behave They want to know 94 00:05:28,657 --> 00:05:31,257 Speaker 1: what our response is going to be. And that's why Lord, 95 00:05:31,297 --> 00:05:32,937 Speaker 1: this is so important, because they're going to want to 96 00:05:32,977 --> 00:05:37,017 Speaker 1: know what the bulk of our fleet, of our aircraft, 97 00:05:37,097 --> 00:05:39,377 Speaker 1: air force, and army are going to do here in 98 00:05:39,457 --> 00:05:45,217 Speaker 1: the South, in the Atlantic Sea board, all the way 99 00:05:45,257 --> 00:05:47,817 Speaker 1: down to Florida, all the way across across to the 100 00:05:48,137 --> 00:05:50,697 Speaker 1: Texas Gulf Coast. There's a lot of our military there. Buck. 101 00:05:51,017 --> 00:05:52,217 Speaker 1: They want to know what they're going to do what 102 00:05:52,257 --> 00:05:54,297 Speaker 1: we're going to do when they start doing aggressive things. 103 00:05:54,417 --> 00:05:56,017 Speaker 1: That's what that side is set up to do, is 104 00:05:56,057 --> 00:05:56,497 Speaker 1: detect that. 105 00:05:57,377 --> 00:06:00,697 Speaker 2: How big a deal is it now that we know 106 00:06:00,777 --> 00:06:05,057 Speaker 2: a little bit more the whole Chinese spy balloon situation, 107 00:06:05,497 --> 00:06:07,657 Speaker 2: and then it took days and went across the continents 108 00:06:07,697 --> 00:06:08,937 Speaker 2: of the United States. 109 00:06:09,817 --> 00:06:13,977 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so we know this is not just DD 110 00:06:14,257 --> 00:06:17,737 Speaker 1: at Harvard actually has a anomaly center that studies this. 111 00:06:18,457 --> 00:06:20,977 Speaker 1: Not only did that balloon, the big balloon come over 112 00:06:21,137 --> 00:06:23,337 Speaker 1: and was designed to do what it was supposed to do, 113 00:06:23,457 --> 00:06:25,977 Speaker 1: persistent surveillance and does a range of things relating to 114 00:06:26,337 --> 00:06:28,377 Speaker 1: being able to stir around get some really good high 115 00:06:28,457 --> 00:06:31,097 Speaker 1: quality pictures of things. By the way, Buck, there was 116 00:06:31,137 --> 00:06:34,337 Speaker 1: ones that happened near the Mexico border of the United 117 00:06:34,377 --> 00:06:37,497 Speaker 1: States and Hawaii before that one showed up, and it's 118 00:06:37,497 --> 00:06:39,937 Speaker 1: happened again since that are not reporting on and at 119 00:06:40,057 --> 00:06:43,377 Speaker 1: least those there's other three anomalies they shot down. Two 120 00:06:43,377 --> 00:06:46,617 Speaker 1: of those three were actually Chinese drown balloons which came 121 00:06:46,657 --> 00:06:50,137 Speaker 1: in smaller but not you know, still reconnaissance balloons which 122 00:06:50,177 --> 00:06:52,937 Speaker 1: came in from Central China. So again we know all this, 123 00:06:53,257 --> 00:06:57,057 Speaker 1: but the Biden administration by policy downplays it or ignores it. 124 00:06:57,097 --> 00:07:00,657 Speaker 1: And it's dangerous because this only encourages the Chinese to 125 00:07:00,937 --> 00:07:03,497 Speaker 1: do more aggressive things. And every time they do it, 126 00:07:03,537 --> 00:07:06,177 Speaker 1: they do gain usable intelligence which tells them what our 127 00:07:06,217 --> 00:07:09,537 Speaker 1: capabilities are. So it's a big deal. And again, the 128 00:07:09,577 --> 00:07:12,617 Speaker 1: fact that Blincoln looks at this as a closed issue 129 00:07:12,777 --> 00:07:15,257 Speaker 1: tells me that the Biden administration is doing everything they 130 00:07:15,257 --> 00:07:20,577 Speaker 1: can to promote the Chinese aggression, ignoring the consequences which 131 00:07:20,577 --> 00:07:21,417 Speaker 1: you're going to come from that. 132 00:07:22,817 --> 00:07:24,817 Speaker 2: We're going to come back and talk a little bit 133 00:07:24,857 --> 00:07:28,177 Speaker 2: more here with Lieutenant Colonel Schaeffer about an area that 134 00:07:28,497 --> 00:07:31,457 Speaker 2: is in his expertise that just shows you what a 135 00:07:31,537 --> 00:07:36,377 Speaker 2: jack of all trades he is, climate change Lunacy Tony. 136 00:07:36,417 --> 00:07:37,737 Speaker 2: We're gonna get to that in a second. First, a 137 00:07:37,777 --> 00:07:41,017 Speaker 2: word from our sponsor here. 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Right, So 165 00:09:03,097 --> 00:09:05,897 Speaker 2: people start to understand when they see this, Yeah, that 166 00:09:06,017 --> 00:09:09,617 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a death cult vibe, you know, 167 00:09:09,817 --> 00:09:13,057 Speaker 2: some nihilism at the heart of the climate change stuff. Well, 168 00:09:13,337 --> 00:09:15,297 Speaker 2: let's get into the data a little bit more. Because 169 00:09:15,417 --> 00:09:18,017 Speaker 2: you have a degree in environmental studies, so you're a 170 00:09:18,097 --> 00:09:23,977 Speaker 2: guy who has studied this issue specifically as an academic academic. Yeah, 171 00:09:24,897 --> 00:09:27,977 Speaker 2: a credentialed expert on this issue. And one thing I 172 00:09:27,977 --> 00:09:31,017 Speaker 2: think I find fascinating. We've been told that the Arctic 173 00:09:31,177 --> 00:09:33,617 Speaker 2: ice was gonna melt and therefore the seas would rise, 174 00:09:33,697 --> 00:09:35,457 Speaker 2: and you know, then all the polar bears would drown. 175 00:09:35,537 --> 00:09:37,977 Speaker 2: Kind of a think, right, what did we know about 176 00:09:37,977 --> 00:09:39,297 Speaker 2: the Arctic ice right now? 177 00:09:40,337 --> 00:09:46,057 Speaker 1: Record high, ten year record high? And Greenland is more 178 00:09:46,057 --> 00:09:47,737 Speaker 1: ice than they know what to do with. And by 179 00:09:47,777 --> 00:09:49,537 Speaker 1: the way, it's supposed to be melting right now, according 180 00:09:49,577 --> 00:09:54,377 Speaker 1: according to the annual cycles. And this is where I'm 181 00:09:54,377 --> 00:09:59,457 Speaker 1: just going to tell your audience, Buck, think for yourself. 182 00:10:00,737 --> 00:10:02,897 Speaker 1: The nihilism, all these other things you bring up are 183 00:10:03,017 --> 00:10:05,457 Speaker 1: are pertinent. It's a religion to the left. Now AOC, 184 00:10:05,617 --> 00:10:07,737 Speaker 1: Remember AOC, we're going to die in twelve years. We're 185 00:10:07,777 --> 00:10:09,817 Speaker 1: about five years into that. So Buck, if you know 186 00:10:09,857 --> 00:10:11,657 Speaker 1: what's good for you. You better get ready to die 187 00:10:11,657 --> 00:10:14,297 Speaker 1: in seven years, just saying just you know, according to her, 188 00:10:15,097 --> 00:10:19,177 Speaker 1: we're all going to perish. It's emotional, it's irrational, and 189 00:10:19,217 --> 00:10:22,457 Speaker 1: it's completely unscientific. What they've done is they've taken science 190 00:10:22,937 --> 00:10:25,177 Speaker 1: and they've they've turned it around. Al Gore is a 191 00:10:25,217 --> 00:10:28,537 Speaker 1: master of this. You just mentioned the polar ice caps. 192 00:10:28,577 --> 00:10:30,977 Speaker 1: Al Gore predicted I think it was in two thousand 193 00:10:31,017 --> 00:10:34,537 Speaker 1: and two, two thousand and three as part of his 194 00:10:34,657 --> 00:10:40,057 Speaker 1: movie Inconvenient Union Truth, that they were going to be 195 00:10:40,097 --> 00:10:43,217 Speaker 1: by twenty ten. No polar ice cap. That's a lot 196 00:10:43,377 --> 00:10:46,977 Speaker 1: never happened. We've always had a cycle. And by the way, 197 00:10:47,057 --> 00:10:49,177 Speaker 1: to your point, like as you as we just mentioned, 198 00:10:49,217 --> 00:10:56,217 Speaker 1: it's now a record high ice existence. Every year it expands. 199 00:10:57,057 --> 00:10:59,417 Speaker 1: The melt is supposed to have already started, bucket hasn't started. 200 00:10:59,497 --> 00:11:02,497 Speaker 1: It's still expanding, which means that that it's not in 201 00:11:02,617 --> 00:11:05,217 Speaker 1: any danger of not existing. As a matter of fact, 202 00:11:05,937 --> 00:11:09,377 Speaker 1: we're near we're summer now, and it's still growing. So 203 00:11:10,137 --> 00:11:14,417 Speaker 1: their predictions are completely false. Let me use two words 204 00:11:14,857 --> 00:11:17,537 Speaker 1: that your audience needs to pay attention to. You ready 205 00:11:17,537 --> 00:11:23,897 Speaker 1: for him? Geologic time. Geologic time. If you want to 206 00:11:23,977 --> 00:11:30,177 Speaker 1: understand climate, not whether geologic time is necessary or study. 207 00:11:30,657 --> 00:11:33,857 Speaker 1: Anytime these knuckleheads start talking about tornadoes. 208 00:11:33,337 --> 00:11:35,337 Speaker 2: Oohndos are bad. 209 00:11:35,537 --> 00:11:38,817 Speaker 1: Yes they're bad, but it's weather. These things are cyclic 210 00:11:38,897 --> 00:11:42,017 Speaker 1: and it goes through at about eleven thousand year cycle 211 00:11:42,097 --> 00:11:46,697 Speaker 1: right now, but we are about halfway through a warming 212 00:11:46,897 --> 00:11:50,537 Speaker 1: now cooling period. We actually have something called a little 213 00:11:50,577 --> 00:11:53,577 Speaker 1: ice age back in sixteen fifty to eighteen ninety. Do 214 00:11:53,617 --> 00:11:55,617 Speaker 1: you know what caused that ice age? I want to 215 00:11:55,657 --> 00:12:01,817 Speaker 1: guess the sun. The sun did it. The sun has 216 00:12:01,937 --> 00:12:06,777 Speaker 1: far more influence over any climate issue than anything man does. 217 00:12:07,577 --> 00:12:09,657 Speaker 1: So this is what I'm saying. You need people need 218 00:12:09,657 --> 00:12:13,057 Speaker 1: to em and the facts not the emotion. And let's 219 00:12:13,097 --> 00:12:15,737 Speaker 1: take a step back to the emotion. Here they use 220 00:12:15,817 --> 00:12:19,897 Speaker 1: words like might or we might get this, or the 221 00:12:19,937 --> 00:12:23,457 Speaker 1: rest of the world is ignoring it, but we must act. No, 222 00:12:23,697 --> 00:12:25,737 Speaker 1: it's like if the rest of it, if we don't 223 00:12:25,737 --> 00:12:28,257 Speaker 1: do this uniformly, it's going to have no effect. That's 224 00:12:28,297 --> 00:12:30,817 Speaker 1: what I'm telling you. It's all. It's all a sham. 225 00:12:31,217 --> 00:12:35,337 Speaker 1: And let's get to the most important culprit of global warming. 226 00:12:35,377 --> 00:12:38,377 Speaker 1: According to the left CO two buck. Do you know 227 00:12:38,457 --> 00:12:41,217 Speaker 1: what the percentage of CO two that goes into the 228 00:12:41,257 --> 00:12:44,057 Speaker 1: atmosphere any given year, from any given sources. 229 00:12:43,697 --> 00:12:46,657 Speaker 2: Isn't it overall the atmosphere? It's less than one percent? 230 00:12:46,777 --> 00:12:50,337 Speaker 1: Right, less than No, it's less than zero point four. 231 00:12:50,537 --> 00:12:53,137 Speaker 2: Well, that's less than hold on, hold on, mister math, 232 00:12:55,257 --> 00:12:56,777 Speaker 2: wait less, wait less. 233 00:12:56,937 --> 00:13:00,057 Speaker 1: We're talking to zero point zero four. Do you know 234 00:13:00,097 --> 00:13:04,817 Speaker 1: what man's percentage of point zero four is? No, it's 235 00:13:04,857 --> 00:13:07,777 Speaker 1: even smaller. See we're getting I hate math, but we're 236 00:13:07,977 --> 00:13:12,937 Speaker 1: point zero zero eight. So out of point zero four 237 00:13:13,377 --> 00:13:19,057 Speaker 1: we manufacture point zero zero eight of that. Now, the 238 00:13:19,137 --> 00:13:21,577 Speaker 1: other thing that the left won't tell you is if 239 00:13:21,617 --> 00:13:25,377 Speaker 1: they're successful, do you know what what percentage of CO 240 00:13:25,617 --> 00:13:28,257 Speaker 1: two becomes dangerous to life? Where you know CO two 241 00:13:28,377 --> 00:13:30,657 Speaker 1: is like plant food? I think you know this is 242 00:13:30,897 --> 00:13:34,937 Speaker 1: CO two actually benefits mankind by the fact that actually 243 00:13:35,017 --> 00:13:35,617 Speaker 1: feeds plants. 244 00:13:35,617 --> 00:13:38,617 Speaker 2: Do you know I remember I remember photosynthesis from high 245 00:13:38,617 --> 00:13:40,857 Speaker 2: school biogas Right, Yeah. 246 00:13:41,377 --> 00:13:43,657 Speaker 1: You're you're see you you're you're not emotional, you're thinking 247 00:13:43,697 --> 00:13:46,017 Speaker 1: about this. Do you know what percentage of of of 248 00:13:46,657 --> 00:13:48,697 Speaker 1: lack of CO two becomes dangerous to plant life? 249 00:13:50,537 --> 00:13:51,377 Speaker 2: You'd have to tell me. 250 00:13:51,457 --> 00:13:55,737 Speaker 1: Anything anything less than point zero zero two. So if 251 00:13:55,777 --> 00:13:58,777 Speaker 1: they're successful, and dropping. If they're successful, the left is 252 00:13:58,817 --> 00:14:03,937 Speaker 1: will literally eradicate plant life from the earth. Think about that. 253 00:14:05,017 --> 00:14:08,657 Speaker 1: Why would you do that? So this, this abundance of 254 00:14:08,777 --> 00:14:13,057 Speaker 1: irrational thinking we're arding CO two is actually counter to 255 00:14:13,137 --> 00:14:15,457 Speaker 1: the science and counter to what we need to be 256 00:14:15,497 --> 00:14:19,297 Speaker 1: looking at. CO two increases actually increases the likelihood of 257 00:14:19,377 --> 00:14:20,177 Speaker 1: green and growth. 258 00:14:20,297 --> 00:14:22,097 Speaker 2: Tony, Let's come back in a second and talk about 259 00:14:22,137 --> 00:14:26,137 Speaker 2: the wildfires in Canada and how as you know, they 260 00:14:26,257 --> 00:14:31,897 Speaker 2: blanketed New York City and this smoke that terms kind 261 00:14:31,897 --> 00:14:34,657 Speaker 2: of orange ish and everyone's freaking out and we were told, oh, 262 00:14:34,697 --> 00:14:36,777 Speaker 2: it's climate change. Let's discuss that in a second, and 263 00:14:36,817 --> 00:14:39,097 Speaker 2: some other stuff too. But you know, you've got a computer, 264 00:14:39,177 --> 00:14:40,537 Speaker 2: and I bet you take good care of it because 265 00:14:40,537 --> 00:14:43,177 Speaker 2: it's a valuable piece of equipment and it has really 266 00:14:43,257 --> 00:14:46,977 Speaker 2: valuable stuff on there. 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What do we need to know about this? 294 00:16:03,737 --> 00:16:06,777 Speaker 1: First off, and never trust a man who wears artificial eyebrows. 295 00:16:06,777 --> 00:16:09,697 Speaker 1: That's my first tip on just Trudeau just saying it's 296 00:16:09,697 --> 00:16:12,937 Speaker 1: not a good Secondly, because I think he is so fake. 297 00:16:13,137 --> 00:16:17,177 Speaker 1: This is another area of fakeness. Again, as I've referenced back, 298 00:16:17,417 --> 00:16:20,417 Speaker 1: anybody who wants to actually understand climate change must study 299 00:16:20,457 --> 00:16:25,257 Speaker 1: geologic time. Nothing that's within the last one hundred years 300 00:16:25,297 --> 00:16:28,697 Speaker 1: is out of sync with the normal cycles of the planet. 301 00:16:29,177 --> 00:16:32,617 Speaker 1: And what Trudeau is saying is again propagandizing science, trying 302 00:16:32,617 --> 00:16:35,897 Speaker 1: to adapt and change the meaning of things for purposes 303 00:16:36,297 --> 00:16:41,417 Speaker 1: of gaining ultimately buck. The objective of the green movement 304 00:16:41,617 --> 00:16:43,737 Speaker 1: is not to save the planet. I mean throwing money. 305 00:16:43,737 --> 00:16:46,537 Speaker 1: One is throwing money done any good at any time, 306 00:16:46,657 --> 00:16:49,337 Speaker 1: against any topic. It never works, But that's what they're 307 00:16:49,377 --> 00:16:51,457 Speaker 1: telling you, give us money and will save you. It's 308 00:16:51,497 --> 00:16:55,817 Speaker 1: completely stupid. What they're trying to do is use climate 309 00:16:56,337 --> 00:17:00,737 Speaker 1: and the concept and emotion of oh, we are responsible 310 00:17:00,737 --> 00:17:03,617 Speaker 1: for these bad things happening to guilt you and I 311 00:17:04,097 --> 00:17:07,377 Speaker 1: and their population into believing that someone giving the government 312 00:17:08,097 --> 00:17:12,377 Speaker 1: the control over means of production, means of manufacturing, means 313 00:17:12,417 --> 00:17:16,417 Speaker 1: of energy is a good thing. It's all socialism and 314 00:17:16,577 --> 00:17:20,377 Speaker 1: Marxism retooled for the twenty first century. That's why he's 315 00:17:20,417 --> 00:17:23,497 Speaker 1: doing what he's doing. It's all about trying to get 316 00:17:23,537 --> 00:17:26,017 Speaker 1: more control of these things for the government. 317 00:17:26,857 --> 00:17:30,057 Speaker 2: What about the forest management component of this, because I 318 00:17:30,097 --> 00:17:33,337 Speaker 2: know that comes up a lot in the context of California. 319 00:17:33,377 --> 00:17:36,337 Speaker 2: You know, Gavin Newsom is running around telling everybody, oh, 320 00:17:36,377 --> 00:17:39,537 Speaker 2: you know, the forest fires because of climate change, and 321 00:17:39,617 --> 00:17:42,377 Speaker 2: Trudeau is saying the same thing now about the fires 322 00:17:42,417 --> 00:17:46,657 Speaker 2: that are in eastern eastern Canada that have blown smoke 323 00:17:47,057 --> 00:17:51,377 Speaker 2: into the northeastern United States and created some real headaches there. 324 00:17:51,817 --> 00:17:55,737 Speaker 2: But it seems like the environmentalists don't want there to 325 00:17:55,777 --> 00:17:59,617 Speaker 2: be any management of the brush, and they don't want 326 00:17:59,657 --> 00:18:02,777 Speaker 2: any logging, and that actually causes its own problems. 327 00:18:03,217 --> 00:18:07,097 Speaker 1: It does, It does excellent questioning. Yes, absolutely, So long 328 00:18:07,097 --> 00:18:10,377 Speaker 1: before man came along as a species on the planet, 329 00:18:10,737 --> 00:18:14,577 Speaker 1: there would be great and extensive forest fires just caused 330 00:18:14,617 --> 00:18:18,017 Speaker 1: by nature. Nature would actually do this because anytime you 331 00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:24,537 Speaker 1: have trees and undergrowth, things grow, they die every fall, 332 00:18:25,137 --> 00:18:28,737 Speaker 1: leaves fall, they dry out, they become tender, they are 333 00:18:28,857 --> 00:18:32,137 Speaker 1: very much flammable, easily flammable, and you have these mass 334 00:18:32,177 --> 00:18:35,857 Speaker 1: burning So long before we came along, you have mass 335 00:18:36,057 --> 00:18:39,177 Speaker 1: forest fires not caused by man, we didn't exist. So 336 00:18:39,417 --> 00:18:42,657 Speaker 1: the fact we know this now scientifically, we know that 337 00:18:42,737 --> 00:18:46,177 Speaker 1: forest management. Resource management is a necessary tool to prevent 338 00:18:46,297 --> 00:18:48,577 Speaker 1: large forest fires. What you have to do is call 339 00:18:48,617 --> 00:18:51,417 Speaker 1: the forests, you have to create fire breaks, you have 340 00:18:51,457 --> 00:18:54,657 Speaker 1: to take that tinder out the things fall and use 341 00:18:54,657 --> 00:18:57,617 Speaker 1: it for something. And because if you don't do that, 342 00:18:57,697 --> 00:19:00,497 Speaker 1: you're going to have things like mass forest fires which 343 00:19:00,537 --> 00:19:05,017 Speaker 1: create these horrific conditions. It has nothing zero to do 344 00:19:05,097 --> 00:19:07,457 Speaker 1: with climate change, not a thing to do with climate change. 345 00:19:07,617 --> 00:19:10,057 Speaker 1: If you want to see how this has become completely 346 00:19:10,137 --> 00:19:13,577 Speaker 1: emotionally compromised, I recommend you look at a movie called 347 00:19:14,337 --> 00:19:17,097 Speaker 1: Planet of the Humans. Michael Moore goes through all this, 348 00:19:17,177 --> 00:19:19,977 Speaker 1: and he does it from the left. His premise is, well, 349 00:19:20,057 --> 00:19:23,377 Speaker 1: we need to eradicate mankind because we're bad. That's his conclusion. 350 00:19:23,497 --> 00:19:25,937 Speaker 1: But in the process of getting to his conclusion, which 351 00:19:25,977 --> 00:19:30,937 Speaker 1: is clearly erroneous, he goes through and completely just debunks 352 00:19:30,977 --> 00:19:34,217 Speaker 1: the entire narrative of the left's green movement to include 353 00:19:34,257 --> 00:19:38,497 Speaker 1: what we're talking about right now regarding protecting the environment 354 00:19:38,617 --> 00:19:42,377 Speaker 1: and how you know not using trees is something that 355 00:19:42,537 --> 00:19:44,217 Speaker 1: is bad. And so he goes through it, and I 356 00:19:44,217 --> 00:19:49,497 Speaker 1: think people need to again, recognize that the result what's 357 00:19:49,537 --> 00:19:52,257 Speaker 1: bringing buyers these forest fires is now climate change is 358 00:19:52,257 --> 00:19:54,457 Speaker 1: bad policy, and we know what needs to be done. 359 00:19:54,497 --> 00:19:55,097 Speaker 1: They don't do it. 360 00:19:55,857 --> 00:19:59,097 Speaker 2: Tony, Let's talk submarines. I know you're not a sub guy. 361 00:19:59,177 --> 00:20:00,857 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about a submarine story 362 00:20:00,897 --> 00:20:02,417 Speaker 2: that we come back for a second, but first I 363 00:20:02,457 --> 00:20:05,217 Speaker 2: got some other very important for you, Tony. Do you 364 00:20:05,217 --> 00:20:07,297 Speaker 2: have my slippers at home? I'm holding one up right now. 365 00:20:07,297 --> 00:20:09,617 Speaker 2: Do you have the my slippers? 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Tony, 393 00:21:20,857 --> 00:21:21,977 Speaker 2: we're gonna have to get you hooked up with a 394 00:21:21,977 --> 00:21:23,097 Speaker 2: pair of them because they're amazing. 395 00:21:23,537 --> 00:21:24,057 Speaker 1: Sounds good. 396 00:21:25,297 --> 00:21:27,217 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta make this happen. I can't. You know 397 00:21:27,657 --> 00:21:30,057 Speaker 2: Mike Lindell found out you weren't wearing as my slippers. Man, 398 00:21:30,097 --> 00:21:32,137 Speaker 2: he's gonna be he's gonna be upset. So we're gonna 399 00:21:32,137 --> 00:21:34,217 Speaker 2: hook you up with a pair of my slippers, actually, 400 00:21:34,937 --> 00:21:39,137 Speaker 2: and tell me this this summer. First of all, have 401 00:21:39,137 --> 00:21:41,897 Speaker 2: you ever I know you've been on black Hawks, you've 402 00:21:41,937 --> 00:21:44,217 Speaker 2: been on Chinook's. I always thought the Chinook was scarier 403 00:21:44,217 --> 00:21:46,017 Speaker 2: than the black Hawk, although I think the Chinook actually 404 00:21:46,017 --> 00:21:49,057 Speaker 2: has a better safety profile. It definitely goes faster, has 405 00:21:49,097 --> 00:21:51,697 Speaker 2: a better safety. It's it's close, right, it's I just 406 00:21:51,697 --> 00:21:53,697 Speaker 2: didn't like the back ramp when it would go up 407 00:21:53,737 --> 00:21:54,857 Speaker 2: and scare the crap out of me. 408 00:21:54,937 --> 00:21:57,017 Speaker 1: But have you ever been on a sub things? Have? 409 00:21:57,577 --> 00:22:00,817 Speaker 1: Those things could fall apart if the hydraulics fail. Just saying, yeah, 410 00:22:00,857 --> 00:22:01,577 Speaker 1: that's a little scary. 411 00:22:01,817 --> 00:22:03,777 Speaker 2: You ever been on a submarine though, because for me, 412 00:22:03,937 --> 00:22:06,737 Speaker 2: that's the that's the last vehicle that I would want 413 00:22:06,737 --> 00:22:08,177 Speaker 2: to be on. You ever been in a sub. 414 00:22:09,017 --> 00:22:11,497 Speaker 1: I have not, unfortunate, but when I went down to 415 00:22:11,697 --> 00:22:14,217 Speaker 1: Camp Perry training in the old days, the military side 416 00:22:14,217 --> 00:22:17,297 Speaker 1: at least used to deploy our us off submarines. I 417 00:22:17,377 --> 00:22:19,177 Speaker 1: missed that by one year. So I have not been 418 00:22:19,217 --> 00:22:19,977 Speaker 1: on the submarine. 419 00:22:20,177 --> 00:22:22,617 Speaker 2: So here's what I'm why I'm asking about this. You 420 00:22:22,657 --> 00:22:29,297 Speaker 2: probably saw this right, this company that does these twelve 421 00:22:29,417 --> 00:22:33,697 Speaker 2: thousand foot under the surface, this twelve thousand, five hundred 422 00:22:33,697 --> 00:22:37,097 Speaker 2: feet down to go visit the wreckage of the Titanic. 423 00:22:37,177 --> 00:22:40,257 Speaker 2: They went down a readier this week and as I 424 00:22:40,337 --> 00:22:42,937 Speaker 2: talk to you right now, they've only got you know, 425 00:22:42,937 --> 00:22:45,937 Speaker 2: a couple of days of air. They've lost contact with 426 00:22:46,017 --> 00:22:48,417 Speaker 2: the sub. I mean, to me, this is like the 427 00:22:48,457 --> 00:22:52,217 Speaker 2: scariest thing to be on a submarine twelve thousand feet down. 428 00:22:52,497 --> 00:22:54,817 Speaker 2: So it's a super deep sea submarine twelve thousand feet 429 00:22:54,817 --> 00:22:58,657 Speaker 2: down and lose contact. I mean, you know, they paid 430 00:22:58,657 --> 00:23:01,257 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a person to go there, Tony. 431 00:23:01,297 --> 00:23:02,657 Speaker 2: What would I have to pay you to get you 432 00:23:02,777 --> 00:23:04,817 Speaker 2: to get in the sub to get to twelve thousand 433 00:23:04,857 --> 00:23:05,377 Speaker 2: feet down. 434 00:23:06,817 --> 00:23:08,977 Speaker 1: It'd be closer to a billion. I look, I'm just 435 00:23:09,017 --> 00:23:11,377 Speaker 1: not a fan of those things. I mean, buck to 436 00:23:11,417 --> 00:23:13,857 Speaker 1: that point right near where the Titanic went down. As 437 00:23:13,897 --> 00:23:17,057 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, the Titanic search was actually cover 438 00:23:17,377 --> 00:23:21,497 Speaker 1: for the search for a submarine called the Thatcher I'm sorry, Thrasher. 439 00:23:21,537 --> 00:23:24,457 Speaker 1: The Thrasher was a US Navy submarine that was destroyed 440 00:23:24,457 --> 00:23:27,697 Speaker 1: on tests in the Atlantic. So they were actually trying 441 00:23:27,737 --> 00:23:31,057 Speaker 1: to get and find the thrasher, and they were using 442 00:23:31,097 --> 00:23:34,177 Speaker 1: the Titanic search as a cover for it and a 443 00:23:34,217 --> 00:23:38,257 Speaker 1: little clue. The thrasher went deep and blew up. It 444 00:23:38,417 --> 00:23:42,817 Speaker 1: got crushed. So I don't I feel terrible saying this, 445 00:23:42,937 --> 00:23:44,657 Speaker 1: but I don't think those people are coming back. 446 00:23:44,897 --> 00:23:47,657 Speaker 2: Just saying I mean, I gotta think. I mean, unless 447 00:23:47,697 --> 00:23:50,257 Speaker 2: there's you could only hope. And as we're speaking, because 448 00:23:50,297 --> 00:23:52,177 Speaker 2: as people may be watching this later in the week, 449 00:23:52,257 --> 00:23:54,977 Speaker 2: it made the fate of this group may be clear, 450 00:23:55,297 --> 00:23:57,817 Speaker 2: but as we're speaking to you, they've lost comms and 451 00:23:57,897 --> 00:24:02,737 Speaker 2: location the submarine. To me, the only real you think, 452 00:24:02,737 --> 00:24:06,657 Speaker 2: the only possibility here would be if they just lost comms. 453 00:24:06,697 --> 00:24:10,297 Speaker 2: But the submarine is designed and it's a small thing. 454 00:24:10,297 --> 00:24:12,337 Speaker 2: It's like twenty feet long. It's not a big sub 455 00:24:12,817 --> 00:24:15,937 Speaker 2: It's designed to surface if there's a problem. Well, if 456 00:24:16,257 --> 00:24:20,537 Speaker 2: it hasn't surfaced and there's no comms, I mean, one 457 00:24:20,577 --> 00:24:22,417 Speaker 2: thing I know about this is that if you're that 458 00:24:22,537 --> 00:24:26,057 Speaker 2: far down something goes a little bit bad, it goes 459 00:24:26,177 --> 00:24:26,697 Speaker 2: very bad. 460 00:24:27,697 --> 00:24:30,857 Speaker 1: That's my point is that the thrasher was similar to design. 461 00:24:30,857 --> 00:24:33,017 Speaker 1: It's like, if something goes wrong, it's supposed to automatically 462 00:24:33,057 --> 00:24:36,897 Speaker 1: blow and go up. It didn't it Blewin went down. 463 00:24:36,937 --> 00:24:39,937 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm worried about, because if something crushes 464 00:24:39,977 --> 00:24:43,897 Speaker 1: that depth, buck it's done. Like it's so fast you 465 00:24:43,937 --> 00:24:46,337 Speaker 1: can't even measure the time. It happens so fast, it's 466 00:24:46,377 --> 00:24:48,777 Speaker 1: just like you're done. That's it, and just crushes. 467 00:24:48,977 --> 00:24:50,737 Speaker 2: Did you ever h Do you ever check out? If 468 00:24:50,777 --> 00:24:53,057 Speaker 2: you haven't, I'm looking. I'm telling you to get my slippers. 469 00:24:53,097 --> 00:24:55,297 Speaker 2: I'm giving you book recommendations to here Tony. You know 470 00:24:55,337 --> 00:24:56,697 Speaker 2: this is the great thing when you hang out with 471 00:24:56,697 --> 00:25:02,177 Speaker 2: the Buckster. You ever read Shadow Divers? I have not 472 00:25:02,457 --> 00:25:05,617 Speaker 2: to make an oh man, I look, I people always 473 00:25:05,657 --> 00:25:08,417 Speaker 2: give me book recommendations and then sometimes if I'm just 474 00:25:08,417 --> 00:25:09,857 Speaker 2: not in the mood, I'll point them. I've got a 475 00:25:10,217 --> 00:25:11,817 Speaker 2: I got a stack of books I'm reading for research 476 00:25:11,857 --> 00:25:13,697 Speaker 2: for projects and working on I got the stack of 477 00:25:13,777 --> 00:25:17,817 Speaker 2: you know, the stack of books Shadow Divers. But yeah, yeah, 478 00:25:17,817 --> 00:25:19,577 Speaker 2: you get the idea. But I'm telling you, man, if 479 00:25:19,577 --> 00:25:21,577 Speaker 2: you're looking for a beach read that, I know you'd 480 00:25:21,577 --> 00:25:25,377 Speaker 2: be into. Shadow Divers is awesome. It's about these guys 481 00:25:25,377 --> 00:25:28,857 Speaker 2: who do rec you know, wreck diving, not like recreational 482 00:25:28,897 --> 00:25:31,937 Speaker 2: but like going down to see Rex and they find 483 00:25:32,137 --> 00:25:34,737 Speaker 2: a German U boat off the coast of New Jersey. 484 00:25:35,057 --> 00:25:37,217 Speaker 2: But really the guy does all this research into it 485 00:25:37,217 --> 00:25:39,537 Speaker 2: and tells you about what life was like on the 486 00:25:39,617 --> 00:25:41,857 Speaker 2: U boat, right, That's a big part of it. And 487 00:25:42,057 --> 00:25:46,057 Speaker 2: man sub in the military service, I honestly think, well, actually, 488 00:25:46,137 --> 00:25:48,177 Speaker 2: let me ask this because obviously I'm going to say submarine. 489 00:25:49,057 --> 00:25:52,217 Speaker 2: What is the last of all sort of the military 490 00:25:52,297 --> 00:25:54,857 Speaker 2: service roles one could have? And you served in a 491 00:25:54,937 --> 00:25:58,337 Speaker 2: in a bunch of different capacities as an operator inside 492 00:25:58,377 --> 00:26:01,977 Speaker 2: the military. But if you had to pick the last 493 00:26:02,017 --> 00:26:04,737 Speaker 2: one for you, like anything that flies, I think I'd 494 00:26:04,737 --> 00:26:08,017 Speaker 2: be down for submarine for me, would be dead last. 495 00:26:09,297 --> 00:26:12,377 Speaker 1: So you know, I've I've actually used to flight helicopters 496 00:26:13,297 --> 00:26:16,497 Speaker 1: back in the eighties when I first became a lieutenant. Uh, 497 00:26:16,577 --> 00:26:18,337 Speaker 1: I know how to do that, know how to drive tanks, 498 00:26:19,217 --> 00:26:21,057 Speaker 1: had to do a little bit of that high speed driving. 499 00:26:21,977 --> 00:26:24,857 Speaker 1: We all. You know. The thing that I would find 500 00:26:24,897 --> 00:26:28,217 Speaker 1: the most difficult to do, probably out of all the services, 501 00:26:29,017 --> 00:26:32,497 Speaker 1: is uh the Air Force. And you know I've done 502 00:26:32,497 --> 00:26:34,577 Speaker 1: a lot of study on this. The World War Two 503 00:26:34,777 --> 00:26:37,257 Speaker 1: bombers would be a very difficult thing for me to do. 504 00:26:37,377 --> 00:26:39,897 Speaker 1: I mean, flying over Germany, the Night, The Seventh Night, 505 00:26:40,017 --> 00:26:41,537 Speaker 1: the b seventeen's is very tough. 506 00:26:41,537 --> 00:26:45,057 Speaker 2: I think it was a super tonton repertuni, but it 507 00:26:45,137 --> 00:26:48,697 Speaker 2: wasn't the to your point, the like the belly gunners 508 00:26:49,017 --> 00:26:52,817 Speaker 2: of those bombers, like the Memphis Bell from that movie. Yeah, 509 00:26:52,857 --> 00:26:54,737 Speaker 2: that was a so I mean, if you get shot up, 510 00:26:55,177 --> 00:26:58,217 Speaker 2: you fall out, well, you fall to. 511 00:26:58,257 --> 00:26:59,857 Speaker 1: Your death, because yeah, you have to get into that 512 00:26:59,897 --> 00:27:02,337 Speaker 1: little ball, that little turret. And I don't know if 513 00:27:02,337 --> 00:27:04,297 Speaker 1: you've seen it, there's been some specials on it, the 514 00:27:04,337 --> 00:27:06,897 Speaker 1: whole the thing, but the whole thing, and I know 515 00:27:06,937 --> 00:27:10,177 Speaker 1: you if you're just listening to us the openings about 516 00:27:10,217 --> 00:27:12,897 Speaker 1: that big and that tall. You got to literally squeeze 517 00:27:12,897 --> 00:27:15,297 Speaker 1: through it. So if something bad happens, you ain't coming 518 00:27:15,297 --> 00:27:16,657 Speaker 1: out of that thing fast. As a matter of fact, 519 00:27:16,737 --> 00:27:18,377 Speaker 1: you're going to be stuck in there if that aircraft 520 00:27:18,457 --> 00:27:20,617 Speaker 1: goes down. That's pretty frightening to me, is to be 521 00:27:20,657 --> 00:27:23,297 Speaker 1: stuck in that little space with no hope of getting 522 00:27:23,337 --> 00:27:25,897 Speaker 1: out if something bad happens. And the Eighth Air Force, 523 00:27:26,017 --> 00:27:27,977 Speaker 1: which was the air force over Germany, and you know 524 00:27:28,017 --> 00:27:32,057 Speaker 1: from Britain, those guys had horrific losses, so I can 525 00:27:32,137 --> 00:27:33,977 Speaker 1: only imagine what it would been like to do. That's 526 00:27:34,017 --> 00:27:35,017 Speaker 1: a job I would not have wanted. 527 00:27:35,097 --> 00:27:40,137 Speaker 2: The military best in your mind submarine movie is what. 528 00:27:40,777 --> 00:27:41,537 Speaker 2: There's a lot of them. 529 00:27:42,257 --> 00:27:45,097 Speaker 1: Boy, I got to tell you, I'd like early Alec 530 00:27:45,137 --> 00:27:48,097 Speaker 1: Baldwin and The Hunter Red October at that you know, 531 00:27:48,417 --> 00:27:49,977 Speaker 1: and you was a CI guy, I would think that 532 00:27:49,977 --> 00:27:52,297 Speaker 1: would be fun because I you know, he was the 533 00:27:52,417 --> 00:27:54,377 Speaker 1: Jack Ryan character he played, and that was pretty good. 534 00:27:54,417 --> 00:27:57,457 Speaker 1: I like Harrison Ford better just saying, but for what 535 00:27:57,537 --> 00:27:59,377 Speaker 1: it was. And Sean Connery, if you can buy Sean 536 00:27:59,417 --> 00:28:01,057 Speaker 1: Connery as a Russian, you know that's good. 537 00:28:01,697 --> 00:28:05,017 Speaker 2: I never understood why they did that. I never understood 538 00:28:05,017 --> 00:28:06,817 Speaker 2: why they went. You know, I love the Hunt for 539 00:28:06,817 --> 00:28:10,017 Speaker 2: Red October. I would argue that it's actually the best 540 00:28:10,137 --> 00:28:11,377 Speaker 2: the Jack Ryan series. 541 00:28:11,937 --> 00:28:12,217 Speaker 1: For me. 542 00:28:12,377 --> 00:28:15,057 Speaker 2: Second place would go to Clear and Present Danger. 543 00:28:15,137 --> 00:28:17,297 Speaker 1: But I love that movie too. Oh. I love that 544 00:28:17,377 --> 00:28:18,297 Speaker 1: movie really. 545 00:28:18,017 --> 00:28:19,777 Speaker 2: Really well, really well done for what it was. But 546 00:28:19,897 --> 00:28:22,497 Speaker 2: Hunter for October as a movie was probably the best 547 00:28:22,537 --> 00:28:25,177 Speaker 2: of all of of the It's also the book that 548 00:28:25,937 --> 00:28:28,297 Speaker 2: kind of got you know, Tom Clancy on the map made. 549 00:28:28,137 --> 00:28:30,977 Speaker 1: It did a great job with that. Navy helped him, 550 00:28:31,057 --> 00:28:33,257 Speaker 1: maybe gave him some tips, just saying. And then my 551 00:28:33,337 --> 00:28:35,377 Speaker 1: friend deb g through my current agent was his agent, 552 00:28:35,417 --> 00:28:37,937 Speaker 1: first agent, so you know, all in a family. But yeah, 553 00:28:37,937 --> 00:28:38,537 Speaker 1: it's a great book. 554 00:28:38,937 --> 00:28:41,177 Speaker 2: Yeah. So but I that was real solid. I mean, 555 00:28:41,177 --> 00:28:43,217 Speaker 2: you've got some others. Crimson Tide is in there, Doss 556 00:28:43,297 --> 00:28:45,017 Speaker 2: Boot or Doss. 557 00:28:44,737 --> 00:28:49,497 Speaker 1: Boat, you know a series on TV. Yeah, the series 558 00:28:49,537 --> 00:28:49,777 Speaker 1: on that. 559 00:28:50,017 --> 00:28:53,617 Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, I think World War two submarine warfare. The 560 00:28:54,297 --> 00:28:58,217 Speaker 2: casualty rate for those subs, especially as the war went on, 561 00:28:58,417 --> 00:29:01,297 Speaker 2: got super high. So that's you wouldn't want to be 562 00:29:01,297 --> 00:29:02,497 Speaker 2: on one of that. And again it's one of you 563 00:29:02,537 --> 00:29:04,177 Speaker 2: wouldn't want to be on one when things go bad, 564 00:29:04,217 --> 00:29:06,177 Speaker 2: because it goes bad in a very big way. Okay, 565 00:29:06,177 --> 00:29:09,817 Speaker 2: we're we're sitting here and we are praying for I 566 00:29:09,897 --> 00:29:12,137 Speaker 2: mean miracle for the folks that were in this submarine 567 00:29:12,217 --> 00:29:15,297 Speaker 2: that was going down to the Titanic. But it's prayer 568 00:29:15,337 --> 00:29:17,817 Speaker 2: time for sure for them. Tony, I want to just 569 00:29:17,857 --> 00:29:21,777 Speaker 2: give everyone a moment here for you. Where can people 570 00:29:21,817 --> 00:29:25,137 Speaker 2: go to listen to your show and follow what you're doing? 571 00:29:25,217 --> 00:29:28,057 Speaker 2: And can they get a copy of Operation Darkart? Tell 572 00:29:28,097 --> 00:29:28,817 Speaker 2: me what's going on? 573 00:29:29,657 --> 00:29:31,817 Speaker 1: Yeah? So my book's Operation Darkart and The Last Line 574 00:29:31,817 --> 00:29:34,497 Speaker 1: are available on Amazon, still selling pretty well, you know, 575 00:29:34,897 --> 00:29:36,937 Speaker 1: conserving the twelve years old but so it's okay. It's 576 00:29:36,937 --> 00:29:40,737 Speaker 1: still a good movie. It was about Afghanistan, so people 577 00:29:40,817 --> 00:29:44,857 Speaker 1: are curious about that from a number of perspectives. Project 578 00:29:44,897 --> 00:29:47,137 Speaker 1: Sentinel dot net is part of the London Center. People 579 00:29:47,177 --> 00:29:50,217 Speaker 1: go check out our latest stuff. I do a radio 580 00:29:50,257 --> 00:29:52,657 Speaker 1: show called The Hard Truth of Tony Schaffer on the 581 00:29:52,657 --> 00:29:55,977 Speaker 1: America out Loud Network, not competing with you guys, completely separate, 582 00:29:55,977 --> 00:30:00,937 Speaker 1: but we do things everything from my friend Andy Biggs 583 00:30:01,337 --> 00:30:04,497 Speaker 1: to rock and rollers like Shari Curry from The Runaways. 584 00:30:04,777 --> 00:30:08,017 Speaker 1: It's a POOPOIRI of people who actually have, you know, 585 00:30:08,057 --> 00:30:09,897 Speaker 1: a brain and actually want to talk about what the 586 00:30:10,217 --> 00:30:12,297 Speaker 1: think about. You know. We actually kind of do a 587 00:30:12,377 --> 00:30:15,937 Speaker 1: variety of things and we're always out to have interesting guests. 588 00:30:16,057 --> 00:30:17,817 Speaker 1: I'd like to have you come over at some point too, 589 00:30:17,897 --> 00:30:19,657 Speaker 1: talk about some of the things you did in the 590 00:30:19,657 --> 00:30:21,977 Speaker 1: Middle East, you know how Yeah, a lot of the 591 00:30:21,977 --> 00:30:24,817 Speaker 1: policies that you and I had to experience. We want 592 00:30:24,817 --> 00:30:27,017 Speaker 1: to understand how you know, you and I served at 593 00:30:27,017 --> 00:30:29,217 Speaker 1: a level where I think we saw things like what 594 00:30:29,257 --> 00:30:31,777 Speaker 1: the hell's going on? Now we understand how bad it was, 595 00:30:31,817 --> 00:30:33,617 Speaker 1: what we thought was bad. Oh yeah, it's bad and 596 00:30:33,617 --> 00:30:35,377 Speaker 1: worse and I'd like to have a discussion with you 597 00:30:35,377 --> 00:30:35,697 Speaker 1: about that. 598 00:30:35,777 --> 00:30:38,337 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I didn't. I was in this little, unique, 599 00:30:38,337 --> 00:30:44,137 Speaker 2: little spot as a low level, highly replaceable cog in 600 00:30:44,217 --> 00:30:47,337 Speaker 2: the vast CIA machine. But because of some of the 601 00:30:47,417 --> 00:30:52,777 Speaker 2: places I went, I got to see the information at 602 00:30:52,817 --> 00:30:57,697 Speaker 2: the absolute peak decision maker level, and even at my 603 00:30:57,897 --> 00:30:59,937 Speaker 2: young age, I was in my late twenties at the time, 604 00:30:59,977 --> 00:31:02,937 Speaker 2: I was like, Ah, this isn't good. So anyway, we'll 605 00:31:02,977 --> 00:31:05,897 Speaker 2: talk more about that under Tom. Check out Lieutenant Colonel 606 00:31:05,897 --> 00:31:09,057 Speaker 2: Tony Schaeffer's show, Tony my Friend. Always good to have 607 00:31:09,097 --> 00:31:09,417 Speaker 2: you on here. 608 00:31:09,457 --> 00:31:11,057 Speaker 1: Man. Thank you so much much, Thanks Buck, thanks for 609 00:31:11,177 --> 00:31:13,217 Speaker 1: letting me talk about these these intersting issues.