1 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Hello, I'm welcome to Savor protection of I Heart radio 2 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: and stuff Media. I'm an Aries and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum. 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: And today we're talking about strawberries, which is a little 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day tangential. Sure as a little late, but sure 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: not too late. Yeah, you can be in that spirit 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: whenever you want, exactly. Yeah, I prefer for it not 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: to actually be on Valentine's Day. See. And if you 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: hit the sales right, this is perfect time. This is 9 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: prime cheap candy season that you, I guess if you're me, 10 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: still feel guilty about because it's made with slave labor. Sorry, No, 11 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: that's good to know. Yeah, to be aware. And this 12 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: is going to be a Lauren's Killjoy Corner episode later on. 13 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: There's lots of other delightful stuff. Yes, don't worry too much. Yeah, 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: a regular amount of work, normal baseline worry. Yes, I 15 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: think that's appropriate. That's appropriate. Well, I'll start with a 16 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: pleasant memory of mine. Okay, I'll never forget the first 17 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: time I had fresh strawberries and whipped cream, which is like, 18 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: it just seems so obvious, but I never had it. 19 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: I think I was nine, eight or nine. My grandparents 20 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: were staying at the Ritz Carlton in Midtown Atlantic, because yes, 21 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: they had some money, and they had a dessert buffet 22 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: in their room, in their rooms, in their room. Dang dang. Indeed, 23 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: and my grandfather made me a bowl of strawberries and 24 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: cream and it was revelatory. And I'm a delighted by 25 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: this delightful memory. But be like, I was, like, I've 26 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: never seen whipped cream plus strawberries called strawberries and cream before. 27 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: I've always seen it as sweetened cream like non whipped cream. Uh, 28 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: sometimes flavored with vanilla and stuffed plus strawberries, right, But 29 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: a quick Google pulls up recipes both ways, so I 30 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: don't know either way delicious. Yeah, I've never had it 31 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: with the sweetened cream. I'm a whipped cream gal. I guess. 32 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: I guess I both are nice. Well, I believe it. 33 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: I believe it. I used to pick strawberries when we 34 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: lived in Statesboro, Georgia. Um, and one of my favorite 35 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: things was when my mom used to juice fresh strawberries 36 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: and oranges. The best, the best. Yeah. My favorite smoothie 37 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: flavor at my hometown mall was strawberry straight, just straight strawberry, Okay, yeah, yeah, Yeah. 38 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: I went strawberry picking a few times up in Ohio 39 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: when I was a little kid, but yeah, I haven't 40 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 1: done it since i've been down here. Yeah, I think 41 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: that might be a little kid activity. Yeah, I mean, 42 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm still pretty into being out in 43 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: a field that smells like fresh strawberries. And I do 44 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: grow strawberries at home. Oh do you? Yeah? Yeah, I've 45 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: got a little plant that's very, very tenacious, despite despite 46 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: our best efforts to kill it, it's still hanging on. 47 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: It's it's still do sing strawberries after like three years. O. 48 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: Good for you, strawberry plant, I know, right right, I have. 49 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: Strawberries are forever associated with Iron Man too, now for me? 50 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: Oh right, because there's that scene where where Tony is 51 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: trying to apologize to Pepper and he brings her that 52 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: flat of strawberries and she's allergic to strawberry and she's like, 53 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: what's the one thing I'm allergic to? And he's holding 54 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: this heck and flat of strawberries. It's it's real cute, 55 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: Yes it is. They recovered from it eventually. I do 56 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: have a friend who won't eat strawberries because of the seeds. 57 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: She doesn't like eating seeds is a thing. Yeah, yeah, 58 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: I have some some friends who just like a pomegranate 59 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: for the same reason. So interesting. Well, before we get 60 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: in direct question, I just want to put in here. 61 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: I found a five hundred and fifteen page book, I guess, 62 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: on the strawberry. It's called the Strawberry. That's clear, straight 63 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 1: in point. I appreciated that. In my prime takeaway from 64 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: it was that it took folks a long time to 65 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: figure out how strawberries work, and that breeds strawberries have 66 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: fantastic names. Really, that's the takeaway from five fifteen pages. Yeah, 67 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't read it, but I'm happy that 68 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: you did. It was very, very in depth about cross 69 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: breeding strawberries. Okay, but okay, let's get to our questions. Yes, strawberries, 70 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: what are they? Well, strawberries are small fruits from a 71 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: number of species in the genus Frigaria. The cultivated variety 72 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: that we're usually eating from supermarkets is a f on 73 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: a nasa, and they're usually a red, sort of round 74 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: to oblong heart or kind of tongue shaped fruit with 75 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: a yellow or tan or black seeds dotting the outer skin. 76 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: Um though varieties the bare yellow fruit do exist as well. 77 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, they grow on herbaceous meaning like soft and 78 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: not woody plants that lay close to the ground and 79 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: can propagate by sending off shoots called runners. And they 80 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: will dang propagate your whole yard if you do not 81 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: contain them. It's true, you will have strawberries pop up 82 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: in places that you never expected. Strawberries to be another 83 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: horror movie death by strawberry. Uh. They grow pretty a 84 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: little little white or yellow flowers with yellow centers that 85 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: that then develop out into these greenish white berries that 86 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: eventually ripen into that red or yellow color um and 87 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: have like a bright sweet flavors and just a touch 88 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: of tartness. But I said berries, you did. That's kind 89 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: of a lie. I know, a strawberry is not botanically speaking, 90 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: a berry. What so what's a berry? Good question? Well, 91 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: berry is a type of fruit that's a fleshy throughout 92 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: and does not contain anything um stiff and structure inside 93 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: other than the seeds. So like peaches and olives are 94 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: not berries because they contain seeds. Check, but those seeds 95 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: have like a hard outer shell. Okay, um and apples 96 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: are not berries because they have those those papery bits 97 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: that are holding the seeds in the core. Yeah, and 98 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: berries can have skins. Everything from grapes to eggplants, to tomatoes, 99 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: to bananas to pineapples are botanical berries. None of those 100 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: have berries in the name. I no, So we have 101 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: to return to our original question, what's a strawberry? The red, 102 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: fleshy part of a strawberry is technically not the fruit 103 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: of the plant. It's the receptacle for the plants fruits 104 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: and seeds. The crunchy bits on the outside that your 105 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: friend doesn't like. Uh, those are the fruits, oh my god. 106 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: And they each contain a seed. The receptacle feeds the 107 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: fruits and seeds, like if you cut open a strawberry, um, 108 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: you can see the tiny white threads or veins that 109 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: run out from the center to each fruit and seed. Um. 110 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, it entices the receptacle entices animals to come 111 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: eat the fruits and seeds and disperse them. And the 112 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: fruits are hard to help prevent the seeds from being 113 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: digested during the process. This is my mind is blown, 114 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: I know, right, man. Um. This type of fruit, like 115 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: small hard ones that protect seeds, is called an aching, 116 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: which leads to all sorts of good puns. Oh yeah, um, 117 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: and thanks by the way to Botanist in the Kitchen, 118 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: which is a great blog for their excellent breakdown of 119 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: how all of that works. And strawberries are used in 120 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: all kinds of things. Oh yeah, smoothies, juices, pies, cakes, wines, 121 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: cheese cakes, Yeah, salad, soups, muffins, jams, candies, popsicles, ice cream. 122 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: Over half of American children picked the strawberry as their 123 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: favorite fruit, and all kinds of strawberry festivals popular when 124 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: it comes to fragrances too, and things like the bombs, candles, perfumes. 125 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: The name derives from the practice of putting down straw 126 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: around the plants to to keep weeds down and keep 127 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: the berries up off the ground. Um Latin language group names, 128 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, can you help me with the With the 129 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: French one is that phrase phrase, yeah, phrase or fressa um, 130 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: stuff like that. They all derived from the berries fragrance. Yes, 131 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: and speaking of what we perceive as being the scent 132 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: of strawberries is about a dozen to a couple dozen compounds, 133 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: but mostly one called HDMF or strawberry fur an known 134 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: or by brand name used in the food and scent 135 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: industries fu annial for annial. Yes, that's short o um 136 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: and uh. Also speaking of scent, the reason that those 137 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: huge strawberries that you buy in the store can taste 138 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: sort of like nothing um is that, over the past 139 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: century or so, as they've been selectively bred to increased 140 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: size and firmness, which by firmness I really mean like 141 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: durability for travel after picking um and overall crop yield, 142 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: the sugar and flavor content have decreased. It's not always 143 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: a trade off, but it can be. Yeah, we were 144 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: talking about we were talking about how there's nothing quite 145 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: as sad or unsurprisingly like surprisingly sad as a strawberry. Yeah, right, 146 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: especially when they look so big and gorgeous and beautiful 147 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh man, and then it's just like 148 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: this is this might as well be juicy cardboard, right right, 149 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: because you're always well, at least I would dig through 150 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: and find the most colorful and I think this one 151 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: it not always I always look for smaller ones at 152 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: the store. Really, is that the key? I feel like 153 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: it is? Okay, I'll try I'll try that method next time. 154 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, let's talk about nutrition. Uh yeah, 155 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: with a punch of dietary fiber and just a boatload 156 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: of micronutrients um, including over one of your daily recommended 157 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: value of vitamin C in just eight berries. Yeah. Strawberries 158 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: are a great addition to your diet um though they 159 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: are best paired with something with protein and fat in it, because, 160 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: especially with their sugar content, they will help fill you up, 161 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: but they will not keep you going on their own right, 162 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: as we are kind of finding out, because I ate 163 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: mostly strawberries this morning as I was finishing my research 164 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: and I'm a little wacky today. Guys, It's an experiment 165 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: and it's all for the show. There you go. Plus, 166 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: that's just what happened to be for breakfast this morning, 167 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: our work breakfast. Yes, so not my fault, no, but 168 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: all in the name of science. Science. And we do 169 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: have some numbers for you. As of Americans spent some 170 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: fifty two million dollars on strawberries around Valentine's Day. I know, 171 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: right WHOA how many of them were chocolate covered? Oh god, 172 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: we may never know. Oversure, the strawberry industry is worth 173 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: an annual one point for billion dollars by weight. Strawberries 174 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: are the fifth most consumed fresh fruit. The United States 175 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,239 Speaker 1: Department of Agriculture reports that per capital consumption of strawberries 176 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,239 Speaker 1: fresh and frozen at about four point eight five pounds. 177 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: Most of the American yield comes from California. They produced 178 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: an annual billion pounds a year. Yeah, like of American 179 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: strawberries are grown in California, and a third of strawberries 180 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: in the world are from there. They are a big 181 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: name in the strawberry world, as is this one drist call. Uh. 182 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: They are extremely protective of their breeds of strawberries, and 183 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: they've been involved in at least one high profiled lawsuit 184 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: a leging competitors have stolen their proprietary varieties, and their 185 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: breeders are known as joy makers. Joy makers. That is 186 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: some interesting corporate spin. I love it. We love some 187 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: good corporate spinning here. Strawberries and cream is a popular 188 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: Wimbledon tradition where almost thousand are sold. I didn't know this, Yeah, 189 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: me neither, But I guess I've never been uh super 190 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: up on my Wimbledon traditional. But yeah, that accounts for 191 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: like thirty tons of strawberries in a two week period. 192 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: My brain says, no, move on, move on. Because of 193 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: the shape and color of strawberries, they have long been 194 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: associated with love. It was the symbol of the goddess 195 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: of love. Venus and century author Dr William Butler What's wrote, 196 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: doubtless God could have made a better berry, but doubtless 197 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: God never did. H hag. Yeah, strawberry. That is. That 198 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: is some high praise for strawberry. It is. And actually 199 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of really good strawberry quotes out there, 200 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: if that's something that interests you. We went with that one, 201 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: but there are plenty, and there's also plenty of history, 202 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: oh gosh, there is. But first we're going to take 203 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: a quick break for a word from our sponsor, and 204 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,359 Speaker 1: we're back. Thank you sponsored, Yes, thank you. So okay. 205 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: Wild strawberries have been around for oh long long time, 206 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: native throughout Europe and North America. However, early records of 207 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: them are sparse since they weren't really a big part 208 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: of agriculture back then. Since ancient times, people have been 209 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: eating wild strawberries, but they didn't really seek them out 210 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: since these versions would have been bitter and tough. Writings 211 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: from ancient Rome mentioned strawberries in the context of their 212 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: medicinal use. They believed it worked for all kinds of things, 213 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: kidney stones to melancholy and other depressive illnesses. Roman poets 214 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: Virgil and Ovid mentioned strawberries in their works in first 215 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: century c E. But they mentioned them more in the 216 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: context of a decoration than a food. Plenty mentioned it also, 217 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: but only briefly. Yes, they were mentioned in a Ish 218 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: Japanese book, and they were mentioned there as a sweet treat. 219 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: In nineteen sixte King Charles the third of West Francia 220 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: united a citizen who presented him with a plate of 221 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: delicious strawberries as phrase the French word for strawberry, and 222 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: he presented him with a coat of arms with two 223 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: diagonal lines with strawberry leaves and three quadrants. A century later, 224 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: the King of France asked the Strawberry clan, the Strawberry 225 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: Clan to go to Scotland to subdue a rebel named Macbeth. 226 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: The name was anglicized to Frasier. And this comes back 227 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: in a minute. Yes it does. During medieval times and Europe, 228 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: strawberries often symbolize righteousness and perfection. Because of that, Stonemason's 229 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: carved strawberries and altars and around the tops of pillars 230 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: and cathedrals and churches. Strawberries appeared in art and miniatures 231 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: across Europe. People ate them too, sometimes boiled with spices 232 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: and served on bread. Gime intrigued by this was all 233 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: during the time of illumination, when artists started adopting a 234 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: more natural, liberated style. Monks were a big part of this, 235 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: using this style in their prayer books. This was happening 236 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: simultaneously with a desire to glorify the virgin. Several painting 237 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: has depict this, whether it's Joseph holding out a strawberry 238 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: to Jesus to convince him to walk to him, or 239 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: a group of angels gathering strawberries for the Virgin Mary 240 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: and baby Jesus. The strawberry is becoming more widely known 241 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: at this time and was admired for its beauty. By 242 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: the way, this style of illumination, if you've ever seen 243 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: the classic Valentine's Day movie Midsummer, very similar to some 244 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: of the art that they used. The three partitions that 245 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: is now my favorite Valentine's you know, and they showed 246 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: it at the plaza on Valentine's Day. They did. Anyway, 247 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: the ultimate breakup film. The three partition leave of the 248 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: strawberry was believed to represent the Holy Trinity, the strawberry 249 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: itself a drop of christ blood, and the five flower 250 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: pedals the five wounds of Christ. In six the royal 251 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: gardens of King Charles the Fifth had twelve thousand strawberry plants. 252 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: In fourteen eighty five, one of the first botanical illustrations 253 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: of a strawberry appeared in her Berries. They were still 254 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: largely viewed as ornamental, though Europeans were cultivating strawberries by 255 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: the hundred, particularly in France, where it was seen as 256 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: an afro dasy. Newlyweds frequently were served strawberry sep which 257 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: I've had and it is delicious, really yeah. It's just 258 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: kind of like a chilled puree of strawberries and I 259 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: think cream. That does sound delicious, really nice. YEA Horonomous 260 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: Bosh painted strawberries into his famous or perhaps infamous Garden 261 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: of Earthly Delights trip Tick around the year fifteen hundred. 262 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: The large scale cultivation of European strawberries was taking place 263 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: in Paris by the sixteen hundreds. This was around the 264 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: time it started to become equally food and ornamental. Cardinal 265 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: Thomas Wassley, a member of King Henry They's court, gets 266 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: the credit for coming up with the combo of strawberries 267 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: and cream in fifteen o nine, although it was almost 268 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: definitely a chief that came up with it. Probably I 269 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: can't imagine he spent that much time in his kitchen. 270 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: I I doubt it. I doubt it. He was integral 271 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: in the construction of Hampton Court and Tutor, England, an 272 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: establishment that fed over six people twice a day, and 273 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: this dessert was an easy one to prepare for a 274 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: large amount of people. Five points of good husbandry out 275 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: of fifty seven suggested that strawberry cultivation was an appropriate 276 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: quote employment for women. Wife into the garden and set 277 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: me a plot with strawberry roots. The best to be 278 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: got such growing abroad among thorns in the wood, well 279 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: chosen and picked to prove excellent good. Okay, sure, I 280 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: like strawberries too. I feel like I just set a 281 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: spell and I'm going to have some kind of weird 282 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: strawberry experience later. Uh. Only only you can make your 283 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: dreams possible. You're right, You're right. I need to take 284 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: control over my own destiny. The Fifook Gardeners a Labyrinth 285 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: came with this tidbit about strawberries. They be much eaten 286 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: at all men's tables in the summertime, with wine and sugar, 287 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: and they will grow in gardens until the bigness of 288 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: the mulberry. The strawberry requires small labor, but by diligence 289 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: of the gardener becometh so great that the same yielded 290 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: fair and big berries as the berries of the bremble 291 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: in the hedge, the bremble in the head, the bramble 292 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: in the hedge. In seventeen o nine, Louis the fourteenth 293 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: Doctor apparently forbade him from eating strawberries for reasons unknown um, 294 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: though the book History of Food suggests that it may 295 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: have been because he was known to over indulge in 296 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: anything that he liked, and that strawberries were his favorite fruit, 297 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: especially in wine. Um because apparently the fashion at the 298 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: time dictated that strawberries and cream was a lady's dish 299 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: and have that. Um. He also apparently held a poetry 300 00:18:54,040 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: competition about strawberries. That's kind of endearing. Yeah. Um, there's 301 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: a couple of poems in French if you want to 302 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: attempt to read them, yeah, or if we can get 303 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: casey on the case in here in casey on the 304 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: case party listeners wants to send us some kind of 305 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: slam poetry reading about strawberries that would be amazing. I 306 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: would be amazing. In sevente or seventeen fourteen differs depending 307 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: on the source. A French mathematician slash map maker, also 308 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: sometimes subscribed as a spy okay named am a day 309 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: Francois Frasier returned from Chile with the Chilean strawberry descended 310 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: from this guy was descended from the aforementioned Fraser's strawberry clan. Okay, Yes, 311 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: this strawberry. The Chilean strawberry was desired for its size, 312 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: but the European climate did not suit the Chilean strawberry 313 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: until it was crossed with the Virginia strawberry, a new 314 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: world variety that arrived in Europe in the sixteen hundreds, 315 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: resulting in our modern garden strawberry in seventeen fifty ish 316 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: in Brittany, France. Yeah, like, no one did this on purpose. 317 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: It was just this wonderful accident or or at least 318 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: like an accident that led to the sturdier, larger berries 319 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: that we know today um and which at the time 320 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: were able to be shipped out to Paris and London. Yes, 321 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: the book I mentioned at the top, the strawberry five pages. 322 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just so many experiments of crossing 323 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: strawberries with different strawbres and they didn't know why it 324 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: was happening or what was working. Like they couldn't figure 325 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: out like what specifically about this plant versus this plant 326 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: led to this other plant, and the terminology was described 327 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: in ways that was very confusing because it was like 328 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: masculine strawberry versus feminine strawberry. Oh yeah, there's a whole 329 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: thing with the sex of strawberries. It's actually super fascinating. 330 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: I didn't make notes about it because it's also kind 331 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: of dull, yeah, and complicated somehow both at the same time. 332 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: Well there, okay, quick sidebar. There are masculine ones. There 333 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: are male strawberries and female strawberries, and there are some 334 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: hermaphrodite strawberries, and the way that they read therefore can 335 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: be a bunch of different ways. They are also um 336 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: like the most recent plant known to have developed male 337 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: and female plants. Most plants originally were hermaphroditic, but yeah, 338 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: I don't know the strawberry. The strawberry. This is why 339 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: I didn't. It was very complicated in that book. But 340 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: they were. They were into it again. That was one 341 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: of my main takeaways. They were determined to figure this out. 342 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: They're really into it all right. Back to some history. 343 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: In seventeen sixty four, seventeen year old Antoine Nicola Duchesna 344 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: gifted a pot of Chilean strawberries to King Louis the fifteenth. 345 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: The berries were painted for the Royal Botanic Library, and 346 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: Duchesna was tasked with raising more of the strawberries at 347 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: the Verst Sailles kitchen garden. He went on to write 348 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: a treatise on strawberries, like seventeen and I think it 349 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: took him several years, but he was very young. When 350 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: it came out. He was like seen as the expert 351 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: on a strawberry for a while. Cool, so good for 352 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah, legend goes that prominent member of Napoleon's court, 353 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: Madame Tutien baits and fresh strawberry juice. We don't know 354 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: how frequently, but one back goldverd two pounds of strawberries, 355 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: two pounds of gosh, would you just be sticky. I 356 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: feel like you would just be sticky and then all 357 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: the flies and bees would come at you. Did she 358 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: think this through. Maybe it is just a legend. Maybe 359 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: that's just one of those stories people said. Yeah. When 360 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: the first European galist arrived in North America, they found 361 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: that wild strawberries were abundant. Native Americans used them in 362 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: their cooking. Strawberry bread was probably present at the earliest 363 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: American feast. This meant that strawberries weren't really cultivated until 364 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century, when a fancy new dessert had a 365 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: meteoric rise. Strawberries and cream yep, New York became the 366 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: center of strawberry py action and shipping. After the advent 367 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: of refrigerated railroad cars. They were a popular street food 368 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: in big cities, the strawberries and cream street food. One 369 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: Cherokee legend describes an argument between a man and a 370 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: woman and she runs from the man. The man implore 371 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: the creator to sew her down so you could catch 372 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: up with her and apologize. Here, so the Creator threw 373 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: down berries to slow down, but she didn't stop until 374 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 1: she encountered strawberries. She filled a basket with them and 375 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: returned to the man ready to Yeah. By the time 376 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: the guy caught up, she was like, oh man, we've 377 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: got strawberries. And he was like I like those two. Yeah, 378 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: strawberries bring people together. I don't know if i'd use them, 379 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: you know your Miles Mayberry in arguments. But maybe Tony 380 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 1: Stark knows about this legend and that's why he brings pepper. 381 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: Maybe he knew what he was doing all along. When 382 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: we don't give Tony Stark and he credited for its 383 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: Cherokee mythology, yes, so we don't. It's true, it's true. 384 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: We need to reconsider this. U. S. Strawberry production was 385 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: common by eight and that's around when large scale production 386 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: began in Europe. To throughout the eighteen hundreds, more strawberries 387 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: were produced in the U S And Europe, partially because 388 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: the Industrial Revolution and its speedy trains and ships allowed 389 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: um these still relatively delicate berries to make it into 390 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: cities from far flung farms, thus calling for more production. Yes, 391 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: in horticulturalist Charles Hovey debuted the Hovey cultivar. In eighteen fifty, 392 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: we had the first strawberry festival. Strawberries and cream were 393 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: a feature at the very first Wimbledon held in eighteen 394 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: seventies seven. I almost went on a very big Wimbledon 395 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: rabbit hole, but I had to pull it together. Good 396 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: for you, Yes, but if anyone's ever been and knows 397 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: about the food traditions there, oh absolutely let us know. 398 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, we'll have to go. Well, we all have 399 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: to have a Derby episode, Wimbledon episode, all the things. 400 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: I can play some tennis. I can't kept beating Wimbledon, 401 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: but I played in its back in my day, so 402 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: I would appreciate it, I suppose, is what I'm saying. Cool. Yeah, cool. 403 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: During World War Two what would become drift goals when 404 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: a group of growers hired some breeders and get their 405 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: journey to dominate, the berry market sort of got its 406 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: first its foundation, I guess. Prior to that, Um and 407 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: Japanese in tournament, Japanese immigrants dominated the US strawberry market. 408 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: While modern strawberries were introduced in Japan in the eighteen forties, 409 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: first as decorations, it wasn't until the spread of greenhouses 410 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: during and after World War Two that strawberries became more 411 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: affordable and widespread up there. Also, after World War two 412 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: um in the nineteen fifties, so okay. For about thirty years, 413 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: farmers in California had been struggling with the soil born 414 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: fungus UM that would cause strawberry crops to wilt. It's 415 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 1: frequently called wilt um. Researchers in the fifties finally came 416 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: upon a combination of compounds that could combat this. Unfortunately, 417 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: that combination was too toxic. Compounds clara pigrine, which is 418 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: a tear gas that was used in World War One, 419 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: and methyl bromide, which is a pesticide that was started 420 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: to be used in World War Two. But this combo 421 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: was so effective at killing wilt fung gui that it 422 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: became basically the industry standard to fumigate your strawberry soil 423 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: with the combination. Like apparently, banks in California would not 424 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: lend money to farmers who were not fumigating um. It 425 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: allowed yields to increase um and growers to focus on 426 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: creating new varieties. Right and in n DRIs coll debut 427 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: their first proprietary strawberry Z five A, and the industry 428 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: does still use these compounds even though they're a danger 429 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: to the environment and farm workers and local communities who 430 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: get exposed to them. Um. There's an excellent episode of 431 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: the podcast gastropod all about it. UM. The episode is 432 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: called Running on Fumes Strawberries Dirty Secret. It came out 433 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: just last year, in twenty nineteen. UM. Go check that 434 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: out for lots more short story, there are alternatives being investigated. UM. 435 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: For example, lots of farmers in Europe used greenhouses and 436 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: either hydroponics or other media than soil. But unfortunately those 437 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: methods are kind of expensive, and so the industry has 438 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: built it up to such a point that it's it 439 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: would cost more than it's worth to a lot of 440 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: farmers to switch over a little bit more on that 441 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: in a second. In the meanwhile, Uh, strawberry fields. So 442 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: I totally forgot about this when I was doing the outline. 443 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: I just kind of randomly thought about that and just 444 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: put Strawberry Fields Forever question Mark and Lauren answered my question. Yeah, okay. 445 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: So um. The Beatles song Strawberry Fields Forever came out 446 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: in nine UM, and it is partially in reference to 447 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: this Salvation Army location in Liverpool, England, which is a 448 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: Victorian era house and the surrounding grounds which were called 449 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: Strawberry Field. Um. So John Lennon spent time there as 450 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: a kid and eventually wrote this song. Um. It was 451 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: a children's home from the nineteen thirties through almost the 452 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: end of the century and has been reopened as a 453 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: historic site and education center for local kids with with 454 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: differing learning abilities. There's also a part of a Central 455 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: Park called Strawberry Fields that was dedicated to Lenin in 456 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: the year after his death in his home near Central Park. Yes, 457 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: and as you can imagine, quite a big tourist draw, 458 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: but usually someone playing music. And yeah, very pretty over there. Yeah. Yeah, 459 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: there's a there's a nice little stone mosaic with imagine 460 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: in the middle. Yeah. Um. Or researchers mapped the first 461 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: genome of a strawberry in eleven um. The the wood strawberry, 462 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: which is F veska um. The common commercial variety didn't 463 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: get its genome mapped all the way until it's more complicated. 464 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: It has eight sets of chromosomes, meaning it has four 465 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: direct parents. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot. It's it's it's 466 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: a lot to contend with, like genetically speaking, um, but yeah, 467 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: this genome map might lead to new developments in breeding 468 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: varieties that have more of the traits that we want, 469 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: like flavor and resistance to pests like wilt um, and 470 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: fewer that we don't want, which in turn might finally 471 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: help get those toxic compounds out of the industry. Um 472 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: like like it's it's bad, y'all. Like like one of 473 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: the downsides of of bethel bromide is that it contributes 474 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: to ozone depletion. UM, But it's considered so crucial to 475 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: large scale strawberry production that the industry, the strawberry industry 476 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: has successfully lobbied for its continued use for thirty years. Um. 477 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: Albeit it's been scaled back to just in nurseries as 478 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: but it's still like hoof gosh. There's also a whole 479 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: book about that called Wilted Pathogens, Chemicals and the Fragile 480 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: Future of the Strawberry Industry. Um. If you're looking for 481 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: uh interesting if slightly depressing, read something to uplement Giljoy corner. Yeah, yeah, 482 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: it's it's I think it's hopeful in the end, because 483 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: it's saying that that with better farming practices and more 484 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: awareness of all of these compounds that we started using 485 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: in the nineteen hundreds that aren't great, that are that 486 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: are good for very specific things, but are not great 487 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: for other reasons. Um that by just being more aware 488 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,239 Speaker 1: of stuff like that, and by changing um consumer and 489 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: industry expectations about the cost of food, that we can 490 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: all make good change in the world. And we all 491 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: want to do that. We do and and I and 492 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to end on a slightly nicer note than 493 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: that one, So so tell us a nice story, Eddie. Okay, Okay. So, 494 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: as I was doing the research for this episode, there 495 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: was one variety of strawberry that kept coming up. It 496 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: was kind of like a white whale almost like people 497 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: mentioned it. I didn't really know what they were talking about, 498 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: but I found a whole article that in sixteen, David 499 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: Carp at the Smithsonian reported on the journey of horticulture 500 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: risk Harry N. Schwartz to try and breed the favorite 501 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: strawberry of Jane Austen, Okay, that has long been out 502 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: of the rotation. And it's called the musk strawberry, yes, 503 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: because of its its musky scent. Oh yeah, it has 504 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: a very strong smell. It was described as spicy and 505 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: floral and a mix of honey and wine and cheese. Yeah. 506 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: It was a popular cultivar in Europe from the sixteenth 507 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: to the nineteenth centuries, and Jane Austen loved it, loved it, 508 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: but they were soft and didn't transport well, so they 509 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: fell out of fashion in favor of heartier cultivars. They 510 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: were still around, they were just very very rare. Fdr 511 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: fell in love with them after trying some of the 512 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: child while traveling in Germany, so much so he asked 513 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: the Secretary of Agriculture to dabble into musk varieties of 514 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: strawberries backing strawberries. Yeah, it's a it was a really 515 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: interesting reed. We're giving you a lot of little sources 516 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: you can go check out, but this. But it was 517 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: cool because the person who's trying to bring these back 518 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: just described him trying, like all of these strawberries. Nope, nope, 519 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: that's what I understand. A lot of strawberry researchers wind 520 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: up doing just eating like a lot of strawberries and 521 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: being like huh no, not quite yeah, like maybe this one, yeah, 522 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't. I can't imagine that. You know, 523 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: our very first episode we did on sparkling wine, the 524 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: our friend the Brewer, he said something that stayed with 525 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: me to this day was that he was waiting until 526 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: his palette was refined enough to be able to appreciate 527 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: some really expensive I think from the Titanic bottle of 528 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: something that he's just saving. He's like, yeah, my palt's 529 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: not developed enough to taste it yet, so I'm just 530 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: gonna wait. I still think about that. Yeah, But I mean, 531 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: I guess if every day you're trying strawberries, you learned 532 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: to pick out on the certain things. Yeah, I guess. 533 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: Very impressive, very depressive. That's about what we have to 534 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: say on the strawberry. We do have a little bit 535 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: more for you, but first we've got one more quick 536 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. 537 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsoring, Yes, thank you, and we're back with 538 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: listen beautiful. Except for my elbow hit the mike. I apologized. 539 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: You know I had to do the choreography, Laura wrote, 540 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: You don't know how excited I was to day to 541 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: open my podcast app to see the title waxing poetic 542 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: about sticky Rice in my podcast feed. As someone with 543 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: a taie mother who was born and lived for a 544 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: few years in Gentian Laos, I have tried my whole 545 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: life to express my love and admiration for gluteness rice, 546 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: or as we always called it growing up, sticky rice. 547 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: We ate it with almost every meal. Much like how 548 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: other cultures use bread to mop up sauces, we use 549 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: balls of sticky rice to scoop up larb topped with 550 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: spicy sete and swirl and papaya salad. But no one 551 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: I grew up with had ever heard of it, and 552 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: even nowadays it is rare to find on Asian menus. 553 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: Once a friend of mine asked how to make sticky 554 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: rice like they serve with Chinese takeout. I was a guest. First, 555 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: I informed him that the rice from Chinese takeout was 556 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: not sticky ice, and then proceeded to inform him that 557 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: to make rice that doesn't cook into individual little loose greens, 558 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: I would be impossible to lift with a pair of chopsticks. 559 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: He had to start with a rice that does not 560 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: come from a box and has nothing to do with 561 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: the San Francisco treat. My two girls grew up loving 562 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: sticky rice too, which became a bit awkward when I 563 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: took my youngest to her pediatrician and the doctor asked 564 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: her what her favorite foods were. In addition to gluteness rice, 565 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: my daughter loves steamed art of chokes, so her three 566 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: year old reply was stinky rice and leaves. She didn't 567 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: know they were called artichokes. I could only wonder what 568 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: my doc thought I fed my child on the daily 569 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: stinky rice and leaves. I mean it sounds of the thing. Yeah, 570 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,959 Speaker 1: that's not the worst, not the worst. Three year olds 571 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: are good at the worst, Yes they are. Um Antonio wrote, 572 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: I'm the longtime listener who wrote in last year about 573 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: the pineapple mention in the favorite Oh thank you. Yeah. Well, 574 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: I was catching up on episodes that came out around 575 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: the holidays, and the Pineapple Redux episode was like an 576 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: awesome related New Year's surprise. I visited Hawaii quite a 577 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 1: bit in the past few years, so I really enjoyed 578 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: the episodes related to your trip, especially the visit to 579 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: a pineapple farm. I just got back from Kawaii, where 580 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: I toward the Kauaie sugar Loaf pineapple farm. The Quai 581 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: sugar loaf is a white pineapple that's super sweet and 582 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: fleshy that you can even eat the core. Unfortunately, the 583 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: pineapples are in short supply and the farm had a 584 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: lot of back orders. Each person was only able to 585 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: bring back a baby pineapple you picked, so we made 586 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: sure to power wash them twice to an sure that 587 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: they could pass agricultural inspections to bring back to the mainland. 588 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: We gave one to our pineapple obsessed friend who is 589 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 1: attempting to plant them in our considerably cooler Northern California climate. 590 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: This friend, on a previous trip to Hawaii, vowed to 591 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: eat a pineapple a day. That scheme came in handy 592 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: when we went to the beach and my husband and 593 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: I both got stung by jellyfish. We had no remedies 594 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: nearby and didn't want to pee on the wound. We 595 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: realized we needed something acidic to neutralize the sting. Our 596 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: friend had packed some pineapple chunks as snacks first family, 597 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: so we just started rubbing our limbs with pineapple chunks, 598 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: which did the job just fine. As for the sugarloaf pineapple, 599 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: they're only sold at farmers markets and stores on Kauai 600 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: and at a few specialty grocery stores when in supply. 601 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: On Wahu and Maui. One can order and get them 602 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: shipped to the mainland. But better yet, you can all 603 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: do another saver Field trip to the islands you missed 604 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: and visit the farm yourselves. A pineapple a day keeps 605 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: the stingers away. Well, there you go, doctor recommend it. 606 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: I suppose we have to return. I guess we gotta go. Oh. 607 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: I never would have thought to put pineapple on a 608 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: jellyfish sting, but now my mind is expanded. There you go. 609 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: Oh gosh. We learned such wonderful things from you all listeners. 610 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: We really do, and we would love to continue to 611 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: do so. 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