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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 2: And we are back with our number two of the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. And it's time for

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Speaker 2: a little fantasy football focus here, and the focus today

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Speaker 2: is going to be directly on the Steelers, Steelers exclusively absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Looking here at Fantasy Life ian Ian Hart, it's did

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Speaker 2: a little breakdown here.

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Speaker 3: So just the prefaces. This is Fantasylife dot com. It's

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Speaker 3: Matthew Berry's website. But Ian and Dwayne McFarland are two

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Speaker 3: of my favorite fantasy analysts and they're doing every team.

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Speaker 3: They've gone through both Eastern divisions and they're into the

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Speaker 3: North on both sides of the conferences, and they're pretty extensive.

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Speaker 3: I mean these are big I'm right ups.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So looking at how they're breaking this down here,

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Speaker 2: taking a look at the quarterback, they have their Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Life consensus ranking on Russell Wilsons QB thirty two.

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Speaker 4: That seems pretty low to.

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Speaker 3: Me, seems extremely low. I mean it seems like they

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Speaker 3: think he's not going to be this quarterback, you know,

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Speaker 3: for the entirety of the season, and.

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Speaker 4: I think that's wrong.

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Speaker 3: I think that's wrong too. I mean, at least I

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Speaker 3: don't know if O last seventeen games. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if any of these guys will in terms of injuries

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Speaker 3: or Danie Jones.

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Speaker 2: I just know Russell Wilson over the course of his

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Speaker 2: career has been remarkably healthy, very durable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, who knows. Anybody can get hurt, but

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Speaker 3: if he's not the quarterback, it's probably because he got pulled. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, but no, I would have him higher. He

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Speaker 3: threw twenty six touch down passed last year.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, and he's got a better offensive line, you know.

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Speaker 2: I just I think, you know, is he gonna throw

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Speaker 2: twenty six touchdown passes again this year?

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Speaker 4: Probably not quite that many, but.

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Speaker 3: That was in fifteen games. That was a fifteen games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do think that he'll run some.

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Speaker 3: He'll run some, not like young Russ or Lake Fields

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Speaker 3: would have.

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Speaker 2: But if you're gonna give me a choice between him

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Speaker 3: Jones, yeah, I mean, I'm sure number Sam Darnold twenty

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Speaker 3: four to thirty one is not.

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Speaker 4: Not a great list, like you tell me, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know, right. The Raiders guys. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I don't how's he thirty two on that

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Speaker 2: list includes those guys bo.

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Speaker 3: Nick right, right right. There's some dudes that are going

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Speaker 3: to struggle that are not fantasy relevant.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it. So they have some some stats here.

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Speaker 2: Wilson through twenty seven percent of his passes behind the

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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage in twenty twenty three, the highest mark

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Speaker 2: among five hundred and nine quarterbacks since two thousand and five.

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Speaker 2: I believe that was a direct result of what Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton wanted him to do.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think it was him being cowardly like

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna dump it. I think it was a

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Speaker 3: lot of designed quick hitters. Protection wasn't right, you know,

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Speaker 3: So I don't think that'll be a constant here.

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Speaker 2: He also threw just twenty six percent of his passes

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Speaker 2: between five and fifteen yards downfield, which was the lowest

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Speaker 2: mark also since two thousand and five. No, he's not that,

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Speaker 2: that's not who he is.

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Speaker 3: Not who he is. A side notes and again pro

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Speaker 3: football focused grades. Okay, I mean they're not gospel, they're

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Speaker 3: not chiseled in stone, but they came out today with

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Speaker 3: every quarterback from zero to ten yards, ten to twenty yards,

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Speaker 3: and twenty and above, and Wilson was in the leaders

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Speaker 3: from ten to twenty. I was shocked with that, with

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Speaker 3: just pro football grade throwing in that area, he was

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Speaker 3: like eighth or ninth. I was like, h that's not

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Speaker 3: usually his game, but maybe it was better than my thought.

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Speaker 2: So his EPA per dropback over the last decade, last decade, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: He's ranked sixth, third, fifteenth, thirteenth, sixth, eleventh, fourteen, nineteen,

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Speaker 2: twenty fifth, and twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: Bad season.

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Speaker 3: I know there's a cliff coming here.

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Speaker 4: Last year he was eighteenth.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't as bad as people thought because he didn't

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Speaker 3: Poliction percentage wasn't bad, you know, so the production is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if he is the eighteenth, if he's eighteenth in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think I'm trying to think who

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Speaker 4: Know, here's where Arthur Smith's quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I think it could be better than eighteen Arthur.

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Speaker 4: Smith with the in terms of what we got here.

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Speaker 2: This is uh, well, he's to be really high. With Tannehill,

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Speaker 2: his past play rate has looked. This is what he

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Speaker 2: has called passing play. Okay, since he has been an

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. Twenty nineteen was fifty six point eight percent.

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Speaker 2: That was twenty ninth. Yeah, twenty twenty it was fifty

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Speaker 2: one point seven thirty. Now remember that year Derrick Henry

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Speaker 2: had two thousand rushing Oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like NATA defense in a line.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, his first year with the Falcons, they threw

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Speaker 2: the ball sixty two point six percent of the time.

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Speaker 2: That was twelfth best, twelfth, most and most because they

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Speaker 2: didn't have any running back.

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Speaker 3: No, they changed that though.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they still have Matt Ryan at that point.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two they were forty eight point five percent.

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Speaker 2: That was thirty seconds. They had no quarterbacks, no wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: And they ran the ball really well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they ran the ball better really most teams.

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Speaker 2: And then last year it was fifty five point three percent,

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Speaker 2: extrapolation there is that, well, Arthur Smith's not going to

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Speaker 3: Right, right, I mean if Wilson's not super if he's throwing,

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Speaker 3: their logic is if Wilson's going to continue to throw

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Speaker 3: short and they're not going to throw a lot, there's

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Speaker 3: not a lot of fancy points to be had. And

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Speaker 3: I don't think he'll run like he did back in

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Speaker 3: the day. I get it, but I think you're going

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Speaker 2: I think they'll be closer to twentieth throwing the ball,

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Speaker 2: then they will be thirty.

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Speaker 3: Second me too. I also think that if you would

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Speaker 3: the guys he played with were really really junk junk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think they were a little low on

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Speaker 2: I think he's closer to twentieth in the fantasy quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Like, I wouldn't hate if he's my backup for fantasy.

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Speaker 4: No, you know, because he'll run a little bit there.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Again, twenty touchdown passes in the red zone last.

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Speaker 3: Year, touchdounds ass will go a long way, and I

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Speaker 3: think you have enough to make him fantasy.

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Speaker 4: Get weapons in the red zone weapons. So yeah, I

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Speaker 4: think it'd be better.

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Speaker 2: Looking here at the running Backs Nausea, Harris ranks twenty

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Speaker 2: third in their overall list, Jalen Moore in twenty seventh.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if it's PPR, would you prefer Warren? I think

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Speaker 3: I prefer Harrison's standard. Yeah, I think he's gonna get

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Speaker 2: I still think Harris is gonna get. I mean, Harris

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he'll get more rushing attempts period. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, but I don't think that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and I think they'll both catch passes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Warren will catch a lot. It seems

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Speaker 3: the fantasy landscape well enough to be like, who's like last.

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Speaker 2: Year they were both like RB twos, even if it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were both a little better than that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially I mean in the second half of the season,

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Speaker 2: Harris was pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah fantasy yeah, right, Okay, they're projecting Steelers are on

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Speaker 3: the ball a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so looking at the touch breakdown from last year, well,

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Speaker 2: last year when people said that Arthur Smith didn't use

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Speaker 2: Bjeon Robinson. Oh that's as he had seventy two touches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and there were times that Algier got the ball.

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Speaker 3: The fantasy owners wonted Bejon to get the ball. And if

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Speaker 3: you remember, it's one of the most frustrating points of

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Speaker 3: my fantasy life was Bijon was sick that game. Remember

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Speaker 3: He got like two touches or whatever. He wasn't well

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Speaker 4: Tyler Aljaerre got two hundred and four touches.

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Speaker 2: Last year the Steelers' backfield Najie Harris got two hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty four touch Jalen Mooren got two hundred and ten.

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Speaker 2: So it's actually more touches than what Robinson and Algier

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they're probably about where they should

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Speaker 2: And if memory serves more time possession, I want to

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Speaker 2: say Corderyo Patterson got like sixty to seventy touches.

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Speaker 3: It sounds right, sounds right. I don't feel get that

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Speaker 3: a pretty good stretch there where the Steelers were turning

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Speaker 3: out first downs and run the ball like crazy. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So there's enough there to support both guys easily wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how I don't envy them with the

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Speaker 3: non pickings guys.

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Speaker 2: George Pickens ranks twenty fifth in their rankings.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean there's a ton of good receivers. I

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Speaker 3: mean so like when we did the Pro Football Focus ranks,

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Speaker 3: I think he was thirsty thirty second, thirty three and

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Speaker 3: we didn't quibble too much with that. Yeah, I'd like

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Speaker 3: from score touchdowns. He just score touchdowns, get the ball.

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Speaker 3: But there's a lot of good ones to pick from too.

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Speaker 2: Roman Wilson comes in at wide receiver seventy nine, Van

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Speaker 3: If you told me I have to own a receiver

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Speaker 3: not named Pickens, I think i'd want Wilson.

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Speaker 2: I guess is sneaky.

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Speaker 3: mean if he could break away and score two home

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Speaker 2: So you know, if you look at the wider sixty

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Speaker 2: Over two year stretch, the top performers in yards per

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Speaker 3: Doesn't surprise me. And he had four or five stinkers

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Speaker 2: You know, I'd take George picks at wide receiver twenty

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Speaker 2: we do we think Mike Evans, for example, is going

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Speaker 3: I would take Evans over him.

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Speaker 3: I just thought he was awesome last year.

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Speaker 4: It was great last year, but he was a contract year.

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Speaker 3: Now I get paid, Like I'm taking them over neighbors

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely the ro Harrison though, Like I just

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Speaker 3: I I mean, you can come up with twenty four

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Speaker 4: Well I know that, yeah, But.

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Speaker 4: Else for target share.

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Speaker 2: There's numbers that they threw out their fifty five catches.

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Speaker 3: The new quarterback receivers stuff. Yeah, I mean a lot

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Speaker 4: Than that, absolutely tight end Pat Friarmouth.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think the Steelers is gonna be thirty

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Speaker 2: Tight end fourteen way undervalued.

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Speaker 3: I've bought him in two of my six dinsty leagues.

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Speaker 3: I've picked him up for cheap. I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Were their projections on him? They don't have projections? No, okay,

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Speaker 3: I think so?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Ends in Atlanta last year. Come on for one hundred

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Speaker 2: and two catches in twelve hundred yards? Yeah, is he

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Speaker 4: No, but let's say the title catch sixty five?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, could the tight end room catch a hundred? Yes?

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Speaker 3: I bet he gets at least two thirds of that, right.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Right, it was like sixty five

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Speaker 2: I think, is you catch it, you know, sixty five

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a tight end that catches touchdown every

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Speaker 4: And yeah, and fifty yards a game.

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Speaker 3: That's you know again, like he was really frustrating to

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Speaker 3: a couple he blew up, but he showed he was capable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, he said the talking about this season prediction here,

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Speaker 2: The Steelers defense is posted number seven, number sixteen, number five,

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Speaker 2: number three, number twenty, number ten, and most recently number

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Speaker 4: Want in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Of course, they still have Cam Hayward around, they get

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Speaker 2: He said that group alone should keep the steeling. Doesn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that group should keep.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers in games, even if the offense remains a

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Speaker 2: dumpster fire. He said, that's the problem with betting. Confidence

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Speaker 2: of Tomlin's five hundred or better streak coming to an end.

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Speaker 4: He said, I'll lean.

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Speaker 2: Towards the over seven and a half wins even if

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Speaker 2: I don't love them minus one seventy five odds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the odds aren't great.

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Speaker 2: The odds are not great on that one, but I

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Speaker 3: Makes me wonder if it's going to bump up to eight.

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Speaker 4: Eight and a half years ago.

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Speaker 2: They keep the half there so they don't have to push,

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Speaker 4: Let's do that.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and Matt

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Speaker 2: we mentioned, you know, the winning.

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Speaker 3: Winning Street.

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Speaker 2: The years the Steelers have are now up to h

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Speaker 2: They haven't been a losing season since two thousand.

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Speaker 3: And three, a long time ago.

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Speaker 4: It's a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: It's the second longest streak in NFL history of not

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Speaker 2: having a losing season. And people pooh pooh that like

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Speaker 2: it's something that.

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Speaker 3: I know if you make jokes about it now, yeah, oh,

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Speaker 3: never heard of losing season?

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Speaker 2: Would you prefer to have losing seasons? Those aren't fun?

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Speaker 3: I get it, yeah, and it frustrates me to no end.

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Speaker 3: And I trust me. I understand that they haven't had

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Speaker 3: as much playoff success as you all have wanted lately.

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Speaker 3: I get that, and the organization, mister Rooney would tell

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Speaker 3: you we should have more playoff success than that. But

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Speaker 3: the accomplishment of not ever stinking is really, really, really

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Speaker 3: really hard to do in any sport, and especially one

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Speaker 3: like this where you could lose a quarterback or TJ

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Speaker 3: wats out for most of the year. Things that happened,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And it's a physical game.

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Speaker 3: You don't just plug my Jordan in there and you're gonna,

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Speaker 3: you know, run through the league every year. I mean,

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Speaker 3: so I think it. It bothers me when people laugh

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Speaker 3: that's a really impressive feat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, try being a Browns fan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: we're a Lions fan. Those you know, the Lions are

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Speaker 3: But for my lifetime, they haven't been. Right.

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Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills went twenty five years without without you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, as great as New England have been

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Speaker 2: So in four of the past five seasons, the Steelers

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Speaker 2: despite being outscored.

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Speaker 3: I know, it's weird. It's weird.

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Speaker 2: There have only been sixteen teams in that five year

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Speaker 3: Oh that's you, you're saying. So it's not sixteen different teams.

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Speaker 3: It's only happened sixteen times times, and the Steelers own

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Speaker 4: Is what it is for most teams.

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Speaker 3: It happened once and maybe one game you got beat

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Speaker 3: and you end up with a negative point differential. I

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Speaker 3: to even out. It's just not true.

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Speaker 4: They don't for certain teams.

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Speaker 3: They just don't don't for Belichick, right, I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: Do, it really is, and I think people underestimate that

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Speaker 4: Is, well I lost that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. And I also hate, Oh they didn't beat

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Speaker 3: If they were, oh, they should have beat the Browns

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Speaker 2: So the San Francisco forty nine ers this year are

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Does anybody think the forty nine ers are.

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Speaker 3: Going to go unbeaten? Of course not right.

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Speaker 2: Does anybody think they're going to have fifteen wins? Probably not,

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Speaker 4: They are the favorite.

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Speaker 3: All the time. It happens, right, the Chiefs don't blow

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Speaker 3: I mean everybody does. So, I don't know I mean,

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Speaker 3: I do think it's And to be frank, what's that

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Speaker 4: Well, that takes you back to the twenty nineteen season.

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Speaker 2: So let's so when people talk about that, well he

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Speaker 3: Say right, And to be fair, I mean, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: This would be the last time that they you know,

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Speaker 2: you look at and go, oh, yeah, they were a bet,

444
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 2: they were they had a better situation at.

445
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 4: The Jaguars, yes, yes, yes.

446
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 3: Yes, or.

447
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 2: Maybe in you know twenty twenty he had he had

448
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 2: a better quarterback than Baker Mayfield. Yeah, even at Roethlisberger

449
00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 2: coming back off of the the elbowsher.

450
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 3: I trust Bend to pull out a game more than

451
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 3: that version of Baker.

452
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, there have been the playoff stuff.

453
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 2: To me, they've been extenuating. The only one I can't

454
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 2: excuse away and say, hey that that.

455
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 4: Shouldn't that.

456
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 2: Is those games against the jag is the game against

457
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 2: the Jaguars in twenty seventeen. At the same time, that

458
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 2: was a bad matchup for them, and they showed that

459
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 2: during the regular season when when Jacksonville came here and.

460
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 4: Kicked them out of the Steelers they did.

461
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: They were a physical football team, and that twenty seventeen

462
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 2: Steelers team was built. We got to beat the Patriots,

463
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 2: that's who we lost to an EFC championship last year.

464
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 4: How do we do that?

465
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 3: Well?

466
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 2: We got to play man defense and experience the Steelers like, yeah, rarely.

467
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 4: They became more of a finesse team.

468
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that they learned from that lesson

469
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 3: too in the team building.

470
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 2: That twenty twenty team. You can't account for Marquise Pouncy

471
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: snapping the ball over Roethlisberger's had on the first play

472
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 2: from scrimmage. You're already in a whole seven nothing.

473
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,479
Speaker 3: Now, everyone in the plan will tell you they need

474
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 3: to win more playoffs, no doubt, There's no doubt about it.

475
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: But if you break down each situation, it's understandable. And

476
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 3: there has been lately when they've barely got into the playoffs.

477
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 4: Well, the last couple of times, you're playing Mahomes, you're

478
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 4: playing out and you're playing Yeah.

479
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 3: I mean it was accomplished getting there, but no one

480
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 3: expected those to be playoffs the air Super Bowl teams.

481
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

482
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 2: And I go back to that game against Kansas City

483
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 2: in Kansas City at Arrowhead. Your defense goes out there

484
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 2: and gets six stops in a row, Yeah, to open

485
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 2: the game and scores a touchdown.

486
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, you's up. You're up seven to nothing.

487
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: And Mahomes and Kansas City's offense have done nothing at

488
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: that point, and your offense didn't do anything to take

489
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: advantage of it.

490
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 3: I mean, again, we've been saying this a lot off

491
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 3: seasons in a row. If the offense can consistently move

492
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 3: the football and generate first downs. I'm not even talking

493
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 3: about touchdowns. Just do your your of time and possession,

494
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 3: complete passes, throws, some touchdown passes, they're gonna be in

495
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 3: a lot more of these games.

496
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree too, I would much more difficult

497
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 2: schedule this year.

498
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 3: It is.

499
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Speaker 2: But do I expect them to have a negative point

500
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 2: differential this year? I don't.

501
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, I mean the problem with just

502
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 3: this metric is I don't think the Steelers beat many

503
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 3: teams by twenty.

504
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 4: They don't, you know.

505
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they're not built to do with them now

506
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: as much like Cowers, teams were not built to blow

507
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: people out and therefore played a lot even though they

508
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: were the better They were the better team ninety percent

509
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: of the time when they took the field, like three

510
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: ninety four, Yeah, ninety four to ninety.

511
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 4: Five in particular.

512
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, like they were.

513
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: They were the best team in the AFC. But because

514
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: of the way that they were built to win, running

515
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 2: the football, playing defense, it allows your opponent to stay

516
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: in the game as well on.

517
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 3: The scoreboard, on the score not physically and rightly. You know,

518
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 3: when Jerome's getting five and a half yards of carry

519
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, Yeah, you might not rack points.

520
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 2: But if you put them, if you put the ball

521
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: on the ground, all of a sudden, it's it's you know,

522
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: it's a ball game. When it didn't need to be

523
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: because you in the past, rushes, HEAs, Yeah, you've been

524
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: the better team all day long.

525
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 3: About controlling games. Yeah, right, so I guess I mean,

526
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: will the Steelers have a positive or negative point differential

527
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: this year? A huge key to be don't get blown out? Yeah,

528
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 3: I mean, and could Kansas City blow their doors off

529
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: or could they lose big in a division game? They could?

530
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, there's there's good teams on the schedule,

531
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: but if you can avoid that, I think you'll be

532
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: a plus point differential team. But more important than that

533
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 3: is do you think Tomlin cares what the point differential is?

534
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 4: He wants not one bit.

535
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: He just cares about what the win loss record is.

536
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of those division games, this is remarkable. Yeah,

537
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: if you look at it over the last eight.

538
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: Years, yes, forty eight football games for every team in

539
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 3: the league.

540
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: The Steelers have the third most wins within the division.

541
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

542
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: In that period there they're thirty four and four team

543
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 2: in fourteen, actually thirty four to thirteen to one.

544
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, we're just talking about wins. Yeah, that would

545
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 3: actually be at thirty four and a half.

546
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kansas City has the most at forty one, which

547
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: is unbelievable, dominated that division, unbelievable.

548
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 3: And Reid is known for dominant division before we even

549
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 3: knew who Mahomes was. I mean, that's what one of

550
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: his specialties.

551
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 4: That's what he does.

552
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: And their division kind of reminds me of the Brady era.

553
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 3: Those other three teams aren't the Ravens. Yeah, but you

554
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 3: win forty one out of forty eight, and it's a

555
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: case with all these I'm sure there was a week

556
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: eighteen or two where Mahomes is sitting and that kind

557
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: of stuff too. But we have forty eight game sample

558
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: here that is a dominant performance.

559
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 4: Dallas has thirty five wins.

560
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this I think Washington the Giants helped that.

561
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 4: That helps, But give.

562
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: McCarthy and Darry Jones, all those guys a lot of credit.

563
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: That's consistent winning.

564
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: The Steelers are third with thirty four. Then there's a

565
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: drop of New Orleans and New England at thirty one,

566
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: Green Bay at thirty, Philadelphia at twenty nine.

567
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 3: As everyone knows, New England used to do metric and

568
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 3: they don't anymore.

569
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: You got Buffalo at twenty eight, the Rams and Titans

570
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: at twenty seven.

571
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 4: Titans kind of a surprise on there.

572
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: No, the Arthur Smith Rabel years, they were they were

573
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: beating up by the Jags in Houston. Yeah, Derrick Henry. Yeah.

574
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: Then you go all the way down to twenty six

575
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: before you see another AFC North team, that being Baltimore

576
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: at twenty.

577
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 3: Six division games, and there's no other the Cleveland or

578
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 3: the Ohio teams didn't or under twenty. Yeah, the only

579
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 3: he only showed twenty or more. I can't have many

580
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: if you figure out.

581
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: But if you look at it, over those last eight years,

582
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: this has been the most competitive division in the league.

583
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: Especially now.

584
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, especially over the last three years in particular.

585
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 3: Baltimore and Pittsburgh have been a staple.

586
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Steelers have dominated the division in terms

587
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: of winning division games, including last year. So the spin

588
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: I put understanding who who you are and who your

589
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: opponents it.

590
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: Is, and I think this isn't it's absolutely a Tomlin thing.

591
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: But I also think it's an organizational thing. I'm sure

592
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: this comes from ownership that where you're going to prioritize

593
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 3: scouting research, the way they play the game for these

594
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 3: three opponents, maybe more than the other thirty one teams

595
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 3: in the league. Certainly near the top of the league.

596
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: No one ever thinks about like pro scouts. But whoever

597
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 3: the Steelers pro scout is that's in charge of the

598
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 3: division because there's a race, you know whatever. I mean,

599
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: he is on top of every move they make, you know,

600
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: different scheme changes they're going to do. This left guard

601
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 3: has a bad ankle. You know, all the prep stuff

602
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 3: that coaches can't do that the pro scouts do year round.

603
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: And people want to again kind of joke about the

604
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 3: Steelers streak right now, and they'll joke about how did

605
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 3: this team ever get in the playoffs? Well, you dominate

606
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: your division, that's how you get in the playoffs. And

607
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: even if you don't win division, it comes down to

608
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: the I mean, those wins mean.

609
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 2: More and it's you know, doing it last year. To me,

610
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: even the Bengals without Joe Burrow still won nine games,

611
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: oh right, right right, like they were a very competitive

612
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: football team.

613
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some listeners going, well, Lamar didn't play,

614
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 3: Burrow didn't play. This is forty eight games, guys. Yeah,

615
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 3: I mean the Steelers didn't have been an ab for

616
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: every game either, right, you know what I mean? There

617
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: was some I'm sure there was a week seventeen or

618
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 3: eighteen game where the Steelers arresting people too.

619
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, the Steelers own Lamar Jackson and

620
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: they've just owned it. They don't fear him, they've just

621
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: owned it.

622
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 4: And it's inarguable.

623
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 3: It's inarguable. Yeah.

624
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 2: The one game that he won against the Steelers as

625
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: a starting quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens came when they

626
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: knocked Mason Rudolph oft of the game in twenty nineteen

627
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: and Duck Hodges had to finish it and that game

628
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: still went overtime.

629
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, I mean there is a skill to dominating

630
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: your division, and they do it as well as anyone,

631
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 3: not the Chiefs. Yeah, and that's going to keep you

632
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: relative every year.

633
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: Like to me, that's the most amazing stat in the

634
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: league right now is that the Steelers have won seven

635
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: of the last eight games against the Ravens and.

636
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: No one talks about it.

637
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: Nobody talks about it, just talks about like it's a

638
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: fair fight. Yeah.

639
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 4: The Ravens, they're they're one of the best.

640
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: You know. The people talking the talk about the Ravens

641
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: and put them in that same stratosphere as the Chiefs.

642
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and they were awesome. Last year, they were great.

643
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: They were great the year before that, they were great.

644
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: But their biggest rival or what's the whole Tomlin Patrick

645
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 3: queen thing, you're not a raven yet beat us? You know,

646
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: Like I tell the story a lot. But when I

647
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: was with the Browns, you know Phil Savage who'd come

648
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: over from the Ravens. You know, it was an inner division.

649
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: Bet is our new GM, and he's in charge of

650
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: the team, and we would start every war room meeting,

651
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: draft war room.

652
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 4: And he beat the Steelers with a prayer.

653
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then how he beat Steelers which might have

654
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: been a prayer to prayer now I think about it, right,

655
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: but that's exactly how he started. How guys, can we

656
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: beat the Steelers? Who to put it in? That was

657
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: Ben's rookie year when they would, you know, just said

658
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 3: one loss, and I looked like.

659
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: I had a similar conversation with Marvin Lewis when he

660
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 2: was still a defensive coordinator with the Ravens back in

661
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: the early two thousands, and.

662
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: I bet he did with the Bengals. Called him off on.

663
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: The phone and he's like, Hey, what are you doing, coach,

664
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: And well, I'm breaking down Steelers tape.

665
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 4: We got to figure out how to beat the Steelers.

666
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Speaker 3: I figure out to beat Steelers, right, And somebody said

667
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Speaker 3: for that, I mean maybe the Steelers start every meeting

668
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Speaker 3: with how do we beat the Bengals, Browns and Ravens. Well,

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Speaker 3: but they do it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they make it come to fruition.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with you know, figuring, doing that, taking

672
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Speaker 3: that approach. I bet the Steelers dress it more than

673
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Speaker 3: most good. It's working.

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Speaker 2: It works.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you went thirty four forty eight.

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Speaker 2: That's why you know when people talk about that, this

677
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: you know that's stretched down the you know, the end

678
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Speaker 2: of the end of the season stretch is going to

679
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Speaker 2: be brutal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be brutal.

681
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Speaker 2: But does anybody think the Steelers is going to go

682
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Speaker 2: oh and six in their division?

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Speaker 3: I don't think anything the Bengals, Ravens or Browns does

684
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: will take them by shocked.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially at that point of the year. Yeah, like

687
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Speaker 2: there's nothing new Cincinnati or Baltimore or Cleveland are gonna

688
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Speaker 2: throw at them.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not even talking about Oh I didn't see

690
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: this jet motion coming. It's just they know how the

691
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: organization think and breathe in the environment, in the walls

692
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: and the DNA from decades.

693
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Speaker 4: It's a chess It really is a chess match.

694
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Speaker 2: You're thinking, moves ahead, Okay, if we do this, they're

695
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: going to do that, and you know it's your opponent.

696
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: Is fascinating and to me, that's that's seven out of

697
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Speaker 2: eight games against the Ravens is one of the stands

698
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Speaker 2: out most ridiculous stats.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens are the only one in the division that

700
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Speaker 3: are also on the list. Right Taking the Steelers out

701
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Speaker 3: of it, you know, and they would be I'm sure

702
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: they're wrecked against the Ohio teams was really good. Well,

703
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: so we can figure.

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00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: It out, right over the last eight years, I can.

705
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Speaker 3: If we take those eight games out, they would have

706
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Speaker 3: played forty how many.

707
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 4: Wins they have twenty six, So they'd be.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five and fifteen against the Browns and Begels over

709
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 3: the last day years. That's pretty good.

710
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Speaker 2: That's pretty good, right, right, right, because the Browns and

711
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: Bengels have it stunk over that period.

712
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: Now, no, but neither one of those teams has twenty

713
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: wins out of forty eight right over an eight games,

714
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Speaker 3: eight season stretch. I think it's interesting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get to another break. I'm Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to finish up

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Speaker 2: the show right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: show on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and this

724
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Speaker 2: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt. Yesterday,

725
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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs defensive ENDBJ Thompson had a seizure and

726
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: winning the cardiac arrest at the field on at the

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Speaker 2: Chief's practice. Yeah, they canceled the remainder of their Ota sessions.

728
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Speaker 2: He is now awake today.

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Speaker 3: That wasn't the last one. They canceled everything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, we're not going to do this.

731
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Speaker 2: You know, I've been through these kind of situations, you

732
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: know before, you know, was in Cincinnati when the Ryan

733
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: Shay's ear incident happened.

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Speaker 3: I would actually bring that up if that was like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know, the you forget sometimes that players are people

736
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Speaker 2: and what they do is dangerous, and what they do

737
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: is dangerous even if.

738
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Speaker 3: It's oh it's a lot of stress on a human body.

739
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Thompson was a fifth round pick in twenty twenty

740
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: three out of Stephen F. Austin for the Chiefs and

741
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Speaker 2: hopefully everything is okay with him moving forward here.

742
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 4: But you know, he's just.

743
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Speaker 2: You know, I guess if something like that is going

744
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: to happen to somebody like better it happened for him

745
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Speaker 2: at the Chiefs facility and at the Mallea.

746
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Speaker 3: I mean, the hair to get there is remarkable for

747
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: every team, as it should be. And then the league

748
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: has so much money that would drive me insane if

749
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: even the slightest medical corner was cut, you know, And

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Speaker 3: to me, that would be one of the most egregious

751
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Speaker 3: thing any team in the league could do. And I

752
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: don't think that that's the case at all. I mean,

753
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Speaker 3: I think that's one of the most important things out there. Obviously,

754
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: it brings you, like the Hamlin situation, right, that's as

755
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 3: bad as about as bad as the one as you

756
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Speaker 3: could remember. But I again, I hate talking doctor stuff

757
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: because I don't know anything. But if that would have

758
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Speaker 3: happened anywhere else on the planet, would he have survived?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he would have if I would. It's

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Speaker 3: like a car accident situation. If he would have had

763
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Speaker 3: that kind of trauma and there weren't people fifty feet

764
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Speaker 3: away from him, would he still be with us? You know?

765
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Speaker 3: Or haven't forbid? What if that shazier situation would have

766
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Speaker 3: happened without the care that he would have had, would

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Speaker 3: he you know, what would have happened?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's just scary stuff.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: Have you the Colts have been holding Anthony Richardson out

773
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Speaker 2: of practice. I didn't hear that because he's dealing with

774
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Speaker 2: some right shoulder soreness.

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Speaker 3: Now.

776
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Speaker 4: I remember he had an ac joint injury last year.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember what his injury was that required season

778
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Speaker 2: ending surgery, and now he's dealing with some soreness in

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Speaker 2: that in that joint.

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Speaker 3: Golden rules. Don't overreact to June stuff. But I hate

781
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Speaker 3: hearing that. It's not good news, right, not good news,

782
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: big strong, young doesn't have a lot of wear and

783
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: tear in his body. It'd be different if it was

784
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: oh Ben's elbow at the end of his careers, like, well, yeah,

785
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: it's good, gotten the crap beat out of it for

786
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 3: years and at surgery where this kid's twenty two to

787
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Speaker 3: twenty three already can't stay on the field and his.

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Speaker 2: Game is predicated, you know, not only in having a

789
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Speaker 2: big arm, but also running with the ball.

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Speaker 3: I hate shoulder injuries for running back and yeah, hate hate, hate, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And are you going to you know, if you're the cults,

792
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Speaker 2: you're gonna say, hey, Anthony, we don't want your running

793
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Speaker 2: like you've.

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Speaker 3: You got the Jonathan Taylor guy that you're paying right,

795
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 3: you know. I mean he I think him and Fields

796
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 3: had the most consistent designed rushing production designed rush. It

797
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Speaker 3: wasn't Lamar, wasn't Alan.

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Speaker 2: If you take that away or if you hinder it,

799
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Speaker 2: that's scary stuff.

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Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, so who knows. It's a long way away,

801
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: but he needs every repie can get, much like a rookie.

802
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: And that's not the injury you want to hear.

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00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 4: No, not at all.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he hadn't thrown a lot of he hadn't

805
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: started a lot of college games. No, and he's now

806
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: started for NFL games. I mean, we're still talking about

807
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: a guy who is a pup.

808
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 3: A pup. He's not much different than Kayleb Williams or

809
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: you know, Daniels or McCarthy or any of those guys.

810
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: I think having a real offseason helps, but it's been

811
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Speaker 3: an injured one. Yeah, you know, so scary. I mean

812
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Speaker 3: I would be concerned if I were the Colts, and

813
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: I know Flacco played well for the Browns and at

814
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: this point he's going to be a good mentor. I

815
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: think I'd rather have a Tyrod Taylor back there.

816
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Speaker 2: I would get there as somebody who's more like Richardson

817
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 2: at the very least, And and.

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Speaker 3: Minshew wasn't either. I don't know if that team just

819
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: doesn't care about that philosophy. They have the best guy

820
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Speaker 3: you can get.

821
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Speaker 2: And as much as everybody talks about how well Flacco

822
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: played really well for the Browns last year.

823
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 4: Threw a lot of interceptions, he.

824
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: Put the ball in arms and was incredibly lucky. He

825
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: played better than Watson and dtr and he moved the

826
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: ball a lot, but it could have gone a lot

827
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: lot worse, and we saw what happened in the playoffs. Like, right, hey,

828
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: I'm rooting for Joe as much the next guy. I

829
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: would not be happy if if Flacco had to be

830
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Speaker 3: my starter for the Colts.

831
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Speaker 2: No, no, if it turned into a situation like last year,

832
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: last week, Minshu has to make twelve starts, Like, yeah.

833
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: It's gonna get worse and worse. Yeah, there might be

834
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 3: a game or two where Flacco throws for three twenty

835
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 3: and he's throwing bombs to Ady, Mitchell and Pierce and

836
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: those guys. Sure, but he's kind of been found out.

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Speaker 4: Have you seen any of this stuff about?

838
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Speaker 2: And I bring us up because Justin Tucker said he's

839
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: bulking up because of the new kickoff rolls. There are

840
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: people who are out there saying these new kickoff rolls

841
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: are going to force place kickers to have to make

842
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: more tackles.

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Speaker 3: Well, he had a long conversation about this yesterday and

844
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: I knew nothing of it. And here's what sparked. It

845
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: was one of the safeties Jordan Reed, Justin Reid for

846
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 3: the Chiefs went to Stanford.

847
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's talking about kicking off.

848
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 3: He's practicing kickoffs. Yeah, because I guess he kicked in

849
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Speaker 3: high school. And sure, it would be nice to have

850
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 3: a nice web shot that hangs in the air forever.

851
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: But really, all we need these kickers to do on

852
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: kickoffs is hit the green and it's and it's a

853
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 3: big green you know what I mean, all you do

854
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: is land. This thing is a big issu.

855
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, for for regular place kickers. It's you're not going

856
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: to be asking a position player to do it. Yes,

857
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: you're gonna have some flubs.

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00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: So my co host came up with this, and I

859
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: don't remember the exact numbers, but when teams have studied

860
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 3: the XFL, that's who uses these kickoff rules.

861
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 4: Or did use them, they don't, yeah anymore.

862
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: It's slightly different because they're not allowed to leave until

863
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: the ball is caught. You can't run down immediately. But

864
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: they came up with the number that kickers got involved

865
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Speaker 3: in about twenty to twenty five percent of the tackles,

866
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Speaker 3: which is exactly what you don't want, right, I mean,

867
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Speaker 3: I don't want them all getting.

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Speaker 4: Involved in this situation.

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Speaker 2: Though you're telling your kickers they're not allowed to cross

870
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Speaker 2: the fifty, right, I.

871
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: Mean, they're just last layer of the fact.

872
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: They are there just to just in case. So and

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Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting when Miles killer Brew explained

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00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 2: it that I described this as a it's it's almost

875
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: like a zone a wide.

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00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 4: Zone stretch play.

877
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you better off than taking of your of

878
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: your ten defenders that are up at the line of scrimmage,

879
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: taking six of them and saying, you guys are the

880
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: first line of defense that we're gonna put these next

881
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: four guys.

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00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, just don't put the second level. Yeah. I think

883
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: there's so much strategy to yeah.

884
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: Now and making like those are your four linebacker slash

885
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 2: safeties that are out there, they're running, go you run

886
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: and go get the ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I do think we talked about this

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Speaker 3: fair amount. You're gonna see bigger people out there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think you're gonna see her big size people out

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Speaker 3: there and tight end size people on returns. But I wonder,

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Speaker 3: you know, like an offensive play, are we gonna design

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Speaker 3: this thing with a pulling guard and you know you

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Speaker 3: got to you're gonna crack back on. This is gonna

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Speaker 3: be a zone run. This is gonna be a man run.

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Speaker 3: And I've really got a kick out of how Killerbrew

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Speaker 3: expressed that, because not only is he a court special teamer,

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Speaker 3: but he's a safety, you know, so he's seen these

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Speaker 3: zone runs from the third level of the defense, which

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Speaker 3: is kind of what these guys are doing. And I

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Speaker 3: brought that up on the podcast too, Like I think

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Speaker 3: that's a better way to look at defending returns than

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Speaker 3: I've heard from anybody. Yeah, I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if safeties are going to be kicking off and things

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 2: But and let's remember playing with stuff. As we mentioned

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Speaker 2: to start the show today, you got fourteen practices to

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Speaker 2: implement this stuff. Yeah, once the pads come on at

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Speaker 2: training camp.

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Speaker 3: So this was another discussion we had. Is Okay, First

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Speaker 3: of all, head coaches aren't going to love saying we

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Speaker 3: allocated X amount of minutes to special teams. Now we've

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Speaker 3: got to do X times three or whatever that so

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Speaker 3: you're short somewhere else. Now, do you think Danny Smith

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Speaker 3: and the other special teams coordinators are going to show

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Speaker 3: their stuff in the preseason because it's the only time

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Speaker 3: you can really really practice.

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Speaker 4: You have to rep some of it a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, those kickoffs are going to be very

919
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Speaker 3: valuable in the preseason. But I'm not going to show

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Speaker 3: you my best play either. Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I think what we're going to see in the preseason

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Speaker 2: this year and what we've seen in previous year is

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Speaker 2: what we've seen. Instead of teams taking a look at

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Speaker 2: your coverage units, we're just gonna kick the ball at

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Speaker 2: the end zone and retake.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not paying attention to that.

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Speaker 2: You better rep this stuff because everyone's going to attackt

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Speaker 2: it differently.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Again, I want to spring something on Atlanta that they've

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Speaker 3: never seen before in Week one, some kind of rifferent

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Speaker 3: all of it, all of it all right, I've never

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Speaker 3: seen any of this. And the one thing my co

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Speaker 3: has brought up, which I hope isn't the case, Well

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Speaker 3: maybe I hope it is the case because the Steelers

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Speaker 3: are the best one. But if there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: returns for touchdowns, we might have to scrap this whole idea. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And I think there's gonna be a fair amount.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's why they sided quarter O Patterson obviously,

941
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Speaker 3: But like I don't want quarter or Patterson to be

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Speaker 3: more valuable than Russell Wilson. The game doesn't get all

943
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Speaker 3: special teams because nobody can figure out how to get

944
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Speaker 3: these guys on the ground.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: But it's gonna be the Wild West for a while.

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Speaker 3: It really is, and preseason will be interesting. But I

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Speaker 3: bet people are gonna hold stuff back. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 3: think so.

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Speaker 2: As well, Matt, that's going to do for the show today?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good week in the books.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, three days next week, right, Yeah, we'll go on Monday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Friday next week and uh well I think the next

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Speaker 2: week after that, are you on vacation.

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Speaker 3: I think we'll get one in. I leave Tuesday to

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Speaker 3: Tuesday to Turks and Caicos here coming up. Nice family one.

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Speaker 3: We're looking forward to throw that my face. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways,

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Speaker 3: this week and then the following week at a minimum.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh, that's today a lot of fun for

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Speaker 2: my partner, Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on site

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Speaker 2: keeping us on the air.

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Speaker 4: I'm Dale, Lollie.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you listening to this edition of the Drive

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio.