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Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself

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Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. The High Energy Podcast

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Speaker 3: for winners and their families. I'm Bridger Wineger. I'm so

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Speaker 3: is wonderful. It's none other than Sujin Pak Sujin. Welcome to.

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Speaker 3: I said, no gifts.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna adjust my blanket over my lap. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to get my little tishy pad all heat it up.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got to have a heat it up

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Speaker 3: You know, just two grandma's enjoying each other's company. How

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Speaker 3: are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I mean, it's the end of the year,

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Speaker 2: fast and furious. It's just a mud slide, face plant

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Speaker 3: That's been the I mean, from January first of twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty one. That's been the feeling for me.

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Speaker 2: I have to say, I feel like I had some

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Speaker 3: What's causing the general not sleeping?

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Speaker 2: Gosh, that's really good question. You know I'm a notorious

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not. Yeah, I mean I feel like you and

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Speaker 3: I are just going to continue to discover things about

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Speaker 3: you know, when I was on your podcast at the

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Speaker 3: the clearance section, and I just felt so close to

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Speaker 2: Oh me too, me too, so I and I'm I

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Speaker 2: mean I could talk. This whole thing is going to

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Speaker 2: damn it, I have to redo the lunches. So what

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Speaker 2: I'm getting at is is it's not about world hunger

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Speaker 3: In the morning, I do this exact same thing, and

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Speaker 2: Is it the same every night? I feel like people

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Speaker 2: They don't he doesn't move. It's it's a corpse like

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Speaker 2: No, the man, I tell you he and has been

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Speaker 3: This is this is the math that my boyfriend told me,

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Speaker 2: I mean I see things. And so I've tried the counting,

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Speaker 3: I've tried the relaxing. Yeah, I'm boring and annoying everyone

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Speaker 3: Headspace once and the app tells you don't lie down

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Speaker 2: I just I'm like, I just don't think someone talking

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Speaker 2: It's not relaxing to me when I'm awake. Why would

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Speaker 3: That says, let's see it says welcome a board, Welcome

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Speaker 2: And that's the theme for that bag is a theme

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Speaker 3: This is where you kind of the I think there

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Speaker 2: That's weird, correct, that's those are the best kinds of gifts.

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Speaker 3: Well, should I open it here on the podcast?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely you should to dive in and you know what,

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Speaker 2: We'll get the tissue going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just sidle into that. But that soothing noise, a

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Speaker 2: It's right, turn up that tissue warmer.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's been thrown on the ground, reaching into aforementioned

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Speaker 2: I felt could take me from night to day. Meaning

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00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: I didn't want to put on shoes, you know, and

437
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: I don't wear shoes in the house, and so I

438
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: needed a sock that did that. This is this is it.

439
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 2: I put on a parrot night that takes me through

440
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: the morning, and then I put on a fresh, clean

441
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: pair before I go to bed, and they take me

442
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 2: off and I never take them off.

443
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: I like that. You go to bed just ready to

444
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 3: go skiing. Yeah, you could just easily hit the slopes

445
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 3: at any moment in the middle of the night. Now,

446
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 3: So you so this sock is it's not during the day.

447
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: I assume you're wearing a more stylish sock.

448
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: No, I'm actually wearing I'm wearing the dickies now from.

449
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 3: Last you're wearing even with shoes, you're wearing these. Oh yes, interesting,

450
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: Oh please, because you're such a as far as I

451
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 3: can tell, a very stylish person.

452
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, fine, I'm wearing these dicky socks in shoved.

453
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 3: In so I can go twenty four hours a day.

454
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: Then they go twenty four hours I'm and I obviously

455
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: I change them because I can't go to sleep in

456
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: this dirty socks, right, just like you can't go to

457
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: sleep in your old underwear that you've been wearing all day.

458
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 2: You know, you you got to get a clean, clean

459
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: layer in, you know, anything that's touching your skin, clean, clean,

460
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: clean when you get into bed, and then you take

461
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: that right into the morning and you go off, You

462
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: go off and you conquer the day.

463
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 3: Now. Have you been dressing like this for bed since

464
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: you were a kid or is this like an adult thing? No?

465
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: I think I've been dressing like this. I mean I

466
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: can't remember as a kid very clearly, but I know

467
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: I have been dressing like this for sleep since I

468
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: can remember. So I don't know since I was eight

469
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, definitely. I mean I have never like

470
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: cool Op, who's my co host on attic cart my podcast.

471
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: She she once showed me something she slept it. It

472
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: was like a like a cotton nightie that was like

473
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: above her knee, and I had never seen anything more ridiculous.

474
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: In I was like, that is absurd, It's absurd. There

475
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: are so many areas of vulnerability air insect. I mean,

476
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: what do not make me tell you about the horror

477
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: story of my friend who in Mexico she sleeps naked,

478
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: got bit by some sort of a bug in her

479
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: crotch area.

480
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: Oh no, woke up with swollen crotch.

481
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: Just swollen crotch, I mean, oh yeah, And anyway, we

482
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: all know someone who has been to another country, you

483
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: know whatever it is. And yes I do. I sleep

484
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: with ear plugs in not only to drown the sound

485
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: but the fear of an insect crawling in my ear

486
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: and laying eggs. Yes, yes, is that irrational? Fine?

487
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: Fine, Okay, you dressed like an assassin going to bed,

488
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: correct sir, I was going to wake up and grab

489
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: their sniper rifle and headed out into the world.

490
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Katy Burglar, I know it's true, and it's nothing,

491
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: nothing sexy time happening. Obviously there was.

492
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: I mean, going back to our similarities, there was a

493
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: period between third and fifth grade that I was so

494
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: deadly afraid that either a snake, a spider, or a

495
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: rat was going to bite me while I was asleep.

496
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: That's how I was dressing. Every night. I covered every

497
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: part of my body up until my chin.

498
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: And tuck the sheets of course, of course.

499
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: And every piece of clothing was tucked into the other

500
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: piece of clothing. I had socks over my hands, socks

501
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: over my feet.

502
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: Okay, there's stuff in there for all of your appendages.

503
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: I mean, the head continues to be vulnerable. I don't

504
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: know what the thought there was. Oh wow, just wake

505
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: up and rats have chewed my face off.

506
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: That's true or perfect? Like myself, I sleep with many

507
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: pillows also on my head. I mean, if you looked

508
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: over at my sleeping situation, yes you would be. You

509
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: would be concerned not only for my physical health but

510
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: my mental health, because I yes, I bury myself underneath

511
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: pillows with the full ski gear on underneath. And and

512
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: you wonder where I can't sleep. No, that's not that's

513
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: there's no way, if there's a I've woken up, if

514
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: my I'm such a light sleeper, if my my sleeping

515
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: pant has come out of my sock and there's a

516
00:30:54,280 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: sliver of skin exposed. Yeah, unfortunately I I have woken up.

517
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: And so what about like in the middle of the summer,

518
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: do you just keep your house really cold?

519
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: No, I just am one of those people that is

520
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: never warm enough. Yeah, it's a cold, cold, stone hard.

521
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: I'm there's there. I'm sure you could draw a lot

522
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: of metaphors for how cold I run and how human

523
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: touch horrifies me, and I recoil at the thought. Listen,

524
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: they all maybe related. I'm open to that.

525
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: You know who knows? They probably are.

526
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And guess what, I don't care.

527
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: I now we're in the middle of winter in La

528
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: So it's a very confusing time temperature wise, because during

529
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: the day it kind of feels like summer. That's when

530
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: the temperature drops at night. So I basically layer to

531
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 3: go to bed and then wake up undressed, having no

532
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: recollection of when the clothes came off my body, and

533
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: sometimes like part of them will still be on me.

534
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: There'll be different parts of the room, or I'll wake

535
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: up with like a full robe on over the things.

536
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: God knows what's happening in my brain in the middle

537
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: of the night.

538
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: It's just nobody knows.

539
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you dream much?

540
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: Do you dreams?

541
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: I do? I do remember dreams. I dream much, and

542
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: I've always been a very very vivid, active dreamer. Oh God,

543
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: this is dark Bridger.

544
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: I don't.

545
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: I feel like I should just lie and make myself

546
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: sound less disturbed, but I'm not going to. But also,

547
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: like not ever since I was a kid, I've just

548
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: very graphic, violent, terrible, horrible dreams.

549
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 3: Now is the graphic violence happening to you or are

550
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: you perpetuating the violence both? Wow, Sometimes it's because you're

551
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: dressed like a killer. You go to you dress for

552
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: the dreams you want to have. That's what I'm saying.

553
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: Yes, and I am a ninja ready ready to yes,

554
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: to fight and die by the sword every night I

555
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: go into battle.

556
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, are the violent dreams scary or is it

557
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: kind of just commonplace at this point?

558
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, they are scary as I'm having them,

559
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: but I've gotten much better at shaking them off in

560
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: the morning. Okay, Yeah, they used to sort of you know,

561
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: like you have those mem You're like, oh, that's I'm

562
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: not sure. Oh what does that say about you? And

563
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: then you're talking about therapy and trying to analyze why

564
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: you must have these dreams every night and you feel that,

565
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: you know, the knife just like piercing flesh on you know,

566
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: like why does it have to be so graphic? But

567
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: now I'm just like, Okay, that's just my dream world. Yeah,

568
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: just my dream world, and I don't need to think

569
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: about it.

570
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: Now. Do you like consume a lot of violent media

571
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: or anything like that? That's all?

572
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? I can't even look at a scary poster,

573
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: like when I'm driving and there's like that movie it

574
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: right for a while that pot and I would be

575
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: like no, no, bus like a bus stop. I would

576
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 2: be like no, no, no. Even in my periphery, I can't.

577
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: I can't even look at a poster, much less a

578
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: trailer to a scary movie. So I think there's just

579
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: enough happening in here my own fears. Now, what do

580
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: you dream about or do you not remember your dreams?

581
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: I have a really hot hard time recalling dreams. I

582
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 2: lately my dreams have been so chaotic and all over

583
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: the map like very high stakes and then very low stakes,

584
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: and then low stakes things that are extremely high stakes.

585
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: But the weird thing I've realized recently is my boyfriend.

586
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 3: Is never in my dreams. And I'm wondering if that's

587
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: because I just spend so much time with him that

588
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: my brain is like, that's the one thing we don't

589
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: need to deal with. But he's like he's almost entirely

590
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: absent from my dreamscape.

591
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say it's pretty rare that my part

592
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: or makes an appearance. I wonder, now, are you the

593
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: type of person when you're dreaming it's like absurd, you know,

594
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 2: whereas like or are you the type of person where

595
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: like this feels like very detailed and very much like

596
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: I'm awake.

597
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: It's usually more absurd. I mean, obviously they feel real

598
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 3: in the moment, but they're never you know, like people

599
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 3: be like you can lucid dream by just realizing you're

600
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: in an absurd situation. It's never to that point, right,

601
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 3: So it's it's a weird mix of you know, it's

602
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: just dreams. It's Uh, I need to start a dream journal,

603
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: as I is what I need to do for what purpose?

604
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 3: For the next time you're on the podcast, and I'll say, listen,

605
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: I've got a few to tell you about. People love

606
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: to hear about dreams.

607
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: And then you're just like, what am I doing this for?

608
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 3: People love to hear long winded stories with no connection

609
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: to reality and go nowhere?

610
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: What are you going back? And being like, oh, it's

611
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: a twenty dean.

612
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: I do remember when I was a kid, I would

613
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: have recurring dreams when I would have the flu that

614
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 3: had to do with there was a child a children's

615
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: book called Sylvester and the Magic Pebble, which is about

616
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: like a donkey that turns into a rock, And I

617
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: would have that dream all the time. And I would

618
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: also have a dream which was very scary about a

619
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: little girl sitting on top of a box in a

620
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: warehouse wearing like an old fashioned swimsuit, you know, those

621
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: like twenties full body swimsuits calling my name, which is hunting.

622
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 3: I mean, what a strange thing to have a dream

623
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: about as a child, but reoccurring, oh, every time I

624
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: had the flu. Those were the two types of dreams.

625
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: Oh that's crazy.

626
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, life stuff right, And I feel like the violence

627
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 3: is you must have been some sort of Viking warrior.

628
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: I'm not ruling that out. I'm not ruling that out.

629
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: I don't.

630
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: I think the dream. I think that the fact that

631
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: we dream it it is I mean, try to explain.

632
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: That it is one of the true and I mean

633
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 3: it's just a very mysterious thing to this day. It's

634
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 3: such a magic thing that has still not that much

635
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: of an explanation.

636
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: No, and and there's no and we do everyone does it.

637
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: I mean, and it it is a really when you

638
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: start to think about it again, three am thoughts.

639
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: I do love a scary dream. Waking up from a

640
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: scary dream is always such a lovely relief. Yes, right, like,

641
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: oh that was kind of exciting and it didn't actually

642
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 3: have to happen.

643
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I can make an omelet right.

644
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: Well, I've got should I try one of these socks on? Now,

645
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 3: I've never put on a sock during a podcast, and there's.

646
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: Ye try it on. It's it's it's just the right

647
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: amount of hug. God, I hate a loose.

648
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: Sock to feel like a loose sock falling down over

649
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 3: your calf. I don't ruin your day.

650
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: It ruined, yes, and so it's a nice snug fit,

651
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: but it's not like it's a compression sock.

652
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: But compression sock.

653
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 2: You haven't no, well, I thought we were we agreed,

654
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: we were old ladies. That's weird because I love.

655
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 3: A compression that's grade.

656
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this one. And you know, I got you black.

657
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: You know I didn't get well, actually don't come in

658
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: funky colors. But sometimes that, you know, I get, I'll

659
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: get a little wild and get the multi colored like heel,

660
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: you know, and it'll be a purple heel on a

661
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: black sock.

662
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: Black sock is good for all occasions.

663
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm a big believer in black line.

664
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: I've got the sock on now.

665
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: It fits perfectly, thank you.

666
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: Let you just take a peek at my foot in

667
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: the sock. Yeah, that feels great, and I can you

668
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: know this could be a night or day sock.

669
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: I love it exactly.

670
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: It's an around the house sock.

671
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: Listen. I've gotten my husband into these socks. I you know,

672
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: well I buy them.

673
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens to wear them. They're a unisex sock.

674
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: They're in the laundry.

675
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 2: Yeah no, but we it's a good sock. I want

676
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: to know. Text me, let's give the socks about three weeks,

677
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: you know, live in them a little, you know, try them.

678
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna make it. I'm currently in trial contacts,

679
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 3: and now I'm in trial socks.

680
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 2: Yes, everything is just a bit of a trial. It's

681
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: the end of the year, Richard. You don't know what

682
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two.

683
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean these socks could lead me down a

684
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: whole new path that's right towards welcome a board.

685
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: Ocean and welcome a board ocean or overboard ocean. You know,

686
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: we're not sure yet, So in a few weeks you

687
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: will let me know. Hey, these are really fantastic socks. Thanks.

688
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: You're going to get an all caps text that just

689
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: says welcome a board ocean. Be prepared. It's okay, great,

690
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: fifty exclamation points. I will find the sock emoji. Yeah boy,

691
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 3: it'll probably set your phone on fire. Yeah, well, this

692
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: is great. I'm now in two different socks. I think

693
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: we should play a game.

694
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

695
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: Do you want to play a game called Gift Master

696
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: or a game called gift or a curse?

697
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: Oh, gift or a curse?

698
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 3: Okay, beautiful. I need a number between one and ten

699
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 3: nine okay, Oh, I love a high number. I have

700
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: to do some light calculating. I have to get the

701
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 3: game pieces we're gonna be working with. Promote something, Recommend something.

702
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 3: You've got the mic for a minute, do whatever you want.

703
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I've given you the secrets of my socks,

704
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: So go ahead, guys, I get that well. Bridger mentioned

705
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: that I have a podcast with a lovely gal named

706
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: Koolop and it's called Ad Decarte, and this is what

707
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: we do. Every week. We talk about the things that

708
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: we've bought that have just delighted us and brought us joy.

709
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: Some of them are game changers. Oh, a game changer,

710
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: you ask, sure? Like for instance, when I found a

711
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: toilet cleaner that then went into a UV tray so

712
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 2: that all the bacteria was killed upon every time I

713
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: I washed, I clean my toilet, and I thought, well,

714
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: that's a game changer. My life will never be the same.

715
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: That company has now shuddered and you can no longer

716
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: find them. I should have bought so many of them.

717
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 3: You should have loaded up.

718
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: I keep talking about this. This could be the only

719
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: merch that we ever saw. Is this toilet brush that

720
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: went into a UV holder? I mean, that is genius.

721
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: That's a very good idea.

722
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: I have been throwing out toilet brushes disgustingthy, it's filthy,

723
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 2: or like fine, I'll wash it and then I'll take

724
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: it out back and let it sit in the sun.

725
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: And then I forget about it, and and you know,

726
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: the next day, someone comes over and it's like, oh,

727
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: you're one of those people. I had so many toilet brushes.

728
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 3: Wait, so this company is shut down.

729
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: You can't get them anymore.

730
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 3: Oh jeez, So I think you've got to revive it.

731
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 2: I know, well I have thought about it. But anyway,

732
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: those are just some of the things that we talk

733
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: about in our podcast.

734
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: It's an excellent podcast, a very fun time, and I

735
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: mean just this little peek into it. You've heard about

736
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: this toilet brush listener, so go listen to it. Okay,

737
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: it's time to play Gift or a Curse. This is

738
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 3: how we play. Okay, I'm going to name three things.

739
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: You're going to tell me if they're a gift or

740
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 3: a curse and why there are correct answers. You will

741
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 3: lose this game if you mess up, so just be

742
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 3: extremely careful.

743
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: But if I if I win this game.

744
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: If you win this game, you enter a very rare territory.

745
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: I think I think maybe three people out of eighty

746
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: odds o people have won this game, so you know,

747
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: the stakes have never been higher never. All right, the

748
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: first one this is a listener suggest gift, and the

749
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 3: listener is named Amy. Gift or a curse. Those plastic

750
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 3: coded paper clips, you know, the little ones that are

751
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: kind of they're in all colors, they're a.

752
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: Little yeah, I mean, of course they're a gift. What

753
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 2: what's the curse that's attached to it? I mean, why

754
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't you look doubtful? Forger? Do you not agree?

755
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 3: I just want to hear your reasoning as to why

756
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: you why they're a gift as opposed to the strictly metal.

757
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 2: Oh, strictly metal. I mean, that's just there's no technology there.

758
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 2: You know, we haven't improved, we haven't involved. You know,

759
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: we're we're past that point. We also are not selling

760
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: sending each other, you know, telegraphs. You know. Now now

761
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: we've got bullet journals, We've got bullet coffee. You know,

762
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: we were putting gee, we're putting butter. We're putting butter

763
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: in our coffee. You know, these days, this is what

764
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: where we're at. And each of those. You know, you

765
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: use the blue ones for your taxes, and you use

766
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 2: the red ones for thank you notes, and you use

767
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: the yellow ones for reminders. It's just it's technology, it's

768
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: human evolution.

769
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: I love to hear it. You've got the first one, right,

770
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 3: I love those little things.

771
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: That's as this game.

772
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 3: Oh you're off to a very good start. I mean,

773
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: don't count your chickens, but look, you're off to a

774
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 3: very good start. I love the little plastic paper clips.

775
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: Occasionally I'll probably chew on one, you know, I'll bite it.

776
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: The metal ones, no, thank you, they're dangerous. It's not

777
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 3: the forties anymore.

778
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: No.

779
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: I love the little plastic They're still metal, so they

780
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 3: have the hard, crunchy center. I'm basically talking like, I

781
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 3: eat these, listener, don't eat the plastic coded paper clip.

782
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 3: Just enjoy them for what they are. They're color coded

783
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 3: so you can, you know, as Susan was just saying,

784
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: use them to organize. I love them, absolutely, absolutely excellent.

785
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 3: You've knocked this one out of the park.

786
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: It is an easy one. I see, I see you

787
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: starting me off. Real Soft.

788
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: Real Soft just lure you into kind of this this

789
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: sense that you're going to do well and then knock

790
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: you down. We'll see, Okay. The second one is from

791
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 3: our producer on aalise on a Lisea's suggested gift or

792
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: a curse when a bride slash groom wears converse during

793
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: their ceremony gift or a curse.

794
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, no, no, no no, no, this one,

795
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: this one. I'm putting myself out here for this one

796
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: because I did. I did wear pink converse for my reception. Okay, ok,

797
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: but not not for the ceremony. Absolutely a curse. You

798
00:45:53,239 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 2: can't wear sneakers to pledge your undying love, devotion, and obedience.

799
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 3: Let's get that be very important in relationship cap it alone.

800
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: To a partner in converse, that's like, that's like making

801
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: a promise and then crossing your fingers behind your back.

802
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 2: You're not nobody. Everybody knows you're not serious. I mean,

803
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: I wouldn't take that person seriously.

804
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 3: Wow, two out of two. Of course that's a curse.

805
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 3: What are you fourteen? This isn't the Blink one eighty

806
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: two concert? Take it sure where I'm doing the reception?

807
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 3: When you have to walk all over the lawn or

808
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 3: whatever greeting people, you barely want to talk to Look,

809
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 3: I'm not getting married anytime soon or ever, but during

810
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 3: a ceremony, can we please just be adults for ten minutes?

811
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 3: That's right. You don't need you dancing in We don't

812
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: need you in your skatewear. Just put on the clothes

813
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: and get married like two serious people.

814
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: That's right. I agree, that's right to adults. Please adults only. Otherwise,

815
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: do whatever you're going to do at the skatepark.

816
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 4: You don't warp tour whatever you're doing.

817
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 3: But not during the marriage ceremony, especially when I drove

818
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 3: across town in my dress shoes to watch you get married.

819
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 2: Fit. Oh my, that is a very good point. How rude,

820
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: extremely rude, that's not wow. Yeah no, yeah, definitely curse.

821
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: Just clear as day. Okay, so you have two out

822
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: of two. Now I'm starting to worry. Uh, we'll just

823
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: see what happens here. Finally, we have a listeners suggestion,

824
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 3: gift or a curse. This is from Kathleen. Kathleen has

825
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 3: suggested gift or a curse corn on the cob holders

826
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: shaped like little corn cobs.

827
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: I mean, your listeners are as deranged as you are.

828
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful circle of trust that you've here, and

829
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 2: that's that's how you.

830
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: Know, you know, you gotta find your community.

831
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: That's right, this is your these are your people's corn

832
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 2: on the again, this goes oh no, no, okay. It's similar

833
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: to my first answer, which was, how can this be

834
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: a curse? Do you want to hold a boiling hot

835
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: corn on the cob with your fingers? Or or what else?

836
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 2: What you're gonna put on oven? Myths like how else?

837
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: What do you jab a fork? And the what? How

838
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: else are you gonna eat the corn on the cob?

839
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: That's ho You're gonna have a cold corn on the

840
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: cop We'll just have it in the can. Then nobody's

841
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: gonna have a cold corn like No, it's pulling out

842
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 2: a leftover cold corn on the cob from the Fourth

843
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: of July barbecue and just gnawing on that thing the

844
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: next day. Right, you're getting it hot fresh, and it's

845
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: a classic. It's Americana. Okay. You may not agree with

846
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: what this country is doing to itself at this moment,

847
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: but let's pretend that there is this place that we

848
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: all once agreed was perfectly reasonable, and there they used

849
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: these things and it was perfectly reasonable.

850
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 3: The imagination's a powerful thing. Oh wow, Look, I would

851
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 3: love nothing more than to send you away with a

852
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: two out of three, but I can't. You did it

853
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 3: three out of three. Of course, I didn't even know

854
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,479
Speaker 3: that there's an Is there an alternative to miniature coren?

855
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 3: What other things are you sticking in there? They're very cute.

856
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 3: I don't even like to eat corn, and those are

857
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 3: the one thing that tempts me. I think that every

858
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: food should look like the food. A fork should look

859
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 3: like a chicken leg, blight should look like a sandwich.

860
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: I would be happy. Let's make novelty everything, high function,

861
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 3: high form.

862
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: Listen. I one of my my favorite things when I

863
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: go to a friend's house, who really knows how to

864
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: be a host is.

865
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 6: I'm marvel at at that his butter plate is shaped

866
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 6: like butter. His asparagus is served on a on a

867
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 6: ceramic plate shaped like asparagus. This, this person exists, exists.

868
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: He's the mad hatter. You have so many platters for everything.

869
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: He's so proud of his platters. I love. It's just

870
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 2: it's it's fun, it's whimsical. It's a conversation starter.

871
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, metal paper clips. I mean, there's

872
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: you've got to have something to hold it with. I

873
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: don't even know that it's a question that this thing

874
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 3: could be a problem.

875
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: No, not at all.

876
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: It's it's actually one of probably ten perfect products that

877
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 3: have ever been designed by human being.

878
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: I would say five.

879
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: Look, I'm on board with you. You just got three

880
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: out of three. Why not. I'm jumping on ship with you.

881
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 3: There have been five perfect things made by human beings

882
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 3: at least, and I would say probably number three right

883
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 3: there in the middle, miniature corn that you stick in

884
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 3: a corner on the cob. It's a gorgeous product.

885
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: Were the same person, I agree, completely agree.

886
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: Wow, well congratulations. You know I'm furious you hate to

887
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 3: see somebody just blow away the game that easily. But yeah,

888
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 3: I also feel very connected to you. Now yeah, okay,

889
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: we're going to answer a listener question. This is called

890
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 3: I said no emails people write into I said no

891
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 3: gifts at gmail dot com. People have issues, people have problems,

892
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 3: people have concerns, questions. They turn to me, They turn

893
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 3: to the guests, They get perfect answers. They their life

894
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 3: is improved. Here is the question, dear Bridger an esteemed guests.

895
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 3: So this person kind of quickly predicted that you were.

896
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 3: They obviously knew you were going to win the game,

897
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 3: So there there goes. Yeah, my close friend Leo is

898
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 3: moving to New York and I have no idea what

899
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: to get him as a goodbye present. I was going

900
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 3: to make him a scrapbook of our fun times together,

901
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 3: but I recently got into an accident and broke my

902
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 3: left shoulder and left foot, rendering me unable to put

903
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: together a thoughtful gift. Leo is a huge fan of

904
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 3: your podcast, as am I. Okay, so we know Leo's

905
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,959
Speaker 3: a good egg. We know this person's a good egg,

906
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 3: and I'm hoping that you can offer some advice as

907
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 3: what to buy him. Leo isn't the theater hot guys

908
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: working out and listening to books being read out loud.

909
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 3: I don't have a ton of money because my hospital

910
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 3: bills are very large, and I don't know anything about

911
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 3: New York. So any help on what it has to

912
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 3: offer that pertains to the above would be so appreciated.

913
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 3: Please help Emily. First of all, Okay, Emily, I'm hearing

914
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 3: a lot of excuses. Scrapbook. You're saying scrapbook is something

915
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 3: you can do from any bed hospital, bed bed at home.

916
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 3: I do feel like immediately you were looking for an

917
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 3: excuse not to do this scrap book. Do you feel

918
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 3: like that may be true, Susan.

919
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: I think so. I mean a scrap book, let's just

920
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: what's a lot of work. You know, it's a huge

921
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: crack and we live in a digital world. Let's let's

922
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 2: if you wanted to send the man off with some

923
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 2: mementos of your friendship. You go into I don't know

924
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: what it's like Apple photo Album and you click and

925
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: drag and guess what they bind it. They make it

926
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: look like a real books and it's gorgeous. You don't

927
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: have to glue anything, you don't have to dodge, podge

928
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: hodge on it. You literally click and drag. If that

929
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: is the vibe that you wanted to do, you know

930
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: it to gift. That's a very easy one.

931
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 3: Look your shoulder and leg are let's say shoulder and

932
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: left foot are broken.

933
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be the dominant, but still a clicking

934
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: and a dragging. You can do that with your mouth. Really,

935
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 2: it's a very simple thing.

936
00:53:59,040 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 3: Easy.

937
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

938
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the real story here is that

939
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: Emily knew that Leo would be listening to this podcast

940
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 3: wanted him to think that she was thoughtful enough to

941
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 3: make a scrap book when she that was never in

942
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 3: the cards, and if it was, maybe she got in

943
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: over her head with the scrapbook promise, got herself into

944
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 3: an accident to avoid doing it.

945
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: And just in case you thought that she was going

946
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 2: to give you a generous gift, she's also not flush

947
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 2: with some cash, so she's in hospital bills. Let's lower

948
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: these expectations. You're going to get an apple for the

949
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: pain ride to New York as a snack because they

950
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: don't give food out anymore on these planes.

951
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 3: That's not a bad idea. Pack a little bag of

952
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 3: treats for him to eat on the way there. Because

953
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 3: we've got theater. Okay, that's look. Everyone knows that nobody

954
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 3: goes to the theater in New York, so that's off

955
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 3: the table for Leo. There's no chance he's got They

956
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 3: have no world class theater in New York, so forget that.

957
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 3: Don't get him tickets to anything. He's into hot guys.

958
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 3: New York is famously ago city, and listening to books

959
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 3: being read out loud, now that's something maybe you look

960
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 3: up like something happening at a local library and give

961
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 3: him a tip that feels right. It's free, the New

962
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 3: York Public Library great system. The librarians are probably there

963
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 3: reading at some point. Let it map out, you know,

964
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 3: a little day for him to go to the library

965
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 3: and hear somebody read a book.

966
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bridger, if you're not using your annual subscription

967
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: to that that app, you can give it to her

968
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: and she can gift it.

969
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 3: I'll just share the password with you. He'll get the

970
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 3: last two months or whatever. Good enough, and look, Leo.

971
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: Hopefully Leo's listening right now. Hopefully this is gift enough.

972
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 3: It's now, you know, at least as long as the

973
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 3: grid is alive and we have electricity, this podcast will

974
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 3: be there for him to hear. Emily loves you, Leo,

975
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: at least enough to write into the podcast. Maybe not

976
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 3: enough to do a scrapbook or overcome her injury, but

977
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 3: she at some point cared for you, and hopefully you

978
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: too will be able to stay in touch. Maybe you can,

979
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 3: you know, make a little bed on your couch for

980
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 3: her when she comes to New York. Hopefully this friendship

981
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 3: will last for another couple of years. Nothing lasts forever.

982
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 3: Leo's probably going to become really sophisticated, and then suddenly

983
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 3: Emily feels like a yokel and things change. But we

984
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 3: wish you both the best of luck. Do you have

985
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 3: any other anything else to tell them?

986
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: I do wish you both a lot of luck. But

987
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: Leo's to embark on an adventure. You lived in New

988
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: York for a long time, that's right, And I left

989
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 2: all of my California friends in the dust, all those yokels,

990
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: And when they would show up with giant suitcases and

991
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 2: next round the pillows, I would slam my door in their.

992
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: Head back to the bus depot. Loser. Well, Emily got

993
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 3: exactly the advice she needed. Leo got. I mean the

994
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 3: gift surprise or there's no surprise left for Leo. But whatever,

995
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: you too, enjoy your lives. Don't write in again, So Jean,

996
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 3: I've had a fantastic time outside of you winning the

997
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 3: game against my wishes. I now have one of your

998
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 3: socks on. Eventually i'll have two on it. It is

999
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 3: I'll be honest. It's creating a heat imbalance in my

1000
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 3: body right now.

1001
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: That isn't an uncomfortable heat.

1002
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: I can't say it's frying my brain you're watching me

1003
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 3: kind of unravel. But I do also have a cruchede

1004
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 3: blanket over my knees, a hoodie, a flannel and a

1005
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 3: T shirt on, so I probably should go off into

1006
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 3: the world and take off a layer.

1007
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a layer. But okay, take it easy.

1008
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to try to. It's the last thing I

1009
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 3: will ever do is take it easy.

1010
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: Right, We're about to go to sleep, so it's about it.

1011
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: The toughest part of our day has only just begun.

1012
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: I don't want and I'm drinking caffeine. Oh my life,

1013
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: Oh my life. It's okay, it's okay. When you put

1014
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: the socks on at night tonight, just imagine that I'm

1015
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm there holding your.

1016
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 3: Assassin gear.

1017
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: That's right, just holding on to each pale foot with

1018
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: gentle pulses of heat.

1019
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 3: The dirty Oh, thank you so much. This was wonderful.

1020
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me and listener. Look, I hope

1021
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: you have a nice sleep tonight. You might be listening

1022
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 3: to this at seven thirty in the morning and now

1023
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: suddenly you're all you're looking forward to is going to bed,

1024
00:58:54,480 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 3: and your day becomes an unlivable hell. That's It's really

1025
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 3: not my issue. You're the one that chose to listen

1026
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 3: to this podcast, and I just put it out there

1027
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 3: for you to eat up. So you're welcome, have a

1028
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 3: wonderful day, goodbye. I said, No Gifts is an exactly

1029
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 3: right production. It's produced and engineered by our dear friend

1030
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 3: Anna Lisa Nelson, and the theme song is by miracle

1031
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram

1032
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 3: at I said No Gifts, that's where you're going to

1033
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 3: see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. You

1034
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 3: have to see the gifts. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts,

1035
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 3: Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave

1036
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 3: a review while you're there. It's really the least you

1037
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 3: could do, considering everything I do for you.

1038
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 2: Liever, did you hear.

1039
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: Fun a man? Myself? Perfectly clear?

1040
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,439
Speaker 3: But you're I guess to my home?

1041
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guess,

1042
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: your own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff,

1043
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me?